The North Shore Sasquatch | Massachusetts

0:00 You're listening to Bigfoot Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring you first hand encounters from people who say they've seen something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere, and each one leaves us with more questions than answers. These are the voices of the people who've lived it. To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that just might change the way you see the woods forever. So stay with us. All I pick for the Society. You've get the privilege of talking to Steve today. Steve is a listener who reached out for north of Boston, Massachusetts, which I'm excited to hear what he's experienced. We don't get a lot of I guess you can maybe consider that the North Shore area on the show, so as privileged to have him on. But Steve, how are you doing today, sir?

0:52 I'm doing fine? How are you? Jeremiah doing great? Always a great afternoon when I'm able to talk to people from all over the US about what they've experienced. But Steve I want to make sure you have the time to share your experiences today, so you know, feel free to take us back to when you first started experiencing things and what it is that you experienced. Surely no problem. First of all, I'd like to say that in my mind, I shouldn't have ever seen this thing, and I don't think. I don't think that I don't know this, So I don't want to say there's some kind of plan or anything. But all I'm saying is I had I had no thought about ever seeing one. To kind of explain my reason, and I need to take you back to nineteen sixty nine and nineteen seventy, I grew up in Cambridge, and in Cambridge there are two big universities, this Harvard University and this MIT, and both these universities, I think that the Father's so called of Cambridge kind of you know, trying to do They reached out to these universities to try to get him to do certain things. I'm sure that there's some kind of some kind of deal they have. Anyways, in sixty nine, I was part of this program called Challenge, and what they did was one of the things they did was they gave us the opportunity because a lot

2:24 of Cambridge kids to stay in a lodge, a ski lodge up in Jackson, New Hampshire, for like two weeks and it was really a great place to stay and to be at it was it was so good. In fact, next year, in nineteen seventy, I got the opportunity to be a junior counselor up there for the whole summer and it was the greatest experience ever, especially for a city kid. If I could kind of draw a picture of this place, it was a like a wooden hull that was on the big side, with a lot of rooms, like they had common rooms on the first floor and rooms that you stay in on the second floor. And it was a front of the house and it was the back of the house. So this place was had a mountain in the back, probably went up about maybe a thousand feet or so, and then in the front there was the road I believe at that time it was.

3:24 It was a dead end road. It didn't really go all the way through I think it does today, but across the street was some bushes and on the other side of the bushes was the stream, and it was it was just really a wonderful place to be, and one of the counselors told me that on the other side of the stream they were the beaver Lakes and the Beaver Dam, and you know. For a city kid, I've never seen that. And for the first time in my life, I got the chance to stand on a beaver hutch. But getting back to a story about Bigfoot. As good as the place was, there was one thing out the place that kind of creeped me out, and that was the rear of the house. There was a carriage house. And the carriage house had like a like a standard opening for a door, maybe it was like ten feet wide and maybe fifteen feet tall, and they had like a sixty watt bulb hanging from the inside the middle of the inside that you hit a switch for to turn on.

4:27 And it was creepy in the daytime to me. And what we used to do was throw the trash in there and take it to the dump like maybe twice a week. So one day, while I was at the other house there, I just got this field and I went outside and I seen these kids, some of the campers, some of the younger campers, going into the woodline on the back of the house where the mountain was. So I kind of went half through. I caught up to him and said, hey, what are you kids doing? He said, we wanted to climb the mountain. I said, all right. I mean it was the middle of the day. We weren't doing anything that day, so I said, let's let's go.

5:09 I'm not a great woodsman, and it's not like I can navigate like crazy, but it's like scup the mountain and down the mountain. It really you really couldn't get lost. So we started up and we were on a aa what. Do you call it? What those animal trails and we want to throw the way up and it was this ravine and it was like about eighty feet wide and about maybe one hundred feet deep, maybe one hundred and twenty feet deep, and it was almost straight up and down. So we went to we went to the left to try to see it there's an end to it. And what we what we ended up seeing was there was this cave across on the on the other side of the ravine. And so this is like its sisuous forest, meaning that there's there's leaves that drop all over the place every fall, and you can see on the side of the wall of the of the of the ravine that there were leaves all over the place. And when we saw this cave, it had these weird slabs. The slabs were about as big as a as a hood of like a four f one fifty, and they were kind of kind of molds together with the with the big slab of rock on top of it that was a little bit bigger, and it was like way out of place. It was kind of it kind of made me a little nervous

6:41 because it just didn't look right. It just didn't look right. And I think one of the things. That that I thought about later was that in front of that cave there was like about a seven by five foot platform and there was not one leaf, not one leaf on that platform whatsoever. But you look up down the ravine there was leaves everywhere. So at that time we didn't have like video cameras or telephone cameras. And I suggested to the caves that maybe we had to go back, and not one of them objected. They were ready to go. I think maybe we were all feeling a little weirded by this, and it wouldn't strike me till years later after the event of the internet that maybe the creepiness of the of the carriage house and the fact that there was a cave, or maybe they were more caves.

7:38 I don't know, I could we didn't go that far, and we certainly couldn't see the sign we were on whether there was any kind of that kind of cave there. And I mean the cave was only about five was about five foot high and maybe about four foot wide, but you couldn't see in it because we were above it a little bit and the slab kind of stuck out, and it's just it was. It was just kind of strange to me. I always wanted to always wanted to write the people that own that property now and ask if they've ever seen it or took a page of it or anything. But anyway, that's that's That's one thing. There was another incident where we were were not an incident, but a happenstance where we were taking the kids on a hike through the woods and I cannot remember where we were. We different in the White Mountains, somewhere. We came through the woods to this number road, I guess, and we decided to take a break on the side that we came out of were the woods.

8:42 But on the other side of the road was. This clar cut area that had all these young trees in it and you couldn't really see past. I said, you couldn't see about fifteen feet in. It was just, you know, there's so many trees you couldn't see fast. So I was always the last in line to make sure that we didn't lose anybody. And the guy head in the hiding the. He walked the trip, was up in front, so we got up there into the road. He decided let's take a break, So you know, I'm good with that. I was at the he was up the front, and I was at the back, and I got this. I got this. Really weird feeling. And I'm basing down the road towards him and I'm looking around. So I left to my right, and I got this. When I looked at a seven o'clock position, I got this really bad feeling. It was like it was it was very strange. I've never felt anything like that since I've had I've had other feelings where you know, I was uncomfortable, but nothing like that.

9:51 It was like it was a throbbing from the top of my head to. The to the to the tail of my spinal cord, and I'd turned around. I'd look at him, and then i'd look back. At eight o'clock it would get a little kinky. At seven o'clock, I'd get that kind of rob and feeling, and then I'd do the same thing in the other direction. I must have done it two or three times because when I when I looked up at him, he's looking staring at me and he's going, what Still, He's trying to do it so the kids won't see it, and I just go, I don't know, kind of back to him, and I'd do it again. A couple of times. He says, all right, let's let's let's go kids, let's let's move on that. We we spent like about five minutes there, and as soon as I got about fifty feet away, I felt a lot better and I and I never forgot that, and I always thought that was strange. I had no explanation for it and no reasoning for it. So you know, life goes on. I did some time in the coast Guard and got mad and about eighty five, and then about ninety three, where we were living in Cambridge Under in the house that my brother and mother had purchase while I was away in the Coast Guard, and you know, ninety three, we decided to buy our own house and move.

11:16 So we ended up moving north of Boston, and it's the place we live is a lovely town. And as I want to do, I love to explore. I love to go to different places and check out all the different roads and you know, trying to learn the neighborhood. And so I found this road that was kind. Of obscure, and every now and then they'd close it because of the when it rained, it flooded, it went from asphalt to like a like a dirt road, and then it would, you know, go back to asphalt at some point. And you can tell that the road was barely ever use because it was like it was totally disrespected.

11:59 And by what I mean by that is that people would throw wash machines out at it, you know, on the side of the. Road, and I've seen an oven up there. And there was also a place with one of those those gates that the you know, the park rangers installed, is the metal pipe that goes across with the little ladies that supports it swings back and forth. So after about the third time I went through there, I decided to park and go take a look at the place. So I park and I get out and start walking through the woods. And then the woods clear out because it's it's it leads into a wetland, and so I passed this.

12:42 I passed this pond. The pond's kind of like the ponds is kind of like fifty feet across and about maybe eighty foot long, and it's just had a scrub, you know, a scrub around it. And as I was walking to the I got to the side of the pond, I looked down and I see shotgun shelves. I see like about four I don't know. I think they were maybe a double lot. I'm not sure what they were there. I think they were like red red shotgun shells. I picked one up and take a look at it, and then I'm thinking to myself, geez, I don't want to be around here. People are shooting guns off, and you know, I don't know at that time, I don't know nothing about not in season or anything like that, but I know I didn't it kind of started looking around and I got a feeling like, yeah, I don't want to be there.

13:31 I shouldn't be in this place, so I just left. And it turns out that when I actually saw a bigfoot, it was part of that wetland area. So e that as it's may as it may. In the twenty twenty three, I retired from the job I had, and I had a few dollars in the bank, and I had all kinds of plans about me me doing one thing or another, and one of the things I wanted to do was I wanted to go to the Fort Lauderdale boat show Don and Flora. So I was thinking about it all summer, and it's kind of looking at the money I had in the bank.

14:16 You know, I'm not taking. Into consideration of my retirement, which I didn't get into yet, but you know, it's kind of going through that money faster than I wanted to because I was trying to get used to being retired and it's kind of a it's kind of a transition to do that. So I just I was hammeling haunt about it. I was getting some dinner work done during the summer, and the dentists wanted to do the finish off the job on the twenty fourth of October and the twenty fourth of October. It was when I wanted to kind of fly down and be at the Fort Lauderdale boat show. So after thinking about it, thinking about it, I said.

14:56 Screw it, I can always do it next year and related to doing the dinner procedure. So October twenty fourth, the day of the dinner procedure, I had it at nine o'clock. That was done by ten. I went home and took a couple of talent all and just kind of sat there waiting for the pain, and it never really came that bad. So about one thirty in the afternoon, I was getting a little hungry, and I decided to take one of the various ways to the nearest town to my favorite, the Chinese food place, and get some fried dumplings. I figured that would be nice and soft and the small and I could eat those.

15:39 So I get in the truck and this is this is this is where it. Gets kind of strange and it's high for me to believe thinking about it. I get in the truck and I decide to listen to an episode from a different show actually of a big Foot. So I turned that on and I really wanted to here it just to keep my mind, I'm thinking about my tooth and the fact that it might start aching like crazy. So I got in the truck, went down this nice road I like to go down. It's kind of semi populated. I mean, you never lose sight of a house when you're driving down it, but it's still It's got a lot of woods, and there's a lot of trees and the wetlands here and there. And at one point I take it right to head towards the head towards the highway, and this area is like I feel Georgetown, Groveland, West Newbury newbury Port area north of Boston. So I'm driving down the road and where the wetland there's a wetland, that's that you pass through. And where the wetland is the road is dirt because every now and then, the road, you know, gets a little jerky from the wetlands beside it. So in this particular day, the road was horrid.

17:07 I mean it was. It was a full full of potholes, and I must have been going about between three and five miles an hour to get through the damn thing. So at the at the very end, I'm just about stopped trying to get through a couple of potholes, and on the left side of the road, I see this truck pulling some lawn cutting equipment coming down and I'm thinking, he's going, man, he's gonna get this truck in his equipment. Beat the hell. And then further up there's this person coming down the driveway on a bike, and so I'm passing, I'm passing this.

17:47 I'm starting to pass this truck hallowing the equipment, and I'm looking at the truck as it looked like a truck buy once owned it was beat the hell like a truck I want so right before I sold it. And all of a sudden, I start having this micro conversation with myself, saying in the conversation sounds like this in my head, Hey, stupid, you just saw a kid or a guy up on the right side of the road in a hoodie, dressed in black, gliding down a driveway.

18:27 But you've you've traveled this road for thirty years and you know, well, there ain't no driveway there. So I look up to the look back up the road and I see this big, this big black kind of of a person. I still think it's on a bike because it turned real quick and started heading back into the woods. So it accelerated like it was an instant acceleration, and I thinking, well, you must be on an eat bike. And then I saw the leg step and then a second step, and I was like, no, no, you know you can't be seeing this. You got a freaking big foot show on that you've lost track of because you were of the potholes, and you're seeing that, you're seeing a big foot.

19:21 Na that can't be. I'm looking at this thing, and I got a camera on my phone sitting on the console, and I say to myself, while I can reach for my camera and probably miss everything trying to get the thing on, or I could just watch and observe and and take everything in that I can see. And this thing starts running. Now it's running with the arms down by its side. It's it's it's a strange kind of run. It's just kind of I don't know, it's everything on it was smooth. The reason why I thought it was a kid on the bike because when it came down there was a slight slight incline in the woods. When they came down the road, it looked like it was gliding. And when it started back up again. It had the same kind of motion. And the first thing that trumpy was, I can't see the head. Where's the head? And the shoulders on this thing must have been as big as a basketball, and there was it does something. It does something weird with the sunlight. And I couldn't actually make out the alms, but they weren't swinging their way from the body.

20:39 It was black. It was fast, and. It didn't appear to it didn't appear to be going as as fast as it could go. It was just running straight up and down. And one of the things I said to myself was look, notice everything, Notice everything. And I couldn't see the head, and I'm thinking to myself, where's the head? So finally I looked. Just below the shoulder, I can see like an eye ridge, and below that I could see the nose, and below that I can see the I can see.

21:23 The mouth or of the lips or something. And people say that they have a sometimes they have a head the sides of a bucket. That's kind of what I was looking at. This thing was the face was very large, and the damn thing was about I would say it was about eight to nine feet tall, especially revisiting that spot and looking at it, it was it was just amazing to see and it was. It must have ran about oh sixty feet and I know from pull visits to the place that there's a rock maybe about four feet high, and it cleared the rock like it was nothing. There's a slight hump up in the air and then back down again and it went into the trees, did a slight left turn, and it was gone. And I couldn't I couldn't believe. I couldn't believe what I was saying.

22:24 So of all days, the day that I thought I might be going down to Fort Lauderdale, I was kind of bumed about missing that trip. But I see this thing, I just I just couldn't believe it. I couldn't believe it. And I when I first saw this thing, I'll try to give a standard kind of distance if there's any kind of standing between telephone poles, and there were no telephone poles in that road, I would say that it was like about two telephone poles away when I first saw it, and I was accelerating toward it because I was going about maybe ten miles an hour and speed, not because I was on the asphalt again, and I think I probably got as close as maybe a telephone poll length and a half to it, and I was just I couldn't I couldn't believe it. I couldn't believe it.

23:19 I was I went on to I went onto the Newberry Port and got my food. And all the time I'm waiting for my food, I'm checking out this map, checking out the map of my truck. I got a nice big map heier on it, and I'm looking at the streets around that place. And I get my food, I'm eating. I couldn't really concentrate on eating. I said, I got to go back. And what I did was I went to the to the next street over in the direction it was heading, because I kind of wanted to see it again and I wanted to see it for my truck, and I didn't want to get out and. See it because I don't know how to describe it.

24:01 Anyways, I went to that to the to the next street over, and it turns out that it also had a at a certain point, certain section, it also had a one of those forestry gates blocking the road. And I think that the road that road actually had flooded every now and then I just ended up closing it. And the weird thing about the two weird things about I mean, other than seeing that bigfoot, there was a house at the end of that road, the one that was locked off, that was for sale, and it was like the only house up at the very end, and then the house on the street were actually seeing the thing.

24:48 That house was for sale, and I'm wondering to myself if if they if they have some kind of habituation and they're thinking about getting out of there, because obviously there's a big foot in the area. Because I just saw one, and you know, I decided just to go home, and I'm home thinking about it, thinking about it and thinking about it, and then about just before it got back, about three thirty, because this was in October, I decided to go back to where I saw it and see if I can take a picture any kind of any kind of footprints. But you know, there was so many leaves around, and I ain't no track. I don't know what I'm looking for. I'm just trying to see if I can find anything in the mon of death that looked like a footprint, and you know, I couldn't. I couldn't find anything up on as on that road where I saw the bigfoot, I started over to the right and up to the left there was an incline up to a house that sat up there, maybe about four hundred feet away, and I can hear some kind of soire going on up there, and just I don't know, it just kind of made me think, was it just trying to get through before something got roll on the other side. I mean, I have no idea, none whatsoever.

26:09 And I've always and what's what's strange to me is I've always, like I said, I've lived lived up here for like thirty plus years, and I've always thought to myself, if I ever see a bigfoot, that ever happens, it's going to happen in this area with a with the swamp was I didn't a swamp or wetland, whatever you want to call it. I never expected it to happen like just up the road. And you know, I don't I know nothing about nothing when it comes to being a woodsman. But the fact that I kind of kind of felt like that was the place kind of freaked me out too when I was thinking about it. It's just it's just something that very strange that had happened. And so the year after I seen that thing, Man, I'm freaked out. As a matter of fact, two weeks after I had seen it, I wouldn't go outside. I would go outside at night once I was running to my truck, I'll run it back in because I was. Man, I was freaked out.

27:20 And my house is surrounded by by a wooded area, especially in the back. I got about eighty yards of woods until it hits the next house on the up next street. And it took me a couple of weeks to take to myself. Look, you've been living here for thirty years. Nothing's ever happened. You never heard of anything ever happen. The thing obviously wanted nothing to do with you, because it took off, and it took off fast. As matter of fact, that it ran so fast that you know, I'm a gun owner, and you know I go to the ranch every now and then. I think that I would have to expand about twelve or fifteen clips to get a deed and actually hit something like that, which I would would do because I think it would just piss it off and it would turn around and beat me, beat me to death. Anyways, it was it was awesome and frightening at the same time. So so, like I said, I spent the next year trying to convince myself that was that it was all right to go into the woods again. And I would go to I mean, I knew the I knew the area that it was that, and I knew what I knew was how to access it from different different points, uh different places on different streets that surrounded it. And I would go from one by one and and think about think about going into the woods.

28:43 I actually do it. I tried it one time on that on that road that I originally found. When I first moved up there. And it turns out that road now is it's blocked off and closed off. But the but the place where the ranges and put the parking lot or parking place was still open. So I pulled in there one day. I got out of the truck and try to try to walk. I think I walked like about one hundred feet, and I said, I can't do it. I can't do it. I got back in the truck. Another day, I returned to there and I just backed in. As soon as I shut the truck off, I heard a tree or a big branch or something fall fall behind me and I turned the truck back on. I said, nope, I ain't going to do it today. Ain't gonna happen. And it just I'm still working on trying to get into the woods. I've done better. Actually, on a year after I saw the thing, I went back to where I saw it. I got out of the truck and I walked around the area, probably about maybe.

29:52 Three hundred feet in. I didn't to go all the way, just kind of took a good look and there was some decent paths that at some point and I'm going to attempt to kind of walk maybe in October September. It seemed. It seems to me that October and September. I think these things either either they live in this area or they're moving through the area and migrating, because you know, you get to figure there's a lot of farms around here. As a matter of fact, I lived down the street from a dairy farm. There's a lot of farms around here. They collecting their crops in September time October. I'm sure they're storing them different places and doing whatever they do.

30:38 Maybe it is a high time for them to feed I don't know, Like I said, I didn't know. I didn't know why I would suspect that I would see at bigfoot in the area that I saw it. And it only took me thirty years to run into the dagon thing. But you know, nonetheless I did. Let's see what else? Yeah, So, like about after the winter a year after the next October October twenty fourth to twenty four that winter, and a spring about a hundred feet away from where I saw a bigfoot. I'm going down the road and I see a tree, a pine tree lodged into some hordwood tree, and it's like pointing into the woods and I see it. I must have been on past it for like about two months, and I always stared at it. I figured, you know what, I'm going to get out. I'm going to take some pictures of it. I'm going to get a measure of it.

31:46 I'm going to make sure that it wasn't cut by somebody in place there. And I had a good look at it. I didn't see any kind of greasy hantlets, prince hindred or anything. But of course it's been already lodged for about three months by then. I sent you. I sent you some pictures of it. Cheremiah you to take a look at. And it's about I'm about five foot eleven and a half and it's about maybe at the level of where my head is, and it's not jammed in the tree. It's just kind of placed there, kind of balancing. And I talked to a. Guy who who knows a little bit about the Bigfoot, and he says that sometimes they do that, and they point it towards water. And it's sure enough, it's pointed towards water. As a matter of fact, with the trees.

32:40 When you're going down that dirt road, you can see that that part of the forest where I had seen the Bigfoot further up, and it looked like it's pointing right to where the trees kind of. And then go in and the water kind of. Passes behind and and and goes out of sight. It's like this point I. Right at that that that that curve, and I know, one day when I get the pazoots to take a walk back there, I might do that. So there's one more thing of highest rangeness I feel that happened. And it happened like about two weeks ago. Two weeks ago on a Saturday night, I was in the house and I was I was up at both whoever one in the morning, and I decided to go to bed. Let me let me describe how my my house sits. My house sits on a like about on the road my neighbors across the across the street. My driveway goes up and at the top of my driveway, I'm about even at the top of his house. And if you go up into my living room, I got to live on a split level. On the back side it's one floor and on the front side it's two floors. If you go into my living room, you can see beyond his house.

34:09 And beyond his house there is a field where there's always seems to be a lot of turkeys, and you see deer over there, and they use the field for growing for growing grass, and they turn into hay because every fall you see like hay bales rolled up and being collected. On the other side of the field, there's a woodline, and I think behind his house, he's probably got about fifty yards a field before it hits the woodline, and that that that field goes to the if you're looking at it, if I'm looking at his house from my driveway and you go left. The next cross street is about three tenths of a mile down the street, and that's all got filed and wood a varying The field is that varying ripped with sometimes it's a lot bigger and sometimes it isn't. But the woodline goes to the next street, and that street is about three tenths of a mile further from that the edge of the woodline to the next street. So anyways, it's quarter to one at night. I decided to turn the TV off and go to bed.

35:28 I passed. I passed my my room so called I'm married, and she has her room and I have mine. But from in my room, it was decided that the cat boxes would be put into it. So I didn't like the smell coming from there. I took a look, and sure enough, one of my my cats. I got some older cats, and sometimes the boy he doesn't make it all the way inside the box and he pisses on the pad. I got on the front side of the box. Pads there for that very reason. So I decided, well, let me clean this pad before I go to bed, and I clean the cat box. So I take it outside to my driveway. I got a door there. It goes to the garage, goes into the driveway, and I come out and I put the pad down on the ground and go to get some soap to put on it and use the holes to kind of spray it off.

36:22 And when I go out. There, the light on the side of the house, I have my driveway lights on with the light on the side of the house flicks on, and from across the field, across the street, the house in. The field, I hear, hey. You know, this isn't the kind of neighborhood where people are up late and making a lot of noise and acting up. It just it just doesn't happen. It hasn't happened for three years I lived here. And then I hear hey again. And it's not like you might if you were trying to get someone's attention, you would say hey. Then you say hey, you know, to try to get there. But it was just straight hey, hey. And on the second hey, this owl goes off like on the right side of where I heard the hey, and it sounds kind of like a like a bard owl.

37:20 And then right. After that another owl goes off on the left side of the field, and it's something. It sounds like an owl, but I never heard that that kind of sound before. And I spent time on the computer trying to figure out different owl sounds. I never heard it before, and I found that that's weird. It's not unusual, but that's that's a little weird. And then I hear hey again. But it's further away. And then when the owls go off the ones to the right, it's further away. The one to the it's further away. And I hear hey one last time, hey, and it's even further away. Then the owl goes off to the right, that's further away.

38:12 And the owl goes off to the left, and that's further away. And I'm thinking to myself, man, this is that's that's highly strange. That is a highly strange occurrence. And I listened to one of your episodes where one of the one of the guys said that he heard them say a word a ruha, And I thought to myself, for a millisecond, I should yell that out. But then I also thought, do I really want to draw attention from something I'm not sure about to where I live? And no, I don't think, so I don't think I want to do that, and that was the last thing that happened. Wow, high strangeness.

38:54 That's man, that's a really really I mean, that's a wild journey that you've had. If you think of the entire going all the way back to the seventies, but that area, as we talked a little bit before off air, I know, I know the Newberry Poor area, and yeah, the Marshy woods I can almost picture them, you know, because my grandparents they lived in Rally, which is kind of a similar area. But you're getting those Marshy woods man, and yeah, I could totally see something being out there. Do you mind if I ask you some questions about what you saw that day?

39:35 Not at all awesome? Would you how would you describe the build of what you saw? So I would I would describe it as a if I had to compare it, if I have to compare it to a human age wise, I would say was probably like a like a it male And it's mid twenties to the thirties. And you've got to remember that when I say that, the sunlight kind of does funny things with it.

40:15 I can understand why. People take pictures and the pictures look blurry because I had to concentrate on this thing because it I don't want to say it look blurry, but it was. The arms were not distinguishable from the body because it kept its arms down by its side, and I just couldn't I just couldn't make out the borders of the arms in the in the body. But the body was like a fit body. I couldn't really see muscles or anything because of the because of what the sunlight did with the with the hair, you want to call it that, but it appeared to be fit from the way, from the speed it moved and the posture of it.

41:01 Does that make sense, Yeah, it absolutely does. You had said the shoulders were as big as a basketball, and I was just making sure that I heard that correctly. So is that saying that the size of the shoulders they were as big as a basketball or or what did you mean exactly by that? So, like I said, I had a profile view of the thing, so I was looking at it from the side, and I could see death, but you know, I couldn't see much of anything else. I only got a fraction of a second look at it when it was facing it on to me because it was in the process of turning.

41:42 But when I say that the shoulders were. Big, as big as a basketball, if you take your left hand and reach it to your right shoulder and feel that the shoulder, if it was as big as a basketball, then I guess what I'm thinking. Is that the arms were huge. Yeah. I just couldn't. I just couldn't, you know, distinctly see them that they were huge. And believe me, I had second thoughts about did I actually see one? And I said, yeah, because you saw the brow, you saw the nose, and you saw the mouth, and you could see that in the profile as it ran. And unless they had a good eight seconds look at it. I mean, if you would take a picture and look at it for eight seconds, you can make out a lot of detail on it.

42:31 But I don't know is that what you were looking for? Yeah? Absolutely, were you able to or could you? Could you put an estimated weight on what you saw that day? Yes, I think it was between eight and nine feet tall, and Jesus it must have been I don't know, maybe it. Was like between six and eight hundred pounds. Maybe, gotcha, because it was you know, it wasn't it wasn't fat. It was. It was fit, but it was huge and it was tall. I just wanted to say this about these things. I think that the muscle, the muscle to weight ratio is off the charts of these things. I was I was telling my I was telling my friend about what I saw, and he said, well, it's the thing ever came up to me.

43:27 I wait till the last second and died. Should have left and shoot it. And I didn't say a thing to him, But to my mind, it's like these things, these things don't move the same as we do. I think that if you at your fittest that you ever were, and the strongest that you ever were, if you were that fit, you were that strong, but you only weighed forty pounds, but you had all that muscle, you know, you would do you would be able to do things that normal people wouldn't be able to do. And you give a stop on the dime, jump twenty feet or so. I mean, it's you know, these things don't move like like people do.

44:12 They just don't. No, absolutely, absolutely. You mentioned the color black a few times when you were going through what you what you saw. Did you notice any other colors as well about it? Or was that the main color that was present. No, it was. It was. It was deep black. It was like look through the it's like look through the woods and you see a black that's out of place kind of black. It was. It was deep deep black. Matter of fact, when I walk, when I when I drive down the road, I take a second blieve it's somebody see something that's really dark and really really black what I'm driving.

44:57 I mean, it's just it was deep black. Having the profile view, I'm and I don't want to assume, but you probably did not notice any details of the face or or the skin color or anything like that because of the way you were looking at it. Right. I did notice one thing that I didn't expect, and that was the nose. I thought it would be like more flat in my mind because you know, listening to all the all the Bigfoot stories and all that, and the nose was like you know that statue of a David.

45:38 I guess it is the noses kind of a Roman kind of nose. Sure, it looked kind of like that. That caught me my surprise. I said, that looks like a like a like a human nose. But I don't know, it's just that that's that's that's what striped struck me. I didn't see any kind of color. Like I said, I noticed the bridge, I mean, the irate and the lips. And it's funny with funny with the lips. If you had a a clay face and you rolled some clay in your hand and put it down for the lips when you turn that thing sideways, that's what it kind of looked like to me. It was kind of it was kind of weird.

46:20 That is really weird. I've heard a few people say that, not specifically the statue of David about the nose, but they pretty much are describing the same thing. They're like, no, it wasn't like a monkey in the zoo or like a gorilla, like this is a different type of nose, and that's kind of what they are describing. So that's very interesting you'd bring that up. Do you remember any details about the hair that you saw at all that was covering the Bigfoot? No, because it, like I said, it had it had a weird kind of like a borriness to it. Like I said, it was partly cloudy out that day. It's like one forty in the afternoon. I guess when I saw this thing, you know, I seen it three and a half miles from my house. That was that was disturbing enough. They started three and a half miles from my house. Good, but no, the guy really couldn't make out detail like that from where I was.

47:28 You mentioned a few things about the face of it. Were you able to notice anything about the eyes at all? No, because, like I said, I had that. I had that side view and I was like about it maybe two hundred feet away. Was there anything that gave you clues that you were looking at a male or female? I got the impression of a male if you're a football field away from somebody. Yeah, most males can be distinguished from females, you know what I mean. We've were talking about humans, and I just that's the kind of impression I got about this thing. I thought I thought it was a male.

48:14 Interesting, did you ever, Well, I'll ask it this way, So who else have you shared this experience with so far? I I told my best friend. I told her a friend of mine that I fished with a lot. I actually actually actually told my wife, But I don't think she was never really interested in that kind of thing. And I think that if she ever saw one. She'd probably want to move out of here and never come back. So I just I told her about it, and then I never talked about it with her since because I don't think she's I don't think she's receptive to it at all, and I don't think she wants.

48:55 To know about matter of fact, I end people that could just go to the. Drive through the woods, get out and take a nice walk through the trees. You know, I splitful walk. I envy you because you know I do it and I know what's in there, and I have to think about it a couple of times. Have you ever talked to anyone in law enforcement or trying to think of the equipped that's not forestry workers out there? It's so there's like mass auduba things like things like that. Have you ever had those conversations? Oh yeah, let me tell you a story about that.

49:39 So I would. In the spring, I went to some of those fishing shows, saltwater fish and shows, and you know they're always there kind of stumbing for for theircuses and whatnot, and I pulled them aside and I said, you know what I seen it. I seen a bigfoot. I mean, how can you guys don't tell anybody these things the real And he kind of looked at me like, I'll tell you what. He's pointing to another office and say she deals with that kind of stuff. And so I went over and talked to him. I said, you know, these things are real. I saw one. She says, yeah, you know, I don't. I don't know anything about what you're talking about. And I said, well, come on, you know you must have seen one, right, we don't know what we don't deal with that kind I don't know what you're talking about.

50:30 She just kind of walked away, said yeah, okay, that tells me all I need to know. That tells me all I need to know what's going on. But they. You're not gonna have a You're not gonna have a conversation with one of them, maybe unless you get them somewhere and they're a friend of yours. Matter of fact, I told another one and he laughed in my face, and I said, okay, well, you know you work in this business. One day either you're lying to me laughing like that, are you're really ignorant about it? And one day you're going to see one and you're gonna ask you superiors, Hey, how can you never talk to me about this coming up? You can tell me that these things are real. He's gonna he's going to have some issues.

51:13 I think of his own, then think about unless he was just up. Good luck to you. Good luck to you son. But by the way, I'm about six sixty nine years old. You know I've been I've been around seeing a few things, but you know, nothing like that. Absolutely, It's it's weird. Different parts of the country I think have different receptiveness when it comes to I guess people in that and those roles. I mean, you talk to someone in Oregon, you might have a whole different conversation. I mean I've talked to people. I talked to an individual at the Iowa State Fair where I'm from, a DNR guy, and he told me about his sighting, And I mean, it's just ever know, like the type of person you're going to run into.

52:03 I guess. But you know, sometimes Steve, people have these sightings and they start looking into to see if they've if there have been other sightings in the same area. Is that anything you did where you know you you started looking around and you were able to find other things that have happened in the same area. Well, I didn't have to because when the Internet came around and I heard stories about people having like that feeling I had up in New Hampshire, right, I got I got a good idea what kind. Of was that. I speculated what happened to me that day and what I was feeling about that carriage house up in New Hampshire.

52:46 And I started listening to a bunch of sasquat stuff and heard all kinds of things, and I did hear. I did hear about the sighting from the bfr ro and the tops Field, Raleigh area, where a kid thought he saw three of them in a row running in a certain direction. And that was like about the only thing I found locally bfi Row before, by the way, I did. I didn't put it to the BFI Row and they wouldn't. They wouldn't put it in because I wouldn't let them use the location because I felt bad for the guy I was trying to sell his house, and actually the same house is for sale now, and I wanted to get.

53:34 Some kind of habituation issue he's. Talking about, you know, and I'm not going to talk to him about it, but you know, just just strange. That's that's really interesting, and it really Yeah, that's a tricky one because it's like, well, I mean, what's the worst gonna happen. I guess the guy would be like, yeah, I get off my property and you know, call the cops or something. But he could have something going on though. I mean, you never know, especially in that same area. But my goodness, Steve is it's a really cool sighting story in and it's been one of those places where I've been thinking for the last year, like I know, something has happened around here, and when I got your information, I was just like, this is awesome. This is really really cool. There's a lot of there's more more Massachusetts stuff coming out on the show recently, which is great.

54:28 But you know, Steve, I just want to say thank you for coming on the show and for sharing what you experienced that day. I mean, it's it's a quick encounter, but you did notice a lot of really interesting details and I will say thank you for sharing those. And I want to make sure that you were able to share everything that you want to share on the show today. Yeah, no problem. If you know, if you have a back in this area and you want to mean to actually show you the spot. I'd be happy to that. I think the tree is still there, so it's got some major on it now. It's still lodged in the other trees pointing in that direction. Like I said, there's up and down that it could have been anywhere up and down that road, but it was in the spot where I see in the Bigfoot. So you know what was that all about?

55:20 But you know, I don't know what to say. If you're a non believer, God bless you. I hope you never see one. Quite frankly me, I would like to see another one. I'd like to look at it in the face, but from a distance. But anyways, good luck to. You, yes, sir, and thank you for coming on the show today. All right, no problem, thank you. Hey Judy, how are you hi? Can you hear me? Yeah? You sound great? What brings you up today? I just wanted to tell you about a couple of experiences that I had with big Foot. So I never was a believer and I lived hold on a second, I've lived in the same area pretty much like all my life, and well since three and so now I'm up in the foothills and down below me in the valley is where I used to live, where I grew up in the where the they farmed the cows and everything.

56:21 So anyways, when I was younger, my mom saw a bigfoot out in the field, and I remember like being a little girl, and we all went out there and the grass was like literally laid down, and it looked just like a big man had laid there. And we looked at all the footprints and all that, and I was like, oh, I don't believe in this stuff. Never have. And then in twenty twenty one, we had passed like my we went down to go get propane because I live up above where I used to live, like it's in the valley and I'm up in the foothills, and so we went down to go get propane. And we were in twenty two and I was with my best friend and her daughter, and her daughter was like ten at that time, and we're going really slow because it's like thirty five on the road to go down to the nearest little town, and we're just cruising along. We cast a guy that was walking his dog. And then as we were coming down this hill, we saw this guy come out and he was like really tall and he was in black when I would say, we're probably like, I don't know, like a block away. As we're coming down this hill and we're like talking and Lola, her daughter, was looking, and we're like, why is he wearing all black?

57:37 And it's one hundred degrees out today and this is really super hot out and he's just standing there and there's no mailboxes, and I'm thinking, I go, dude, that's a gullie. That's a gully, Like why would anybody come out of there? That's a gullie. I've lived here all my life. I know how the road is. And so as we start getting closer and we're coming up on him, we go into shop like we're in shock mode, and we just I swear to God, like just coast up on him. And Megan just breaks the car right and we're just staring right at him, and he's like touching the front of our car. And we're not in a we're just in a smaller car, and anyways, he's just touching it and he's looking in at us and he's smiling like his mouth is open, and then he takes I don't know, two or three steps and this jumps right down in the gullie right on the other side of the road, and we're sitting there and I'm just in shock and Megan's in shock, and then all of a sudden, Lola goes, we just saw Bigfoot. It just brought us out of our out of the what we were in right, and we realized Lola saw it. We just didn't see it.

58:50 She saw too. The kid saw the can is proof and so then we turned around, we looked in the gullie and everything, and we couldn't see him. And I didn't talk much about it after that because I was just like still in shock. I was like, Okay, I really see this thing. And then in twenty twenty three, I had left for a couple of nights and I had left my dogs for the night in the bus and stuff by themselves, and I was pretty worried about him, but I had to leave. And the next morning I came back and I was in my yard and my friend Jim was with me, and we were standing in my yard and all of a sudden, back in the woods where my grandkids have their forts, I heard movement back there, and I go, Jim, somethen's back there, and I go, what's back there, and so we start walking back towards it.

59:42 He's not too far and we get about I don't know, i'd say about thirty feet away, and Bigfoot walks right out into the sunlight, right through the woods and we could see him. And he walked right out into the open road, and he was like i'd say, probably about fourteen feet tall, and to me, he was the same. He looked exactly the same as the one I saw down the road, but this time he turned around, he looked at me, and he went down. And this is not a lie. He went down. He scrouched down on his knees and he hit his chest like twice with his arm towards me, like like we're friends and I'm just standing there and then shocking, Gim's going, is that a big Is that a picture? He's just casually beating himself.

1:00:33 I can't talk, and like he's so close to us. He could have picked us up, killed us, did whatever he wanted to do, but he didn't. Instead, he bowed down like and did this thing on his chest. So I looked that up because I wanted to know what did he do, Like why would he pound his chest like that at me? And I guess it's like a sign in Congo or whatever with gorillas that that means we're friends, and which I believe we are, because listen, I have chickens and ducks and everything around here, and if Bigfoot wanted to take them, or a bear or cougar when I'm gone and go and getting supplies, they could have them. But nothing never touches my animals. So something, I figure, something is keeping care of him. But that is the second time I saw him, and he walked like straight down the road, and I watched him walk right straight down the road and down the path and go right through the bushes onto the property I live with about I don't know, thousands and thousands of acres behind me, and I got two lakes up behind me that hippies live on, and then I got a lake that's a park lake down below me. And my property is the only one that can joins with all of this land that goes way out everywhere. It's called Eagle Mount and so I can join with all the lakes and everything around me, and I can join all the way back down to the valley through the woods. And so he's I'm thinking he's running that what I figure

1:02:06 out is that he's running the foothill line, because there's like where I live, there's foothills that come up from the valley and they run all the way down to another town called Quillisene. It's about twenty miles away, and then that goes up into the Olympic Mountains and stuff. Here in Washington, I'm conjoined with a lot of property. And I think the day I came home, he was taking a nap and he got caught and so he was moving because I saw like this person like try to hide behind a tree. At first, that's what I thought. I thought it was a guy trying to hide behind a tree in my yard, and I was like, what are you doing? So this is our property, you can't be on it. So that's what I thought, But it wasn't.

1:02:50 And that was my second time seeing him. And now I'm a full believer in Bigfoot. I'm not afraid of him. I still go outside at night in the dark by myself, and I sleep outside by myself sometimes up here, and I'm not afraid. I honestly feel like he's probably been protecting it, protecting us because with all the cougar sightings and Bobcat sightings and everything people have and all the children that have played up here and stuff, and nothing's ever got us. So I do think he is a protector. I do think he doesn't like people that are negative.

1:03:32 He doesn't like he doesn't like guns, that's for sure. And I think he's just like any other animal. But he definitely is out there. There's no doubt about it. In my mind. I'm a true believer. But that's all I got to say. Thank you for sharing. So that's pretty much. It's close to the Olympic Peninsula. It sounds like, yeah, I'm not been where Eagle Mount. It's called the Eagle Mount and it's by the Olympic Mountains, close to the Olympic Mountains. So I'm like up above where the highway runs like through quill Scene Brennan and it goes like through Mount Walker and all that. So yeah, it's not a lot of forest around me. But I don't I don't want people like coming big Foot Honting.

1:04:20 I just think people should leave them alone. If it's meant to be, If he's meant to be seen, he's going to be seen. No, absolutely agree with you for all. I have I have a for the podcast. You may have heard me say this before. Is it something where I can share this conversation we. Had on it? Oh? Yeah, definitely. Hey, I appreciate you coming up. Hopefully you can stick around for a bit. Sure, I love listening. Thank you, Thank you? Okay, bye? Hey doing good? How about you? Not bad? Not bad? We'll bring you.

1:05:02 I'm sorry. Would you say what brings you up today? Sir? I just wanted to tell you about an experience I had. I was out west and I was alone, walking the trail down by the river and near a big forest, and it was the forest was dark, but there was like a lot of mists and stuff like that. And by the river there there was like a lot of beavers and animals and stuff. And I was walking my horse on the trail, and my horse started to notice some kind of sound, and so I just I walked with him for a little while, and he stopped and I just stood there beside him, and I just left him there, like I tied him up.

1:06:07 And then. Probably about I would say, about thirty five feet where I was standing, there was a figure, like a figure, like a dark figure, probably about thirteen feet fourteen feet standing behind a tree, and it was foggy, so it was hard to see what was going on. And anyways, I tied my horse up and I left him there at the post, and I was walking up the hill there there's steep. I had a watch out where I was walking fucking and I slipped and there was like the leaves were wet, and I started falling down the hill and then I heard a big roar and it sounded like a like a bear, but it was a little bit different. So I got back up and after falling down, I cleaned myself off, I got the mud off my pants, and then I started walking in the

1:07:40 direction where I saw the like the shadow thing behind the tree there. I got closer and the thing was gone. But then a few minutes later I saw the figure thing running like running ahead of me. Anyways, I tried to catch up to it, and then it was gone. But like the the figure I saw was like it almost looked like a like an ape. It was like the size of a like a gorilla or something like that, and you could tell it had a lot of hair on it and it was dark in that. But after I saw that, it was like, did I did it was that Bigfoot? Did I experience like this asspatch guy?

1:08:32 And so it made me wonder was that Bigfoot? So it was it was quite the experience. Wow. Where did that happen? Can you share any of about that? It happened in the rock the rockies up there. I forget the name of the town. I think it was called Whistler or something. Like that or okay, Whistler BC. Yeah, And it was, like I said, it was a cool day. It wasn't very normally temperature out there in that time of day, was like it was in the morning time, early in the morning before the sun was fully set in the sky, and it was like a fall they felt. And then there was like a lot of fog and stuff and it was really hard to see what. Definitely something out there.

1:09:30 Wow. I appreciate you coming up and sharing what you experience. Is this something I could share on Bigfoot podcast as well? Sure you can. Yeah? Awesome. Hey, thank you for coming up and keep us in mind if you experience anything else. Thanks very much. Hey, Ed, how's it go? My there? You got it? How are you doing? Sir? Oh? Hey? My name is that? How you doing? Hey? Good? My name is Shermia. Nice to meet you. I saw your comment about something happened in spencer Port. Yeah, yep. It happened about thirty years ago in spencer Port, New York. I could give you the road right. There's houses back there now, but there's still woods, and there was weird things that would happen, probably about a month before you'd hear weird things. And I was always in the woods because the farmer, because we lived right there in a duplex, and he farmed the field that was there, and he would park his equipment right behind the house in his field, and he said, hey, could you watch it.

1:10:42 You live here, and I'll let you hunt in the woods because I owned a lot of guns. I like to go feudal. And probably before this happened what I told you about about three weeks it was at and I was walking out to the shed. It was probably oh forty feet from the house, just a wooden shed right on the edge of the field there. And do you know what a chimpanzee sounds like when it's angry and it runs away, it screams, it thrashes. And I think this was a family of him. I'm not positive and I'm not weird. Trust me, because I'm going to give you a name of a guy who you might be able to get a hold of tomorrow. I'm pretty sure I know where he works and he'll back this up.

1:11:39 And this thing ran from behind the shed and it screeps like I watched animal shows, and when a chimpanzee gets excited, it runs and it thrashes, and I heard it run right down the hedgerow, right into the woods and then it stopped. Okay whatever. I put it off to a raccoon, a box, something like that. And Matt, my buddy, we went out back to do shooting, and I had my spotlight because it was going to get dark and we didn't know when we were going to get back. So we start walking back and the spotlight dives and I had a two twenty two rifle and I forget what rifle he had, and it's pitch black, but we knew where we were. There's a trail that goes right up the hill into the field and you can see the lights of the houses. We get almost to the crest of the hill by this hedgerow that had a little creak in it that ran to the woods where that noise ran down and I heard a buck.

1:12:48 We both heard this buck snort. My dad was my hunted for years. I know what a deer sounds like. And we heard it. We both stopped and I says, Matt, that's a buck land down somewhere in here. And we both didn't want to get hit with a horn, right, So I says we could put a couple of rounds in the ground. He goes, okay. So we heard it, and it sounded like it was probably twenty to thirty feet on the ground in front of us. We couldn't see it. The spotlight the battery burned out. It was dead, and it's pitched black, no moon, and you couldn't see your hand in front of your face, basically. So we fired two rounds into the ground where this thing was laying and made that noise changed. It was now angled up and I'm guessing nine to ten feet and this is no lie and it let out such a guttural growl.

1:13:50 I've hunted bear, my dad, my brother and me, we've hunted grizzlies in Canada. I know what a bear sounds like. There's no animal in New York State that can make that noise. And it shook your chest and we just high tailed it to the house. But we couldn't smell it. And that was weird because usually an animal that lives outside, you're gonna smell. And I've hunted, like I said, We've hunted for years. My dad owned gunshops, he was a conservation officer. I know animals. But the weird thing is the next morning, when me and Matt both got up to go to work, he goes, you want to go out there and look for tracks. I says, I don't know.

1:14:33 I don't want to know. I said, no, go ass mac. He's going to give you the same story, the same exact story. And it you watch these people that go hunt them, and you're looking at an animal that can go eight hundred I'm going to guess fourteen hundred pounds and can rip trees out of the ground and stick them back into the ground upside down, right, do yep. But I appreciate you just letting me talk. But yeah, thirty years ago this happened, and it was I can't remember the address of the house, and there's houses behind her. Now there's a housing contract. They ripped the apple dorchard out and there's a huge house off to the one side, but the woods are still there, and I never went back and looked around in the woods too much after that.

1:15:24 I didn't go out there at night. But it's weird. Nothing that I know in New York State can growl that way. Nothing. Wow, Okay, an escape And even if it was an escape silver back, it's only gonna be what six seven foot and it's not gonna let you stand there and fire two rounds in the ground. It's going to retaliate. It's gonna figure your challenging it. But yeah, we never went back out to look for tracks. And I said, man, I don't want to know. Were other people in that same time time period having weird stuff happened in the same area too.

1:16:06 I asked the old couple next to us, and they said, no, not really. And there was a cop that I grew up with that lived across the street just down the road, and I asked him. He said no, the store owner on the one road, just on the other side of the field. I've asked him because he was there for years, and he said his dogs wouldn't the only thing he noticed. Every once in a while. His dogs wouldn't wander off in the backyard, they'd stay up front, but he said he never saw anything. I've asked people, But there's a parkway down by the lake, and there's a couple of guys that have supposedly video one that was by the lake, but it was taken from a distance and you couldn't make out what it was. And that was probab probably twenty five thirty miles away.

1:17:06 Wow by Lake, Ontario. Yeah, Hamlin Beach State Parkway. Yeah, OK, And I think there was a couple other sightings around there, but it was just weird. But I've never I've hunted for years, me and my dad, we've hunted, like I said, bear all the way up to Malone County by the river a Tupper Lake. We've hunted bear. And we went to Canada, to Canadian Peninsula and hunted grizzly once. And I've never heard anything growl like that. I don't even think a bear could make that noise. I really don't.

1:17:47 Oh, are you talking about the Are you. Talking about shot out back? And yeah? Are you talking about the video of what people think is a baby bigfoot in a tree? Was that downun by the hamil Beach State Parkway? I think I'm looking at something because is it from like nineteen ninety seven? Could have been that long ago? Yeah? All right, yeah, that's interesting. Do you know how to contact those guys? I'd have to look up what you're looking up, and I could probably find I know, I've seen it before. Okay.

1:18:28 The only thing I have is a tablet. I don't have a big computer. Gotcha, got you? No problem? No, I don't even know if still around ninety seven? Is that that's true? Hey, I appreciate you coming up ed and talking about what happened to there in Spencerport. That's a new area for me. Is this a conversation I could put on? I have a big foot podcast where I share conversations like this, No problem, go ahead, awesome, all right, that sounds great. Guy said, when this thing grows, literally it had to have been up to ten foot easy. It was just dumbfounding.

1:19:08 And everybody asked me, why didn't you walk back and look for princes? No, that's a big animal. No, I don't care if you're armed. Do you shoot? Two twenty two is not a quiet gun. It's fairly loud. Believet. I think he might have had a thirty thirty or a forty five seventy. That thing should have ran. It did not run. It just growled and it just shook you. Yeah, you can shoot it audio. I don't have a problem with that. Awesome, and keep us in the loop. If you hear anything else, I feel free to reach out. Maybe we'll see you up here again. But thanks for hanging out, man.

1:19:49 Yeah, I just hit follow for you. You got it. Thank you, sir. I'll see if I can look that look that up. It's good talking to you tonight, and you have a good one, sir. Before he wrap this episode, I want to say something directly to a very specific group of listeners. If you're in the military, any branch or forces, and if you've seen something that no one can explain, or if you're a National park ranger or forestry worker who's been told to stay quiet, or if you're a pilot who's seen something strange down on the ground, or if you're with the FBI a federal agency, or working intelligence and you stumbled upon something you're not allowed to talk about. And if you're a firefighter, paramedic, or search and rescue responder who's heard screams or found tracks that didn't make sense.

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