Sept. 27, 2025

The Galloping Albino Beast of Agawam!

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Season 1

What happens when a Massachusetts mother sees something so bizarre, it leaves her family questioning everything they thought they knew about their backyard?


In this unforgettable episode, we sit down with Carrie, a lifelong Bay Stater who shares her chilling 2008 encounter with a white, orangutan-like creature sprinting across School Street in Agawam — in the middle of a suburban neighborhood. Initially dismissed as a prank or escaped zoo animal, the truth becomes stranger the more she digs — especially after hearing similar reports from the Quabbin Reservoir and beyond.


You’ll hear about an eerie galloping motion, a backyard sighting by her son, and how a sudden memory unlocked years later reshaped her beliefs.

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You're listening to Bigflett Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In

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this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring

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you first hand encounters from people who say they've seen

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something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to

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quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere,

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and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.

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These are the voices of the people who've lived it.

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To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that

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just might change the way you see the woods forever.

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So stay with us, all right, Bicklett Society. You've got

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the privilege of talking to Carrie today. Carrie's a listener

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of the show that reached out to me about some

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things that have been experienced out there in Massachusetts. And

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always am interested to hear things that have happened in

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that state, as that's where I grew up. But Carrie,

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welcome to the show today. How's it going.

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It's going great.

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How are you doing good? We're having a good day

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in Iowa. It's starting to get a little cooler, so

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you know, clear skies a year. It's great, it's great.

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We'll probably have corn mazes up before you know it.

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So we like that nice nice, so good stuff, good stuff.

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Great.

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Well, Carrie, it sounds like you've had some interesting things

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happen with you and your children over the years out

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there in Massachusetts. So you're welcome to take us back

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when you guys were experiencing the things that happened to

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you out there.

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Sure. Okay, this is back in two thousand and eight

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when this occurred, and I had forgotten about it. Honestly,

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I just didn't really think anything of it. And I

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was listening to one of your podcasts that you interviewed

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some guy Chris from Hamden. He grew up in Hamden,

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was talking about when he went to U Math and

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would go to his mom's on the weekend, and when

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he and a friend were going back to you mass

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on a Sunday, the sun was setting and they were

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on Route nine, like near Quabin, I think, and they

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saw a bigfoot go across the road. And further in

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that you had asked him, Hey, has anyone in your

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area that you know of have seen the same thing,

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and he was saying that some guy where his son

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is on his son's baseball team actually researches, Bigfoot goes

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looking for it, and he told him of his experience,

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and the guy had told him that he had seen

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or he know someone that had seen an albino one.

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And that's what triggered my memory of what we saw

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in Agwon. So this was back in two thousand and

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eight and I lived like kind of near the river,

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and I was raising my two boys, and my youngest son,

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he was probably like thirteen at the time, and he

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told me and my older son that he had been

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looking out the living room window, which I had a

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huge backyard, and it abutted a park that had just

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been put in, like the first phase of the park

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was put in School Street Park, and he looked out

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the window and he said that you saw like an

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albino looking orange tang with its arms up in the

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air running across our yard.

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And.

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It had its arms up like the way orangutangs run

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like that goofy run. He like imitated it and showed us.

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So my older son and I were like, okay, and

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we laughed about it. But you know, my son wasn't

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someone that would embellish stories or make things up, so

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I believe them, you know, And I just thought at

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the time, oh, well, maybe someone's exotic pet had gotten

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loose or something. So anyways, like a week later, I'm

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in the car with my older son and we're driving

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down School Street. We see the same exact monkey. It

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was an albino looking orangutang, but it was running on

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all fours like it was like galloping across School Street,

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and it was probably maybe fifteen feet in front of

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our car and it ran into like the wooded section

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on School Street, and we were like, oh my wow.

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He wasn't kidding. He really did see this thing. So

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that's what triggered my memory is when the man mentioned

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that someone had seen a white sasquatch in the clob in,

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and then I listened to another podcast of yours where

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the guy that was living in Pelham with his girlfriend

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they saw as well in the clob in. So I

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don't know, you know, at the time, I thought, well,

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also not maybe that it was an exotic animal that

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got loose, maybe from Forest Park Zoo, but I never

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or remember Forest Park Zoo having an albino orang a thing.

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And just to make sure that I was jarring my

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memory correctly as far as the height, of this thing.

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I asked my sons separately about it, and I said,

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all right, my youngest one, I asked him, how tall

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do you think the thing was? And he said only

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three feet? And then I asked my older son separately,

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you remember when we sat running across the street. He

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said yeah. I mean, I said, how tall do you

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think that was if we saw it standing up? And

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he said probably like three feet. So I'm going to

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go with that because I was thinking four to five feet.

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But if there's two out of three of us that

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are saying three feet, I'll go with what they remember,

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and I can send you like I'll emil you after,

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like a map of the area. It's not like heavily

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wooded with which is another thing I think, like that's

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really strange, like because I didn't ever hear of any

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neighbors or anyone else seeing this thing either, which was weird.

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You know, I don't know's that's what our experience was,

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and your podcasts jarred my memory about it. And I've

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always been like interested in Bigfoot since I was little

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and not sure like if I believe in it or not,

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but I don't know. I've been on a kick lately

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listening to podcasts, and I am like a thousand percent

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convinced they're real. There's just too many sightings. And now

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with you know, people having cameras on their cell phone,

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you're actually seeing footage that you can tell is not

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AI or by people's reaction that there's something here, this

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is real. You know. Another thing that I thought was

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interesting too. I was listening to a podcast a few

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days ago, and I don't know if you ever heard

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of Nino from Anno's Corner, but he had this guy

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on called Steve on how to Hunt and sure, yeah,

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oh you know who he is? Yeah, okay, well he

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was on Nino's podcast. They were talking about bigfoot, and

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they were talking about the cloaking issue, and Steve said,

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you know, like there's been times that people see handprints,

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their fingerprints on their cars or on stuff, and it's

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always oily, or people that have obtained hair samples say

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it's like oily. So this Steve guy, you couldn't remember

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who the scientist was that took the hair and put

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it in a peach tree dish and put it like

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under a microscope and he squeezed the follicle of the

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hair and oil started coming out and when he ended

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up putting like an electromagnetic field to it, it turned translucent.

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So I found that interesting. And he said another thing

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that kind of connects to that is he said that

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people had reported when they use EMF detectors around them

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and if they know they're around them or sightings, they

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say that the EMF detectors go off. Yes, it's I

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found interesting.

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Oh yeah, you heard of that, So I've heard of

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the EMF stuff. I had not heard that other saying

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where there was oil coming out of the hair, which

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that's pretty cool. I would be interesting to listen to that.

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If anyone has a link for that specific interview, they

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maybe put it in the comments. But yeah, that's really

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really interesting stuff. I have a few questions or maybe

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comments about what you guys saw on IGUAM. It's so

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interesting because a lot of people listening, if you're familiar

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with Massachusetts, are going to be like, but that's in

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the middle of Springfield, which is one of the biggest

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cities in Massachusetts. But I would say I would say

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to these guys that are saying that, look at the

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map and then look at other similar things that have

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happened in other large cities, such as the sightings in

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Omaha that are happening by the zoo. In this situation,

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you're right across the Connecticut River from the zoo in

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Forest Park, which is what you've already mentioned. This also

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is happening. Sightings are happening down in Kansas City, Missouri,

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in a at least one house area that is close to

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the green space that has the zoo in it as well.

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So there's maybe this pattern that is starting to arise

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where there's sightings that are happening in larger cities. If

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there's a green space slash zoo with animals, it's very

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very weird. But even weirder still is that, you know,

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because I looked up real quick because I was curious.

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You know, what's the height of an orangutan if it's

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running an adult female? It says an adult female is

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about three point three to four feet tall, an adult

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male is four to five feet I think that's very interesting.

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I might actually even give them a call after this,

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just to check on some things. But as you stated yourself,

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I mean, it sounds like you didn't see any escaped

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animals in that time in the news or anything like that, right.

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No, nothing. No, and I you know, because and it

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did occur. I thought about it, like, h have I

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ever heard of, you know, an albino orangutang at Forest Park?

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And I hadn't, and I don't. I don't remember back

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in two thousand and eight if there was Google, the

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Google stuff, so I then I if there was, I

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would have Googled it, you know. But yeah, I don't

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remember if Google was available back then or not. But yeah, yeah,

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And you know, I wanted to ask you this too.

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I remember. I think you interviewed the guy who lived

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in Pelham right with his girlfriend that saw the white

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stop squatch and Clobin. Oh yeah, So during that podcast

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you did tell him that you also had heard from

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another person that said said a white looking orangutang and

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you asked him if he had ever heard of anybody.

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So do you remember what town that was from or

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or were you thinking it was me that reported it

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to you?

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Well, let's see, so the gentleman there's the route is

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south of the Kabbin around Swift River, that one you mentioned,

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and then there was a recent one I did where

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there was a gentleman who's also written a book, and

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that was around uh that was around Pelham. Yeah, he

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mentioned the actual there's a big peninsula there too, some

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things happening around that, the Prescott Peninsula is what it's called.

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There's some footprints found around there. I mean, I've actually

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heard things all around the Cobbin. It's just there's certain

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things that I really can't get into, but I can

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say I've heard stuff east of just east of the

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Coabbin and maybe other places as well. So, I mean,

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there's so much forest around that reservoir, as you know,

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I think there's actually that's all around the entire thing.

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Yeah, oh no, no doubt, no doubt. So there's like

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stuff that people have told you that you can't talk about.

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Yeah, I so just to kind of behind the scenes thing.

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I never there's about half the stuff I hear is

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stuff that people just want to talk to me about,

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and they are very concerned about even having their voice

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out there, even if it's an alias, which is totally understandable.

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But yeah, there's there's some things that I just tuck

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away in the back of my mind and if they

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ever get to the point where, you know, they want

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to come on the show, that's perfectly fine. But uh, yeah,

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there's there's stuff all around the coab And besides, you know,

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I'm starting to put together a siting map on on

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the website of things that I've been told on the

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show at Big for Society podcast dot com. And really

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there should be dots all around the reservoir. It's just

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not all this public.

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So yeah, and it makes sense, like you said, because

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the area is so vast, and you know, this is

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where I do feel bad, like think about it. You know,

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people come across this stuff where they probably don't believe

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in it to begin with, and then you're scared about

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coming across this, and then people think you're a whack

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job when you share the story of it, you know,

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and this flips people's reality upside down, you know, like

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that that's setting for people, you know like it because

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I do truly believe there's been so many people that

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have experienced it. And it's not just throughout the United States.

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I mean there's reports all over the world, you know,

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like Vietnam. Our Vietnam soldiers talked about rockets, you know, boulders.

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It just so it just seems like these things have

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existed or forest people some people want to call them

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forest people, And I find it interesting where some say

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that U some are good and some are bad, just

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like the human race. You know. Yeah.

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Absolutely. Another interesting thing about your area looking at it

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is if you just go west, or not just west,

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but a fair amount not too bad over to Grandville.

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There's a ton of activity in Grandville over by the

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Cobble Mountain area. I don't know if you're familiar with that.

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Oh yeah, it's and I mean that's just outside of Westfield.

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So if you kind of look, I mean they could

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go south of Westfield and then there's there's Robinson State Park,

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you know, so there's in a way kind of a

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connecting green space if you hop through some neighborhoods. But

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it's just it's so interesting that area of Massachusetts. You know,

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before you get over into the Berkshires, there's still stuff

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that goes on just outside of Westfield in Springfield.

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Oh yeah, absolutely, one podcast I saw it. This would

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be someone you probably would really like to interview. Have

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you heard of Ernie de Vow.

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Yeah, that's actually that is. I had him on the show.

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It's a fascinating account with the sign language and everything.

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It's episode eighty. If people want to listen to that.

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But no, it was a really fun time chatting with him,

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and his account is intense.

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Oh it's so intense. I can't even imagine how he

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was feeling like experiencing that. And it's convincing. You know.

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You could tell the guy's not making it up because

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I've listened to him tell his story twice, you know,

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and nothing changes over the story. You know.

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The Volgel Brothers are coming on soon, which they are

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the ones I believe that that created the Cobble Mountain

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Critter Festival that just started up last year, So we'll

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probably be talking about that area again pretty soon. So

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that'd be awesome.

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Oh that's cool. Now are they the two that it

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was in the seventies? There were prints in their backyard

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and the prince led.

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I believe, so.

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I know they because there are there.

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I think they had an experience in New York as well.

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Yeah, oh, okay, because I don't know who the brothers are,

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but I heard of these brothers that I don't know

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if they lived in West Springfield at the time or whatever,

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but it was in the mid seventies. And it's funny

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because when I listened to that podcast, I remember my

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parents talking about it. When I was a kid. I

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was probably only like ten years old at the time,

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and they claimed that they followed the prince into aguam

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into Robinson State Park and I think there was snow

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on the ground at the time. And then they said

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it was a big like media storm at the time,

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and you know, they think that people like from either

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the FBI or somewhere like showed up at their house

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like questioning them and stuff about it. But I mean,

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this was like mid seventies, you know, when people really

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needn't talk about this stuff.

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But yeah, interesting, I did do a quick search about that,

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and it looks like you are right on the money

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with that. Yeah, it was nineteen seventy six, so we'll definitely,

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I bet we'll be hearing about that in a few weeks.

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But yep, Robinson State Park. So that's good to know.

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This could definitely, you know, connect to that future interview

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as well. Now I want to double check something with you.

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So it was just your kids that had the sighting

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or you as well me as well.

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Okay, the first one to see it was my younger

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son and we like laughed about it. But then a

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week later, my older son was in the car with me.

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We were on School Street and it ran on all

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fours like, it was galloping like fast across School Street.

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It was just in front of my car, and it

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went into the woods like from where the park would

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be where School Street Park is, and it ran across

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School Street into like where there's this wooded area that

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if you look on a map, it's not a very

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big wooded area. But eventually, like you could this thing

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or whatever probably could like venture towards Connecticut. It's on

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the border of Connecticut. Agum, you know. Yeah, So I

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don't And when you get over to Connecticut that way

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there is like a lot of farm land and woods,

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So I don't know. I'm sure if they don't want

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to be seen, they know how to truk through woods

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to not be seen.

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You know absolutely when you had that sighting in front

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of your car, So did you have a view then,

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like a side view or a back view or what

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kind of view? Did you actually have.

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A front view? It was in front of the car.

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We were driving down School Street, okay, and it ran

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it will whatever on all fours, galloped like across the

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across the street, and it was fast, but it was

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it was all white like an albino. So I mean

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it verified it, and I, you know, I believed my

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younger son anyways, he wasn't like a kid that would

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make stuff up. When my my older one and I

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saw it, we were just like, wow, that's what he saw.

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Absolutely, and so that's interesting. So you have that straight

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on a view. So what you saw then, would you

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say it was like one hundred percent what you've seen

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in pictures of an orangutan or were there are things

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that you noticed that were a little bit different and

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maybe didn't really line up with an orangutan in some ways?

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No, I would say the body shape and everything was

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like an orangutang, or the length of the arms or

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you know, and the thing is like my older one

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and I saw it in a different position where the

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younger one he saw it running like an orangutang would

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with his arms up in the air, like that goofy

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type of run they have. You know, Yeah, I would say,

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because it wasn't like it wasn't huge, you know, it

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was like of a thinner stature. It wasn't wasn't huge

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like how people would describe like a bigfoot or something

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more like an orangutang.

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Absolutely did it on its face? Did it have large

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flesh pads and like where the cheeks would be or

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were those not pressed?

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And I just I really couldn't tell you because it

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is in two thousand and eight, you know. And yeah,

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and plus it happened so fast, like be able to

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really observe details like that, it would be hard, you know,

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because it did this thing was fast.

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Absolutely. The only the only reason I asked that is

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it might be an interesting clue as to you if

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it was a male or female, as in that species,

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at least the males do look pretty different than females

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because of that feature to the face.

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So oh really yeah.

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Just uh you take a minute, take a minute after this,

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look up some pictures and it's it's very interesting. You know,

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usually male and females of the species look different, but

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in this case, like they do look quite quite a

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bit different, especially if you've ever seen him at the

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zoo and you have like the you know, the the

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big older male and just like that really round face

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because of the it's just very round looking in the

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two little beady eyes in the center. It's it's pretty cool.

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Uh.

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They are so amazing to watch. I love watching him

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at the Omaha Zoo. It's they are so so smart, but.

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Wow, yeah, and they have characteristics of us. Oh so

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now I'm kind of getting more where you were trying

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to get at. If I saw a front view, I

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saw a side view of the animal because he was

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running in front of the car across the street, so

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I would have saw a side view of its head,

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you know what I mean. But I didn't like focus

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so much on its head because I also at the time,

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I was like, wow, look at this, Like what am

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I right?

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That's cool, It's so good.

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But I'll tell you one thing I recently saw too,

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like probably a year ago in Alabama, I saw an

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albino peacock, which was weird. I didn't even know they existed,

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and I had to google that, like did I really

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just see what I just saw? And they are? They exist?

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So I don't know if it's someone because there's a

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lot of farmland north of Pensacola if you go into Alabama, okay,

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and you know, maybe someone just has an exotic peacock

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on their farm or something.

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But it's one of those things where where you never know.

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But your story is really neat for a few reasons.

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One of them is, as we mentioned before, in the

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you know this area of Massachusetts, you know now Springfield

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up to the coabb and there's these just reports of

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white creatures or white bigfoot and they look a little different,

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but that is that is a pattern as well. And

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you know, people that are listening to this, they may

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stumbled onto it because they it's an Aguwam or Springfield, Massachusetts,

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and that's kind of unique. But you know, for new listeners,

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I did grow up in Franklin County, which is up

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you know, Northfield, and one of my goals with this

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podcast is hopefully someday someone will have some experience they

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can share from that area. I think it would be

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really cool to talk to someone about a Northfielder or

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that area. That's kind of a personal goal for me.

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But yeah, have you a child grown up there? Have you?

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Did you hear any reports? Has anyone seeing stuff?

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No?

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No.

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So the funny thing is, like I used to watch

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weird shows with my dad, right like in search of

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and stuff. I thought I wasn't really into it, you know,

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so I missed out all a lot. I only got

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into it in my probably like mid maybe mid to

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late twenties.

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I don't know.

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Time gets Oh, it was just I was in Iowa

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and we found out about a local cryptid out here that.

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Flies.

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It flew around a town called Van Meter in the

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early nineteen hundreds, and so I got into that. I

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got involved with a documentary that was being filmed by

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small town Monsters, and they at the last minute they

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had me do the interviews for it, and I was like,

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I really like this like a lot. I'd never done

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interviewing before and I was like, I love this, and

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so that gifted well, thank you, thank you. I'd never

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done it before.

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Then.

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This was back in twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen, and so.

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Yeah.

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After that, I was like, yeah, let's start my own

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thing and started a podcast and it worked out really

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well because it was the next year was when people

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couldn't leave their houses, so it was easy to get

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a hold of people. But it didn't transfer over to

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bigfoot stuff one hundred percent until probably a year and

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a half to two years ago. And then I decided

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to focus one hundred percent on talking to witnesses that

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had seen what they think is Bigfoot or something similar

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in giving them an area to share what they've experienced,

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and that's been I mean, that's just a whole different

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rabbit hole. And I've been able to go to Oregon

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and all sorts of places and have weird stuff happens.

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Oh that's cool. Good for you. Now when I've looked

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at some stuff too. What are they called BFRORO or

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the Bigfoot Research Association or something or BFRORO. Yeah, yeah,

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I saw that they say that like the most sightings,

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credible sightings have been in Washington State. Do you agree

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with that?

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Well, you know, so BFROUS or Bigfoot Field Researchers or organization,

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great organization, because you know they're one of the ones

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where they're putting everything on a map and documenting, which

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is great. I don't know, so I would say I

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agree with them that if we're saying that Washington is

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the place with the most reports, yeah, totally. I don't

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know about most credible. I think you can have credible

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reports from I mean really anywhere in the US. There's

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nothing I think from Hawaii. But other than that, I

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mean you can have credible reports from anywhere. In my opinion,

465
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the most reports, I would say definitely it's going to

466
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be in Washington State. From what I've seen, so I

467
00:28:49.480 --> 00:28:53.839
would agree with that. But yeah, they do. They do

468
00:28:53.920 --> 00:28:55.960
a lot of work, so they're good.

469
00:28:56.200 --> 00:29:00.519
So yeah, it's good that people are researching it because

470
00:29:00.559 --> 00:29:02.359
this is another thing that kind of bothers me too,

471
00:29:02.599 --> 00:29:06.359
is why is it being hidden? You know, think about

472
00:29:06.400 --> 00:29:10.839
that because I've also heard like an Eastern Texas if

473
00:29:10.839 --> 00:29:14.319
you come across them, you're considered lunch, like you gotta

474
00:29:14.359 --> 00:29:17.799
be careful. So you know, why is this being hidden

475
00:29:18.000 --> 00:29:20.799
where it could actually be a danger for people that

476
00:29:20.839 --> 00:29:23.920
want to go hiking or think about the Appalation Trail,

477
00:29:24.039 --> 00:29:27.400
how they say people go missing all the time. You know,

478
00:29:27.599 --> 00:29:31.880
like what, I don't understand why this is being hidden?

479
00:29:34.119 --> 00:29:39.839
I agree with you that it does a lot of times.

480
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It feels like there are people that no more than

481
00:29:44.759 --> 00:29:48.319
they're letting on. And I think we are at a

482
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point over the last few years, and this is because

483
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you know, thankfully there are a lot of different shows

484
00:29:57.720 --> 00:30:00.160
that are focusing on this. And the way I I

485
00:30:00.200 --> 00:30:03.599
look into it is if you keep putting stuff into

486
00:30:03.640 --> 00:30:06.599
a bathtub, eventually it's just going to overflow and you

487
00:30:06.640 --> 00:30:09.680
can't control it, right, It's just going to be everywhere.

488
00:30:09.880 --> 00:30:12.480
That's what I kind of picture is you know, you've

489
00:30:12.480 --> 00:30:15.759
got all these different shows and you're getting these actual

490
00:30:15.880 --> 00:30:18.880
like when you have interviews and you're actually interviewing a witness,

491
00:30:18.960 --> 00:30:22.359
and it's like very like it's a very truthful account

492
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because the person is actually sharing it. It's not like

493
00:30:25.200 --> 00:30:29.640
a you know, you also have like people send in

494
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reports and they can be read, which is great, but

495
00:30:32.279 --> 00:30:36.440
I think actual audible interviews are good as well from

496
00:30:36.440 --> 00:30:40.079
the witness. And I think if we keep going with that,

497
00:30:40.200 --> 00:30:43.200
eventually more and more people are just going to be

498
00:30:43.920 --> 00:30:46.680
more comfortable, like, oh I can share now, It's okay.

499
00:30:46.799 --> 00:30:49.440
Everyone's doing it. I've seen that happen over the last

500
00:30:49.440 --> 00:30:52.200
few years. I think it's a really important thing that

501
00:30:52.279 --> 00:30:56.119
people realize that hey, it's okay to share what happened.

502
00:30:56.160 --> 00:30:57.839
I'm not going to be looked at as crazy anymore.

503
00:30:58.119 --> 00:30:59.319
I'm not going to lose my job.

504
00:31:00.240 --> 00:31:01.599
That there's something to it. Yeah.

505
00:31:01.640 --> 00:31:03.440
Absolutely, yeah.

506
00:31:03.480 --> 00:31:07.519
So yeah, I'll tell you when I even when I

507
00:31:07.559 --> 00:31:10.079
talk to people that I believe in it now that

508
00:31:10.240 --> 00:31:12.759
I kind of get laughed up to, you know, like

509
00:31:13.240 --> 00:31:14.400
there's still people that are.

510
00:31:14.319 --> 00:31:17.880
Like, no way, oh I do too. It's I think

511
00:31:17.920 --> 00:31:20.119
it's not as much as it back in the day.

512
00:31:20.200 --> 00:31:22.119
But I've had a few people that kind of just

513
00:31:22.160 --> 00:31:25.559
walk away, which is fine, that's you know, how they

514
00:31:25.599 --> 00:31:28.039
want to react to it. But I'm having a good

515
00:31:28.039 --> 00:31:31.440
time learning a lot, and I enjoy talking to people

516
00:31:31.839 --> 00:31:35.000
like yourself, Carrie. But you know, thank you so much

517
00:31:35.160 --> 00:31:39.519
for sharing what you experienced back there in two thousand

518
00:31:39.559 --> 00:31:42.559
and eight, you and your kids, and it's just another

519
00:31:42.759 --> 00:31:48.000
interesting thing to know about Massachusetts and connect some dots.

520
00:31:48.000 --> 00:31:52.839
And just thank you for coming on the show today.

521
00:31:53.039 --> 00:31:55.960
Oh you're welcome. Thank you for Collin and interviewing me.

522
00:31:56.559 --> 00:31:58.920
And keep up the good work. You're awesome. I'd love

523
00:31:58.960 --> 00:31:59.559
the work you do.

524
00:32:00.200 --> 00:32:02.640
Thank you so much, Carrie. Hey, if anything else ever

525
00:32:02.680 --> 00:32:06.519
happens out there or you hear anything where you're at,

526
00:32:06.759 --> 00:32:10.640
feel free to reach out and I'd love to check

527
00:32:10.680 --> 00:32:11.079
in with you.

528
00:32:11.440 --> 00:32:18.039
So okay, thanks Jeremiah, take care you two, goodbye.

529
00:32:21.240 --> 00:32:26.319
Quick follow up for this interview was able to reach

530
00:32:26.359 --> 00:32:29.519
out to the zoo across the Connecticut River about if

531
00:32:29.519 --> 00:32:34.279
they've had a white or albino orangutan, and I got

532
00:32:34.359 --> 00:32:41.119
the following information back. The zoo has never had in orangutan,

533
00:32:41.920 --> 00:32:45.559
and we are unaware of any surrounding zoos that have

534
00:32:45.640 --> 00:32:50.720
had an orangutan or any albino primates. Best of luck

535
00:32:50.759 --> 00:32:51.519
in your research.

536
00:32:57.200 --> 00:32:57.839
So there you go.

537
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