Sept. 15, 2025

Texas Woman Finds Headless Horses in Bigfoot Territory!

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Season 1

What do a pair of headless horses in Texas, a roadside Sasquatch sighting in Washington, and a screaming entity in Georgia all have in common? They're just a few of the chilling stories shared in this jam-packed episode of Bigfoot Society. We begin with Lisa, a woman who lived near Lake Whitney, Texas, in the 1980s — where late-night footsteps along the Brazos River led to a gruesome discovery in the woods. Her tale of terror unfolds into a lifetime of strange experiences, including a harrowing encounter in a coastal Oregon forest, and ancestral legends passed down from her Osage uncle about a red-eyed beast taller than a bridge.



But that’s just the beginning.



You’ll also hear from a Kentucky witness who stumbled upon massive footprints and bloodcurdling screams near the infamous Hotel California by Land Between the Lakes — an area with ties to alleged Dogman attacks. We visit Washington’s mile marker 114, where a mother and daughter see not one, but multiple Sasquatch figures crossing the road. The daughter’s reaction? “I saw its soul.” In Wisconsin, a woman recalls a hairy humanoid dressed in flannel and jeans — and a separate sighting involving deer chasing something they weren’t supposed to see. And in Georgia, a family’s Bigfoot curiosity turns terrifying when whoops from their porch summon something massive, bipedal, and enraged from the woods.



From duck hunts in Tennessee interrupted by screams, to firsthand visits to the North American Bigfoot Center in Boring, Oregon, this episode travels coast to coast collecting accounts that defy explanation. Whether it’s invisible movements, overpowering smells, or unplaceable sounds — these witnesses all experienced something that left them changed.



So buckle up. Episode 894 isn’t just one story. It’s a haunting mosaic of voices — and a reminder that when it comes to Sasquatch, sometimes the truth is stranger than fear.

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You're listening to Big Flat Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron.

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In this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to

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bring you first hand encounters from people who say they've

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seen something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers

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to quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere,

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and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.

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These are the.

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Voices of the people who've lived it. To settle in,

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because today you'll hear another account that just might change

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the way you see the woods forever. So stay with us. Hey, Lisa,

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how are you?

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I'm good.

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How are you do?

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In great?

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So it sounds like you have an encounter of yours

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to share.

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Yes, I have an encounter. I'm originally from Texas. I

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live in New England now, but I lived on the

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Brass River Bright if you know where Lake Whitney is.

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I lived in the first house that was on the

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side of the dam. And I was really young, like

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nineteen years old. But my husband, he worked in Dallas,

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so he would leave every morning at like at three

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o'clock in the morning to go to Dallas to go

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to work three to four and we lived right on

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the river and there was dogs out there, and I

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would go out and sit. And I'd been raised in

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Texas and lived in different places. But I started hearing

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things running across the river, and you could hear the

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thump of the feet, and I just got chills. And

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after I heard the sound of it running, I heard

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it climbing up up. Something was climbing up. There was

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like a big hill, not a mountain, but a big hill.

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And so this went on for like three days, three

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different times I saw I heard it. I couldn't see

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it because it's pitch black. But my husband and we

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decided I had told him about it, and we decided

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we were going to do some investigating of our own,

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and so we went. And this area is between Waco

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and Whitney, and at that time, it's like forty mileels

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of nothing, just a few farms. And we started walking

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in the woods and the first thing we noticed that

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there was no birds or anything making any sound. And

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we started smelling horrible, horrible smells. And as we were walking,

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we found a dead horse. And the thing about the

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horse is it was missing its head. And so we

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saw the first dead horse. We kept walking. Evidently weren't

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too smart at that time, but anyway, we kept walking

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and then there was another dead horse, and at about

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that time we heard some movement, but it wasn't a

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movement like what you would think. It was more like

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a brush of air. And my husband, he's passed it

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this time, but he was an avid hunter, avid sportsman,

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and he I've never seen someone so scared in my life.

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I mean we both took off running and we ran

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and ran and ran. And to make a long story short,

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we lived there for about a year and I heard

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this thing several times. Never went back up into those

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mountains or hills to look for it because it was

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a terrifying experience. And then I was in Oregon. I

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tried to go on with you Live a while back,

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but I was in Oregon. I had cancer and I

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had surgery in Washington. Then I recovered in Oregon. It's

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on the coast, and I was staying at my friend's

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house and right on the ocean, which you know, that's

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where it was. Walport, Oregon, which has Bigfoot on there

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their sign local city sign. And my friend, her husband

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is a firefighter, and they were working some fires and

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organ and I was covering from surgery. I'd spent five

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weeks in the hospital and I had one hundred and

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fifty staples in my leg and I couldn't walk. And

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I was dog watching their dog and I'm in the

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woods and the Oregon and they have these windows that

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I didn't stand, but you couldn't close them. You couldn't

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close curtains, you couldn't close the blind and something. The

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dog was just a little like Kickney's dog, a really

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small dog. She started going crazy and something was running

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around the house. It was on I didn't it just

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sounded like a person running, but whatever it was, it

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ran around the house several times. I ended up turning

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off all the lights, going to the back bedroom and

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kind of like barricading myself in the room because I'm like,

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is this the hotown had that area of Waldport is

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about fifty miles from Corvallis. In that area there, they

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only had like one state trooper that worked that whole area.

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And I'm like, there's no one to call. What we're

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gonna do? And anyway, So that was my experience with Bigfoot,

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and I really do think that they're real, and I

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do think that they're inter dimensional because of the sound

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that I heard in Texas.

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The.

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Brush of air or rush of air. I don't know

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how he would say it, but it was real, and

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it wasn't a sound that I'd ever heard or that

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I've heard since that It just felt like something was moving,

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moving in a different area that I wasn't going. And

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I do believe they're inter dimensional, and I think the

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vell is lifting, and I think that there will continue

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to be sightings, and evidently they're pretty aren't creatures, And

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I don't know what their row is here on Earth.

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You know, who knows where they come from their nephelin,

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if they're from that area, that's where they came from,

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or what started, you know, with the children of the

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Angels and the things that they became. I don't know

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if these were spinoffs from that are what happened, But

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they're definitely not on the same level of this Earth

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as we are. I think that's just my opinion as

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far as who knows.

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What they are.

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It's one of the most interesting topics because there's so

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many different ways of looking at it. But you know,

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one thing is for sure, there's something out there that

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we're at most times not able to see sometimes we

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are able to see them though for sure. Now in

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Lake Whitney, Texas, when you saw those two horses were

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there and you said neither of them had heads. Were

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they cut off or torn off? Or could you tell?

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The first horse, I couldn't tell because it was too

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far gone so far as everything being not being there.

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But the second horse, it looked like I had horses

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and showed horses from matt Lock Rose out of North Texas.

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If anyone watches Yellowstone, that's where all the horses and

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stuff from that show came from North Texas. And the

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horse's head was ripped off. It wasn't cut, it was jagged.

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It didn't look like a bite. It looked like a

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like someone something just ripped the head off.

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Wow.

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I mean.

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You think about it. What kind of things can do that, right?

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I mean, there's not many that come to my mind,

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some weird stuff. I'm glad you guys got out of there.

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And yeah, it was a bad feeling and the whole

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experience ended up us living there on the house. It

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was just a bad experience and I never want to

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live in Lake Whitney again. But after this bigfoot thing happened,

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I was in the house, and you know, I didn't

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have a car with me, we didn't have a phone.

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And this was back in nineteen eighty.

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Five around that area in Texas. Did you ever talk

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to your any other neighbors that had things going on

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as well?

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Yes, we did. They're all past way now, you know,

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the old timers that used to live there and everything,

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and it's such an area that is so just desolate.

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It used to have more, you know, it was greener

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and all that, but now it's just becoming more and

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more arid and drying. Texas is turning into a desert

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in some places. But there was a lot of people

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that I'd seen some things and hard things, but people

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don't delve into it. And I don't know why, but

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it's something about it that's almost sacred that you just

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didn't at that time, we didn't delve into it too much.

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Get aary feeling when I was in the area.

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I appreciate you coming up and for sharing. Is this

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a conversation that I would be able to use on

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my opics of the podcast?

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I have, sure, it's fine. I don't have any rights

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or anything over the story, and just it's a crazy

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woman from Texas, living in New Hampshire now in the

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mountains again, but haven't seen anything here.

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But yeah, you can use my story.

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Thank you, Thank you guys for I'm saying thank you

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and about the experiences, because I've really never talked to

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anyone other than like my son's and my close family

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about it. And the smell was it wasn't a sulfur smell,

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and I don't know if it was a smell from

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the horses or if it was a smell from a creature.

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I don't know which one it was. Of course, the

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horses smelled really bad, but I don't know if it

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was the horses or if it was the creature.

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I don't know.

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But I do know that something was running along that

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river bank because at night, you know, they would generate

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through the night and the water would go down really fast.

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I mean, fish get caught, and you know when the

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water drops, it goes down really fast. And so there

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was only a certain time period that would have had

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a chance to go down onto the river and then

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get back up into the mountains before the the water

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came back up. Absolutely, so there was just a small

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time period here.

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Well, Lisa, I appreciate you coming up. Thank you, You're welcome.

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Thank you, and you guys have a good night.

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Hi there, how's it going good?

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How are you good?

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Did you have a big fit experience you'd like to share?

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I did so.

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Have you ever heard of the Hotel California in Kentucky?

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Is that by a land between the lakes?

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It is?

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Yes.

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So I was out there with a couple of friends

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and we heard tree knocking and screams. At first we

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thought somebody was like messing with us because there was

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other people.

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In the area.

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But then later we meet them in the parking lot

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whenever we're getting ready to leave, and they said that

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they heard the exact same thing.

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Now there's been that's the big abandoned building area, right, yes, sir, okay,

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because there's been other stuff that's happened in the same area, right.

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Yeah, there was a supposed werewolf attack in the eighties.

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That's great.

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Yep, it's the same area. Wow. Wow, So you experienced

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tree knocking? Was there anything else weird going on at

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the same time?

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It smelled like two skunks dead. Whenever I was headed

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by towards the parking lot, towards my car, my friend

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looked at me, and he said, hey, do you smell that?

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And I'm like, yeah, it smells like a dead skunker

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animal or something. And then after the tree knocking, like

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five minutes later, we just hear the most blood curdling scream.

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Have you heard of any other recent things that have

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happened in that area besides the because I believe that

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the dog man attack was in the eighties, right.

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Yes, as far as I know, yes, there was a

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dog man attack in the eighties.

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Is that an area you go to pretty often to

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check it out?

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Actually, that was my first time going to the Hotel California.

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I didn't expect to hear what I thought was a

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sasquatch at the time. Either I was actually going to

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take pictures and I was actually going there to spray paint.

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But I went there to take some pictures too, and

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then my friends and I started hearing like banging on trees,

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and at first we just thought it was the other

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tourists like messing with us, And then we hear the

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most and then we hear the scream. And then later

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we relocate to like a because it was starting to

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get dark, So we go to like a beach and

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we see like footprints on the beach, like human footprints,

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but like they were like the size of my foot

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and my half of my friend's foot put together.

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What would what length? Would you say? That approximately would be.

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Fourteen if I had to guess, I'd say fourteen to

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fifteen inches.

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Gotcha?

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And you said that that was pretty recent, that that

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dis experience happened back in June, sir, June of twenty

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twenty five. Yeah, okay, wow, would you ever go back

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to that area again after experiencing that?

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If I'm by myself, no, if I'm with my friends, maybe, Well.

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I appreciate you you coming out to share what you experiences.

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It's a conversation I can share in my podcast as well.

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Oh yes, sir.

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All right, well, well, thank you for coming up. If

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you ever do experience anything else out there, please feel

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free to reach out.

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All right, yes, sir, thank you for your time.

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Thank you. Good stuff, good stuff. We're going from one

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side of the US to the other. Guys, Lisa, I

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just sent your request if you want to share your

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uncle's story there?

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Yeah, oh again, okay, Hello, Well, I was born in Gainesville, Texas.

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I don't know if you guys know where that is.

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But it's right on the Texas Oklahoma border. Red River.

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There used to be a tow bridge there and they

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called it the Old tow Bridge. Since gone. You know,

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there used to be riverboats that went up and down

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the Red River, and there's a lot of houses and

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things that were up in the hills that were abandoned

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after the you know, the riverboat stopped. And so my

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aunt and my uncle they would go and they'd go

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scavenging through those places and find a lot of things.

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But my uncle, he was my mom's older brother, and

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my mom was born in nineteen twenty seven, so he

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was like ten years older than my mom, so he

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would have been born in like nineteen twenty or somewhere

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in that area. And Uncle Bud was his name. He

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was old Sage Indian, he was, and we said Indian.

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I don't mean to offend anyone. They say Native American

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then now, But back when I grew up and we

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were Native Americans and we were Indians, no one said

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Native America. It wasn't a thing back then. But anyway,

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he told me a story about when he was down

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in the Red River area. There's a lake there called

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Leaper Lake where a bunch of rich people go and

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hunt and fish and things like that. And this was

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basically this doesn't happen anymore. But I was like thirteen

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years old at the time, and he was teaching me

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how to drive three on the tree. We're out just

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kind of rolling in the backwoods in Texas and Oklahoma,

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and he was telling me where to go and everything.

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We went, and we stopped on this bridge and it

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was an iron bridge, and he was a he had

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a purp just a very interesting man. He went to

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World War two, had a purple heart, and never he

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never talked about it in life. But I had my

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mom's Bible and I was going through the Bible and

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then I opened it up and there's his purple Heart

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award there. And but he said he and his friends

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were out on that bridge as teenagers did back in

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the nineteen twenties or thirties. And he said that they

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were there and the bridge was about at that time,

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about ten feet up like, and he said they were

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all on the bridge and they started hearing something down

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in the river by the river. And the Red River

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has quicksand, and I never that's one river. I'd never

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even go in the Red River and Trinity River really

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anywhere river anymore. But so they were on this bridge

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and he said that they kept hearing these things, like

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something was like throwing things down in the river bed.

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And they're still on the bridge at that time, and they're,

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you know, trying to figure out what it is. And

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then they were getting real quiet quiet, and he said

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that something walked up or I don't even know how

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to tell it, but he said that the thing was

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so tall that his eyes were over the bridge and

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his eyes were red. And this was way back before

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like flashlights. People didn't have flashlights back then. This was

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lanterns or you know, or nothing. But he told me

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that story, and you know, took me there and it's

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quite an experience. And I never thought that I would

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experience one like that. But no, I don't live in

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the area anymore. I'm in New Hampshire, someone had asked.

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But no, I don't live there. But I was born

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and raised in Gainesville, Texas. My mom my dad migrated

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from Italy and it's like, welcome to America. You're in

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the United States Army. And he was sent to a

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German pow camp and called Camp camp Hood and my

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mother was Native, and the reservation backed up to where

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the German peel W Camp was, and my mom and

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her friends would go look at the German men because

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they were so beautiful, and she ended up meeting my

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dad there at that peel W camp.

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Wow, that's an in story. My goodness. That area you

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were talking about, Like, is that around Thackerville.

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Yes, it's between Thackerville and the Texas Oklahoma border Red

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River right there.

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Yeah, a lot of.

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Nothing that area today, or I would say in the

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last ten years by bigfoot researchers. It's called purgatory because

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the encounters that come out of that area with Bigfoot

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are I would say, the most aggressive I've ever heard.

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I've interviewed a few people from that area and it's

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a very very sketchy area that I would not recommend

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anyone just go in by themselves. It's pretty wild.

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I wouldn't go in those woods, I mean. And also

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you had the goat Man that story that came from

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that area. Actually that was more around White Rock Lake

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and Fort Worth. But the goat Man was this creature

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that was half man, half goat, and it was just

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I don't know if it's true, but it was a

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fable when I was a kid, and back then wrestling

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was a big thing, and I remember we went to

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wrestling match and this guy was his thing was he

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was the goat Man. This was the time during like

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Andre the Giant and I don't know if you've ever

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heard of the van Erks the wrestlers, but anyway, the

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goat goat man was going to fight in this thing.

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And I remember sitting with my mom and dad, I'm like,

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for you years old, and I was just terrified. I'm like,

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is this man going to kill all of us? Or

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is this goat man going to take us all out?

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But he was a scary looking guy. He kind of

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looked like what Howard Hughes looked. Have you ever seen

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pictures of him before his death? He had the long

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nails and the long hair. That's what the goat men

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that I saw was the goat Man. And another place

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is Maxdell Bridge outside of Colleen, Texas. It washed away

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during the floods in July, but it was probably the

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most and my hair stands up and my voice trembles

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because it was a place that there was something definitely real.

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I don't know what it was, but it was definitely

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real and you could feel the dimensions. That's the only

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way I know how to say it. But the Maxdell Bridge,

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anyone knows it, you can look it up. It's not

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about Bigfoot. It's more about ghost and hauntings.

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There's there's so many weird stories from Texas and southern Oklahoma.

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But you had you had something about the goat Man Bridge.

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You were saying, yes, the the goat Man Bridge. Well

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they called it the Goatman Bridge. But there's different places

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that I've heard about it. But the one that we

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went to was in outside of Killeen, Texas, and just

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it was called Maxdelle Bridge and it is a bridge

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that borders a cemetery and it's been closed off. You

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can't you couldn't drive on the bridge. And my family

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and I we went out there because we had heard

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all these stories. And my son had told me a

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story that I thought he was crazy. But there's a

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story about a flying squirrel, but it wasn't spelt squirrel.

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It was more like a squire. And that's just something

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that my son saw and heard. I didn't, but he

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was pretty terrified at that place and he's like, let's

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go there. My old younger son was playing hockey in Austin,

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so we'd drive by there, you know, drove one hundred

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miles to take my son to hockey. And my son's like, well,

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we need to go there. So we weren't there one

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night after we got out of hockey practice, and it

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was a scary night and definitely something there. I don't

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know what, but something.

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Goodness. Thank you for sharing some stories from your family

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history as well. I appreciate that, Lisa. Is this second

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conversation one I can use as well?

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Sure, well you can use it well.

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Thank you for coming up again. I am gonna check

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in with I've got you know, when you know it,

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we all of a sudden, we got a ton of

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people and to come up and but I appreciate you

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coming up again.

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Thank you. Okay, I have a good one.

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Thank you.

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Lisa has some great stories. My goodness. Hey Wade, how

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are you man?

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Great?

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Great, it's good to be speaking with you again.

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Yeah.

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Absolutely. How are things out there?

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Oh? Well, you know, working too much as usual? You know,

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that's that's normal. I have to tell you about the

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museum I went to uh in Boring, Oregon. Okay, what

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a great resource of information. It's hard to articulate what

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a great thing, uh that that museum is. I got

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there and nobody was there, and then it got really packed.

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But what the information As you walk through they have

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casts and photos and uh and look cations and the

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stories of how they got the different casts in there.

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And it was absolutely fascinating. And I went on a

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motorcycle ride from Redmond, organ to Boring, which is a

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fantastic ride. And the two men that were working in

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there at the time were very decent people, very likable

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and approachable, and I kind of made a small mistake.

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I told him that we had him on the property

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for four years in Oregon when I was very young.

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And they were absolutely thrilled to speak to me about that.

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And we didn't agree to speak again about it, you know,

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and because they were busy and working at the time,

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and I can appreciate that. And you go there and

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they'll give you a pin and you put the pin

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on it where you had your sighting. And I was

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shocked at how many pins in the Pacific Northwest they

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had on their map. And it's a map of the

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entire United States, but it is absolutely stunning in some

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spots you can't put a pin anymore in that area.

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No, absolutely, yeah, that just in case people have made

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the connection. The North American Bigfoot Center is a really

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cool place. I was able to go there in July.

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It was awesome.

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It is absolutely awesome, and it's a place where you

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can bring your whole family, because certainly I was the

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only singular individual there. It was all families. Everybody was

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smiling and thrilled, and it was great vibes.

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Like I said, the.

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Two men working in there were wonderful. I understand. It's

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owned by Cliff. Forgive me, I don't remember his last.

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Name, the Cliff.

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Then yep, thank you, thank you. And I was kind

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of hoping to see him, and and they said no,

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he you know, he gets here, you know, kind of sporadically.

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And I said, well, as long as he gets there

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on pay day, everything's kosher, right, And then of course

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we had a good.

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Laugh, right.

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And and it's right off the freeway. It's so there's

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big signs on the highway, you know, uh, pretty easy

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to find and what I thought it might in all fairness,

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I kind of had to steal myself a little bit

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when I wrote up there to think you know, I'm

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almost sixty years old, and I'm not a gen z or.

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I don't get like with all due respect, I don't

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get like triggered, right.

462
00:28:52.000 --> 00:28:53.240
I really don't have those.

463
00:28:54.400 --> 00:28:57.200
But I had to really steal myself before I walked

464
00:28:57.240 --> 00:29:01.559
in there. And after a few minutes, I thought, you

465
00:29:01.599 --> 00:29:07.559
know what, this is fantastic. And let me qualify that,

466
00:29:08.880 --> 00:29:12.160
say that you have seen Bigfoot or a little bit,

467
00:29:12.400 --> 00:29:14.839
or you have seen them a couple of times or whatever,

468
00:29:15.799 --> 00:29:18.319
and you walk in there and you can and you

469
00:29:18.359 --> 00:29:23.319
can educate yourself. I'm thinking, okay, I'm not an idiot.

470
00:29:23.680 --> 00:29:27.880
That's exactly what I've seen. And it's okay to say, hey,

471
00:29:28.039 --> 00:29:30.319
you know what, I seen one of these things and

472
00:29:30.359 --> 00:29:33.839
it looks like this and there in this location is

473
00:29:33.839 --> 00:29:38.480
where it was, and it's a It is a fantastic

474
00:29:39.920 --> 00:29:44.160
tool for to walk in there and say, you know what,

475
00:29:44.559 --> 00:29:51.039
I'm not crazy and it's okay, and this uh, and

476
00:29:51.079 --> 00:29:55.599
you can educate yourself. Certainly. They have a profound amount

477
00:29:55.640 --> 00:30:00.200
of information as you've seen when you walk in there,

478
00:29:59.720 --> 00:30:04.720
and it's a lot to take in and so and

479
00:30:04.799 --> 00:30:06.920
of course I bought my girl a T shirt. I

480
00:30:07.039 --> 00:30:08.960
bring her back a T shirt you know, because you

481
00:30:09.000 --> 00:30:10.920
know the old saying, Hey, bring me back a T shirt.

482
00:30:11.000 --> 00:30:14.039
I splurged and bought one of the castings that they

483
00:30:14.079 --> 00:30:20.680
have in a clear glass case right there. They had

484
00:30:20.160 --> 00:30:24.480
a dozen, and of course it's not the original, and

485
00:30:24.559 --> 00:30:27.440
I understand that the original is being studied. It's off

486
00:30:28.359 --> 00:30:32.839
being looked at. And I didn't keep it because I've

487
00:30:32.839 --> 00:30:37.039
seen it before. I'm okay with that. But and I

488
00:30:37.079 --> 00:30:44.000
gave it to one of my peers who is very interested,

489
00:30:44.200 --> 00:30:46.400
and I'm glad. I had a trunk on the back

490
00:30:46.440 --> 00:30:51.319
of that BMW big enough for this cast. And it's

491
00:30:51.440 --> 00:30:56.319
just a it's a very visceral thing to hold in

492
00:30:56.359 --> 00:30:59.920
your hands. They put a little card in there before

493
00:30:59.880 --> 00:31:04.240
they wrapped it saying this cast was cast in this

494
00:31:04.400 --> 00:31:10.640
location on this date and it's a right foot but

495
00:31:12.160 --> 00:31:16.200
it is an uncanny thing. Even as a gift. I

496
00:31:16.240 --> 00:31:20.079
gave it to one of my friends that I respect

497
00:31:20.119 --> 00:31:24.200
a lot, but it's still there was that moment standing

498
00:31:24.200 --> 00:31:26.119
out in the parking lot holding this thing, even in

499
00:31:26.200 --> 00:31:31.079
the bubble wrap was it was quite jarring and it's

500
00:31:31.119 --> 00:31:35.599
a very visceral experience. So and at the end of

501
00:31:35.640 --> 00:31:41.079
the day I went in there had a fantastic time,

502
00:31:41.279 --> 00:31:45.079
lovely people, and I spent money there to help that

503
00:31:45.160 --> 00:31:46.440
place continue.

504
00:31:47.599 --> 00:31:52.000
It's worth it. It is absolutely worth it to support them.

505
00:31:52.279 --> 00:31:52.400
You know.

506
00:31:52.480 --> 00:31:55.920
I got to ask you, was it hard being in

507
00:31:56.039 --> 00:31:59.880
front of Murphy like that because.

508
00:31:59.599 --> 00:32:03.640
Of your his No, Murphy kind of looked like the

509
00:32:03.720 --> 00:32:06.599
large female that I was in practice of seeing at

510
00:32:06.680 --> 00:32:10.400
least maybe once a month, sometimes once every two months.

511
00:32:11.039 --> 00:32:14.000
That was she was a little shorter than the male

512
00:32:14.079 --> 00:32:18.000
and blockie, and that's what Murphy looked like. And but

513
00:32:18.160 --> 00:32:23.079
she was she was no problem. She always the girl.

514
00:32:23.200 --> 00:32:26.720
My sister's seen her more often than any of the

515
00:32:27.200 --> 00:32:31.240
two younger ones or the large male. So but there

516
00:32:31.359 --> 00:32:33.880
was a there was a moment of pause before I

517
00:32:33.920 --> 00:32:37.440
stepped through that doorway past the countertop where I really

518
00:32:37.440 --> 00:32:38.680
had to steal myself.

519
00:32:40.240 --> 00:32:43.839
The crazy thing about that area is that it is

520
00:32:43.880 --> 00:32:49.240
so close to some really really high activity bigfoot locations,

521
00:32:49.680 --> 00:32:50.039
you know.

522
00:32:51.720 --> 00:32:54.839
And that's exactly what they told me. For Betam and

523
00:32:55.200 --> 00:33:01.640
any rational person, once you get past the UH reservation

524
00:33:01.839 --> 00:33:04.440
and you start hit the tree line and start going

525
00:33:04.480 --> 00:33:09.559
over mount Hood, you're like, okay, well yeah, that's absolutely

526
00:33:09.839 --> 00:33:12.039
absolutely wow.

527
00:33:12.599 --> 00:33:14.079
Uh it is.

528
00:33:14.279 --> 00:33:16.440
It's always a pleasure to talk to you, and I'm

529
00:33:16.480 --> 00:33:20.960
glad that you're doing well. Is this a Is this

530
00:33:20.960 --> 00:33:29.160
a conversation I can use for the show? If if I.

531
00:33:26.559 --> 00:33:27.599
I would be delighted.

532
00:33:28.000 --> 00:33:30.079
Okay, okay, well thank you for coming up.

533
00:33:31.279 --> 00:33:35.400
Yeah, you're you're doing great on your your podcast, and uh,

534
00:33:35.480 --> 00:33:37.440
I jump on whenever I can.

535
00:33:38.920 --> 00:33:41.079
Always good to talk to you. We'll we'll connect in

536
00:33:41.119 --> 00:33:44.480
the future as well. You have a good one, man, Absolutely,

537
00:33:44.519 --> 00:33:52.000
you have a good evening. Bye bye, Hey Scott, how

538
00:33:52.039 --> 00:33:52.559
are you, sir?

539
00:33:52.960 --> 00:33:53.400
Hey man?

540
00:33:53.440 --> 00:33:54.160
What's the good word?

541
00:33:54.200 --> 00:33:54.880
What's the good word?

542
00:33:54.960 --> 00:33:58.559
So here's the deal. All right, here's what I know.

543
00:33:58.839 --> 00:34:05.960
So, uh, the fifty eight lifetime s Pacific Northwest Lifetime

544
00:34:06.039 --> 00:34:11.719
Hunter never seen anything, never heard anything, brothers never seen anything,

545
00:34:11.800 --> 00:34:14.639
really heard anything. But that was more down in the

546
00:34:14.679 --> 00:34:21.280
lower Willhamotte Valley in Oregon, Okay. And so then I

547
00:34:21.480 --> 00:34:25.639
him getting a job in nineteen ninety matter of fact,

548
00:34:26.519 --> 00:34:33.239
in Stevenson, and that Stevenson is in Skimania County, Okay.

549
00:34:33.400 --> 00:34:37.960
And I was in radio equipment, and I got to

550
00:34:38.119 --> 00:34:44.159
know all these really not old but these old enforcement

551
00:34:44.400 --> 00:34:49.360
deputies that worked for the county sheriff and and me,

552
00:34:49.679 --> 00:34:52.360
you know, and they had all they were all twenty

553
00:34:52.480 --> 00:34:56.360
twenty five year plus guys, you know, And if you

554
00:34:56.400 --> 00:35:02.159
get to know these guys, they're very factual, meaning short

555
00:35:02.159 --> 00:35:06.159
of if they don't see it, it didn't happen. If

556
00:35:06.199 --> 00:35:10.280
they don't if it's not on film, it didn't happen.

557
00:35:10.760 --> 00:35:13.480
They're very literal, all of them.

558
00:35:13.480 --> 00:35:13.679
You know.

559
00:35:13.800 --> 00:35:18.800
And and you know, and in that group that they

560
00:35:18.840 --> 00:35:20.840
were in, not me, but what they were in, you know,

561
00:35:20.880 --> 00:35:23.920
And you never want to spout out something odd, you know,

562
00:35:24.079 --> 00:35:27.320
like I saw UFOs, which they none of them believe.

563
00:35:27.760 --> 00:35:31.119
That's another thing that they're very kind of what the

564
00:35:31.119 --> 00:35:32.280
ones that I talked.

565
00:35:32.000 --> 00:35:33.760
To didn't believe in. But but.

566
00:35:35.480 --> 00:35:37.400
The one thing that they did say is this, and

567
00:35:37.440 --> 00:35:39.719
it was very interesting. I have a few other stories

568
00:35:39.760 --> 00:35:44.320
about the the big foot thing is they all have

569
00:35:44.440 --> 00:35:46.199
the same the ones that I talk they all have

570
00:35:46.280 --> 00:35:49.760
the same similar stories and never had a dead one.

571
00:35:50.119 --> 00:35:50.440
Look.

572
00:35:51.920 --> 00:35:55.159
But they were driving along way up high in the

573
00:35:55.199 --> 00:35:58.440
county it was called North County, and they would like

574
00:35:58.760 --> 00:36:01.880
catch something they would catch so something like what like

575
00:36:02.000 --> 00:36:06.199
something was like, hey, they saw us a flash and

576
00:36:06.239 --> 00:36:09.039
it and it was never a confirmed thing, and that

577
00:36:09.199 --> 00:36:12.239
was always what it was. And then even during that time,

578
00:36:13.920 --> 00:36:18.400
I remember there were three Native Americans up in the

579
00:36:18.440 --> 00:36:21.360
county next to uh Skiminia, which is I can't even

580
00:36:21.400 --> 00:36:23.960
remember what it was. And they had said that that

581
00:36:24.079 --> 00:36:27.320
they had trapped actually had trapped one in National and

582
00:36:27.280 --> 00:36:30.280
I remember National gig Ray. It was a huge, big deal.

583
00:36:30.320 --> 00:36:33.159
And then it turned out that it had been nothing.

584
00:36:33.360 --> 00:36:38.280
But there are It's a weird thing up there in

585
00:36:38.320 --> 00:36:39.400
Scamania County.

586
00:36:40.679 --> 00:36:41.079
It is.

587
00:36:41.639 --> 00:36:44.440
You know, the things I've heard out of Skamania County

588
00:36:44.480 --> 00:36:47.920
are absolutely wild, because you gotta you know, people have

589
00:36:47.960 --> 00:36:51.320
to realize if you don't know the area you're talking

590
00:36:51.320 --> 00:36:54.599
about from down the Columbia River, you know, all the

591
00:36:54.639 --> 00:36:58.440
way up to Mount Saint Helens and a little bit

592
00:36:58.679 --> 00:37:01.400
north of it. It is just it's a crazy amount

593
00:37:01.480 --> 00:37:02.320
of area.

594
00:37:02.960 --> 00:37:08.480
And it is huge. And that's one thing that people

595
00:37:08.519 --> 00:37:13.840
don't realize is just how big it is. It's enormous.

596
00:37:14.920 --> 00:37:18.920
But you know, and this is an odd, a different,

597
00:37:19.400 --> 00:37:23.239
an odd story of how this item got here. In

598
00:37:23.400 --> 00:37:27.519
nineteen ninety matter of fact, people were that was like

599
00:37:28.159 --> 00:37:30.760
people were kind of into like extreme camping. You know,

600
00:37:30.800 --> 00:37:33.920
you'd go out and camp for like two weeks, like

601
00:37:33.920 --> 00:37:36.880
like fifteen miles and you know that that kind of

602
00:37:36.920 --> 00:37:39.760
stuff well, I got to know some other guy and

603
00:37:39.800 --> 00:37:42.800
he was like, hey, man, I went on this extreme camp,

604
00:37:42.880 --> 00:37:46.039
you know, and I found something cool. You know. I'm like, well,

605
00:37:46.039 --> 00:37:46.559
what is it?

606
00:37:46.599 --> 00:37:46.800
You know?

607
00:37:46.840 --> 00:37:51.599
And he had found and I mean way out in

608
00:37:51.679 --> 00:37:54.719
the middle. We're like like fifty miles in the middle

609
00:37:54.719 --> 00:37:58.239
of he found a true and I looked it up

610
00:37:58.400 --> 00:38:03.280
with it stills the serial numbers, a true World War

611
00:38:03.400 --> 00:38:09.679
One American dagger just stoved in the ground. The wood

612
00:38:09.719 --> 00:38:14.320
handles had rotted away, and it was just sitting there.

613
00:38:14.880 --> 00:38:19.480
And they were out there and uh, I mean, I

614
00:38:19.480 --> 00:38:23.679
mean in the middle of nowhere. And he found that.

615
00:38:23.800 --> 00:38:27.719
He was just stunned, It's like and so I'm like, well,

616
00:38:27.800 --> 00:38:29.880
how on earth? So I got a hold of the

617
00:38:29.960 --> 00:38:33.599
county guys and said, well, how is the military out there?

618
00:38:33.599 --> 00:38:37.039
And Lyric heck, no, nothing's out there. And so I

619
00:38:37.079 --> 00:38:42.760
actually then I sent some guys that military people that

620
00:38:43.039 --> 00:38:46.280
knew like these serial numbers. And it was truly it

621
00:38:46.320 --> 00:38:50.559
was a World War One US bayonet that someone had

622
00:38:50.639 --> 00:38:54.239
stuck out there and and so and even better. Uh,

623
00:38:55.000 --> 00:38:59.000
when I left in ninety two, my friend gave me

624
00:38:59.079 --> 00:39:03.039
the bayonet and I I still have it, and I

625
00:39:03.079 --> 00:39:07.079
still have it and so what I'm getting at too,

626
00:39:08.559 --> 00:39:14.679
you don't know what's out there. I mean, I just

627
00:39:14.800 --> 00:39:19.639
it's like you know and you just don't know. Man.

628
00:39:19.760 --> 00:39:22.679
I'm just I know I'm rambling on, but uh, you know,

629
00:39:22.719 --> 00:39:25.000
I've seen your show, and uh I we want always

630
00:39:25.079 --> 00:39:26.320
kind of want to get on and tell you that

631
00:39:26.440 --> 00:39:27.320
tell you what I knew.

632
00:39:29.039 --> 00:39:32.599
But I appreciate you doing so. I mean, there's so

633
00:39:32.760 --> 00:39:36.920
many I mean, we've both we both heard the wild

634
00:39:37.000 --> 00:39:40.800
stuff about this this area of the legends, and certain

635
00:39:40.840 --> 00:39:45.679
areas are crazier than others in Skamania maybe, and it's

636
00:39:45.760 --> 00:39:48.239
just it is a wild area. I appreciate you coming

637
00:39:48.320 --> 00:39:52.079
up and sharing what you what you heard over the years.

638
00:39:52.159 --> 00:39:53.039
It does help.

639
00:39:53.840 --> 00:39:57.440
They're convinced there's something. You know, it's just not they

640
00:39:57.559 --> 00:40:00.440
but they're they're they're just not a not They're just

641
00:40:00.519 --> 00:40:03.480
not there's not enough proof for them to say, yeah,

642
00:40:03.519 --> 00:40:05.760
we've seen it. But the funny thing is it was

643
00:40:05.880 --> 00:40:10.000
there was multiple of them, of different kinds of guys too.

644
00:40:10.679 --> 00:40:12.760
You know, you might have like the tough guy over there,

645
00:40:12.760 --> 00:40:14.880
and you might have an athletic one, and they all

646
00:40:14.960 --> 00:40:17.039
kind of have the same freaking in which we always

647
00:40:17.039 --> 00:40:20.159
thought was odd. But uh, great show, dude. You got

648
00:40:20.159 --> 00:40:21.920
a lot other people who want to get on and

649
00:40:22.280 --> 00:40:24.079
but nice chatting with you.

650
00:40:24.800 --> 00:40:27.280
Hey, yeah, is this a conversation I can use on

651
00:40:27.280 --> 00:40:28.039
the show as well?

652
00:40:28.079 --> 00:40:28.400
Scott?

653
00:40:28.880 --> 00:40:29.119
Yeah?

654
00:40:29.159 --> 00:40:31.920
Man, all right, sir, well thank you for coming up.

655
00:40:31.960 --> 00:40:37.159
I appreciate it. All right, dude, talk to you. Good stuff.

656
00:40:37.239 --> 00:40:37.440
Man.

657
00:40:37.559 --> 00:40:39.400
Oh, Scott's a good guy from up there. You can

658
00:40:39.440 --> 00:40:41.960
tell Hey, say, Shasha, how are you?

659
00:40:42.440 --> 00:40:43.119
I am nervous?

660
00:40:44.199 --> 00:40:44.920
Oh you're good?

661
00:40:47.360 --> 00:40:47.760
Okay?

662
00:40:49.280 --> 00:40:53.039
Oh so I can't hear myself the first time I've

663
00:40:53.039 --> 00:40:53.960
ever been live.

664
00:40:55.239 --> 00:40:56.400
On TikTok you go.

665
00:40:57.000 --> 00:40:58.480
Okay, all right.

666
00:40:58.559 --> 00:41:02.360
So I'm from Long Is in New York, very flat,

667
00:41:03.159 --> 00:41:05.920
surrounded by water. Nothing going on here, maybe the occasional

668
00:41:06.639 --> 00:41:10.159
red Fox here and there. This is in twenty fifteen.

669
00:41:10.199 --> 00:41:13.599
I has got a job offer to go to Washington

670
00:41:13.719 --> 00:41:22.079
State to help build a restaurant with people that lived

671
00:41:22.079 --> 00:41:30.760
in Washington State. In Aberdeen. Actually, and so we met

672
00:41:30.760 --> 00:41:33.639
the husband and wife became very good friends, and they

673
00:41:33.679 --> 00:41:35.599
were showing us around Washington all the time.

674
00:41:35.880 --> 00:41:36.519
Great people.

675
00:41:38.960 --> 00:41:45.960
The wife of the restaurant owner, she's pretty pretty powerful woman.

676
00:41:46.239 --> 00:41:50.719
So anyway, so she lives on Lake Quinault in Washington State.

677
00:41:52.159 --> 00:41:55.599
So she's you know, I brought up the subject of

678
00:41:55.599 --> 00:41:58.440
Bigfoot because I was always interested because I'm a child

679
00:41:58.440 --> 00:42:01.320
of the seventies when Bogie Creek came out, and me

680
00:42:01.360 --> 00:42:04.400
and my sisters were always like a little freaked out

681
00:42:04.440 --> 00:42:10.400
by it, you know, and interested. So I had dropped

682
00:42:10.440 --> 00:42:13.840
my husband off at Seattle Airport and she invited me

683
00:42:13.920 --> 00:42:17.000
up to Quinna for dinner. And I had had her

684
00:42:17.079 --> 00:42:20.199
adopted daughter with me, who was seven, and my daughter

685
00:42:20.239 --> 00:42:23.960
who was eleven at the time, and we were driving

686
00:42:24.039 --> 00:42:27.719
up Highway one on one. It was like five o'clock,

687
00:42:29.559 --> 00:42:31.239
so I was just starting to go down a little

688
00:42:31.239 --> 00:42:36.239
bit of lightly raining and it was, like I said,

689
00:42:36.320 --> 00:42:37.840
Highway one on one. I don't know if you've been

690
00:42:37.880 --> 00:42:41.800
on that road. It's very the logging road. It's you know,

691
00:42:41.840 --> 00:42:44.400
I'm driving up there my New York plates, going really slow,

692
00:42:44.639 --> 00:42:51.599
very intimidated. And I'm driving and I was actually on

693
00:42:51.639 --> 00:42:53.480
the phone with my friend from New York, and I

694
00:42:53.519 --> 00:42:56.559
was on the speakerphone with her, and the two kids

695
00:42:56.599 --> 00:42:59.880
are in the back of my niece on Morano and

696
00:43:00.000 --> 00:43:03.679
and I noticed something that.

697
00:43:03.599 --> 00:43:05.760
Just didn't look looked out of place.

698
00:43:07.400 --> 00:43:14.320
With my peripheral vision on my right hand side.

699
00:43:12.400 --> 00:43:14.159
I was like, what was that?

700
00:43:14.320 --> 00:43:17.840
It was like enormous and with and it was very

701
00:43:17.960 --> 00:43:23.679
very you know, textured and reddish. So I took my

702
00:43:23.719 --> 00:43:27.360
foot up the gas and I was gonna like dismiss

703
00:43:27.400 --> 00:43:30.960
it because I thought I was just seeing something, you know,

704
00:43:31.079 --> 00:43:34.400
but I saw like just in my windshield.

705
00:43:35.480 --> 00:43:37.920
Like his torso.

706
00:43:39.079 --> 00:43:43.440
So I took my foot off the gas and I

707
00:43:43.519 --> 00:43:45.760
was gonna dismiss it. And I looked in my rear

708
00:43:45.840 --> 00:43:50.079
view mirror and my daughter's eyes were as big as

709
00:43:50.280 --> 00:43:55.840
sauces and she said, gasped, She said, Mom, did you

710
00:43:55.920 --> 00:43:56.239
see that?

711
00:43:57.519 --> 00:44:01.440
And I just wanted to. I guess she is just she.

712
00:44:01.480 --> 00:44:05.519
Must have sare like more than I did. So we

713
00:44:05.559 --> 00:44:09.320
get up to Lake Quanaut, and of course my friend

714
00:44:09.360 --> 00:44:13.400
is one hundred percent Native, and she did not dismiss it.

715
00:44:13.559 --> 00:44:17.519
She said she has smelt it on the reservation. But

716
00:44:17.639 --> 00:44:25.480
in Native American folklore they say never to turn around

717
00:44:25.519 --> 00:44:28.440
or look at it, she said, but she has smelt it.

718
00:44:29.079 --> 00:44:31.039
And she's like, well, I guess you're not going home tonight.

719
00:44:31.079 --> 00:44:34.559
I'm like, no, I'm staying in your place now. And

720
00:44:34.639 --> 00:44:38.840
at the time, my daughter, who's very chatty, just shut down.

721
00:44:39.239 --> 00:44:42.639
She just just shut down. Would not talk about it.

722
00:44:43.519 --> 00:44:46.519
So now the next day we go home and I

723
00:44:46.639 --> 00:44:50.920
sat down quiet, quietly with her, and she told me,

724
00:44:53.559 --> 00:44:56.440
on the left side, whatever I saw with my right

725
00:44:56.679 --> 00:44:58.880
and my peripheral vision in my windshield, I just saw

726
00:44:58.880 --> 00:45:00.199
it like it's torso.

727
00:45:01.639 --> 00:45:04.480
Excuse me, she said.

728
00:45:04.880 --> 00:45:07.039
On the left hand side, there were two of them,

729
00:45:08.400 --> 00:45:12.639
and she thought they were hunters at first, she says,

730
00:45:12.679 --> 00:45:16.719
but it turned around and it looked at her, and

731
00:45:16.800 --> 00:45:19.400
she said, mommy, I saw it soul like.

732
00:45:19.519 --> 00:45:21.639
That was the words of an eleven year old.

733
00:45:21.800 --> 00:45:27.280
Which was pretty let me get out, dogs barking, let

734
00:45:27.360 --> 00:45:28.000
me go in here?

735
00:45:30.119 --> 00:45:33.880
So what else?

736
00:45:34.599 --> 00:45:37.119
So it was just, you know, I'm I'm a little nervous.

737
00:45:37.159 --> 00:45:39.000
Told the story and it was like, you know, ten

738
00:45:39.079 --> 00:45:47.559
years ago. But then you know, asking around and asking

739
00:45:47.719 --> 00:45:52.519
conservationists men and talking to police. They were like, you're

740
00:45:52.519 --> 00:45:55.800
not the first person to have an encounter here, you know,

741
00:45:55.840 --> 00:45:59.760
and they appreciated the story. But I'm my life as

742
00:45:59.800 --> 00:46:05.960
ever has changed since that that that creature exists.

743
00:46:08.280 --> 00:46:11.960
Didn't I want to I want to clarify something. Sure,

744
00:46:12.800 --> 00:46:15.480
so you said that your daughter said that she saw

745
00:46:15.519 --> 00:46:16.079
it soul.

746
00:46:17.039 --> 00:46:19.519
That's what she said. It looked, she said it looked

747
00:46:19.559 --> 00:46:20.079
at her.

748
00:46:20.679 --> 00:46:25.440
Now there was two on apparently on her side, which

749
00:46:25.480 --> 00:46:26.480
was my driver's side.

750
00:46:26.599 --> 00:46:28.840
I was looking to my right when I saw.

751
00:46:28.840 --> 00:46:36.440
That that that torso in the in my windshield. So

752
00:46:36.519 --> 00:46:39.639
when I was looking briefly to the right, she was

753
00:46:39.679 --> 00:46:44.719
looking left. So there must have been three of them.

754
00:46:44.880 --> 00:46:48.199
Like maybe it was just a road crossing and it

755
00:46:48.360 --> 00:46:51.800
hurt my car and it stopped. The third didn't craws

756
00:46:51.920 --> 00:46:55.440
you know whatever. But she said, yeah, she said, it

757
00:46:55.519 --> 00:46:59.159
turned its head and it looked right dead at her.

758
00:46:59.360 --> 00:47:02.880
She said, and it's his eyes were just black. And

759
00:47:02.920 --> 00:47:05.320
she said, and I saw it soul. That Those were

760
00:47:05.400 --> 00:47:07.559
her words of an eleven year old. I saw it soul.

761
00:47:09.280 --> 00:47:12.360
That is such an interesting way to put it. I've

762
00:47:12.400 --> 00:47:15.320
never had anyone say that, I would be it would

763
00:47:15.360 --> 00:47:17.840
be really interesting. I don't know if you've ever asked

764
00:47:17.840 --> 00:47:20.840
her what she meant by that statement.

765
00:47:23.559 --> 00:47:29.639
I think I think she almost had like a maybe

766
00:47:29.679 --> 00:47:36.000
like almost like a telepathic encounter, because she she got

767
00:47:36.400 --> 00:47:37.920
she had said she could look.

768
00:47:37.719 --> 00:47:39.119
At them, not like I did.

769
00:47:39.159 --> 00:47:42.559
I just got like I just got a periphial, you know,

770
00:47:42.719 --> 00:47:45.800
textured something I was like because at first I thought

771
00:47:45.800 --> 00:47:48.159
it was a telephone pole and I was like, that's.

772
00:47:47.920 --> 00:47:52.000
Too thick, it's too broad, you know, And like I.

773
00:47:51.920 --> 00:47:54.760
Said, I was going to dismiss it until my daughter said.

774
00:47:54.599 --> 00:47:56.400
Mom, did you see that?

775
00:47:57.760 --> 00:48:00.800
And I was like, oh, so I thought she was

776
00:48:00.840 --> 00:48:02.599
seeing the one that I was looking at, But they

777
00:48:02.599 --> 00:48:05.119
were on the opposite side of the road, the ones

778
00:48:05.119 --> 00:48:09.519
that she saw. And she's twenty one years old right now.

779
00:48:11.000 --> 00:48:13.880
And I always figured should come out one day and say, ma,

780
00:48:13.960 --> 00:48:19.159
I was joking around, but she tells that story to everybody,

781
00:48:19.239 --> 00:48:23.639
so do I for years and years. And it was

782
00:48:23.880 --> 00:48:28.760
it was incredible, incredible, incredible.

783
00:48:28.360 --> 00:48:31.719
And it was highway. It was mile marker one fourteen.

784
00:48:31.800 --> 00:48:32.599
I'll never forget that.

785
00:48:32.760 --> 00:48:33.039
Wow.

786
00:48:33.159 --> 00:48:35.840
She you know, the exact mile marker as well.

787
00:48:36.639 --> 00:48:40.039
Really awesome because as I drove away, I said, just

788
00:48:40.079 --> 00:48:42.840
in case something happens, I need to know. My grandfather

789
00:48:42.840 --> 00:48:45.280
always told me not look at your mile markers when

790
00:48:45.280 --> 00:48:45.840
you're traveling.

791
00:48:46.519 --> 00:48:47.800
Yep, so.

792
00:48:49.199 --> 00:48:51.360
And I looked it up. I think it's humped Tulips.

793
00:48:51.760 --> 00:48:52.840
I think that's the city.

794
00:48:53.760 --> 00:48:57.400
Okay, how has this affected you since.

795
00:49:00.360 --> 00:49:02.760
Well, I'm the youngest of four kids, you know, I

796
00:49:02.760 --> 00:49:06.280
have three older sisters. And they were like, I mean,

797
00:49:06.320 --> 00:49:08.599
I think everybody believes me. I think, you know, they're like,

798
00:49:08.639 --> 00:49:12.159
tell you a story, tell your story.

799
00:49:13.000 --> 00:49:13.920
It has affected me.

800
00:49:14.039 --> 00:49:18.039
I became a I've become a I mean every podcast

801
00:49:18.079 --> 00:49:20.320
that's out there, every book, every story I read.

802
00:49:22.559 --> 00:49:27.519
I was just like, it's fascinating. It's it's really fascinating.

803
00:49:27.559 --> 00:49:30.280
And like I said, I was always waiting for my

804
00:49:30.360 --> 00:49:31.960
daughter to say, oh, it's just kidding around.

805
00:49:31.960 --> 00:49:35.039
But she told the teacher at school when she came.

806
00:49:34.960 --> 00:49:37.559
Back to New York because we moved back a year later,

807
00:49:39.559 --> 00:49:42.760
and but she really couldn't speak for days, which is

808
00:49:43.000 --> 00:49:46.000
like I said, my daughter is very gabby, and she

809
00:49:46.199 --> 00:49:47.159
just could not.

810
00:49:48.199 --> 00:49:48.880
She shut down.

811
00:49:49.239 --> 00:49:53.119
She shut down for a while, like you know, I

812
00:49:53.119 --> 00:49:55.400
guess she was felt a little shameful, I don't know,

813
00:49:56.440 --> 00:49:58.159
or just maybe in shock.

814
00:49:59.679 --> 00:49:59.880
You know.

815
00:50:00.159 --> 00:50:02.239
That night she's like, we're not driving home mom. I'm like, no,

816
00:50:02.320 --> 00:50:03.320
I'm not going to at home?

817
00:50:03.519 --> 00:50:03.719
Right.

818
00:50:04.280 --> 00:50:07.559
Yeah, I don't blame yet at all. What what? What

819
00:50:07.639 --> 00:50:10.400
a fascinating encounter because both of you were able to

820
00:50:10.440 --> 00:50:15.760
have a citing Yeah, it's it's very very unique. And

821
00:50:15.960 --> 00:50:17.639
you know, I want to say thank you so much

822
00:50:17.679 --> 00:50:20.159
for sharing what you experienced.

823
00:50:20.320 --> 00:50:21.119
We welcome.

824
00:50:22.480 --> 00:50:26.079
Is this a conversation that that I can use on

825
00:50:26.119 --> 00:50:32.360
my Bigfoot podcast that I have absolutely yes, okay, thank you,

826
00:50:32.480 --> 00:50:34.800
thank you for that. Well, I appreciate you coming up now,

827
00:50:35.159 --> 00:50:43.719
thank you. But what an account looks like? That area

828
00:50:43.880 --> 00:50:47.920
she's talking about is about halfway between Quinnall and Aberdeen

829
00:50:48.639 --> 00:50:53.119
and it is a very very small community, about two

830
00:50:53.159 --> 00:50:57.239
hundred and thirty six individuals. Hey, Duel, how are you

831
00:50:58.559 --> 00:51:02.119
hey good? How are you just having a good night

832
00:51:02.199 --> 00:51:02.760
hanging out?

833
00:51:03.480 --> 00:51:05.760
Yeah? I always love hearing all the stories.

834
00:51:08.039 --> 00:51:08.559
Same here.

835
00:51:08.800 --> 00:51:11.000
I'm kind of one of those that I feel kind

836
00:51:11.000 --> 00:51:14.960
of either blessed or cursed because I've had a couple

837
00:51:14.960 --> 00:51:17.840
of encounters. I shared one with you, which was the

838
00:51:17.840 --> 00:51:20.760
one where I actually had we actually had a visual

839
00:51:20.800 --> 00:51:27.599
sighting my entire family in southeast Georgia. Yep, but actually

840
00:51:28.199 --> 00:51:33.119
i've had in that same area. This is in Yeah,

841
00:51:35.440 --> 00:51:38.159
it's near I won't say near, it's it's actually our

842
00:51:38.239 --> 00:51:41.960
hunting property is in Kite, Georgia, which is just a

843
00:51:41.960 --> 00:51:46.559
little bit north or yeah, northeast of Adrian, Georgia, which

844
00:51:46.599 --> 00:51:49.840
is just off of by sixteen. We had the visual

845
00:51:49.920 --> 00:51:56.400
sighting and this occurred, oh gosh, probably about four years ago.

846
00:51:57.760 --> 00:52:03.320
Where my both my boys are you know, they're grown

847
00:52:03.360 --> 00:52:06.239
that oh I say grown, they're twenty three and twenty eight.

848
00:52:06.280 --> 00:52:08.280
But they were with me. We were down there at

849
00:52:08.280 --> 00:52:11.400
our hunting property and one night goofing a round. We

850
00:52:11.440 --> 00:52:14.800
had all been watching you know, the oh gosh, what

851
00:52:14.960 --> 00:52:22.679
was the Bigfoot show? The one with oh gosh, like

852
00:52:22.719 --> 00:52:26.000
driving bok Foot finding big Foot? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah

853
00:52:26.559 --> 00:52:29.920
yeah yeah. And then when I say rule, there's probably tight.

854
00:52:30.000 --> 00:52:33.519
Georgia probably has five hundred people in the in that

855
00:52:34.079 --> 00:52:41.119
area as far as residents, Adrian probably you know, eighteen hundred.

856
00:52:42.079 --> 00:52:46.519
So very very rural. I mean we hunt on three

857
00:52:46.519 --> 00:52:49.079
different tracks of land that we have that are are

858
00:52:49.159 --> 00:52:54.559
that we have a permission to that are seventy eight acres,

859
00:52:54.880 --> 00:52:59.039
another one's seventy nine and the other one's over split

860
00:52:59.079 --> 00:53:02.280
between two tracks exit back to back that are probably

861
00:53:02.400 --> 00:53:05.280
right around two hundred acres. And we've had some unusual

862
00:53:05.280 --> 00:53:09.679
things happen, but this this one occasion was probably the

863
00:53:10.119 --> 00:53:12.960
weirdest thing we've ever had. As far as being out there,

864
00:53:12.960 --> 00:53:16.679
We've always heard unusual alcols. You know, you hear the

865
00:53:16.719 --> 00:53:20.960
bobcat screams, coyote yells and kind of get just you

866
00:53:21.039 --> 00:53:23.320
just get used to it, but it sets you on edge.

867
00:53:23.360 --> 00:53:25.440
But one night we were sitting on this little stoop

868
00:53:25.480 --> 00:53:28.360
of this little an old house built back in the

869
00:53:28.360 --> 00:53:34.000
fifties and kidding around. I was kidding with my oldest son,

870
00:53:34.119 --> 00:53:36.480
and he's like, I'm going to do one of those

871
00:53:36.639 --> 00:53:41.239
those whoops. I at first was kind of reluctant. I

872
00:53:41.280 --> 00:53:46.679
was like, okay, yeah, okay, whatever, And he he did this,

873
00:53:47.719 --> 00:53:51.159
I would say, more of a guttural whoop that was

874
00:53:51.320 --> 00:53:55.159
just like better than anything I could have done. I mean,

875
00:53:55.199 --> 00:53:59.360
I mimicked the guys from you know, from the Bigfoot show,

876
00:53:59.400 --> 00:54:03.920
and we were getting around, but he did his and

877
00:54:05.920 --> 00:54:08.480
from across and when I say across the road, the

878
00:54:08.519 --> 00:54:12.079
house sits probably one hundred yards from the road. There's

879
00:54:12.119 --> 00:54:13.880
a pond to the right, and then it's nothing but

880
00:54:13.920 --> 00:54:15.960
woods behind us that flows all the way down to

881
00:54:16.039 --> 00:54:23.000
a river. And we heard something start to crash through

882
00:54:23.000 --> 00:54:28.639
the woods coming up towards us. And when I say crash,

883
00:54:28.719 --> 00:54:33.320
I mean the intensity of what we heard, like limbs

884
00:54:33.360 --> 00:54:38.039
breaking and almost like you could hear a bipedal motion

885
00:54:38.719 --> 00:54:44.800
of stomping. Is it ran towards us. It literally came

886
00:54:44.920 --> 00:54:49.639
up to the road, sits up on an embankment and

887
00:54:50.599 --> 00:54:53.679
it sounded like you could hear it just land onto

888
00:54:53.760 --> 00:55:03.960
the road side and it just had this piercing kind

889
00:55:03.960 --> 00:55:07.280
of I don't know if screams the right word or yell,

890
00:55:08.239 --> 00:55:14.039
but it just let out this horrendous yell or it

891
00:55:14.079 --> 00:55:16.239
was not a whoop, It was more of a screen.

892
00:55:17.719 --> 00:55:24.239
And the three of us froze kind of sitting there wondering, okay,

893
00:55:24.480 --> 00:55:29.800
whether we just call up, and the entire evening it

894
00:55:29.840 --> 00:55:32.920
felt like we were being just surrounded. I mean like

895
00:55:32.960 --> 00:55:36.519
you could hear movement on two different sides of the house.

896
00:55:36.760 --> 00:55:38.559
Of course, we couldn't hear anything behind us because we're

897
00:55:38.559 --> 00:55:41.000
sitting on the front stoop of this little bitty home,

898
00:55:41.880 --> 00:55:47.760
but you could hear movement going through and how the

899
00:55:47.760 --> 00:55:50.199
best way to describe this property is of course in

900
00:55:50.320 --> 00:55:53.559
South Georgia, so it's nothing but tall timber and tall pines.

901
00:55:54.039 --> 00:55:58.400
It's not the butt pine trees that was just literally

902
00:55:58.519 --> 00:56:04.199
devastated this past year by Hurricane Milton and Helene. But

903
00:56:05.000 --> 00:56:09.039
you could hear it come up between us and the pond,

904
00:56:09.440 --> 00:56:15.119
and we kept hearing I wouldn't say it sounded more

905
00:56:15.159 --> 00:56:20.199
like a grunt, but you could hear movement coming up

906
00:56:20.239 --> 00:56:25.079
each side of us and to the left facing the road.

907
00:56:25.119 --> 00:56:28.360
To the left is an old creek bed that in

908
00:56:29.239 --> 00:56:32.519
part of that area of the front yard goes down

909
00:56:32.559 --> 00:56:37.639
into almost like a marsh, but it's a very small marshland,

910
00:56:37.960 --> 00:56:41.320
and you could hear something moving around it coming up

911
00:56:41.360 --> 00:56:44.719
to the left where we could constantly hear something moving

912
00:56:44.760 --> 00:56:47.559
through the scrub brush between us and the pond, coming

913
00:56:47.639 --> 00:56:50.559
up to the right. And of course my oldest son,

914
00:56:51.480 --> 00:56:55.199
he's kind of the wild child, and my youngest is

915
00:56:55.199 --> 00:56:59.519
going shut up, quit stop, and he would kind of,

916
00:57:00.480 --> 00:57:03.199
I don't want to say, antagonize it, but tended to

917
00:57:03.320 --> 00:57:07.679
antagonize or let out another whoop, and you would hear

918
00:57:07.760 --> 00:57:12.480
more rustling. Now, at first I thought, okay, this is

919
00:57:12.519 --> 00:57:15.239
I tried to explain it off coyotes because we have

920
00:57:15.280 --> 00:57:18.920
tons of coyotes down there, bobcats. You know, it's it's

921
00:57:18.960 --> 00:57:25.599
South's rural Georgia, so you've got plenty of coyote and bobcats. Anyway,

922
00:57:25.639 --> 00:57:27.440
So sorry, I'm getting nervous. I'm getting a little nervous

923
00:57:27.480 --> 00:57:30.239
talking about it. But it was it was such an

924
00:57:30.320 --> 00:57:34.960
unusual encounter that that's the first time I literally because

925
00:57:35.039 --> 00:57:40.320
having my two sons with me, I got up, grabbed

926
00:57:40.360 --> 00:57:43.840
my shotgun, walked off the porch because we have no

927
00:57:43.960 --> 00:57:47.599
ambient light outside of the house, and walked towards way

928
00:57:47.639 --> 00:57:54.880
or I heard something moving into the There's a large

929
00:57:54.920 --> 00:57:59.960
area that has blueberry bush, blueberry bushes and large scrub

930
00:58:00.039 --> 00:58:04.719
rush that goes down towards the pond. I walked straight

931
00:58:04.719 --> 00:58:07.239
towards it with my shotgun pumped at once and just

932
00:58:07.639 --> 00:58:11.559
said that's enough. If somebody's here at make yourself known.

933
00:58:12.639 --> 00:58:16.400
And it went dead silent. I mean to the point

934
00:58:16.760 --> 00:58:22.360
literally it was like early just no movement, nothing moved,

935
00:58:23.000 --> 00:58:28.599
nothing was heard. But it was that was you know.

936
00:58:28.960 --> 00:58:33.039
I only decided to tell this one story because of

937
00:58:33.079 --> 00:58:41.039
the encounter we had gosh, fifteen years earlier, probably forty

938
00:58:41.079 --> 00:58:43.559
miles south of there, which is where we saw the

939
00:58:43.639 --> 00:58:45.320
road growth crossing.

940
00:58:45.800 --> 00:58:50.679
Right right exactly. Oh my goodness, man, I'm trying to

941
00:58:50.719 --> 00:58:52.119
put myself in this situation.

942
00:58:53.199 --> 00:58:54.159
But yeah, I mean, you.

943
00:58:54.119 --> 00:58:58.920
Had your kids there, You're on a high alert, you know.

944
00:58:59.679 --> 00:59:03.000
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean it's I've had we've had

945
00:59:03.039 --> 00:59:07.039
some a couple of different we've hunted the same property.

946
00:59:07.079 --> 00:59:10.480
I've been hunting it since I was I'm fifty five.

947
00:59:10.239 --> 00:59:13.400
I started hunting there when I got out of the

948
00:59:13.440 --> 00:59:19.639
Air Force in the early nineties. We've had some strange encounters,

949
00:59:19.679 --> 00:59:22.920
me and my buddy, whose family owns the property. He

950
00:59:23.000 --> 00:59:26.360
no longer hunts there, but we have permission to continue hunting.

951
00:59:28.400 --> 00:59:36.840
But we've had several in strange encounters that have just

952
00:59:37.840 --> 00:59:42.679
really piqued my curiosity of what is you know, what's

953
00:59:42.719 --> 00:59:45.719
in that area? Is it? And we've we've had years

954
00:59:45.760 --> 00:59:49.159
where there's been nothing, and then we've had two or

955
00:59:49.199 --> 00:59:53.320
three years in a row where we've had such unusual encounters.

956
00:59:53.360 --> 00:59:57.159
Like one one time, which would have been oh gosh,

957
00:59:57.159 --> 01:00:01.159
this would have been in the mid nineties. I had

958
01:00:02.119 --> 01:00:07.239
I had killed a dough cleaned it, drug off the

959
01:00:07.559 --> 01:00:11.400
remainder of the carcass, carried it down into some scrub brush.

960
01:00:12.000 --> 01:00:16.000
And this is probably from the house that I'm describing

961
01:00:16.000 --> 01:00:21.320
from the first encounter is probably half a mile through

962
01:00:21.360 --> 01:00:24.639
the woods, but a mile mile and a half on roadway.

963
01:00:26.360 --> 01:00:28.960
We had left that evening, went into town, went and

964
01:00:29.000 --> 01:00:34.280
had dinner, came back and it was me and my buddy,

965
01:00:34.280 --> 01:00:37.679
who of course had whose family that owns all of

966
01:00:37.719 --> 01:00:42.159
this land. You know, we were pulling back up when

967
01:00:42.119 --> 01:00:44.760
we were in my jeep and another friend of ours

968
01:00:44.840 --> 01:00:47.440
is in the back seat and he's he's like turned

969
01:00:47.440 --> 01:00:48.800
down the music and I was like, I don't have

970
01:00:48.840 --> 01:00:52.800
the stereo on. And as we pulled into the the

971
01:00:52.840 --> 01:00:55.920
Soul this is an old old This house was built

972
01:00:55.960 --> 01:00:59.960
over one hundred something years ago. It's now been torn down.

973
01:01:00.039 --> 01:01:04.559
This is the primary area that we currently hunt. We

974
01:01:04.599 --> 01:01:08.280
pulled up and we could hear we heard this chattering,

975
01:01:08.880 --> 01:01:14.440
like almost unusual noises, Like I won't say unusual noise,

976
01:01:14.639 --> 01:01:17.079
it just sounded like chattering. And when I got out

977
01:01:17.119 --> 01:01:20.119
of the jeep and we went to kind of go

978
01:01:20.159 --> 01:01:23.920
around the house, I pulled out my flashlight, I had

979
01:01:23.960 --> 01:01:27.039
my gun. We immediately go around and we hear this

980
01:01:28.039 --> 01:01:32.360
literally a blood curdling screen, and we hear something just

981
01:01:32.519 --> 01:01:36.679
tear off down towards the pond that is on this property,

982
01:01:37.639 --> 01:01:40.800
and you could hear it crashing through the woods running.

983
01:01:42.519 --> 01:01:47.079
We basically wound up just curling back up towards the

984
01:01:47.119 --> 01:01:51.719
house and trying to calm all of our nerves and

985
01:01:52.119 --> 01:01:55.000
didn't hear anything else. The next morning we go over

986
01:01:55.039 --> 01:01:58.039
to where I had drug the carcass into the woods,

987
01:01:58.800 --> 01:02:05.039
which was just this eletal remains in the the ENTERDS

988
01:02:05.079 --> 01:02:10.440
of the deer and they were strewn and part of

989
01:02:10.440 --> 01:02:18.760
the deer was completely removed and gone. So anyway, don't know,

990
01:02:18.840 --> 01:02:22.119
and I mean bobcats. Bobcats are pretty, you know, agile

991
01:02:22.159 --> 01:02:25.159
and able to do a lot, but I've never seen

992
01:02:25.199 --> 01:02:29.039
them carry off that much of a carcass that quickly,

993
01:02:30.760 --> 01:02:31.639
not in one evening.

994
01:02:34.880 --> 01:02:38.239
There is some man, you have to experience some some

995
01:02:38.360 --> 01:02:41.880
weird stuff down in Georgia. That's that's for sure. Joel,

996
01:02:42.000 --> 01:02:44.280
my goodness, thank you for sharing.

997
01:02:43.960 --> 01:02:45.840
That my pleasure.

998
01:02:46.920 --> 01:02:50.880
Yeah, no, is this a is this a conversation I

999
01:02:50.920 --> 01:02:53.199
could also put on the podcast.

1000
01:02:54.960 --> 01:02:56.280
Yeah, yeah, that's fine.

1001
01:02:56.840 --> 01:02:59.320
All right, awesome, awesome, Well, thank you for coming up again.

1002
01:02:59.400 --> 01:03:02.280
Of course, thank you for supporting as well. I appreciate that.

1003
01:03:02.280 --> 01:03:06.840
That means a lot. Absolutely appreciate you. Appreciate all you do.

1004
01:03:07.960 --> 01:03:15.360
All right, you have a good one shirt you too. Hello, Bob, Hello,

1005
01:03:16.559 --> 01:03:17.239
how were you, sir?

1006
01:03:18.199 --> 01:03:26.719
I'm fine. I was going to tell you I talked

1007
01:03:26.760 --> 01:03:33.679
to you several nights ago. But I remember back when

1008
01:03:33.719 --> 01:03:39.519
I was eleven years old, I was duck hunting with

1009
01:03:39.559 --> 01:03:46.239
my father and his best friend in spring wool Bottom, Tennessee,

1010
01:03:48.159 --> 01:03:53.880
and they were getting ready to put the boat into

1011
01:03:53.920 --> 01:03:57.639
the water, and I was just wandering around and I

1012
01:03:57.679 --> 01:04:03.639
looked with my flashlight and I found a track that.

1013
01:04:03.679 --> 01:04:05.599
Had like four or five toes.

1014
01:04:06.039 --> 01:04:10.920
It's been so long, I can't remember exactly how many.

1015
01:04:11.639 --> 01:04:14.960
And this was in like.

1016
01:04:16.480 --> 01:04:21.440
The middle of January, and so there were spots of

1017
01:04:21.519 --> 01:04:27.679
snow around and I looked and I saw this track.

1018
01:04:27.840 --> 01:04:31.679
I called my dad. He came over and we looked

1019
01:04:31.719 --> 01:04:38.000
at it, and then just a couple of minutes later,

1020
01:04:38.199 --> 01:04:45.440
we heard the most hideous scream out of the woods

1021
01:04:45.639 --> 01:04:50.119
a little ways from us. And the best I can

1022
01:04:50.480 --> 01:04:53.599
describe the scream was it was.

1023
01:04:53.519 --> 01:04:58.119
All like something.

1024
01:04:59.440 --> 01:05:00.400
Something that iron.

1025
01:05:01.599 --> 01:05:05.880
But it screamed for like thirty seconds and then it

1026
01:05:05.960 --> 01:05:10.559
went silent, and we just stood there looking at each other,

1027
01:05:12.119 --> 01:05:17.320
and then we got in our boat and went duck hunting.

1028
01:05:18.639 --> 01:05:21.760
But I got to thinking, after I talked to you

1029
01:05:21.960 --> 01:05:26.320
the other day, that there's been two or three times

1030
01:05:26.360 --> 01:05:30.760
when I'd be deer hunting out in the woods and

1031
01:05:31.400 --> 01:05:42.639
I would have the same smell filled my nostrils, and

1032
01:05:42.719 --> 01:05:45.400
I would look and I would hunt for the source

1033
01:05:45.480 --> 01:05:49.320
of the smell, and I could never find it. But

1034
01:05:49.440 --> 01:05:51.800
it seemed like I was right on top of it,

1035
01:05:53.199 --> 01:05:57.960
but I never did pinpoint where it was at and

1036
01:05:58.079 --> 01:06:00.760
after a few minutes it would seem market would just

1037
01:06:00.920 --> 01:06:04.719
dissipate and go away.

1038
01:06:05.679 --> 01:06:05.800
Hum.

1039
01:06:09.079 --> 01:06:13.280
And you said this is in Tennessee, Bob, Yes, wes Tennessee.

1040
01:06:14.000 --> 01:06:21.760
That's rights nasty. Some some really really interesting stories. Thank

1041
01:06:21.800 --> 01:06:25.519
you for coming up again and for sharing, uh some

1042
01:06:25.639 --> 01:06:34.239
more things you've experienced over the years. Sure do you

1043
01:06:34.320 --> 01:06:37.079
mind if I use this conversation on the show, Bob

1044
01:06:38.320 --> 01:06:42.880
of course? All right, Well, thank you for coming up, sir,

1045
01:06:43.920 --> 01:06:51.239
No problem, Hey, Barb, how's it going.

1046
01:06:52.639 --> 01:07:02.079
Good? How's it going with you? Way northern Wisconsin, driving

1047
01:07:02.239 --> 01:07:10.079
home one night around two am, in the middle of nowhere, nowhere,

1048
01:07:10.639 --> 01:07:16.639
no homes, no nothing, just a deep, dark back road.

1049
01:07:18.039 --> 01:07:23.599
And yeah, there was something on the side of the road.

1050
01:07:25.199 --> 01:07:28.519
And I think I may have sent you something about this.

1051
01:07:30.440 --> 01:07:31.039
It was.

1052
01:07:33.840 --> 01:07:43.360
Very big, very hairy, two am, and it was wearing

1053
01:07:43.440 --> 01:07:50.199
a flannel shirt and blue jeans. Yep, yep, yeah, oh yeah,

1054
01:07:50.280 --> 01:07:53.639
like me out. Oh yeah it was it was really.

1055
01:07:55.599 --> 01:07:56.159
Yeah.

1056
01:07:58.800 --> 01:08:04.079
I didn't slow down, didn't stop, but there was hair everywhere,

1057
01:08:04.159 --> 01:08:12.320
I mean, the face, the hands. But blue jeans and

1058
01:08:12.800 --> 01:08:13.760
a flannel shirt.

1059
01:08:14.119 --> 01:08:14.159
What.

1060
01:08:17.399 --> 01:08:20.119
Yeah, it's.

1061
01:08:20.840 --> 01:08:23.159
It's a thing where you don't hear about it a lot.

1062
01:08:23.279 --> 01:08:28.399
But there is a there's a book called Where the

1063
01:08:28.399 --> 01:08:32.199
Footprints And which is a good collection of like really

1064
01:08:32.239 --> 01:08:35.680
weird bigfoot stuff and kind of maybe even paranormal stuff.

1065
01:08:35.720 --> 01:08:39.840
And there's a whole section about sightings where there's ben

1066
01:08:39.960 --> 01:08:43.159
encounters and they seem to be wearing some sort of

1067
01:08:43.239 --> 01:08:46.000
clothing like that is very strange.

1068
01:08:46.640 --> 01:08:51.159
Right right. And the face I'm saying behind you was

1069
01:08:51.239 --> 01:08:55.359
the face I saw. I mean there was hair everywhere

1070
01:08:55.439 --> 01:09:00.840
from the hands to the head. Yeah, it was really bizarre.

1071
01:09:01.359 --> 01:09:06.840
And I'm the one that did see monkeys on the

1072
01:09:06.920 --> 01:09:11.439
road too. And listen, I'm sixty five years old. I've

1073
01:09:11.479 --> 01:09:18.000
lived in this area for forty years, and I'm I

1074
01:09:18.039 --> 01:09:22.640
was a dental assistant, you know, I'm I'm somewhat normal.

1075
01:09:23.039 --> 01:09:31.119
I guess, I don't know, but yeah, so I've seen

1076
01:09:31.279 --> 01:09:35.279
I've seen some interesting things up here. I'm right now

1077
01:09:35.439 --> 01:09:44.359
at my grandparents' cabin way far more in the middle

1078
01:09:44.399 --> 01:09:48.039
of nowhere. And my sister spent the last night here

1079
01:09:48.880 --> 01:09:55.720
and she said that she was looking out towards the

1080
01:09:55.720 --> 01:10:02.720
west and she heard some thing that she'd never heard before,

1081
01:10:05.239 --> 01:10:08.399
and there were two deer chasing it. She saw something

1082
01:10:08.479 --> 01:10:11.600
that was like, Oh, I don't know, if you can see,

1083
01:10:11.680 --> 01:10:19.000
my hair is kind of brown, but the hair color

1084
01:10:19.039 --> 01:10:23.319
on whatever it was the deer were chasing was darker

1085
01:10:23.359 --> 01:10:27.880
than my hair. And yeah, I don't know. I mean

1086
01:10:27.920 --> 01:10:31.880
it was something the deer were chasing. Couldn't be a

1087
01:10:31.920 --> 01:10:34.520
wolf or a coyote. I mean, I don't know what

1088
01:10:34.560 --> 01:10:42.119
the hell it was. But yeah, there's there's some weird

1089
01:10:42.159 --> 01:10:43.560
stuff that goes on in the woods.

1090
01:10:44.399 --> 01:10:47.840
Absolutely, you know, Wisconsin really does have a lot of

1091
01:10:47.880 --> 01:10:52.000
weird stuff, especially up in the north. That area, like

1092
01:10:52.039 --> 01:10:56.319
where you had the sighting of the one that was

1093
01:10:56.359 --> 01:11:01.199
wearing clothing? Was that Are you you able to share

1094
01:11:02.199 --> 01:11:05.560
the area that that was that sighting was in or

1095
01:11:05.720 --> 01:11:09.680
is that we can keep that? Oh not public as well?

1096
01:11:09.840 --> 01:11:10.319
That's fine.

1097
01:11:11.239 --> 01:11:11.760
I mean.

1098
01:11:13.239 --> 01:11:23.720
It was in let's see, Washburn County, Wisconsin, and it

1099
01:11:23.920 --> 01:11:28.199
was on I don't want to say the road, you know,

1100
01:11:28.319 --> 01:11:29.840
I don't want a lot of people go on there.

1101
01:11:29.920 --> 01:11:34.600
You got to yeah, no, nope, that's okay, Washburn And

1102
01:11:34.600 --> 01:11:37.159
what was approximate year on that again.

1103
01:11:38.359 --> 01:11:46.119
Two thousand and thirteen, I want to say, gotcha right, yep.

1104
01:11:46.760 --> 01:11:52.159
And like I say, there may be a game farm

1105
01:11:52.439 --> 01:11:57.039
around here, because I had a peacock on my deck.

1106
01:11:58.720 --> 01:12:05.720
And I've seen monkeys on the roads. So if you

1107
01:12:05.760 --> 01:12:08.800
look that up you can kind of see, you know,

1108
01:12:10.279 --> 01:12:14.840
who is in that area.

1109
01:12:16.720 --> 01:12:29.199
You looking it up. Yeah, it's interesting. Yeah, there are

1110
01:12:29.279 --> 01:12:34.319
a few Safari parks up there too. I'm noticing right right.

1111
01:12:34.880 --> 01:12:37.279
And you know, it may, like I say, it may

1112
01:12:37.319 --> 01:12:39.520
have been something that escaped. I don't know.

1113
01:12:39.720 --> 01:12:40.600
I have no idea.

1114
01:12:41.800 --> 01:12:47.439
And what the being was that I saw on the

1115
01:12:47.560 --> 01:12:53.680
road at two am. It freaked me out. There's no

1116
01:12:53.720 --> 01:12:55.760
way I was going to stop. I wasn't going to stop.

1117
01:12:55.800 --> 01:12:59.399
And you know, see, do you want to help? Because

1118
01:12:59.399 --> 01:13:02.880
there was no homes, No, there was nothing around.

1119
01:13:06.680 --> 01:13:10.479
It's some wild stuff. It might help explain the monkeys

1120
01:13:10.520 --> 01:13:14.159
you saw, but it does not explain what you saw

1121
01:13:14.279 --> 01:13:17.880
wearing clothing for sure. I mean that's just something completely different,

1122
01:13:17.960 --> 01:13:19.880
right but my goodness.

1123
01:13:20.640 --> 01:13:23.439
Yeah, and I don't drink or do drugs, you know,

1124
01:13:23.520 --> 01:13:24.079
so I'm.

1125
01:13:23.920 --> 01:13:29.880
Not true right right right there you go. Yeah, Wisconsin's

1126
01:13:29.920 --> 01:13:33.039
got some some weird stuff. Well, it was good talking

1127
01:13:33.079 --> 01:13:35.760
to you. Thank you for coming up and for sharing that.

1128
01:13:35.920 --> 01:13:38.119
I do remember the email you sent me now.

1129
01:13:38.640 --> 01:13:41.960
Oh yeah, yep, yep, all right, take.

1130
01:13:41.760 --> 01:13:45.279
Care is this a conversation I can use for the

1131
01:13:45.399 --> 01:13:48.720
show as well. Barb of course, of course, all right,

1132
01:13:48.800 --> 01:13:51.800
thank you, thank you so much. You bet take care,

1133
01:13:54.479 --> 01:14:00.760
good stuff. Wisconsin is weird. He see how's it going?

1134
01:14:01.479 --> 01:14:04.920
Oh hey, I don't even know it was on Hi.

1135
01:14:06.520 --> 01:14:07.039
So yeah.

1136
01:14:07.079 --> 01:14:12.199
I told my story on here before about driving and

1137
01:14:13.119 --> 01:14:16.439
seeing a bigfoot run across the road. And I mean,

1138
01:14:17.119 --> 01:14:19.520
it's the only thing you could describe it as is

1139
01:14:19.560 --> 01:14:23.000
a big foot. I've seen bears all my life, mountain lions.

1140
01:14:23.039 --> 01:14:27.760
I grew up in Bluemouth's National Forest and also off

1141
01:14:27.880 --> 01:14:31.439
Good up in there, and it's part of the Sierra Mountains.

1142
01:14:32.039 --> 01:14:36.199
But and then years and years later, me and my

1143
01:14:36.279 --> 01:14:40.199
brother not too long ago, had an encounter. We didn't

1144
01:14:40.239 --> 01:14:43.640
get to see it, but we heard it in the snow.

1145
01:14:43.960 --> 01:14:48.600
It was about like two feet of snow and I

1146
01:14:48.720 --> 01:14:54.279
was doing like some whooping noises and it was making

1147
01:14:54.359 --> 01:14:59.720
some weird I can't even repeat what it was doing.

1148
01:14:59.760 --> 01:14:59.960
It was.

1149
01:15:00.000 --> 01:15:03.359
It is really deep and almost like I was trying

1150
01:15:03.359 --> 01:15:08.359
to talk, and my brother was getting nervously scared, but

1151
01:15:08.760 --> 01:15:10.439
he just wanted to run up the road a little

1152
01:15:10.439 --> 01:15:14.359
bit with his dog. And then that's when I heard it.

1153
01:15:14.399 --> 01:15:19.399
Just it sounded like an elephant stomping through the snow

1154
01:15:19.720 --> 01:15:21.760
up the hill towards me. So I started yelling for

1155
01:15:21.880 --> 01:15:24.600
my brother and he starts flying back down to the

1156
01:15:24.680 --> 01:15:27.520
car and he's like, let's go, let's go. I'm not

1157
01:15:27.560 --> 01:15:31.199
doing this no more. Let's go, and then we left.

1158
01:15:31.239 --> 01:15:32.039
But I have.

1159
01:15:32.000 --> 01:15:36.479
A couple questions for you. What got you into this?

1160
01:15:36.960 --> 01:15:40.359
Did you see one? I'm just really curious.

1161
01:15:40.600 --> 01:15:42.920
Oh yeah, I can talk about that for a minute.

1162
01:15:43.000 --> 01:15:49.520
So really what I watched a lot of old shows

1163
01:15:49.520 --> 01:15:53.399
with my dad growing up about Bigfoot and unsolved mysteries

1164
01:15:53.439 --> 01:15:59.880
and stuff. And then during well right before twenty twenty,

1165
01:16:01.239 --> 01:16:03.359
I was like, hey, I should start a podcast, and

1166
01:16:03.399 --> 01:16:06.359
then it was the right time to start it, and

1167
01:16:06.359 --> 01:16:10.239
then about two years ago I made it focused primarily

1168
01:16:10.239 --> 01:16:13.079
on talking to people about Bigfoot. It just kind of

1169
01:16:13.119 --> 01:16:16.159
really escalated from there because I realized there's a lot

1170
01:16:16.199 --> 01:16:21.079
of people that really just need to share what they've experienced,

1171
01:16:21.079 --> 01:16:23.159
and not a lot of people are willing to listen.

1172
01:16:24.920 --> 01:16:30.079
So that's really what it turned into. And it's it's

1173
01:16:30.119 --> 01:16:32.359
been a really wild ride so far.

1174
01:16:32.520 --> 01:16:35.479
So have you ever went out looking for one?

1175
01:16:36.840 --> 01:16:39.600
Yeah, a few times I have.

1176
01:16:40.159 --> 01:16:40.720
I go to.

1177
01:16:42.920 --> 01:16:48.199
A place in Iowa, where I'm from, and it's pretty active.

1178
01:16:48.279 --> 01:16:57.359
We've heard wood knocks and whoops and got trees got

1179
01:16:57.439 --> 01:17:02.119
pushed over. There's been a few sightings in the area,

1180
01:17:02.479 --> 01:17:05.520
and I went to vent to a place in Oregon

1181
01:17:05.560 --> 01:17:09.159
a few times and we got roared and screamed out

1182
01:17:09.399 --> 01:17:12.560
out there. It's pretty wild. I haven't had a visual yet,

1183
01:17:13.600 --> 01:17:17.239
but uh, but it's just uh, I've had a lot

1184
01:17:17.239 --> 01:17:21.560
of really other weird things happen so far. Sony.

1185
01:17:21.720 --> 01:17:23.319
When you do get a sighting and it's going to

1186
01:17:23.399 --> 01:17:24.479
shake you down to your.

1187
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Gore, man, yeah, I'm trying to get ready for it,

1188
01:17:27.399 --> 01:17:30.560
you know. So it's kind of if you can get

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prepared for it. But sometimes you don't even get that.

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That a luxury, you know, like you.

1191
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Don't even know how it's really going to react to

1192
01:17:39.359 --> 01:17:41.399
you if it's close to note, you know what I mean.

1193
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That's the scary part.

1194
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You don't know.

1195
01:17:45.039 --> 01:17:47.680
The way it moved across the road wasn't like a human.

1196
01:17:48.560 --> 01:17:52.079
It was more like a wild animal or right the

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01:17:52.119 --> 01:17:55.960
way a gear moves across like just float. The way

1198
01:17:56.119 --> 01:18:01.079
it just flowed across the road like so natural and

1199
01:18:01.479 --> 01:18:03.159
so fast, but it was so big.

1200
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It's just it was, we're just thing I've ever seen it?

1201
01:18:08.720 --> 01:18:11.560
Yeah, I watched the Bob Gibblan film and stuff like

1202
01:18:11.560 --> 01:18:13.119
that when I was a kid, and I was always

1203
01:18:13.159 --> 01:18:16.520
interested in it, and it was like hoping it was

1204
01:18:16.560 --> 01:18:18.680
out there, but I didn't really think it was going

1205
01:18:18.720 --> 01:18:22.000
to be out there. But man, it scared the crap

1206
01:18:22.039 --> 01:18:24.399
at me when I seen it. And I do have

1207
01:18:24.479 --> 01:18:29.640
the video footage on YouTube right after we've seen it,

1208
01:18:29.760 --> 01:18:34.119
the reaction of the kid screaming like we've seen it too.

1209
01:18:34.239 --> 01:18:35.840
I got out of the car. I was trying to

1210
01:18:35.880 --> 01:18:41.319
look for prints, but it was like the ground was

1211
01:18:41.359 --> 01:18:45.960
so solid that you couldn't really see too much. But

1212
01:18:46.079 --> 01:18:48.680
I found one spot that I mean, if you pause

1213
01:18:48.760 --> 01:18:50.800
it there and just look at it, you can see

1214
01:18:51.319 --> 01:18:55.479
the out line of a huge foot and the tree

1215
01:18:55.520 --> 01:19:00.000
that it ran past. I thought it was small, smaller, bigot,

1216
01:19:00.159 --> 01:19:02.560
you know. But the tree that it went past. I

1217
01:19:02.600 --> 01:19:06.279
went up to that tree, it was like twelve feet hyphan,

1218
01:19:06.840 --> 01:19:09.479
so that thing had it been like ten feet.

1219
01:19:09.319 --> 01:19:10.560
Or no problem.

1220
01:19:11.239 --> 01:19:17.000
Absolutely, Wow, some wild stuff, dude, Jesse. I appreciate you

1221
01:19:17.039 --> 01:19:19.439
coming up. Thanks for asking me a few questions. It's

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01:19:19.479 --> 01:19:23.479
good talking to you, Matt. You do all right, Bette,

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