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The Sasquatch Connection: An Oakridge, Oregon Bigfoot Account

The Sasquatch Connection: An Oakridge, Oregon Bigfoot Account
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The Sasquatch Connection: An Oakridge, Oregon Bigfoot Account

Recorded 8/27/24

This one gets pretty intense.

You may remember William Morris from a previous episode with the "Sasquatch killed Bear".

Bill was in attendance at Sasquatch Summer Fest 2024 in Oakridge, Oregon and we were able to talk face to face...

Recorded 8/27/24

This one gets pretty intense.

You may remember William Morris from a previous episode with the "Sasquatch killed Bear".

Bill was in attendance at Sasquatch Summer Fest 2024 in Oakridge, Oregon and we were able to talk face to face for an extended period of time.

However, it's what was happening when weren't together during this time that this episode is about.

I have talked directly to Gwendolynn Guthrie and Dr. Love to get their ok that I air this retelling of their accounts from Bill. Both Gwendolynn and Dr. Love will be coming on the show separately to share their accounts of what they experienced during that time and what they've experienced since.

I shudder to think of what other accounts occurred during the Sasquatch Summer Fest that we may never hear about. Hopefully people will continue to keep coming forward about that time.

Enjoy.

Note: Bill's audio was wonky on his side as it was in the future episode. We spent forever trying to figure it out but to no avail.

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0:00 Welcome to Big for Society. If you have Bigfoot activity to report from the same areas discussed in this episode, please reach out to me directly after this episode. And if you'd like to be on the podcast to discuss a personal Bigfoot encounter, please reach out to me directly at bigfo Society at gmail dot com. Do you wish there was more Big for Society to listen to you every week? Well there is now. If you become a supporting member over at Patreon, you get a special members only episode every single week on Wednesdays, and sometimes even more episodes. Head on over to patreon dot com. Forward slash the Big for Society and now let's get on with the show. All right, Big for Society.

0:40 You've got the privilege of talking to good friend Bill Morris today. I've talked to Bill before. If you remember the episode where there's the well, now it's kind of famous, the Sasquatch killed bear. Everyone remembers that that. Part of it. But Bill's from southern Oregon and we're able to actually hang out at Sasquatch Summer Fest over there in Oakridge, which is a big part of why Bill is back on the program to share kind of his viewpoint of what happened during those few days that he was there. So how's it going, Bill? Going good? How are you doing, my friend? Yeah, I'm doing great. It's it's nice out here. And I was a little a little warm, but uh, just kind of still decompressing from from that time in Oregon.

1:24 It's really, uh that really affected me for in positive ways. So really it's good. Your mind expanded in the exponential ways. Yeah, you could say that. You're going to be changing, well, you know, it changes your life completely, it really does. It's uh, it's this is nothing that I ever thought i'd be talking about because you know, like I said, thirty eight years I ken't have tucked away, you know. Then the experiences I'm having now are just I wouldn't trade it for nothing. I have the most open mind now that I've ever had my entire life, and really look at things a lot different now. And it's I'm just at a point where let the weirdness happen.

2:08 It's gonna happen. Just let it happen. And and just like Tom needs to tell me all the time, you know, just go with it. Bill, you know Tom cantrall And it's like, well, you know, I learned to go with it. And it's like some of this stuff seems like it's just so out of the ordinary that it's impossible, you know, but these are the things that are actually happening, and it's really crazy. It's really really interesting. And I think I met I mentioned this out loud when I when I met you at the fest foot I was like, you are you have the most calming presence of any person that I have ever met in real life, and it was very interesting and I was like, whoa this is. This is so interesting. Have to say this out loud to Bill like this is intense.

2:57 Yes, you did say that, And actually I actually out of that earlier today. Yeah, I'm going on with Teremiah again. Oh yeah, I remember him saying, Man, you're really calm dude. Yeah, it is a chilled out, cool guy. But Bill, let's let's get right into it, man, so share with me. I'm really curious as to what happened to you guys on your side of things out there. Well, I, uh, the whole thing there is. I had such a blast. I loved meeting you, and I got to see Gwendoline Guffree. We've been friends for probably five years or so, maybe six, and hadn't got to meet each other, and it was just instant friends, you know.

3:38 I mean, it was just amazing, just like you and I. You know, we got there together. I walked up and looked at you, and you looked at me with whoa. We just hit it off instantly. But I have said in the past that my Sasquatch family follows me, and now I have a little proof of that. When I was at beach Foot a few weeks earlier before oak Ridge. The first night me and Kathy Blunt I was at camp. I had picked her up and brought her to beach Foot. She needed a ride, so I went from Springfield over to the coast, picked her up, and then on up to beach Foot. And the first night we're sitting there and I was so tired, I started grounding. I took off my shoes and socks and everything. I'm sitting there in my chair and my grounding myself to kind of relax and you know, give some of the energy away.

4:33 And she's across the field at another camper site, some other researchers there, and we hear this call. It started out kind of like a bart alcohol just for half a second. Then I went I bo fell out of my chair laughing. I was like, that was funny, and that was a sad attempt at the alcohol. And then it did it again, except it didn't even attempt to this guy's itself as an owl. It just went I'm laughing. I can see her on the other side laughing, and the other two researchers that were there. So on the last night, which was the Sunday night of that weekend, there was two other researchers right across the trail from me.

5:18 They're probably thirty feet away, and there was one camp at the other end of the field, which on the other side is like a day use area, so there's nobody over there. And we heard a tree knock and I was like, well, I thought it was just the camper over there, you know, the other researcher which I didn't know him, and he came in on a motorcycle, and then I heard all of us heard the tree knock, and then then we heard movement coming up through the bushes between us and the river. And when I got up the next morning to break down my tent, I tripped at the back corner of it. There was a footprint in the backside of my tent, so and it matches the size of my juvenile. And I only told one or two people this because for me nowadays, when it comes to experiences, I keep a lot of it to myself because it's personal and it becomes personal after awhile I have no interest in proving it to anybody.

6:19 I know they exist. I've been face to face, as you know, and close enough to touch one, and I've had several other experiences that you would consider face to face. You know, They've been close up, eyes on, thirty to thirty five feet away, you know. And my last one, number six, when it was the juvenile and the alpha female, I was allowed to get within ten feet of them, and I was armed as well. They know that I will not harm them in any way, that I would actually use my firearm to protect them. So they've never had a problem with me carrying a firearm. I hear all these other stories. Oh, they were upset I had a gun and you know all this. I said, well, you know, I've kind of all my whole life, so it's never been a problem. So that shows that you know that and there's I'm not the only one that has them follow them around, and I think it's kind of a protection thing that they protect us. And so when we did Oakridge, it was the last day Sunday, you know, everybody was packing up, everybody was getting ready to leave. Several of you were going out on a little night thing that night. And I spent well, actually during that day. There was two things that I did that or one thing that I did actually with two different people, and I was motivated by it. Sometimes they'll talk through you, you know, and motivate you to do different things. And that's the kind of connection I have with them. I have a different connection to the most people.

7:47 I have no fear of them whatsoever, as you know, and so I interact with them a lot more than most people do. And there's only a few of us who are a handful of us that do that. And but I walked up to Gwendolyn Guthrie and I looked at her right there. I just just out of the blue walked up to her and said, are you ready to see one? And she's like yeah, I said, can you get over your fears? She says, I'd be okay with it? Then I walked up to you right after that. I said, Jeremiah, are you prepared? Are you ready to see one? And you said, yeah, I think I am. And then I told you what to do and what kind of mindsets you needed, you know, to uh make that happen. And why I did that, I don't know.

8:33 It was I I kind of it feels like I was kind of the in the middleman for the festival up there for some reason with the Sasquatch people. I had no clue mine were there. I felt like they were there. But you know, I don't go around and say, well, you know, they're over there in the bushes or anything else. You know, I don't point it out or anything, but you know, I do get a feeling that you know they are around, and when they are around, and uh, look what happened for you, you know. And guess what. Gwyn ahead a siding that and I too. She says, well, the crew doesn't believe me, but I asked her for a description and it matched my juvenile JJ. She called me buckethead about about did laughing, but yeah, it massed his description to size everything. And uh, I said, well, I think that was probably my juvenile because I know they're here, and uh, because I got to talk to her after, you know, and kind of the same thing.

9:26 You were you were headed the airport when you got a hold of me, or you were at the airport actually getting ready to board your plane when you when you got a hold of me and told me about your experience, and I, uh, I did watch your uh your podcast with Henry and everything Rest his soul. But yeah, Henry, Henry's right, you know, we some of us do get that connection, you know, and it does have something to do with your spirit. I think your energy, your vibration, and that's how they choose you. You don't choose them. You don't go hunting them, hung them all you want you going to find one. You know. It's about who you are that causes them to want to know you. Because we glow, but it's not in a wavelength that we can visually see ourselves, but sciences just say that we glow, you know, and maybe they can see that glow, you know, maybe they can see your frequency or the vibration that you're on as might be the way they choose you, and then they link up with you mentally. And when they do, it's it's a game on. It's on your way. That's that's that's your trip down into the rabbit hole.

10:35 If you don't feel comfortable speaking for Glenn, I'm going to speak with Glenn eventually, just he's very busy with school stuff right now. Was it was it at the area where we had been going up to throughout the week. Well, she went up with Jason and the crew. They had the whole film crew with him, and Sasquatches have a way of being able to set things up to make things happen. What I understand is there was a baby deer that was separated from its mother, which they could have possibly done that, and with Gwynn in her heart, they were all going to try to capture this deer and go return to the mother because they could hear the mother bleeding for the out for the child, you know, for its young one. And so they got up to a spot and gwyn saw it and she jumped out and ran to it. So that left the film crew behind.

11:28 That gave if it was jj and the opportunity to appear to her. And yeah, very interesting how it all happened. Because the film crew was left behind, no cameras. She was hollering for a flashlight, and I told her that's why I said this, this is a possible thing. That they set this up, you know, to separate the deer from the moment, because they know how you are and they knew what you would do, you know, and that was their way of separating you from the film crew to make this happened because you wanted to happen. And I think they sent me to you that day and asked you are you ready, just like I did you Are you ready? Yeah? Like I said, this is going to be kind of mind blowing and once it starts swirling around there, you're just going to be going, Holy cow.

12:20 That's that's incredible because and I'm trying to think of where I was, but I was that night. I was up there, but in a different area with different people part of the like. Yeah, there was definitely a long extended area of time when Jason's group was away from us and we couldn't find him for forty five minutes and they just happened to be running down the mountain when we were driving down a service road and just happened to intersect with them. Very weird stuff. Bill. That was probably when it all happened. And during that time period, right there, Gwen, I know she was hollering for a flashlight because she wanted to see Bucket, which I think is hilarious as she calls him that. I said, well, yeah, because they kind of looked like somebody just stuck her head on his monsterous bodybuilder. You know. But JJ's not that big. He's still he's around ten years old. But at ten years old, he already has a ten inch foot print. He's right around six feet tall now, and when I first met him three years ago, he was about five feet and nine and a half inch print.

13:30 And because I do have casts, or at least one cast of his that was casteds a loan. And the great part about that was it shows that amazing mid tarsal break. His foot's extremely flexible. I see. It was just amazing. And one of these days we'll get to that story. Yeah, I got quite a bit so, but let's go ahead and roll through this. Well, that day after everybody was leaving, everything was breaking down. Briscilla and the family were getting everything broke down, loaded up out to go. Matter of fact, Ron and I Ron Roseman, which I saw your interview with Ron, and I answered some questions for Ron about why they were angry, and that's why he wanted to talk to me. Ron and I sat there and talked for seven to eight hours that day, that's how enthralled we were. And he was telling me about everything that happened. Then he got to the park where you know about that they were angry at him and everything, and he wasn't really sure why and where the anger was coming from from them. And I figured it out and it was pretty simple, is he did a vocalization. They're not used to him doing that and they know that he doesn't need to do that, and for them, they took it as he was mocking them.

14:53 We don't know their language, we don't know what they're saying. We can't you know, translate what they're saying, or you know, I'll try to say it back. So that is when everything went. South for Ron so and that was a part of it. He's just like, well, we're gonna sit down here and talk. Well, yeah, we talked for a day hours, but we lost our chairs. Pigs a society will be right back. After these messages, Priscilla.

15:34 Had taken off then she came back to get him. But in that time period, there was a vendor that was set up by the stage there, young lady doctor Love. I started hitting over that way, and something told me no, not yet, So I just kind of shied away from her and didn't go over and introduce myself or anything. I was just curious of what she had going. She wasn't there or the Sasquatch thing. She had nothing to do with sasquatch. She was just there as a vendor. She makes herbal cures and remedies. This all come together eventually here. So I was just like, well, that's, you know, kind of cool stuff. But for some reason I kind of shied away from her booth.

16:20 Well, after everybody was gone. We were sitting there and she come walking up from the trail down off the river now the will Lammett River, not to Willa Matte. She had this her hand open, flat out with this round green stone in her hand and come walking directly to me. You know, as Ron and I were sitting there talking and we're just going, well, this is interesting, and she just had this just very kind of perplexed look, and she says, I just got gifted this by a juvenile young Sasquatch and I looked at it. I said, well, it kind of looks like a turn and for some reason, yeah, I asked her, did you ask his name? And she said, JJ. About fell out of my chair. JJ. My JJ is the only Sasquatch on this planet named JJ because I named it.

17:20 And oh yeah, if you don't take my jaw at the ground, I was like just flabbergasted. I can't think of any other word. I was just twitter painted, you know, all the weird ones. You know, it was like holy cow. And she says, you really think it looks like a turd? I said, I call him the little turd. I said, that's the funny part about this. So we started laughing, nice polish green rock, and you know, it was just she said, I was down with the river and and she says, uh, I had locked eyes on him. He was across the river and and you know, speakin with to start with. Until I was on my way home and really got to process a lot of the stuff that she told me. I thought, well, you know, I've put out some podcasts out there and talked about my Sasquash family and how they are and everything, but there's things that I haven't told people, and these were the signs I was looking for. And we've had several texts back and forth, a few phone calls. She was supposed to get back to me, she called about two weeks ago, but we haven't got cooked back up again. So she's been busy that time year. She's out forging, so she's getting all the herbs and medicines and things together right now.

18:42 That just blew my mind that she fucked message. His name was jj. I just I just couldn't believe it. And she described, well, well, Ron was there, but we talked about she says, yeah, she says I was down there, and she says I had eyes on him. He was across the river for about fifteen minutes. And she was just recovering from some things here because she had been poisoned with a day or two before Gwynn and the team were I'm not sure exactly. I heard little bits and pieces here and there throughout the weekend about somebody being found and you know, the car was broke down and they were very sick, and it was her. She'd been poisoned. And the reason is is when I was doing research on I'm not going to say, I'm not going to mention the word. You know, everybody knows what I'm talking about. And I ran across her in there for things that she was curing, and I ran across a doctor that she had mentioned doing the same thing that they were working on research of healing people from this.

19:49 And so they've tried to destroy their practice, try to add them disbarred, tempted on their lives. There's been attempts on their lives, on both of them, and so but I didn't get the epiphany or remember all this until I was I went up to the Salt Creek Falls on my way home. I took the back roads at ninety seven and across and come down to southern Oregon, and it hit me when I was up to the falls, going to wait a minute, I know who she is. I ran across her when I was doing research on this because I've refused the shot, you know, because I did my research and I have enough friends that are scientists. So they said don't and I trust, and I'm glad I did. But as far as they tempt on her life, I believe it. They've been trying to offer her and this other doctor for some time because of the controversy over the things they.

20:46 Are doing because they don't want people being healed. They don't want us being healed, you know. So there's a lot. Like I said, this is a crazy thing. I don't know if I don't care if anybody believes or not, but I'm telling you. This is the way it is. I'm going to start reading for my notes. I have two pages of notes here. I got home that night, even though I was exhausted, I had to get this down. So I've got Today's the last day of the Sasquatched Summer Festival in Oregon. Okrit to Oregon. The story actually began two days prior with Gwynelen Guthrie, a young woman they found in a car that broke down in distress.

21:27 I'll have all involved relieve they're part of the story, to toab Johnson to put it in chronological order. I've been kind of prompted that's the best thing I'm going to do right now is what we're doing right now, is I going to put it out there. I think this will protect her even better, because you know what, on my last podcast I checked this morning, I've had over eighty thousand views. That's a lot of people knowing something. And I told her also when it comes to the research she's doing, when they are ready to publish, put it out everywhere everybody, you know, have them share it, have them share it, have them share it. They can only stop some much of it, you know. So that's the only way to get it out there is to put it out there, and put it out there in a mass volume. So for her own protection. So I'm doing this for her protection as one of the festival friends.

22:12 Having the time in my life, which I did, I had a great time enjoying their company and Karen, a lovely lady with a booth natural remedies named doctor Love. I was compelled to avoid her, as I just said, for the time being. Little did I know that I and my Sasquatch family of study have involvement in this story. As I said, I seem to be the pivotal person in this whole thing, which was pretty crazy. I've always said that they follow. Me everywhere I go when I'm in. A forest setting, actually come to my house and I live in the city, so most folks have find it hard to swallow. But here lies the proof. But that's not what it's about his confirmation to this fact. I'm writing this while it's still fresh in my mind. So as soon as I got home that night, directly, I jumped right on in my notebook and started just writing everything out that I could remember. So the Roseman family was breaking down everything involved in the festival, while Ron Rosen and I had involved in a serious conversation about his experiences with the Sasquatch people and hoped that I could give him answers that he needed, and I did the best I could from my experiences. Our conversation went close to eight hours that day, which was amazing in itself.

23:37 You could likely write a movie about the things that we discussed, or a couple of them. Actually, time flee why quickly during our conversation as the festival had ended, And there's a lot of typos. In this, so forget me here and there. I got to translate my own writing because I did it fast and quick, and we were basically the last ones there. And matter of fact, when Priscilla came back and she came back to drag Ron out of there, I stood sitting and put my arms off and went last man standing has got them all laughing because I was I was the last last one there. Uh So it says basically what the last ones there, and already everybody had already exited the scene. We were approached by doctor Love with a green stone in her open hand.

24:28 She related that it had been gifted to her by young juvenile Sasquatch. Earlier, she'd been sitting at the boat launch at the other end of the park with her feet in the water. There was a strange man that had been watching her and made her feel very uneasy with his presence. She gestured her feet in the water and could clearly see in the water between her feet. First of all, she said, it wasn't there when she sat there, so it appeared after she had eyes on JJ across the river from her. She's okay, she said. She sided a young juvenile. He and her washed each other for fifteen minutes straight. She felt calm and no fear from him. Like I said, she has never had an experience with sasquatch, and she really wasn't interested. So all this was kind of mind blowing, you know, for her to come up with this story. So he and her washed each other for fifteen minutes straight. When the juvenile had left. She found the small half inch round green stone between her feet and felt it was a gift to her, which she didn't know nothing about gifting, you know, So how would she even know that he gave her all these feelings of you know, trying to relate to her, which they do to me the same thing.

25:48 She where was I. Oh and out of the blueway. Asked her if the juvenile gave her his name. She immediately said JJ or something like that, just like I said earlier about fall about fell out of my chair when she said JJ, JJ's the name I'd given my alpha males juvenile over three years earlier. Yes, she could have found this information through interviews that I have done as a witness of my class A sightings, but I didn't personally feel this was the case. There were the last seemingly random events that took place before this conversation and meeting happened. We'll encourage all involved to write story for the role in the event. I asked her to describe him. She stated, it was just not him there. His whole family was there across the river, just inside the tree line across the river, observing. I asked her to describe them, and she described them to me to the letter, all four of them, and I just last year found out that there was a fourth one that was a baby. You know, it was a toddler. So I call it tautas because it's a toddler. I don't know if it's male or female.

27:07 They haven't introduced it to me yet, and I can't wait for it to happen. So it was an elaborate okay. I asked her to describe them. She described me to the letter. If this is a hope she is pulling, it's an elaborate and well executed one, was the thought in my mind. I confirmed her descriptions of them to be one hundred percent accurate and ready to relate to her that they follow me and keep me safe. She really that they told her they were adopting her into their family as they did me, which that just kind of blew my mind as I go, okay, well, welcome to the family. At this point, I was blown away by what she was saying. She was either heartfelt or an amazingly good actress. We continued speaking. Ron was sitting next to me, listening intently to the conversation. I mean, he was cluded could help it, you know, But she had been on the other foot. I'd been in the same way, only been the time that he'd been silent the entire day. She felt that she'd been poisoned by the strange man She encountered by the river by some unknown substance. She said she was led to her car by this man, and the rest was very foggy in her mind. She found herself on a road driving the wrong way to where she was intending to go. She had turned around and somehow found the highway while fighting

28:38 the middle state she was in. She was pointed at the highway and felt that she had put her car in park. She seemed to feel that she was in and out of consciousness. At this time. She awoke to her car being rocked violently, which I concluded was probably done by the Sasquatch, and I think they did it to wake her up, to get her coherent again, and I think they did to keep her safe. The next thing she remembered was that she was rolling out into traffic, only stopped when her vehicle hit the other side. And I think they pushed her out there purposely so she could be found, so she could get help. She seems safe from being struck by cross traffic. And you know, there was a lot of traffic going by that road all the time. Hi Way fifty eighth is a pretty busy highway. I felt that's rocking of her car may not have only had been to awaken her, but to delay her timing for her car to cross the traffic without harm to her, just a small window of opportunity to do so around a busy highway cross traffic. She had been found soon after by researchers from the festival that we're able to assist her. She actually she called nine one one on herself. When the ambulance came. She had thrown up violently, which probably expelled most of the poisons that were in her system, and when she had got into the hospital, the hospital confirmed that she was likely poisoned and that but they didn't know by what.

30:11 You know. So when it's a high agency or a dark agency, they have things that we have no clue what they are, and they're not known to science because it's not something they have out. There big for society will be right back after these messages. Because they like to do things covertly. Doctor Lette said there was smoke and the brakes had locked up on the car. Gwynn was able to assist her in getting the vehicle fixed. That's Gwinn Guthrie of course, and running again.

30:56 But meanwhile Ron and I had. To give up our chairs. So that was all we had left in the park. Uh. Priscilla returned to get ra and move towards home. I stood up and stated just as I said earlier, last man standing to her. As we all laughed in Priscilla, I got in her car and left. It was just her and I left in the event area. She had a large glass of water bottle. It was like like the cooler bottles, but like a half size but made of glass. And I didn't want. Her to pack it. She was just going to pack it all the way over to the other side where the boat launch was, which is probably about five hundred yards, and I was like, oh, I won't you just hop in the van and you know, I'll just drive you over to your car and stuff. So I was parked on the roadway while we talked. I'd moved my van a few times to be out of the way of other cars because it is a rest area, you know, as well as a days, Harry, and plus it's a boat launch right there. When I saw a wider RV headed my way, I pulled on the boat ramp. She pointed across the river and said, JJ and Mama are there across the river from the launch just as we were speaking. You know, I didn't look because I know what they look like, first of all, and this was for her, not me. So sometimes you act as in an immdiary with them, and I think that's exactly what they were using me for at the time. I told her to have no fear of them and that they were here to protect and teach her. She told me they told her the same thing. JJ had to instruct her to gather some cedar and that he wanted her

32:29 to touch it as well as gifted back to him, because she kept saying that they wanted her scent on something, and so the instructor, you know, we want you to cut some seedars, and I told her how to do it, and I ask the tree. You know, I'm natives, so there are ways we do it in a sacred way, and I told her how to do it. So she followed my instructions on that. She texted me later to tell me how you know. The she completed the task, it was getting late. I needed to go. I should have left hours earlier, but I felt I had to continue this conversation. Matter of fact, we'd still be talking if she was traumatized by the event about the car and very possible a tempt on her life. She said, Jay J told her they would get her through it.

33:20 I didn't know that that would be through me, which was her trauma, because in the middle of me tallner and taller her that that was likely maybe one of my sassquatches that shook her car to wake her up, to make her more coherent, and kind of keep her wake because when you're poisoned or even like a concussion, you've got to stay awake. You know, that's number one to save your life. I was a caregiver for fourteen years, so you know, and with a traumatic hitting brain injured people in the last six and a half years of my career. She called Gwynn while we were talking and gwyn asked her, you know about her trauma. I hollered out, as well, we got it taken care of. I think I figured out, and I said, they kind of used me to kind of calm the trauma in her and you know, kind of made it disappear. It was close to seven pm. We exchanged numbers and I told her I would take her sometime to where my sasquash family resides up in my research area. In the future. It'd be interesting to see what happens. She said she was headed for Climate Falls in a few weeks to gather medicine, and she contact me. Then I got a couple of messages from her on my way home, which I'll add low.

34:39 She said when I was up at the Falls on my way home from there. So the Falls was probably thirty forty minutes north on Highway fifty eight from from there. At oak Ridge, where we were, she said, JJ come up beside me tonight, made distinct noises that both myself and a friend hurt because she had to go back there. She just couldn't leave there. She just was hooked. And she said he was so near. He's protecting me, so nobody does me any harm. He's so skilled and clever. His mother is very pleased with her son. I'm simply amazed as it's happening. I didn't know they would come so close to me, so that was the first test she sent me, and she sent me a picture of the cedar that she had picked that he instructed her to pick, as well as a leaf that he wanted her to wrap it in and just leave it out and he would pick it up. So the next one is I left JJ and offering at the river in the same spot he left me the stone right after you left. He watched me from across the river as I collected the items and put my scent on each plant.

35:46 He surprised me when he came and took the offering within minutes after I walked up to the embankment reached my car. I heard loud noises as he briefly picked up my offering, probably excitement the first time, I think his parents, I will just say, turn him loose with me in the woods. I heard the craziest sound I ever heard in my life that I can't describe, and for me, it was more like he was doing. A woohoo, I get to go put the bell. That's probably what he did to her too. He was really excited, so he gave off some little crazy wooho thing of his. She says, Oh my, he was so eager to have it there predicting me, thank God, and now I can hear them so easily. So she's getting the direct mind speak and it's really linked them together that she is very, very linked to him. I let her know that, you know, I had that. I made it home okay, and I got that is so awesome.

36:47 Prepare for an amazing journey. This is me. Have no fear and learn all you can. There are the ultimate teachers that will transform your life into good and amazing ways. I made it home safe, and I hope you did his Well, we will have to process all the things that took place today. Check. Well, I'm here. Don't worry. I lost my spot because I had to expand my thing here. Wait wait wait wait wait wait did you just hear me say check? Yes, I did. How is it that's not possible? Like I had my microphone muted? Seriously, Well I heard you say check really absolutely. Dude, that's nuts, okay whatever, Like this is crazier things have happened.

37:36 Man. Uh, just just keep your mind open, Jeremiah, keep your mind open because and don't try to explain what you see. Just go okay, that was interesting. Don't freak out because the craziest stuff's going to happen, and when you're there and when you're around them, it's it's really hard to describe some of the things, but it's totally mind blowing. And just document it. Document it as soon as you can write it down every detail you can, and just move on. You know, later on a lot of those answers of what you have in your mind are going to come because they're going to show you other things and eventually it all comes together. So I made it home safe, and I hope you did as well. I will have to process all the things that took place today.

38:29 I'm feeling it awe and inspired. Sleep well, yeah boy, and I was. Quiet. It was absolutely mind blowing. The next text I got from her was a high build gladiment at home safely. It was a pleasure being led to you with clues. So JJ came within a few feet of me last night. I went down to the river again after dark, at a different spot. This time he came crashing in from behind me. She said, I felt the reverberation of his footsteps. Maybe two what you do? They're a heavy creature in JJ. When I said that, you know, he was excited to see me he come up the hill and all you could hear was bom from doom, just really making hard, heavy steps with purpose to let you know, hey, I'm on my way, and uh yeah, I know exactly what she's talking about. Uh So he came crashing through from behind me. I felt the reverberation of his footsteps maybe two, and the powerful snapping of branches or twigs. Then he made gentle sounds with his mouth. A friend was with me, so she has even another witness. She heard it too.

39:48 She thought it might be a dog, but was not at all the sounds of a dog. It was JJ. The best festival provided me with critical information. So that's what's good for people to get out to things like they get to learn things, you know, so that just makes everything worth it. She says listening to t Bone, which is Tobe Johnson recordings, was also critical. She said, I told him about this, Please call him, talk to him about this, Take care and talk to you soon. So I've talked to her a couple of times, and she says JJ's is continuing. She moved further up into the woods to be in a safer place. I told her how to protect her phone from keep to keep from being tracked, which is basically, you take three milar potato ship bags, put your phone in there. Three layers of it seems to block the signal completely because even if you take your battery out, crush your phone, whatever you do to it, they can still track you by your phone. So people be aware of that. So I texted her on Tuesday after that, just checking in and know you're okay, and say, remember right down. Everything you remember, include text and phone calls between us. All send it all the t bone. He's gonna put the full story together and it may help keep you safe by doing this.

41:17 She says. The coolant in my car was almost out again. This was the following Monday after that, and my electrical system is still not working or showing me the meter. I'll get Carl looked at so I can take a trip to come visit you. I told her that car is a pain, hoping his easy fixes for you, you know, because Carl has got her killed. She bought a second hand car and that's all she had. So then she texted me on Friday, August second. I saw JJ tonight. He came to the house today and healed me. And they do have that quality that they can do that only if it's doesn't involve your free will. They're not allowed to interfere with free will. And they understand that, and they've made me understand that as well. They have helped me out. I have neuropathy in my hands and feet, and my back was really I had issues with it.

42:18 And I woke up one morning and I felt a big hand on my back my lower back kind of freaked me out. I'm looking around and what was that. Oh oh, I think they were helping me out. Happened another time I felt hands on my feet. I'm looking at my feet. I threw the blankets back, going there ain't nothing there, and my feet were better. So, yeah, these things do happen. So she says that I saw JJH and I he came to the house today and healed me changed my frequency totally. And this is one thing I can say is while we were an oak ridge, I felt my personal vibration kind of go up like tenfold.

42:59 And that was before all this happened, and before everything even started. I was kind of freaked out over it a little bit. You know, I never told anybody. This is the first time I'm putting it out there, so I'm telling everybody now. But I felt my vibe just like go through the roof. So I think I was being prepared for all this that was going to happen, and for facilitating like possibly being the facilitator of your sighting and Gwyndoline sighting and you know, and for what was going on with doctor Love. So I said this evening, I saw him move in my woods, a beautiful red pelt. They can appear you, appear to you at any time stage of their life, forge or backwards in time. From what I understand, I've had other people tell me this that they've experienced that, and they can change colors, they can do different things because normally he's black, I mean like black hole kind of black. This sucks in the light.

43:59 So I thought that, well, that's kind of interesting. I said, awesome, this is my text bag, So glad they're helping you. You have good work to do, and they are making sure your path is clear. So she texted back, Yes, they are clearing my path and at the same time burning up karmic ties for me at record speed. I feel so grateful, but I know it's because of the great work I am continuing to do. She says, I moved deeper into the National forest on a high prairie with artesian Well, it's heavenly here. We have old growth trees in our backyard. JJ shows himself to me briefly last night. While I was sitting on the deck looking out into the forest. He was a few yards away and moving stealthily through the woods, because they can move through the woods faster than grease lightning, and just a glide.

44:58 It's just so easy, such an easy glide that they do. It's just amazing to see, she said, put at faster as a normal speed. She's not used to all this stuff, so it's all every bit of it's new to her. She said, I just kind a glimpse of him as he seemed to glide, just glide rapidly. Uh. This time he made no sound, which is common. You know a lot of people will hear them around them and uh. I encouraged her to record all this, and she she called me. I said, well, you really need to document all this, you know, and get it to Tobe or me or somebody, you know. We need to we need to get this all together somehow. But that's why I decided, you know, I think to better protect her is to put it out in your podcast.

45:47 Right now. Big for a Society will be right back after these messages, because. You have from time we met see the following you have. Now, Wow, wow. My friend, you have just exploded. The growth of jig society has been amazing. I checked this morning just out of curiosity, and just the one I did is at eighty thousand views. So I thought that was incredible, and it just keeps ticking up. I was like, last time I checked, it was seven nine hundred or so. Now you know it's another thousand and still taking up. The cool part was while we were at Oakreadge there was two people that had mentioned that Jeremiah, and Jeremiah came up to me and says, hey, Bill, somebody's got some questions about Bearer. Would you mind talking to him? I said, well, heck yeah. He said yeah, I told him he's here if.

47:00 You'd like to talk to me. Kind of blew their minds that I was there, so so I got to got to talk to those two people that had come up there and mentioned that about that podcast and everything. So I thought that was pretty cool. Gave me a couple of new friends and a couple of new fans. It was it was really cool that happened actually a few different ways, just random people talking about certain episodes and I could be like, hey, let me go check with the person because they're kind of here. But I didn't want to give you away, and if you didn't want. To be given them, oh no, I was for it. So it was it was very cool that that story because doctor Love is not a bigfoot person. She but the way she's talking is she's talking like someone who's been in the community for years and years exactly wild.

47:56 And the other on the thing is why I understood that she's told me things about my this Sasquatch family that I've been studying for three years now and had lots of contact with. Matter of fact, I've been over two and a half hours in their presence, eyes on, you know, and there aren't too many people that can say that, and uh, but she told me things about them that nobody else knows. So I was like, well, wait a minute, ding ding ding. She'd say this like a ding ding, I'm not going to put it out there because nobody knows, and I want to keep it that way. You know, okay, something like this happens again. You know, I have those little things if they mentioned these things, and she just happened to mention these things, and I was just like, right on, Okay, she's one hundred percent for real, this is all really happening. It's not somebody pulling the hooes on me. So she decided that instead of writing it because she doesn't have time most of the time, because she's so busy working on things, that she did an audio recording of everything that's been happening so far, you know, just up to that point.

49:03 It's over two hours long of her testimony of all the things that happened from I told her to do it from the start, from when you ride there the river, the creepy guy, you know how you felt uncomfortable all the way up to where you're at right now. And that's what she did. So I'm not sure if she sent it to Tobe yet or not. I haven't sent him anything yet. And I know Gwyn's been really busy. But there's other people, you know, they're you know, in a roundabout involvement in like Ron Roseman, you know, because he was sitting right here when she walked up to us. You know, we were in the middle of that conversation and it all stopped. Like I said, first, I Ron had been quiet all day. He was just glue to listening to every word and listening to her and I back and forth, and for him to see me about fall out of my chair when she said, JJ, I mean that that was the most mind blowing thing that could have happened you, that it's my Sasquash family, and that she's described them to a tee exactly every single one of them. And I'm like, wow, it's just been totally mind blowing. I told you this was going to be crazy.

50:12 This is the probably one of the most wild stories I've heard in the last few years. How soon did the mind speak. Start for her? Right away? It was it was saying the first sighting, oh wow, JJ was relating things to her mentally, and then after she did the synth thing with the bag of the with the cedar that he asked her to make. Because what's happening is they've assigned him to her because he's in the learning process, so as he's learning, he's teaching her. And everything went ding ding ding with me because I was wondering why, because it's so rare that you get to see a juvenile with the adults. Sometimes you'll see a Juvenile's pretty rare to see one. You know that in my fist sighting that started my whole craziness here of my my trip down the rabbit hole. That he introduced me to the juvenile. I didn't understand that. Now I understand. He was as signed to me like I'm his project, and I've been a heck of a project for him. He has changed me in profound ways. When I was in Canada last September, a year ago, almost almost a full year, I saw things there that I thought would never I would never see in my life.

51:43 There's all that stuff you go, not a bunch of WHOI you know, I'm trying to keep it clean here. I almost wore my shirt too. I see you're wearing yours. I almost wore I was actually wearing it yesterday. But yeah, I saw things up there. I saw a portal. I'm like, okay, I can't deny what I just saw. And I have a friend that took a picture of it. Inside the portal, you could see sasquatch's faces. There's like four or five faces in it, and there's a triangle and square. There's all these little shapes that were in there. And the funny thing about the triangle part was is on the last night there, Brian Bland was the host. Brian and his wife Susan. Susan had an experience. She could hear one outside of her tent doing the rock back and forth, and because you can hear their feet shifting, and when that was going on at the same time, I was in my tent up on the hill. They were down the hill. There's a helicopter landing down there for emergency services and stuff, and they were camped right next to that, and I was up the hill by the shelter, and so there's probably hundred and twenty yards between us, and I was getting some weird, crazy download. All of a sudden, my eyes are closed and they lit up with my eyes closed, just the brightest, brightest yellow, and I was

53:17 seeing triangles. So yeah, very strange things. And when this is all over with for her she was getting she kinda called it a download of some sort from them. And my first thought after I woke up, I was like, well, that was interesting. I don't know what that was, but I just kind of kept it quiet at the time until Brian came back and I said, well, you know, I kind of had a little experience at the same time she was having hers, and so when that was over with, I first thought in my mind, I was like, everybody's already gone. There's only a handful of us here. Now, you guys decide you're going to hang out. And then I hear, because my sasquatches do this, they clack sticks together to kind of say thank.

54:11 You or you got it. I heard tap tap, No, did I just hear that tap stop? Stop, stomp, stomp stomp. Let me know. Yes, they were there as he stopped off into the woods afterwards. So I've had a lot of crazy things happen and in places that I've just just amazed, absolutely amazed. So that's that's about it for her. We've talked back and forth on the phone a few times since then. I've missed her last call unfortunately, so I work graveyard shifts, so people are always missing me. So you've got a short window of time in the evening or in the morning to get a hold of me. And so I texted that back to her about the times that I'm available.

55:01 So I was actually going to call her this weekend to kind of touch base with her and tell her this is what I'm going to do, that I'm going to put this out there for you, and I want to make sure I figured, Okay, well, this is a little more output and out going there, because your reach has gone absolutely crazy since our first. Interview and you hadn't even. Hit Oh geez, I don't think you'd hit ten thousand yet. You're probably about seven or eight thousand subscribers. Then you're way up there now, way up there. It's yeah. I mean sometimes I that's the crazy thing, Bill, because sometimes I forget and how big it has gotten, and so I have to like remind myself, like there can be repercussions because it is so big now, and like there's a lot of people listening, which is amazing, but it's all also like, man, you just got it.

56:03 You gotta be aware of that. Like the stuff you're you're putting out like everyone around the world is it's it's it's crazy, man. It just feels crazy, doesn't it. Yeah. It's like me and people people going I know who you are, and I'm like, huh no, you don't. They're like, yeah, you know, I heard your story. Oh, oh okay, or I read read your story in the book, and I went oh Tom's book. I forgot all about it. Yeah. I was up at uh squash Fest up in Tacoma and I was with Ken Gerhart. A couple of people had come up to me and says, I know who you are. I recognize your face from your picture in the book, and and I forgot I was even in that.

56:44 I was even in Thom's book at the time. And the look on kid's face was really surprised. He's like he's taking some of the glory away from me. I just laughed at it. He's like my little brother. So but yeah, I'd forgotten. All about that I was even in a book. I don't even think about things like that. You know. I'm not in this for any kind of glory or anything. I'm in this to kind of help people. And I think my biggest part in the whole thing is to kind of help facilitate people to have contact with them, to dispel that they're not the Boogeyman. Yes, they look big and scary. We all grew up on monster movies, you know, so and everybody going, well, this is just your imagination. You know, what about when you're a little kid and you got your imaginary friend. Maybe it's not imaginary, you know, maybe you're in a different frequency that you can contact something on a different level or a different dimension. See, my mind is way expanded, Jeremiah, and I know yours has just God bananas. And you're still it's gonna be a while, You're going to process this for the next couple of years. Let me let me tell you that you know, it's not an overnight thing. And I'm surprised that you actually did your own interview coming out so quickly, because the last time I talk to you said it was probably gonna be ten or twenty years before I'm going to be able to talk about this, because it just blew your mind so much of the things that happened, and that you got your sighting. And I noticed as soon as you got home, you hit the field, you

58:16 got out there. I was like, right on, Jeremiah. So now you're hurked. So it's definitely a thing where things are progressing, and I'm just I'm not really sure about a lot of things yet in the way that what I had said to you, I wouldn't probably talk about ten years. I have no problem putting that out now. I'm glad, and you know why, We'll leave it at that for now. You know why.

58:58 They know who you are, Jeremiah. They know what you do through people like me and stuff because they can they know everything. I can't hide anything from them, so they know my associations. They knew I was going to be an oak Ridge, they knew they were going to follow me there. They knew there was people there that I cared about, like you. You know that I have an association with that I'm very comfortable with and really want to be good friends with, and like when you know, and you were the two that I approached out there, and you were the two that had sightings. You know, they understand, they know who you are, and they like what you do. They like that you're getting the information out there from all these people, all walks of life, all types of careers and family everything. You know, They're people from every walk of life that you've had on your show. Some are terrified of them, which was kind of funny.

59:55 When I was doing my. Fifth siding, I was actually reading Sasquatch face to face. The book I'm In by Tom Cantrall. I'm not sure if they thought it was funny or what, because all everybody's terrified, you know, and they knew I was traumatized. But I caught over it because I I was open minded. So I just buried all that down deep and try not to think about it, try not to talk about it the rest, you know, for most of my life. And that was the only fear I had left in my life that I hadn't conquered. Because I'm one of these people, I understand that you make up your own fear. Sometimes you'll adopt fear from like your parents, or your brother, your sister, or a friend. Oh spiders, I'm afraid of spiders. Boom, it goes into your mind and you lock in on it.

1:00:41 Now you're afraid of spiders. You know, those things happen. So it's about getting over those fears. Everybody. You can conquer your fear, you know. You just have to face your fear. And that's the biggest thing is face it and have no fear. And once you drop your fear, the things that they do they do with purpose. So if you've had an encounter with one, they're doing it on purpose. They're testing you. They know that you're a good person, that you've got a good heart, and they want to see what your reaction is going to be. And some people are just totally terrified, not ready for it. Big for a society will be right back after these messages.

1:01:35 They like what you're doing, and I think I've been kind of put to the task of kind of just like I was for oak Rage is kind of being the intermediary, you know, for them and letting people know that they are not the monster that you think they are. They are actually very gentle, loving creatures. They look scary as hell. Oh yeah, trust me. When I was face to face, I'm surprised I didn't soil myself. I really am. You know. I'm glad I kept together. That would have been a funny run home or into town that night, but yeah, it was. Just if you're having those encounters and you want to have an encounter and you have seen them, one of the best things to do is, like Tom taught me, is an armchair squatching, go out in the woods, take a book, take a lunch with you, go find a nice white spot where there's not a lot of people or no people Okage. There was a lot of people there and there's still things that were going on staying with Beach Foot. We got I think it was like eighty six researchers there and we're having activity and that's happened for the past two years. The ones that were there last.

1:02:50 Year were not mine. They weren't my family, my Sasquatch family. They were actually Casey Miller's another researcher that just lives about fifteen minutes away from me. But they were there for her. They had made a few things for her while we were there, and she found them. Because when they play something for you, it's for you. When you find a glyph or a rock or a feather when you had just been there and there was nothing there, that is placed there for you. When you find that footprint, that is placed there for you, and it's funny because you only find one. Well, Jason and the crew while they were there, found two footprints, and I want to know what the funny part is.

1:03:35 Actually there's two footprints, and there was handprints on the car. Doctor Love said, JJ put the handprints on the car because they weren't going to show themselves to them because their film crew they didn't want to be on camera and stuff, so they wanted to let them know, Okay, here's something for you. And one of the footprints was stolen. Don't know if it was you or it could have been one of the asquatches you said they didn't want the footprint. The funny part is is two different sizes of footprints. One was possibly my alpha male because the dimensions and everything in the shape and I saw pictures of them matches his exactly, and the smaller one at fourteen and a half inches matches the alpha female. So yeah, there's a lot of things that happened there that and it was with my family of them, you know, that went on and I don't know if they were messing with them or or what they were doing, but they did leave evidence there and to show that they were there.

1:04:47 So it was a I told you this was going to be a crazy story. It's gonna be hard to. Believe, you know. It's just, I mean, there's intrigue, espionage, all kinds of things going on in this story. It's like this, this is just it was the craziest thing I've ever encountered my life. I mean, the the last five or six interviews I've done, and these people are not connected in any way, just the stuff they've been telling me, and just all bets are off, and just you know, I know I've mentioned this a few times, but one of the weirdest things was going to the same area multiple times but with different people each time, and seeing how the intention of the people involved in the group affects what happens.

1:05:38 That absolutely makes the difference. What was what I told you what your mindset needed to be. I told you you need to have your mindset clear that you would like to see them, that you're not going to be afraid of them, and you're not going to run screaming like a little girl or anything if it happens. You know, I told you you need to have that mindset that it's okay, I'm ready. And that's what you did. You you when you talk to me from the airport, you said, Bill, I followed everything you said to the letter, and guess what it happened. It happened for you. And that's the whole thing. And that's what I think I'm supposed to do, is to let people know this, if you've had an experience, you can continue that experience and This is how you do it, because they are approaching. If you haven't noticed this, and a lot of other researchers are noticing this, is they're approaching more and more of us. There's a lot of things that are going to be happening, a lot of changes this earth, this realm we're in here, and they're trying to save a lot of us from it.

1:06:47 And I think that's that's part of why they're approaching more and more people. So they're they're testing people more, They're they're having more coming out for more people. So if you've seen one that put you in a connection with them, so try that. I'm sure squatching. Just go out, sit in the woods, read a book, just relax, clear your mind, keep the mindset, and say, hey, I'm okay with it. I would like to see you and see what happens. You know, I go out, You catch me in the woods and you think this guy's bananas. I'm out there talking to the trees. You know, I'm talking to the woods and talking to them at the same time, and I'm interacting with them because they'll do tree knocks and rock clacks and stick taps and to answer me.

1:07:34 You know, when I'm out there and sometimes they they've taught me a lot of things. I just mentioned yesterday about and I think you've heard me say this a few times, is they've been teaching me patients. And they've been doing this over the past couple of years because I think they had somebody in mind for me, lady wise, because they knew I've just kind of given up and it's been part of it. And for her, I have to be very patient, and because she's gone through a lot as well, and a lot of traumas, and and they were grooming me for it. They have a funny way of doing things and making things happen that are just really intriguing and mind blowing at the same time.

1:08:26 But just go out and talk to them now, they would say, hey, how you doing. It's a great day, you know, talk to the trees whatever. You know, they're going to see you interacting with things. Another good thing is respect, And a real fast way for you to gain respect with them is pick up the trash. Wherever we've been, we leave trash. We're pigs. Human beings are pigs. You know, everywhere you go there is trash everywhere. Go along, start picking up the garbage. They respect that, and that respects them. That gives them a lot of respect, and especially seeing you cleaning things up like that, because they are the masters of the forest. If you think that doesn't bother them with us throwing wrappers down and leaving garbage and plastic and crab behind, it absolutely does. It bothers me when I go in there. Was I quit hunting for the longest time because I got tired of following the beer cans beer guns. They don't match too well.

1:09:27 That's not a good combination, you know. I was getting more and more worried that I was going to be shot out there by something moron. It's half drunk, you know, sport and his rifle thinking I'm a deer. The whole thing is is don't be afraid of them. Really, don't be afraid of them. If they are being aggressive towards you, they don't like you, or you're doing something wrong that you've upset them. I've had them throw rocks and stuff, but they don't throw them at me. They throw them across my trails, let me know they're they're It's kind of like, hey, I'm here. It's like, oh oh hey, then I'll start talking to them, start chatting with them, and I get interactions back and forth, you know, and it's just to let me know that they're If you hear them at all, they're just letting you know they're there.

1:10:17 You hear that tree break, that cracked, that snap that that tree knock, if it is a tree knock, you know, someone's thinking that they're doing this this clap with their mouth open, because they have such a big capacity that it can sound like a tree knock, you know, until we see it actually happen, you know, we're never gonna know. The things they can do are just absolutely mind blowing. They are the masters, and I think they are master scientists just like Henry said, I really do, and I think they do use us for a lot of things like that that were their hands because they do have thumbs, folks, but their thumbs don't run out here like ours do. They're running line. It's like having an extra finger, so it doesn't give them a lot of use. So when they grip things, they have to grip across this way.

1:11:06 They can't do the thumb wrap around like that. Everything goes in line like this because it follows their fingers, and that's evident from handprints and everything else. I have a couple of them hanging on my wall, and these are from ones from down in the South and ones from up here in the Blues here in Oregon, which was one of Freeman's, and they got the same thing. Also, they don't have this joint here, this little fingertip, which we call the flan cheese. It's like they're missing that last little joint. So that. Really takes a lot away for gripping things and grabbing things, you know, small things especially, So those are just things to keep in mind and be aware of. So if you're gifting them things, try out to give them a bunch of junk food and garbage, please, you know, I mean, having a hard enough time with the chemicals that we take in, try to give them things that are natural, you know. Give him apples, Give them bananas, like his bananas worked. Apparently bananas work. I've never I was like, I'm not gonna make him think that I'm dealing with a gorilla, you know, So I've I've never gifted bananas.

1:12:19 But now after the story, you know, I just might take some bananas and see what happens I've given I know, mine here they because I've heard stories from back east where they like garlic. So I was like, okay, well, I'm going to give mine some garlic. And I've got those little easy peel uh tangerines, you know. So I gave him some of those. Well, I went back to my gifting area. They were mixed all through a bag of apples, and they picked out everyone and set it on the ground in front of the tree and took the apples. I was like, okay, you don't like tangerines, Uh, you don't want golic. Matter of fact, I planted garlic at the spring. They pulled it up. They didn't want to plant it there. They didn't want it there, so they took it gone. Garlic will grow just about anywhere as long as they're any kind of minerals and the soil and stuff. They can grow in some of the crappiest soil. All garlic cares about is the minerals, and it'll grow. No, they took it. They're like, no, we don't want to grow and they're like, oh, okay, that's cool.

1:13:28 So and it all depends on the type of year or time of year or two. So try to bring them things that aren't actively growing at that time. Right now, apple trees are everywhere, and there's apple trees all through the woods. Matter of fact, there's there's one, two, at least three up in my research area, and they all have apples on them. Right now up my area, I've got apples, I've got wild strawberries, I've got choke cherries, I've got huckleberries, I've got blueberries. There's all kinds of fruit for them. And there's organ great there is. I didn't found salmon berry's up there, which that was a surprise to me. So there's lots of food, and there's lots of medicines out there too, And from my understand they're master herbologists as well. And that's where doctor Love comes in and the help that they're giving her because that's what she does, and I think they're helping her perfect her craft to heal a lot of people. And her and this other doctor have already healed a lot of people over these things, and they've been able to heal them from the jab and purge their body of all this. I'm still processing everything, even out after a month or so. You know, it's just I just don't know what to say happen about you know, all I can do is put what happened what I wrote, be objective.

1:14:51 This is what happened you and Gwynn in a roundabout way, you know. And there's Ron Roseman because he was sitting there when she came and approached me. Tope Johnson knows about everything that was going on. I don't know how many other people are involved in it, you know. Then there's Jason to the film crew. I mean, it's just there's a lot of us. It's probably about a dozen people involved in the whole thing in a ferral way. So that's that's what really makes it even more incredible that it's just it's just not me blowing smoke up anybody's backside. This is everything that happened, and each of us can corroborate parts of every bit of the story, you know. So and that's the crazy part. It's like, this is just insane.

1:15:37 It really is. What a movie this would make. It's so wild. How yes, it is all connected through different people. It's it's extremely interesting. I don't think the story is done by a long shin. I don't think so either. And I will let you know how things are going with her, and you know that she is safe and everything. So you know, you and I each other whenever. Well, my schedule is kind of weird. We'll text each other and if you've got time for a call, we can do that. But yeah, I'll keep you up to date on how things are going with her and stuff, because she does want to come down here and go to the research area where they actually do live, you know, and and and spend a lot of their time. Oh did you see the tree break I posted the other day.

1:16:22 I'm gonna have. To it was. It was showing me that they're still coming there. You know that, and they reassure me from time to time. So this is one of those classics what everybody wants to find. Let me see if I can get it up here to you so you can really see the twists and turns. Totally. Wow, that's crazy, man. Let me get it on a camera. There, there you go. So this is Do you think the wind did this, Jeremiah where a tree falling across it? I don't think so.

1:17:03 I mean, check that out. I mean it exploded all the fibers in there, and it's almost a twist and braid at the same time. This. I got this last week and it was fresh, so it was kind of a signal to me. And they leave me these casual little things. It could be a rock, it could be a feather, it could be different things to let me know everything's cool, don't worry. You know, we're still coming back and forth, and uh, just a reassurance to me. And the crazy part is that just before I went to whack this branch, it thought got projected into my mind. You're gonna cut yourself. It's almost almost healed, but right on the end of my thumb.

1:17:47 I don't know if you can see that, but I whacked it with my little pull saw because these things are laser sharpsion and what I use. And I was like, wow, okay, after I cut myself, Okay, so I'm looking for some usnia, which is called old man's beard, and it's that stringy looking beard looking stuff hanging off the branches of the tree because it's anti my chrobial, anti fungal, all kinds of stuff. It's amazing healer. And I wrapped my thumb and that then the next thought that came into my head is we want your blood sample. All right, Well, that's kind of weird. So when I finally pulled it off my thumb, it looked like a little tiny hummingbird nest.

1:18:36 And so there's another tree break directly across from this, across the road. This is on the north side and I'm on the south side, and the spot that I'm in is the part I'm only like seventy five feet from where i got the bear. So I'm in the gifting area and what I call their dining area. And this other tree break has been there forever. It's out of a madrone which down back east to call it Laura Wood. It's related to the Bay family bay leaf. And so right in the twist of this one, I put that little spot. It's still there. They haven't taken it yet, and I also left them a gift of jerky and some brownies, so they haven't made it back over yet, but I'm sure they will. So I will check on that next week to see if it's still there or if they came to get it. So I'm really curious. So why they wanted a blood sample. It's an interesting request. And you already knew I was going to be cut, so you know, I'm pretty careful with these saws, and I really try not to kept myself because they can take your arm off, that's how sharp they are. So I mean I used to build, I do the will of furniture and things along that line, and so you want the sharpest tools that you can find.

1:19:50 And these these saws are laser cut and it's a pool saw, so it cuts on the pole, not on the push, so you get really precise, very very clean cuts. So I can build these furniture without any lumps and bumps and all that stuff. It makes it really real easy and you have to have the right clippers and stuff. So but yeah, it's a what a ride. So you're just well, you're no longer circling the rabbit hole. You're in the rabbit hole now. My friend, we got definitely keep in touch all the time. I got to know these things going on with you too. So because this is AH, I love it. I love every minute of it. And Gwyn's back at Gwynn has not been out in the field in about two years. Yes what so she got home boom, she said, I'm getting out in the field now. So between her first school work and everything else she's got going on, she's getting back out in the field again because this inspired her to get back out there, which I think, like I said, it was done with purpose. Everything they do is done with purpose.

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1:22:56 Her and I can get on here. We can tell our stories. Maybe there's somebody else out there listening it's too afraid to tell their story. Maybe this will give them the courage to come out. And now it feels so bad about it, Who cares what anybody thinks. I know what I saw, I know what's out there. That's all I care about. Please let people know, Please let them know. If you've ever seen. One of these things, you need to tell, because if you don't, then shame on you.

1:23:40 You know, shame on you,