Terrifying Loon Lake & Bumping Lake Bigfoot Encounters | Real Idaho & Washington Sightings

0:00 You're listening to bigflet Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring you first hand encounters from people who say they've seen something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere, and each one leaves us with more questions than answers. These are the voices of the people who've lived it. To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that just might change the way you see the woods forever. So stay with us, all right, pick the Society. You've got the privilege of talking to Rob today. Rob is an individual that I got connected to over on Facebook and he's been through some really interesting things. We're going to hear about some experiences that he's had tonight. He's been a researcher since two thousand and four, and we might hear later about how he was on the show finding Bigfoot as well, and maybe even some expeditions that he's been on. But Rob, welcome to the show. How are you doing today, sir?

1:01 I'm doing great here. What I am doing great? Fantastic. I've lived in Idaho for a number of years. I moved here in nineteen seventy six and I've lived here since. But we moved from Beaverton, which is from Beaverton's over by the Portland area. It's like a suburb of Portland. And I remember hearing about a little bit of tidbits about Bigfoot over there, and I think I remember going to Bigfoot movie, like an old one, and so it was. I don't know if that's where the seed got planted or what. But I was very young when we were in Oregon. I was six by the time we I turned six at someone when we moved here, So I was pretty.

1:47 Young, gotcha. And as you're going along and starting to get more into the subject, was there a experience that you had that really set things off. Maybe you're out in the woods and see something or hear something that really affected you. So my first real experience was when I so I went to a BFRO like the other expeditions, I think that was two thousand and six when I went to my first one, and so we didn't have sighting or anything like that, but I know on that trip some of the there was a few guys that I guess got to diet a cast with blasphar paris and we had some movement up in the trees and we could see it whatever it was swinging in the trees. We could see it on the therm and it was just almost it was just checking us out, watching us. And so that was my first experience with that. And then after I got home, I was just continuing to do research on my own or with my friend.

3:05 I hiked up a little there's up in the foothills, there's these little areas that you can hike into and I found like a deer kill and I. Don't know what it was that killed it. If it was, it could have been a person, obviously, but it was very unusual. Front legs were missing, no head and had the twisting motion on a vertebrae, which I thought was unusual. No hide, it was hide was totally stripped, and also what was left of the hide, there was like pieces of the hide like in a circle around this deer kill. It was just really weird pieces of fur or whatever you want to call it, hair around the dierk kill.

3:51 And I just thought that was a person didn't do that. I can't think of anybody else and no animal that I know could have done that. And that was the next step. And I sent some of that stuff to a lot of Williams and asked her what about it because I sent her some pictures and it was just inconclusive. And then from there was my experience Loon Lake, which is up by mycall. Me and a friend had quite a hear recent experience of Loon Lake, and it was we ended up spending the night out there. We weren't going to spend the night. We were trying to hike in and out on the same day, but it's about a five mile hike and if you don't, if you don't get busy and keep a pretty good pace, you could end up getting stuck out there. So that's what happened on that hike. So we got stuck out there, ended up spending the night, ended up seeing something that I had know answer for, and we saw yellow eyeshine, and we always felt like we were being tracked, which I thought was unusual. I've never gotten that feeling before, but we definitely had that feeling that night, and my friend thought he when he looked out in the woods, we were on the trail right like a four wheeler trail that we were following, and we were following the

5:24 trail and he thought he saw something jump brow a log, he said, And yeah, that experience was pretty wild. We also, in the middle of the night heard what we thought was a siren, which I've heard this sink and make all kinds of noise and do all different kinds of things. And I didn't know what to think at the time. If I could have got out of there, I would have. But we're talking in the middle of the night, like eleven o'clock, eleven PM something like that. You know, it was just pitch black and you just heard this sounded exactly like a siren on the middle of the forest, and we're just looking at each other, like, what in the what was that? And so by the time we got out of there, it was morning, and we could hear these calls high up like probably I'm going to guess it was My phone was dead, so I couldn't even look at my phone and see what time it was and then I will watch them, but we couldn't hear or higher up, we could hear something sounded sounded like it was calling, And I said to my friend I'm like, what is this that and he goes, I don't know, the kid's clean, and I'm like, I don't know, man, it's six in the morning. Kids are going to be playing up on a hillside somewhere. It sounds pretty pretty unlikely to me. And it sounded like you've ever heard

6:55 the Ohio how online. That's similar to what it sounded like was the ohioh but off in the distance. We heard that for a good I don't know, over an hour, for sure, hour and a half, and at the time we were just trying to get out of there. And then it was crazy because my friend and I got separated. And then because I was good, I'd been walking so long, and I took my shoes off, my boots and I just left my boots on because I was afraid I wouldn't get them back on, so I didn't take them off or anything, even at night, and so I just left my boots on, and I told my friend. I was just like, run ahead, get help, do anything, just get just so and get out of here. And so I was trying to stay put, but I was trying to see if I could find where he went, because we ended up going on a different trail out. Then we came in on, which I knew it was huge, no, no, but I didn't want to separate. And finally this guy in a motorcycle pops up and I'm just sitting there because I could hear him coming my way, and he's you, rob, yeah, and he goes, get on, I'll bring you back to camp, and I'm like, what, where's Torri. He goes, don't worry about it. You get on, I'll keep over there, and I'm like, okay. So I hopked on his dirt bike and he brought me back to where his camp was,

8:25 and it was we're a good few miles away from the car even when his camp, so he set us back pretty far. But luckily he brought us back to my car. And yeah, it was her recent night. Nothing I've ever experienced for sure. Wow, that's extremely lucky for you guys. At the end. So this is like an alpine lake about sixty five hundred feet up. It looks like when I look it. Up, yeah Lin Lake. Yeah okay, And there's an old plane wreck back there from like World War two, and those guys had to pack it was pretty wild. We went and looked at it and everything, and that the wreckage of plane is still there, but they took all the electronics and everything out. Yeah, it was something to remember for sure. And yeah, once we got out of there, I was just like I always was happy to be out of there finally.

9:19 Yeah, I don't blame yet. What year was this again? Yeah, so when that happened. I believe that was two thousand and nine. I want to say, yeah, I think it's two thousand and. Nine, gotcha, I believe. So you said you saw some yellow eyeshine. How high up was that eyeshine? Would you approximate? Yeah? And it was really weird. It was the eye shine wasn't very high. It was like maybe four to six inches off the ground, and they were almost like orbs, lowly lit yellow. The weird thing is it was only maybe fifteen to twenty feet from us at the most.

10:07 And I'm just I was just sitting there with my mouth open and going, what in the heck it's going on here? But we didn't like the next morning and we checked for tracks. We didn't see tracks. We didn't see any There's nothing there. Granted it's hard ground, but we're something that big. You would have thought it would have left some kind of a lark and we could not find nothing. And it was only the next day when I really thought when we heard those calls, I was like, that's definitely something I've definitely heard that online before. And then we just the whole experience and like this find it hard to be hoaxed. I didn't find it hard that somebody hoaxed us. Oh sure for me, Yeah, I didn't tell anybody I was even going up there in my parents and I don't know about Toria, and I don't think he told anybody either, So that was, Yeah, that was our har reason experience because I did not expect it. We didn't have a sleeping bag, we had nothing to stay warm. Granted it was in July, and luckily I had my pack and started like a little fire and gathered up some wood and so we did that.

11:27 At least we had something, but still get pretty chilly there even in July. And no shelter up there. It sounds like you did you shelter, figure out something with that yourself, then put some boughs together or something. Yeah, we didn't even we since we were since he and I were like wondering what the heck, it's going on here. We basically took turns tending the fire and watching it, and took turns sleeping, and then we just went back and forth through the night when I didn't get much sleep at all because close my eyes and all I could do is picture this hulking figure watching us, So that's all I could see when I tried to sleep, So I didn't needless say I didn't get much sleep.

12:18 And yeah, so that was basically what we're doing, just going back and forth trying to make sure the fire was going. Absolutely. Yeah, And so was this experience would you say it was the time when you were pushed way past one hundred percent, Yeah, there's something out there or had you already gotten to that point in the BFRO expedition a few years prior. Yeah, I was by that time once I had the BFRO experience with the track casts and things like that, and hearing other people's stories and coming across There was even a couple of people that were like habituators, which means they knew somebody or they had experience with one that was ongoing where there was almost like a relationship where they saw it often and so hearing stuff like that really piqued my curiosity. But once we had this experience, I was like, Okay, this toss for real. There's no question having all the yeah, having all the experience, I was just like, there's no way this got to be the real deal. And that was my first BFRO we had.

13:35 So you had connections with individuals that had a habituation going on. Yeah. When I went to that BFRO expedition, people share stories and went back and forth, and you get a lot of people asking you what your experience is with this and that, And I had any experience out of my first time. So I was trying to get my feet with trying to figure out how to research this and how to get out there and do it on my own. So once I did that, then I did a few of those and then I'm like, Okay, I think I can I can grasp this to where I can go out and do it and me have at least one other person. And because I used to go to Loon Lake by myself and nothing happened, I would always go to Loon Lake always because on the BFRO website was one of the areas where there was activity.

14:38 So I'm like, man five mile hike. But I think I can do it because I hike. I hike enough, I can definitely do five miles. But I was always going by myself, so one time I take somebody with me end up having this crazy experience. So, yeah, that. First expedition you went on, was that in Washington then? Yeah, that one was. So the first one was in they called Bumping Lake. Oh sure, Yeah, if you were a bumping lake. This s known for activity. Bumping Lake. You go outside of Yakvon and then you just keep going and it gets to really a remote area kind of how the lake is. Get outside of town and it's really remote out there.

15:23 Yeah, gotcha. So two thousand and six Bumping Lake, which is a location that's really well known in the community. Now for sure a lot of people I know about that area. I don't know if it was still the same back then, but we definitely. Had stuff going on just we had We definitely had something going on with it. We thought it was an owl, right, So it was weird though, because it was like, if one's an owl, there's something that's answering that that doesn't sound like an owl to me. That was the only thing I was trying to figure out. It was almost like it was something that was trying to draw the owl in and so for me that was had a question mark that ire like, I didn't feel like whatever I was answering owl was the same thing, Okay, and yeah it was. That's what made it interesting for me.

16:19 And then seeing the figure in the trees and he was swaying between two trees just watching us, and I'm like, wow, this is pretty cool because I didn't have any experience at all. Also, I was just like the experience I can get. Great thing that is, that's really cool. So when you were hearing that callback, when the owl would make the noise and you would hear something else, was it because it was then too loud a noise that it threw you off or. Yeah, so yeah, I don't know. It was almost like it was like we would hear an owl in the hornell or whatever they thought it was, and then I'm like, I'd listen to it because They're like, yeah, that's what a hornell sounds like, and then I'm like, okay, I hear it on one end. But then whatever was calling back, it was like it was similar and the tone was about the same, but it seemed like it was a little bit off, like not quite the same as a al I didn't think, so there was a big question mark there still what that really was that? And it was weird. I got a low humming there too, a low kind of like a vibration like something I could really feel. I could even hear it, but some people just felt it. But it was it was really interesting area,

17:51 really interesting. Okay over there, so that's extremely interesting. So you were hearing a low hum. Noise, Yeah, a low hum noise, and it was like, gosh, I don't know how to describe it. It was. I mean it was even. It was an even sound, but it was almost so low that not everybody could hear it or feel it. Okay, only some people could. That's really interesting. Yeah, some couldn't. And it was it was a wild like when you get a ringing in your ear and you can't get rid of it. I've ever had that, Yeah, when you get a ringing in your earside? Why is it doing that? I've had that happen before. That's how this was. Like. I didn't know how to get away from it because it was like it was to where I could hear it and I could feel it, and it's got This is so wild because I've never had that experience anywhere I've ever.

18:47 Been, absolutely, And so were you feeling it that most people say like they feel it in their chest or were you feeling it a certain way? Then yeah, I could feel it. It seemed like it was right on the round level at my feet and it was like a to me, it just felt like a low vibration and then it was like a home like the home as song, and then it was just even and it was just really wild. I don't know how I described that because I've never had that anywhere else but there. That is really interesting to hear that brought up almost this is almost twenty years ago. We're talking about it right now. People are really looking into that hum noise.

19:34 It's being recorded all over the US in different spots, and I tried and his guys are really looking into it. So it's cool to hear you talk about it in a situation that's almost twenty years back. Do you remember who the leader of that expedition was. I do. His name is Kevin Jones. Okay, Kevin was there. Yeah, he was there for that one, and he was there for that I went on another one in Northern Idaho. He led that one as well. That's awesome him. And yeah, Kevin Jones and then Mike Pierres was a guy that and I became friends through the second one.

20:18 He's from Spokan. Gotcha. So the second expedition was that after the situation that happened in Loon Lake then in two thousand and nine. Yeah, so that was man. I would have to look up their jock year. But I think it was like twenty fifteen or twenty sixteen when I did that, and it was just kind of like it was a thing because because I had a whole group of us and the guy in the group asking would you consider doing this? And because they had one in Poketello one time in Eastern Idaho and he's been Brandon tennant, they wanted to have him go out with them, and I guess it just didn't work out because he's getting married and we had a lot of stuff on in his life. So he backed out and then he handed it to another Rob, Rob that I know, Rob Fields. Well Rob that Rob turned down, and then that Rob gave him my name.

21:27 So then I'm like, something down, I'll do it. Oh, so they were leading it then. That I was leading my own group. Yeah, wow, but I wasn't. Yeah, I wasn't leading my own I wasn't leading. I wasn't leading the bo far O stuff. But yeah, I was leading my own group and we'd go out and we'd do stuff and see if we could get anything recorded or things answered. Because when in the beginning, it was just me and Tory in two thousand and four, and then once I started doing it, I did my page in my Northwest Bigfoot page, then it just started growing people. Yeah, people started joining up, and people were more interested in going out and seeing what they could dig up. And I'm like, okay, great, I'm down, because that was the all reason I started the page is to meet more people that would want to go out and do it.

22:27 Interesting. So in this either twenty fifteen or twenty sixteen, do you remember, were there any interesting things that happened in the Northern Idaho expedition? Oh? Yeah, okay, that one, Yeah, that one. That one was pretty interesting. The funny thing about Northern Io is they have a lot of stuff going on out there, but they don't get recognized as much for some reason. But I did have I didn't have any sightings on that one either, but we did have activity. We did calls and the minute we did the calls, coyotes or we when we did the calls, we were getting answer to the calls because we were doing uther speaker, so we got to get a call back. The minute that call would start up, the coyotes would just go off and then you couldn't hear anything, like the coyotes were so loud that you couldn't hear anything with coyotes. And then we did the night drive one night and we went out. We had a we were actually in Coven' jeep and we had a we had a let's see, we had a camera up on top of this car, so one was poaning up and then I was holding the one was pointing back to see if something would pop out of the bush. And on that night we

23:59 did the night walkuck. And when we did a night walk, I was sitting down and Mike was letting me use this. They call it bionic ear. So with that ear, you can hear a circumference of I don't know how many feet of probably at least a couple hundred feet all the way around you. And when I did that. I was just sitting there in the chair and you can hear. It's so sensitive. You can hear something that's is little is just like somebody shuffling their feet and just walking around.

24:39 So I'm trying to tell everybody just you still off for just like a couple of minutes or something, because I think I'm getting something here. And I recorded what they call samurai chatter, and that's supposedly supposed to be like the way that they talk. They call it samurai chatter. And it was funny when he played it back, it almost sounded like Scooby Doo because he did like a little funny laugh almost, and it was really really wild, sounded like gibberish, and then it was almost like he did this giggle and that was super cool. That was really cool, and he played it for the group and everything the next day, so that was pretty awesome.

25:25 So your buddy got that recorded. It's not something that you recorded. Though, no, because I used his equipment and I've always wanted to get that sound by of that of just like five or six seconds or whatever it is, because I'd been using it for about an hour. But that was the one little tidbit I got. And then also my buddy the next day asked me. He was like, he thought we were He thought I was playing a joke on him. He was like, were you missing with me last day? And I'm like, no, why what's going on?

26:07 He goes, because something was pressing up against my tent and he goes, it was almost like a face. And he goes, I thought for sure it was you, And I go, no, man, it was not me. I was freaking out, So it definitely was not me, you know that. And he said it was like a face pressing itself against tent. Oh really, so he can see like that, he could. See like the outline of a face on the from from the inside of it. So he told me, And I'm like, I don't know what to tell you, but it was not me for sure. And I've heard different things, like I've heard like my friend said he did an eminem thing and he set out eminem's in a certain order, and then he said, like in the morning, like Eminem's were still there, but they're rearranged in different order. So there's definitely stuff going on. I don't know how they communicate, but I think that's I think that could be a way that they communicate. I just I have figured it out.

27:24 Yeah, I mean, there are definitely a lot of really interesting experiments that people have tried to try to get communication going. I think that would definitely be a version of it. Sometimes. Man, there's one guy where he would leave a piece of paper in a pen out and then see if they would write something back, tic tac toe, all sorts of things. I think that was Kawani who did that in one of his books. But so I've talked to people in northern Idaho Kellogg things like that. You're saying northern Idaho though, is what right? Okay? So yeah, so we were I say northern I it wasn't all way up there. It was I believe it was between Lewiston and Moscow. So I guess there's a lot of action on the clear water. That's what they're telling me on VO f r O. When I did Finding big fights a vf r O people, But they were telling me that they get a lot of action on the clear water.

28:31 That's cool, that's all. We did go up there a couple of times, gotcha. So when you were involved with finding Bigfoot, then was that Idaho based. That was also Idaho based. We so we went to we all meant Courteline, which is that's almost the top, not quite, but it's up there. So we all met Courteline, and then from Courteline we just zipped out up and down, just went like all over the place because I had met when Tyler called me Tyler Balance, he called me and asked me if I wanted to be do some stuff for the show. He met me and McAll and the call for me is to an hour hour drives, so I think he was only a few hours north of there or so, so it was pop away from both of us. And then we just get a little night thing. He wanted to see if he could get any activity of it. We didn't get nothing. And then in the next month or so, that's where we met up in Courtlane, and I think I was there for four or five days something like that and did a lot of driving and stuff like that. And I was in the clip where they're outside of the casino. I was in that scene. Somebody I guess saw one in

30:04 the back of the casino up there Cliff Courtlane. I was in that scene. And then I think I was in one other scene. But yeah, I did a lot of driving, for sure. That's cool. So you were going out with Tyler before the show started filming to try to drum up activity. Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, and come to find out Tyler was Come to find out Tyler was on that BRFRORO versu Bfroro expedition I went on. I guess he was there, but I didn't know Tyler at the time. Yeah he was.

30:48 He's at California Camp. I didn't know him at the time, but yeah, that's where he stayed. So it was cool to find that out and that from there I meet Cliff and everybody in that so it was cool. Oh. Sure. So you have these really cool experiences being involved with a few BFR expeditions and finding Bigfoot, but you're also going out a lot on your own. Was there ever a time where you felt like maybe you were able to get a sighting or something in close proximity outside of what you saw on the first BFL expedition.

31:30 I did have another experience, that's the thing. I had another encounter in the saw Tooth and I went out with the guy that's Travis, he's in the Bigfoot Lives in Idaho book. Doing the series of books that Becky Cook wrote, and he and I did go out and we went to area in the sare is called Redfish Lake right outside of Stanley there, and we don't finely felt like we were being tracked. And it was one of those things for something so big, it doesn't make a ton of noise, but it's enough that you notice it, and then like when you stop, it stops, and then you keep going and then you're hearing it again and you stop and it stops, and so it's really wild.

32:24 But we got when we were We just hiked a couple of miles the first day because the next day it was a really longer hike and harder for sure. But the first night we just hiked a couple of miles into a campspot campground and we saw exactly what looked like a I don't know what to call it. Some people say that's the portal, but it looked like a shining light in the sky and it was only maybe forty feet above our heads. And I was like, do you see that? And he goes, yeah, I see it. I see it. And I'm like, I go, holy crap, what the heck is that? And he's I don't know, and I'm like, I don't know either, and you know that thing. But then all of a sudden, that ball slowly drops into the trees and then just disappears, and I bet with in five minutes you see this figure pop out. It was just on the perimeter, just on the edge of the trees, right at the edge of the campsite. You see this figure, two legs pop out of it goes from one side of the trees to the other, and he flashed green eyes. And if you've ever seen Patterson give one film, there was the form was perfect for that film. Arms way and everything flash

33:56 green eyes at us and thinking, whoa what is that? And the thing it was taller than the first one I saw, slightly hunched back. I could see that a conical head and it has a hunched one of walks and then it just when a flash green eyes. It just kept walking and it just kept cruising. And that was the last we saw it, and then we were up there. When we went up to the lake second night, I got a whoop and then I asked Travis, he goes, no, I didn't hear nothing, and I'm like, what the heck, you didn't hear that because our tents were right together.

34:39 So I'm like, he goes, no, I didn't hear anything, So I'm like, Okay, that's weird. I know I heard something right after getting into my tent and getting ready to go to bed and stuff, and he was and that was all I heard. After that, I think I fell asleep and I didn't hear anymore and that was it for experience. Yeah, wow, that's incredible. What year was that? Would you think. That was? So that was. I'm trying to think of what year that was, how to be twenty seventeen, I believe I was after that was after my finding Bigfoot stuff.

35:29 I think it was seventeen or eighteen. But yeah, I was always trying to do something every summer where I'd go out with somebody or do something or or do you like, campout or whatever. So that was the one I did with him, and yeah, we had that stuff happened and kind of interesting. That same area, there'd been a guy that had disappeared. This guy was by himself though he was solo, and he had disappeared on a hike and I've talked to his mom on the internet, emailed their back and forth because they'd did a book on it. He wasn't from here, but he was. It's that place is like a resort area, like a summer resort where people come in from everywhere and they worked there for the summer and then they do their thing and then they go back to where they came from.

36:23 And this guy was from out of state, and I think he was in an area called Graham Mogul. I think that's where he got. I think that's where they were searching. And lo and behold, they had searched this area. Like the guy that was heading the search and stuff doing the search and rescue for it, he said they had searched a certain area like three or four times and they came back and his stuff, some of his stuff was like laid out on the trail, almost like it was meant to be found. Oh wow, yeah, yeah, it's it's one of those yeah.

37:04 Yeah. So it's one of those where somebody actually disappeared and they could find him. And that was before that was like I think that was about ten years before I did that did that hike. That's why I wanted to go to that area. I was like, Okay, we need to see if we can get over there and figure out what's going on. Okay, after talking to his mom, it looks like. Grand Mogul is a mountain peak that's just outside a red Fish lake. Okay, yeah, gotcha. Interesting. Wow, that is quite quite the encounter you guys had. So was it around dusk or what time of day was it that you had to happen?

37:46 Ours was right around It was right around dusk. It was. It was light enough to where I could see color in the fur and see what color it was. But it was to the point where it was starting to get dark. But I could see clearly sees a light brown color on the fur down to where like it was almost blonde on some of his leg. It was. Yeah, I would say it was dark. The sun wasn't quite behind the mountain, but it was close. Sure. The next day we were able to find any tracks.

38:26 Did you look around over by where it was? We? Yeah, we tried to look around, and we tried to see if we could see anything. Of course, there couldn't find anything, couldn't see anything. It would have been walking grass, but at least you would think you'd see something, something where it was pressed down or something like that. But the way the thing moves is so stealth. It's almost like I've heard different stories on how it moves. Oh, sure, I've heard Yeah, I've heard story where like it was even keeping up with a car and a car it's going fifty miles an hour. Oh Michae, Oh my god, Yeah, I've heard that before. So you mentioned that you experienced the hum out and bumping lake. Do you think you've ever experienced anything that comes close to infrasound when you've been out in these areas.

39:21 That's what crossed my mind, is was I infant sound or was it something else? Since not everybody could hear it and I could also feel it too, I've never experienced anything like that anywhere else that I've ever been, going to the mountains a lot and being a skier and never had that anywhere else ever been too, So yeah, I can't put my finger on what it would have been other than I clearly be felt. It's just funny because. When I originally and I had the experience of that hum and stuff, I was just like, I dismissed it, And then of course Kevin was like, is anyone else experience a home.

40:12 Or feeling anything? And I'm like, no freaking way, So I'm not crazy. Somebody else's experiencing it too, And then come to find out there was a few of us that were having that because I thought I was going crazy. I'm like, what's going on here? I'm thinking I'm imagining it like I was dismissing it. Wow, was there ever a time where you were almost it was like they wanted you to leave an area when you're in on a let's say, research trip, or there was some any kind of aggressive interactions.

40:52 Originally, when I got into this, I wasn't really afraid of going out alone and things like that. It was only later probably watched too much. It's seen four one one stuff I don't know, but I don't go out alone at all anymore. But yeah, I've never had like bluff charge, never had any of that stuff, never had rocks thrown at me. That's pretty I would say that's pretty aggressive behavior if you ask me if you're getting rocks thrown at yet, But I've never had an yet stuff, so i'd have to say no. The only thing I know is like when we saw green Eyes, I've been told they said that means stay away or that means danger from what I was told, yeah, that's somebody was telling me. So I'm like, yeah, I wasn't there trying to approach it. Definitely was quite the deal. It's quite the experience.

41:54 Yeah, Rob is a thing you're still you're still doing today or have you backed off a little bit from going out? I still go out. I haven't. I didn't go out really this summer. I went to Eugene and I was hoping to have I wanted to do more stuff. I did go to Walla with some friends and had a guy interview me because he's got a podcast and he's got a lot of followers, so he did interview me for the McCall one. In a group of us meant Walla for like Paul Freeman, the area where Paul Freeman did some casts singer. He had a lot of sightings stuff in that area. He's forest Ranger. I don't know if you know him, but yeah, that was the first time I'd been to that area. So that was cool to see that.

42:53 Do you remember what podcast that was? For? Jonathan's He's got a name he uses like a handle or whatever, like sas sas q u I, which isn't his real last Name's Jonathan. Yeah, we're easily. Yeah, that's what it is, buddies easily Yeah. Yeah, Okay, that's cool. Yeah yeah, he's cool. Yeah, it's cool. I go to YouTube channel and he goes out and does a lot of stuff with us. It's kind of thing. Editors note Jonathan Easley's YouTube channel is Western Bigfoot Exploration and everyone listening to this should be subscribed to it.

43:35 It is incredible. Back to the show, So were you also going out in Eugene then and looking around places out there? I want? I wanted to Eugene, I didn't. I didn't. There's a girl on my page, Michelle that I guess she's got an active area, and I was hoping her and I could her and I could meet, but it didn't pan out. So I wonder if that was because they got a spot over there. I wonder if that's home. Yeah, we're Sweet Home. Yeah from Sweet Home. Yeah. So I was hoping her and I could do something together. And I'm also friends with Jeff. I don't know if you know if Jeff.

44:18 Ron Yeah, Jeff, Yeah, absolutely. Jeff's really cool guy. He's one in the Flusher beauty. YEP and he knows all about the Oregon Big for Highway, and there's so many places near Eugene, Like I go to east of Eugene when I go out there, I go to oak Ridge and that area, and it's just such a heavily active area. It is wild when you get out in the woods out there, it's interesting stuff. But yeah, hopefully you get out there and you're able to go to some of those places with those guys. Sometimes it's cool out there. But yeah, definitely, Yeah, it's great. It's great. It's it's has a lot of camaraderie. I like that, yeah too, And then it's a good way to connect and it's made a lot of good friends that way. I still talk Cliff once in a while, all that kind of stuff.

45:08 Rob, thank you so much for sharing some of your encounters from over the years. I really appreciate it. And do you mind talking for a few minutes about your your Facebook group you have Northwest Bigfoot and if there's anything okay I would want listeners to know like that. Yeah, so in northwespect for I know people listen to your podcast. So that's what got me interested in your podcast is I'm like, holy cow, McCall, what And then yeah, I was like, oh, that's awesome. And McCall has a lot of history of activity, like even going back to the sixties. Oh wow, really stuff that I even know. Yeah, stuff that I didn't even know about, but a lot of activity. Very Cascade has got some activity too, which is a little bit south of there. And yeah, so that's what got me interested in it. And it's nice to meet more people that might want to go out and if they could take me to the area where they had their experience or that kind of thing, I would love it. That was the whole reason for my page.

46:17 Absolutely. Yeah, so I. Will getting groups together and things like that. It is all about people connecting. And I'll put the link for Northwest Bigfoot in the description so people can check it out if they are interested. But okay, Rob, thank you so much for sharing more with that my listeners about Idaho and also Bumping Lake. And I appreciate you coming on the show today. Yeah, thanks, Jaron, Mine appreciate it. Before we wrap this episode, I want to say something directly to a very specific group of listeners. If you're in the military, any branch or forces, and if you've seen something that no one can explain or if you're a national park raining a forestry worker who's been told to stay quiet, or if you're a pilot who's seen something strange down on the ground, or if you're with the FBI a federal agency, or working intelligence and you stumbled upon something you're not allowed to talk about. And if you're a firefighter, paramedic, or search and rescue responder who's heard screams or found tracks that didn't make sense.

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