The Monsters are Waiting for You | New York

0:00 Welcome to Big for Society. If you have Bigfoot activity to report from the same areas discussed in this episode, please reach out to me directly after this episode. And if you'd like to be on the podcast to discuss a personal Bigfoot encounter, please reach out to me directly at bigfo Society at gmail dot com. Do you wish there was more Big for Society to listen to you every week? Well there is now. If you become a supporting member over at Patreon, you get a special members only episode every single week on Wednesdays, and sometimes even more episodes. Head on over to Patreon dot com. Forward slash the Big for Society and now let's get on with the show. All right, Big for Society. You've got the privilege of talking to Randy tonight. Randy's an individual that left a comment on the YouTube channel on a recent Western New York video, and so I reached out back to him and thankfully Randy was able to come onto the show. So he's here tonight. How are you doing, sir.

1:00 I'm doing good. Thanks for calling me. Absolutely, it's a pleasure to talk to you tonight. Is there anything else that our listeners would need to know? About you for context before we get into it. Well, let's say I'll be sixty four this year, So this is what I'm talking about, happened almost fifty years ago roughly. But other than that, Claire as a bell in my mind. Well, Randy, I would say, I'd say, we're ready to go, so feel free to take us back as far back as we need to go. You're saying about fifty years ago, and I'm going to let you take over from here, all right. Well, as far as the setting was, it was around this time of the year in January. There was a lot of snow on the ground. Back then, we used to get anywhere from four to six feet of snow on the ground all winter long. And what we would do is we would go up to a friend of mine's barn to play hockey or per basketball at night.

1:54 And one night we didn't play basketball. We were watching TV at his house and one o'clock at night and Steve, the individual who just actually happened to had to go home. It's because the curfew. So I was going to go with him, but my brother talked me into staying because he wanted to stay till eleven o'clock and if I would have went home, he would have gotten in trouble, and then I wouldn't. And so this way either we were both what got in trouble, were both would have got in trouble. So I stayed up there. So Steve leaves about ten o'clock and normally at the twenty minute and a half hour walked for him to get home.

2:37 So we're sitting there watching the rest of the TV show, and it was about ten to fifteen minutes after Steve left. Danny's mother yells up, Hey, pick up the phone. Steve's on the phone. You wanted to talk to you. Tell Randy and Nick next to my brother that they need to call their dad to get it right home because there's monsters in the field and they're going to grab them. And we're like, what's he talking about. So Danny goes down and talks to Steve on the phone. Steve's hysterical. He's like, how'd you get home so fast? It's only ten minutes. Usually, you know it takes you another fifteen minutes to get home. He's like, there's something in the field. There's three of them. They jumped out on the road and almost grabbed me. Tell Randy and Nick. They can't walk home to get their dad to pick them up.

3:25 So we're like, yeah, okay. So Nick calls up my dad and he says, Dad, you got to come pick us up. And my Dad's like, yeah, okay, you guys just don't want to walk home in the snow. So he was a jokester and he would have ribbed us when he come picked us up, like, oh, you guys are wusses. You know you don't want to walk through the snow. You know you can walk home, blah blah blah. Back then, you know you're tough. So he come up to pick us up and he was real, real straight and serious. He's no joking around. And we're like, Dad, what's up? What's up? He goes, Man, you won't believe it. Check out the tracks. I'll show you. So we get down the road. It was probably maybe a quarter mile down the road from the farmhouse, and you could see the way the field set up. Back then, it was a big field and it probably won't a good eighth of a mile to the woods. And when my dad shined the headlights down into the field, you could see the tracks of three individuals walking up through the snow as two adults and a little one, and you could see where they had jumped over the snow bank. Great when Steve was walking by, and I think he was just timing that he happened to walk by when they were jumping over the snow bank onto the road, but either way, when they landed on the road, they surrounded him and you could see where his footprints were, and you could see the footprints of the bigfoot. He called them little bigfoot because he said they weren't those little one you know, was like five six and maybe seven

4:57 eight feet tall. They weren't really big big footpoot. They were monsters, he said. And the one, the biggest one, reached out and was just about ready to grab him when he got wings on his feet and he started running, and you could see his individual footprints for each step he took was fifteen foot strides. And he ran all the way home like that. That's how he got home so fast, and you could see where the three individuals followed after him for about maybe fifty feet. Then they climbed up over the snow bank and they were heading over towards Lake Erie, which was frozen at the time, so that's how the story went as far as what happened.

5:43 And the next day when I went to school, I rode the school bus extra and I went up by in the daytime and you could see the tracks coming out of the woods in the snow coming over, and you could see everything happening still in the snow and on the road and stuff. And it stayed like that probably for I don't know, maybe a couple of days till the snow filled it in again. But where they came out of there was a big swampy area, and I think to this day it's still inaccessible as far as the swamp goes. And they were coming up out of the valley down which two forty runs through, which will take you all the way into Pennsylvania pretty much Allegheny State Park area, and I think they were walking up the railroad track which is abandoned now. And when they got up to that area, they crossed up over the hill. We're going to go over East Hill, And this happened on col Road and Cold and they were going to go across East Hill down into the valley up Brown Hill. And when you go over Brownhill and before you get to Lake Erie, that's Eden, and from what I hear, there's a lot of sightings going on in Eden right now. So pretty much that's that's about it for what happened there, except for I saw Steve fifty years ago before he passed away last year, and I happened to mention it to him. I said, hey, Steve,

7:14 you remember the little Bigfoot? And when I said that to him, he turned white as a ghost and started shaking, and I said, oh, sorry, Steve, I didn't mean to scare you, but we're the elly ones that are at our lives because it was at my brother's funeral and he had passed away. My dad was gone. I don't know if Danny's still around, but he wasn't there to see the actual footprints that night. So I said, everybody's gone. You know, you weren't the only ones left that really happened, didn't. He goes, yeah, that happened. I said, well, I talked about this story every once in a while. I'll save my Bigfoot encounter and he goes, I never told the sew and over fifty years he was. It scared the crap out of me. I don't like thinking about it.

7:58 And that's pretty much the uh after of this story. Thank you, Rennie. That's that's a that's a wild account, you know. It's it's so interesting how accounts are coming out of the woodwork about this Western New York area. Why do you think there's so many sightings in this area of the state. Well, I think the Alleghany Park has a lot to do with it, because that's a very big area in itself, and you have the valleys that come up, and like I said, when the lake freezes, they can walk right across the lake erie into Canada. And I think that's what they're doing, hanging out waiting for the lake to freeze.

8:44 Oh okay, okay, So that's actually was something I was gonna ask you. So they could literally just if it was frozen, they could walk right over into Ontario. Right. The friends of mine that lived in South Buffalo when Freezer Queen was up, they told me that the timwolf used to run across the lake and they would raid the dumpsters at Treezer Point from Canada. So if the timberwolves can do that, the big foot poots can do the same thing. That's a great point. I mean, it's like just go over for a buffet from the dumpsters. There and go and if you look, I think I'm not sure. I think it's Point Peter or something like that and on the Canada side. But anyhow, that's like the narrowest point of the lake right there from Eden and Canada. If you look on the map, it's not very wide right there, so and it's also shallower there too, I think, so that would be like a perfect spot for them to cross.

9:40 Absolutely from what you remember of these tracks, were the tracks that you saw were remember the try to remember the two footmarks. Were they next to each other or were they in a straight line or how are they walking? All right? The snow that they were walking through was I would say four foot deep, and they walked through that like nothing, and I think they were holding on to the younger one's hand to help them help him get through or her whateveryone it was, but they had it was I mean, it looked like train tracks as far as how straight they were. There was just straight, perfectly straight lines coming up out of it. So you really couldn't see individual as far as the footprints, but you could see where they were walking through, and it was upright, it was like a person walking through the snow, and that time of the year, the bears would be hibernating, And I know what deer looked like walking running through the snow, and there's no way it was deer tracks.

10:51 You said, this is about fifty years ago, So this puts it about nineteen seventy four ish. Right, It was great. See we had a major blizzard in seventy seven, and I think it was like right before that happened seventy four to seventy seven in between that area. Interesting around that time period, were there also other accounts of people seeing something that might have been similar to these monsters that you saw. Well, what was weird is I was talking to a friend of mine just the other day and we were discussing about how I was going to be talking to you, and he brought up how where I was telling you the swamp is and where that one field is on top of the hill. Well, if you go through the woods and come out down on the other side of the woods before Lower East Hill Road through the horse ranch there and the people that owned it, you know that property goes right up and you know their fields go right up into the woods. And if you keep going straight you'd come out in the other field where the Bigfoot come out of. But anyhow, they had problems with somebody or something throwing rocks and branches at their house one summer, and they were blaming it on the neighborhood kids. And I think there might even be police reports on that.

12:22 That's very interesting. But they never found out what it was. And it wasn't until he brought it up and he goes, yeah, remember how they were having trouble with and they were blaming me for throwing the stones at their house. I said, yeah, that was about the time the bigfoots were up there. I wonder if that's what was going on, if they were hanging out and throwing the rocks at their house. Okay, and this is all in cold in New York. Yeah, yeah, cold, and yeah up on East Hill. Did Steve ever describe what they looked like? He just said they weren't tall, but they looked like Bigfoot, and it was a dark so he couldn't really give out a color. But he didn't really go into any any descriptions with me as far as that goes.

13:17 Now, in that time mid seventies when you would have heard Bigfoot, what was it that you had in your mind at that time. Are there certain movies you saw, certain TV shows? Well about that time. The famous was the Patterson is at the name of its film? Yeah, yeah, that one. I saw that one at the theaters. So that kind of like you know, sparked you know, the Bigfoot as far as getting you aware of something out there. But other than that, there really wasn't you know, nobody really thought about it or like I said, with the sticks and the stones and all that, nobody put together that it could have been them throwing the stuff at them.

14:03 You know. I didn't even really think about it until just recently that hey, maybe because it was the same time period. Sure, so you had seen now I know some people when they went to the theaters, like it would be shown before movies in little like clip reels. Is that kind of how you saw it? Yeah. Yeah, we want to see a major attraction, and one of the reasons we want to see the major attraction was to see the Bigfoot movie. It was only like I can't remember, maybe five or ten minute long. Oh that's incredible. So like it was it was hyped up that hey there's a Bigfoot film. It's going to be shown. But you got to see this movie to see it. That's pretty cool. How far?

14:44 Yeah, yeah, go ahead, Oh go ahead. I say that it was like the very first time that it was ever publicly aired. Interesting, how long before this incident where Steve saw the monsters? How much of a time frame between you guys seeing that in the theater and then Steve having the sighting of the three monsters. I don't think he ever saw it because it was just me, my brother, and my other neighbor who drove us there, So it was just the three of us that saw that movie at the time. I don't think he ever saw it. But it was about the same time in the early seventies.

15:26 Okay, gotcha. Interesting And before that point, had there ever been any talk of Bigfoot in your town or anyone reading books or anything? I thought, big for society? Who will be right back after these messages. We used to do a lot of horseback riding because I grew up on the farm. We had horses and cows and all that. And the one time we were riding back in the woods, we got off the horses and the one kid that we were with. We never took them seriously, but he went down by the creek and he's like, oh, look, I see bigfoot tracks, and we wound up making plaster casts of him. Whatever happened to him, I don't know, but we never took it seriously because we don't know if he took his shoe off and put him in the mud, you know what I'm saying, So we never can That's what kind of person he was. He couldn't take him seriously that way.

16:40 So I don't know if he was joking with us, or if they were real, or you know. Whatever happened to the plaster cast that I can't remember, but that was way before that even happened, because we were like little kids back then. I don't know, pre teen. Oh that's interesting. Do you remember remember how long those casts approximately would have been. Well, they were big, I know that, and they looked like they were bigger than what his foot was. So he kept swearing he didn't make them. But I would say nowadays, they would probably like a size twelve or thirteen foot okay, and from what Steve would say, and they weren't big. And that was about the size of the tracks that you know, we were seeing. Like I said, you couldn't actually make out the actual you could see they were barefoot tracks, but because of the snow, you know what I'm saying, that you couldn't like really make out a good impression because of the way the snow.

17:40 It wasn't like a slushy snow at the. Time, right right. The snow is tricky because if it melts at all, the track gets weird. Unless there are some instances where the tracks look really good, but those are far and few between for sure. Yeah, because in the field, what was happening as they were walking through, they were filling in behind them, you know what I mean. So the actual footprint was probably in two feet of snow, but you could tell it was people walking through because you know, we walked through the snow so much. You could tell that it was somebody that definitely bipedal. It wasn't something that was on four legs. It was two legged the way they were walking, and it was definitely three of them.

18:23 Now, this area with the tracks being cast, how far away from where Steve had his incident? Was that. It was all in the same area. Okay, I'd say within a three mile radius. My goodness, wow. Yeah, because I grew up on one hundred and fifty acre farm and we butted up to the valley and where I was, we had one hundred eighty acre or one hundred and eighty foot gorge running through the middle of it. So it didn't get developed or logged off. So all the area, like I said, it was all old farmland. Nobody did any logging back then, so it was all old growth forests, a lot of farmland, hayfield, vegetable gardens. I mean, they could walk up the whole valley and eat you know, corn all the way up or wheat, whatever it is left in the fields. You know what I'm saying. Absolutely, there was a lot of foods supply for them, and I think that's why they're hanging out and eating, because that's a lot of growing out there still is going on. And I think because there's not so much growing anymore in the other areas, because the whole area around there, Easter Orchard Park up on the hill there, it used to be off farmland that you know, people did a lot of crop growing, but now it's all over in the Eden area, and so I thinking that's why they're concentrating over there more because of food supplies.

19:54 There Okay, have you been hearing accounts come out of the Eaton area. I'm on to eating Facebook site, and from what the locals are saying, there's been a lot of reports. Oh really, yeah, I mean from what I've been seeing, at least maybe one a month or a couple every two or three months, somewhere around in there. And this is current day. Yeah, yeah, like just within months. Oh my goodness. Okay, you know, thinking back to the same timeframe where Steve, you know, encountered the monsters and and all that was going on, were there also other weird things going on in the town, like maybe things being seen in the sky, or pets going missing, people hearing weird noises, anything like that.

20:50 There was rabbits and stuff going missing, but they were blaming them on bobcats. But I did a lot of hunting, and I never saw any tracks of bobcats until like later later years, you know, like in the eighties when they started really coming back around again. Gotcha. So I don't think from from because my one friend he lived down by see there's another park up by us, to Chestnut Ridge Park, and my one friend lived down on the bottom of the hill, which is right at the beginning a Chestnut Ridge park and he used to get his rabbit cages. Raided a lot, and they were trying to blame it on bobcats. But like I said, we've never seen any bobcats around there, so I don't know what that would have been. And then dogs and dogs were missed going missing in that neighborhood too.

21:42 Oh really good. Back then there wasn't. Yeah, there wasn't a lot of coyotes back then either. In fact, there was hardly any. You wouldn't you wouldn't never see a coyote because now you could blame it on coyotes if they're missing, But back then there wasn't stuff like that. There was hardly any unders around back then. Are we talking like one or two dogs or was it a thing where like there are a lot. Of dogs being Oh enough, they were be mentioned in the local papers. Okay, gotcha, sure, sure, use my. Dad always got to you know, I think it was the Orchard Park b or something like that. But their now wi'd be like, oh so and so reported their dog missing, or they would find it mauled or something.

22:26 Like that, you know, thinking of your early years. Sorry, I don't want to I don't want to skip over what I just heard. So they would find it mauled. Yeah, I think they had reports of the rabbits like being mauled, you know, like half eaten and stuff. That's why I'm thinking if it was a cat, they probably would have dragged it with them. And I think they found a dog or two like that maled like that, and. You know, not to get maybe all right, when you say mauled, are you saying like limbs were torn off or what do you mean by that? I wouldn't. I really can't. I would think, you know, like the insides eating and stuff like that. Sure, yeah, you know, I guess. I don't know. I was probably twelve fourteen, and they, I don't know, trying to you know, not give us too much information at that age, not to wut to scare us or whatever. Yeah.

23:26 Absolutely around that time, in the same area around that time, were there ever any things going on with like cows being found messed with or mutilator or anything at. That No, I wouldn't. I wouldn't say do we have any problems with the livestock? Got you? I'm not pretty sure. How about the one farmer up if he was having the one dairy farmer, because he was the only one who had a big, real big herd up on the hill where this was taking place. I mean where I was at. We were probably about maybe a mile down further, but we had the animals in the big, big wood. But we had a lot of dogs in the yard, so nothing really would come in already heard because of the dog. They kept it pretty you know secure.

24:17 Yeah, that makes sense thinking about your earlier years. Were there any other times where things happened that kind of had to do with with bigfoot or monsters or weird creatures in the town. No, that was that was the only time. You know, we kind of took it, you know, knew what happened, and you know, nobody as far as the school kids, we didn't you know, say he was a liar, you know, you know, everybody would believed what he was saying, and it kind of like just gotten people's background, And you know, I thought about it, and I always kept my eyes out looking for it, but I never really came across anything as far as like that up there. Again.

25:05 Now, some people after they have experiences that they've been involved with like this, Well, I'll ask you, do you think this affected the rest of your life in any way as you grew older and progressed through adulthood. Well, it definitely made me a believer. I mean, I always knew that there could be a chance, but after this, you know, he raced doubts. But I've had other encounters too. When I was up in northern California, I had two of them one night, howling back and forth for probably good six to eight hours. Oh, Randy, you are here, we go, Here we go.

25:50 I'm going to say, listeners real quick. The only thing I knew about Randy's story is that there was this situation with Steve and the monsters in the snow. But this is very interesting. So you went, you found your way out in northern California. About what part was that out there? What area right up in they called it the Emeralds try and go up in Humboldt County. We're up by the town of Dinsmore, up on a mountain called Buck Mountain. Mountain that sounds super familiar. Were we were. The way the scenario went was the a friend of mine bought the property and it was abandoned for ten years before we got up there, and it was the end of April May around there, yeah, around somewhere around May. I think it was when we got up there. But anyhow, when I first got up to the property, nobody was up there for ten years.

26:54 So this is my theory. The bigfoots weren't used to anybody being there, and so I was up there with my girl, and there was the guy who owned it and another guy. Well, they got up in the morning and drove off and were gone all day. So I'm thinking the bigfoot heard them drive off and didn't know that me and her were still up there. So as the sun went down, the way it was set up, there was a ridge behind the cabin about maybe a quarter mile long, and on one end of it the one was standing, and on the other end, directly behind the cabin, the other one was standing. And every time I walked out of the cabin as the sun was going down, the one would howl very loud, then the other one would howl back, and they would continuously do that the whole time I was outside, and this went on for a good six to eight hours. The sun went down, it was dark. We're the only ones up there.

28:10 I think we intruded on them because they weren't aware that. And the thing is when I found out that the Peterson film was filmed in the valley down below from where we were staying. So but anyhow, they sat there and howled back and forth and back and forth, and they were all of a sudden howling up a racket and they were going just crazy after, like I said, a good six So let's see. It started when the sun was going down, which would have been about maybe eight o'clock one two o'clock in the morning. Was when the two guys came back. As they were driving up the mountain dirt road, they heard them far off, and they started a racket, back and forth, back and forth, back and forth, right up until they pulled up to the gate, unlocked the gate, and started pulling down the driveway into where the cabin was. As soon as that happened, they it was dead quiet.

29:11 When you were hearing these screams and yells. Were you actually able to see them as well? No, it scared me. I would go in the house and the girl I was what. She was like, what's going on? What's going on? I said, you don't want to know. I didn't want to tell her because she would have wanted to leave, you know, the next morning, so I didn't want to get her that scared. But every time I walked out, they just weren't great. And the thing is, if I would have thought about it, I see, I didn't find out there was a ridge up there until like weeks later. If I would have known that, I would have went up looking for tracks. But I didn't know that. I thought it was just you know, woods and stuff like that. But then I found out that there was actually like a logging road up there on that ridge. And so the one was standing at one end and the other one was standing at the other end. And we stayed up there for probably about two months. And that was the only time that that happened was the first night we were there.

30:10 But a friend of mine went up there and was staying up there, and he wound up staying all summer long. And he said every time he was up there by himself, they would do that. Big for society. Who will be right back after these messages? My goodness? Yeah, But unfortunately we passed away last year or two. We're all getting up in their age. But because he was telling me, because I told him what happened, to me and I told him what they were, and he goes, that's what they are. I said, yeah, Oh, they were trying to tell me they were this and they were that.

30:59 I said, Kevin, think about it. Listen to how big of a lung them things must have had to have to make the sound they were. I go, you heard. You grew up on a farm. You've heard bulls bellow. That was louder than a bull bellowing. You know, there was no bear. It was something with a big, huge set a lungs. That is so, so, so very interesting. What approximate year would this have been that you were up there? I was up there it was I think like two thousand and six. Wow. And he was up there for Pride from that time to like maybe twoy ten or so. And he said every time he was up there and they would leave him up there by himself, he would hear them.

31:46 Is it a thing that you would hear other accounts from people you knew in the same area, not just on this Buck Mountain area, but also in other areas around Dinsmore. Unfortunately I didn't get to meet too many people I was out there to really start talking about that. But me and My girlfriend had a joke every time we were leaving the mountain was keep camera ready, We're going to see a big foot. You know. We'd always be looking, but we never saw anything, but we were always on the lookout for him. Oh wow, Yeah, that's that's absolutely incredible up in that area. Were there any other weird things that happened or things that just didn't really make sense?

32:28 Like I said, I didn't really get a chance to stay up there that long, you know, to get that acclimated to it. So that was just my only experience I had with them at the time. You know, I wish I could have got more stories out of Kevin, but you know, he just told me that he had he had the same experience, and it was the same scenario where they would stand on the ridge and one would stand on one end and one would stand on the other, and they would bow at night from when the sun went down to like about midnight. The sound that you heard, have you ever heard anything else like it in your life?

33:08 Only only on a recording of a bigfoot documentary that said, this is a bigfoot recording. I've never heard any other animal make that noise. Do you remember what incumentary. Sorry, geez no, I can't remember, but it's like every time I've heard it through you know, multiple documentaries. You know, I wouldn't say a lot, but I've heard it and it's like, that's what I heard in California. That's it, that's bigfoot. Wow. Can you kind of walk us through. I see that there's a road that runs through Dinsmore and you've got a store down there, And how hard and how long did it take to get up to where this area was that you would be hanging out at.

33:56 The road that we would go down. But I from what I was told, I was the first person to drive up it because there's a part of the mountain that sticks out that you got to kind of pretty much launch yourself off and hope you land flat on the top of it. So nobody likes going up it. But that's called Burr Mountain Road. But you go through the National Forest. So if you can find that Burr Road or Burr Mountain Road, that takes us up to the top of the mountain, but you would get because there's another one down I can't remember the name of the road, but it's closer to to see. There was a store called the Dinsmore Store right, and if you come if you start at the Densmore Store and head, I think it would be south back towards into into the Humboldt County, not up towards that other county I was telling you about. I can't remember the name, but if you had back that way, the first road you come to on the right, we'll take you up to the top of the mountain. But that takes you into an into either forests, federal land or state land. I think there's like a parking area that you can park there, but if you can drive all the way through that, and we used to go through that forest land and then we'd get on the other side and you'd be in private land and you'd go like down the valley, up the valley, up around and down and up and

35:29 we where we were at. I don't think there was too many more camps above us, but it wasn't too what I mean, the next you would go down the valley. When you come up, the next one was the tree line for Buck Mountain. So like after our valley, after our where we were, if you went down the next valley and up and also there was three rivers that came together there, and I was told that back when the Indians were in control of the land, before the White man came around, there was a big battle for control of that point right there. And if you go up on that where that field is, you can still see the artifacts from that battlefield all this, you know, you know, the stone weaponry and stuff. Oh wow. So but from where that point is though, if you if you're standing on that point, there's three two rivers come down and merge into one that go into the Pacific.

36:32 And one of them rivers that come down there was the one that they filmed the Patterson video on Okay in testing that was on the back and that was on the backside of where we were at. Okay. So would you say, from what you remember, did it take like an hour to get up there. Or oh at least yeah, yeah, I would say at least an hour, maybe two, Okay, I know we would we when I would have to go try to find doctors and stuff like that, and we'd have to go to Reading, which was the closest town, and it would take us six hours just to get there. So we would get up and leave at like four in the morning, just to get to reading at like ten eleven o'clock.

37:27 That's that's wild. So I asked that pretty much to see the the chances of it being a person that was coming up there to prank you guys is pretty low. No, one's just gonna no. There's nobody get out, nobody there, nobody, And nobody knew we were there either. Yeah, because it was an abandoned property for ten years exactly. Oh my goodness, that must have been nuts up there. Even the big pots didn't know we were there. So they started me walking around. Oh, I'll never forget that boy. When he first started screaming, how. Long, like, let's say, from what you remember, when it would start screaming, how long could it draw out a single scream for?

38:20 Oh, I would say thirty seconds, a minute, maybe longer, I mean, as long as it wanted to really, it would let out a big, long bellow, and then within I'd say a minute or two, the other one would let out another bellow, and then they would probably calm down for you know, a couple of minutes, and then the next then he'd go again, r and R back and forth. The whole time I'd be outside, I was out there five minutes, ten minutes, twenty minutes. You know. However many times they would do it, I don't know. I never counted it, right, Did hearing that or being in close proximity that, did that affect you you physically or emotionally or in any way when you were in that situation.

39:07 Well, it was scary, but I wasn't like, I didn't feel endangered or threat you know, I didn't feel my life was threatened or anything. And the thing was they were stationary. They weren't you know, they weren't like moving. They were in the same spot the whole time for them, six or eight hours, however long it was. They never moved. So if they were, you know, if they were going to do anything threatening, they would have been getting closer. And I didn't even think they would have made noise like that, right. I think they were more scared with themselves and just like confused as what I'm thinking, And they probably thought by doing that they would get us to leave, but we had no way of leaving. So but when I would go in the house, they would stop.

40:00 It's wild that this happened around two thousand and six. That's the crazy part about it. To me, is that it is. I mean it's not I guess it's not super recent, but I mean kind of resent, right, I mean it's not like this is a nineteen seventies account. This is two thousand and six. Just wild. Yeah, I haven't even recenter one. But unfortunately I can't share it with you because the person who had involved what doesn't want me to disclose it. But that happened within three years? Oh wow, wow, that's that's that's wild. Yeah. Wild. I'll try to get it out. I'll try to get it out of earth, but she just doesn't want people digging around her house and you know, investigating it.

40:42 That's the problem now. And I get it. But if she ever does get to the point where she wants to share what's going on, you know, she always she can always reach out. I'm sure you can provide that. You can always pass on my email address and all that good stuff. Yeah. I talked you're right before or this evening, told what was going on, and I was like, he's sure. She's like no, no, like, oh okay, But she goes call me up and let me know how how it turned out. So I think she just wants to see it. But I'm getting stammed or something exactly. Yeah, that a lot of people. Yeah, I mean, and and rightfully so, because you know, most people they share these stories and they end up you know, people are laughing at them or making fun at him, making fun of them, and it's not normal.

41:33 Yeah, that's what happened with her. She tried to disclose it and right away she got shut down. So she doesn't Yeah, she doesn't want to do anything now, unfortunately. Yeah. Yeah, that's why it's important that there's a place like you know, this show and a few other shows where people can can share what they've experienced and not have to worry about being made fun of and things like that. Now, another thing that I wanted to ask you is just to make sure sometimes when when people are experiencing things like this, then other weird things will happen in their lives that are not Bigfoot related, but they might be considered more no paranormal or things that really don't make sense. Is that the case with yourself, Randy.

42:17 Or you on there story? All? Right? Now? I grew up in a farmhouse that was built in the eighteen thirties and it was haunted and the last time I was able to live up there for any amount of time. I had quite a bit of a well, I had an actual encounter, and then over the years I've had other encounters too, as far as hearing weird things. Oh, I don't know if you that's in New York or yeah, Yeah, that's in the same area where the incident with Steve happened. That's when where I grew up on Coal Road, Okay, and where we grew up, it's considered Orchard Park where we were the last house in Orchard Park before he got into cold and so we were up on the hill, but it was still considered Orchard Park, but it was farmland back then. But like I said, I grew up in the old farmhouse and it had a lot of history.

43:18 It used to be a stagecoach stopped between Rochester and Buffalo. They would come from Rochester, they would stop there overnight before they went into Buffalo, and then in the morning they would go from there to Buffalo. But my dad he got Alzheimer's and when he got Alzheimer's, he started a channeling a lot of spirits and we bought my dad and my mother bought the place in the sixties and when we first moved in. They bought it from old people, and they must have channeled in the spirits, because there was a lot of activity going on when we first moved in. But I was real little, so I don't remember much of what happened back then. But my mother had the house exercise blessed more than once and had the priest walk around it with the holy water, and they had to try to get it calmed down, and that seemed to help. But when my dad got sick, he started channeling in the spirits, and he used to see my grandfather and grandmother all the time, and they used to walk around the house with them. But my brother he got back into the picture and he was terminal, and so they both were channeling and the spirits. And my brother said he used to see a tall, a tall guy in a brown suit standing at the foot of the bed looking at him all the time. My dad said, he's seen him too. And my experience is

44:48 the one I think can recall good or a couple. But one I recalled good is I was up there by myself working because I used to, you know, do work on the farm, and and Dad and Nick they went they had doctor's appointments, so they were going at the doctor, so I was the only one there. So I'm working down in the basement and I hear the front door open, close, footsteps, table moving the chairs and that, and people sitting down, and I'm like, oh, making batter home, all right. So I continue working about another five ten minutes and I go out, walk in looking the driveway, and I'm the only one in the house. There's nobody there, so whatever, I didn't go upstairs. Then I just kept on working outside.

45:41 Probably good coach. But the one, the one, the one that really gets me the most is like that that was probably jeez. I would say like in the nineties, that probably happened. But one that happened the most recent was the last time I was up there. It was probably around i'd say twenty and ten, maybe somewhere like that if when Anyhow, I got up in the middle of the night to go to the bathroom. And when I walked the way the way the house was set up upstairs, there was a hallway with bedrooms op to the side. So I was walking down the hallway to the bathroom at the end of the hallway, and when I got into the doorway, at the end of the hallway. The ghost was trying to walk out the doorway as I was walking in, and we walked into each other. I'll never forget. I felt to hit my chest and when I when it hit my chest, I opened my eyes and I seen something white. And the way that the bathroom was set up is when you'd walk in, it was rectangle shape, and so like the doorway was on the left end of the rectangle, and so if you look to the right, that's how it opened up. And there was a long counter with the sink on it, and at the end of the sink, on the wall that you would look at, there was a window and that was cracked about two inches and then the op when you walk in, if

47:11 you look at the next the wall facing you, that's where the tub was, and there was another window there. So this thing hit me in the chest. It jumped up onto the counter and there was towels and paper on there, and it ran across there and they all started rustling. It tried to jump out the window and it hit the window. I can remember here it gonn bunk and it couldn't get out the window, and so it ran around on the wall and it tried to get out the window in where the tub was, and that was closed and it couldn't and the shower curtains and the curtain on the windows were all rustling, and so it come around again. Now this is all about maybe four feet off the ground, and all I could see is this white streak going around. And so it come around again, and it hit me in the chest.

47:58 And it did this three times faster than I can say it. And on the third time, it got to the end of the counter where the window was, and it jumped up and it made it through the cracks and it went up. And we were remodeling the house at the time, and so the soppit was tore open right there, and there was a hole there and it jumped up there into the attic and I said, well, I'm not going to the bathroom. I turned around and went back, and my girlfriend was staying with me, and she's like, you're going to the bathroom. I said, you don't want to know, No, you're right, don't tell me. Right, Oh my goodness.

48:39 Wow. Well, well, well, thank you for sharing that as well, Randy. But the history of the house is, like I said, it used to be the stagecoach stop right, and it also was a funeral parlor and they would lay out people. They would lay out people in the living room because up the road, not even an eight mile up the road, there's a Pioneer cemetery and on the other side of the road there used to be a church, but the church burned down. The cemetery is still there. The cemetery is haunted. I've had haunted experiences in the cemetery. But what they would do is there was a special door they had on the side of the house that they would take the caskets out during the funeral. And when my dad moved up when we first moved up there, my dad and my uncle's they boarded up that door and closed it up so nobody could use it again.

49:37 But so that has a lot to do with the spirits. I think too, is because of the the way the funerals were being held there. But like I said, the cemetery, which isn't even that far down the road, is haunted, and that place there, like I said that, I got some stories on that. There was one time we were four wheeling and we had a dirt dirt trail that went by the cemetery. So we were coming up out of the woods and it was dark and it was in the fall, so all the leaves were off the trees and in the bushes in the cemetery. The light on the truck shined on a white rose in the middle of these bushes. So the guy driving the truck, he was the same one who took me and my brother to see the Bigfoot movie. It was right around that same time too. He goes, oh, wow, look at that white rose. I'm going to go out and pick it.

50:36 So he stops the truck, he jumps out and he goes to picket. As he's reaching for the rose, the bushes start shaking and the rose turns into a wisp of dust and smoke and disappears. He jumped in the truck and we took off as fast as we could go. Well that is so it just disappeared into just kind of boom, it's out of it. Yeah, it's just like yeah, like it was a cloud, but it was a rose, a white rose. Yeah. But it was weird because, like I said, there was no vegetation. We weren't taking We were, you know, young, like, oh, I'm going to go pick that rose, it's like, well, what's the roe is doing growing now? Anyhow? Yeah, that was really weird. And the thing was that was in the area where the infants were buried, because they had a one corner where they had all the babies buried.

51:29 Oh sure, yeah, yeah, that's oh man, it's some. But you know, personally, I stick with the I stick with the bigfoot stuff because that other stuff can get, you know, pretty wild, bigfoots wild. Ye, thinking about it by myself, I don't like to think of the spirits because they founded me too easy. It feels like you have had some really interesting connections to things over the years, Randy, for sure. Yeah, I feel fortunate and blasted. I mean, I experience. It's a lot of things. I tell people stories and they just like, how can you make stuff like this up? You know, it's I don't have any good of an imagination. I wish I did it. It's because because I'm not making it up. I mean, this love sounds pretty legit to me. But Randy, thank you so much for coming on the show. I appreciate it.

52:17 I work on the other one there and maybe we can get some pictures set. Yes, then you can see what I was talking about them put prints in the snow. She's got a pictures of Aaron mud but it's identical. And this one there's two two big ones and three little ones running around. Oh wow, identical tracks, identical. The adults walk on the outside and the little ones walk on the inside, so that's how they travel. Interesting stuff. And yeah, feel free to you know, to reach out at a later time if this individual it feels like they're able to come forward. Always an open invitation.

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