Oct. 15, 2024

The Sasquatch of Lake Cushman, Washington

In this episode of Bigfoot Society, Tim returns to share captivating tales from his off-grid camping experiences near Lake Cushman, Washington. Known for intriguing Sasquatch encounters, Tim describes a chilling set of experiences including...

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Season 1

In this episode of Bigfoot Society, Tim returns to share captivating tales from his off-grid camping experiences near Lake Cushman, Washington. Known for intriguing Sasquatch encounters, Tim describes a chilling set of experiences including discovering footprints in the snow, mysterious vocalizations, and even a sighting of two juvenile Sasquatches. During a summer camping trip, Tim and his partner encountered eerie noises, vocalizations, and gifts from an unseen intelligence, leading them to believe in an ongoing interaction with the Sasquatch species. This immersive recount of Tim's encounters includes interactions surrounding the 4th of July and a fascinating dream involving Sasquatches.

Resources:

Previous episodes with Tim
First episode - https://youtu.be/LDr_vlCmf0Y
Tracks episode - https://youtu.be/HuH7-g2MnAM

Olympic Strange Days - https://www.olympicstrangedays.com

Bolero - https://open.spotify.com/track/3KtsRijwp8KunCRYlOdWEi?si=828a98d899a6496e

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with the show. All right, Bigfoot Society. You've got the

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privilege of talking to Tim again today. Tim is a

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gentleman that's been on the show a few times and

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he's shared some really interesting things that have happened up

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in the Lake Cushman area of Washington. But it's a

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pleasure to have you on the show again. Tim. How's

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it going tonight?

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Oh, it's great. Thanks so much for having me on again.

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Jeremiah, It's an honor and a privilege to to be

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on your show again. And we've got more to share.

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So yeah, I can jump right into if you'd like.

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Let's do it ahead and go right for it and

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take us to where we need to go today, Tim.

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Yeah, So we've got this off grade camping property that's

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near Lake Cushman and back in spring after you know,

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some sort of speculative encounters we've had over.

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The year and a half.

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Back in spring, we got the confirmation with footprints in

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the snow which I was able to photograph that I

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call the mother and child footprints that have a clear,

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large sixteen inch adult sasquatch print with a smaller i'd

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say nine inch print inside of that print. And I

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explained a little more about that in the last show

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and kind of left off there. So to pick up

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where we've left off, things have gotten real And as

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I've heard about you, Jeremiah and your time in Oregon,

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a lot shifted over the summer for you, and I

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can say the same for myself, things have changed since

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we've last talked.

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In short, we are in it. We are in.

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A communication with this species, this intelligence that has been

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frequenting our camp or the wild ravine that is just

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beyond our camp.

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It's a lot has developed, let's put it that way.

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I'm going to get into reporting some of the vocalizations

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we've received, gifts, physical gifts, communication visitations, and I even

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have a sighting to report. I kind of had a

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feeling that things would continue to happen after the footprints

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were presented to us, because I now I now feel

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like these footprints were presented to us or you know,

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perhaps to anyone who might be nearby, although we're the

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only ones camping, so it seems that they intentionally set

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these footprints as a sort of an introduction.

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I know this sounds weird to a lot.

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Of people, but but this is kind of what we've

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ventured into, is as a sort of a rapport with

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this species. So I'm going to backtrack just a little

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bit to share something that I was reluctant to share

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the last time I was on the podcast, and it's basically,

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we had a sighting, me and my lady, and it's

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something that's taken months, and I wonder if other people

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have been through this where you see something and you

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can't digest it. It's too much. It's too much for

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you to process and put on a shelf and go, Yeah,

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that happened. It was a day after where there was

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still snow on the ground at camp. It was the

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day after, about twenty four hours after we'd arrived and

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we'd found the footprints, and we are shuffling about camp

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in the middle of the day. We're chopping wood, I'm

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shoveling some snow to kind of create pathways from our

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trailer to our fire, things like this.

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Kind of shuffling about camp.

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And the neighbor next to us is a vacant lot

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that is fenced in on three sides and it's only

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three sides, but the one side that's open is open

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to that ravine directly above where.

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The where the footprints are found.

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And as I would say, about two thirty in the afternoon,

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like I said, we're shuffling around camp. We're just doing

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our thing, trying to maintain warmth.

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Again, it's snowy and rainy.

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And out of the peripheral of my vision I see

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two brown furry round heads pop up above the neighbor's fence.

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It's about a five.

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And a half foot fence, and it's not about two o'clock,

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you know, two o'clock, you know, as in like I'm

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facing twelve, it's at two o'clock. And so I see

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this one head goes bo peek a boo, and then

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a few seconds later, about a two or three feet away,

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another one bloot pops up and down, and.

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My lady looks at me and I look at her

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and we kind of did you see that? Yeah? Did

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you see that? Yeah? What was that? What was that?

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I take a deep breath and slowly start working my

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way toward that fence, which, by the way, solid wood,

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you can't see through it, and peek.

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Over and there's nothing and.

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I've ruled out the possibility of, let's say, a hoax.

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There were no footprints that were, you know, boot prints

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anywhere nearby. This is a fenced off, vacant lot that

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you can't get into unless you climb up through a

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pretty steep section of woods.

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They were round, kind of a.

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Dirty blonde brown, almost like the color of a coyote.

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Coloration. And I really am set on this was.

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This was two young juveniles that were peeking over to

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take a look at us. It just aligns perfectly with

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what was presented to us and what later happened down

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the road, which I'm going to get into, which is

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a lot of activity. So it's taken a long time

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to acknowledge that this was an actual sighting, that it

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was gentle, it was measured. It wasn't frightening to us.

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It wasn't It was a bit startling, but it wasn't overwhelming.

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I feel very, very lucky to have to have be

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abed to scene, to have seen just what we saw,

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which was just enough to be an acknowledgment of here

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we are, we see you, and you see us, and

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that's all. So that's kind of a bit into the

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old account if you've got any questions about that. It's

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something that, like I said, I've been milling over for months.

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So yeah, absolutely, So you looked over the fence. Were

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you able to look at the ground on the other

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side of the fence at all?

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Yeah, And this is basically so it had been really

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snowy the day before or and then the snow. The

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snow is really patchy this next day. So we still

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had snow in our lot because it was you know,

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a lot more shade and this spot was patchy snow.

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So there were no prints in that area, but a

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lot of a lot of dirt, a lot of bear

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dirt near near where we saw the heads pop up

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and down.

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Did you see the whole head or just a little

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bit of the head?

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No, No, I'm I'm I'm I'm thinking half of the head.

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I'm thinking from what I can gather.

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You know, like you see half of a circle, it's

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basically like half of a circle. So you know, that

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would put it technically about nose height to the edge

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of the fence, to the top of the fence.

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Were you able to see any any details of the

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top of the head, like eyes or or anything like that,

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where that you would have seen on the top of

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the headed all.

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No, but I was trying to think of, like what

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exactly shape comes to mind, and the only thing I

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could think of is like a large.

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E walk without ears. Does that sound weird?

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No, that's awesome that I think that's a great way

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to put it. Most of most listeners will will get that.

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I think.

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Okay, okay, again, you know, five and a half feet

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up and just a split second, blue back down and

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then blue back down. But the color was the color

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was the most significant thing. I mean it was it

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was like a coyote, that dirty brownish blonde color, which

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you know, I didn't expect that at all.

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But pretty mind blowing.

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And like I said, sometimes, and there might be other

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people that can relate to this, it just takes time

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to let this sink in.

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So so there's a sighting.

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It's not the most profound, clear ominous, you know sighting

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that you hear about and a lot of these encounters,

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but who knows that that might be coming later.

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Still, I mean, I bet that it took you a

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long time to get to the point where your mind

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wasn't trying to explain that away and you finally were like, Okay, yes,

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I did see something I can I can deal with this.

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Yeah, yeah, I think we're still in a bit of

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denial at that time, thinking like, Okay, there's sasquatch prints.

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Maybe it was a week ago that it happened. Maybe

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maybe they're not here very often. Now I know they're

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there very very often. And that kind of brings me

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to the next section here, which again in the last

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podcast I did here, I talked about the fourth of July.

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If you might remember, there was a ton of activity

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surrounding our camp on the fourth of July of last year.

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So we had this idea of let's recreate what happened

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on the fourth of July this year twenty twenty four,

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just to kind of lay out the same ingredients and

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see what happens.

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So that's what we did.

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We went to camp on July second, a couple days

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before the fourth, and again we're the only ones camping

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in the whole region because it's a weekday. I think

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it was a Tuesday night, Tuesday or Wednesday night, and

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we did we did the stuff that we do. We

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cooked oysters over the fire at dusk. It's just really

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real romantic setting. We had the amaretto. We had the

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soul music going and some even some like flute jazz stuff,

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just having a lot of laughs and affection and July second,

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so after dark we start hearing the stick breaks.

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Various places.

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I would say typically three different spots will hear stick breaks.

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My lady heard this.

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I didn't hear it, but she heard over the other

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side of camp a whistle. This is around eleven o'clock

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at night. And then then you know, this is all

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kind of like, oh yeah, there's weird stuff making noises

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in the woods.

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Big for society, who will be right back after these messages.

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Then then we heard something very deep, very guttural down

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in the bottom of the ravine leave just just create

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two big grunts that were just in concession just r R,

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followed by more stick breaks around the upper part kind

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of around our camp, and we just kind of what

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do we do? We just stay stay put. You know,

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I get nervous. My lady she doesn't get nervous. She's

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just yeah, let's stay here, let's keep keep doing what

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we're doing. And I'd say ten minutes after the grunts,

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we hear four big bipedal footsteps, foot crunches down on

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the ground and I mean, like like.

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It's saying hello here, I am.

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I can walk four steps very loudly, crunch, crunch, crunch, crunch,

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just like that. Which at this point, I'm like, okay, okay,

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we have visitors, just like we did last year. I

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don't know if it's like a routine, but we're gonna

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We're gonna go with it. Sorry reliving this, Uh, these crunches,

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it's it's almost like they could have stepped gingerly, and

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I know that they can. They can step gingerly wherever

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they want. And these these steps were like designed to

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amplify noise up to to us to say, Hi, we're here,

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this is who we are. A few minutes later from that,

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we heard a voice and this is a deep, resonant,

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very distinct voice, and it sounded to me like it

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said the name Jeff.

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And I've heard this before.

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I've heard people call it the chuff, and I'm gonna

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embarrass myself by trying to recreate what it sounded like.

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It was a deep but longer, deeper and louder than that.

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At that point, I'm getting pretty nervous, and again, my ladies,

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just let's keep doing what we're doing.

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You know, this is our camp.

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We're gonna sit around the fire. We're gonna you know,

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have our food and just enjoy where we're at again.

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This is July second, coming up on fourth of July. Finally,

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it was around midnight, just after midnight. In fact, it

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was twelve nineteen to be exact. This is when we

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got the loudest vocal anything that I've ever heard in

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my life. Coming from the bottom of this ravine, seventy

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feet down below our camp, came this booming, polyphonic vocal

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that was one part deep guttural growl, one part high scream,

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and one part loud knock. I cannot recreate it. It

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was three sounds at once. I've heard of things like this,

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but to hear it in person was one of the

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most unsettling things. This sound, these three vocals at once

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almost sounded as if this makes no sense, Like it

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like it was coming from a metal room, like a

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steel walled room, like it had reverb to it, and

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there was a knock. I'm tempted to speculate that they

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have the ability to make a knocking sound in the

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back of their throat. I don't know how they are

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able to get a high pitch and a low growl

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at the same time. But all these three sounds were

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at once, this bah, and it happened twelve to sixteen

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times in consecutive like go.

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And this is what sent us.

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Retreating, retreating from the fire pit to our trailer.

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We we retreated. This was too alarming.

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I don't want to say it was terrifying, but it

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was disorienting. We had a lapse in time and distance

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for a few seconds as we were taking just a

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few steps, just maybe four steps from our from our

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campfire ring to the trailer. It felt like we were

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traveling this long distance from from one spot of camp

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to the other. As this sound was was was reverberating

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into the the entire camp. It felt like the sound

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had come up and then was coming from all sides

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into our ears. And we paused right at the doorway

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of the trailer, and we both lived on our phones

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and recorded just the last few of those knocking sounds

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before scooting into the trailer. And we scooted in there,

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and I looked at her and I said, we are

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in it. And I can't emphasize enough the feeling of

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we are in it. We went right to sleep. We

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literally it's like that noise was something that it knocked

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us out. I mean we went to bed and were

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just out until morning. I feel like I need to

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mention there's a distinct shift that happens, and you know this, Jeremiah,

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from what you experienced, when things go from an an

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interest in a curiosity. You know, you're interested in Sasquatch,

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it's a curiosity. When it moves from that to like

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an unequivocal communion with this species or this intelligence, however label.

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It, it's it's it's it's really real in a way.

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That's like.

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You're sailing into uncharted waters without a map. I mean,

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there's nothing, there's no guidebook that shows you, Oh this

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is how you respond to you know, these these interactions.

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The only thing I can speculate that was communicated to

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us clearly, because I don't know, I can clearly say

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that they were saying, we are here, we know you,

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now you know us. That's the only clarity that I have.

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I don't know if they were calling in the young,

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if they were telling us to quiet down. The only

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thing I can say is they were saying to us,

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we are here, we know you.

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And now you know us.

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So that still makes me nervous remembering that. But that's

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what I mean by we are in it. That that

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that that thing that happened on on July second is.

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It's sitting.

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It's sitting with me, really fresh. They put on display

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for us the extraordinary abilities that they have that they

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were displaying. We're not like humans or other animals, and

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the sounds that we make, and they in the way

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that we can control the environment or influence the environment

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or affect us, affect affect you like you know, how

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they can affect us.

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That sound it filled the atmosphere.

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So yeah, there's kind of the big one that happened

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on the fourth of July. I guess July second, I'm sorry,

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the fourth of July and the third of July. Actually

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we were prepared to hear more of this the next

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couple of nights, and guess what we heard nothing? Absolute stillness, nothing,

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which to me in retrospect, was very poignant contrast. It's

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a poignant contrast to the night of that loud vocal,

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because the stillness of the next few nights was like

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it was the message was, you know, we won't be

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controlled or manipulated. We come on our terms, we interact

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with you on our terms. It was humbling, like like,

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you know, for them to just display themselves in their power,

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you know, so so potently, And then the next few

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nights was still in nothing. It was just like wow, okay, ah,

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So yeah, there is the big one that's been sitting

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for a while that I've been wanting to talk to

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talk to you about here.

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So and you're right, I totally get it. I very

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much get it. So after you experienced that, did you

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find that being replayed in your mind or it would

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just be on your mind all the time or.

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It is on my mind mind all the time.

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I find beauty in it, I find uh something unsettling

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in it.

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I think about it every day.

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I think how lucky I am, how lucky we are

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that that we that we got to that we got

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this power displayed to us without violence and without without

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any real you know, horror like horrible repercussions. I think

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we're both really grateful that this happened, as weird as

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it sounds, as weird as it sounded.

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Yeah, So have.

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Your have your dreams changed after that? Is it something

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where you feel drawn back to that area quite frequently.

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Any things like that been occurring.

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That's an interest.

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That's so interesting that you I now you asked about dreams.

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That's really interesting that you would mention that I was

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thinking about sharing this on your show, and I wasn't

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sure if I was going to. I had the most

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vivid dream that wasn't like a dream.

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It was the most vivid like HD scene.

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Yep.

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I could paint. I could paint it with my eyes.

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Right now, I'm in the dream. I'm looking down into

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the ravine and I see four bears and.

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These bears.

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Stand up slowly, and as they stand up, they transform

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into a family of four sasquatch with an alpha male

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and a female and too young, and they look at

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me with these intense eyes, this intense gaze that locks

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me in. And I mean I could, seriously, I could

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paint a picture of how vivid this is. The hairs

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moving on their faces, everything is so it is so vivid.

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I could even like see the eyes. The eyes are

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almost it's going to sound weird, but Judd Nelson from

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the Breakfast Club, the male had his eyes and was

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looking at me, and again the message was like communicating

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with me with the gaze.

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Was we're here, We're real now, you know. And then

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they turn and they walked sideways into the trees and disappear. So, yeah,

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there's the dream. Feels weird to share that, but that's

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the most vivid dream I've ever had in my life.

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And I asked that because that started happening to me

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the days that I got back from Oregon back to Iowa.

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I started having very vivid dreams to the point where

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it felt like I could almost control them. And it

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was of the meadow area that we were spending a

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lot of time in and where there was interactions. So

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it's something where it'll come up every once in a

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while with people that have had interactions and I ask

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them that.

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So, Okay, I've not heard that, but that does make sense,

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I guess in a way it doesn't make sense, but

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it does make sense.

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Since that time, do you feel like there's been any

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whether interaction or communication with them.

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We've been back to camp several times since then, and

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every time every time there's been something. Every time there's

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been some kind of some kind of thing we felt

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or experienced or heard. So yeah, last month September, if

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you'd like me to get into some of the little

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things that happened there.

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I can get into.

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That big for society. Who will be right back after

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these messages. Absolutely yeah.

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Okay, So September so we go.

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So we go back to camp and it's there's a

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burn band because there's actually there's actually a forest fire

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burning not too far away, and we're like, ah, we

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can't have a fire.

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We want to camp anyway.

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So so two camp times in a row, and this

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is just again with my lady and I. We bring

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a bunch of tea light candles to put in the

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fire pits so we can actually kind of sit around

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the quote unquote fire, and this is really fun. What

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you do is you lay out aluminum foil and you know,

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we laid up about fifty tea lights and lit them

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and it's kind of it reflects, and you know, the

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flames dance, and we've enjoyed our little fire during this time.

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So the last time we're out there, we get to

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camp and right when we get to camp, I'm like, okay,

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it's been raining.

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We got this little.

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Canopy, it's one of those pop up canopies, and one

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side of it had collected rain and totally filled up

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this big, you know, half a bathtub full of water,

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and so we get out of the car and we

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run over and we're just laughing. We're trying to spill

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the water out of the canopy and we're laughing and

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it's splashing and spilling on the ground, and we hear

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a big fud in the woods in the ravine and

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in the same vicinity that we heard these vocals, we

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hear this big thud and it just so happened.

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To be right after, you know, we start laughing, and.

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So we're like, okay, And you know, we don't talk

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too much about sasquatch when we're out there. We just

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kind of observe and you know, we'll acknowledge it and

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then move along. So we're like, cool, something's out there.

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We heard the thud. But then we stayed two nights

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and the first night we're sitting around the tea light

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tea light candles and playing music and again just having

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some wine, chilling out, and big wood knock.

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This time it's not in the rovie.

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It's back by the road, and but it's allowed, you know,

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the big loud wood knock. So that's kind of unsettling,

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you know, it's just I want to observe this stuff,

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and I also don't want to, you know, jump to

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too many conclusions. So so we just continue on and

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we're just we're just camping. The next night, it's drizzling rain,

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so we set up the canopy right above the fire pit,

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so we got an have the candles going underneath the canopy.

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We're staying dry enough.

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It's the Northwest, so it's just like, you know, this

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drizzly little bit's a rain, no wind, and again we're

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the only ones camping in this it's a weekday. We're

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just we're just dead set on. We're going to camp tonight.

461
00:34:22.800 --> 00:34:27.480
We're gonna sit around the candles. And about nine thirty

462
00:34:27.480 --> 00:34:34.440
at night, it's dark, and that's when a stick comes

463
00:34:34.480 --> 00:34:37.719
flying diagonally into our camp.

464
00:34:39.760 --> 00:34:43.320
And I see it fly sideways and land.

465
00:34:44.119 --> 00:34:45.559
We have a lot of trees, we have a lot

466
00:34:45.599 --> 00:34:50.320
of big fur trees around camp, but this shot sideways

467
00:34:50.559 --> 00:34:53.840
and landed, and it landed where we usually kind of

468
00:34:53.880 --> 00:34:54.599
put up our tent.

469
00:34:54.719 --> 00:34:57.599
But we're not tent camping this night. We're just staying

470
00:34:57.679 --> 00:34:58.400
the trailer.

471
00:34:59.320 --> 00:35:02.880
So I go over on and I tell my lady

472
00:35:03.119 --> 00:35:07.159
h that stick just landed there again. We just try

473
00:35:07.199 --> 00:35:10.679
to stay real calm about this. I go over and

474
00:35:10.719 --> 00:35:12.800
I pick up this beautiful stick. It's got all this

475
00:35:13.000 --> 00:35:16.559
liking growing on it. It's clearly been broken off of

476
00:35:16.599 --> 00:35:21.280
a tree, because I can see it's dry on one side,

477
00:35:21.559 --> 00:35:25.159
everything else on it is wet. There's clearly where a

478
00:35:25.280 --> 00:35:31.280
hand had gripped and worn off the bark, so it

479
00:35:31.400 --> 00:35:36.719
had been reached, you know, grasped, broken off of the tree,

480
00:35:37.559 --> 00:35:41.599
brought to our camp and flung in. And I go

481
00:35:41.639 --> 00:35:45.400
over there and I pick up the stick, and I

482
00:35:45.559 --> 00:35:51.039
say to the woods, thank you, friends, thank you, we

483
00:35:51.079 --> 00:35:58.360
see you, We thank you for the gift. You know.

484
00:35:58.400 --> 00:36:00.519
I show them my hands, I show them that I

485
00:36:00.559 --> 00:36:01.519
don't have a weapon.

486
00:36:02.239 --> 00:36:04.880
I think this is something I continue to practice because,

487
00:36:06.800 --> 00:36:07.079
you know.

488
00:36:07.119 --> 00:36:08.960
To show that you're not a threat, I think is

489
00:36:08.960 --> 00:36:09.599
a big deal.

490
00:36:11.679 --> 00:36:14.400
Since, by the way, just just to follow up on

491
00:36:14.440 --> 00:36:17.679
the stick thing, I've since put it.

492
00:36:18.199 --> 00:36:21.039
I took a ladder and put it way up.

493
00:36:20.960 --> 00:36:23.519
On a tree that's facing the ravine so that they

494
00:36:23.559 --> 00:36:27.440
can see and acknowledge that I'm acknowledging that, you know,

495
00:36:27.519 --> 00:36:32.039
I was gifted this. So I've got it attached to

496
00:36:32.159 --> 00:36:34.880
the trunk of a tree. Way up high where it

497
00:36:34.880 --> 00:36:39.960
will always be to acknowledge that gift. So that happened,

498
00:36:41.760 --> 00:36:45.320
and then an hour later we're hearing again, little stick

499
00:36:45.360 --> 00:36:49.079
breaks here and there. We've got music going, but it's

500
00:36:49.119 --> 00:36:52.119
really low. In fact, this is the night when I

501
00:36:52.159 --> 00:36:58.360
was playing bolero, which I've now heard that other researchers

502
00:36:58.480 --> 00:37:02.559
or whatever have said, play the musical piece boalerro, bring

503
00:37:02.599 --> 00:37:07.199
him in. So we played that in its entirety, which

504
00:37:07.239 --> 00:37:12.960
is beautiful and intense. It's very intense. And around ten

505
00:37:13.679 --> 00:37:17.960
fifteen at night, we hear down in the ravine the

506
00:37:18.079 --> 00:37:21.280
same vote, the same voice we heard on July second,

507
00:37:21.800 --> 00:37:28.440
the exact same voice that did the Jeff sound and

508
00:37:28.519 --> 00:37:31.400
the knock sound and the grunt sound, and that same

509
00:37:31.599 --> 00:37:41.840
voice says a three syllable word. It says, oh wah oh.

510
00:37:41.880 --> 00:37:43.679
And that's not a very good impression of it, but

511
00:37:43.760 --> 00:37:49.760
it was, oh wah oh. I don't know what that means,

512
00:37:51.199 --> 00:37:58.119
but there it is. We heard another vocal and it

513
00:37:58.199 --> 00:38:04.039
was beautiful because this one was. It was gentle enough,

514
00:38:04.599 --> 00:38:09.920
it wasn't scary. It was just like, hi, I'm back

515
00:38:10.840 --> 00:38:16.800
kind of kind of thing. So yeah, that kind of uh,

516
00:38:17.559 --> 00:38:22.519
that kind of wraps up what happened in in September there.

517
00:38:24.079 --> 00:38:24.239
So.

518
00:38:25.679 --> 00:38:30.039
That that is really fascinating. Wow, So you randomly played

519
00:38:30.119 --> 00:38:37.039
Ballero without knowing how it's potentially related to Sasquatch research.

520
00:38:40.840 --> 00:38:48.360
No, I had heard about that from uh somebody, somebody,

521
00:38:48.400 --> 00:38:49.440
but I didn't.

522
00:38:49.599 --> 00:38:51.639
I didn't play it expecting to hear anything.

523
00:38:51.679 --> 00:38:54.639
I played it like like oh yeah, whatever I heard

524
00:38:54.679 --> 00:38:56.400
that this might bring him in or something.

525
00:38:56.760 --> 00:38:56.920
You know.

526
00:38:56.960 --> 00:39:00.440
It was like very nonchalant in the mix of like

527
00:39:01.000 --> 00:39:03.599
the other jazz and other things we were playing.

528
00:39:04.360 --> 00:39:08.679
Yeah, because at Sasquat Summerfest and Oakridge, like, it came

529
00:39:08.800 --> 00:39:14.079
up a lot and Toab Johnson would would talk about it,

530
00:39:14.199 --> 00:39:20.159
and it's actually something that Henry Franzoni would recommend people

531
00:39:20.199 --> 00:39:20.480
to do.

532
00:39:20.679 --> 00:39:21.039
Just that.

533
00:39:21.800 --> 00:39:26.000
He said that that something to the effect of the

534
00:39:26.000 --> 00:39:33.239
the rhythm was just very conducive to bring bring them

535
00:39:33.280 --> 00:39:36.400
in or it's just which is really interesting. It's a

536
00:39:36.440 --> 00:39:37.320
great song, you know.

537
00:39:38.960 --> 00:39:48.039
Yeah, h yeah. So so apparently rest in peace Henry

538
00:39:48.119 --> 00:39:53.360
van friend Zone. Yeah, it's a good good man he is. Yeah,

539
00:39:54.519 --> 00:39:58.239
so you know, there there was my little ode to Henry.

540
00:39:58.719 --> 00:40:04.599
H Yeah, yeah, exactly, it worked. It works.

541
00:40:05.639 --> 00:40:08.239
I would be curious if other people have tried that

542
00:40:08.320 --> 00:40:11.119
as well. If they want to reach out to me

543
00:40:11.280 --> 00:40:15.880
or or if they do try it, see what happens.

544
00:40:15.960 --> 00:40:20.599
So you did get a recording it sounds of knocks

545
00:40:20.639 --> 00:40:21.320
at one time.

546
00:40:22.880 --> 00:40:26.360
We recorded the vocal knock, that one that went about

547
00:40:26.440 --> 00:40:32.400
twelve to sixteen knocks, knock, vocal, groul, scream all at once.

548
00:40:33.880 --> 00:40:38.079
Yeah, so you have just the knock part though you

549
00:40:38.079 --> 00:40:39.559
don't have the whole thing recorded.

550
00:40:41.320 --> 00:40:43.960
It's a video on my phone. I mean, I was

551
00:40:44.000 --> 00:40:45.119
so shaken nervous.

552
00:40:45.159 --> 00:40:48.000
I just kind of did the swipe screen and hit

553
00:40:48.199 --> 00:40:52.000
record on video and you hear it, you hear it.

554
00:40:52.000 --> 00:40:53.079
It probably could be.

555
00:40:53.039 --> 00:40:56.000
Dissected and brought through it some kind of audio system

556
00:40:56.039 --> 00:41:03.039
that you know, shows the actual sounds that are happening.

557
00:41:03.880 --> 00:41:05.039
You know, it's it's it's.

558
00:41:04.880 --> 00:41:07.880
Not impressive on my phone at all, like it was

559
00:41:08.000 --> 00:41:10.360
filling the camp you know when it happened.

560
00:41:11.559 --> 00:41:15.599
So yeah, but it's potentially something which is incredible that

561
00:41:15.639 --> 00:41:19.000
you were able to actually record anything, because most people

562
00:41:19.039 --> 00:41:22.639
when stuff like that happens, they just can't get their

563
00:41:22.639 --> 00:41:25.480
phone open quick enough or they're not even thinking of that,

564
00:41:25.559 --> 00:41:25.840
you know.

565
00:41:28.360 --> 00:41:33.599
Right, I've missed every other one, to be honest, I've

566
00:41:33.599 --> 00:41:38.159
missed every other situation where but this one was this

567
00:41:38.679 --> 00:41:42.559
That noise was that that vocal was really like it was.

568
00:41:42.719 --> 00:41:45.039
We know it was directed at us, We know it was.

569
00:41:45.920 --> 00:41:52.480
It was showing itself so clearly and for so long.

570
00:41:54.559 --> 00:41:59.079
It's almost like it invited an opportunity too, you know,

571
00:41:59.480 --> 00:42:01.840
it was it was a vulnerability. Let's put it that way.

572
00:42:02.440 --> 00:42:06.119
That's how I interpret it, at least right now. Is

573
00:42:07.320 --> 00:42:12.360
it showed a vulnerability because it showed that it wasn't us.

574
00:42:12.800 --> 00:42:17.119
It showed that it wasn't an animal. It wasn't it

575
00:42:17.159 --> 00:42:19.920
wasn't it wasn't anything else that I could put inside

576
00:42:19.920 --> 00:42:23.599
of a box. And it was the loudest freaking vocal

577
00:42:24.559 --> 00:42:28.400
anything I've ever heard, I mean out of lions, tigers,

578
00:42:28.440 --> 00:42:33.159
and bears. Oh my, it was the loudest vocal thing

579
00:42:33.239 --> 00:42:38.960
I've ever heard in my life. Which is, Yeah, my

580
00:42:39.039 --> 00:42:40.880
heart still kind of skips a little bit when I

581
00:42:40.920 --> 00:42:41.599
think about it.

582
00:42:41.639 --> 00:42:45.000
Oh, I am absolutely sure that it's going to be

583
00:42:45.079 --> 00:42:48.159
like that forever. Is it anything where you might consider

584
00:42:50.039 --> 00:42:57.079
sharing that video just to see or even a clip

585
00:42:57.159 --> 00:43:00.599
of to hear what the audio is or I mean

586
00:43:00.760 --> 00:43:01.559
totally up to you.

587
00:43:01.760 --> 00:43:06.840
But yeah, I think I've got a friend that that

588
00:43:07.280 --> 00:43:12.679
has audio stuff that he could probably uh, you know,

589
00:43:12.880 --> 00:43:15.199
kind of take out the take out the white noise

590
00:43:15.280 --> 00:43:19.880
and and and maybe even dissected a little bit and

591
00:43:20.039 --> 00:43:21.199
see see what it does.

592
00:43:22.199 --> 00:43:25.960
But yeah, I'm sitting on it. It's it's there.

593
00:43:27.840 --> 00:43:30.760
No pressure, just throwing it out there. It might be

594
00:43:30.800 --> 00:43:33.320
really cool. It might be cooler than you think. I'll

595
00:43:33.320 --> 00:43:33.760
say that.

596
00:43:34.880 --> 00:43:38.679
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's been. It's been really interesting to

597
00:43:38.800 --> 00:43:44.079
be sort of thrust into this as I've taken an

598
00:43:44.159 --> 00:43:50.960
interest and got it kind of lines up with like

599
00:43:51.559 --> 00:43:57.639
how how we manifest reality, how we align with things,

600
00:43:58.320 --> 00:44:01.920
and you know we reality kind of cooperates with us

601
00:44:01.960 --> 00:44:06.480
and and and co creates. I know that's pretty metaphysical,

602
00:44:07.079 --> 00:44:11.400
but I've become really really interested in this, in this

603
00:44:11.599 --> 00:44:16.800
topic right as these things started appearing and making themselves known,

604
00:44:18.159 --> 00:44:21.440
and uh, if I if I could go into that

605
00:44:21.480 --> 00:44:22.719
a little deeper.

606
00:44:22.880 --> 00:44:26.320
As an example, something that happened last weekend.

607
00:44:27.880 --> 00:44:32.079
I camped with with my brother and my nephew and

608
00:44:33.280 --> 00:44:36.239
there was an event on the peninsula not too far

609
00:44:36.280 --> 00:44:39.320
from our camp called the Olympic Strange Days.

610
00:44:39.320 --> 00:44:40.000
Have you heard of this?

611
00:44:40.679 --> 00:44:45.400
Absolutely? Yeah, Okay, that's that's Okay. So yeah, I mean

612
00:44:45.440 --> 00:44:48.039
that's Tote Johnson's thing. I knew a lot of people there,

613
00:44:48.079 --> 00:44:49.360
so this is very interesting.

614
00:44:49.920 --> 00:44:54.159
Okay, Okay, So I had I had caught win that

615
00:44:54.159 --> 00:44:55.159
that this was happening.

616
00:44:55.719 --> 00:44:58.039
I looked it up. Tickets are sold out.

617
00:44:58.239 --> 00:45:02.159
It's like, well, you know, I catch wind in one

618
00:45:02.199 --> 00:45:08.280
of Tob's uh you know, the the live streams that

619
00:45:08.320 --> 00:45:11.039
he does that there's gonna be an after party at

620
00:45:11.119 --> 00:45:12.679
the Hamahamma Oyster Bar.

621
00:45:13.079 --> 00:45:16.159
And I'm like, well, I love the Hama Oyster Bar.

622
00:45:16.840 --> 00:45:18.079
It's it's not.

623
00:45:18.199 --> 00:45:21.440
Far from our camp. So I told my brother, I'm like, man,

624
00:45:21.519 --> 00:45:23.280
let's just go to that thing. Even if we're like,

625
00:45:23.559 --> 00:45:25.840
you know, like kind of fly on the wall, We'll

626
00:45:25.880 --> 00:45:28.320
just kind of sit back and just kind of listen

627
00:45:28.360 --> 00:45:32.119
to some of these some of these bigfoot research people.

628
00:45:32.960 --> 00:45:36.960
So so we plan on it and we go. And

629
00:45:37.000 --> 00:45:39.000
this was Sunday of this week.

630
00:45:38.800 --> 00:45:44.039
And and I and we're looking around and and right

631
00:45:44.079 --> 00:45:49.440
there there's Tob Johnson with with this big like sasquatch

632
00:45:49.559 --> 00:45:53.119
head and and some displays, and and I go right

633
00:45:53.199 --> 00:45:53.559
up to him.

634
00:45:53.599 --> 00:45:57.440
I'm like, hey, what's going on? You know your Tobe?

635
00:45:57.519 --> 00:46:00.400
I know you uh, you know, you're You're cool.

636
00:46:00.440 --> 00:46:02.760
I'm a fan of what you do and A Flash

637
00:46:02.760 --> 00:46:05.719
of Beauty and I look around and oh my gosh,

638
00:46:05.719 --> 00:46:08.679
there's a bunch of people that I recognize from from

639
00:46:08.760 --> 00:46:15.519
the documentary. And so I start talking to Tobe and

640
00:46:15.559 --> 00:46:19.000
I show him my prints the Prince and the snow

641
00:46:19.119 --> 00:46:22.840
of the mother and child print and he's like, oh

642
00:46:22.920 --> 00:46:26.840
my god, and he, you know, takes my phone and

643
00:46:26.920 --> 00:46:30.280
he goes up to Barb Shoop you might know that name.

644
00:46:31.360 --> 00:46:33.800
He goes up to her and shows are the print

645
00:46:33.840 --> 00:46:35.559
and she literally jumps out of her chair.

646
00:46:37.880 --> 00:46:38.760
It was really neat.

647
00:46:39.719 --> 00:46:43.519
And then I met Rich Jermou and that was really

648
00:46:43.559 --> 00:46:46.920
cool because Rich is in the documentary A Flash of

649
00:46:46.960 --> 00:46:51.840
Beauty and he's actually researched in the same.

650
00:46:51.679 --> 00:46:54.800
Area where we have our spot.

651
00:46:55.920 --> 00:47:02.480
So stay tuned. I might have plans to uh to

652
00:47:02.599 --> 00:47:06.320
camp with with Rich Dramo in that at our spot,

653
00:47:07.840 --> 00:47:10.760
which which could be really interesting.

654
00:47:11.000 --> 00:47:15.400
Like I said, suddenly I'm thrust into this, uh this situation.

655
00:47:16.199 --> 00:47:16.480
Wow.

656
00:47:17.079 --> 00:47:19.360
Yeah, but you know these people I met, I met

657
00:47:19.400 --> 00:47:23.719
the producers of A Flash of Beauty. Uh and then uh,

658
00:47:23.880 --> 00:47:27.239
Cherry on top here comes Ron moorehead Big.

659
00:47:27.079 --> 00:47:29.639
For a Society will be right back after these messages.

660
00:47:45.880 --> 00:47:49.480
Yep, I did not know Ron Moorehead was coming to

661
00:47:49.559 --> 00:47:53.599
this event, and here he comes, and oh my gosh,

662
00:47:53.639 --> 00:47:57.079
what a cool guy. I got to meet him. I

663
00:47:57.119 --> 00:48:00.239
got to, uh, you know, get my picture with them,

664
00:48:00.719 --> 00:48:04.159
chat with him a little bit about my experience, and

665
00:48:04.320 --> 00:48:08.519
I got to tell him, you know that his recordings,

666
00:48:08.559 --> 00:48:12.280
it's his recordings that Sierra sounds that. It was the

667
00:48:12.320 --> 00:48:16.599
first time that it really landed to me like this

668
00:48:17.039 --> 00:48:22.400
is reality because this is unequivocal.

669
00:48:22.440 --> 00:48:26.519
There's nothing else that can do that can make sounds

670
00:48:26.599 --> 00:48:27.000
like that.

671
00:48:28.239 --> 00:48:32.519
No animal, no human, nothing man made, nothing else, nothing

672
00:48:32.559 --> 00:48:34.639
can make sounds like that. So it was just it

673
00:48:34.679 --> 00:48:36.960
was just a really cool event. I got to I

674
00:48:37.000 --> 00:48:40.320
got to meet Ron fourread of I mean, living legend

675
00:48:40.400 --> 00:48:45.559
right there. So so yeah, that's kind of what's been happening.

676
00:48:46.360 --> 00:48:48.360
It's been a it's been a wild summer.

677
00:48:49.400 --> 00:48:51.800
Wow, that that is. That is so cool. I think

678
00:48:51.800 --> 00:48:57.559
the lesson there is, if you see something cool happening,

679
00:48:57.639 --> 00:49:01.199
don't be afraid to take initiative and just go for it,

680
00:49:01.280 --> 00:49:03.400
because I mean, look at all the cool stuff that

681
00:49:03.440 --> 00:49:07.360
you were able to take part in and the people

682
00:49:07.360 --> 00:49:09.719
you're able to meet, just because you're like, man, let's

683
00:49:09.760 --> 00:49:10.239
go for it.

684
00:49:10.639 --> 00:49:11.920
And that's right.

685
00:49:12.480 --> 00:49:16.239
My message to people is, you know, stay, stay astonished

686
00:49:17.000 --> 00:49:22.119
at this because this is a mystery that it deserves

687
00:49:22.159 --> 00:49:27.039
your astonishment. It's an astonishing reality and it is a reality.

688
00:49:28.480 --> 00:49:35.599
And I don't I'm not doing this for any real

689
00:49:35.719 --> 00:49:40.320
reason other than to share my own astonishment. But also

690
00:49:40.840 --> 00:49:46.440
i'd like to say something about the stigma. I'd like

691
00:49:46.519 --> 00:49:50.840
to see. I'd like to participate in getting rid of

692
00:49:50.840 --> 00:49:52.760
the stigma that's still out there.

693
00:49:54.519 --> 00:49:55.719
It's still a joke.

694
00:49:56.840 --> 00:50:01.679
People are still ridiculed people who've had really intense encounters.

695
00:50:02.440 --> 00:50:03.360
I haven't had.

696
00:50:04.719 --> 00:50:08.239
Intense encounters have left me with PTSD or anything like that,

697
00:50:08.280 --> 00:50:11.840
but there are people who who have and and there's

698
00:50:11.880 --> 00:50:14.360
still a stigma. They can't share, they can't share what

699
00:50:14.400 --> 00:50:20.679
they've experienced. And i'd like to participate in. And you, Jeremiah,

700
00:50:20.679 --> 00:50:24.760
are doing a big, big part in getting rid of

701
00:50:24.760 --> 00:50:29.159
the stigma with the with the platform that you've presented

702
00:50:29.199 --> 00:50:31.159
in the work that you're putting. And I can't imagine

703
00:50:31.159 --> 00:50:33.719
how much work you put in to get rid of

704
00:50:33.519 --> 00:50:38.880
the stigma of you know, how it's how it's looked at,

705
00:50:38.920 --> 00:50:43.800
how how experiencers are treated after they've had their experience.

706
00:50:43.920 --> 00:50:47.960
So I'd like to personally thank you for that, and

707
00:50:47.960 --> 00:50:50.840
I'm happy that I can also do my little bit

708
00:50:50.880 --> 00:50:51.360
of a part.

709
00:50:52.400 --> 00:50:56.639
Yeah, thank you. It is a lot. It's a lot

710
00:50:56.639 --> 00:51:01.239
of work. It's it's an absolute a lot of work,

711
00:51:03.519 --> 00:51:06.800
way more than I could explain. But it is a

712
00:51:06.880 --> 00:51:13.320
thing where I do see things starting to turn, especially

713
00:51:13.679 --> 00:51:17.639
with I mean, there's so many, you know, good shows

714
00:51:17.679 --> 00:51:23.400
out there that are giving people the platform to share

715
00:51:23.760 --> 00:51:27.119
and so this all this content is going out. Then

716
00:51:27.119 --> 00:51:30.519
you have Flash of Beauty, which are just incredibly produced

717
00:51:32.079 --> 00:51:36.280
video documentaries that really really get out there far, and

718
00:51:36.800 --> 00:51:39.840
you have all that stuff happening together right now. And

719
00:51:39.880 --> 00:51:45.039
I think that in a few years it's bound it's

720
00:51:45.119 --> 00:51:49.880
bound to affect things if we just keep going, it's

721
00:51:49.920 --> 00:51:52.119
going to affect things in the rest of the world

722
00:51:52.199 --> 00:51:56.320
outside of our little community. Right Eventually, you're going to

723
00:51:56.400 --> 00:52:00.679
put so much you know, you could say water and bathtub,

724
00:52:00.760 --> 00:52:02.960
that's just going to all overflow and it's going to

725
00:52:03.039 --> 00:52:04.119
go everywhere.

726
00:52:03.719 --> 00:52:12.880
Right, Yeah, yeah, exactly, Yeah, Tim, weren't maybe I'm pretty

727
00:52:12.880 --> 00:52:14.039
sure you said this last time.

728
00:52:14.159 --> 00:52:19.320
Weren't you starting to do research around the area, starting

729
00:52:19.320 --> 00:52:22.519
to talk to people to see if there are other

730
00:52:23.000 --> 00:52:26.639
encounters as well.

731
00:52:27.239 --> 00:52:31.719
I talked to uh, there's a there's a community store

732
00:52:32.079 --> 00:52:34.800
at a little uh yeah, a little country store.

733
00:52:35.199 --> 00:52:35.480
Yeah.

734
00:52:35.480 --> 00:52:37.320
And I talked to the owner of that store and

735
00:52:37.360 --> 00:52:41.360
his son and showed him the footprints, and I mean

736
00:52:41.400 --> 00:52:47.039
he was he was speaking of a astounded astonished. He

737
00:52:47.199 --> 00:52:51.519
was just like, oh wow, Wow, that's dal Creek. And

738
00:52:51.559 --> 00:52:54.079
I'm like, yeah, that's that's near dal Creek and he's like,

739
00:52:54.239 --> 00:52:55.360
you mean that du Creek.

740
00:52:55.480 --> 00:52:58.719
It's like literally it runs two hundred yards from where

741
00:52:58.719 --> 00:52:59.400
the store is.

742
00:52:59.599 --> 00:53:03.760
So yeah, he was really amazed. And his son, I

743
00:53:03.840 --> 00:53:07.760
think his son's about you know, late teens and and

744
00:53:07.760 --> 00:53:11.440
and he also was was really amazed by it. And

745
00:53:11.519 --> 00:53:13.480
you know, you know, it's it's really cool to be

746
00:53:13.519 --> 00:53:17.360
able to show people that, you know, that I do

747
00:53:17.519 --> 00:53:25.199
have this photo that clearly is something incredible and for

748
00:53:25.280 --> 00:53:30.119
people to take it seriously. So so yeah, I've spread

749
00:53:30.159 --> 00:53:34.079
the word at least to that that little community hub.

750
00:53:35.000 --> 00:53:39.679
So yeah, it's been fun, fantastic.

751
00:53:39.800 --> 00:53:45.239
Do you have any any future plans regarding this or

752
00:53:45.239 --> 00:53:47.760
maybe just kind of see how it all plays out

753
00:53:47.840 --> 00:53:51.159
and keep just experiencing it.

754
00:53:53.679 --> 00:53:58.360
Well, the camp out with Rich dramo that's going to

755
00:53:58.440 --> 00:54:01.639
happen this month if it if it does happen weatherwise,

756
00:54:02.239 --> 00:54:04.760
weather is the only thing that would prevent it, although

757
00:54:04.800 --> 00:54:07.880
I do want to emphasize it was drizzling rain and

758
00:54:08.360 --> 00:54:12.239
no moon and pitch dark when when we last heard

759
00:54:12.239 --> 00:54:15.840
our vocal and that was an I mean we're talking,

760
00:54:15.960 --> 00:54:18.239
can't see your hand in front of your face, darkness

761
00:54:18.639 --> 00:54:20.400
in that ravine where we heard.

762
00:54:20.159 --> 00:54:22.639
The oh what sound?

763
00:54:23.679 --> 00:54:26.800
So you know, rain's not going to stop them. Snow

764
00:54:26.880 --> 00:54:31.119
obviously doesn't doesn't deter them. So yeah, we're going to

765
00:54:31.199 --> 00:54:37.079
keep going out there. Yeah, it's it's it's exciting. It's

766
00:54:37.119 --> 00:54:42.159
exciting to be sort of in this phase of communion

767
00:54:42.199 --> 00:54:49.559
with with this intelligence. There hasn't been anything regrettable or

768
00:54:50.920 --> 00:54:55.480
you know, overwhelming. It's it's it's been, it's been. It's

769
00:54:55.480 --> 00:54:58.760
been pretty beautiful the way the way it's been so far,

770
00:54:58.960 --> 00:55:04.880
So be great of it, you know, continued. I would

771
00:55:04.960 --> 00:55:09.000
like I would like another visual, And that's something that

772
00:55:09.079 --> 00:55:09.599
you know they.

773
00:55:09.440 --> 00:55:14.719
Always say, be careful what you wish for. Yes, but

774
00:55:17.800 --> 00:55:20.519
wouldn't you like to make eye contact just for a second?

775
00:55:21.039 --> 00:55:29.880
Uh, I don't know, Yeah, No, I I I.

776
00:55:30.199 --> 00:55:35.679
Would you know what I experienced some things there in Oakridge,

777
00:55:36.559 --> 00:55:41.280
but it was when I had I don't I don't

778
00:55:41.280 --> 00:55:44.000
know if it was actually legit, because to tell you

779
00:55:44.039 --> 00:55:46.639
the truth, I had a kind of a high fever

780
00:55:46.800 --> 00:55:51.719
because of that those leg infections that one night, and

781
00:55:52.440 --> 00:55:56.519
I would love to have like something else happened when

782
00:55:56.719 --> 00:55:59.800
physically I don't have any weird stuff going on like

783
00:55:59.840 --> 00:56:02.880
a fever, you know what I mean, Like, I don't know, yeah,

784
00:56:04.119 --> 00:56:08.119
but it was just it's such such a weird, weird thing.

785
00:56:10.719 --> 00:56:13.480
But I think what it comes down to is the

786
00:56:13.519 --> 00:56:21.239
importance of keeping pure intentions like you are, because I

787
00:56:21.280 --> 00:56:24.920
think that that makes a difference if if people start

788
00:56:24.960 --> 00:56:28.440
getting into you know, let's do this for fame, or

789
00:56:28.519 --> 00:56:32.320
let's do this to make money or you know, be

790
00:56:32.519 --> 00:56:38.880
the next Patterson Gimmlin film, usually those people they're not

791
00:56:39.039 --> 00:56:43.199
going to have these incredible experiences because I think it

792
00:56:43.239 --> 00:56:45.840
all comes down to what the intentions are of the

793
00:56:45.880 --> 00:56:50.039
person that is involved, you know. And I think you're

794
00:56:50.039 --> 00:56:52.119
on the right track though, Tim, you definitely are.

795
00:56:55.199 --> 00:56:55.639
Thank you.

796
00:56:55.920 --> 00:57:01.920
I am super grateful. It's I just have to mention this.

797
00:57:02.159 --> 00:57:04.320
I'm at a park in Seattle right now, and two

798
00:57:04.400 --> 00:57:06.039
coyotes just passed by.

799
00:57:06.039 --> 00:57:09.639
While we were talking. I'm looking at them right now.

800
00:57:09.719 --> 00:57:13.199
There's two wild coyotes and I'm at Discovery Park, which is,

801
00:57:13.880 --> 00:57:17.360
you know, about as far away from the wilderness as

802
00:57:17.400 --> 00:57:18.679
you can get in Seattle.

803
00:57:19.239 --> 00:57:25.079
So that was really cool. But yeah, you know, I

804
00:57:25.119 --> 00:57:27.159
think keep.

805
00:57:26.960 --> 00:57:32.079
Your intentions pure, keep ego out of it, stay astonished,

806
00:57:32.079 --> 00:57:38.480
and be kind, That's what I recommend. And stay open minded.

807
00:57:38.639 --> 00:57:44.039
I mean, god, stay open minded, because I wasn't for

808
00:57:44.039 --> 00:57:47.159
forty years in my life, forty years of being in

809
00:57:47.199 --> 00:57:47.800
the woods and.

810
00:57:49.280 --> 00:57:53.000
Ignoring what's around me, you know, being.

811
00:57:55.639 --> 00:57:59.599
Just very dismissive of what was probably really clear evidence.

812
00:58:00.719 --> 00:58:04.800
So everyone, keep your keep your mind open, keep your

813
00:58:04.800 --> 00:58:06.239
heart pewer, and.

814
00:58:08.280 --> 00:58:09.679
Yeah, this is this.

815
00:58:09.559 --> 00:58:13.440
Is an adventure absolutely, And Tim, I'm glad you reached

816
00:58:13.440 --> 00:58:15.559
out again. Actually, I mean it was a while that

817
00:58:15.599 --> 00:58:17.719
you reached out, but I'm glad it took this long

818
00:58:18.119 --> 00:58:22.719
because yeah, there's some really cool stuff that just happened recently,

819
00:58:22.719 --> 00:58:24.559
and I guess it was for a reason that it

820
00:58:24.599 --> 00:58:28.079
took so long for us to get together because of

821
00:58:28.079 --> 00:58:31.679
the scheduling. But yeah, now this this is great and

822
00:58:32.079 --> 00:58:35.199
definitely keep us in the loop with what happens in

823
00:58:35.239 --> 00:58:38.679
the future, maybe going out with rich And I mean,

824
00:58:38.760 --> 00:58:41.119
I wish you the I wish you the best with

825
00:58:41.960 --> 00:58:44.039
you know, future things you experience, and I hope that

826
00:58:44.079 --> 00:58:46.960
someday you do get that you know, second sighting. I

827
00:58:46.960 --> 00:58:47.960
think you will so.

828
00:58:49.719 --> 00:58:53.800
Cool. All right, Well, yeah, thanks so much again.

829
00:58:54.039 --> 00:58:57.079
I love I listened to every single one of your

830
00:58:58.360 --> 00:59:02.800
of your shows and podcasts and just thank you for

831
00:59:03.800 --> 00:59:06.840
all that you do and thanks for having me having

832
00:59:06.880 --> 00:59:07.800
me as a guest again.

833
00:59:08.039 --> 00:59:09.039
I really appreciate it.

834
00:59:09.079 --> 00:59:12.519
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835
00:59:12.960 --> 00:59:31.400
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