July 30, 2025

The Woods War | Massachusetts

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Season 1

What happens when two friends head out for a peaceful night of fishing — and end up being bombarded by rocks from something they can’t see... again and again? In this gripping and brutal episode, we sit down with Jordan, an Army veteran from the southeastern corner of Massachusetts, who shares a series of increasingly violent encounters with something in the woods of Plymouth. From eerie silence to mimicked rooster calls and glowing red eyes in the night, Jordan and his friend are hunted, tracked, and taunted across multiple ponds — even chased down dark roads and followed home. Locations include Halfway Pond, Myles Standish State Forest, and remote areas surrounding Plymouth. This is more than just a Bigfoot sighting — it’s a multi-night, escalating war in the woods. Prepare for impact.

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You're listening to Big for Society and I'm Jeremiah Byron.

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Today's episode is a conversation with Jordan from the southeast

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corner of Massachusetts. This is an extremely interesting conversation that

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as it goes along becomes quite evident someone does not

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want it to happen. So please enjoy this conversation about

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what exactly is going on in the Plymouth area of Massachusetts.

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And thanks for listening all I pick the Society. You've

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got the privilege of talking to Jordan today. Jordan's an

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individual from the Plymouth mass area or Massachusetts. It's also

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an Army veteran as well. Jordan, welcome to the show.

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Thank you for your service and how are you doing today, sir, Oh, no.

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Problem, and I'm doing great and got out of work early.

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I planned for this and I can't wait to talk

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to you for a bit.

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It's very very rare to have individuals from Massachusetts in

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New England on the show. As I grew up in

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western mass so I know it is a very tight

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lipped state when it comes to things like this. But

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you know, Jordan, I want to make sure that you

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have the time to share what you've come prepared to

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share today, so feel free to take the floor is yours,

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and you're welcome to take us back to when things

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started happening to you.

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All right.

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Well, I worked at a trucking company a few years ago,

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over five years ago, and one of the forklift operators

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I started hanging out with. He's older than me, he's

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like fifty five now, and we had a big, what

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do you call it hobby together, fishing. So we started

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talking about it and stuff, and he had a little,

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you know, a bass buggy boat something that just slides

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into the back of a pickup truck with the slow seats.

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And we hadn't talked for a while, we hadn't hung

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out and stuff, and eventually just started fishing. And it

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wasn't until after I started my other job. So he goes, hey,

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have you ever fished down in Plymouth area? I said no,

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not really. I said, I you know, usually go to

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other ponds and stuff, you know, walking distance stuff. I'd

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usually fish from shore there. He goes, well, you can

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go with me, and he said all right. So we

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go out to the pond and I don't know if

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I should mention where the pond.

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Is or not, but.

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It's I'd never been there.

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It was in Plymouth. It was a really long dirt

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road to get down there.

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And if you go down the dirt road comes to

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a fork. If you go left, there's you know, maybe

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ten houses on that side.

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Of the lake.

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The right side of the lake, there's only two mansions

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down the very very very end, like another mile down,

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so it's very secluded. So he goes, okay, well we'll

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go there and I'll pick you up at three in

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the morning and we'll get down there. You know, we'll

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get set up and we should be fishing, you know,

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by four o'clock. And this was in August of twenty three,

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so you know, he told me there's a lot of

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small mouths in there, and you know there's big fish,

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and it should be great time, clean.

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Water, blah blah blah. So he picks me up in.

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His try out of the truck he's got the boat

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in there, and go down the dirt road and it's

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a one lane road around this pond, so you got

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to offload the boat and then you got to go

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park it. And there's a couple of little tiny parking

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spots cut out in the woods.

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So it's dark it's pitch black. I got a headlamp on.

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He parks the truck, get the boat out and pull

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it on the ground, and he's like, I gotta go

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park the truck.

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I said, all right. So he pulls away.

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I watch him dry and he's probably one hundred feet

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away from me, and I can see the truck and

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he pulls it in one of the spots and I'm

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just standing there listening to the bugs, crickets, frogs, and

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I'm just looking in the water. The water's perfect, it's

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crystal clear. And a rock flew by my face, like

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probably exercise of a golf ball, and I'm like, that

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was weird, And you know, I don't know what to think.

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So he's walking back towards me and he's got his

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hands in his park. He parks the truck. I see

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the brake lights go off. I see everything go off.

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He's coming towards me. He's got his head lamp on

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and he's got his hands in his pockets. And I said,

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did you throw a rock? Like I don't know why,

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Like I shouldn't asked him that because how could he?

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But I'm like, did you throw a rock?

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He's like, what are you talking about I said, you

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threw a rock at me or something. He goes, dude, whatever, no,

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And another.

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One flew right in front of my face.

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So I shine in my light around and to my

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left is the pond, and to my right is just

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straight blueberry bushes, briers, just.

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Swamped like with treat you can't see through it.

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So he's like, dude, what was that? I said, he

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saw the second one? I said, I don't know, dude.

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He's like, well, let's get out of here. So we

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get in the boat. And as we're going out, you know,

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he's only got a little troller motor on electric motive.

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The rocks are coming NonStop, and they're as we're moving.

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They're falling all around the bow of the boat.

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They never touched the boat, and the boat is a

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square boat.

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It's like a Pelican gator or something like that, and

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all these rocks are just going around the front of

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the boat. As we're moving. I'm getting wet. These rocks

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are hitting the water. I'm getting wet. We finally get

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out fire enough and it stops, and I'm like, what

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was that.

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He's I don't no.

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So all then this weird rooster sound started.

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It didn't.

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It sounded like somebody in a deep voice mimicking a rooster,

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and it didn't sound.

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Right at all.

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And I had a five thousand loomin flashlight in my

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tackle bag, so I pull it out and I'm shining

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on the shore and there's nothing there at all, nothing,

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And as we're fishing and it's getting daylight out, there's

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no more rocks the rest of that day. But the

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rooster call sound sounded like it would be one hundred

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feet from shore and then a mile away, and then

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a hundred feet from shore, then a mile away, and

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it did it all the way until the sun started

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breaking through really and we fished the rest of the

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day and it got really hot, and there was we

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didn't actually I don't think. I don't even remember catching anything.

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And we get back to the truck we loaded the boat,

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and I'm like, what's up with those rocks. He's like,

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I don't know, dude, it's probably just some hobo or

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some you know, somebody around here. Maybe it's one of

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the people that live in the house. They don't want

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us around here.

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And then we'd let it go.

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So a week or two goes by and it is

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still August of twenty three. We uh, he calls me up.

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He goes, yeah, you want to go down there. I said, yeah, yeah,

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I'll go down there. And you know, I'm not worried

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about the it's not my truck going down there. If

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you get rocks hitting your truck, I don't here, you know.

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So we go back down there, and there was a

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big storm coming and we shouldn't have went, but we

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did anyway, And we go out there and we got there.

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This time it was in the afternoon. So we got

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there probably around four or five in the afternoon, and

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we go out, we fish, catch a couple of fish,

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nothing great, whatever. The sky goes black like black black,

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like the the lightning the rain. We're trying to get

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back across the pond, and the boat's actually like like

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the boat actually had like two inches of water in

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it by the time we got back in.

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I mean, we shouldn't have, but that was stupid. So

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you get in.

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Now we're rushing. We're rushing to get the boat in

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the truck to strap it down, and as we're doing it,

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rocks are flying in again. And it always waits like

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you got like five five minutes, ten minutes of you know,

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before they start doing whatever this is, that's it has

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to be them.

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But so rocks start coming in.

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It's torrential downpour, it's nine o'clock at night, it's pitch black,

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and somebody's throwing rocks at us again. And they never

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hit us, not once. These rocks never touch your body,

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but they're big enough some of them where if they

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hit you, some of them are size of potatoes, they

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knock your head right off. So that was the second time,

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and still we left and you know, we're talking about

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on the way home, and we're like, dude, it's.

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Got to be a hobo.

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It's got to be like some homeless guy that's got

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a tent back there and he doesn't want us there

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and he's annoyed, and you know, that's it. That's all

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we could come up with. So I wasn't scared. I

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didn't have a feeling. I didn't have a reason to

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be nervous. I didn't have a you know, nothing like that.

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So maybe again two one, two weeks later we go

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back and now it's again it's four or five in

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the afternoon, So we get down there, and that year,

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every time we went, these three times, there was nobody

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ever down there except for this one guy. So this

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old timer shows up and he's like, oh, you boys

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are gonna go fishing. Yeah, yeah, oh I've been fishing

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this pond thirty years. And this guy's like giving us,

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you know, senkos and certain which is a rubble worm.

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He's giving us different stuff, and he's like, yeah, go

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over here in that corner. That's where these type of

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fish hang out, and go over there, and and these

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long winded and he kept going and dance, getting impatient.

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He's like, hey, we got to go. I said, all right.

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I said, well, nice talk to you, sir. He's like, oh,

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they had no problem. And something just gave me the

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inkling to ask him if he's ever seen or heard

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anything weird. So I said, hey, can't see something and

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he's like yeah, I said, did you ever hear see

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anything out here when you're fishing? He was like, no,

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not that I can think of, I said, And he goes, oh, well, yeah,

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there's a weird rooster noise sometimes when I'm down here.

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Early in the morning.

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And I was like, oh, okay, noted.

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So he's like, all right, good luck, have fun.

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Yeah, okay, well get out there. We're fishing the beautiful night,

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no clouds or nothing.

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We stayed till.

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Ten this time. And Dan knows that I watch these

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these podcasts. I watch you, I watch Wes, and that's

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actually it. I used to watch some other ones, but

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I don't agree with the way it's what they're doing anymore.

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So I stopped it. But he makes fun of me.

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So he's like, what do those bigfoot do again?

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I said, what do you mean? He's like, what do

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they whoop or something? I'm like, yeah.

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So we're just about to come in and he's making

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these whoop sounds and he's laughing, and I'm like, yeah, yeah, whatever,

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And it's actually embarrassing because he's doing it loud and

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I know people can hear, and I'm like, dude.

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Just knock it off. Oh yeah, okay.

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So get back to the truck and it's it's still

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a little bit daylight, but barely. I mean I think

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the sun goes down at the time, you know, like

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eight eight thirty, so it's still a little light. And

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we're putting the truck away. I'm in the boat away.

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And I'm waiting for it.

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I'm just waiting for it. I'm like this it's got

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to be third times charm.

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Something's gonna happen.

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And Dan is cheap, and he has these old ratchet

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straps that are all jammed up and rusty, and even

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though he's a brand new Toyleter truck, apparently came by

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new ratchet straps. So he's screwing around with these ratchet

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straps trying to get the boat down. And I'm just

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panning around with the flashlight and a rock flies out

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of the woods and lands by my feet. Right it

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hits a bush lands by my feet. And I told him,

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I said, Dan, it's doing it again. He goes, no,

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it's not shut up, You're not scaring me.

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This is dumb.

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I said, no, it's doing it again. And it just

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started doing it a lot. Like there's a lot of

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rocks coming. I mean, it through at least twenty something rocks.

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He's getting pissed and he's like, dude, it's just a

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whole ball. You need to calm down. I'm freaking out.

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I'm like, dude, I'm done. I don't want to be here.

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I don't like this. This is it's stating the kind

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to kick in that this is not just a person.

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But I still can't fully accept it. So he's like,

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you know what, I'll teach you to freaking lesson whatever

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it is. And he grabs a pile of rocks and

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he starts whipping them into the woods where these rocks

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are coming out. Every time he threw a rock, one

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would be passing it coming out like it knew he

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was throwing. It was matching him perfectly. It was like

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his rock was it's not actually happening like that, but

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it was like his rock was.

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Bouncing off an invisible force field. That's how perfect it was.

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It was just he'd throwing foot it was already passing.

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And he's like, what was that, I said, dude, I

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told you. I'm like, I'm done.

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A huge rock, bigger than.

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A potato comes out of the woods and lands dead

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nuts center in the middle of the boat. And the

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weird thing is it didn't roll around, it didn't move.

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It was weird. It just hit the boat and that

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was it. It just stuck in the middle of the boat

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like it was a magnet or something. And he's like, dude,

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I'm done. I said, dude, I don't I'm done.

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I jumped in the.

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Truck first and I locked the door and a rock,

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you know, like the size of the marble hit the

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roof and rolled down and I'm watching it and it's

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set right on the wiper. So he gets in and

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he's like, I'm not finished unratching the boat. I said, dude,

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just screw it.

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The boat's mostly in there. Just get out of here.

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We'll go up the road a mile or.

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Two and we'll get out and we'll check them and

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sure we have anything before we leave. So he's flying

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up the road. We're doing like thirty and this is

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like a you know, a narrow dirt road like you're doing.

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It's pretty fast.

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We go up about a mile a mile and a

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half and we get out and he's a grab the flashlight,

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all right, So we're checking anything. The second I opened

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my door a rock being right off the tree behind me,

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and we just drove more than a mile doing thirty.

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I'm like, do you still think it's a person? Now?

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I don't know who it is.

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I said, well, hell, did this person catch up to

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us if we just drove a mile at thirty miles

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an hour and they're already throwing rocks at us.

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Again, He's like, whatever, dude, you keep imagining crap.

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Keep watching the stupid Bigfoot crap or whatever you watch. Yeah,

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I'm done with this whatever. So that was the last

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time of August twenty twenty three. So the whole year

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goes by nour In last year, he goes, hey, you

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want to go to Halfway Pond? I just gave it away,

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But all right there.

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It is Halfway Pawn.

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So I go, you know what, Yeah, I'll go screw it.

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What's the odds of the stuff happening again? So we

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get down there. This time there's a bunch of people.

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We could barely find parking. There's people on jet skis

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and we went early in the day. There's people swimming.

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Find a parking spot. It's in a different area than

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we usually park. And we get the boating and we're

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just fishing. Sure enough, ten o'clock comes, it's pitch black

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coming in and this time the truck was right near

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the water.

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He didn't have to go get the truck. Truck was

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right there. He backs the truck and this is a

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brand new Oh it's not brand new anymore. I was

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a leftover.

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It was a twenty twenty three Tacoma. So he backs

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the truck down and I'm waiting again. I'm like, it

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was a whole year ago. I'm like, you know, I'm

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gonna you know, I got my flashlight handing around and

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a rock comes flying out of the woods again. And

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mind you, this is the first time I noticed that

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everything is dead, perfectly quiet. There's not a sound. The

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only sound that I heard was a whipperwill.

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That was it.

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And when I look back on all the other times

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there wasn't.

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I remember.

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I'm like, there was no sound, there's no crickets, there's

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no frogs, there's no anything. So a rock comes in

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and he's like what I try to tell him and

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he goes, well, what I had heard something? I said, yeah,

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it's rocks, and a rock beams right off the roof

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of the truck, brand new truck, and it's kind of

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made like a sound like of a like if you

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stepped on like a an empty beer can or something.

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And he's like, dude, dude, that just.

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Hit my truck. I said, yeah, right on your roof.

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Now he's mad and I just want to go. And

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as I'm holding my flashlight, it gets so hot in

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my hand that I can't physically hold it anymore, and

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it goes out this and this is a brand new

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I mean, that's not the same flashlight I had before.

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This is a better, newer one. And it gets hot

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in my hand. I can't hold it. I turn it off.

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I'm done.

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I get in the truck. He's done with the boat.

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He gets in.

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I'm like, dude, just go go because these rocks were

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bigger than the last time. He's like, dude, calm down,

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calm down. And I'm like, no, no, go. And it's

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hot out. So he's sitting there and he's playing with

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the AC and he's turning the radio on whatever station,

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and he wants I'm like, dude, you gotta.

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Go, just go.

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Do you want I'm screaming at him. Actually, at this point,

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I do you like dents in your brand new truck?

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Because this is what's gonna happen.

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Don't stop it. You being a baby. It ain't nothing.

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I said, okay, whatever, dude, and I'm antsy.

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I just want to leave.

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He's like, okay, calm down, calm down. He puts his

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foot on the brake and he puts it in drive

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and when he looks, he looks over it in the

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driver's mirror and just starts losing his mind, losing his mind,

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and I'm like, he's screaming, don't look back.

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Whatever you do, don't look back.

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I don't have a flashlight anymore.

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It's done.

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And all I had was a little pocket, you know,

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little cheap led flashlight. I'm climbing, he's stuffing it. I'm

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climbing in the back seat and I opened the slider

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and I'm trying to shine. I can't see anything. He's

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just flying and I'm like, I keep I get back

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in my seat.

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I'm like, what did you see? What did you see? Nothing?

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And he's flying. I'm like, what did you see? He's like, dude,

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I don't know. I don't know, I don't know what

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it was. We get all the way to the main

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road and he stops and we're just sitting now where

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I think there's a street light there and stuff, and

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you're back and you know, on the main road. This

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guy's going by. I said, what did you see? He goes, Dude,

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all I know was big, it's I reflect and red

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and I've just seen it walk right behind the truck.

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And I said, okay, so that's what it was. He goes, No,

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I'm never going to admit that that's not what it was.

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You don't know what it was.

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I said, dude, what was it?

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Then?

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I don't know, But I don't want to talk about

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it anymore. I said, okay, you don't want to talk Nope,

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I don't want to talk about it. And this is

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a guy I don't go hunting. I fish. He goes

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up in tree stands at four in the morning. He's

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up there for daylight, climbs up there, never had a problem,

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doesn't want to deal with this stuff. He doesn't want

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to think about it, doesn't want.

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To care about it.

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Just very nonsense, even though he saw the thing and

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I didn't.

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So that was last year.

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So that was the last time I went to Halfway Pond,

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and that will be the last time I will go there.

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So a week or two goes by calls me up.

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You want to go fishing? I said, yeah, yep, you

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want to go to Halfway? No? Why?

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He goes, yeah, that is kind of weird.

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I don't want any more do I said, okay, well

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'screw that let's go somewhere else. He said, well, let's

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fish in one of the ponds and miles standards. I said, okay,

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it's like I think it's like as the crow flies

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maybe six seven miles maybe away five miles away from

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where we were. And I'm like, well, at this point,

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I still discredit. I'm still trying to grasp reality of

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whatever this is.

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So I'm like, okay, maybe there's still just kids.

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And then you add up how of a insane aim

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this thing has and the quietness and when you shine

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the light there's nothing there, and then what he saw,

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and I'm in my mind, I'm like, as long as

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I'm not going back to that place, I don't care.

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So I'll go try another pond. So we go to

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one of the ponds in Mount Standards State Park and

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there's nobody around, and we get the boat, put it in.

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He had to move the truck, you know, get to

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pack another one hundred feet away. There's nothing, you know,

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there's no direct access. So we go out and we're

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fishing and there's a perfect night and there's nothing wrong.

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And we're out there at about ten o'clock at night

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and we're coming back in and we got to drag

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the boat up this uh, you know, a gra gravel

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like drainage ditch thing and actually the rocks are pretty big,

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so you're fumbling all over the place climb up this thing.

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He has to go get the truck packet on the

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wrong side of the road face, you know, facing the

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wrong way.

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To get it to where we can just get the boat.

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And there's nobody out there. Ten o'clock at night, so

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you know, I got this new flashlight that I had

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and I'm shining around the one that didn't work before

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that got hot.

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And there's no really like low low underbrush.

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Everything's kind of just scrub pines, so you can see

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pretty good. So I'm just, you know, just because I'm like,

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I'm just gonna look around and seeing he's already helped

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them put the boat in and he's strapping it down again,

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and a rock comes skidding down the road and you

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can hear it's coming kinking, kink, kink, and it's you know,

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half the size of a baseball. And I'm like, dude's

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doing it again. And he says, laughing, no, it's not

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your screw. I said, no, here it is again, And

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then a rock comes skipping up the road from the

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other way, and then they just started going like crazy

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and they are going right over the truck right over

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our heads, not touching us. And I'm getting aggravated now

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because now this is the fifth time. And I just

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said out loud, I don't know who you are, what

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you are, but can you please stop. We're just fishing,

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we're leaving. We don't want any trouble.

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Please stop.

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And everything stopped. And I looked at him and I'm like,

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what do you think this is? He's like, I don't know.

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So I waited about thirty seconds and he had a

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forty five on him. So I said, it's this is kids.

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Maybe we'll scam him if I say this out loud.

464
00:23:41.240 --> 00:23:44.279
So I said, uh, hey Dan, he.

465
00:23:44.319 --> 00:23:47.960
Said yeah, still screwing with the boat. I said, uh,

466
00:23:48.359 --> 00:23:50.200
good thing. You got your gun on you right, and

467
00:23:50.240 --> 00:23:54.960
he went yep. The second he said, yep, a rock

468
00:23:55.039 --> 00:23:59.839
the size of a baseball pile drives this no pocketing sign.

469
00:24:00.759 --> 00:24:04.559
That was literally, you know, maybe two feet over to

470
00:24:04.680 --> 00:24:09.119
his right and maybe about three or four feet back.

471
00:24:09.680 --> 00:24:15.359
It sounded like a gunshot. So he's right, I'm done.

472
00:24:15.480 --> 00:24:19.000
I'm out. I'm out. So he just finished half. We

473
00:24:19.119 --> 00:24:19.559
get in the.

474
00:24:19.480 --> 00:24:22.880
Truck and we're flying out of there, and I said,

475
00:24:22.920 --> 00:24:24.480
you know what, dude, I'm sick. Of this, I said,

476
00:24:24.680 --> 00:24:27.440
turn around. There's one turn around.

477
00:24:33.039 --> 00:24:40.319
Jordan, are you there? Oh my goodness, I'm going to

478
00:24:40.400 --> 00:24:41.920
call that. I'm going to call it chort and back

479
00:24:42.000 --> 00:24:42.400
right now.

480
00:24:47.079 --> 00:24:50.200
Your call has been forwarded to an automatic voice message

481
00:24:50.240 --> 00:24:53.279
system seven seven four four one.

482
00:24:54.279 --> 00:24:56.599
All right, this is this is a second call today

483
00:24:56.680 --> 00:25:05.680
where we have gotten we've gotten disconnected. I really hope

484
00:25:05.720 --> 00:25:07.359
I can call this guy back.

485
00:25:15.839 --> 00:25:19.759
Your call has been forwarded to an automatic voice message system.

486
00:25:19.799 --> 00:25:23.440
Seven seven four is not available at this time at

487
00:25:23.480 --> 00:25:26.680
the tone. Please record your message. When you have finished recording,

488
00:25:26.799 --> 00:25:29.519
you may hang out or press one for more options.

489
00:25:30.480 --> 00:25:34.519
Hey, Jordan, this Dermia calling you back. We got disconnected

490
00:25:34.880 --> 00:25:37.240
or somehow. It's just like the phone went click on

491
00:25:37.279 --> 00:26:00.279
your side. I'm going to try the other number.

492
00:26:15.720 --> 00:26:17.079
Please leave your message for.

493
00:26:19.839 --> 00:26:22.759
Well. I just tried both of Jordan's phone numbers. It

494
00:26:22.920 --> 00:26:26.920
is very evident that someone does not want these calls

495
00:26:26.960 --> 00:26:38.119
to happen. Wow, okay, I'm just gonna have to see

496
00:26:38.160 --> 00:26:39.160
if he calls back.

497
00:26:42.079 --> 00:26:42.759
Let me test him.

498
00:26:42.759 --> 00:26:46.680
Here here we go, all right, we're gonna give us

499
00:26:46.680 --> 00:26:51.559
some time. Yeah, well, this is really weird, guys, it's

500
00:26:51.680 --> 00:26:52.960
very very weird.

501
00:26:53.839 --> 00:26:56.680
And when I finished the story, I said basically like

502
00:26:56.799 --> 00:26:59.079
queuing you to be like, oh wow, Jordan, Well and

503
00:26:59.119 --> 00:27:01.519
I'm like waiting. I looked down on the phone and

504
00:27:01.519 --> 00:27:05.119
it was still going, like the call never ended.

505
00:27:06.319 --> 00:27:12.039
Okay, I've got the recording going on. I'm bringing up

506
00:27:12.440 --> 00:27:17.720
the map of Plymouth again. Uh So we were at

507
00:27:17.799 --> 00:27:22.160
see you were at the the other pond and Miles

508
00:27:22.160 --> 00:27:29.519
standish and then there had been like a rock your buddy.

509
00:27:29.559 --> 00:27:31.519
You were like, hey, you have your gun right and

510
00:27:31.559 --> 00:27:34.599
then and he was like yep, and then this huge

511
00:27:34.680 --> 00:27:41.119
rock hit the sign and then yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

512
00:27:41.200 --> 00:27:43.359
Oh so you didn't hear anything about the cloud with

513
00:27:43.480 --> 00:27:47.359
the tail on it, with the smoke or anything. No, no, no, no, okay,

514
00:27:49.160 --> 00:27:51.960
oh man, this is weird. So is this one of

515
00:27:51.960 --> 00:27:53.839
those things where they're listening and then they cut the

516
00:27:53.880 --> 00:27:54.359
phone call.

517
00:27:54.880 --> 00:27:57.160
I don't know, dude, but it happens a lot to me.

518
00:27:57.799 --> 00:27:58.680
I'm not even kidding.

519
00:27:58.880 --> 00:28:02.279
Well, this is what I That's the thing that fascinates

520
00:28:02.319 --> 00:28:05.240
me more about Sasquatch than Sasquatch is why are they

521
00:28:05.279 --> 00:28:06.799
trying to hide it? And what else do they have

522
00:28:06.880 --> 00:28:10.480
to hide? That's what That's what confuses me. That's the intrigue.

523
00:28:10.640 --> 00:28:13.839
And just like what's his name there? From How to Hunt?

524
00:28:13.839 --> 00:28:16.759
He says, if you if they admitted these things are real,

525
00:28:16.839 --> 00:28:18.519
then they'd have to admit all the other crap that

526
00:28:18.559 --> 00:28:20.039
they're for tending eight reel is real.

527
00:28:21.240 --> 00:28:21.440
Yeah.

528
00:28:21.440 --> 00:28:25.160
Absolutely, So anyway, that's what makes me mad. It actually

529
00:28:25.240 --> 00:28:28.319
aggravates me because it's like saying, why you hide? Like,

530
00:28:28.319 --> 00:28:29.160
what do you got to hide?

531
00:28:29.240 --> 00:28:29.960
Dude?

532
00:28:31.599 --> 00:28:34.759
Anyway, So hopefully I don't cut the soul phone. Okay,

533
00:28:36.079 --> 00:28:38.480
I will keep checking if you don't mind, every five

534
00:28:38.480 --> 00:28:40.000
minutes on this ask if you're still there.

535
00:28:40.039 --> 00:28:41.960
Yeah, that's that's good. That's good for me. Yep.

536
00:28:43.000 --> 00:28:46.960
Okay. So they threw a rock at the sign, and

537
00:28:49.200 --> 00:28:51.000
I mean it sounded like a gunshot and it was

538
00:28:51.200 --> 00:28:55.160
right when I said, do you have your gun? Dan?

539
00:28:56.319 --> 00:29:01.000
So whatever it is knows what English is somehow, or

540
00:29:01.039 --> 00:29:04.839
they can read your mind. I don't know. So we

541
00:29:05.599 --> 00:29:08.480
leave and I say, no, turn around. I want to

542
00:29:08.480 --> 00:29:12.480
see this thing walk out. I've had it. So he goes,

543
00:29:12.519 --> 00:29:17.319
are you're sure? I said, yeah, turn around. So we

544
00:29:17.359 --> 00:29:21.359
turn around. We go back down a mile, standish down

545
00:29:21.440 --> 00:29:25.160
that road and nothing happened. So he said, dude, I

546
00:29:25.200 --> 00:29:26.319
got to get out and pee. Dude, you got to

547
00:29:26.359 --> 00:29:29.240
come me. So I get out and I'm shining this flashlight.

548
00:29:30.440 --> 00:29:33.000
Nothing happens. Let's get back from the truck, and now

549
00:29:33.000 --> 00:29:35.240
we're just we're now we're heading back towards my house.

550
00:29:35.240 --> 00:29:37.759
We're heading the right way, and a rock beams off

551
00:29:37.759 --> 00:29:42.039
the truck. So he's pissed. It's a brand new truck.

552
00:29:42.160 --> 00:29:44.079
I think you paid like forty five grand for this thing.

553
00:29:45.720 --> 00:29:49.160
He goes, give me the flashlight. He gets out and

554
00:29:49.200 --> 00:29:52.720
stands on the door. Still the door is still. He

555
00:29:52.839 --> 00:29:55.440
shines the light. He climbs up and shine the light

556
00:29:55.640 --> 00:30:01.240
over the truck and a rock lane directly in the

557
00:30:01.279 --> 00:30:06.759
boat in the back of the truck. You're still there, yes, okay,

558
00:30:07.200 --> 00:30:11.400
So he freaks out. He's like, dude, we gotta get

559
00:30:11.400 --> 00:30:13.400
out of here. I'm done. I don't want any this

560
00:30:13.440 --> 00:30:15.680
thing already. Actually, then, like one of the rock that

561
00:30:15.799 --> 00:30:18.839
last time we were at the other pond, the rock

562
00:30:18.920 --> 00:30:21.079
skimmed the roof of the truck. That's what that sound was,

563
00:30:21.279 --> 00:30:23.839
and it actually left it took paint off. And if

564
00:30:23.920 --> 00:30:25.440
I go, like I looked at it the other day

565
00:30:25.440 --> 00:30:28.160
when he came over, it's rusting like it took the

566
00:30:28.200 --> 00:30:31.240
paint off. So we get out of there. I said,

567
00:30:31.319 --> 00:30:33.799
I'm never going back here again. I'm done. I'm not

568
00:30:34.279 --> 00:30:36.240
I'll go drive through here, I'll come in here during

569
00:30:36.240 --> 00:30:40.440
the day. I'm not fishing here. So a few weeks

570
00:30:40.480 --> 00:30:45.000
go by, he goes, do you want to go fishing?

571
00:30:45.119 --> 00:30:47.440
I said, yeah, I go Where do you want to go?

572
00:30:47.599 --> 00:30:49.240
I said, why don't we go down near a giant

573
00:30:49.279 --> 00:30:53.400
reservoir And there's a bunch of fire roads And I

574
00:30:53.559 --> 00:30:57.799
fished there my whole life. Never had a problem. And

575
00:30:57.920 --> 00:30:59.960
you got to walk in like a mile to get

576
00:31:00.119 --> 00:31:02.839
to this place. But it's nice because nobody else wants

577
00:31:02.920 --> 00:31:04.680
to the fishermen. You want to get in a boat

578
00:31:04.680 --> 00:31:07.240
and go, or they want to get out and fish

579
00:31:07.279 --> 00:31:13.960
off of a causeway or something. So we we meet

580
00:31:14.079 --> 00:31:16.279
a church parking lot that's got a fire road going

581
00:31:16.480 --> 00:31:18.319
off the back of it. It's right down the street.

582
00:31:18.440 --> 00:31:23.400
So we walk in. We're doing great, and a lot

583
00:31:23.440 --> 00:31:25.519
of big fish. We caught, you know, five six pounds.

584
00:31:25.759 --> 00:31:27.839
It was really nice. Straight in the fall, they're all

585
00:31:27.839 --> 00:31:31.920
fattening up, falling and they were hitting everything. And now

586
00:31:31.960 --> 00:31:34.880
it's you know, we got there it maybe five and

587
00:31:34.920 --> 00:31:37.279
by the time we walked out there, now it's about

588
00:31:37.319 --> 00:31:39.640
seven thirty and standing it back, and he goes, I

589
00:31:39.640 --> 00:31:43.480
think it's time to go. I said, all right, so

590
00:31:43.960 --> 00:31:46.279
let's make a couple more casts. Okay with that. And

591
00:31:46.279 --> 00:31:50.039
now there's a big rock where we're at, and the

592
00:31:50.119 --> 00:31:53.000
shoreline where we're fishing. It was such a dry summer

593
00:31:53.799 --> 00:31:58.759
that the shoreline, you know, normally you'd be in two

594
00:31:58.880 --> 00:32:01.200
three feet of water walking on it. And there's a

595
00:32:01.319 --> 00:32:03.400
rock the size of like two or three pickup trucks

596
00:32:03.680 --> 00:32:06.960
right on this peninsula, right on this point. So we

597
00:32:07.039 --> 00:32:11.160
climb up on the rock and we're fishing a rock.

598
00:32:11.359 --> 00:32:16.119
The rocks just start coming in, and I freaked out

599
00:32:16.160 --> 00:32:21.000
so bad that I just got down on my knees

600
00:32:21.000 --> 00:32:24.279
and started praying the Lord's Prayer. I don't know what's happened.

601
00:32:24.480 --> 00:32:26.920
I don't know. I just wanted to go away. And

602
00:32:26.920 --> 00:32:28.480
now we're in the middle of no like we're a

603
00:32:28.519 --> 00:32:31.599
mile in the woods. He doesn't have his gun on him,

604
00:32:31.960 --> 00:32:34.920
that there's nothing we can do, and the rocks just

605
00:32:34.960 --> 00:32:36.680
keep coming. So I get down, I stop praying, and

606
00:32:36.720 --> 00:32:39.039
the name of Jesus leave us alone. As corny as

607
00:32:39.079 --> 00:32:41.200
that does sounds to some people, that's what I believe.

608
00:32:42.160 --> 00:32:47.400
And it stopped and I looked at him, I go,

609
00:32:47.440 --> 00:32:49.880
what are we gonna do? He's like, dude, grab you

610
00:32:49.880 --> 00:32:52.680
you know what, you know, gotta be a man, got

611
00:32:52.680 --> 00:32:55.359
to walk out of here. I'm like, okay, Like what

612
00:32:55.400 --> 00:33:00.200
are we gonna do? What are you gonna do? So we, uh,

613
00:33:01.519 --> 00:33:04.400
we start walking and you gotta walk, you know, about

614
00:33:04.400 --> 00:33:06.799
one hundred feet to get back into the woods because

615
00:33:06.880 --> 00:33:10.480
there's cliffs, you know, you got you know, twelve fourteen

616
00:33:10.559 --> 00:33:13.519
fifteen foot cliffs up that's where all the stuff was

617
00:33:13.559 --> 00:33:17.039
coming down at us. As we're walking back to the path,

618
00:33:17.759 --> 00:33:21.359
a log, you know, about eight inches in diameter and

619
00:33:21.400 --> 00:33:24.720
maybe six seven feet long comes flying down off the

620
00:33:24.759 --> 00:33:26.799
top of the hill and just lands right on the beach,

621
00:33:26.920 --> 00:33:29.599
the rocks right in front of us. I shine the

622
00:33:29.680 --> 00:33:34.240
light back up there. There's nothing there, nothing. I am

623
00:33:34.400 --> 00:33:37.759
like done. I am hysterical. We start running out of there,

624
00:33:38.319 --> 00:33:42.480
and there's rocks bouncing off of the trees, there's branches breaking.

625
00:33:44.200 --> 00:33:47.000
We're getting pushed out. I get to the point where

626
00:33:47.000 --> 00:33:48.960
I can't run anymore. I got a big tackle bag,

627
00:33:49.039 --> 00:33:52.440
I got my rods. He's older than me, he's dying.

628
00:33:53.119 --> 00:33:55.680
We pull We just stopped and I shine the flashlight

629
00:33:55.759 --> 00:33:59.799
back and there's nothing there, and there's no sounds, there's

630
00:33:59.799 --> 00:34:06.720
no crickets, there's no bugs, there's no nothing still there. Yes, okay,

631
00:34:07.359 --> 00:34:09.559
so sorry. I don't mean to keep asking that, but

632
00:34:09.719 --> 00:34:15.920
I don't trust this phone, so it sucks. So we

633
00:34:16.039 --> 00:34:17.880
finally get out of there. The second we get to

634
00:34:17.880 --> 00:34:22.960
that church parking lot, everything stopped. It just stopped, and

635
00:34:23.039 --> 00:34:25.360
I was so pissed. I was taunting it. I was like, hey,

636
00:34:26.079 --> 00:34:28.960
I'm in my truck. My because we took two separate vehicles,

637
00:34:28.960 --> 00:34:31.559
so my truck's there now and my trucks are closest

638
00:34:31.559 --> 00:34:34.039
to the woods, and I'm like, come on, throw another rock,

639
00:34:34.280 --> 00:34:37.440
come on, let's do it. Go ahead. No, nothing, They

640
00:34:37.519 --> 00:34:42.280
just stopped. So I'm ruffed up. He's rubbed up. He's like, dude,

641
00:34:42.280 --> 00:34:44.079
I'm done. I'm going home. That was enough for me.

642
00:34:44.280 --> 00:34:46.920
I said, yep, that's enough for me too, dude. So

643
00:34:48.679 --> 00:34:51.760
I go home and I cracked a couple of beers

644
00:34:51.800 --> 00:34:55.280
and just try to forget it. A couple weeks later,

645
00:34:56.199 --> 00:34:57.760
you want to go out again, I said, yes, I

646
00:34:57.800 --> 00:35:02.199
will go. I'm not staying till daylight nighttime. I will

647
00:35:02.280 --> 00:35:04.880
leave with plenty of sun left in the sky. I

648
00:35:04.880 --> 00:35:08.199
am not doing this again. So we go. I can't relax,

649
00:35:08.440 --> 00:35:11.039
so we walk out there. I don't even want to fish.

650
00:35:11.360 --> 00:35:17.239
I'm too raancy. It's too much. So it's like six

651
00:35:17.280 --> 00:35:20.480
o'clock comes and you can tell the sun's gonna set.

652
00:35:20.519 --> 00:35:22.639
So I said, dude, I'm out, let's go. Oh come on,

653
00:35:23.079 --> 00:35:27.079
don't be a you know what. Let's go come on. Nope, nope, nope, nope,

654
00:35:27.159 --> 00:35:30.920
I'm done. He goes, all right, So let's start walking out.

655
00:35:31.039 --> 00:35:34.840
It's daylight. I can see, I can see everything. And

656
00:35:37.239 --> 00:35:40.440
a rock the size of a basketball comes flying out

657
00:35:40.440 --> 00:35:43.400
of the woods. I can hear it hitting the branches

658
00:35:43.400 --> 00:35:47.360
above me, and it lands in the water and it.

659
00:35:47.400 --> 00:35:51.480
Just makes the biggest compoge. And he's like, oh, wow,

660
00:35:51.519 --> 00:35:53.159
did you hear that fish? And said, how did you

661
00:35:53.199 --> 00:35:56.039
not hear? That's not a fish? And he's like, yeah, well,

662
00:35:56.039 --> 00:35:58.440
I said no, it's not. We're arguing. I'm like how,

663
00:35:58.559 --> 00:36:01.079
and I'm yelling at him. I'm like, how dumb are you?

664
00:36:01.440 --> 00:36:04.280
That's not a fish, Dude, I've had enough of this stuff.

665
00:36:04.360 --> 00:36:06.199
He goes, no, no, no, we got to get down there.

666
00:36:06.239 --> 00:36:07.480
You're just being paranoid.

667
00:36:07.559 --> 00:36:10.400
You're being parent. I said, I'm not being paranoid, and

668
00:36:10.440 --> 00:36:13.920
then a rock we start walking again, A rock beside

669
00:36:13.960 --> 00:36:16.519
of a bowling ball, maybe like one of those little

670
00:36:16.599 --> 00:36:19.239
kid bowling balls, you know, the bump of bowling balls

671
00:36:19.480 --> 00:36:22.079
comes flying out of the woods, lands on the path,

672
00:36:22.119 --> 00:36:25.599
but directly between us. Way we just walked in between

673
00:36:25.639 --> 00:36:28.119
us where I just walked, and bounces and goes into

674
00:36:28.159 --> 00:36:31.880
the lake. And somehow he doesn't hear this at all.

675
00:36:33.199 --> 00:36:35.199
So I turned around and said, what the f? He

676
00:36:35.280 --> 00:36:38.519
goes what I said, how did you just trip? He

677
00:36:38.679 --> 00:36:41.480
just no? I said, what was that thump? Because I

678
00:36:41.519 --> 00:36:43.679
saw it. I'm like and I'm like trying to rationalize this,

679
00:36:43.679 --> 00:36:44.920
so I already know what it was, but I'm like,

680
00:36:45.360 --> 00:36:48.280
what what is going on? Like? Why how did you

681
00:36:48.400 --> 00:36:50.159
not hear it? Did? I just see what I saw?

682
00:36:50.199 --> 00:36:51.880
And he's like, dude, you're freaking out. You need to

683
00:36:51.920 --> 00:36:55.800
calm down. I'm like, I'm not. Do you think I'm loosinating? Dude? Like,

684
00:36:55.880 --> 00:36:59.519
I'm not. I don't understand why you just I'm like, dude, no,

685
00:36:59.760 --> 00:37:01.639
just He's like, dude, due, you gotta calm down. I'm

686
00:37:01.639 --> 00:37:04.239
like nope, and I start walking. I'm walking out of it.

687
00:37:04.280 --> 00:37:07.400
I'm done, and he's behind me, here's a dude, waight up.

688
00:37:07.440 --> 00:37:08.079
I'm like nope.

689
00:37:08.239 --> 00:37:10.639
And the whole time, the rest of the time we're

690
00:37:10.639 --> 00:37:12.480
walking out, they weren't doing what they were doing at night.

691
00:37:13.119 --> 00:37:13.800
The last time.

692
00:37:13.920 --> 00:37:17.599
They were pelting everything, ripping branches off. There's rocks the

693
00:37:17.599 --> 00:37:21.760
side of baseballs, taking branches off, and they this was weird.

694
00:37:22.360 --> 00:37:28.280
They're dropping marble to golf ball sized rocks from the sky.

695
00:37:28.440 --> 00:37:31.760
They're not getting whipped at you or past you. They're

696
00:37:31.760 --> 00:37:37.920
falling directly from above you, right in front of your faces.

697
00:37:38.159 --> 00:37:42.079
Go dude, what was there? I said, dude, you eight coorns.

698
00:37:42.079 --> 00:37:44.320
I'm like, dude, you think I'm that dumb, I don't.

699
00:37:44.639 --> 00:37:48.280
I watched the rock hit the ground and roll. No, no, no,

700
00:37:48.320 --> 00:37:51.320
it's just eight corns, dude, it's the fall. I said, no, no, no, no, no,

701
00:37:51.840 --> 00:37:55.039
we get back. I said, I'm dude, I'm never going

702
00:37:55.039 --> 00:37:56.519
in there again. And I've been in these woods my

703
00:37:56.559 --> 00:38:00.400
whole life by myself till midnight, and the only thing

704
00:38:00.400 --> 00:38:02.039
I can think of is back when I was in

705
00:38:02.119 --> 00:38:06.360
high school. I'm thirty four. Me and my buddy, my

706
00:38:06.400 --> 00:38:09.519
other friend Dan just passed away. We rode our bikes

707
00:38:09.519 --> 00:38:11.920
out there to fish one time and a spot near there,

708
00:38:12.920 --> 00:38:16.159
and I got ahead of him and stopped to wait

709
00:38:16.199 --> 00:38:19.960
for him. And I was probably fourteen fifteen and a

710
00:38:20.039 --> 00:38:22.159
rock hit my bike tire and fell on the ground.

711
00:38:23.119 --> 00:38:24.760
That was it. And I turned around said, hey, did

712
00:38:24.760 --> 00:38:26.159
you throw a rock at He goes no, and his

713
00:38:26.239 --> 00:38:29.280
chain fell off. He was busy fixing his chain and

714
00:38:29.400 --> 00:38:32.360
I never thought anything of it. That was it. So

715
00:38:32.800 --> 00:38:37.239
now I've had three times in Plymouth, the twenty three,

716
00:38:37.760 --> 00:38:40.920
and then one more at that halfway and then another

717
00:38:40.960 --> 00:38:46.400
one incident at the particular pond in Miles Standish. Now

718
00:38:46.440 --> 00:38:49.199
it's doing it down the street from my house. These

719
00:38:49.559 --> 00:38:53.800
I'm miles from Miles Standish, So how does this happened?

720
00:38:53.800 --> 00:38:56.920
That's I don't understand. Why how do these things know

721
00:38:57.559 --> 00:39:01.199
where I'm at, what I'm doing? Why are they bothering us?

722
00:39:01.320 --> 00:39:05.000
Why are they forcing us out? So I was talking

723
00:39:05.000 --> 00:39:07.000
to I shouldn't have done this, because I get made

724
00:39:07.000 --> 00:39:08.679
fun of it to this day.

725
00:39:08.719 --> 00:39:11.960
But I brought it up to a guy at work

726
00:39:13.119 --> 00:39:14.920
and he goes, oh, my buddy does a show and

727
00:39:14.920 --> 00:39:16.880
he has a podcast, and da da da da da.

728
00:39:17.079 --> 00:39:18.960
Why don't you your message him? He lives around here

729
00:39:19.480 --> 00:39:22.239
and I won't mention who it is for his own privacy,

730
00:39:22.679 --> 00:39:27.760
but at that point in time, I just wanted some

731
00:39:27.920 --> 00:39:31.320
type of answer. And I don't believe in the regular

732
00:39:31.559 --> 00:39:34.760
conventional way that a lot of these the problem. I'm

733
00:39:34.760 --> 00:39:37.519
not saying that anybody's wrong. Anybody can do this the

734
00:39:37.519 --> 00:39:39.760
way they want to do it. But you're going out

735
00:39:39.760 --> 00:39:42.119
in the woods and banging on trees and making hooting

736
00:39:42.159 --> 00:39:46.159
and hollering and stuff, you might get a reaction, but

737
00:39:46.880 --> 00:39:49.880
usually these things just find you. From what I've found,

738
00:39:50.559 --> 00:39:53.440
I'm not an expert, but I'm not into that stuff

739
00:39:53.760 --> 00:39:57.480
at all. So he goes, you should really go and

740
00:39:57.519 --> 00:39:59.599
talk to him, and blah blah blah. So I said, fine,

741
00:39:59.639 --> 00:40:03.559
screw So I I message a guy, Yeah, let me

742
00:40:03.800 --> 00:40:05.400
talk to you. Can I put you on speakerphone with

743
00:40:05.400 --> 00:40:08.519
my prit and I said yeah. So we're talking. They're like, yep,

744
00:40:08.559 --> 00:40:10.920
that's what's going on. And I said, okay, well, if

745
00:40:10.960 --> 00:40:13.320
you want to go out with us, you're more than welcome.

746
00:40:14.400 --> 00:40:18.159
And they wanted to see the place in daytime where

747
00:40:18.159 --> 00:40:23.119
the last thing happened. So I took them, and I

748
00:40:23.199 --> 00:40:24.920
kind of, actually, to be honest, I felt kind of

749
00:40:24.960 --> 00:40:26.840
embarrassed because this is not my type of thing. It's

750
00:40:26.920 --> 00:40:29.480
not I really listen to stories. I just want to

751
00:40:29.480 --> 00:40:31.639
hear encounters. That's what I want to hear. I want

752
00:40:31.679 --> 00:40:33.280
to hear and I want to compare it to things

753
00:40:33.280 --> 00:40:36.519
that I've seen. It's interesting. I don't really go out

754
00:40:36.559 --> 00:40:38.559
I'm not going out there and looking for these things.

755
00:40:38.880 --> 00:40:43.199
That's not my thing. So I take them over there,

756
00:40:44.559 --> 00:40:47.280
and it was weird because when we were out there, again,

757
00:40:47.360 --> 00:40:51.000
this is a very congested area. I mean, there's clumps

758
00:40:51.039 --> 00:40:53.719
of a few thousand acres here and there, but that's it.

759
00:40:54.599 --> 00:40:57.039
We're on the shore of the slake that I took

760
00:40:57.079 --> 00:41:00.960
them to. It's right down the street. And sure, there's

761
00:41:01.000 --> 00:41:05.039
a pile of muscle shells. I'm not I'm talking like

762
00:41:05.079 --> 00:41:10.599
a hundred more than a hundred shells of freshwater muscles.

763
00:41:11.079 --> 00:41:14.239
And there's this big impression in the ground. So, okay,

764
00:41:14.760 --> 00:41:18.119
what was it. I told my friend Dan about it

765
00:41:18.239 --> 00:41:20.400
and go, oh, it's probably a raccoon. I said, no, dude,

766
00:41:20.480 --> 00:41:22.599
raccoons don't go and collect a big pile and then

767
00:41:22.639 --> 00:41:24.679
sit there and eat them. So whatever that was, I

768
00:41:24.679 --> 00:41:27.280
don't know. Other than that, that whole thing was kind

769
00:41:27.280 --> 00:41:30.039
of uneventful, and I just they wanted to see where

770
00:41:30.480 --> 00:41:32.400
things happened, and that was one of the weird things.

771
00:41:32.400 --> 00:41:36.840
That was it. No footprints, no nothing. So a couple

772
00:41:36.840 --> 00:41:41.239
of weeks later, an hour in October and later October

773
00:41:41.639 --> 00:41:43.800
and the guy goes, hey, do you want to go

774
00:41:43.880 --> 00:41:45.639
out to one of our spots? And I won't say

775
00:41:45.639 --> 00:41:48.000
where it is, and I said, you know, what's screw it,

776
00:41:48.159 --> 00:41:50.800
I've seen find a bigfoot and all this. I said, Okay,

777
00:41:51.039 --> 00:41:53.559
I'll go check it out. What do I have to lose.

778
00:41:53.559 --> 00:41:56.039
It's a Friday night, I don't care. So I go

779
00:41:56.119 --> 00:41:59.480
out with them and they're beinging on trees and whooping

780
00:41:59.639 --> 00:42:02.280
and so in silence, and I'm like, to me, this

781
00:42:02.400 --> 00:42:05.800
is dumb. I'm like, I just I'm already thinking about

782
00:42:05.800 --> 00:42:07.679
what I want to eat for dinner, what I want

783
00:42:07.679 --> 00:42:11.639
to watch later, and where I'm I'm not making fun

784
00:42:11.679 --> 00:42:14.039
of them, I'm just saying like I was just like

785
00:42:14.199 --> 00:42:16.679
kind of checked out, like okay, this is what I

786
00:42:16.679 --> 00:42:19.440
thought it would be. So we're walking out of the

787
00:42:19.480 --> 00:42:26.360
woods and there's a big field and we came in

788
00:42:26.440 --> 00:42:29.079
from and it's off of the main road. So we're

789
00:42:29.119 --> 00:42:31.519
in the woods about one hundred feet still and we're

790
00:42:31.679 --> 00:42:35.440
walking out and all of a sudden, there's all these

791
00:42:35.440 --> 00:42:40.079
little lights and they are about the size of a

792
00:42:40.119 --> 00:42:43.920
big marble and they're just blinking one here, one there,

793
00:42:44.079 --> 00:42:48.280
one here, one there. And I'm like, what that's that.

794
00:42:49.400 --> 00:42:49.920
They're like what.

795
00:42:50.000 --> 00:42:53.320
I'm like, what does that? And I'm like, oh, that

796
00:42:53.440 --> 00:42:55.760
means that they're around. I'm like, what do you mean them?

797
00:42:55.840 --> 00:42:56.320
What do you mean?

798
00:42:56.639 --> 00:43:00.480
Like like, what do you mean? Oh, well, that's what

799
00:43:00.519 --> 00:43:01.679
they do. And I said, what do you mean? That's

800
00:43:01.679 --> 00:43:04.639
what they do? And all of a sudden, this orb

801
00:43:05.440 --> 00:43:09.320
the sides of like a baseball. Now, did mind you?

802
00:43:09.480 --> 00:43:12.280
We're not this is like a small clump of woods

803
00:43:12.280 --> 00:43:14.719
compared to other parts, like this is like a few

804
00:43:14.840 --> 00:43:21.480
hundred acres. Okay, This baseball size orb comes drifting through

805
00:43:21.480 --> 00:43:27.159
the trees and it starts to grow and it goes

806
00:43:27.199 --> 00:43:33.960
to about the size of an exercise ball, and it's pulsating.

807
00:43:34.599 --> 00:43:36.960
Now it's going down about the size of basketball and

808
00:43:37.000 --> 00:43:39.280
then back to an exercise ball. And when I'm looking

809
00:43:39.280 --> 00:43:43.760
at this thing, it looks like one of those it's

810
00:43:43.800 --> 00:43:45.840
got like you know when you look at one of

811
00:43:45.880 --> 00:43:50.159
those deep ocean jellyfish that's got like the different colors,

812
00:43:50.199 --> 00:43:54.920
like the strobing stuff you barely could make it out,

813
00:43:54.960 --> 00:43:56.639
but you could see that in it. And this thing

814
00:43:56.719 --> 00:43:59.360
is getting smaller and bigger, and it's drifting back through

815
00:43:59.360 --> 00:44:03.039
the woods and forward through the woods towards us, backwards,

816
00:44:03.239 --> 00:44:06.880
and it's weaving around trees, and there's no sound, and

817
00:44:06.920 --> 00:44:09.320
it's just like everybody else says, that's Ces's orbs, there's

818
00:44:09.519 --> 00:44:12.880
no they don't. It wasn't emitting light. It was just

819
00:44:14.400 --> 00:44:17.280
it was just all self contained. It was weird. And

820
00:44:17.400 --> 00:44:20.559
I never got a feeling from this thing that it

821
00:44:20.639 --> 00:44:24.199
was violent, it was angry, it was evil. I just

822
00:44:24.199 --> 00:44:26.159
couldn't believe what I'm looking at. I did there's no

823
00:44:26.320 --> 00:44:29.719
way after all these stories and accounts that I've heard

824
00:44:29.760 --> 00:44:34.199
about these stupid orbs, and I still believe them, but

825
00:44:34.239 --> 00:44:36.440
I'm like, there's just no way that I'm ever going

826
00:44:36.519 --> 00:44:40.760
to see something like this. And I found it weird,

827
00:44:40.880 --> 00:44:43.400
Like why am I seeing this after? Like why did

828
00:44:43.440 --> 00:44:46.199
this not happen? Like obviously that's what was throwing the

829
00:44:46.280 --> 00:44:48.760
rocks at me and my friend, So what now I'm

830
00:44:48.760 --> 00:44:52.039
with the group of these researchers, okay, and this is happening.

831
00:44:53.320 --> 00:44:56.800
So we're watching this thing for twenty minutes, half hour.

832
00:44:56.880 --> 00:44:59.880
I don't know and all of a sudden just kind

833
00:44:59.880 --> 00:45:05.840
of dissipates backs up and it's gone. And then two

834
00:45:05.920 --> 00:45:09.280
pairs of eyeballs show up that are eight feet tall,

835
00:45:11.039 --> 00:45:16.400
white eyeballs glowing white, like a yellowy white. And I'm

836
00:45:16.559 --> 00:45:22.119
watching these things blink and everything. I don't know what

837
00:45:22.239 --> 00:45:23.920
I'm looking I mean, I know what I'm looking at,

838
00:45:23.920 --> 00:45:25.679
but I don't know if it's them, I don't know

839
00:45:25.679 --> 00:45:27.800
if it's some type of deity. I don't know. All

840
00:45:27.840 --> 00:45:31.440
I know is there's two big sets of eyeballs. I

841
00:45:31.480 --> 00:45:35.719
don't know what to do. I don't I'm I'm you're

842
00:45:35.800 --> 00:45:38.639
kind of stuck. I mean, I had my truck there.

843
00:45:38.639 --> 00:45:40.039
I could have ran away. You know, it's a few

844
00:45:40.159 --> 00:45:42.000
hundred feet away out in the field that could have

845
00:45:42.079 --> 00:45:44.159
I could have ran. I just I think you get

846
00:45:44.239 --> 00:45:47.199
kind of you don't want to ruin it.

847
00:45:47.320 --> 00:45:49.639
You're like, well, if I die die, I don't think

848
00:45:49.679 --> 00:45:52.559
I will, but I'm probably not gonna get this chance again.

849
00:45:53.360 --> 00:45:56.159
So I'm staying with them, and we're just watching these eyes.

850
00:45:58.199 --> 00:46:01.480
I mean, one of the guys hands me, yeah, it

851
00:46:01.519 --> 00:46:05.320
wasn't thermal, it was a night vision set of binocular

852
00:46:05.400 --> 00:46:09.800
or something, and he's like, look at it, Okay, I

853
00:46:09.880 --> 00:46:11.840
grab it, and I'm looking at the parrot one of

854
00:46:11.840 --> 00:46:17.159
the sets of eyeballs, and it looked like a five

855
00:46:17.480 --> 00:46:22.000
gallon bucket far ahead with a five foot shoulders standing

856
00:46:22.000 --> 00:46:25.000
behind a road dedrom bush. I didn't see any detail.

857
00:46:25.079 --> 00:46:26.960
I couldn't see the hair, I couldn't see a face.

858
00:46:27.239 --> 00:46:31.679
It was just eyes with a giant outline. And I'm like, okay,

859
00:46:31.840 --> 00:46:37.320
all right, well why It's like, why is you shouldn't

860
00:46:37.360 --> 00:46:41.400
be seeing this is? This is insane? So and mind

861
00:46:41.400 --> 00:46:43.920
you got really cold all of a sudden. It was

862
00:46:44.199 --> 00:46:46.599
just freezing. I mean we went in the woods. It

863
00:46:46.679 --> 00:46:49.679
was fifty sixty degrees out. I mean it was so

864
00:46:49.840 --> 00:46:52.199
cold that my hands are going numb. I don't know

865
00:46:52.280 --> 00:46:54.639
if that was just me my body's reaction to the

866
00:46:55.119 --> 00:46:59.280
I don't know. So we get out of the woodline.

867
00:46:59.360 --> 00:47:02.599
We're making it back towards the vehicles, and these things

868
00:47:02.639 --> 00:47:04.920
are just keeping their distance, but they're falling us out.

869
00:47:05.559 --> 00:47:08.280
Once we got to the field, you just watch they

870
00:47:08.320 --> 00:47:10.920
just they never left the woods.

871
00:47:10.199 --> 00:47:15.920
Just the two of them, and I look up at

872
00:47:15.920 --> 00:47:17.199
the sky.

873
00:47:17.400 --> 00:47:21.840
Everyone's infatuated with the woods, and the sun hadn't been

874
00:47:22.119 --> 00:47:24.480
it wasn't completely down and you know, like right before

875
00:47:24.760 --> 00:47:32.000
you get that really rich pink sky, there was no clouds.

876
00:47:31.719 --> 00:47:37.159
This one cloud almost it wasn't perfect, like, it wasn't

877
00:47:37.199 --> 00:47:39.360
straight lined triangle, but it looked like a wedge. It

878
00:47:39.400 --> 00:47:42.440
looked like just a triangle cloud the size of a

879
00:47:42.440 --> 00:47:45.800
pickup truck. And it was only, you know, one hundred

880
00:47:45.840 --> 00:47:48.679
feet one hundred and fifty feet above the woodline, and

881
00:47:48.719 --> 00:47:49.599
it's coming.

882
00:47:49.360 --> 00:47:54.159
Over us, and it's got a tail on it, a

883
00:47:54.199 --> 00:48:01.559
black smoky tail that it looked, I don't know, it

884
00:48:01.559 --> 00:48:05.079
almost looked like a comet tail, but it was just

885
00:48:05.119 --> 00:48:07.239
really fluffy and wispy, and it did come out to

886
00:48:07.280 --> 00:48:10.360
a point, but it was I don't know what I'm

887
00:48:10.360 --> 00:48:13.079
looking this is. It's all too weird. The whole thing

888
00:48:13.159 --> 00:48:16.840
is too weird. And it's got like sparkles in it.

889
00:48:16.840 --> 00:48:19.199
It's got the cloud itself looked just like a regular

890
00:48:19.280 --> 00:48:21.840
kind of cloud other than the weird shape. But the

891
00:48:21.920 --> 00:48:25.079
tail on this thing looked like it.

892
00:48:24.960 --> 00:48:29.960
Almost looked like a black, black, dirty sooty smoke with

893
00:48:30.239 --> 00:48:35.000
like gold flake in it. I get everyone's attention, They're

894
00:48:35.039 --> 00:48:39.400
all look I said, what does that? Everyone looks up.

895
00:48:40.280 --> 00:48:43.320
The second everybody looked at it, everyone saw it. It

896
00:48:43.440 --> 00:48:47.800
disappeared in thin air, gone, and when it did, two

897
00:48:47.840 --> 00:48:52.840
more sets of eyeballs showed up. Now there's four of them.

898
00:48:53.119 --> 00:48:58.280
So again, I sound like an idiot for saying this stuff,

899
00:48:58.280 --> 00:49:03.039
because this isn't supposed to But I mean, I've never

900
00:49:03.079 --> 00:49:05.920
really quite heard I've heard some weird stuff, but I've

901
00:49:05.920 --> 00:49:07.840
never heard anybody talking about a cloud with a.

902
00:49:07.960 --> 00:49:08.519
Tail on it.

903
00:49:09.159 --> 00:49:12.199
So that and then two more of these things show up.

904
00:49:12.239 --> 00:49:14.079
So that's the first I've ever heard of it. And

905
00:49:14.079 --> 00:49:16.719
I've you know, put thousands of hours and the listening

906
00:49:16.679 --> 00:49:21.639
to these podcasts. So that was weird. And we're going

907
00:49:21.679 --> 00:49:24.800
to leave, you know, they all went out at you know,

908
00:49:24.840 --> 00:49:28.519
another twenty minutes. Their eyes just disappeared, and okay, they're gone,

909
00:49:28.840 --> 00:49:32.239
and we're all talking about it. And now they show

910
00:49:32.360 --> 00:49:35.480
up on the other sides of the field, near the

911
00:49:35.559 --> 00:49:38.159
road where we have to leave by, and it's all

912
00:49:38.159 --> 00:49:41.559
four of them, and you can see the move them

913
00:49:41.599 --> 00:49:44.840
around they're walking through. There's no sound. You can see

914
00:49:44.840 --> 00:49:47.239
where their eyes are moving. I look off to the

915
00:49:47.320 --> 00:49:50.639
right after I was only counting three pairs of eyes,

916
00:49:50.840 --> 00:49:54.440
and I look off to the right and I just

917
00:49:54.440 --> 00:49:57.679
saw a big, giant black mass just moving across the field.

918
00:49:58.000 --> 00:50:02.239
My flashlight wouldn't have reached it. And then they all

919
00:50:02.280 --> 00:50:07.239
went out and we just left. We were leaving and

920
00:50:08.079 --> 00:50:10.800
I had to bring one of the guys home. And

921
00:50:11.559 --> 00:50:14.400
when I came out into the main road, I mean,

922
00:50:14.440 --> 00:50:16.199
the reason why I'm not mentioning any of this is

923
00:50:16.280 --> 00:50:19.639
just for respect for him, because this is his research area.

924
00:50:19.800 --> 00:50:22.320
And if I mentioned the road, everybody will know where

925
00:50:22.360 --> 00:50:25.039
it is around here, so I just for respect for him,

926
00:50:25.039 --> 00:50:28.039
I won't do that. But when we pull out on

927
00:50:28.079 --> 00:50:34.519
the road, there's a F three fifty sitting there, and

928
00:50:34.559 --> 00:50:37.960
the ladies got all the interior lights on, and she's

929
00:50:38.000 --> 00:50:41.519
sitting there with her elbows on the steering wheel, with

930
00:50:41.599 --> 00:50:44.400
her hands up on her forehead, just staring out the window.

931
00:50:45.679 --> 00:50:48.159
And I turned to the gentleman and I said, should

932
00:50:48.199 --> 00:50:52.920
be taught. He's like, nope, just keep going. I said, okay.

933
00:50:53.480 --> 00:50:56.199
So I don't know what that lady saw, but she

934
00:50:56.280 --> 00:50:58.960
looked extremely distraught, and it was right where these things

935
00:50:59.039 --> 00:51:03.559
just were before they left, so I drop them off.

936
00:51:04.199 --> 00:51:06.039
I don't know what to make of it. I had

937
00:51:06.079 --> 00:51:10.079
to go to Walmart parking lot and sit for a

938
00:51:10.119 --> 00:51:13.159
few hours under the street lights just to calm down.

939
00:51:13.559 --> 00:51:17.880
It was just too weird. It was just from everything

940
00:51:17.920 --> 00:51:20.800
that the terrifying things that happened in the woods, stuff

941
00:51:20.800 --> 00:51:22.840
at the boat, and now I'm seeing the stuff in

942
00:51:22.840 --> 00:51:24.639
my own eyes. It was just too much.

943
00:51:26.280 --> 00:51:27.840
I ended up not getting home in like one in

944
00:51:27.840 --> 00:51:30.280
the morning, and I had to work the next day.

945
00:51:30.920 --> 00:51:36.880
So I didn't go out with them again. I kind

946
00:51:36.880 --> 00:51:38.800
of wanted to forget about it. I didn't want to

947
00:51:38.840 --> 00:51:48.320
deal with it anymore. So the winter goes by and nothing, no,

948
00:51:48.559 --> 00:51:51.199
not outside, not dealing with it. I'm busy plowing and

949
00:51:51.239 --> 00:51:52.760
standing for the town. I got a lot of stuff

950
00:51:52.800 --> 00:51:55.400
going on. So March finally.

951
00:51:55.039 --> 00:51:58.280
Comes and the weather's getting nice and in the same

952
00:51:58.320 --> 00:52:01.159
one that all the stuff happened with except he wasn't

953
00:52:01.159 --> 00:52:04.519
there for the visual stuff. But he goes, you want

954
00:52:04.519 --> 00:52:06.199
to go fishing? I said, yeah, all right.

955
00:52:07.199 --> 00:52:12.920
So we meet up and it's a little river. It's deep,

956
00:52:12.960 --> 00:52:14.360
but there's a lot of fish in it, and it's

957
00:52:14.400 --> 00:52:15.840
in the middle of nowhere, like in the middle of

958
00:52:15.840 --> 00:52:21.760
a wooded area, and it's daylight. I get it out

959
00:52:21.800 --> 00:52:24.960
of the truck and a rock flies over my truck

960
00:52:26.159 --> 00:52:28.840
and he gets out and I said, dude, a rock

961
00:52:28.960 --> 00:52:29.760
just full of the truck.

962
00:52:30.599 --> 00:52:33.360
He goes, no, it didn't. I said, yes, it's getting old.

963
00:52:33.400 --> 00:52:35.719
At this point, I said that yep, it just happened.

964
00:52:35.960 --> 00:52:37.800
He goes, dude, it's just I said, how many times

965
00:52:37.800 --> 00:52:39.920
you're gonna say it's just freaking people? Dude? Now we're

966
00:52:39.920 --> 00:52:43.480
in a totally another spot, and I'm like, you know what,

967
00:52:43.519 --> 00:52:46.079
I don't care, So I stop fishing with him. Every

968
00:52:46.159 --> 00:52:48.280
time we cast the law, a rock was hitting exactly

969
00:52:48.280 --> 00:52:50.880
where were just casting the laws. And it got to

970
00:52:50.880 --> 00:52:52.599
the point where there's no point being here anymore.

971
00:52:53.480 --> 00:52:57.239
And packed it up and then we left and I

972
00:52:57.280 --> 00:52:58.639
haven't been near the woods.

973
00:52:59.679 --> 00:53:02.280
I I can't go back. It's ruined this for me.

974
00:53:02.519 --> 00:53:05.679
And this was something that I did. There was nothing

975
00:53:05.719 --> 00:53:08.960
better than I liked to get out of work grab

976
00:53:08.960 --> 00:53:13.519
my fishing poles. I mean, I'm not like, I know

977
00:53:13.559 --> 00:53:15.199
a lot of people make this stuff up and stuff,

978
00:53:15.199 --> 00:53:18.440
but I have PTSD and this was my That was

979
00:53:18.480 --> 00:53:21.719
my number one thing to give me peace of mind

980
00:53:21.800 --> 00:53:24.679
and relaxation was to grab a couple of beers, throw

981
00:53:24.800 --> 00:53:27.400
my tackle back, walk out a mile or two and

982
00:53:27.519 --> 00:53:30.239
just sit there till you know, nine, ten eleven o'clock

983
00:53:30.239 --> 00:53:32.920
at night and just fish. I can't do that anymore.

984
00:53:34.039 --> 00:53:38.840
I'm done. I refuse because the next step, yeah, dude,

985
00:53:38.840 --> 00:53:41.519
I'm done. So I don't know. Take all that for

986
00:53:41.599 --> 00:53:47.400
what you will. I hate liars, I really do. And

987
00:53:47.440 --> 00:53:50.280
I hope you think I'm telling the truth because I

988
00:53:50.400 --> 00:53:52.960
actually don't even know. I just want answers, and this

989
00:53:53.119 --> 00:53:56.400
is ruining. I'm afraid to go outside at night by myself.

990
00:53:56.519 --> 00:53:59.079
I mean, I have twelve hundred and thirteen hundred acres

991
00:53:59.079 --> 00:54:04.519
behind my house. It's creepy. I don't like it. I

992
00:54:04.519 --> 00:54:06.639
don't know when the phone caught off earlier, but I

993
00:54:06.679 --> 00:54:10.159
mean I was younger, and weird stuff would happen around here,

994
00:54:10.320 --> 00:54:12.440
and I would never I never thought of this stuff.

995
00:54:12.440 --> 00:54:14.760
I mean I can remember sitting there in high school

996
00:54:14.960 --> 00:54:17.760
a little after that, actually, and something would just smack

997
00:54:17.800 --> 00:54:20.119
the side of the house really freaking loud. It would

998
00:54:20.159 --> 00:54:23.039
shake the paintings on the wall, and you come outside

999
00:54:23.039 --> 00:54:25.599
and there's nothing there, and it's like, okay, was that that.

1000
00:54:26.119 --> 00:54:29.239
I don't know, none of this makes sense. I can't

1001
00:54:29.239 --> 00:54:32.119
wrap my head around the cloud with the smoke on it,

1002
00:54:32.159 --> 00:54:34.719
And then magically two more sets of eyeballs appear, like

1003
00:54:35.000 --> 00:54:36.880
I don't know, I don't know if you've ever heard that,

1004
00:54:36.920 --> 00:54:38.079
but I've never heard that.

1005
00:54:38.360 --> 00:54:41.280
The first thing I want to say is that it's

1006
00:54:41.320 --> 00:54:46.599
not crazy, because it is so It's not the first

1007
00:54:46.599 --> 00:54:49.960
time that I've heard something like this, although the rock

1008
00:54:50.039 --> 00:54:53.480
throwing is probably the most intense example I've ever heard

1009
00:54:53.519 --> 00:54:57.320
of rock throwing, to be honest, I mean, I've never

1010
00:54:57.400 --> 00:55:01.119
heard of it where it follows you to different places

1011
00:55:01.159 --> 00:55:05.119
like that. It's just it's that's very extreme.

1012
00:55:05.199 --> 00:55:10.800
Dude. Yeah, I don't get I don't get the point.

1013
00:55:11.000 --> 00:55:15.480
I don't like I've tried to ask different people, like,

1014
00:55:15.559 --> 00:55:18.280
who are you with. I'm like, my friend Dan, well,

1015
00:55:18.280 --> 00:55:21.599
what did he do? I'm like, I don't know how.

1016
00:55:21.559 --> 00:55:23.639
Long my friends called me, I get up and mute it.

1017
00:55:25.960 --> 00:55:27.679
They're like, did he take a park shot at one

1018
00:55:27.719 --> 00:55:30.199
of these things or something. I'm like, I don't know, dude,

1019
00:55:32.679 --> 00:55:35.280
it doesn't make any So he's out in the tree

1020
00:55:35.320 --> 00:55:36.280
stand all the time.

1021
00:55:37.000 --> 00:55:37.960
They don't screw them.

1022
00:55:38.519 --> 00:55:42.559
I've been out fishing by myself millions of times in

1023
00:55:42.599 --> 00:55:46.599
those same woods. Nothing, It's only moment together and I

1024
00:55:46.679 --> 00:55:47.639
don't get it.

1025
00:55:48.239 --> 00:55:50.519
And nothing adds up.

1026
00:55:51.360 --> 00:55:51.840
And then.

1027
00:55:53.280 --> 00:55:54.840
Yeah, the the thing with the.

1028
00:55:54.719 --> 00:55:58.239
Cloud dude, with the smoky tail on it with the

1029
00:55:58.599 --> 00:56:00.639
glitter in it, but whatever you want to call it.

1030
00:56:00.679 --> 00:56:03.079
And then the thing turns into two more sets of eyeballs.

1031
00:56:03.119 --> 00:56:06.679
It's like, what are they doing? Like? I like, what

1032
00:56:06.920 --> 00:56:08.800
is that like? I don't know if that's like how

1033
00:56:08.840 --> 00:56:12.199
they move around in this realm, because in my opinion,

1034
00:56:12.599 --> 00:56:16.039
they're not here all the time. And everyone's like, oh, we're.

1035
00:56:15.840 --> 00:56:17.360
Going to go try to find where they live.

1036
00:56:17.840 --> 00:56:21.039
They don't live here. I don't think they live here.

1037
00:56:21.360 --> 00:56:24.400
I think that they visit. And I could be wrong.

1038
00:56:24.800 --> 00:56:26.840
Maybe they stay here for months on end and that's

1039
00:56:26.840 --> 00:56:33.400
why people find nests and tree structures and whatever. But

1040
00:56:33.719 --> 00:56:37.840
you know, after watching a lot of flash of beauty,

1041
00:56:38.519 --> 00:56:40.880
I watched a gentleman. I can't remember his name. It

1042
00:56:40.960 --> 00:56:46.239
was out of Vermont or what's the capital of Vermont there?

1043
00:56:46.360 --> 00:56:47.159
I can't think of it.

1044
00:56:47.280 --> 00:56:51.960
Oh, yeah, I know the one you're talking about. I'm

1045
00:56:51.960 --> 00:56:56.320
blanking too. He because he does a lot what is

1046
00:56:56.360 --> 00:56:59.960
that guy's name? It does a lot of tree structure stuf.

1047
00:57:01.519 --> 00:57:02.280
Yeah, he's an alder.

1048
00:57:02.320 --> 00:57:05.280
Guy's got glasses. He talks about how these things act

1049
00:57:06.559 --> 00:57:10.760
a lot, a lot like how a autistic person would act.

1050
00:57:11.320 --> 00:57:13.119
They know if you move and touch.

1051
00:57:12.960 --> 00:57:16.519
Things, and they're loud and vocal, and they get mad

1052
00:57:16.519 --> 00:57:19.239
at certain things, and they like things in a certain way,

1053
00:57:19.320 --> 00:57:21.079
and they know how things are.

1054
00:57:21.519 --> 00:57:23.920
So it's like, I don't know if me and Dan.

1055
00:57:25.199 --> 00:57:26.199
My biggest thing is this.

1056
00:57:26.960 --> 00:57:29.760
I think that they only are I've heard this before,

1057
00:57:30.400 --> 00:57:35.239
that they're coming here to this plane of dimension or

1058
00:57:35.320 --> 00:57:40.400
realm or whatever certain months of the year, and maybe

1059
00:57:40.400 --> 00:57:43.039
there's different ones that stay here all the time. I

1060
00:57:43.079 --> 00:57:46.760
don't know, And obviously there's good ones and bad ones.

1061
00:57:47.039 --> 00:57:51.760
Because the size of these rocks that they're throwing, i'd

1062
00:57:51.760 --> 00:57:54.320
be dead. So that's the thing that makes me question,

1063
00:57:54.440 --> 00:57:56.719
like if they wanted me dead and they were evil

1064
00:57:57.119 --> 00:58:00.880
and there were some satanic evil demon, be dead already.

1065
00:58:01.239 --> 00:58:03.159
Because these things are perfectly accurate.

1066
00:58:03.280 --> 00:58:06.480
It's insane how accurate they are. It makes no sense.

1067
00:58:06.880 --> 00:58:10.079
So I can't wrap my head around it because I

1068
00:58:10.119 --> 00:58:13.079
think there's just so we're only getting a little glimpse

1069
00:58:13.239 --> 00:58:15.760
of what these things are doing and what they're capable

1070
00:58:15.800 --> 00:58:20.440
of what. So that's a weird people out that everybody

1071
00:58:20.440 --> 00:58:22.840
that's like, oh, it's just a monkey. If I got

1072
00:58:22.840 --> 00:58:24.679
to hear it's a monkey one more time, I'm gonna

1073
00:58:24.719 --> 00:58:28.159
lose my mind. It's not a monkey. It's not a monkey.

1074
00:58:28.400 --> 00:58:30.880
There's no way it's a monkey. Oh well, then it's

1075
00:58:30.880 --> 00:58:33.239
to me, No, you're not missing the point. I know

1076
00:58:33.280 --> 00:58:35.280
it's not a monkey. You mean ape in general, Yes,

1077
00:58:35.360 --> 00:58:39.360
I know, primate whatever, or And I will mention this.

1078
00:58:39.599 --> 00:58:42.840
I started off like everybody did or most people do,

1079
00:58:43.679 --> 00:58:46.639
when I started listening to these podcasts. I won't mention

1080
00:58:46.760 --> 00:58:50.119
the specific podcast that got me into all this stuff,

1081
00:58:50.880 --> 00:58:53.599
but at the time, I'm sure you'll.

1082
00:58:53.480 --> 00:58:54.360
Put two and two together.

1083
00:58:54.400 --> 00:58:57.639
When I sat mentioning it, it was about it's a

1084
00:58:57.719 --> 00:59:01.199
lost chain of the evolutionary tree, and these things are

1085
00:59:01.199 --> 00:59:04.119
no more than some type of branch off the Neanderthals

1086
00:59:04.239 --> 00:59:09.639
or some whatever ostralopithecuss. And then they get in it.

1087
00:59:09.760 --> 00:59:10.719
It's like no, no, no, no, no.

1088
00:59:10.880 --> 00:59:16.639
These things they do kill, they do eat, they do live, they.

1089
00:59:16.480 --> 00:59:20.400
Poop, they they pee, they leave RESIDU, they leave DNA.

1090
00:59:22.159 --> 00:59:25.559
But there's so much to this that we don't know.

1091
00:59:26.159 --> 00:59:28.039
And then everyone wants to put a label on it,

1092
00:59:28.119 --> 00:59:30.800
like I know exactly what it. No, you don't, you

1093
00:59:30.880 --> 00:59:33.840
don't know crap, I don't know crap. All I know

1094
00:59:33.960 --> 00:59:36.639
is what I saw, and it's something not of this

1095
00:59:36.760 --> 00:59:41.320
world that we're not used to. So I don't know, dude,

1096
00:59:41.400 --> 00:59:41.880
I don't know.

1097
00:59:43.400 --> 00:59:46.920
Yeah, it's man, it is intense. And I'll tell you, like,

1098
00:59:47.599 --> 00:59:50.000
I've only talked to a few people from Massachusetts, but

1099
00:59:50.559 --> 00:59:53.159
this is one of the I would say, probably the

1100
00:59:53.199 --> 00:59:59.000
most intense encounter series i've I've heard from Massachusetts. It's

1101
00:59:59.039 --> 01:00:02.440
weird because you know, it's it's an area that you

1102
01:00:02.559 --> 01:00:06.719
don't hear a lot about, this Plymouth area, which is

1103
01:00:07.400 --> 01:00:11.320
you know, south of Austin, not quite the Cape. It's

1104
01:00:11.400 --> 01:00:13.440
just an interesting area. But there's a lot of like

1105
01:00:13.519 --> 01:00:15.800
swamps and stuff in there, and you've got like the

1106
01:00:15.840 --> 01:00:17.360
Bridgewater Triangle right.

1107
01:00:18.800 --> 01:00:24.480
Yes, weird area. I say what I said, there's got

1108
01:00:24.599 --> 01:00:27.000
to be. So when they when I went out with

1109
01:00:27.039 --> 01:00:30.760
those people that I got linked up with, and you're

1110
01:00:30.800 --> 01:00:35.599
finding that big giant pile of muscleshells, Why is there

1111
01:00:35.639 --> 01:00:40.519
a pile of one hundred plus muffles with a giant

1112
01:00:41.159 --> 01:00:42.599
imprint in the reeds?

1113
01:00:42.880 --> 01:00:44.440
Like this is right on the shore of a lake.

1114
01:00:45.440 --> 01:00:47.519
There's a giant imprint. You can see it.

1115
01:00:47.519 --> 01:00:50.960
It was like, I don't know, four feet wide, two

1116
01:00:51.000 --> 01:00:55.239
foot you know deep, and it's just like what is that?

1117
01:00:55.440 --> 01:00:56.880
Like, what are they doing, like, I don't.

1118
01:00:57.840 --> 01:01:01.199
Are they here to like use resources like I mean,

1119
01:01:01.239 --> 01:01:05.400
I've heard plenty of stories where these Native Americans, you know,

1120
01:01:05.599 --> 01:01:08.239
say they see them near granite walls and they just

1121
01:01:08.320 --> 01:01:11.880
disappear into a rock wall like, oh, they go through

1122
01:01:11.920 --> 01:01:14.360
port like I don't know. And I think the thing

1123
01:01:14.480 --> 01:01:19.159
is people try to put this thing into a category.

1124
01:01:19.320 --> 01:01:22.880
There is no category. I'm if I had a best

1125
01:01:22.960 --> 01:01:27.599
guess of what the what they are. Is there something

1126
01:01:28.480 --> 01:01:34.239
that has been here and there's something that is beyond

1127
01:01:35.159 --> 01:01:39.599
human comprehension. And I think that humans at one point,

1128
01:01:39.880 --> 01:01:40.480
I don't.

1129
01:01:40.239 --> 01:01:45.599
Believe what we've been told about.

1130
01:01:45.400 --> 01:01:47.960
The history of the human race. I think the Bible

1131
01:01:48.000 --> 01:01:51.320
has it mostly right. I think that it's also been manipulated.

1132
01:01:51.679 --> 01:01:56.840
I think that there's giant pieces missing there. The elites

1133
01:01:56.880 --> 01:02:02.400
that run the world don't want every normal person to

1134
01:02:02.639 --> 01:02:05.880
know where we came from. And it's all about power

1135
01:02:06.039 --> 01:02:06.719
and control.

1136
01:02:07.280 --> 01:02:09.840
I mean, we don't need to run cars on oil

1137
01:02:09.960 --> 01:02:13.239
and have Like the solar crap is stupid. It just

1138
01:02:13.280 --> 01:02:16.840
pollutes more. All electric cars. Oh yeah, great, yeah, okay,

1139
01:02:16.960 --> 01:02:18.559
I bought a Tesla. Look how great I am.

1140
01:02:18.920 --> 01:02:22.159
The whole thing is just a facade. The whole thing,

1141
01:02:22.800 --> 01:02:26.159
and it's like, I want to know it goes back

1142
01:02:26.199 --> 01:02:28.960
to the great forgetting. They talk about the great forgetting

1143
01:02:29.880 --> 01:02:32.480
where obviously the Pyramids aren't just to.

1144
01:02:32.440 --> 01:02:34.719
Bury of Pharaoh. That's stupid.

1145
01:02:34.920 --> 01:02:37.960
Who builds that that? You can't build today and you

1146
01:02:38.000 --> 01:02:39.960
don't know how it works. But it's all laser measured,

1147
01:02:40.039 --> 01:02:42.719
can't put a piece of paper between it between each.

1148
01:02:42.599 --> 01:02:45.320
Of the rocks. But yet they did, Oh well, yeah, yeah, they.

1149
01:02:45.320 --> 01:02:48.719
Built that to put the fast No, we're being lied

1150
01:02:48.760 --> 01:02:50.639
to and I don't like it, and I want to

1151
01:02:50.639 --> 01:02:53.559
know why we're being lied to. And these things have

1152
01:02:53.800 --> 01:02:57.639
something to do with where we came from and who

1153
01:02:57.639 --> 01:03:00.960
we are, and I don't like that.

1154
01:03:01.280 --> 01:03:05.079
Certain people there's somebody, there's multiple.

1155
01:03:04.719 --> 01:03:06.920
People on this planet right now that knows exactly what

1156
01:03:07.039 --> 01:03:09.880
these things are. That's that's the sat vibe.

1157
01:03:10.440 --> 01:03:15.000
No, I agree with that one hundred percent. They're definitely

1158
01:03:15.920 --> 01:03:19.679
individuals that have more knowledge about this subject than the

1159
01:03:19.760 --> 01:03:26.199
general The general public for sure does. So you know,

1160
01:03:26.280 --> 01:03:29.760
you you experience all this stuff out when you're you're

1161
01:03:29.800 --> 01:03:33.840
fishing in other places. Is it at the point where

1162
01:03:33.880 --> 01:03:37.000
it's also following you home? Like there's weird stuff that

1163
01:03:37.039 --> 01:03:38.519
happens at home as well.

1164
01:03:42.039 --> 01:03:43.920
I get to a point where I don't know if

1165
01:03:43.920 --> 01:03:49.480
it's paradolia or PARANOI I should say where I come

1166
01:03:49.480 --> 01:03:52.639
out at night, Like I've got to like this is embarrassing.

1167
01:03:53.440 --> 01:03:57.880
This has bothered me to the point where say, I'm alone,

1168
01:03:58.639 --> 01:04:01.519
like my girlfriends at our house and my mother lives

1169
01:04:01.519 --> 01:04:01.719
with me.

1170
01:04:01.880 --> 01:04:04.199
I own my own house. My mother lives with me.

1171
01:04:04.760 --> 01:04:12.119
I actually live in my childhood house. My long story short.

1172
01:04:13.119 --> 01:04:18.199
Because of reasons that my mother couldn't keep the house,

1173
01:04:18.440 --> 01:04:19.519
I had to step up.

1174
01:04:19.480 --> 01:04:20.000
And buy it.

1175
01:04:20.199 --> 01:04:22.719
So I own the house that I grew up and

1176
01:04:22.760 --> 01:04:24.480
I've been here for thirty.

1177
01:04:25.800 --> 01:04:28.840
Oh was it, Yeah, thirty years. We moved here when

1178
01:04:28.840 --> 01:04:32.119
I was four, so I'm thirty four.

1179
01:04:32.519 --> 01:04:35.920
I've owned this house thirty years. There have been really

1180
01:04:36.639 --> 01:04:41.199
weird things that have happened around here, but not lately

1181
01:04:42.079 --> 01:04:49.760
other than the fact that my buddy, well, the first

1182
01:04:49.800 --> 01:04:51.880
weird thing I've ever noticed around And this is before

1183
01:04:51.920 --> 01:04:53.199
I got into the subject at all.

1184
01:04:53.320 --> 01:04:57.519
I didn't care. And mind you, I was stationed in

1185
01:04:57.599 --> 01:04:58.280
Fort Lewis.

1186
01:04:59.320 --> 01:05:04.000
There's Class A reports on Fort Lewis. I didn't give

1187
01:05:04.000 --> 01:05:06.559
a crap up. Yeah, I didn't give a crap about that. Stuff.

1188
01:05:06.559 --> 01:05:08.440
I was in the army. I was twenty two, twenty three.

1189
01:05:08.480 --> 01:05:09.000
I didn't care.

1190
01:05:09.039 --> 01:05:11.280
I was out drinking and partying with people. You know,

1191
01:05:12.119 --> 01:05:14.119
I didn't care that sasquat.

1192
01:05:14.159 --> 01:05:17.199
Oh yeah, Bigfoot is in Washington. Uhuh, Like nobody cared.

1193
01:05:18.360 --> 01:05:21.840
So I lived in Bigfoot capital of the world and

1194
01:05:21.920 --> 01:05:26.599
I didn't care. And come back here and then, you know,

1195
01:05:26.719 --> 01:05:28.119
you get into the podcast a lot.

1196
01:05:28.159 --> 01:05:31.119
But anyway to get back to it. When I was.

1197
01:05:31.079 --> 01:05:33.920
Younger, I was, I was in high school and I

1198
01:05:33.960 --> 01:05:38.559
don't know, I was fourteen fifteen, and me and my

1199
01:05:38.599 --> 01:05:41.119
buddy were having a fire one time and were out

1200
01:05:41.119 --> 01:05:43.920
near the woods and like I said, this twelve hundred

1201
01:05:43.920 --> 01:05:45.800
and thirteen hundred because of the woods by my house.

1202
01:05:46.599 --> 01:05:49.719
And we didn't drink back then. You know, I was

1203
01:05:49.760 --> 01:05:50.480
a late bloomer.

1204
01:05:51.039 --> 01:05:53.400
We didn't smoke weed. We're just sitting there having a fire.

1205
01:05:53.960 --> 01:05:55.400
It was dead, quiet, was great.

1206
01:05:56.159 --> 01:05:59.320
All of a sudden, there's a you know, a twenty

1207
01:05:59.320 --> 01:06:02.159
foot sapling that's still sapling. It's still you know, it's

1208
01:06:02.159 --> 01:06:06.119
only like three inches at the base maple tree just shaking,

1209
01:06:06.639 --> 01:06:10.440
and this thing is screaming, just this god awful screaming.

1210
01:06:11.000 --> 01:06:13.159
And I had a you know back then, flashlight suck.

1211
01:06:13.480 --> 01:06:16.360
There's no like led real stuff back then, and whatever.

1212
01:06:16.400 --> 01:06:19.880
It's just like a stupid you know, three D CL

1213
01:06:20.400 --> 01:06:24.360
maglight and I'm shining. There's nothing there, and I'm watching

1214
01:06:24.400 --> 01:06:27.480
this tree went back and forth with this screaming, and

1215
01:06:27.559 --> 01:06:30.440
it moved across my guard without a seeing it and

1216
01:06:30.599 --> 01:06:33.719
was got into the corner of the other part of

1217
01:06:33.760 --> 01:06:36.760
the ad. It's doing the same thing, and we're both

1218
01:06:36.800 --> 01:06:39.400
just standing up. We stood up, we'll watch and there's

1219
01:06:39.440 --> 01:06:42.840
nothing there. And it just screamed and went off into

1220
01:06:42.880 --> 01:06:43.320
the woods.

1221
01:06:43.360 --> 01:06:45.000
And my friend was like, what the frick was that?

1222
01:06:45.679 --> 01:06:48.039
I said, I don't know, so we just it sounded

1223
01:06:48.119 --> 01:06:50.400
like a dying goat, so we just called it the

1224
01:06:50.400 --> 01:06:54.119
goat beast and he was like whatever. And I can

1225
01:06:54.199 --> 01:06:57.199
remember when I got out of the army. I was

1226
01:06:57.239 --> 01:07:00.960
twenty three, and I can with sitting at home and

1227
01:07:01.000 --> 01:07:04.199
I was sitting in on the chair watching TV and

1228
01:07:04.239 --> 01:07:05.960
all of a sudden, it sounded like somebody.

1229
01:07:05.679 --> 01:07:06.880
Back the truck into the house.

1230
01:07:07.239 --> 01:07:10.719
It was like boom, and the paintings on.

1231
01:07:10.679 --> 01:07:14.719
The wall moved like the TV rattled.

1232
01:07:14.320 --> 01:07:18.599
On the on the the cabinet. I go outside of

1233
01:07:18.639 --> 01:07:26.320
the flashlight, nothing there what was that? So years go by,

1234
01:07:27.119 --> 01:07:32.920
now I have what happened to me happened, and nothing

1235
01:07:33.280 --> 01:07:36.599
remotely around, you know, within years and years with nothing

1236
01:07:36.639 --> 01:07:39.599
happened on here. So I've had what happened.

1237
01:07:39.360 --> 01:07:42.559
To me, but not here. So excuse me.

1238
01:07:43.119 --> 01:07:46.239
My buddy is a really avid hunter.

1239
01:07:46.480 --> 01:07:47.760
Not the guy that.

1240
01:07:47.719 --> 01:07:50.599
I witnessed this with. This is another kid that I

1241
01:07:50.679 --> 01:07:54.719
know that I met another job, and he's, you know,

1242
01:07:54.960 --> 01:07:58.280
real into everything. He'll go to Maine, go bear hunting

1243
01:07:58.320 --> 01:08:01.320
with dog with dogs, and go coon hunting all this stuff.

1244
01:08:01.960 --> 01:08:07.760
And he goes, Hey, that property behind your house that's

1245
01:08:07.800 --> 01:08:10.760
not posted. I said, no, She's like, you care if

1246
01:08:10.800 --> 01:08:12.920
I use your Yeah, I don't pack my truck and

1247
01:08:13.199 --> 01:08:15.159
go in there. I'm like, I don't care.

1248
01:08:15.679 --> 01:08:18.039
And sure I know. So he was going there.

1249
01:08:18.079 --> 01:08:19.960
He was going in there four in the morning and

1250
01:08:20.039 --> 01:08:23.520
he set up a tree stand. He come the next day.

1251
01:08:23.560 --> 01:08:27.760
I'm at work until he's seven o'clock. He's coming out

1252
01:08:27.760 --> 01:08:30.159
of there the other day. Off he goes, I am

1253
01:08:30.239 --> 01:08:34.119
never going in there again. I said, what happened? He goes, Dude,

1254
01:08:34.760 --> 01:08:38.039
I don't know what that was, but it sounded like

1255
01:08:38.079 --> 01:08:43.159
a bulldozer going through the woods, ripping trees down, smashing, screaming,

1256
01:08:43.920 --> 01:08:47.880
and I'm like, did what did it sound like? He's like,

1257
01:08:47.920 --> 01:08:49.199
it's it was screaming.

1258
01:08:49.359 --> 01:08:49.880
I don't know.

1259
01:08:50.840 --> 01:08:53.880
He's like it was literally yards from me. It's like

1260
01:08:53.920 --> 01:08:56.239
I had my headlight headlamp on it, and I'm watching

1261
01:08:56.239 --> 01:08:58.600
the boy. It looked like Jurassic Pack when the raft

1262
01:08:58.720 --> 01:09:02.119
is a killing the cow and I'm like, well, what happened.

1263
01:09:02.279 --> 01:09:04.319
He's like, nothing, it took off and it was gone.

1264
01:09:04.319 --> 01:09:06.760
He's like, I'm never going in there again. And he's

1265
01:09:06.760 --> 01:09:14.760
never been back since. So other than that, the only

1266
01:09:14.800 --> 01:09:17.119
other thing I can think of was when I was

1267
01:09:17.159 --> 01:09:19.800
in high school, me and my buddy Dan, the other

1268
01:09:19.800 --> 01:09:22.960
one of my friend Dan he passed away. The other

1269
01:09:23.000 --> 01:09:25.680
friend Dan, we would go out fishing down these fire

1270
01:09:25.720 --> 01:09:26.479
roads where.

1271
01:09:26.359 --> 01:09:27.199
This stuff happened.

1272
01:09:28.039 --> 01:09:30.479
And we would be on bicycles and we had, you know,

1273
01:09:30.520 --> 01:09:34.800
we made a fishing rod holders out of PBC pipe

1274
01:09:34.800 --> 01:09:37.119
and we'd zip uh what do you call it, the

1275
01:09:37.239 --> 01:09:39.279
host clamp them to the frame of the bike and stuff,

1276
01:09:39.319 --> 01:09:41.520
and you'd have rod holders and we go out to

1277
01:09:41.560 --> 01:09:45.079
these places. I remember getting ahead of him one day

1278
01:09:45.960 --> 01:09:48.119
and I turned around and realized he's not there, so

1279
01:09:48.159 --> 01:09:52.119
I stopped and I'm going Dan Dan, and our rock

1280
01:09:52.520 --> 01:09:53.840
hit the back.

1281
01:09:53.560 --> 01:09:55.680
Wheel of the bicycle.

1282
01:09:56.840 --> 01:09:59.840
While I'm turned around, I watched it hit the fire

1283
01:10:00.079 --> 01:10:00.840
and hit the.

1284
01:10:00.760 --> 01:10:05.720
Ground, and I'm like okay. So I turn.

1285
01:10:05.560 --> 01:10:08.319
Around and I go back and he's about one hundred

1286
01:10:08.359 --> 01:10:11.800
foot back and his chain fell off. So I'm like,

1287
01:10:11.800 --> 01:10:13.159
what do you did you do a rocky?

1288
01:10:13.560 --> 01:10:17.439
He's like no. I'm like, okay, well what no, my

1289
01:10:17.520 --> 01:10:21.560
chain fell off. I was like, oh, so he's screwing

1290
01:10:21.560 --> 01:10:25.800
with that. He didn't, And that was it. So these

1291
01:10:25.840 --> 01:10:29.720
things have been there. I've had a really the other

1292
01:10:29.760 --> 01:10:32.560
thing I can think of. I used to drive a rig.

1293
01:10:33.239 --> 01:10:36.000
I'd have to drive the Stoton Mass It took me

1294
01:10:36.039 --> 01:10:38.880
about an hour and one day I had to leave

1295
01:10:38.920 --> 01:10:40.560
at like four in the morning. I used to have

1296
01:10:40.600 --> 01:10:42.720
to drive the Lebanon, New Hampshire to go pick up

1297
01:10:42.760 --> 01:10:44.199
a load, and.

1298
01:10:44.199 --> 01:10:47.359
I left here at four and I'm driving my pickup.

1299
01:10:48.000 --> 01:10:51.560
And I remember watching this. It just looked like a shadow.

1300
01:10:52.119 --> 01:10:54.560
It was just it was the shape of a human,

1301
01:10:55.399 --> 01:11:00.279
huge and it was so black that it absorbed light.

1302
01:11:00.359 --> 01:11:01.039
It was weird.

1303
01:11:01.560 --> 01:11:03.840
You know, like at night when you go out, your

1304
01:11:03.840 --> 01:11:06.359
headlights suck more because the back when the road's wet,

1305
01:11:06.399 --> 01:11:08.560
it's blacker, and it just the headlights.

1306
01:11:08.199 --> 01:11:10.600
And that that's what it looked like.

1307
01:11:10.640 --> 01:11:13.399
Is just walked across the road and it was a

1308
01:11:13.479 --> 01:11:16.760
ways up though, and you're like, okay, And this is

1309
01:11:16.800 --> 01:11:18.680
before I was even into any of this stuff, so

1310
01:11:19.039 --> 01:11:21.319
it didn't matter in me. I'm like, okay, yeah, what

1311
01:11:21.439 --> 01:11:21.720
was that.

1312
01:11:21.800 --> 01:11:23.520
I don't know. I'm too tired, I don't care. I

1313
01:11:23.520 --> 01:11:24.359
don't want to go to work.

1314
01:11:24.399 --> 01:11:24.920
This sucks.

1315
01:11:25.239 --> 01:11:25.920
And that was it.

1316
01:11:26.319 --> 01:11:29.479
So there has been weird things that have happened in

1317
01:11:29.560 --> 01:11:34.159
my house, but for some reason, these things, I feel

1318
01:11:34.199 --> 01:11:39.119
like I haven't gone back to any of these places

1319
01:11:39.159 --> 01:11:43.720
after they screwed me. And it's almost like, I don't know,

1320
01:11:43.960 --> 01:11:47.000
it sounds dumb, but it's almost like they're respecting me

1321
01:11:47.840 --> 01:11:50.439
by not screwing with me where I live.

1322
01:11:51.199 --> 01:11:54.920
I don't know, because they have to have some type

1323
01:11:54.960 --> 01:11:59.399
of not empathy, but not respect.

1324
01:11:59.439 --> 01:12:01.720
I can't I can't think of the word. But they

1325
01:12:02.199 --> 01:12:07.840
are not vindict These ones around here are not vindictive.

1326
01:12:07.920 --> 01:12:11.039
They're not vengeful seeking, they're not trying to ruin my life.

1327
01:12:11.720 --> 01:12:13.760
I do get creeped out though, coming out here at night.

1328
01:12:14.079 --> 01:12:16.000
I mean the other oh yeah, the other night, I'm

1329
01:12:16.039 --> 01:12:17.640
sitting out here, I come out.

1330
01:12:18.239 --> 01:12:19.880
I don't sleep. I haven't saw him yet.

1331
01:12:20.119 --> 01:12:24.159
It's from the war, from just stress. I just I

1332
01:12:24.279 --> 01:12:26.800
push it to the limit every every time, I just gotta.

1333
01:12:27.319 --> 01:12:29.800
I have to be dead tired and just hit this

1334
01:12:29.880 --> 01:12:31.760
wall and then I'm like, okay, I'm going to bed.

1335
01:12:32.079 --> 01:12:35.479
So I have a back porch that's one hundred feet

1336
01:12:35.520 --> 01:12:38.239
from the woods, and I have a little table with

1337
01:12:38.399 --> 01:12:41.079
an umbrella, and I came out to smoke a cigarette

1338
01:12:42.039 --> 01:12:49.560
and it's dead quiet. All of a sudden, I hearaboom,

1339
01:12:50.439 --> 01:12:54.920
and this massive tree fell mount and then I kept

1340
01:12:54.960 --> 01:12:58.119
hearing weird voice, like we could hear mumbled voices, and

1341
01:12:58.159 --> 01:13:01.279
then it just stopped. So we did just have a

1342
01:13:01.279 --> 01:13:04.880
big storm come through. A bunch of trees came down.

1343
01:13:05.560 --> 01:13:08.319
So it's like, okay, was it that or is it

1344
01:13:08.439 --> 01:13:12.279
just is it these things and they pushed the tree

1345
01:13:12.319 --> 01:13:16.359
down or is it me being paranoid and it was

1346
01:13:16.479 --> 01:13:18.640
just a tree that was ready to fall because of

1347
01:13:18.680 --> 01:13:22.760
the wind. I don't know, but there's definitely been really

1348
01:13:22.760 --> 01:13:26.399
weird things around here. Another thing is and it kind

1349
01:13:26.439 --> 01:13:32.000
of got me another little kid part of my yard

1350
01:13:32.079 --> 01:13:34.720
now that's et our yard anymore. It's all woods now

1351
01:13:34.920 --> 01:13:38.119
and it goes up to the main road. It was

1352
01:13:38.119 --> 01:13:41.079
a field when I was a kid. My dad would

1353
01:13:41.079 --> 01:13:43.560
mow it and the grass would get up about three

1354
01:13:43.560 --> 01:13:45.520
hot foot high full for high, and my dad would

1355
01:13:45.560 --> 01:13:48.159
mow it. Well. Then we gave up on it. But

1356
01:13:48.319 --> 01:13:51.760
I remember being a little kid walking up there and

1357
01:13:51.800 --> 01:13:54.880
there would be these big impressions in the in the

1358
01:13:55.239 --> 01:13:58.920
high grass, huge, and there would always be a turred

1359
01:13:58.920 --> 01:14:01.760
in the middle of it, like a big one, like

1360
01:14:01.880 --> 01:14:05.399
it looked like a really really big human tard.

1361
01:14:05.880 --> 01:14:07.840
And they'd be like, oh, I mean.

1362
01:14:07.840 --> 01:14:09.319
And my friend would be hanging on me like what's

1363
01:14:09.359 --> 01:14:11.359
that and be like, oh, that's where.

1364
01:14:11.119 --> 01:14:11.840
A deer was.

1365
01:14:12.479 --> 01:14:14.560
And I was like, well, what's that And he's like, oh,

1366
01:14:14.680 --> 01:14:16.199
let's put a geerpoop.

1367
01:14:16.239 --> 01:14:20.279
And You're like okay, But what was it? I don't know.

1368
01:14:20.319 --> 01:14:22.079
For all I know was a hobo that was just

1369
01:14:22.199 --> 01:14:22.960
coming and crap.

1370
01:14:23.199 --> 01:14:23.760
I don't know.

1371
01:14:24.399 --> 01:14:26.560
It was just weird. It's just one of those weird things.

1372
01:14:26.560 --> 01:14:29.199
And my father I remember him waking me up. He's

1373
01:14:29.239 --> 01:14:32.039
passed away, but I might have been like eight or nine.

1374
01:14:32.840 --> 01:14:35.199
He came to my room early on a Sunday morning.

1375
01:14:35.239 --> 01:14:36.319
He goes, hey, did you hear that.

1376
01:14:37.119 --> 01:14:37.720
I said no.

1377
01:14:38.720 --> 01:14:40.880
He said, the son of like a Clydesdale running too

1378
01:14:40.920 --> 01:14:41.279
the ad.

1379
01:14:42.600 --> 01:14:44.359
I said, no, I didn't hear anything.

1380
01:14:44.720 --> 01:14:46.600
He's like I could feel it in my bed.

1381
01:14:47.720 --> 01:14:48.359
I said, what do you mean.

1382
01:14:48.399 --> 01:14:51.640
He's like I could feel the the something in my

1383
01:14:51.720 --> 01:14:54.560
bed on the second floor, which is now my room.

1384
01:14:55.479 --> 01:14:58.239
I'm you know, I'm okay. I'm like, no, I didn't mean.

1385
01:14:58.359 --> 01:15:00.960
He's like that was strange, and I don't know. And

1386
01:15:01.000 --> 01:15:04.359
that was it. But there's been weird stuff and.

1387
01:15:04.319 --> 01:15:07.880
I've seen the dogs just lose their minds. Oh and

1388
01:15:07.960 --> 01:15:10.640
the other thing I wanted to tell you that rock

1389
01:15:11.880 --> 01:15:15.800
that it threw in the bed of the truck that

1390
01:15:15.960 --> 01:15:21.319
one time at Halfway Pond. When I got home, I

1391
01:15:21.399 --> 01:15:26.039
was curious. So I got a Jack Russell and a beagle.

1392
01:15:27.079 --> 01:15:29.720
And the beagle is like kind of like a vegetable.

1393
01:15:29.880 --> 01:15:31.880
I adopted her. She was like a breeder dog.

1394
01:15:32.039 --> 01:15:35.640
Some piece of craft just used her to pump out

1395
01:15:35.640 --> 01:15:37.039
puppies and left her in a kennel.

1396
01:15:37.079 --> 01:15:38.279
So she's kind of like out of it.

1397
01:15:38.319 --> 01:15:42.159
But the jack Russell, the male's I've had him since

1398
01:15:42.159 --> 01:15:45.279
a puppy. He's a very smart dog. I took the

1399
01:15:45.399 --> 01:15:48.439
rock and I went to see what he'd do, and

1400
01:15:48.479 --> 01:15:51.159
I put it down on the ground, on the on

1401
01:15:51.199 --> 01:15:54.680
the floor in the living room. He went over to it,

1402
01:15:54.760 --> 01:15:55.880
smelled it, and went right in.

1403
01:15:55.840 --> 01:15:58.119
His crate and he just sat there and looked at me.

1404
01:15:58.920 --> 01:16:02.640
That's not normal. He was freaked out. I don't and

1405
01:16:02.840 --> 01:16:07.560
everyone's like, oh, yeah, whatever, No, he looked. He was fine.

1406
01:16:07.640 --> 01:16:09.520
His wagon sailor came up to me. He was happy,

1407
01:16:09.760 --> 01:16:11.079
and he's fine. He loves to see me.

1408
01:16:11.479 --> 01:16:13.760
I just said here and I put that rock down.

1409
01:16:14.279 --> 01:16:16.279
He smelled it and he went nope, and he went

1410
01:16:16.359 --> 01:16:17.520
right in the crate and sat there.

1411
01:16:17.760 --> 01:16:22.520
So what was that? I don't know. Maybe I don't know.

1412
01:16:22.760 --> 01:16:25.640
I don't know. I'm just telling you what I have witnessed.

1413
01:16:25.680 --> 01:16:30.000
So the problem with this subject is you instantly get

1414
01:16:30.079 --> 01:16:35.279
labeled a fruit gig and it sucks, especially around here,

1415
01:16:35.359 --> 01:16:38.800
like you know this, this doesn't happen here, absolutely well

1416
01:16:39.399 --> 01:16:41.079
because not, Yeah.

1417
01:16:40.720 --> 01:16:43.600
I think so. I think personally it happens there are

1418
01:16:43.720 --> 01:16:48.279
just people are scared out of their minds to be labeled,

1419
01:16:48.359 --> 01:16:52.600
as you just said, and no one talks about it. That.

1420
01:16:52.600 --> 01:16:55.880
That's personally what I think, but me.

1421
01:16:55.960 --> 01:16:59.800
Too, well, like when you listen to you talk about

1422
01:16:59.800 --> 01:17:01.720
the off and then you listen because you and Wesden

1423
01:17:01.800 --> 01:17:06.319
only to I listened to they talk about you both

1424
01:17:06.359 --> 01:17:08.920
talk about down well not YouTube, but like the people

1425
01:17:08.960 --> 01:17:14.600
you're interview down South, I mean they got booger, hollow booger,

1426
01:17:14.680 --> 01:17:17.600
this watch out for the buggers. All these people they

1427
01:17:17.640 --> 01:17:19.760
were raised around it, but it was still taboo to

1428
01:17:19.840 --> 01:17:20.439
talk about it.

1429
01:17:21.479 --> 01:17:22.960
It's not like Washington State.

1430
01:17:22.800 --> 01:17:24.600
Where it's like, oh yeah, it's like a.

1431
01:17:24.720 --> 01:17:28.479
Commercial thing here this place.

1432
01:17:28.880 --> 01:17:32.479
Out of everywhere, this is the number one no no zone.

1433
01:17:32.600 --> 01:17:36.279
You do not talk about it here. This is you

1434
01:17:36.319 --> 01:17:36.760
know what I mean?

1435
01:17:37.600 --> 01:17:43.079
Oh absolutely, God. You don't get many responses when you

1436
01:17:44.079 --> 01:17:47.439
when you go around talking to people out in that

1437
01:17:47.640 --> 01:17:50.760
area of New England, for sure. Is it a thing

1438
01:17:50.880 --> 01:17:56.399
where you want these interactions to stop or or you're

1439
01:17:56.520 --> 01:17:57.439
kind of okay with them.

1440
01:18:01.880 --> 01:18:03.720
This is a weird feeling I get, and I don't

1441
01:18:03.760 --> 01:18:06.399
know if it's based on reality or not, but what

1442
01:18:06.840 --> 01:18:12.560
I'm assuming is this that one time it showed itself

1443
01:18:12.640 --> 01:18:14.600
behind it in a walk behind the truck and Dan

1444
01:18:14.720 --> 01:18:17.760
saw it and I didn't. I'm jealous of him in

1445
01:18:17.840 --> 01:18:23.239
a weird way because it's what I want. My mind

1446
01:18:23.279 --> 01:18:26.279
can't make itself up. I mean, I've seen their eyes,

1447
01:18:26.520 --> 01:18:29.359
I've seen the outline of them, I've seen the cloud

1448
01:18:29.479 --> 01:18:31.920
weird thing that I can't explain that makes no sense.

1449
01:18:32.920 --> 01:18:36.079
But if I had a face to face encounter at

1450
01:18:36.119 --> 01:18:38.119
twenty feet, I don't know what I would do. I

1451
01:18:38.239 --> 01:18:38.640
don't know.

1452
01:18:39.119 --> 01:18:42.359
I don't I'd probably pass out. I don't know, I

1453
01:18:42.479 --> 01:18:46.039
don't know, like I don't. But yet, the other part

1454
01:18:46.079 --> 01:18:48.840
of my brain's like, you want that, you want to

1455
01:18:48.880 --> 01:18:54.760
see one. You want to just have that final piece

1456
01:18:55.039 --> 01:18:59.359
of proof where it doesn't matter what anybody else thinks

1457
01:18:59.439 --> 01:19:02.159
because it's for you. But I'm like, well, in my head,

1458
01:19:02.159 --> 01:19:03.479
I'm like I already got to that point.

1459
01:19:03.880 --> 01:19:04.640
I'm already there.

1460
01:19:05.319 --> 01:19:09.880
It's just the thing is, what I saw could be

1461
01:19:10.039 --> 01:19:13.680
labeled as anybody else in the industry could be like, Okay,

1462
01:19:13.800 --> 01:19:19.000
so did you actually see a seven foot tall sasquatch.

1463
01:19:18.479 --> 01:19:19.199
Standing in front of you?

1464
01:19:19.600 --> 01:19:19.640
No?

1465
01:19:19.800 --> 01:19:20.199
I didn't.

1466
01:19:20.840 --> 01:19:23.000
Okay, Well, then how do you know it's not a demon?

1467
01:19:23.159 --> 01:19:24.680
How do you know it's not a ghost? How do

1468
01:19:24.760 --> 01:19:24.920
you not?

1469
01:19:25.640 --> 01:19:29.319
I don't know that, But I'm ninety percent sure that's

1470
01:19:29.359 --> 01:19:29.600
what that.

1471
01:19:29.840 --> 01:19:33.600
Frick it is, because it doesn't it lines up with that.

1472
01:19:34.479 --> 01:19:35.039
It couldn't be.

1473
01:19:35.640 --> 01:19:39.000
It's not skin walker, it's not a you know, obviously,

1474
01:19:39.039 --> 01:19:41.960
it's definitely not a freaking bear. So none of it

1475
01:19:42.079 --> 01:19:45.479
makes sense. So I have a gut feeling that if

1476
01:19:45.600 --> 01:19:49.640
I went out tonight for some reason, like I said,

1477
01:19:51.439 --> 01:19:55.239
being aware of these things, it's almost like the more

1478
01:19:55.319 --> 01:19:58.000
you invite this into your life, the more you're going.

1479
01:19:57.960 --> 01:19:58.279
To see it.

1480
01:19:58.560 --> 01:20:03.880
So if I had a little bit more.

1481
01:20:06.199 --> 01:20:10.840
Will power or well balls, I'd go out there tonight

1482
01:20:11.279 --> 01:20:13.479
and I'd sit out there for the last place that's

1483
01:20:13.560 --> 01:20:16.640
happened with me and Dan, and I would sit there

1484
01:20:17.960 --> 01:20:18.640
and they would come.

1485
01:20:18.840 --> 01:20:19.359
They would come.

1486
01:20:19.640 --> 01:20:22.199
I know for a fact they would come because.

1487
01:20:23.760 --> 01:20:25.079
It has nothing to really do with him.

1488
01:20:25.199 --> 01:20:27.760
It's like I'm there now, they know I'm aware of them,

1489
01:20:28.039 --> 01:20:30.239
and they're aware of me. So if I want to

1490
01:20:30.279 --> 01:20:33.319
see one, I'm going to see one. Do I want

1491
01:20:33.399 --> 01:20:37.640
to No, not right now, but yet I do. But

1492
01:20:37.800 --> 01:20:40.399
I want that thing that everybody else gets. It'd be

1493
01:20:40.520 --> 01:20:42.399
nice to be like I was driving to work and

1494
01:20:42.479 --> 01:20:44.199
I saw one of these things walk right in front

1495
01:20:44.199 --> 01:20:46.560
of me. Did I kind of see that a little bit,

1496
01:20:47.279 --> 01:20:48.760
but it was just a big giant shadow.

1497
01:20:48.840 --> 01:20:49.720
I don't know what that was.

1498
01:20:50.680 --> 01:20:57.199
I want to see hair eyes, you know, the shine

1499
01:20:57.239 --> 01:20:59.359
from the eyes. I want to see its mouth open.

1500
01:20:59.399 --> 01:21:02.079
I want to see it's I want to see. But

1501
01:21:02.239 --> 01:21:04.960
in a car driving, if I'm out in the woods

1502
01:21:05.000 --> 01:21:07.079
where I used to go and one of these things

1503
01:21:07.159 --> 01:21:11.720
is there, I don't think that I'm quite ready for that.

1504
01:21:14.199 --> 01:21:16.720
But then again, I've been listening to these shows for

1505
01:21:16.800 --> 01:21:18.920
a long time, and I've been listening to these interviews

1506
01:21:18.960 --> 01:21:23.000
for a long time, and very rarely have I ever

1507
01:21:23.119 --> 01:21:25.960
heard of them actually hurting anybody.

1508
01:21:27.479 --> 01:21:28.159
I have heard it.

1509
01:21:28.560 --> 01:21:31.920
It's just extremely rare. And again it goes back to

1510
01:21:32.359 --> 01:21:34.880
what they did to me, and I saw how great

1511
01:21:34.920 --> 01:21:38.199
they are with throwing. If they wanted to kill me,

1512
01:21:38.199 --> 01:21:41.920
they would have killed me already. I'm kind of yeah,

1513
01:21:41.960 --> 01:21:44.279
they could have easily, especially that one rock dude, that

1514
01:21:44.359 --> 01:21:46.880
was the size of freaking basketball. I don't know how

1515
01:21:48.239 --> 01:21:50.319
I told you know, you've got to be careful who

1516
01:21:50.359 --> 01:21:52.920
you open up to about this stuff, So you kind

1517
01:21:52.960 --> 01:21:56.880
of find a friend that's open to certain things, like

1518
01:21:56.960 --> 01:21:58.000
do you believe in aliens?

1519
01:21:58.239 --> 01:21:58.399
Oh?

1520
01:21:58.760 --> 01:22:02.279
Oh yeah, I wouldn't it, And I have a whole

1521
01:22:02.359 --> 01:22:04.479
nother theory in aliens. I don't think they're actually.

1522
01:22:04.239 --> 01:22:09.079
That good, But anyway, you try to open up the

1523
01:22:09.159 --> 01:22:11.479
people and then I'm like, no, what are you doing.

1524
01:22:11.560 --> 01:22:14.199
You're like, okay, you know what, never mind, I'm done.

1525
01:22:14.439 --> 01:22:17.239
You know, like there's no point.

1526
01:22:18.399 --> 01:22:23.720
So I'm kind of it's almost like living I'll put

1527
01:22:23.760 --> 01:22:27.399
it this way. I'm sure other veterans could relate to this,

1528
01:22:28.720 --> 01:22:31.439
or cops or anybody that's been through something really really bad.

1529
01:22:32.399 --> 01:22:35.920
You are the only person, most likely in your immediate

1530
01:22:36.039 --> 01:22:40.520
family or group setting, work setting, whatever, that's gonna know

1531
01:22:41.520 --> 01:22:43.600
what you went through, and you're gonna be the only

1532
01:22:43.720 --> 01:22:48.880
person that has had that experience. So it's you kind

1533
01:22:48.920 --> 01:22:52.199
of feel like an outcast because no one else is

1534
01:22:52.239 --> 01:22:55.479
gonna get you. Now you add this into it, this

1535
01:22:55.640 --> 01:22:59.680
is fairytale stuff to people. This is yeah, yeah, yeah,

1536
01:22:59.760 --> 01:23:03.560
one of your nuts. Just go where you're drinking.

1537
01:23:04.119 --> 01:23:05.720
No, and like every other thing.

1538
01:23:06.680 --> 01:23:09.000
I don't know anybody that's hallucinated off of drink, So

1539
01:23:10.279 --> 01:23:13.199
I don't know, man, It's kind of like once you

1540
01:23:13.279 --> 01:23:14.840
get it, and this is kind of like a curse.

1541
01:23:15.399 --> 01:23:18.239
It's not a horrible, evil curse that it's like ruined

1542
01:23:18.279 --> 01:23:21.399
your life. I mean, I'm sure that there are people

1543
01:23:21.479 --> 01:23:23.800
that actually have had this ruin their life. I mean

1544
01:23:23.920 --> 01:23:26.600
in a way it is, I guess to me because

1545
01:23:26.600 --> 01:23:30.319
I can't go in the wood by myself anymore, so

1546
01:23:30.600 --> 01:23:32.399
I guess it did kind of, but I'm not going

1547
01:23:32.479 --> 01:23:35.119
to dwell on it. It's just one of my hobbies.

1548
01:23:35.159 --> 01:23:38.279
Went down the toilet, right, That's all I can, yeah say.

1549
01:23:39.079 --> 01:23:46.399
It definitely affects different people in different ways, sometimes way

1550
01:23:46.520 --> 01:23:50.359
worse than others. And it is interesting how there's seems

1551
01:23:50.399 --> 01:23:53.800
to be a pattern where, you know, people that have

1552
01:23:54.039 --> 01:24:03.840
had some heavy traumatic Oh no way, really, Oh man,

1553
01:24:04.000 --> 01:24:04.520
I can.

1554
01:24:09.199 --> 01:24:10.680
Your call has been forwarded.

1555
01:24:12.960 --> 01:24:18.239
This is the wildest interview of all time. Let's try again.

1556
01:24:21.039 --> 01:24:24.119
Your call has been forwarded to an automatic voice message.

1557
01:24:29.880 --> 01:24:34.159
Your call has been forwarded to an automatic voice message system. Seven.

1558
01:24:42.079 --> 01:24:44.439
Yeah, there goes the phone again, Jordan. That was really.

1559
01:24:45.359 --> 01:24:47.720
I was like, there's no way that just happened. Again,

1560
01:24:47.960 --> 01:24:48.800
Holy mackerel.

1561
01:24:48.920 --> 01:24:52.159
Yeah, I did, Okay, that was that was on my landline. Dude,

1562
01:24:52.199 --> 01:24:54.920
There's no way that, dude. Listen, I've lived here for

1563
01:24:55.039 --> 01:24:57.520
thirty years. That is the same phone number I've had.

1564
01:24:57.920 --> 01:25:01.079
That's not the same phone. That phone has been in

1565
01:25:01.159 --> 01:25:06.840
the same spot for three decades. I have never ever

1566
01:25:07.399 --> 01:25:10.279
had this happen ever, in my entire life. And the

1567
01:25:10.399 --> 01:25:13.520
phone again when I when you cut out, I looked

1568
01:25:13.520 --> 01:25:16.359
at it. It never hung up. Well, it kept counting,

1569
01:25:16.760 --> 01:25:19.920
It kept counting the minutes, the phone never went and nothing.

1570
01:25:20.000 --> 01:25:24.560
Dude, it's it's so weird, you man, you definitely have

1571
01:25:24.720 --> 01:25:28.640
some pretty intense stuff going on. I mean, that's one

1572
01:25:28.680 --> 01:25:30.319
way to look at it. I would I would say

1573
01:25:30.520 --> 01:25:36.199
there's probably some intense stuff going on. Oh man, I

1574
01:25:36.279 --> 01:25:36.520
don't know.

1575
01:25:37.000 --> 01:25:39.079
So here's my question to you. You've been doing this

1576
01:25:39.199 --> 01:25:41.560
a lot longer than me, and you've known a lot.

1577
01:25:41.960 --> 01:25:44.880
You have heard. There's stuff I haven't even fully touched

1578
01:25:44.920 --> 01:25:48.039
your whole catalog of what you've done. Okay, so you've

1579
01:25:48.840 --> 01:25:53.319
heard everything and everything. Okay, what do you really make

1580
01:25:53.600 --> 01:25:54.920
of that phone?

1581
01:25:55.199 --> 01:25:58.359
Usually? What so I hear from an a lot of

1582
01:25:58.439 --> 01:26:06.279
other podcasters that have phone issues and usually so that's

1583
01:26:06.319 --> 01:26:07.960
the weird thing because usually when it happens on my

1584
01:26:08.119 --> 01:26:11.319
show is they're starting to talk about the person is

1585
01:26:11.359 --> 01:26:18.520
starting to talk about we're more fringe topics like giants

1586
01:26:19.079 --> 01:26:22.920
or nephylum or stuff where it's like they you know,

1587
01:26:24.680 --> 01:26:28.760
they in quotation marks, really don't want that out there.

1588
01:26:29.760 --> 01:26:33.239
So it's weird though, because you know yours. You haven't been.

1589
01:26:34.600 --> 01:26:37.760
I mean, I just I can't figure it out. You know,

1590
01:26:37.920 --> 01:26:39.159
it's it's it's very.

1591
01:26:39.159 --> 01:26:42.479
I think it's because, yes it is. I think it's

1592
01:26:42.560 --> 01:26:45.920
because this is a very wealthy area and there's a

1593
01:26:46.000 --> 01:26:50.479
lot of money around here. I mean, you got the cape,

1594
01:26:50.680 --> 01:26:54.640
you got like I work and wear him, so you

1595
01:26:54.720 --> 01:26:58.159
got on set all that stuff. Rochester, where I live,

1596
01:26:58.960 --> 01:27:01.119
we don't even have a street like dude, like there's

1597
01:27:01.239 --> 01:27:05.319
like they keep this, Yeah, they keep this. The houses

1598
01:27:05.359 --> 01:27:07.760
around here are going for. This used to be like

1599
01:27:07.840 --> 01:27:10.840
a redneck town. There was a blue collar town. Now

1600
01:27:10.920 --> 01:27:14.199
it's all doctors and lawyers that work in Boston that

1601
01:27:14.760 --> 01:27:16.640
you know, they don't mind driving an hour to work

1602
01:27:16.760 --> 01:27:21.720
or they remotely work. So this became a very ritzy town.

1603
01:27:21.960 --> 01:27:23.840
I live in a very ritzy town, and it was

1604
01:27:24.000 --> 01:27:26.760
not like that when I was a child at all.

1605
01:27:27.039 --> 01:27:32.159
So I'm wondering if money has to do with this.

1606
01:27:32.359 --> 01:27:35.800
I get really frustrated with what's going on because obviously

1607
01:27:35.880 --> 01:27:37.359
the world's not the way it's supposed to be, and

1608
01:27:37.439 --> 01:27:40.079
obviously we've been lied to. I mean, you can get

1609
01:27:40.119 --> 01:27:43.600
into what's going on on the I mean, the news

1610
01:27:43.720 --> 01:27:47.439
is full of the news is garbage anyways. But you

1611
01:27:47.600 --> 01:27:50.439
look at you know, I voted for Trump now now,

1612
01:27:50.680 --> 01:27:53.239
oh yeah, we're gonna get the files now, Oh nope,

1613
01:27:53.279 --> 01:27:56.319
they don't need to. So what are you hiding? What

1614
01:27:56.399 --> 01:27:58.399
do you what are you all playing this game? You

1615
01:27:58.520 --> 01:28:01.359
all hold these secrets to the world, and where as

1616
01:28:01.439 --> 01:28:06.439
a human human race, we're not allowed. We're not we're

1617
01:28:06.479 --> 01:28:09.439
not worthy of knowing all this stuff. So what I

1618
01:28:09.479 --> 01:28:13.840
think it's getting through is the veil is getting really thin. Yeah,

1619
01:28:13.880 --> 01:28:16.319
and people are starting to wake up and they don't

1620
01:28:16.439 --> 01:28:20.159
like it, and it's scaring them because now you know

1621
01:28:20.279 --> 01:28:22.880
they did they played the left and the right, and

1622
01:28:23.119 --> 01:28:27.479
now people are starting to go, hey, they screwed me over. Yeah,

1623
01:28:27.520 --> 01:28:32.520
they screwed me too. Well really exactly. Oh well, oh geez, well,

1624
01:28:32.640 --> 01:28:34.880
you know what, I don't hate you anymore. I think

1625
01:28:34.960 --> 01:28:38.640
we have this common enemy. Oh really, that's the common enemy.

1626
01:28:38.720 --> 01:28:40.760
It's the people that hold the secrets. And I don't

1627
01:28:40.880 --> 01:28:43.199
like it and it bothers meself. I'm not afraid of them.

1628
01:28:43.399 --> 01:28:44.239
I'm not afraid of them.

1629
01:28:44.720 --> 01:28:49.479
It's it's it's wild, wild stuff, Jordan, and man, like

1630
01:28:49.640 --> 01:28:55.119
you're I can percent say, like your your story is

1631
01:28:55.279 --> 01:28:58.359
not just in the past thing like, there's probably going

1632
01:28:58.439 --> 01:29:00.880
to be stuff that continue to happen.

1633
01:29:01.640 --> 01:29:03.840
If I went out right now, if I went out

1634
01:29:03.920 --> 01:29:06.039
right to where I was at and I stayed till dusk,

1635
01:29:06.479 --> 01:29:08.760
I'm going to have something happen to me. And that's

1636
01:29:08.800 --> 01:29:10.720
what I know, and that's what stops me from doing it.

1637
01:29:10.800 --> 01:29:14.800
It's not like it's not paranoia anymore. It's a fact,

1638
01:29:16.119 --> 01:29:17.840
you know what I mean. It's just a fact that

1639
01:29:18.600 --> 01:29:21.159
that's what sucks, dude. And I'm stuck now. So when

1640
01:29:21.159 --> 01:29:23.199
I want to go fishing, I have to go in

1641
01:29:23.520 --> 01:29:27.680
highly public areas because they won't do it there. So

1642
01:29:27.800 --> 01:29:29.800
it's like, okay, I got to drive down to the

1643
01:29:30.800 --> 01:29:33.840
So I don't care who I've already you know, I've

1644
01:29:33.880 --> 01:29:37.680
already gaven away a bunch of places. So around here,

1645
01:29:38.840 --> 01:29:41.800
everybody goes to this place called the Lakes, and that's

1646
01:29:41.880 --> 01:29:46.479
down in Lakeville Middleborough Line, and it's technically one big lake,

1647
01:29:46.560 --> 01:29:48.720
but they divided it with a causeway and it's the

1648
01:29:48.800 --> 01:29:52.600
quitt Kiss Little quitt Kiss ask a WM set that stuff.

1649
01:29:54.039 --> 01:29:57.039
If I go out, that's where that stuff happened. And

1650
01:29:57.199 --> 01:29:59.640
if I go out there right now, because these things

1651
01:29:59.720 --> 01:30:01.640
know im, I'm aware of them, I'm going to have

1652
01:30:01.680 --> 01:30:04.680
stuff happen to me and I don't want it to.

1653
01:30:05.039 --> 01:30:07.640
So I feel like I'm a prisoner. So it's like

1654
01:30:07.720 --> 01:30:12.479
I work all day, I work hard, I do a good,

1655
01:30:12.520 --> 01:30:15.159
honest living, and all I want to do is have

1656
01:30:15.319 --> 01:30:18.840
my peace, and I can't have that anymore. And I

1657
01:30:18.920 --> 01:30:23.319
don't think they really mean harm like I said, but

1658
01:30:23.399 --> 01:30:26.119
it's like it's still enough to startle you and just

1659
01:30:26.199 --> 01:30:28.439
to be like, I'm done. I don't know what to do.

1660
01:30:28.960 --> 01:30:32.079
I even actually called one of my sergeants from the army.

1661
01:30:32.560 --> 01:30:35.079
I won't mention his name, but he grew up in Oklahoma.

1662
01:30:36.000 --> 01:30:38.279
I think I'm pretty sure it's not Cherokee's chalk Dow.

1663
01:30:39.079 --> 01:30:41.279
And I asked him what to do, and he goes,

1664
01:30:41.319 --> 01:30:43.000
You've got to go out there and leave him something

1665
01:30:43.640 --> 01:30:46.560
and then they'll leave you alone. And I'm like really,

1666
01:30:46.760 --> 01:30:49.159
he goes, yep. I said, okay. Well, even at that,

1667
01:30:49.920 --> 01:30:52.520
I still don't want to risk it. You know.

1668
01:30:54.359 --> 01:30:58.880
Yeah, different people definitely have. You know, that's one that's

1669
01:30:58.920 --> 01:31:02.399
one thing that does usually come up. Some people will

1670
01:31:02.439 --> 01:31:06.159
even you know, use prayer, use the name of Jesus

1671
01:31:06.279 --> 01:31:10.760
Christ in order to say, okay, leave me alone and

1672
01:31:10.920 --> 01:31:13.840
they'll use it. It's really you know, different people end

1673
01:31:13.960 --> 01:31:17.359
up using different things and it has a lot to

1674
01:31:17.439 --> 01:31:19.399
do of like, Okay, what are you putting your faith in.

1675
01:31:19.600 --> 01:31:25.000
It's very strange, but different things do seem to have

1676
01:31:26.199 --> 01:31:30.600
you know, different different things work for different people. It's

1677
01:31:30.960 --> 01:31:34.359
very strange the stories that you hear. But I think

1678
01:31:34.479 --> 01:31:38.439
at this point, you know you don't want things to happen,

1679
01:31:38.560 --> 01:31:41.520
so you're not going out. But it man, imagine if

1680
01:31:41.520 --> 01:31:43.279
you could get to the point where you could kind

1681
01:31:43.319 --> 01:31:47.039
of stop things from happening and then you could go

1682
01:31:47.439 --> 01:31:49.600
enjoy the woods again, right or fishing.

1683
01:31:49.920 --> 01:31:54.800
It's just why are they choosing to Because where I

1684
01:31:54.920 --> 01:31:57.439
go there's people out there at night all the time.

1685
01:31:58.479 --> 01:32:02.039
They're not get involved. So it's it's strange, and it

1686
01:32:02.239 --> 01:32:07.560
comes down back to I'm aware of them, and they

1687
01:32:07.720 --> 01:32:10.000
know that I'm aware of them, so then they're going

1688
01:32:10.079 --> 01:32:12.640
to make their presence known and then I go, okay,

1689
01:32:12.680 --> 01:32:17.079
it's time to go. And what that Native American sergeant

1690
01:32:17.199 --> 01:32:25.199
I had told me was basically, you know they are

1691
01:32:25.279 --> 01:32:27.680
aware of you, and you're aware of them, and now

1692
01:32:27.760 --> 01:32:30.159
you both know each other, and now they want you

1693
01:32:30.239 --> 01:32:32.880
to leave because they're there to do their thing. They're

1694
01:32:32.920 --> 01:32:36.119
there to grab fish, they're there to grab muscles, are

1695
01:32:36.159 --> 01:32:39.880
there to get their their energy or their you know,

1696
01:32:40.039 --> 01:32:44.279
gathering whatever, and they want you out. And okay, so

1697
01:32:44.319 --> 01:32:46.199
why don't you do that to everybody? Why aren't you

1698
01:32:46.319 --> 01:32:48.119
doing that to other people that are there fishing late

1699
01:32:48.159 --> 01:32:50.439
at night. I talked to plenty of guys in the night,

1700
01:32:51.039 --> 01:32:55.560
say hey, you go down there at night? Yeah, anything happen? Nope, Okay,

1701
01:32:56.359 --> 01:33:00.920
So it's just really weird. Why I'm the one that's

1702
01:33:00.960 --> 01:33:03.960
getting bothered. It just it makes no sense.

1703
01:33:04.359 --> 01:33:08.319
Jordan, what what a conversation. I mean I never would

1704
01:33:08.359 --> 01:33:12.119
have thought just stuff like you're experiencing is going on

1705
01:33:12.399 --> 01:33:15.680
in that corner of Massachusetts. I mean, I'm so glad

1706
01:33:15.720 --> 01:33:17.760
that we got connected and that you were able to

1707
01:33:18.640 --> 01:33:22.159
to share what you experienced over the years. And you know, please,

1708
01:33:23.119 --> 01:33:27.239
you know, if stuff does happen in the future, you know,

1709
01:33:27.359 --> 01:33:31.960
please feel free to reach out if you have any updates.

1710
01:33:32.439 --> 01:33:38.880
But yeah, just just such an interesting story. It's intense,

1711
01:33:39.279 --> 01:33:44.319
and man, I hope the best best for you with

1712
01:33:44.399 --> 01:33:46.239
all this. I think you're going to get a handle

1713
01:33:46.319 --> 01:33:50.680
on it even more than you do now. Yeah, for sure.

1714
01:33:51.239 --> 01:33:54.680
Well I hope I do. I just I don't. I

1715
01:33:54.760 --> 01:33:57.600
don't think I'm it's still fresh, dude, I don't think

1716
01:33:57.680 --> 01:34:00.520
I can it's still there. I don't think that I'm

1717
01:34:00.560 --> 01:34:07.359
going to be alone in the woods anytime soon. Definitely

1718
01:34:07.399 --> 01:34:10.000
not at night. That's the thing. I'll go out, I'll

1719
01:34:10.039 --> 01:34:12.439
go out, you know. I mean, here's the other thing.

1720
01:34:13.000 --> 01:34:13.680
Me and Dan.

1721
01:34:15.239 --> 01:34:20.119
Went out in May and looked for antlers and he

1722
01:34:20.159 --> 01:34:21.720
had a gun on them and we were out in

1723
01:34:21.760 --> 01:34:26.640
those same woods and nothing happened. So there's one instance

1724
01:34:26.720 --> 01:34:30.479
where nothing happened, and I pushed my anxiety level to

1725
01:34:30.600 --> 01:34:33.960
the max and we you know, we separated and I

1726
01:34:34.000 --> 01:34:38.600
don't own the firearm and nothing happened. It's okay, there's

1727
01:34:38.640 --> 01:34:41.359
one instance, but I'm not going to make it a

1728
01:34:41.439 --> 01:34:43.399
regular thing. I'll get a handle on it and it

1729
01:34:43.520 --> 01:34:47.960
will be good. I just again, like you said, that's

1730
01:34:48.119 --> 01:34:53.239
something you don't hear from here. And and I hope

1731
01:34:53.680 --> 01:34:56.960
at least this. I hope that if somebody listens to this,

1732
01:34:57.439 --> 01:34:59.800
that's there's going to be people that listen to this

1733
01:35:00.039 --> 01:35:02.479
knows exactly what I'm talking about. There, there's gonna be

1734
01:35:02.520 --> 01:35:05.319
people that are that listen to your show, Like I

1735
01:35:05.439 --> 01:35:07.199
know where that is I know where that is. I

1736
01:35:07.279 --> 01:35:11.880
know where that is, and hopefully one of them has

1737
01:35:11.960 --> 01:35:14.760
had something where I can listen to a future show

1738
01:35:15.600 --> 01:35:18.000
and they're like, oh, I listened to that guy Jordan

1739
01:35:18.119 --> 01:35:22.520
that came on and he gave me the inspiration to

1740
01:35:22.640 --> 01:35:25.399
come on and say this. That way I can hear

1741
01:35:25.479 --> 01:35:29.920
it and know that I'm not totally freaking nutscent.

1742
01:35:30.520 --> 01:35:34.239
And I love when when that works and people pretty

1743
01:35:34.279 --> 01:35:37.960
much encourage other people to come on and ends up

1744
01:35:38.000 --> 01:35:40.640
helping them and it's a it's a back and forth.

1745
01:35:40.800 --> 01:35:44.039
But man, Jordan, thank you so much for coming on

1746
01:35:44.199 --> 01:35:47.199
the show. We will definitely be in touch. Yeah, thank

1747
01:35:47.239 --> 01:35:50.920
you so much for reaching out. Dude, no promn Thanks

1748
01:35:50.960 --> 01:35:54.279
for listening to another episode of Bigfoot Society. And also

1749
01:35:54.359 --> 01:35:58.920
a special thanks to Jordan from Massachusetts, whose episode actually

1750
01:35:59.079 --> 01:36:03.119
in real time, took hours and hours in order to

1751
01:36:03.439 --> 01:36:06.399
be recorded, but was well worth it in the end.

1752
01:36:06.840 --> 01:36:08.960
To those that are listening to the show that might

1753
01:36:09.079 --> 01:36:13.079
not want this to continue, hey, thanks for listening and

1754
01:36:14.560 --> 01:36:17.520
I'm sure you'll be messing up future interviews as well.

1755
01:36:19.000 --> 01:36:22.399
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1756
01:36:22.560 --> 01:36:25.560
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1757
01:36:25.640 --> 01:36:27.359
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1758
01:36:27.399 --> 01:36:30.640
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1759
01:36:30.680 --> 01:36:33.359
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1760
01:36:33.439 --> 01:36:37.159
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1761
01:36:38.239 --> 01:36:43.479
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1762
01:36:43.640 --> 01:36:47.119
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1763
01:36:47.159 --> 01:36:49.439
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1764
01:36:49.479 --> 01:36:52.199
eyes open, trust your gut, and never stop asking what

1765
01:36:52.319 --> 01:36:54.439
else might be out there? And see you in the woods.