Texas Woman Finds Headless Horses in Bigfoot Territory!

0:00 You're listening to Big Flat Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring you first hand encounters from people who say they've seen something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere, and each one leaves us with more questions than answers. These are the. Voices of the people who've lived it. To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that just might change the way you see the woods forever. So stay with us. Hey, Lisa, how are you? I'm good. How are you do? In great? So it sounds like you have an encounter of yours to share.

0:41 Yes, I have an encounter. I'm originally from Texas. I live in New England now, but I lived on the Brass River Bright if you know where Lake Whitney is. I lived in the first house that was on the side of the dam. And I was really young, like nineteen years old. But my husband, he worked in Dallas, so he would leave every morning at like at three o'clock in the morning to go to Dallas to go to work three to four and we lived right on the river and there was dogs out there, and I would go out and sit. And I'd been raised in Texas and lived in different places. But I started hearing things running across the river, and you could hear the thump of the feet, and I just got chills. And after I heard the sound of it running, I heard it climbing up up. Something was climbing up. There was like a big hill, not a mountain, but a big hill.

1:46 And so this went on for like three days, three different times I saw I heard it. I couldn't see it because it's pitch black. But my husband and we decided I had told him about it, and we decided we were going to do some investigating of our own, and so we went. And this area is between Waco and Whitney, and at that time, it's like forty mileels of nothing, just a few farms. And we started walking in the woods and the first thing we noticed that there was no birds or anything making any sound. And we started smelling horrible, horrible smells. And as we were walking, we found a dead horse. And the thing about the horse is it was missing its head. And so we saw the first dead horse. We kept walking. Evidently weren't too smart at that time, but anyway, we kept walking and then there was another dead horse, and at about that time we heard some movement, but it wasn't a movement like what you would think. It was more like a brush of air. And my husband, he's passed it this time, but he was an avid hunter, avid sportsman, and he I've never seen someone so scared in my life.

3:12 I mean we both took off running and we ran and ran and ran. And to make a long story short, we lived there for about a year and I heard this thing several times. Never went back up into those mountains or hills to look for it because it was a terrifying experience. And then I was in Oregon. I tried to go on with you Live a while back, but I was in Oregon. I had cancer and I had surgery in Washington. Then I recovered in Oregon. It's on the coast, and I was staying at my friend's house and right on the ocean, which you know, that's where it was. Walport, Oregon, which has Bigfoot on there their sign local city sign. And my friend, her husband is a firefighter, and they were working some fires and organ and I was covering from surgery. I'd spent five weeks in the hospital and I had one hundred and fifty staples in my leg and I couldn't walk. And I was dog watching their dog and I'm in the woods and the Oregon and they have these windows that I didn't stand, but you couldn't close them. You couldn't close curtains, you couldn't close the blind and something. The dog was just a little like Kickney's dog, a really small dog. She started going crazy and something was running around the house. It was on I didn't it just

4:45 sounded like a person running, but whatever it was, it ran around the house several times. I ended up turning off all the lights, going to the back bedroom and kind of like barricading myself in the room because I'm like, is this the hotown had that area of Waldport is about fifty miles from Corvallis. In that area there, they only had like one state trooper that worked that whole area. And I'm like, there's no one to call. What we're gonna do? And anyway, So that was my experience with Bigfoot, and I really do think that they're real, and I do think that they're inter dimensional because of the sound that I heard in Texas. The.

5:27 Brush of air or rush of air. I don't know how he would say it, but it was real, and it wasn't a sound that I'd ever heard or that I've heard since that It just felt like something was moving, moving in a different area that I wasn't going. And I do believe they're inter dimensional, and I think the vell is lifting, and I think that there will continue to be sightings, and evidently they're pretty aren't creatures, And I don't know what their row is here on Earth. You know, who knows where they come from their nephelin, if they're from that area, that's where they came from, or what started, you know, with the children of the Angels and the things that they became. I don't know if these were spinoffs from that are what happened, But they're definitely not on the same level of this Earth as we are. I think that's just my opinion as far as who knows.

6:37 What they are. It's one of the most interesting topics because there's so many different ways of looking at it. But you know, one thing is for sure, there's something out there that we're at most times not able to see sometimes we are able to see them though for sure. Now in Lake Whitney, Texas, when you saw those two horses were there and you said neither of them had heads. Were they cut off or torn off? Or could you tell? The first horse, I couldn't tell because it was too far gone so far as everything being not being there.

7:26 But the second horse, it looked like I had horses and showed horses from matt Lock Rose out of North Texas. If anyone watches Yellowstone, that's where all the horses and stuff from that show came from North Texas. And the horse's head was ripped off. It wasn't cut, it was jagged. It didn't look like a bite. It looked like a like someone something just ripped the head off. Wow. I mean. You think about it. What kind of things can do that, right?

8:11 I mean, there's not many that come to my mind, some weird stuff. I'm glad you guys got out of there. And yeah, it was a bad feeling and the whole experience ended up us living there on the house. It was just a bad experience and I never want to live in Lake Whitney again. But after this bigfoot thing happened, I was in the house, and you know, I didn't have a car with me, we didn't have a phone. And this was back in nineteen eighty. Five around that area in Texas. Did you ever talk to your any other neighbors that had things going on as well?

8:57 Yes, we did. They're all past way now, you know, the old timers that used to live there and everything, and it's such an area that is so just desolate. It used to have more, you know, it was greener and all that, but now it's just becoming more and more arid and drying. Texas is turning into a desert in some places. But there was a lot of people that I'd seen some things and hard things, but people don't delve into it. And I don't know why, but it's something about it that's almost sacred that you just didn't at that time, we didn't delve into it too much.

9:40 Get aary feeling when I was in the area. I appreciate you coming up and for sharing. Is this a conversation that I would be able to use on my opics of the podcast? I have, sure, it's fine. I don't have any rights or anything over the story, and just it's a crazy woman from Texas, living in New Hampshire now in the mountains again, but haven't seen anything here. But yeah, you can use my story. Thank you, Thank you guys for I'm saying thank you and about the experiences, because I've really never talked to anyone other than like my son's and my close family about it. And the smell was it wasn't a sulfur smell, and I don't know if it was a smell from the horses or if it was a smell from a creature.

10:32 I don't know which one it was. Of course, the horses smelled really bad, but I don't know if it was the horses or if it was the creature. I don't know. But I do know that something was running along that river bank because at night, you know, they would generate through the night and the water would go down really fast. I mean, fish get caught, and you know when the water drops, it goes down really fast. And so there was only a certain time period that would have had a chance to go down onto the river and then get back up into the mountains before the the water came back up. Absolutely, so there was just a small time period here.

11:22 Well, Lisa, I appreciate you coming up. Thank you, You're welcome. Thank you, and you guys have a good night. Hi there, how's it going good? How are you good? Did you have a big fit experience you'd like to share? I did so. Have you ever heard of the Hotel California in Kentucky? Is that by a land between the lakes? It is? Yes. So I was out there with a couple of friends and we heard tree knocking and screams. At first we thought somebody was like messing with us because there was other people.

12:10 In the area. But then later we meet them in the parking lot whenever we're getting ready to leave, and they said that they heard the exact same thing. Now there's been that's the big abandoned building area, right, yes, sir, okay, because there's been other stuff that's happened in the same area, right. Yeah, there was a supposed werewolf attack in the eighties. That's great. Yep, it's the same area. Wow. Wow, So you experienced tree knocking? Was there anything else weird going on at the same time?

12:51 It smelled like two skunks dead. Whenever I was headed by towards the parking lot, towards my car, my friend looked at me, and he said, hey, do you smell that? And I'm like, yeah, it smells like a dead skunker animal or something. And then after the tree knocking, like five minutes later, we just hear the most blood curdling scream. Have you heard of any other recent things that have happened in that area besides the because I believe that the dog man attack was in the eighties, right.

13:37 Yes, as far as I know, yes, there was a dog man attack in the eighties. Is that an area you go to pretty often to check it out? Actually, that was my first time going to the Hotel California. I didn't expect to hear what I thought was a sasquatch at the time. Either I was actually going to take pictures and I was actually going there to spray paint. But I went there to take some pictures too, and then my friends and I started hearing like banging on trees, and at first we just thought it was the other tourists like messing with us, And then we hear the most and then we hear the scream. And then later we relocate to like a because it was starting to get dark, So we go to like a beach and we see like footprints on the beach, like human footprints, but like they were like the size of my foot and my half of my friend's foot put together.

14:40 What would what length? Would you say? That approximately would be. Fourteen if I had to guess, I'd say fourteen to fifteen inches. Gotcha? And you said that that was pretty recent, that that dis experience happened back in June, sir, June of twenty twenty five. Yeah, okay, wow, would you ever go back to that area again after experiencing that? If I'm by myself, no, if I'm with my friends, maybe, Well. I appreciate you you coming out to share what you experiences. It's a conversation I can share in my podcast as well.

15:22 Oh yes, sir. All right, well, well, thank you for coming up. If you ever do experience anything else out there, please feel free to reach out. All right, yes, sir, thank you for your time. Thank you. Good stuff, good stuff. We're going from one side of the US to the other. Guys, Lisa, I just sent your request if you want to share your uncle's story there? Yeah, oh again, okay, Hello, Well, I was born in Gainesville, Texas. I don't know if you guys know where that is. But it's right on the Texas Oklahoma border. Red River. There used to be a tow bridge there and they called it the Old tow Bridge. Since gone. You know, there used to be riverboats that went up and down the Red River, and there's a lot of houses and things that were up in the hills that were abandoned after the you know, the riverboat stopped. And so my aunt and my uncle they would go and they'd go scavenging through those places and find a lot of things.

16:26 But my uncle, he was my mom's older brother, and my mom was born in nineteen twenty seven, so he was like ten years older than my mom, so he would have been born in like nineteen twenty or somewhere in that area. And Uncle Bud was his name. He was old Sage Indian, he was, and we said Indian. I don't mean to offend anyone. They say Native American then now, But back when I grew up and we were Native Americans and we were Indians, no one said Native America. It wasn't a thing back then. But anyway, he told me a story about when he was down in the Red River area. There's a lake there called Leaper Lake where a bunch of rich people go and hunt and fish and things like that. And this was basically this doesn't happen anymore. But I was like thirteen years old at the time, and he was teaching me how to drive three on the tree. We're out just kind of rolling in the backwoods in Texas and Oklahoma, and he was telling me where to go and everything.

17:38 We went, and we stopped on this bridge and it was an iron bridge, and he was a he had a purp just a very interesting man. He went to World War two, had a purple heart, and never he never talked about it in life. But I had my mom's Bible and I was going through the Bible and then I opened it up and there's his purple Heart award there. And but he said he and his friends were out on that bridge as teenagers did back in the nineteen twenties or thirties. And he said that they were there and the bridge was about at that time, about ten feet up like, and he said they were all on the bridge and they started hearing something down in the river by the river. And the Red River has quicksand, and I never that's one river. I'd never even go in the Red River and Trinity River really anywhere river anymore. But so they were on this bridge and he said that they kept hearing these things, like something was like throwing things down in the river bed.

18:46 And they're still on the bridge at that time, and they're, you know, trying to figure out what it is. And then they were getting real quiet quiet, and he said that something walked up or I don't even know how to tell it, but he said that the thing was so tall that his eyes were over the bridge and his eyes were red. And this was way back before like flashlights. People didn't have flashlights back then. This was lanterns or you know, or nothing. But he told me that story, and you know, took me there and it's quite an experience. And I never thought that I would experience one like that. But no, I don't live in the area anymore. I'm in New Hampshire, someone had asked.

19:41 But no, I don't live there. But I was born and raised in Gainesville, Texas. My mom my dad migrated from Italy and it's like, welcome to America. You're in the United States Army. And he was sent to a German pow camp and called Camp camp Hood and my mother was Native, and the reservation backed up to where the German peel W Camp was, and my mom and her friends would go look at the German men because they were so beautiful, and she ended up meeting my dad there at that peel W camp.

20:21 Wow, that's an in story. My goodness. That area you were talking about, Like, is that around Thackerville. Yes, it's between Thackerville and the Texas Oklahoma border Red River right there. Yeah, a lot of. Nothing that area today, or I would say in the last ten years by bigfoot researchers. It's called purgatory because the encounters that come out of that area with Bigfoot are I would say, the most aggressive I've ever heard. I've interviewed a few people from that area and it's a very very sketchy area that I would not recommend anyone just go in by themselves. It's pretty wild.

21:12 I wouldn't go in those woods, I mean. And also you had the goat Man that story that came from that area. Actually that was more around White Rock Lake and Fort Worth. But the goat Man was this creature that was half man, half goat, and it was just I don't know if it's true, but it was a fable when I was a kid, and back then wrestling was a big thing, and I remember we went to wrestling match and this guy was his thing was he was the goat Man. This was the time during like Andre the Giant and I don't know if you've ever heard of the van Erks the wrestlers, but anyway, the goat goat man was going to fight in this thing.

21:57 And I remember sitting with my mom and dad, I'm like, for you years old, and I was just terrified. I'm like, is this man going to kill all of us? Or is this goat man going to take us all out? But he was a scary looking guy. He kind of looked like what Howard Hughes looked. Have you ever seen pictures of him before his death? He had the long nails and the long hair. That's what the goat men that I saw was the goat Man. And another place is Maxdell Bridge outside of Colleen, Texas. It washed away during the floods in July, but it was probably the most and my hair stands up and my voice trembles because it was a place that there was something definitely real.

22:47 I don't know what it was, but it was definitely real and you could feel the dimensions. That's the only way I know how to say it. But the Maxdell Bridge, anyone knows it, you can look it up. It's not about Bigfoot. It's more about ghost and hauntings. There's there's so many weird stories from Texas and southern Oklahoma. But you had you had something about the goat Man Bridge. You were saying, yes, the the goat Man Bridge. Well they called it the Goatman Bridge. But there's different places that I've heard about it. But the one that we went to was in outside of Killeen, Texas, and just it was called Maxdelle Bridge and it is a bridge that borders a cemetery and it's been closed off. You can't you couldn't drive on the bridge. And my family and I we went out there because we had heard all these stories. And my son had told me a story that I thought he was crazy. But there's a story about a flying squirrel, but it wasn't spelt squirrel.

24:02 It was more like a squire. And that's just something that my son saw and heard. I didn't, but he was pretty terrified at that place and he's like, let's go there. My old younger son was playing hockey in Austin, so we'd drive by there, you know, drove one hundred miles to take my son to hockey. And my son's like, well, we need to go there. So we weren't there one night after we got out of hockey practice, and it was a scary night and definitely something there. I don't know what, but something. Goodness. Thank you for sharing some stories from your family history as well. I appreciate that, Lisa. Is this second conversation one I can use as well?

24:51 Sure, well you can use it well. Thank you for coming up again. I am gonna check in with I've got you know, when you know it, we all of a sudden, we got a ton of people and to come up and but I appreciate you coming up again. Thank you. Okay, I have a good one. Thank you. Lisa has some great stories. My goodness. Hey Wade, how are you man? Great? Great, it's good to be speaking with you again. Yeah. Absolutely. How are things out there? Oh? Well, you know, working too much as usual? You know, that's that's normal. I have to tell you about the museum I went to uh in Boring, Oregon. Okay, what a great resource of information. It's hard to articulate what a great thing, uh that that museum is. I got there and nobody was there, and then it got really packed.

25:51 But what the information As you walk through they have casts and photos and uh and look cations and the stories of how they got the different casts in there. And it was absolutely fascinating. And I went on a motorcycle ride from Redmond, organ to Boring, which is a fantastic ride. And the two men that were working in there at the time were very decent people, very likable and approachable, and I kind of made a small mistake.

26:32 I told him that we had him on the property for four years in Oregon when I was very young. And they were absolutely thrilled to speak to me about that. And we didn't agree to speak again about it, you know, and because they were busy and working at the time, and I can appreciate that. And you go there and they'll give you a pin and you put the pin on it where you had your sighting. And I was shocked at how many pins in the Pacific Northwest they had on their map. And it's a map of the entire United States, but it is absolutely stunning in some spots you can't put a pin anymore in that area.

27:23 No, absolutely, yeah, that just in case people have made the connection. The North American Bigfoot Center is a really cool place. I was able to go there in July. It was awesome. It is absolutely awesome, and it's a place where you can bring your whole family, because certainly I was the only singular individual there. It was all families. Everybody was smiling and thrilled, and it was great vibes. Like I said, the. Two men working in there were wonderful. I understand. It's owned by Cliff. Forgive me, I don't remember his last.

28:03 Name, the Cliff. Then yep, thank you, thank you. And I was kind of hoping to see him, and and they said no, he you know, he gets here, you know, kind of sporadically. And I said, well, as long as he gets there on pay day, everything's kosher, right, And then of course we had a good. Laugh, right. And and it's right off the freeway. It's so there's big signs on the highway, you know, uh, pretty easy to find and what I thought it might in all fairness, I kind of had to steal myself a little bit when I wrote up there to think you know, I'm almost sixty years old, and I'm not a gen z or.

28:47 I don't get like with all due respect, I don't get like triggered, right. I really don't have those. But I had to really steal myself before I walked in there. And after a few minutes, I thought, you know what, this is fantastic. And let me qualify that, say that you have seen Bigfoot or a little bit, or you have seen them a couple of times or whatever, and you walk in there and you can and you can educate yourself. I'm thinking, okay, I'm not an idiot. That's exactly what I've seen. And it's okay to say, hey, you know what, I seen one of these things and it looks like this and there in this location is where it was, and it's a It is a fantastic tool for to walk in there and say, you know what, I'm not crazy and it's okay, and this uh, and you can educate yourself. Certainly. They have a profound amount of information as you've seen when you walk in there, and it's a lot to take in and so and of course I bought my girl a T shirt. I bring her back a T shirt you know, because you know the old saying, Hey, bring me back a T shirt.

30:11 I splurged and bought one of the castings that they have in a clear glass case right there. They had a dozen, and of course it's not the original, and I understand that the original is being studied. It's off being looked at. And I didn't keep it because I've seen it before. I'm okay with that. But and I gave it to one of my peers who is very interested, and I'm glad. I had a trunk on the back of that BMW big enough for this cast. And it's just a it's a very visceral thing to hold in your hands. They put a little card in there before they wrapped it saying this cast was cast in this location on this date and it's a right foot but it is an uncanny thing. Even as a gift. I gave it to one of my friends that I respect a lot, but it's still there was that moment standing out in the parking lot holding this thing, even in the bubble wrap was it was quite jarring and it's a very visceral experience. So and at the end of the day I went in there had a fantastic time,

31:41 lovely people, and I spent money there to help that place continue. It's worth it. It is absolutely worth it to support them. You know. I got to ask you, was it hard being in front of Murphy like that because. Of your his No, Murphy kind of looked like the large female that I was in practice of seeing at least maybe once a month, sometimes once every two months. That was she was a little shorter than the male and blockie, and that's what Murphy looked like. And but she was she was no problem. She always the girl.

32:23 My sister's seen her more often than any of the two younger ones or the large male. So but there was a there was a moment of pause before I stepped through that doorway past the countertop where I really had to steal myself. The crazy thing about that area is that it is so close to some really really high activity bigfoot locations, you know. And that's exactly what they told me. For Betam and any rational person, once you get past the UH reservation and you start hit the tree line and start going over mount Hood, you're like, okay, well yeah, that's absolutely absolutely wow.

33:12 Uh it is. It's always a pleasure to talk to you, and I'm glad that you're doing well. Is this a Is this a conversation I can use for the show? If if I. I would be delighted. Okay, okay, well thank you for coming up. Yeah, you're you're doing great on your your podcast, and uh, I jump on whenever I can. Always good to talk to you. We'll we'll connect in the future as well. You have a good one, man, Absolutely, you have a good evening. Bye bye, Hey Scott, how are you, sir?

33:52 Hey man? What's the good word? What's the good word? So here's the deal. All right, here's what I know. So, uh, the fifty eight lifetime s Pacific Northwest Lifetime Hunter never seen anything, never heard anything, brothers never seen anything, really heard anything. But that was more down in the lower Willhamotte Valley in Oregon, Okay. And so then I him getting a job in nineteen ninety matter of fact, in Stevenson, and that Stevenson is in Skimania County, Okay.

34:33 And I was in radio equipment, and I got to know all these really not old but these old enforcement deputies that worked for the county sheriff and and me, you know, and they had all they were all twenty twenty five year plus guys, you know, And if you get to know these guys, they're very factual, meaning short of if they don't see it, it didn't happen. If they don't if it's not on film, it didn't happen. They're very literal, all of them.

35:13 You know. And and you know, and in that group that they were in, not me, but what they were in, you know, And you never want to spout out something odd, you know, like I saw UFOs, which they none of them believe. That's another thing that they're very kind of what the ones that I talked. To didn't believe in. But but. The one thing that they did say is this, and it was very interesting. I have a few other stories about the the big foot thing is they all have the same the ones that I talk they all have the same similar stories and never had a dead one. Look. But they were driving along way up high in the county it was called North County, and they would like catch something they would catch so something like what like something was like, hey, they saw us a flash and it and it was never a confirmed thing, and that was always what it was. And then even during that time, I remember there were three Native Americans up in the county next to uh Skiminia, which is I can't even remember what it was. And they had said that that they had trapped actually had trapped one in National and I remember National gig Ray. It was a huge, big deal.

36:30 And then it turned out that it had been nothing. But there are It's a weird thing up there in Scamania County. It is. You know, the things I've heard out of Skamania County are absolutely wild, because you gotta you know, people have to realize if you don't know the area you're talking about from down the Columbia River, you know, all the way up to Mount Saint Helens and a little bit north of it. It is just it's a crazy amount of area. And it is huge. And that's one thing that people don't realize is just how big it is. It's enormous.

37:14 But you know, and this is an odd, a different, an odd story of how this item got here. In nineteen ninety matter of fact, people were that was like people were kind of into like extreme camping. You know, you'd go out and camp for like two weeks, like like fifteen miles and you know that that kind of stuff well, I got to know some other guy and he was like, hey, man, I went on this extreme camp, you know, and I found something cool. You know. I'm like, well, what is it? You know? And he had found and I mean way out in the middle. We're like like fifty miles in the middle of he found a true and I looked it up with it stills the serial numbers, a true World War One American dagger just stoved in the ground. The wood handles had rotted away, and it was just sitting there.

38:14 And they were out there and uh, I mean, I mean in the middle of nowhere. And he found that. He was just stunned, It's like and so I'm like, well, how on earth? So I got a hold of the county guys and said, well, how is the military out there? And Lyric heck, no, nothing's out there. And so I actually then I sent some guys that military people that knew like these serial numbers. And it was truly it was a World War One US bayonet that someone had stuck out there and and so and even better. Uh, when I left in ninety two, my friend gave me the bayonet and I I still have it, and I still have it and so what I'm getting at too, you don't know what's out there. I mean, I just it's like you know and you just don't know. Man.

39:19 I'm just I know I'm rambling on, but uh, you know, I've seen your show, and uh I we want always kind of want to get on and tell you that tell you what I knew. But I appreciate you doing so. I mean, there's so many I mean, we've both we both heard the wild stuff about this this area of the legends, and certain areas are crazier than others in Skamania maybe, and it's just it is a wild area. I appreciate you coming up and sharing what you what you heard over the years. It does help. They're convinced there's something. You know, it's just not they but they're they're they're just not a not They're just not there's not enough proof for them to say, yeah, we've seen it. But the funny thing is it was there was multiple of them, of different kinds of guys too.

40:10 You know, you might have like the tough guy over there, and you might have an athletic one, and they all kind of have the same freaking in which we always thought was odd. But uh, great show, dude. You got a lot other people who want to get on and but nice chatting with you. Hey, yeah, is this a conversation I can use on the show as well? Scott? Yeah? Man, all right, sir, well thank you for coming up. I appreciate it. All right, dude, talk to you. Good stuff. Man. Oh, Scott's a good guy from up there. You can tell Hey, say, Shasha, how are you? I am nervous? Oh you're good? Okay? Oh so I can't hear myself the first time I've ever been live.

40:55 On TikTok you go. Okay, all right. So I'm from Long Is in New York, very flat, surrounded by water. Nothing going on here, maybe the occasional red Fox here and there. This is in twenty fifteen. I has got a job offer to go to Washington State to help build a restaurant with people that lived in Washington State. In Aberdeen. Actually, and so we met the husband and wife became very good friends, and they were showing us around Washington all the time.

41:35 Great people. The wife of the restaurant owner, she's pretty pretty powerful woman. So anyway, so she lives on Lake Quinault in Washington State. So she's you know, I brought up the subject of Bigfoot because I was always interested because I'm a child of the seventies when Bogie Creek came out, and me and my sisters were always like a little freaked out by it, you know, and interested. So I had dropped my husband off at Seattle Airport and she invited me up to Quinna for dinner. And I had had her adopted daughter with me, who was seven, and my daughter who was eleven at the time, and we were driving up Highway one on one. It was like five o'clock, so I was just starting to go down a little bit of lightly raining and it was, like I said, Highway one on one. I don't know if you've been on that road. It's very the logging road. It's you know, I'm driving up there my New York plates, going really slow, very intimidated. And I'm driving and I was actually on the phone with my friend from New York, and I was on the speakerphone with her, and the two kids are in the back of my niece on Morano and and I noticed something that.

43:03 Just didn't look looked out of place. With my peripheral vision on my right hand side. I was like, what was that? It was like enormous and with and it was very very you know, textured and reddish. So I took my foot up the gas and I was gonna like dismiss it because I thought I was just seeing something, you know, but I saw like just in my windshield. Like his torso. So I took my foot off the gas and I was gonna dismiss it. And I looked in my rear view mirror and my daughter's eyes were as big as sauces and she said, gasped, She said, Mom, did you see that?

43:57 And I just wanted to. I guess she is just she. Must have sare like more than I did. So we get up to Lake Quanaut, and of course my friend is one hundred percent Native, and she did not dismiss it. She said she has smelt it on the reservation. But in Native American folklore they say never to turn around or look at it, she said, but she has smelt it. And she's like, well, I guess you're not going home tonight. I'm like, no, I'm staying in your place now. And at the time, my daughter, who's very chatty, just shut down.

44:39 She just just shut down. Would not talk about it. So now the next day we go home and I sat down quiet, quietly with her, and she told me, on the left side, whatever I saw with my right and my peripheral vision in my windshield, I just saw it like it's torso. Excuse me, she said. On the left hand side, there were two of them, and she thought they were hunters at first, she says, but it turned around and it looked at her, and she said, mommy, I saw it soul like.

45:19 That was the words of an eleven year old. Which was pretty let me get out, dogs barking, let me go in here? So what else? So it was just, you know, I'm I'm a little nervous. Told the story and it was like, you know, ten years ago. But then you know, asking around and asking conservationists men and talking to police. They were like, you're not the first person to have an encounter here, you know, and they appreciated the story. But I'm my life as ever has changed since that that that creature exists.

46:08 Didn't I want to I want to clarify something. Sure, so you said that your daughter said that she saw it soul. That's what she said. It looked, she said it looked at her. Now there was two on apparently on her side, which was my driver's side. I was looking to my right when I saw. That that that torso in the in my windshield. So when I was looking briefly to the right, she was looking left. So there must have been three of them. Like maybe it was just a road crossing and it hurt my car and it stopped. The third didn't craws you know whatever. But she said, yeah, she said, it turned its head and it looked right dead at her.

46:59 She said, and it's his eyes were just black. And she said, and I saw it soul. That Those were her words of an eleven year old. I saw it soul. That is such an interesting way to put it. I've never had anyone say that, I would be it would be really interesting. I don't know if you've ever asked her what she meant by that statement. I think I think she almost had like a maybe like almost like a telepathic encounter, because she she got she had said she could look. At them, not like I did. I just got like I just got a periphial, you know, textured something I was like because at first I thought it was a telephone pole and I was like, that's.

47:47 Too thick, it's too broad, you know, And like I. Said, I was going to dismiss it until my daughter said. Mom, did you see that? And I was like, oh, so I thought she was seeing the one that I was looking at, But they were on the opposite side of the road, the ones that she saw. And she's twenty one years old right now. And I always figured should come out one day and say, ma, I was joking around, but she tells that story to everybody, so do I for years and years. And it was it was incredible, incredible, incredible.

48:28 And it was highway. It was mile marker one fourteen. I'll never forget that. Wow. She you know, the exact mile marker as well. Really awesome because as I drove away, I said, just in case something happens, I need to know. My grandfather always told me not look at your mile markers when you're traveling. Yep, so. And I looked it up. I think it's humped Tulips. I think that's the city. Okay, how has this affected you since. Well, I'm the youngest of four kids, you know, I have three older sisters. And they were like, I mean, I think everybody believes me. I think, you know, they're like, tell you a story, tell your story.

49:13 It has affected me. I became a I've become a I mean every podcast that's out there, every book, every story I read. I was just like, it's fascinating. It's it's really fascinating. And like I said, I was always waiting for my daughter to say, oh, it's just kidding around. But she told the teacher at school when she came. Back to New York because we moved back a year later, and but she really couldn't speak for days, which is like I said, my daughter is very gabby, and she just could not. She shut down. She shut down for a while, like you know, I guess she was felt a little shameful, I don't know, or just maybe in shock.

49:59 You know. That night she's like, we're not driving home mom. I'm like, no, I'm not going to at home? Right. Yeah, I don't blame yet at all. What what? What a fascinating encounter because both of you were able to have a citing Yeah, it's it's very very unique. And you know, I want to say thank you so much for sharing what you experienced. We welcome. Is this a conversation that that I can use on my Bigfoot podcast that I have absolutely yes, okay, thank you, thank you for that. Well, I appreciate you coming up now, thank you. But what an account looks like? That area she's talking about is about halfway between Quinnall and Aberdeen and it is a very very small community, about two hundred and thirty six individuals. Hey, Duel, how are you hey good? How are you just having a good night hanging out?

51:03 Yeah? I always love hearing all the stories. Same here. I'm kind of one of those that I feel kind of either blessed or cursed because I've had a couple of encounters. I shared one with you, which was the one where I actually had we actually had a visual sighting my entire family in southeast Georgia. Yep, but actually i've had in that same area. This is in Yeah, it's near I won't say near, it's it's actually our hunting property is in Kite, Georgia, which is just a little bit north or yeah, northeast of Adrian, Georgia, which is just off of by sixteen. We had the visual sighting and this occurred, oh gosh, probably about four years ago.

51:57 Where my both my boys are you know, they're grown that oh I say grown, they're twenty three and twenty eight. But they were with me. We were down there at our hunting property and one night goofing a round. We had all been watching you know, the oh gosh, what was the Bigfoot show? The one with oh gosh, like driving bok Foot finding big Foot? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah. And then when I say rule, there's probably tight. Georgia probably has five hundred people in the in that area as far as residents, Adrian probably you know, eighteen hundred.

52:42 So very very rural. I mean we hunt on three different tracks of land that we have that are are that we have a permission to that are seventy eight acres, another one's seventy nine and the other one's over split between two tracks exit back to back that are probably right around two hundred acres. And we've had some unusual things happen, but this this one occasion was probably the weirdest thing we've ever had. As far as being out there, We've always heard unusual alcols. You know, you hear the bobcat screams, coyote yells and kind of get just you just get used to it, but it sets you on edge.

53:23 But one night we were sitting on this little stoop of this little an old house built back in the fifties and kidding around. I was kidding with my oldest son, and he's like, I'm going to do one of those those whoops. I at first was kind of reluctant. I was like, okay, yeah, okay, whatever, And he he did this, I would say, more of a guttural whoop that was just like better than anything I could have done. I mean, I mimicked the guys from you know, from the Bigfoot show, and we were getting around, but he did his and from across and when I say across the road, the house sits probably one hundred yards from the road. There's a pond to the right, and then it's nothing but woods behind us that flows all the way down to a river. And we heard something start to crash through the woods coming up towards us. And when I say crash, I mean the intensity of what we heard, like limbs breaking and almost like you could hear a bipedal motion of stomping. Is it ran towards us. It literally came up to the road, sits up on an embankment and it sounded like you could hear it just land onto

54:53 the road side and it just had this piercing kind of I don't know if screams the right word or yell, but it just let out this horrendous yell or it was not a whoop, It was more of a screen. And the three of us froze kind of sitting there wondering, okay, whether we just call up, and the entire evening it felt like we were being just surrounded. I mean like you could hear movement on two different sides of the house.

55:36 Of course, we couldn't hear anything behind us because we're sitting on the front stoop of this little bitty home, but you could hear movement going through and how the best way to describe this property is of course in South Georgia, so it's nothing but tall timber and tall pines. It's not the butt pine trees that was just literally devastated this past year by Hurricane Milton and Helene. But you could hear it come up between us and the pond, and we kept hearing I wouldn't say it sounded more like a grunt, but you could hear movement coming up each side of us and to the left facing the road.

56:25 To the left is an old creek bed that in part of that area of the front yard goes down into almost like a marsh, but it's a very small marshland, and you could hear something moving around it coming up to the left where we could constantly hear something moving through the scrub brush between us and the pond, coming up to the right. And of course my oldest son, he's kind of the wild child, and my youngest is going shut up, quit stop, and he would kind of, I don't want to say, antagonize it, but tended to antagonize or let out another whoop, and you would hear more rustling. Now, at first I thought, okay, this is I tried to explain it off coyotes because we have tons of coyotes down there, bobcats. You know, it's it's South's rural Georgia, so you've got plenty of coyote and bobcats. Anyway, So sorry, I'm getting nervous. I'm getting a little nervous talking about it. But it was it was such an unusual encounter that that's the first time I literally because having my two sons with me, I got up, grabbed my shotgun, walked off the porch because we have no ambient light outside of the house, and walked towards way or I heard something moving into the There's a large area that has blueberry bush, blueberry bushes and large scrub

58:00 rush that goes down towards the pond. I walked straight towards it with my shotgun pumped at once and just said that's enough. If somebody's here at make yourself known. And it went dead silent. I mean to the point literally it was like early just no movement, nothing moved, nothing was heard. But it was that was you know. I only decided to tell this one story because of the encounter we had gosh, fifteen years earlier, probably forty miles south of there, which is where we saw the road growth crossing.

58:45 Right right exactly. Oh my goodness, man, I'm trying to put myself in this situation. But yeah, I mean, you. Had your kids there, You're on a high alert, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean it's I've had we've had some a couple of different we've hunted the same property. I've been hunting it since I was I'm fifty five. I started hunting there when I got out of the Air Force in the early nineties. We've had some strange encounters, me and my buddy, whose family owns the property. He no longer hunts there, but we have permission to continue hunting.

59:28 But we've had several in strange encounters that have just really piqued my curiosity of what is you know, what's in that area? Is it? And we've we've had years where there's been nothing, and then we've had two or three years in a row where we've had such unusual encounters. Like one one time, which would have been oh gosh, this would have been in the mid nineties. I had I had killed a dough cleaned it, drug off the remainder of the carcass, carried it down into some scrub brush.

1:00:12 And this is probably from the house that I'm describing from the first encounter is probably half a mile through the woods, but a mile mile and a half on roadway. We had left that evening, went into town, went and had dinner, came back and it was me and my buddy, who of course had whose family that owns all of this land. You know, we were pulling back up when we were in my jeep and another friend of ours is in the back seat and he's he's like turned down the music and I was like, I don't have the stereo on. And as we pulled into the the Soul this is an old old This house was built over one hundred something years ago. It's now been torn down.

1:01:00 This is the primary area that we currently hunt. We pulled up and we could hear we heard this chattering, like almost unusual noises, Like I won't say unusual noise, it just sounded like chattering. And when I got out of the jeep and we went to kind of go around the house, I pulled out my flashlight, I had my gun. We immediately go around and we hear this literally a blood curdling screen, and we hear something just tear off down towards the pond that is on this property, and you could hear it crashing through the woods running.

1:01:42 We basically wound up just curling back up towards the house and trying to calm all of our nerves and didn't hear anything else. The next morning we go over to where I had drug the carcass into the woods, which was just this eletal remains in the the ENTERDS of the deer and they were strewn and part of the deer was completely removed and gone. So anyway, don't know, and I mean bobcats. Bobcats are pretty, you know, agile and able to do a lot, but I've never seen them carry off that much of a carcass that quickly, not in one evening.

1:02:34 There is some man, you have to experience some some weird stuff down in Georgia. That's that's for sure. Joel, my goodness, thank you for sharing. That my pleasure. Yeah, no, is this a is this a conversation I could also put on the podcast. Yeah, yeah, that's fine. All right, awesome, awesome, Well, thank you for coming up again. Of course, thank you for supporting as well. I appreciate that. That means a lot. Absolutely appreciate you. Appreciate all you do. All right, you have a good one shirt you too. Hello, Bob, Hello, how were you, sir?

1:03:18 I'm fine. I was going to tell you I talked to you several nights ago. But I remember back when I was eleven years old, I was duck hunting with my father and his best friend in spring wool Bottom, Tennessee, and they were getting ready to put the boat into the water, and I was just wandering around and I looked with my flashlight and I found a track that.

1:04:03 Had like four or five toes. It's been so long, I can't remember exactly how many. And this was in like. The middle of January, and so there were spots of snow around and I looked and I saw this track. I called my dad. He came over and we looked at it, and then just a couple of minutes later, we heard the most hideous scream out of the woods a little ways from us. And the best I can describe the scream was it was.

1:04:53 All like something. Something that iron. But it screamed for like thirty seconds and then it went silent, and we just stood there looking at each other, and then we got in our boat and went duck hunting. But I got to thinking, after I talked to you the other day, that there's been two or three times when I'd be deer hunting out in the woods and I would have the same smell filled my nostrils, and I would look and I would hunt for the source of the smell, and I could never find it. But it seemed like I was right on top of it, but I never did pinpoint where it was at and after a few minutes it would seem market would just dissipate and go away.

1:06:05 Hum. And you said this is in Tennessee, Bob, Yes, wes Tennessee. That's rights nasty. Some some really really interesting stories. Thank you for coming up again and for sharing, uh some more things you've experienced over the years. Sure do you mind if I use this conversation on the show, Bob of course? All right, Well, thank you for coming up, sir, No problem, Hey, Barb, how's it going.

1:06:52 Good? How's it going with you? Way northern Wisconsin, driving home one night around two am, in the middle of nowhere, nowhere, no homes, no nothing, just a deep, dark back road. And yeah, there was something on the side of the road. And I think I may have sent you something about this. It was.

1:07:33 Very big, very hairy, two am, and it was wearing a flannel shirt and blue jeans. Yep, yep, yeah, oh yeah, like me out. Oh yeah it was it was really. Yeah. I didn't slow down, didn't stop, but there was hair everywhere, I mean, the face, the hands. But blue jeans and a flannel shirt.

1:08:14 What. Yeah, it's. It's a thing where you don't hear about it a lot. But there is a there's a book called Where the Footprints And which is a good collection of like really weird bigfoot stuff and kind of maybe even paranormal stuff. And there's a whole section about sightings where there's ben encounters and they seem to be wearing some sort of clothing like that is very strange. Right right. And the face I'm saying behind you was the face I saw. I mean there was hair everywhere from the hands to the head. Yeah, it was really bizarre.

1:09:01 And I'm the one that did see monkeys on the road too. And listen, I'm sixty five years old. I've lived in this area for forty years, and I'm I was a dental assistant, you know, I'm I'm somewhat normal. I guess, I don't know, but yeah, so I've seen I've seen some interesting things up here. I'm right now at my grandparents' cabin way far more in the middle of nowhere. And my sister spent the last night here and she said that she was looking out towards the west and she heard some thing that she'd never heard before, and there were two deer chasing it. She saw something that was like, Oh, I don't know, if you can see, my hair is kind of brown, but the hair color on whatever it was the deer were chasing was darker than my hair. And yeah, I don't know. I mean it was something the deer were chasing. Couldn't be a

1:10:31 wolf or a coyote. I mean, I don't know what the hell it was. But yeah, there's there's some weird stuff that goes on in the woods. Absolutely, you know, Wisconsin really does have a lot of weird stuff, especially up in the north. That area, like where you had the sighting of the one that was wearing clothing? Was that Are you you able to share the area that that was that sighting was in or is that we can keep that? Oh not public as well? That's fine. I mean.

1:11:13 It was in let's see, Washburn County, Wisconsin, and it was on I don't want to say the road, you know, I don't want a lot of people go on there. You got to yeah, no, nope, that's okay, Washburn And what was approximate year on that again. Two thousand and thirteen, I want to say, gotcha right, yep. And like I say, there may be a game farm around here, because I had a peacock on my deck.

1:11:58 And I've seen monkeys on the roads. So if you look that up you can kind of see, you know, who is in that area. You looking it up. Yeah, it's interesting. Yeah, there are a few Safari parks up there too. I'm noticing right right. And you know, it may, like I say, it may have been something that escaped. I don't know.

1:12:39 I have no idea. And what the being was that I saw on the road at two am. It freaked me out. There's no way I was going to stop. I wasn't going to stop. And you know, see, do you want to help? Because there was no homes, No, there was nothing around. It's some wild stuff. It might help explain the monkeys you saw, but it does not explain what you saw wearing clothing for sure. I mean that's just something completely different, right but my goodness.

1:13:20 Yeah, and I don't drink or do drugs, you know, so I'm. Not true right right right there you go. Yeah, Wisconsin's got some some weird stuff. Well, it was good talking to you. Thank you for coming up and for sharing that. I do remember the email you sent me now. Oh yeah, yep, yep, all right, take. Care is this a conversation I can use for the show as well. Barb of course, of course, all right, thank you, thank you so much. You bet take care, good stuff. Wisconsin is weird. He see how's it going?

1:14:01 Oh hey, I don't even know it was on Hi. So yeah. I told my story on here before about driving and seeing a bigfoot run across the road. And I mean, it's the only thing you could describe it as is a big foot. I've seen bears all my life, mountain lions. I grew up in Bluemouth's National Forest and also off Good up in there, and it's part of the Sierra Mountains. But and then years and years later, me and my brother not too long ago, had an encounter. We didn't get to see it, but we heard it in the snow.

1:14:43 It was about like two feet of snow and I was doing like some whooping noises and it was making some weird I can't even repeat what it was doing. It was. It is really deep and almost like I was trying to talk, and my brother was getting nervously scared, but he just wanted to run up the road a little bit with his dog. And then that's when I heard it. Just it sounded like an elephant stomping through the snow up the hill towards me. So I started yelling for my brother and he starts flying back down to the car and he's like, let's go, let's go. I'm not doing this no more. Let's go, and then we left.

1:15:31 But I have. A couple questions for you. What got you into this? Did you see one? I'm just really curious. Oh yeah, I can talk about that for a minute. So really what I watched a lot of old shows with my dad growing up about Bigfoot and unsolved mysteries and stuff. And then during well right before twenty twenty, I was like, hey, I should start a podcast, and then it was the right time to start it, and then about two years ago I made it focused primarily on talking to people about Bigfoot. It just kind of really escalated from there because I realized there's a lot of people that really just need to share what they've experienced, and not a lot of people are willing to listen.

1:16:24 So that's really what it turned into. And it's it's been a really wild ride so far. So have you ever went out looking for one? Yeah, a few times I have. I go to. A place in Iowa, where I'm from, and it's pretty active. We've heard wood knocks and whoops and got trees got pushed over. There's been a few sightings in the area, and I went to vent to a place in Oregon a few times and we got roared and screamed out out there. It's pretty wild. I haven't had a visual yet, but uh, but it's just uh, I've had a lot of really other weird things happen so far. Sony.

1:17:21 When you do get a sighting and it's going to shake you down to your. Gore, man, yeah, I'm trying to get ready for it, you know. So it's kind of if you can get prepared for it. But sometimes you don't even get that. That a luxury, you know, like you. Don't even know how it's really going to react to you if it's close to note, you know what I mean. That's the scary part. You don't know. The way it moved across the road wasn't like a human. It was more like a wild animal or right the way a gear moves across like just float. The way it just flowed across the road like so natural and so fast, but it was so big.

1:18:04 It's just it was, we're just thing I've ever seen it? Yeah, I watched the Bob Gibblan film and stuff like that when I was a kid, and I was always interested in it, and it was like hoping it was out there, but I didn't really think it was going to be out there. But man, it scared the crap at me when I seen it. And I do have the video footage on YouTube right after we've seen it, the reaction of the kid screaming like we've seen it too. I got out of the car. I was trying to look for prints, but it was like the ground was so solid that you couldn't really see too much. But I found one spot that I mean, if you pause it there and just look at it, you can see the out line of a huge foot and the tree that it ran past. I thought it was small, smaller, bigot, you know. But the tree that it went past. I went up to that tree, it was like twelve feet hyphan, so that thing had it been like ten feet.

1:19:09 Or no problem. Absolutely, Wow, some wild stuff, dude, Jesse. I appreciate you coming up. Thanks for asking me a few questions. It's good talking to you, Matt. You do all right, Bette, It's tough. Thank you for listening to this episode of The Big Society Podcast. Every encounter we share reminds us that the world is bigger and stranger than we think, and that the truth is often hiding just beyond the tree line. If you enjoyed this episode, please be sure to subscribe to the channel on YouTube hit the bell so you don't miss the next episode, and share this with a friend who's into mysteries, monsters, or the unexplained.

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