Dec. 6, 2024

Strange Bigfoot in Eastern Tennessee with Matt Seeber

Join us as we sit down with Matt Sieber, a seasoned Bigfoot researcher and author from Tennessee. Matt shares his personal journey into the world of Bigfoot, recounts fascinating encounters, and discusses the peculiar occurrences near the Y12 National...

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Season 1

Join us as we sit down with Matt Sieber, a seasoned Bigfoot researcher and author from Tennessee. Matt shares his personal journey into the world of Bigfoot, recounts fascinating encounters, and discusses the peculiar occurrences near the Y12 National Security Complex. He delves into the rich history of Bigfoot sightings in the Appalachian region, the impact of such experiences on witnesses, and the challenges of researching this elusive creature. A must-watch for anyone intrigued by cryptids and the mysteries of the wilderness.

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slash the Bigfoot Society, and now let's get on with

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the show our Bigfoot Society. I've got the privilege of

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talking to mister Matt Seber from the Great State of Tennessee.

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He is a bigfoot researcher down there. He's also an author.

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He's written the book Bigfoot Perspectives from the Foothills of Tennessee,

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which I recommend everyone pick up a copy of that.

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It's really a look at is his life, but also

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some fun encounter is along the way in the book.

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So Matt, welcome to the program.

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How are you doing sir, Hey, I'm doing good, Jeremiah.

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It's good to be here.

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Absolutely. Is there anything that else that you would like

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listeners to know about you right off the bat before

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we get into it.

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Oh, I don't suppose. I've been doing this for many years.

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I've been doing it since two thousand and five. My

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son had an encounter you can read about that in

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my book as well, when he was fifteen years old,

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and I just I got sucked into this stuff really

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by accident. I've not had an experience per se. I've

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had some strange things happen to me, but for the

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most part, I'm not a witness, but I am. I'm

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It changes you, it really does. You get involved with

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this stuff, you look down every rabbit hole that's out there,

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and you become a conspiracy theorist and all this good stuff.

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So I'm all of that.

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Oh yeah, it can get wild, and especially if you're

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in a especially if you're in a state like you

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where there is so much stuff going on all the time.

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Oh yeah, and that's just current day. And then if

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you get into the history, the Bigfoot history down there,

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Oh my goodness, I would just go down every rabbit

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hole that I could if I live down there. My goodness,

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Remind me, Matt, what region of the state are you

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primarily researching down there.

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I'm in the East Tennessee area, the Appalachians, Smoky Mountain Area,

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places like that. I am very accustomed to being around

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the mountains what they would call them, of course, the

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book says foothills, and that's what they tend to call

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that stuff around here.

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Of Course, we're not as big as the Rockies.

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You've got the Smoky Mountain Range, and then you've got

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all the Appalachians from up and I think it starts

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somewhere up in Maine or New York, all the way

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down into Alabama. There's just a lot of cricks and

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grannies down in this area. Plus there's a lot of

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strange occurrences down here too. We've got the Y twelve

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National Security Complex operated by Doe and oak Ridge, Tennessee,

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which is probably less than ten miles from where I live,

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and there are a lot of things going on in

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that place that people say are very strange.

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That was the place in World War Two where.

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The uranium was enriched for the atomic bombs that were

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dropped on Japan.

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Oh my goodness, I didn't know that that's at the

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Oakridge facility or is that difference? Yes, it is, Okay,

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I listened to I don't listen to a lot of

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other podcasts, but I listened to a few, and I

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know that place comes up on Tony's podcast of Confessionals,

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and it sounds like there's some really weird stuff going

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on in that area. You've got everything from Barefoot dog

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Man potential portals. Who knows what is being what is

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happening in that area. It's pretty much like a many cern, right.

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Yeah, Yeah, that's what I've been hearing.

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I listened to Tony as well, And of course Tony

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lives probably he's moved here from Pennsylvania, I believe it was.

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He said he's probably less than forty miles from the

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Wideworf complex. Yeah, he's hearing things from people, and I'm

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hearing things from people, and I've heard stories for years

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about people seeing things down there, and of course that

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when you talk about the portals, people have said things

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like we don't know what's coming out, and we don't

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know how to get them back in kind of things.

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Just they just say things that kind of leave you

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hanging so now, I've never seen anything any stranger than

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just the run of the meal stuff around where I

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live and work.

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But yeah, it's it's always a possibility there.

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So do you have people themselves coming to you and saying, hey,

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there's stuff coming out of portals or is this just

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stuff that you're hearing off of.

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I've heard, especially from Tony, he's had some guests on

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there talked about that stuff. But also I've had people

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come to me directly about bigfoot sightings out of that area.

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The tracks that I've found, pictures found and taking pictures

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of as far as the crow flies less than a

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mile from their perimeter, fits kind of thing. There are

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a lot of sightings down in that area, a lot

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of stories of where the officers who patrol the place

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have seen things. Of course I can't name any names,

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but I've heard stories like that ever since I was

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a kid. Strange things over in that area, because once

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something decides to live in a certain place and they

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know it's there and they can't really do anything about it,

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but they can keep people out and you get shot

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going across the gates over that place.

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So knowing the history of that area, because you know,

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growing up in that area, these big foot settings, they

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go pretty far back.

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It sounds like, yeah, now most again, most of the

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people that talk to me, most of the people actually

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will come up to me and tell me their stories.

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So many of them are from forty and fifty years

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ago and things like that. And of course I had

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wrote about an encounter that a great uncle had when

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he was very young, and I'm guessing that was in

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the twenties or thirty.

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I'm not real sure about that anymore.

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But yeah, there's always been stories like this going around,

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and of course Bigfoot was never really the name.

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When you understand that happened that came about in the fifties.

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People talked talked.

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About them at mountain boogers and holler haints and things

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like that. Don't go up into that part of the

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on that part of the ridge, something will get you, that.

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Kind of stuff.

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And that's always been a part of my life. And

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of course my grandpa would always tell me when I

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would start to go squirrel hunting or something, he say,

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watch your back, just watch your back.

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And he would always prefer that I not go alone.

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And of course nothing ever really happened. I mean, I

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did have an experience of some quietness and just a

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strange feeling, but I never actually encountered anything. But yeah,

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it's the stories are abundant around here, if the people

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are willing to talk to you. That's one of the

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things about around here. A lot of people don't say

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anything because they'll get ridiculed, they'll be made fun of.

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So now, I had an individual reach out to me

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through email about probably half a year ago. She had

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a really interesting story. Her story was that is an

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area in East Tennessee where they had a lot of

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people moving in from out of state and they got

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these new neighbors that had moved in from Las Vegas.

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And the new neighbors came over one night to their

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house and said, Hey, by the way, do you guys

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have silver backed gorillas out here?

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Wow?

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Yeah? And they were like, no, you guys probably saw

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one of the bigfoot that are around our area. And

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they were like, oh, okay, we get how it is now.

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So unfortunately I wasn't able to.

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Take that pretty well, didn't they?

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Yeah, But I haven't been able to talk to that individual.

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Hopefully someday they'll reach back out. But what kind of

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descriptions are you getting in that area of how the

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bigfoot look.

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The ones that have been more, they've been whereack people

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have actually taken a good hard look.

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I did again. I wrote about several of these in

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the book that I've written. My mother saw what she thought.

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Was a dead cedar tree standing on the side of

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the road. The one my sister saw was very short,

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she would she imagined it close to around four feet

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tall and very skinny and mangy looking. And then I've

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heard other stories where they were seven and eight feet tall,

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brown black, and personally just around here close to where

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I live, most of them are brown and black, anywhere

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from six to eight feet tall.

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Covered with hair.

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The other one, Fella kindly described the back of the

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hair growing off the back of its on was like

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the front leg of a gold or golden retriever or

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an Irish setter.

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And now the hair flows down the center.

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Of their front arm, of their front leg, and it

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just hung down about six inches off the back of

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their arm.

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It was shorter up close and up top, so it

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was Yeah, it's pretty much run of the meal. Here.

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I have heard of a story of one in particular

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in the state, not necessarily East Tennessee, but these are

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stories I've heard where there is a possible fifteen footer

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in a state park in Middle Tennessee.

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Of course, I don't know if that's true or not,

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but that's a pretty big fella right there.

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I have heard the same stories, Matt, and I know

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that we probably aren't going to say the name of

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that park. Yeah, we'll let other people say the name

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on other shows, but it's not going to be said

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on this one. But yeah, I know exactly what you're

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talking about. And that place sounds insane.

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Yeah, that's really Yeah. I've been there once. Beautiful place. Yeah,

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I've been there once. Beautiful place.

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Just the stuff that goes comes out of that area,

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I would be nervous to go in that area.

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Yeah, yeah, for sure.

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Yeah, But that that is what it is. So you are,

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you're a researcher. Now do you do independent researcher? Are

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you going out? Do you have a group or are

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you with national groups or no?

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It's just it's mostly me nowadays. I have a few

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people that help me when I need them to.

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But again here where I live and me personally, I'm

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not too well known. I'm not syndicated nationally. I don't think,

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but a lot of people don't know I'm here, and

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a lot of stuff gets past me and gets to

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other folks such as yourself, which is fine and no

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big deal. But I don't get very many reports, and I.

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Would say probably since two thousand and five.

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And when I first started this, I tried to do,

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like the BFRO I was doing. I was doing the weather,

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time of year, time of day, what were the.

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Conditions were you near water?

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Where I was going through that whole she bank sitting

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down for an hour at a time right now. The

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report and every report I was writing sort of sounding

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the same. They were all during the daytime, or they

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were all during the night time. I just once the

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story got to be it became mundane, actually, Jeremiah, that's

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what it became to me as far I know that

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sounds crazy, but the stories just became mundane to me

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because most of them where people were driving down the

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road at night and it would cross in front of them,

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or it was standing on the side of the road.

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A vast majority of the sightings that have been given

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to me reported to me have been very close to civilizations,

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in some cases behind.

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People's houses and neighborhoods, and things like that.

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I don't believe anybody has to go really far out

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into the wilderness to happen upon these things.

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They staying close. They're as close to us.

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They're probably uncomfortably close if we thought about it very hard,

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because a lot of people see them and they're through

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their windows at nine and on a country farm or something,

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which they may be a few miles out of town

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or out in the country all by itself, with maybe

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a mile or two between houses or something, but that's

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still it's still pretty close to civilization. There's just so

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many things about trying to keep up with all that.

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I finally gave up on doing that and just started

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talking to people and just trying to start a conversation

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just to listen to what the stories are they have,

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trying to piece together ideas and opinions about why they

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do what they do, where they go, why they go there,

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what they eat, Why would they be hanging around in

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a certain place at a certain time of the year.

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Do they migrate, are they transient? Do they follow the wildlife?

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Just all those different questions start popping up in my head.

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And again, the sightings that have been reported to me

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that were very intense, that's what they were. And the

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people's faces were as seriously as they could be. There

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were tears in their eyes, they were adamant about what

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they'd say, and there was no reason why I shouldn't

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believe what they had to say.

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And obviously my mom doesn't.

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My mom would never obliged to me, so I know

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what she saw was what she saw.

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It's a whole different ballgame. I learned this when I

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went out to Oregon this summer. When you take a

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report from someone or hear their story, when it's face

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to face in real life as opposed to over the

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phone man, and you've I know you've experienced this yourself

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because I just from how you're talking. But it's like

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there's some people that they get right back into the

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emotional state that they were in at that time, and

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I want to ask them questions, but you're like, I

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don't want to keep them in this emotional state for

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too long. We got to get them back out of it.

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It's just it is the wildest thing I've ever experienced,

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to be honest.

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Yeah, I say things like, hey, you got to realize

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that you're one of the few people in the world

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that's actually encountered this. It's actually seeing this, you could

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consider yourself for fortunate to it. At least you at

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least know now that they exist and you can't be

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lied to about it anymore.

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So, yeah, it doesn't comfort them very much.

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Because again, most of the people, I wish I'd never

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seen this. I wish this had never been a part

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of my life. I know people who once they've seen it,

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they've retreated back into their homes, they don't go out much.

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It really wrecked them.

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And then there's other folks that, my gosh, they want

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some gung hole like me. Again, it was a family

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member that saw what they saw when that got me involved.

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But I know one individual that he saw one and

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he's in.

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The woods all the time.

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He probably has seen more and knows more about the

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subject than I do.

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But he don't share anything he knows. He don't talk

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about it to anybody.

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Occasionally he'll give me a text or a message on Facebook,

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Hey what you heard lately?

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What's going on?

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And I'll say, not a thing, he said, I'm busy.

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He knows there's some things going on, but he's not

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sharing it. And that's fine to you.

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I mean, most people don't believe the stories anyway, And

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I stopped trying to convince people of their reality years ago.

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Yeah, and that's I don't think it's our job. The

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way I look at it is, it's not my job

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to convince anyone for sure, but it is my job

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to try to help someone, yes, figure out what you know,

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work through it, and then get back and control of

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their lives again, be able to get past it. Yeah,

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which is hard when it sounds like both of us

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we neither of us have had an actual sighting. We've

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had probably I would say class B experiences, yeah, which

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can be crazy enough.

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Oh, yeah, that the few things that happened to me.

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I think maybe the one thing that happened to me

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is where I had what they call mind speak. I

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think that's what kept me in it. I think that

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was the thing that convinced me that there's really something

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going on. And my family just wasn't pulling a goof

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on me, because that's what people do sometimes. But when

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that happened, Yeah, I couldn't get away from it. After that,

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I just couldn't.

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And again, in the.

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Very beginning, and you can ask some of my friends

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about this, I would go out in the woods and

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I do these things. I'd be looking around and all

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this stuff and every twig that snapped, every twisted tree,

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every down limb in the woods, or anything like everything

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with sasquatch. Everything that's a bigfoot, that's bigfoot sign that's

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I had no clue.

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I had no clue.

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And nearly twenty years later, I'm at a point now

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where I'm one of the most skeptical people around. I'll

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see all kinds of social media pictures of sasquatch, bigfoot, whatever,

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and I'll look at that and I'll think, Nope. Off

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the bat, I said, no, I don't believe that one.

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There are only a few out there that I truly

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believe are legitimate. But now that's the whole other thing.

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But Yeah, as I've grown older and been in this

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along and heard so many stories and my thought.

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Process has changed.

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I used to think again, it was the undiscovered ape,

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the primate that's all over the world that really nobody

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knows about. And I thought, that's where I'm gonna stick.

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And all this time later, I'm as far out and

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left field as pretty much anybody else. As far as

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it goes, I don't know who or what they are,

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but it's not simple.

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It's definitely not simple.

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I would guess that when you start having something happen

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like mind speak, it totally changes the way you look

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at things.

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It has to be the only thing I can liken

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it too. I'm a person of faith, and I believe

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that my God in.

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Heaven has spoken to my heart a few times about

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some things in my life to do something or to

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say something to someone or encourage somebody.

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This thing that happened to me was more intense than that,

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and it was very unsafe. It was.

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Unnerving, but at the same time, I didn't feel threatened

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by it. I just felt just an overwhelming sense of Wow,

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whatever said that or whoever said that is getting into

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my mind, and that was not very pleasant. And it

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just struck me and people on the more down the

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center or over in the right side of things that

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don't exist.

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That was your imagination. That was just something planned.

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And I can't say honestly that it wasn't my imagination

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because that was the very same summer. All this stuff

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was going on around my home, and I never dreamed

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in a million years that there was going to be

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a big foot in Tennessee.

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I'm sure you've heard that before, now.

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Specific South Pacific, Northwest or down in South Florida or

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somewhere like that, but not East Tennessee. I had no

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idea they were around here, you know, the things my

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grandpa told me. I never gave it much thought and

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all that kind of stuff, And then when all this

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stuff started happening, it.

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Was going through my mind all the time.

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So yeah, I can say, I guess I'm ninety nine

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percent sure that what I'd encountered was real, but there

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is that possibility it was my mind. But I definitely

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haven't let go of that. And it was a life

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changer for me. Just like this friend of mine who

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had that eye siding big thing walk across the road

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in front of this truck.

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He's a bigfoot hunter.

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Now as far as I don't mean hunting with a gun,

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I'm against that all the way. But he's a researcher.

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He's an investigator. He goes out and he's always looking

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for these things, and he's educating himself with all the

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different ideas of what these things could be. And I

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think that's great. But at the same time I could

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get rid of him a little bit.

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Yeah, absolutely, when people share with me how if they've

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experienced mind speak, I found that there can be two

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different ways. There can be sometimes the person does actually

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hear like a different type of voice in their head,

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and then sometimes there could be like almost intrusive thoughts,

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which is, these are not thoughts that I would have ever,

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something is off here? Do you did you feel like

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you were towards either or side of those two?

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My mind speaking counter experience was it was in my head.

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There was a voice in my head, a voice I

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had never heard before. It was not my voice, It

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wasn't a nudge for my spirituality kind of thing. It

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was a voice that simply said I'm here. And as

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that voice spoke with my eyes closed, I visualized and

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again it was just it was sudden.

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It was like there was a smoky haze and there

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were two large black eyes looking me dead in the face.

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I didn't see a nose, I didn't see a mouth.

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All I saw was the two eyes.

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With a grayish smoke haze around them.

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And that.

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Made me raise up in my bed basically, and I thought, Okay,

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what was that? And it only happened one time, and

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that's the only type of experience I've had and I

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have heard that there are two different types of mind speak,

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where you have a visual encounter along with a voice,

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and then you just have the voice. And I've heard

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of a particular encounter from a young man who did

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not see what I saw in any kind of sense,

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but what he was it was like something was being

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pushed into his mind that whatever that Sasquatch had seen,

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he was showing that to the person. And what he

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was showing to that person, to the young man was

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what the Bigfoot watched him and his family do that day.

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So the Bigfoot was hiding somewhere and he was watching

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he and his family haick around or go to a

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playground or something wherever they were or whatever they were doing,

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he was watching. The Bigfoot was watching them, and he

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was like playing that back to the young man in

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his head and then.

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Talking to him about stuff. And I thought, Okay, that's

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really creepy. So I have no reason to doubt that.

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But my experience wasn't quite like that at all, and

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I'm really.

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Glad at it.

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That is extremely creepy. It is weird how sometimes with

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this it'll happen one times to one time to a

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person or like multiple times for a few months, and

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then it'll just completely clear out and it's just it

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just doesn't make any sense at all. It's very strange. Yeah,

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I'm still trying to wrap my mind around it as well.

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Sometimes I hear you might go to a certain place,

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a certain area and then backing kick things off. Maybe

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you have an interaction with one or you're just even

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in an area that has a lot of activity. I

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think that can that type of interaction can kick things

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off too, But I don't know if we'll ever know

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the answers to that, to be honest. But I want

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to ask you about East Tennessee bigfoot and when you

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think of bigfoot in that region, are there stories that

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you've heard from over the years, encounters, sightings that seem

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to get passed around all the campfires down there. Everyone

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always brings up the one certain account for down in

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East time.

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Actually, actually I haven't. I haven't experienced that kind of thing.

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Like I mentioned earlier, a lot of the.

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Stories that get reported to me are very similar. It's

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not I've never I don't think I've ever had a

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report given to me that was incredible, you know what

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I mean. I guess maybe one or two, but it

466
00:24:07.839 --> 00:24:12.240
was still it was not necessarily anything supernatural, but it

467
00:24:12.319 --> 00:24:12.960
was strange.

468
00:24:13.880 --> 00:24:15.640
But at the same time, again, a.

469
00:24:15.680 --> 00:24:17.720
Lot of people don't talk to me about stuff like this,

470
00:24:18.839 --> 00:24:21.759
but I I think about it, and I think about it.

471
00:24:21.759 --> 00:24:27.960
There's really not any specific camp camp fire story that

472
00:24:28.039 --> 00:24:29.200
people share about.

473
00:24:28.920 --> 00:24:29.960
These things around here.

474
00:24:30.519 --> 00:24:33.039
I can't really think of any campfire story anybody shares

475
00:24:33.079 --> 00:24:35.559
around here, or at least shared with me at any

476
00:24:35.559 --> 00:24:45.079
point in time. There's always the old man with a hook. Yeah,

477
00:24:45.200 --> 00:24:48.839
nothing about a big food or anything like that. And no,

478
00:24:49.359 --> 00:24:51.440
we don't have anything like that, at least not around

479
00:24:51.480 --> 00:24:52.119
where I'm at.

480
00:24:52.279 --> 00:24:56.519
So living in the area of East Tennessee, and it

481
00:24:56.559 --> 00:25:00.000
sounds like around the area of the Great Smoking Mounta

482
00:25:00.079 --> 00:25:03.440
in National Park in that region. Do you have any

483
00:25:03.440 --> 00:25:07.440
thoughts about the whole missing four one one or people

484
00:25:07.480 --> 00:25:12.240
thinking that Bigfoot might be related to disappearances that happen

485
00:25:13.119 --> 00:25:15.640
around that area of the park. Do you think that

486
00:25:15.839 --> 00:25:16.920
could actually be a thing.

487
00:25:17.119 --> 00:25:20.200
It could be I do I have a look when

488
00:25:20.200 --> 00:25:22.319
we both I'm sure you've read the story about the

489
00:25:22.680 --> 00:25:25.720
young boy who got taken by something back in the

490
00:25:25.799 --> 00:25:31.119
late sixties and he never returned, and some witnesses saw

491
00:25:32.240 --> 00:25:38.640
what they thought was a dirty, underdressed man with something

492
00:25:38.680 --> 00:25:40.440
over his shoulder walking away.

493
00:25:41.240 --> 00:25:41.880
I really don't.

494
00:25:42.000 --> 00:25:45.440
I really don't know if that's something that's that is

495
00:25:45.519 --> 00:25:50.440
Bigfoot related or if it was human related, and nobody's

496
00:25:50.440 --> 00:25:52.880
ever found out. I believe what is his last name

497
00:25:52.960 --> 00:25:57.039
was Martin Smart and smart you're right, yeah, yeah, And

498
00:25:58.240 --> 00:25:59.799
I was thinking you were going to go in another

499
00:26:00.559 --> 00:26:05.279
but yeah, I have a I have an inkling that, yeah,

500
00:26:05.480 --> 00:26:09.279
that they may be involved in some of these missing people.

501
00:26:11.119 --> 00:26:15.359
How else, how does somebody just go missing just in

502
00:26:15.400 --> 00:26:16.440
the snap of a finger?

503
00:26:16.519 --> 00:26:17.640
How does that even happen?

504
00:26:18.480 --> 00:26:21.880
And they have found children or the remains of children

505
00:26:22.519 --> 00:26:27.119
miles away from where they were lost, across rivers miles away,

506
00:26:27.200 --> 00:26:29.519
and there's no way that child could have walked through

507
00:26:29.519 --> 00:26:32.359
that river, a two or three year old kid, that's

508
00:26:32.400 --> 00:26:33.160
not possible.

509
00:26:33.279 --> 00:26:35.440
And sometimes they find.

510
00:26:35.200 --> 00:26:38.960
People with their clothes on backwards and or they're a closer,

511
00:26:39.079 --> 00:26:42.240
all removed, but they're folded next to their bodies, and

512
00:26:42.319 --> 00:26:48.319
that's just that's not normal. That's not it's just not

513
00:26:48.480 --> 00:26:53.640
humanly possible in my opinion, unless, of course, somebody is

514
00:26:53.720 --> 00:26:54.200
doing that.

515
00:26:54.279 --> 00:26:55.839
And I won't take away from any of that.

516
00:26:56.000 --> 00:26:58.000
I personally think that humans are probably some of the

517
00:26:58.039 --> 00:26:59.359
worst people out there.

518
00:26:59.759 --> 00:27:03.200
So I think that'd be even might be even more

519
00:27:03.279 --> 00:27:06.720
scary than Bigfoot. To know that there's a group of

520
00:27:06.839 --> 00:27:11.640
organized humans out there that are doing everything that is

521
00:27:11.920 --> 00:27:14.400
weird and reported to do with missing four on one,

522
00:27:14.559 --> 00:27:18.559
that would be even more horrifying. I think that's just me.

523
00:27:19.319 --> 00:27:22.480
But do you have any thoughts as to why it

524
00:27:22.559 --> 00:27:27.000
seems like there's just a whole bunch of weirdness that

525
00:27:27.559 --> 00:27:31.319
groups itself down in East Tennessee. But then you also

526
00:27:31.359 --> 00:27:34.319
have North Carolina, the western North Carolina, and do you

527
00:27:34.359 --> 00:27:36.920
have any thoughts about why it all seems to gather

528
00:27:37.039 --> 00:27:37.440
down there.

529
00:27:39.839 --> 00:27:44.039
Oh, I'm gonna put a whole lot of thought into it.

530
00:27:44.079 --> 00:27:47.279
But when you think about the history of this area,

531
00:27:48.640 --> 00:27:52.920
there were a lot of people from Ireland and Scotland

532
00:27:53.240 --> 00:27:57.200
and the poorer areas of Great Britain that came over

533
00:27:57.240 --> 00:28:00.759
here and they settled into these mountains, they tried to eat,

534
00:28:00.799 --> 00:28:02.880
got to live in on these rocky hills, and.

535
00:28:04.680 --> 00:28:05.480
I've had people.

536
00:28:05.599 --> 00:28:10.440
I've heard people say that they brought their beliefs with them,

537
00:28:10.759 --> 00:28:12.759
And I'm one of those type of people that believes

538
00:28:12.759 --> 00:28:16.240
that there's a if there's a myth or if there

539
00:28:16.319 --> 00:28:20.400
is a legend that's out there about anything at all, there.

540
00:28:20.200 --> 00:28:22.000
Has to be some truth to it somewhere.

541
00:28:23.000 --> 00:28:27.640
And maybe these people brought these, for lack of a

542
00:28:27.680 --> 00:28:29.440
better term, spirits with them.

543
00:28:30.279 --> 00:28:31.920
And now these same.

544
00:28:31.720 --> 00:28:35.440
Spirits who roamed Ireland and Scotland about hundreds of years

545
00:28:35.480 --> 00:28:40.039
ago are now also here in the mountains of North

546
00:28:40.039 --> 00:28:43.480
Carolina and here in East Tennessee. Some of these things

547
00:28:43.880 --> 00:28:47.079
they talk about, things that steal babies and stuff like that,

548
00:28:47.160 --> 00:28:49.319
and there's always that kind of stuff going on. I

549
00:28:49.359 --> 00:28:51.839
remember when I was a very young child, there was

550
00:28:52.079 --> 00:28:55.240
an old lady in our family that she was near death,

551
00:28:55.400 --> 00:29:00.240
and everybody believes that there was a bird some now

552
00:29:00.839 --> 00:29:03.319
got down into a chimney when the fire was low,

553
00:29:03.359 --> 00:29:06.799
and when they stoked the fire back up, the birds

554
00:29:06.839 --> 00:29:10.160
started flapping around and died, and the old lady just

555
00:29:10.359 --> 00:29:12.599
basically got out of the bed and just she was

556
00:29:12.640 --> 00:29:15.160
screaming that that was some kind of an omen So

557
00:29:15.240 --> 00:29:19.000
that kind of belief system, even around Christianity, it was

558
00:29:19.039 --> 00:29:20.640
still intertwined.

559
00:29:20.039 --> 00:29:21.839
With a lot of these people in the mountains.

560
00:29:22.319 --> 00:29:25.440
They have these superstitions and these ideas, and I can't

561
00:29:25.480 --> 00:29:27.559
take that away from them. I don't know what's real

562
00:29:27.599 --> 00:29:32.839
and what's not, But people, superstition was really big and

563
00:29:32.960 --> 00:29:36.279
still isn't. It's part of who we are. It's part

564
00:29:36.279 --> 00:29:37.680
of what made us who we are.

565
00:29:38.960 --> 00:29:44.680
Have you found that in that area known for a

566
00:29:44.680 --> 00:29:50.039
heavy religious community, I would imagine, how would you? How

567
00:29:50.039 --> 00:29:54.519
have you found that churches down their Christians, those that

568
00:29:54.839 --> 00:29:59.000
are fallow the Bible? How are the coming to terms

569
00:29:59.039 --> 00:30:02.319
with all of the weirdness if fat lives in that

570
00:30:02.359 --> 00:30:05.119
area and you've got your big foot sightings, dog man

571
00:30:05.839 --> 00:30:10.240
and even even weirder stuff than that, and they aren't.

572
00:30:10.759 --> 00:30:13.559
They don't talk about it. They really don't have a clue.

573
00:30:14.000 --> 00:30:15.880
They don't want to talk about it. They don't want

574
00:30:15.920 --> 00:30:16.640
to talk about it.

575
00:30:17.200 --> 00:30:20.440
I've been I've been in several churches over my life,

576
00:30:20.920 --> 00:30:24.079
and I've been in several classes where people teach and

577
00:30:24.119 --> 00:30:25.039
they would bring up.

578
00:30:26.599 --> 00:30:29.160
The idea of bigfoot. Oh, there ain't no way, there

579
00:30:29.160 --> 00:30:31.079
ain't nothing like that wasn't on the art.

580
00:30:31.160 --> 00:30:33.079
God didn't say that was in the Bible, and all

581
00:30:33.079 --> 00:30:35.519
this kind of stuff, And really, you know, to me,

582
00:30:36.119 --> 00:30:37.920
just a slap in my face and a slap in

583
00:30:37.960 --> 00:30:40.640
God's face. As far as I'm concerned. He didn't tell

584
00:30:40.720 --> 00:30:42.240
us there were raccoons out here.

585
00:30:42.119 --> 00:30:42.680
Either, but we.

586
00:30:42.720 --> 00:30:46.680
Got them and so so Yeah, I think there's a

587
00:30:46.720 --> 00:30:52.359
spiritually closed mind even today in most of the Christian churches,

588
00:30:53.319 --> 00:30:56.920
especially here in Tennessee. They believe what they believe, and

589
00:30:57.000 --> 00:30:59.640
that's fine. I don't have any I probably agree with

590
00:30:59.680 --> 00:31:02.799
most of everything they believe. But at the same time,

591
00:31:04.279 --> 00:31:06.640
they have closed their minds off to the things they

592
00:31:06.680 --> 00:31:10.319
can't explain. They simply can't and I can't do that.

593
00:31:10.440 --> 00:31:14.680
I mean, I'm pretty set. I don't think there's anybody

594
00:31:14.720 --> 00:31:17.920
that could show me anything that would change my belief

595
00:31:18.000 --> 00:31:23.519
about my religious convictions. But there's a lot of stuff

596
00:31:23.519 --> 00:31:25.440
out there that could change my mind on when and

597
00:31:25.480 --> 00:31:26.720
how it all took place.

598
00:31:27.519 --> 00:31:29.720
I went from a here.

599
00:31:29.599 --> 00:31:31.279
In the past few years, I've gone from a young

600
00:31:31.359 --> 00:31:34.000
creationist to a not so young creationist. Even though I

601
00:31:34.039 --> 00:31:37.440
am a creationist, a Young Earth or Old Earth. There's

602
00:31:37.519 --> 00:31:41.519
just too much out there that's ancient and that's been

603
00:31:41.599 --> 00:31:42.960
here for a very long time.

604
00:31:43.039 --> 00:31:45.759
That talking about like things out down in Peru, the.

605
00:31:45.759 --> 00:31:48.359
Way they built those walls down in Peru, the fact

606
00:31:48.359 --> 00:31:51.759
they melted marshmallows and stuck them together, those folks at

607
00:31:51.759 --> 00:31:54.160
that time couldn't do that kind of stuff. It's just

608
00:31:54.200 --> 00:31:57.200
not possible. So somebody else did it and we just

609
00:31:57.240 --> 00:32:00.000
don't know who. So that's the way I think about things.

610
00:32:00.079 --> 00:32:02.480
And of course nobody wants to talk about that kind

611
00:32:02.480 --> 00:32:05.839
of stuff and in any kind of religious setting. It's

612
00:32:05.920 --> 00:32:08.759
just maybe most people are just afraid of the idea

613
00:32:08.799 --> 00:32:10.559
that there's something out there in the dark that they

614
00:32:10.559 --> 00:32:13.519
don't know about, that it's bigger than them and faster

615
00:32:13.640 --> 00:32:16.440
than them and could read cavoc on their.

616
00:32:16.319 --> 00:32:19.880
Lives if it chose to. So maybe that's it. I

617
00:32:19.920 --> 00:32:20.319
don't know.

618
00:32:20.880 --> 00:32:25.240
It could definitely wear very well be I think maybe

619
00:32:25.279 --> 00:32:28.160
some of it could also be people have their thoughts

620
00:32:28.200 --> 00:32:32.000
about how life works and how everything's connected, and they

621
00:32:32.200 --> 00:32:34.960
just have no time to sit down and think, and

622
00:32:35.240 --> 00:32:37.680
if something comes in and messes all that up.

623
00:32:37.599 --> 00:32:37.920
Then.

624
00:32:40.480 --> 00:32:44.160
People That's why so many people when they have these encounters,

625
00:32:44.160 --> 00:32:45.240
are just so shaken.

626
00:32:45.319 --> 00:32:45.559
Mind.

627
00:32:46.119 --> 00:32:49.359
I'm not saying that if I saw Bigfoot tomorrow or

628
00:32:49.400 --> 00:32:51.680
in the morning as I drive to work, that it's

629
00:32:51.720 --> 00:32:52.839
not going to freak me out.

630
00:32:53.440 --> 00:32:56.960
But it's not like I'm not expecting it because I

631
00:32:57.039 --> 00:32:57.640
already know.

632
00:32:57.640 --> 00:33:02.440
They exist and have to see it to know they exists.

633
00:33:02.720 --> 00:33:05.240
I've heard too much, I've read too much. Too many

634
00:33:05.279 --> 00:33:08.519
people have talked to me that I trust.

635
00:33:09.119 --> 00:33:10.519
There's no way it cannot be real.

636
00:33:10.839 --> 00:33:13.680
I have found tracks, I have found what looked like

637
00:33:13.720 --> 00:33:16.559
tree structures. I have heard tree knocks, and I have

638
00:33:16.640 --> 00:33:17.359
heard whistling.

639
00:33:18.240 --> 00:33:22.039
It's just it's out there. They are out there.

640
00:33:22.200 --> 00:33:24.559
And that's another funny thing, too, Jeremiah, when I talk

641
00:33:24.640 --> 00:33:26.960
to somebody who really doesn't have a clue about these things,

642
00:33:27.000 --> 00:33:29.640
and they'll say something like, they found bigfoot over today.

643
00:33:29.680 --> 00:33:33.279
What do you reckon he's doing so like that.

644
00:33:33.759 --> 00:33:36.200
They had this idea there's only one big foot, they

645
00:33:36.200 --> 00:33:37.319
saw him in California.

646
00:33:37.400 --> 00:33:41.240
How did you get the Idaho so fast? I said, dude,

647
00:33:41.559 --> 00:33:43.000
we're talking about a species.

648
00:33:43.039 --> 00:33:46.680
We're talking about possibly tens of thousands at least of

649
00:33:46.720 --> 00:33:50.319
these things running around, and oh, surely not.

650
00:33:50.559 --> 00:33:53.799
Yeah, you need to look into this. And sometimes they'll.

651
00:33:53.519 --> 00:33:55.119
Read into it and then they'll come back and talk

652
00:33:55.119 --> 00:33:56.720
to me later. But most of the time they just

653
00:33:56.799 --> 00:33:59.319
laugh at me. And that's fine. I'm good with it.

654
00:33:59.359 --> 00:34:02.240
I've gotten so used to that I don't even care.

655
00:34:02.559 --> 00:34:05.839
Do you feel okay? There's a question I've been asking

656
00:34:05.839 --> 00:34:08.719
people recently and just to see what the consensus is.

657
00:34:08.880 --> 00:34:11.000
Do you feel that over the last few years there

658
00:34:11.039 --> 00:34:17.519
have been more people coming forward with sharing what they've

659
00:34:17.599 --> 00:34:20.960
experienced related to Bigfoot.

660
00:34:22.559 --> 00:34:26.519
Overall, I believe so, yes, but not necessarily in my area.

661
00:34:26.719 --> 00:34:30.239
Again, people are very stand offish to me personally.

662
00:34:30.280 --> 00:34:33.400
But now when I can, I go to these festivals

663
00:34:33.400 --> 00:34:36.719
and some of these conferences here in the area, people say,

664
00:34:36.840 --> 00:34:39.599
we'll talk to me. They'll tell me their stories, and

665
00:34:40.440 --> 00:34:42.880
they'll say things like I'll have you come up to

666
00:34:42.920 --> 00:34:45.360
my house, what's your email, and I'll give them my

667
00:34:45.400 --> 00:34:48.559
email address, and I never hear from them again. They

668
00:34:48.679 --> 00:34:51.440
second think they want to tell me what they've seen,

669
00:34:52.320 --> 00:34:56.119
and like you mentioned earlier, they need a vent. You

670
00:34:56.119 --> 00:34:58.280
and I both we feel like we could be people

671
00:34:58.360 --> 00:35:01.280
that can help them vent this out, maybe get along

672
00:35:01.280 --> 00:35:04.800
and get on with their lives not so traumatized. I

673
00:35:04.840 --> 00:35:06.960
think that's what I've come to most of the people

674
00:35:07.039 --> 00:35:09.480
that talk to me, I'm just somebody that they can.

675
00:35:09.360 --> 00:35:10.760
Talk to get it off their chest.

676
00:35:10.880 --> 00:35:13.639
Because most of the people I've never told they say

677
00:35:13.679 --> 00:35:16.079
things like I've only told two other people in my

678
00:35:16.199 --> 00:35:18.599
life what happened to me, or I've never told anybody

679
00:35:18.679 --> 00:35:21.559
else because they made fun of me, and I was

680
00:35:21.599 --> 00:35:23.280
afraid they would make fun of me and all this

681
00:35:23.360 --> 00:35:25.880
kind of stuff. And so I'm glad you let me

682
00:35:25.920 --> 00:35:28.719
hear what you had say, and that made me feel

683
00:35:28.760 --> 00:35:30.320
good that they were able.

684
00:35:30.079 --> 00:35:33.559
To trust me, of course. And I'll be honest with you, German,

685
00:35:33.599 --> 00:35:34.679
I've heard some of these stories.

686
00:35:34.920 --> 00:35:37.599
I've probably forgotten more than i've heard now, because, like

687
00:35:37.639 --> 00:35:40.760
I say, I stopped writing them down years ago because

688
00:35:40.760 --> 00:35:42.639
a lot of times and most of the time, they're

689
00:35:42.760 --> 00:35:46.000
very similar in the way they hammer out around here.

690
00:35:46.039 --> 00:35:48.239
It's just it's not something.

691
00:35:48.079 --> 00:35:52.480
Overly strange other than well, they saw it walking across

692
00:35:52.480 --> 00:35:55.079
the road, or they saw it standing behind a tree

693
00:35:55.280 --> 00:35:58.719
and all that good stuff. But I do one thing

694
00:35:58.960 --> 00:36:00.960
I will say I need to share this with you,

695
00:36:01.039 --> 00:36:04.519
is there is a question that I ask people who

696
00:36:05.000 --> 00:36:08.360
talk to me about these things. I don't ask them

697
00:36:08.480 --> 00:36:11.159
what they believe necessarily. I just ask them whether or

698
00:36:11.159 --> 00:36:15.400
not they have any kind of psychic abilities or if

699
00:36:15.400 --> 00:36:16.639
they are spiritual people.

700
00:36:17.559 --> 00:36:20.639
And nine times out of ten they say they are

701
00:36:21.000 --> 00:36:25.480
or someone in their family is. So there's always that

702
00:36:25.599 --> 00:36:27.360
possibility that.

703
00:36:28.960 --> 00:36:35.000
There's something about people like those who have intuitions or

704
00:36:36.079 --> 00:36:40.199
some sort of ability to like mediums and people like that.

705
00:36:40.320 --> 00:36:41.599
I believe that stuff is real.

706
00:36:41.719 --> 00:36:43.559
I don't know if it's a good thing or a

707
00:36:43.559 --> 00:36:45.960
bad thing, but I know it exists. I have a

708
00:36:45.960 --> 00:36:49.360
member in my group. She is a former medium and

709
00:36:49.519 --> 00:36:52.719
she has some of these abilities. She's actually helped sheriff's

710
00:36:52.760 --> 00:36:57.679
departments find people who went missing. And every time she

711
00:36:57.800 --> 00:37:00.519
goes in the woods. Every time she goes in the woods,

712
00:37:01.480 --> 00:37:07.239
something approaches her. Something either whistles, growls, tree knocks, And

713
00:37:07.559 --> 00:37:10.480
she's actually got photographs of those things that are how

714
00:37:10.480 --> 00:37:13.000
most bigfoot photos are. They're grainy and they're from a

715
00:37:13.079 --> 00:37:19.960
long distance, but there are black forms standing behind trees there.

716
00:37:21.000 --> 00:37:23.239
She actually has a photo I have it on my

717
00:37:23.320 --> 00:37:26.840
phone what looks like a dog man in the fork

718
00:37:26.840 --> 00:37:29.280
of a tree staring at her and her husband as

719
00:37:29.320 --> 00:37:34.400
they were walking down a highking trail here in East Tennessee. So, yeah,

720
00:37:34.639 --> 00:37:36.880
I told her, you can have that stuff. I don't

721
00:37:36.920 --> 00:37:39.880
want no part of those things. I don't even want to. Yeah,

722
00:37:39.920 --> 00:37:40.679
that's a whole.

723
00:37:40.440 --> 00:37:43.840
Other dog in the pile out there, So yeah, I don't.

724
00:37:44.239 --> 00:37:45.760
But that's very uneasy for me.

725
00:37:46.239 --> 00:37:48.519
But yeah, it's just there's a lot of people who

726
00:37:49.960 --> 00:37:52.039
they just want to vent and they don't really want

727
00:37:52.039 --> 00:37:54.800
to share the location. They don't they don't trust me

728
00:37:54.920 --> 00:37:57.639
enough to say, come to my house and look around.

729
00:37:58.360 --> 00:38:00.519
And of course, if it happened to you years ago,

730
00:38:00.559 --> 00:38:03.199
why would I want to go look around anyway? If

731
00:38:03.199 --> 00:38:05.719
it was a one time sighting, there's not going to

732
00:38:05.719 --> 00:38:08.400
be anything there. I've always had a little rule that

733
00:38:08.440 --> 00:38:11.440
I keep. If the sighting is more than three days old,

734
00:38:11.719 --> 00:38:14.760
there's no point in me going checking it out, because

735
00:38:15.199 --> 00:38:17.519
if the weather's not right or now. Of course, if

736
00:38:17.519 --> 00:38:20.119
they say, hey, i've got tracks and I'll hit those,

737
00:38:20.159 --> 00:38:21.159
I'll go there for sure.

738
00:38:21.239 --> 00:38:23.119
But it's such a needle in a haystack.

739
00:38:23.639 --> 00:38:26.079
And people go out and they hunt for Bigfoot in

740
00:38:26.119 --> 00:38:28.599
the dark, and they knock on trees and all this stuff,

741
00:38:28.639 --> 00:38:32.400
and I guess that's fine, but I don't think. I

742
00:38:32.440 --> 00:38:35.920
don't think they're really having any success, because I'm one

743
00:38:35.960 --> 00:38:37.719
of those kinds of people that believe if you're in

744
00:38:37.719 --> 00:38:41.320
the woods and bigfoots in the woods, bigfoot news, you're

745
00:38:41.320 --> 00:38:43.400
in the woods long before you ever knew he was,

746
00:38:44.079 --> 00:38:46.480
and he's either playing games with you or he's long

747
00:38:46.559 --> 00:38:47.559
gone one or the other.

748
00:38:47.800 --> 00:38:51.840
Oh, absolutely. I'm quickly. I'm just gonna say I am

749
00:38:51.880 --> 00:38:56.679
one of those people now where pretty much gonna you're

750
00:38:56.679 --> 00:39:00.639
not gonna get it done by knocking on trees doing

751
00:39:00.679 --> 00:39:03.119
the yells, which are fun to do. That's fun to do,

752
00:39:03.199 --> 00:39:06.239
but I think there's more to it where if you

753
00:39:06.440 --> 00:39:09.960
just sit down somewhere and chill out and then just

754
00:39:10.079 --> 00:39:12.360
like you read a book or scroll on your phone

755
00:39:12.400 --> 00:39:16.199
like that, there will probably be stuff happen because they're

756
00:39:16.400 --> 00:39:18.960
curious and they're gonna come over. They'll know that you're there,

757
00:39:19.039 --> 00:39:19.639
they'll find you.

758
00:39:20.400 --> 00:39:23.800
There's even people get out there and their black clothes

759
00:39:23.880 --> 00:39:27.960
and their camo and their gilly suits, and to me,

760
00:39:28.159 --> 00:39:31.480
that's just an insult to them, to the Bigfoot, because,

761
00:39:32.199 --> 00:39:34.840
like I say, they know we're there before we ever

762
00:39:34.920 --> 00:39:38.280
get there. And that's to the point of we know

763
00:39:39.480 --> 00:39:42.000
what's going on around their home usually, and I've heard

764
00:39:42.079 --> 00:39:44.559
somebody I think said this on Merkles. How would you

765
00:39:44.599 --> 00:39:48.440
feel if some random dude came walking through your house

766
00:39:48.480 --> 00:39:51.119
and started making himself at home. You're not going to

767
00:39:51.199 --> 00:39:53.840
be very happy about it. And that's what we're doing.

768
00:39:53.880 --> 00:39:56.199
That's what we're doing. If we just happen upon one

769
00:39:56.239 --> 00:39:58.679
of their places where they kick back and relax or

770
00:39:58.679 --> 00:40:02.159
that's where they're raising their kids or whatever, and we

771
00:40:02.280 --> 00:40:04.440
show up and we're looking around and we're banging on

772
00:40:04.519 --> 00:40:07.960
trees and we're hollering, Yeah, they're going to run.

773
00:40:07.840 --> 00:40:11.119
Us off or worse. So yeah, I don't do that.

774
00:40:11.679 --> 00:40:13.039
I've never really done that.

775
00:40:13.239 --> 00:40:16.199
I just I think it's a waste of my time anyway. Yeah,

776
00:40:16.239 --> 00:40:17.920
I'm not out there to have fun doing it.

777
00:40:17.960 --> 00:40:20.920
So exactly, I think a lot of it has to

778
00:40:20.920 --> 00:40:24.280
do with the intention of the person when they're going

779
00:40:24.320 --> 00:40:24.760
out too.

780
00:40:25.079 --> 00:40:25.679
If they're.

781
00:40:27.280 --> 00:40:30.480
You know, I mean, if they're in it with a

782
00:40:30.480 --> 00:40:34.119
good heart as opposed to their going out and they

783
00:40:34.199 --> 00:40:37.519
just want to become famous or bag a big foot,

784
00:40:38.119 --> 00:40:40.599
that's that's going to come across somehow. I think.

785
00:40:40.719 --> 00:40:43.559
Yeah, I think there's an I don't think. I know.

786
00:40:43.639 --> 00:40:45.239
They can get into our heads.

787
00:40:45.480 --> 00:40:49.280
And maybe they know what we're thinking, they know what

788
00:40:49.320 --> 00:40:53.840
we're packing. If they're and if they don't want to

789
00:40:53.880 --> 00:40:55.760
have anything to do with us, they won't. But if

790
00:40:55.800 --> 00:40:59.679
they feel threatened, they're going to threaten back. But yeah,

791
00:40:59.760 --> 00:41:02.559
I think they know these things. They know our intentions

792
00:41:03.360 --> 00:41:05.559
by the way we act and how we present ourselves

793
00:41:05.639 --> 00:41:08.320
to them. It's funny that I say this, and I

794
00:41:08.400 --> 00:41:10.840
have said this before, and I think I wrote it down.

795
00:41:12.159 --> 00:41:14.480
There's a respect that I think we need to have

796
00:41:14.599 --> 00:41:17.519
for them, even though we don't really know who or

797
00:41:17.519 --> 00:41:18.199
what they are.

798
00:41:19.000 --> 00:41:21.079
They may be bad, they may be good.

799
00:41:21.199 --> 00:41:24.280
I've heard stories where people have said they're just like people.

800
00:41:24.320 --> 00:41:27.119
There's good ones and bad ones, and that's probably more

801
00:41:27.119 --> 00:41:30.280
of the truth than anything. But we just need to

802
00:41:30.320 --> 00:41:34.239
respect them for who or what they are, because personally,

803
00:41:34.239 --> 00:41:34.760
I think.

804
00:41:34.599 --> 00:41:37.079
In the long run, they may be smarter than we are.

805
00:41:37.599 --> 00:41:39.679
You think of anything ten foot tall that can hide

806
00:41:40.239 --> 00:41:45.159
on the planet for millennia and science don't even have

807
00:41:45.199 --> 00:41:45.639
a clue.

808
00:41:45.679 --> 00:41:48.719
They refuse to accept it. And there's got to be.

809
00:41:48.679 --> 00:41:52.559
Something to that unless science is lying to us, which

810
00:41:52.599 --> 00:41:53.760
could very well be the case.

811
00:41:55.159 --> 00:41:57.119
Oh, that could probably never happen.

812
00:41:56.920 --> 00:41:59.519
Right, Yeah, we can trust big brothers.

813
00:42:00.239 --> 00:42:03.280
Yeah, we'll see. Who knows what will happen next twenty

814
00:42:03.440 --> 00:42:06.679
twenty five years? My goodness, I hope something cool does happen,

815
00:42:06.719 --> 00:42:09.480
you know. Let the UFO people have their day and

816
00:42:09.519 --> 00:42:14.519
then it's time to release some bigfoot stuff, that's right, Yeah, Yeah,

817
00:42:14.840 --> 00:42:15.280
who knows.

818
00:42:15.360 --> 00:42:16.559
Maybe it all happened at once.

819
00:42:17.239 --> 00:42:19.800
Maybe the UFOs will land in, the bigfoot will come out.

820
00:42:19.880 --> 00:42:20.559
So that.

821
00:42:23.960 --> 00:42:27.360
One other question for you. If there's people listening to

822
00:42:27.440 --> 00:42:29.440
this and they're like, oh man, yeah, East Tennessee, that

823
00:42:29.440 --> 00:42:31.400
would be cool. I'm just going to go down there

824
00:42:31.480 --> 00:42:35.039
and make the weekend trip and go bigfooting down there

825
00:42:35.039 --> 00:42:38.480
in East Tennessee. Is that possible or smart to do?

826
00:42:38.760 --> 00:42:41.039
Or how prepared do you need to be if you're

827
00:42:41.039 --> 00:42:43.760
going to go out into the woods of East Tennessee

828
00:42:43.920 --> 00:42:45.239
to look for bigfoot?

829
00:42:50.199 --> 00:42:51.880
I guess no more.

830
00:42:53.159 --> 00:42:54.840
No more prepared than if you were going to go

831
00:42:54.920 --> 00:42:58.280
on a hawk or an overnight camping trip something like that.

832
00:42:58.400 --> 00:43:00.679
I don't see any reason why it would be any different.

833
00:43:00.800 --> 00:43:01.480
I carry.

834
00:43:02.079 --> 00:43:05.760
I always carry anywhere I legally carry. I carry, and

835
00:43:05.800 --> 00:43:06.840
it's not for bigfoot.

836
00:43:06.920 --> 00:43:09.079
It's for people.

837
00:43:09.760 --> 00:43:12.400
If somebody's trying to hurt me or my family, or

838
00:43:12.599 --> 00:43:14.719
there's a lot of coyotes in Tennessee, they.

839
00:43:14.599 --> 00:43:16.360
Sometimes can come after you there.

840
00:43:16.840 --> 00:43:19.599
There are wild boars out here, and they can put

841
00:43:19.639 --> 00:43:22.440
a good hurt on you and probably kill you. Yeah.

842
00:43:22.519 --> 00:43:25.920
I would definitely go with an intention to protect myself

843
00:43:26.320 --> 00:43:29.760
and protect my family. But other than that, I don't

844
00:43:29.800 --> 00:43:32.599
think it would be I don't think it would be

845
00:43:32.639 --> 00:43:35.599
wise to do anything different than that, other than just

846
00:43:35.679 --> 00:43:38.719
what I mentioned and the whole concept of where would

847
00:43:38.719 --> 00:43:41.280
they go in Tennessee or in East Tennessee. Just about

848
00:43:41.320 --> 00:43:45.039
any state park you can mention. There have been reports

849
00:43:45.079 --> 00:43:47.599
out of all of these state parks around here, and

850
00:43:47.639 --> 00:43:50.679
of course I've had reports sent to me from Smoky's

851
00:43:50.840 --> 00:43:55.679
so yeah, I mean it's they're around and you really

852
00:43:55.719 --> 00:43:58.679
don't have to go far. I mean, you've got there's

853
00:43:58.719 --> 00:44:03.199
a Frozen Head State Park in Morgan County. There's there's

854
00:44:03.239 --> 00:44:06.880
a Cherokee National Forest down on the lower end of

855
00:44:06.880 --> 00:44:09.159
the Smoky Mountains that's in Tennessee.

856
00:44:10.280 --> 00:44:11.679
A lot of stuff going on there.

857
00:44:11.719 --> 00:44:15.159
There's a I think it's a Panther State Park up

858
00:44:15.199 --> 00:44:19.519
around Morristown, Tennessee that's had some activity. And then of

859
00:44:19.519 --> 00:44:22.639
course there are other ones out there too, some of

860
00:44:22.639 --> 00:44:26.360
them more well known than others where things are going on. Again,

861
00:44:26.719 --> 00:44:28.519
a needle in a haystack, you just have to be

862
00:44:28.519 --> 00:44:31.320
at the right place at the right time. I don't

863
00:44:32.039 --> 00:44:36.079
maybe it's random, maybe it's not, but I can't imagine

864
00:44:36.239 --> 00:44:38.639
most people as many people that are out in the

865
00:44:38.679 --> 00:44:41.639
woods these days, most people aren't going to have any

866
00:44:41.719 --> 00:44:42.840
kind of encounter.

867
00:44:42.719 --> 00:44:45.719
Because they're just so few and far between.

868
00:44:46.320 --> 00:44:50.000
It's definitely something to think about. Yeah, I echo what

869
00:44:50.039 --> 00:44:54.239
you say. Pretty much every state park or forest in

870
00:44:54.360 --> 00:44:58.599
Tennessee has had something happen it is it is pretty wild.

871
00:44:59.599 --> 00:45:01.199
That's an interesting concept too.

872
00:45:01.239 --> 00:45:04.400
I've heard people talk about how that national parks and

873
00:45:04.480 --> 00:45:07.880
state parks and military bases and all these places that

874
00:45:08.000 --> 00:45:11.119
are run by the government at this point. People have

875
00:45:11.199 --> 00:45:14.639
said there was some sort of something happened in these

876
00:45:14.679 --> 00:45:17.719
places before they came national parks and state parks and

877
00:45:17.760 --> 00:45:21.760
military bases, and we had to cordon these places off

878
00:45:21.800 --> 00:45:26.280
to keep people out or to control people's movements. Within

879
00:45:26.880 --> 00:45:30.039
the Smoky Mountain National Park, you can take pictures, but

880
00:45:30.119 --> 00:45:34.239
you can't take video, and you can't fly drones. You

881
00:45:34.360 --> 00:45:39.960
can take you can't take video without a permit from

882
00:45:40.440 --> 00:45:42.719
the people up there that run the place.

883
00:45:43.039 --> 00:45:44.880
What are they called the park.

884
00:45:44.719 --> 00:45:48.599
Rangers, those guys in the US Park Ranger Service. Yeah,

885
00:45:48.639 --> 00:45:52.360
you can't fly drones and you can't take video, so

886
00:45:53.159 --> 00:45:56.639
you definitely can't do with drones. And a good friend

887
00:45:56.679 --> 00:46:00.320
told me that you can't do video. Only photographs video.

888
00:46:00.840 --> 00:46:04.159
Let me take that back personal video with your camcorder

889
00:46:04.280 --> 00:46:05.159
or your cell phone.

890
00:46:05.840 --> 00:46:06.559
That's okay.

891
00:46:07.119 --> 00:46:10.039
But if you wanted to make a documentary or if

892
00:46:10.039 --> 00:46:12.679
you wanted to do something like that, gotcha in a

893
00:46:12.679 --> 00:46:15.079
professional manner, you can't.

894
00:46:15.400 --> 00:46:18.719
Okay, you can do it, So I'm sorry. Ikinly got

895
00:46:18.719 --> 00:46:19.480
off the base there.

896
00:46:19.599 --> 00:46:24.159
Oh you're good. That makes sense. Yeah, that makes sense, man, Matt.

897
00:46:24.199 --> 00:46:27.480
It has been fun chatting with you today, and it's

898
00:46:27.920 --> 00:46:30.679
crazy to say we're almost we all it's been going

899
00:46:30.719 --> 00:46:34.039
in an hour already. But did you have any closing

900
00:46:34.280 --> 00:46:37.400
in thoughts or if people want to reach out to

901
00:46:37.440 --> 00:46:41.440
you about East Tennessee maybe they have something to share.

902
00:46:41.719 --> 00:46:43.280
Is there a way that they can reach out to

903
00:46:43.320 --> 00:46:43.840
you as well?

904
00:46:45.159 --> 00:46:48.559
Yeah, I'm easily. I can be easily found on Facebook.

905
00:46:49.039 --> 00:46:51.920
That is my main area of where I try to

906
00:46:51.960 --> 00:46:55.079
communicate what little I actually get to communicate to people

907
00:46:55.079 --> 00:46:58.280
that just top in East Tennessee Bigfoot on Facebook. There

908
00:46:58.360 --> 00:47:01.719
is a WWD beat out East Tennessee Bigfoot dot org.

909
00:47:01.840 --> 00:47:05.000
It is a website, but it's basically just a segue

910
00:47:05.159 --> 00:47:07.800
into the Facebook page. I don't keep it up, I

911
00:47:07.800 --> 00:47:10.000
don't keep it constantly and change.

912
00:47:10.320 --> 00:47:11.119
I leave it alone.

913
00:47:11.639 --> 00:47:13.320
And then, of course, if you want to email me

914
00:47:13.480 --> 00:47:16.239
it's East Tennessee Bigfoot at Yahoo dot com.

915
00:47:16.880 --> 00:47:18.239
I'll converse with anybody.

916
00:47:18.679 --> 00:47:22.079
I can tell now at this point how crazy some

917
00:47:22.199 --> 00:47:23.119
of the stories are.

918
00:47:23.119 --> 00:47:25.719
But if I've heard the type of story before, I'm

919
00:47:25.719 --> 00:47:27.639
going to I'm going to lean into it a little bit.

920
00:47:27.719 --> 00:47:31.199
But I've had some I've had some jokesures, and that's

921
00:47:31.239 --> 00:47:31.800
okay too.

922
00:47:31.840 --> 00:47:32.280
It's fun.

923
00:47:32.639 --> 00:47:35.559
A lot of younger people like to do that. But yeah,

924
00:47:35.559 --> 00:47:38.039
it's all good if you. If anybody wants to contact me,

925
00:47:38.079 --> 00:47:39.280
they're more than welcome.

926
00:47:38.960 --> 00:47:43.559
To Awesome and is the best what's the best way

927
00:47:43.679 --> 00:47:46.400
to get a hold of your book? Would it be

928
00:47:46.679 --> 00:47:47.760
getting it through Amazon?

929
00:47:47.920 --> 00:47:50.920
Or that would be the quickest way.

930
00:47:51.039 --> 00:47:53.960
You just actually either type in the name of the book,

931
00:47:54.920 --> 00:47:58.159
Bigfoot Perspectives from the Foothills of Tennessee, or just type

932
00:47:58.199 --> 00:48:02.239
in my name Matt Sieber s e Ber and that's

933
00:48:02.280 --> 00:48:05.039
the only thing that's got my name on it on Amazon.

934
00:48:04.719 --> 00:48:07.800
So it'll take you out to it there go. Yeah,

935
00:48:07.840 --> 00:48:11.199
I appreciate people day taking to read. I tried to make.

936
00:48:11.079 --> 00:48:14.679
The book something that everybody could enjoy, not really pushing

937
00:48:14.679 --> 00:48:17.599
any kind of ideas down their throat, just giving them

938
00:48:17.639 --> 00:48:20.800
some ideas, some options, some opinions of some of the

939
00:48:20.800 --> 00:48:22.719
things that I've learned, some of the things that people

940
00:48:22.760 --> 00:48:25.440
have told me over the years, and how I've tried

941
00:48:25.480 --> 00:48:28.679
to put together these different scenarios and different ideas.

942
00:48:28.320 --> 00:48:30.880
About who are what they are. And I had fun.

943
00:48:31.400 --> 00:48:32.880
It was fun. Of course it.

944
00:48:32.880 --> 00:48:36.039
Brought back some memories of my childhood as well. So yeah,

945
00:48:36.079 --> 00:48:37.239
I hope people enjoy it.

946
00:48:38.039 --> 00:48:40.760
Yeah, it's an easy read and some good stories in there,

947
00:48:40.760 --> 00:48:43.360
and I definitely recommend people will check it out. I'll

948
00:48:43.400 --> 00:48:47.239
have the link to that in the show notes, so

949
00:48:47.280 --> 00:48:50.159
people can go down there and check that out. But Matt,

950
00:48:50.280 --> 00:48:52.559
is a pleasure chatting with you tonight, and thank you

951
00:48:52.599 --> 00:48:53.840
so much for coming on the show.

952
00:48:54.880 --> 00:48:56.840
Thank you, Jeremiah. It was a pleasure for here.

953
00:48:57.559 --> 00:48:59.960
You're a big for society art cool is to provide

954
00:49:00.239 --> 00:49:04.360
a platform for those that have encountered Bigfoot to share

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their encounter in a safe and respected environment. But we

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need to hear your story. If you've experienced something that

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you just can't explain, please send me an email at

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bigfoot Soociety at gmail dot com then we can start

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the conversation. I know a lot of you have not

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shared your encounter at all. It's been twenty years, and

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it's time that you get this off your chest and

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then you can get some well deserved for rest, Because

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I know you haven't been sleeping. I understand what you're

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going through, and I appreciate every one of you listening.

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You're listening to Bigfoot Society podcasts hosted by our Captain

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jer Amaya Byron. Whereas all Bigfoot, all the time. Have

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you ever had the urge to do more? To be more?

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Now?

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You can by joining Bigfoot Society on the Patriot get

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These are all in Oregon. By the way, Oakridge, Dexter

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Fall Creek, to Shoot National Forest Area, Cultist Lake, Spirit Lake,

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Subtle Lake, Mackenzie River Area, Sweet Home Area, the area

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west of Crater Lake, east of two thirty West Diamond

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Lake Highway, and north of sixty two Creater Lake Highway,

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Please take a minute to help out the show by

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that you're subscribed, share the show with a friend. Really,

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Wherever you can. If you've had a Bigfoot encounter related

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to the following, or know someone who has, please reach

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out to me at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com

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or pass on my email. Here's the list. If you've

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had any encounters in Oregon, which I'm sure there's probably

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a few of you out there, please feel free to

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reach out immediately. You can use email Bigfoot Society at

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Bigfoot Society, Patreon and YouTube channel members. It's your support

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that helps keep the show going and I extremely appreciate it.

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join over at Patreon dot com forward slash the Bigfoot Society.

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I'll see you there and again, thanks for listening.