Oct. 20, 2025

They’re Not Supposed to Be Here — But I Saw One!

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Season 1

What happens when a man finds sobriety in the high deserts of Southern California — and ends up face to face with something massive, quiet, and watching? In this powerful and wide-ranging episode, we sit down with John, an amateur filmmaker and RC truck hobbyist whose solo desert outings put him directly into the path of a rogue Sasquatch. From secret tunnels in the brush to a deafening roar that silenced a pack of coyotes, John’s experiences stretch across a mysterious “desert triangle” — connecting Yucca Valley, Idyllwild, Desert Hot Springs, and 29 Palms.



But John’s story is only the beginning. In the second half of the episode, we hear chilling encounters from across the U.S.:
— A woman in Nebraska shares a five-year pattern of peaceful Bigfoot visitations along river systems, including the gifting of plush toys and the return of a skull.
— A childhood encounter in Brookdale, California, near the San Lorenzo River, leads one woman decades later to new experiences in the forests of Mount Shasta.
— A family in Indiana sees a massive orange-and-yellow striped creature walking near a lake before the 4th of July.
— In Colorado’s Rio Grande National Forest near Bear Creek, a man recalls his senior trip in the 1980s — when pinecones rained down on tents, grunts echoed through the trees, and a flashlight revealed not one, but two upright creatures watching from the hillside.
— And in Georgia’s Chattahoochee National Forest, a solo camper is bluff charged at night by something heavy, fast, and very close.



These aren’t just campfire tales — they’re firsthand accounts of how the unexplained can break into everyday life. Desert or forest, river or mountain — the stories are out there. And they’re closer than you think.

Resources:

John's channel - https://www.youtube.com/@rabbitlodgeracing


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You're listening to Big for Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron.

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In this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to

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bring you first hand encounters from people who say they've

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seen something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers

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to quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere,

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and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.

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These are the voices of the people who've lived it.

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To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that

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just might change the way you see the woods forever.

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So stay with us, all right, Big for the Society.

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We have the privilege of talking to John today. John

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is an outdoorsman and amateur filmmaker who reached out to

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me about some things he's experienced and maybe even heard

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from southern California. So welcome to the show. John. How

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are you doing today, sir?

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I'm doing okay. How you doing, Jeremiah? Thank you for

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having me in advance here. It's good to be able

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to share a few things here with you.

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Absolutely, the area southern California doesn't get brought up a

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lot on the show, so it's exciting to have you

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on to hear what is going on down there. I

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think maybe the most we've heard down there is Crestline

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and Lake Arrowhead has come up a few times down

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there by San Bernardino. But I'm sure there's more going

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on than just that, for sure.

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Oh yeah, there's a there's it's just in silly terms.

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I call it like a little desert triangle because where

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you just mentioned it's just about west of me, and

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it's just this thing that happens this often. But for

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starters from back what you said right now, I was

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the same way. I didn't know, and it wasn't until

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later on and we'll get into that where I actually

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was like looked at the Bigfoot map online. I'm not

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sure if it was BFRO, but I think it's just

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the Bigfoot map. But yeah, there's dots all over the place,

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all through here, and then that obviously opened up the

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wormhole and it's pretty cool. Actually, it goes all the

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way back to the sixties and stuff, So it's wild.

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Yeah, absolutely, So what got you into the subject to

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begin with? John?

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It's silly, and I'm glad that we're having this this

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episode here, because one thing to get before we get started.

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Every time. I'm a huge fan of this and it

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didn't start it didn't start like that at all, but

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just in a nutshelly but I noticed that anytime, you know,

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when the desert came up, I don't know it just

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I set my fork down when I'm listening to the show,

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I'm like, desert sasquashed. I heard that a few different times,

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and it was like something that just never got expanded on.

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was telling myself early on, does that mean there's rogue

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ones out here? Are there families? There couldn't be families

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because there's not a whole lot of places to hide.

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up a big wormhole for once you see all those

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little dots show up on the map. But for me,

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in short, it was back in the I'm in my

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forties or whatever, but way back eighties and nineties we

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would always overhear my pops and my uncle kind of

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talking about this Procter Valley place, Proctor Valley. The only

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thing I knew at the time was Harry and the Henderson's.

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we'd always hear about this place called Procter Valley. That

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was the first creepy kind of sign of any sort

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of weird act like that, and they would always mention

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how people would go out there and party. I'm pretty

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sure it's all homes now, but there was always creepy

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stories like that, big things that people would see out there,

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and that right away always kept my ears up. But

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after that, even then, as a kid and getting into

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my teenage years, I was always pretty pretty adamant about it.

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That sort of thing, if it even exists, is only

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going to be up in Norcow. I've heard a lot

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of your guests say that before, and that was me too.

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I was like, I only thought Norcow. And anyways, life

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just glitches and does what it does, especially being in Socow.

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We surf, we skate, we get crazy, we party too much,

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and if we're lucky to make it out, which I was.

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Then this thing happened, and I'm not sure if you

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want to ask me a few more questions before we

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get started, but right around twenty nineteen, something very big

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happened that kind of started this whole journey.

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In a nutshell, I'd say, we can get right into it.

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This sounds very interesting.

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Cool in a nutshell. Yeah, Like I said, that was

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way back in the day, and the fast forward through

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life and girlfriends and everything else I got. I'm very

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open about saying this. I got really heavy into partying

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and taking everything that was in front of me and

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just being a big dummy and having fun, and that's

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all part of it. There was a little window. I

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stopped everything in two twelve, and then I was still

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on medication for anxiety and stuff. That little monkey turned

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into a gorilla on my back in a nutshell, and

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I went to a rehab kind of place, got all

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cleaned up, and right around twenty nineteen, I was just

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really getting bored to going to meetings and hearing everybody

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saw story. So I was just like, okay, cool, we

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need a hobby. I instantly just said, okay, I'm gonna

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go get an our seat truck. I went and got

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an our seat truck. I it was a scale RC

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thing at the time. People were hiking with them. It

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was a great community, very positive. When you could be

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wrenching on a little when you normally you'd be partying.

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Now I'm just wrenching on this little truck. And it

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was a great outlet. I just needed something to fill

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that void. It's a beautiful and a crazy thing over

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time would happened. So what that did for me was

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basically I set down a phone on a water bottle

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and I made a little video and I posted it

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and then boom, it blew up. So that became this addiction,

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not just because it was a hobby, but it was

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really this just void and I had to keep doing it.

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It really was another monkey turning into a gorilla, but

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it was a healthy one. So what that did for

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me was pretty much just put me outside three hundred

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and sixty five days a year, literally rain or shine,

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any holiday, because I wanted the algorithm to love me

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early on, and I'm just trying to be that guy

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just having a bunch of followers and having fun. And

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then I was going to start a little YouTube thing. Anyways,

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Basically it was just being outside. But where I was

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at in twenty nineteen at the time, it was low desert,

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so you have to go on these little cruises to

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go find the real boulders, to go rock crawling with

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these little things, and it was cool and it still is.

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It's basically making little videos that look completely realistic, and

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you got these little trucks, and then when you're done

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getting all this footage, you hop in your vehicle and

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you go home. But you know, it wasn't until a

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little by little, as that page was building and I'm

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outside and I'm sunburned, or it's pouring rain in the winter,

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and I would slowly start to get a little feel.

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I never thought about sasquatching nothing, but I found my

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off Often to find these rocks, I'd have to be

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miles and miles away from homes and stuff. So there

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was a particular moment that I had. I'm out there

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and basically just filming and frustrated. I'm trying to get

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the shot, trying to get as much footage as I

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can at this new particular item or these new axles

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that somebody was giving me for free, making like a

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little commercial form. So it was almost like a job too.

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It was great, but little by little I started feeling watched,

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and that started. Why am I feeling paranoid out here?

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It's beautiful? And that started, like they had. Occasionally, I'd

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maybe get a little pebble that would just fall out

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of nowhere, and I'd be like, what was that. I

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wasn't really open to that sort of thing at the time,

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so I'm just going, Okay, maybe that was just a

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bird flew over with a big old pebble. I don't know.

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There wasn't until this particular time where I saw these

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rocks over this area of tall brush. By the way,

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excuse my terminology. My brother hunts a lot, but I'm

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not much into hunting, so I don't know terminology about

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certain types of brush and stuff. But basically the brush

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was probably seven eight feet maybe nine feet tall in

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this big old area. But beyond that brush, I saw

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these big, old, white, beautiful rocks. I'm like, blue sky

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white rocks, tires gripping will make a nice little satisfying video,

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maybe get a bunch of views. Just being my nerdy

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cell trying to stay out of trouble. And that's where

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it started. So I went into there, and right when

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I entered with my truck, and it's funny looking back,

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I can only imagine these sasquatch and maybe a young

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one going what is that? What is that guy doing

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out here with this little trucks? And I don't know,

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I just always got this feeling, but it wasn't until

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this place that I walked in and instead of just

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going around and walking through right away, after about seven

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feet in, I found myself in this kind of a

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tunnel instead of just going straight to the rocks. Excited

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like an eight year old, I stopped and I'm looking

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around and I felt like I was in an area

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where something passes through. And I'm really smart with mountain

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lion vibes and footprint and whatnot or hoofprints and whatnot,

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but it was all pressed down. It was definitely something

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humans didn't do. And then my brain was trying to

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catch it. I'm like, maybe the wind comes through here

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in a weird spiral and causes a big old tunnel.

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I don't know, but I remember right away just finding

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these things in these little areas where there might have

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been a little pile to the left of one time

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there was in this little tunnel, and the tunnel I

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call it a tunnel, but it's really just brushed. That

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was probably something passing through there a lot, and we'll

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get to that, but at the time, I'm really confused,

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and I would see these random little piles and I'm

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thinking hobos and stuff. But where I'm talking about and

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we'll get into the map here in a second where

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these locations are. But you know where I was at.

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There's no homeless people, there's no there's only maybe retired

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people at these scattered houses up in the hills near

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these mountains out behind the desert. And right away I

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saw this little pile up There was a Buddha and

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there's some little old hot wheels and some random things.

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But there was a few different piles of this every

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ten feet and I was like, whatever. I didn't think

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sasquatch at the time, but I'm definitely that was one

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of the first experiences where I'm definitely feeling odd and off.

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And I remember that whole time. I think I just

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filmed my truck for ten minutes to get a clip

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to edit later, and I just went home. It was

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like a stomach kind of weird vibe. And looking back,

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I can easily see how they would pass through from

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one location to the other, maybe late at night, and

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I don't know, I just this is one of the

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reasons we're doing the show here. I have many things

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I can't explain, but it was definitely some sort of

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pathway where they go, and I'll explain that here in

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a minute of the map what I'm talking about. And

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again at the time, I didn't know that, but just bizarre,

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really bizarre feeling. Again, I'm still sober to this day,

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but even then, I was just going, what is this

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feeling I got? This is strange. I'm not scared. I've

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come up here before, but I've never come across this

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particular area, and that was fascinating. The more I've learned

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up until this point is they learned, they migrate, they

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change around. Sure, they might go through different portals and stuff,

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but I don't know as far as I'm concerned. They

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got blood, they got beating hearts, and they're just magnificent

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little ninjas out there. I don't even know. So, yeah,

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that was one of the first little moments of weirdness.

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I have everything written down here. I hope that's all

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making sense.

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Oh no, it absolutely does. And I think there's more

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going on in these southern California areas that we know of.

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But just to make sure, I guess. So you're I

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do some stuff on TikTok, and so you're one of

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the guys that you're making videos where's it looks like

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a little jeep and you're it's like a crawl and

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you're going up rocks and bridges and stuff and correct.

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And I've met other people who do this and they

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have some cool stories too and about this sort of thing.

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But I'm a loner, lone wolf these days. But yeah,

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essentially it was that, even as I was doing it

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and making those videos, I'm going it really is a

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program that I have to keep running. There was like

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one day I was sick and I didn't film a

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few I didn't film I remember, I just felt weird.

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So it became this thing. But yeah, and in a nutshell,

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the page got swiped off and I'm starting a new one.

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But man, it was so fun for a while, and

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I just had all these little things in the back

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pocket in my back of my brain that I just

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wanted to share because I really was out there constantly.

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The rain shots were the best ones.

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Yeah, that stuff is very cool. I do watch that

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on TikTok. It's very At first you're like this is weird,

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and then you're like, oh, this is actually really cool.

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Oh it's great. And I look at it like a

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little robot next to you. Because if you're walking, you're

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hiking this little tiny truck brings me just this is

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a perfect example. It brings me to these areas I

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would never normally go. And sometimes there's a lot of

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beautiful stories too. And I'm looking around at this view

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and I'm looking down at this truck. I'm like, without you,

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I wouldn't even be out here right now. So this

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little truck, these little trucks I would build that became

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this little I don't know, I'm pretty sure they would

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scare away more rattlesnakes up ahead. If I'm driving the

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truck ten feet in front of me to a mountaine,

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is probably gonna be freaked out by a little electronic things.

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It was also the kind of a safety that that's

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what allowed me to go anywhere. I was never scared

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of animals because I knew that I had this loud, little

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crawler truck or whatever with me at the time, and

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that usually gave me some confidence. But the more I'm learning,

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I'm like, I was probably attracting all the sasquats. They're

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watching this guy with this truck and he's crouched down

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with a little square thing in his hand. What is

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he doing? But I don't know, it's just it's wild,

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it's fun. But yeah, so this all started in a nutshell.

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It's the lower Desert. So we'll go Palm Desert, and

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from Palm Desert you go south and you go up

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to seventy four. And I'm sure at some point you'll

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pull out a map and you know where I'm talking about.

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But I'll just give you a debrief on this location.

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So where this all started twenty nineteen was like seventy four.

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And then right behind the seventy four you got to

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come up out of the low Desert and you boom

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mountains and just thick forest and it's cool, but it's

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just there's no building, there's no houses out that way

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a certain way for a while. Then you come down

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out Westmore and boom, you right it, and you slam

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into Idlewild, which is known for the Idle Beast. I'll

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have a story about that here in a little bit.

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And then if you go excuse my map language, by

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the way, I'm switched around here, but I'm pretty sure. Yeah,

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from Idlewild, let me go out to where you were

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you mentioned in the beginning, which is Big Bear Lake, Arrowhead,

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et cetera. And then in the middle of all that

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you got Yucca Valley, Joshua Tree, and that's predominantly where

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we're at. And then out east we have twenty nine

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Palms and a man by the name of Tim Baker.

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I don't know if you're familiar with him, white Beard,

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very knowledgeable about Sasquatch. He's on a few shows on YouTube.

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This particular man expanded for a little while on twenty

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nine Palms and how they have a bent rifle apparently,

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and their lobby or something. I don't know, but I

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know that there's definitely some stories that span there too,

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about the Sasquatch, Sasquatch messing with Sasquatch, messing with the

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the base out there, and UFOs and all that. Stuff's

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pretty normal out here. But I was fascinated to hear

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Tim Baker mentioned some things about twenty nine Palms way

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back in the day, and twenty nine Palms is way

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more desert, deer, and drier than where I'm at and

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even where I was at before, And that alone was

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just like God, it just it fascinated me. And from

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what I've heard and what I've learned, I'm pretty sure

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they ain't ones are the rogue ones. They go far

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away from the forest, and my particular opinion, just to

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get away and eat deer and hide and stuff. So

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they're a lot more angry in a sense. If I

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had to guess, predominantly the ones he's mentioned out in

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twenty nine Palms, and yeah, that leaves me right in

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the center and Yucca. And then strange things started to

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happen because at the end of two nineteen to twenty

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I moved up to near Joshua Tree Yucca Valley, and yeah,

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then some more things started happening. But I can't really explain,

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but yeah, if you get a chance, look into Tim Baker.

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There's many interviews of him on there. And this guy

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he calls them boogers. He's one of those guys at

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old school. But it's cool. He talks about how he

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was working at the base out there and they get

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real active when they try to shoot off a rocket

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or do some stuff. They noticed there was more activity

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when that would happen. And this sort of thing was

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fascinating me because I'm going, how does the sasquatch Now

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that I'm learning, I'm going, how does the sasquatch survive

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in the desert? Blah blah, blah. I think it was

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your episode a couple of while back that there's a

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lady briefly that I think it was on your show

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and she was of all place talking about Vegas and

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how her and her husband were driving and they saw

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one and down in this water Goalie on a hundred

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more than a hundred degree day, they saw one in

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broad daylight. So this is what I mean. It's a

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cool topic. I'm always fascinated by it. But the one

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thing that kept grabbing me was like, I got to

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know more about this desert thing. What are they doing

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out in the desert. And then I started putting puzzles

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together the tunnel, oh idle, wild, oh triangle. Right, I'm like, okay,

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so they probably passed through certain times of the year.

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If deer's running a deer run out here, or if

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they're squad in the forest out by Big Bear, they

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get into some beef and they have to the big

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rogue ones that have two toes. I don't know they

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I just have a feeling they come out this way.

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It's very complexity, but yeah.

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Yeah, it is very interesting. I did have an individual

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come on the show. It was a short one about

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because it was a TikTok thing about how they saw

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pretty much what people call yuckaman. This was down in

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desert Hot Springs, so Joshua Tree, but a little bit

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to the west.

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That's I'm so glad you brought that up, because I

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have my notes here on this little quote unquote map

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triangle thing I keep mentioning I left out DHS. Now DHS,

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you got Palm Desert where this all started. Where I

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mentioned in the low desert Yucca Valley is high desert

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hour drive half hour drive ish, okay, and then you

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got Idlewild. DHS is pretty much in the center of

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all this. And the thing that fascinated me more when

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I when that sasquatch thing came to my brain, especially

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hearing Tim Baker talk, I was like, okay, let's think.

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Sure enough, right on the map in DHS, there's a story.

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And where this guy's talking about is literally sand dunes

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where I used to fill my RCA cars with paddle tires.

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So that was great with my girl glow pros and

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the slow motion stuff. It wasn't always crawling. I'd go

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out there and take a trophy truck and throw some

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paddles on it, get some slow most shots. But it

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was fascinated to hear that in nineteen I want to say,

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nineteen seventy, maybe seventy three. I could be off there.

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You'll see it on the big Foot map. In DHS.

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There is a man in his Volkswagon that basically his

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Volkswagen low beams were only at a certain point, but

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he saw this huge thing these I'm pretty sure he said.

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It looked like a piece of plywood or refrigerator, I forget,

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but this huge hairy thing that and that he noticed

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that he saw down there, and you can read up

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on that. You'll see it Desert Hot Spring or Desert

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Hot Springs, California on the map there. But it's and

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as I'm learning more, and from a helicopter view if

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you will, DHS is right in the middle. One could

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have been passing from Idlewild in the middle of the

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night going up to the high desert. For some deer

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could have been walking through to Lake Arrowhead. By the way,

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this whole desert topic. I know half the comments are

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going to be like, yeah, take another hit, pallet, trust me.

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I was the same way. But man, I saw how

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serious Tim Baker was on these things, and I'm starting

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to collect more a little interesting things that were happening,

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and I'm like, I think it's quite the opposite. And

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then yeah, the yucka man that's the government or whatever's

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real quick to block that out and just make a

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silly little thing with a man in a suit and

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blah blah blah. But that's got a stem from some

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real stuff. And it's just it's eerie even because the

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hair that they're describing as that sand color, and I

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can see how quickly it would just blend, it would

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blend in really well. It's so, yeah, you got the

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yuckaman one, you got the one in DHS, and I

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think there's a few. There's definitely a bunch of dots

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around idlewild, a bunch of dots out more by a

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big bear and all that. And yeah, we're right in

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the middle of it all. It's pretty wild. It's cool.

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I don't let it surround my brain twenty four to seven.

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But when I do it now, I'm definitely a little

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more respectful. I walk up right when I get out

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of my truck, and I am I not even beating

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tall trees around. I still say, hey, guys, just here

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to observe and enjoy the land, get some fresh air.

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I don't mean anybody any harm. I still do that

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because I've heard so many little hippie ladies on the

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Bigfoot Show say that's good to do that, So I

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just take little notes. I don't want to disrespect these things.

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You have a story on your show where this guy

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broad daylight. He was hiking in that one with two toes.

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There was a female here staring at and this one

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with two toes walks up to him and it's screaming

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on screaming at him, and he's curled up in a

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ball like broad Daylight on a trail. Things happen. But

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I just have a feeling though, if there's any up here,

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they're probably the rogue ones. Until I get to a

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story that happened not long after I moved up here

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that reminded me. I don't think it's all rogue ones.

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So what you mentioned that you've experienced some weird things

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in Yucca Valley.

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Yeah, I moved up here. We moved up here at

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the end maybe two twenty ish, and new home. This

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isn't this is still not watching much of the a

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whole lot of the Bigfoot stuff yet, just just getting

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settled in, still doing the making the movies and stuff.

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There are weird things that I couldn't explain. I'm about

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to mention. It usually happened in winter springish. It's just

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a thing, And that makes perfect sense because it was

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wintertime and springtime that I was hiking maybe I don't know,

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two miles behind my house here again from a helicopter view,

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right behind Yucca Valley to maybe the north and all

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around you'll see on a map that it's pretty much

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just miles and miles of mountains and just all kinds

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of nothing.

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Right.

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It was, it was like this thing that I started

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noticing more in winter and spring there was more weirdness.

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And I was up there and I saw these two

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I'm not good with names of these animals. Sometimes you

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can laugh. That's all right. I'm an old burnout musician,

450
00:20:09.160 --> 00:20:11.519
film or guy. But it's funny because there's these two

451
00:20:11.559 --> 00:20:14.839
deers that ran by me broad daylight. And I'm a

452
00:20:14.880 --> 00:20:17.599
big guy, and these the deer's back ends were probably

453
00:20:17.640 --> 00:20:20.039
up to my shoulder and that told day ran right

454
00:20:20.079 --> 00:20:22.720
by me. They split right around me, sure them mountain

455
00:20:22.759 --> 00:20:25.720
lying something chasing them, Maybe our hairy friend who knows.

456
00:20:25.759 --> 00:20:27.920
But it was crazy how they ran by me. But

457
00:20:27.960 --> 00:20:30.079
I instantly realized where I moved. I'm like, it's a

458
00:20:30.119 --> 00:20:33.000
little more wild up here in the high desert. Okay, Okay,

459
00:20:33.240 --> 00:20:34.799
I just put that in the back of my brain

460
00:20:35.039 --> 00:20:36.880
in a nutshell. But I noticed I would see more

461
00:20:36.920 --> 00:20:39.200
animals that time of the year. And then I'm putting

462
00:20:39.240 --> 00:20:41.559
things together. I'm like, it seems like maybe they just

463
00:20:41.720 --> 00:20:44.880
all the campers come out to big barren, snowboarders, snow bunnies.

464
00:20:44.880 --> 00:20:46.519
Maybe they come out this way in the winter to

465
00:20:46.519 --> 00:20:48.960
get away from the humans. I don't know, it makes

466
00:20:49.000 --> 00:20:52.640
perfect sense, absolutely.

467
00:20:52.759 --> 00:20:56.000
And you've mentioned Idlewild a few times, which I have

468
00:20:56.160 --> 00:20:59.200
heard of that, but I'm not extremely familiar with that.

469
00:20:59.240 --> 00:21:02.359
I haven't talked to anyone about that area either yet.

470
00:21:02.799 --> 00:21:05.359
What are things that you've heard from that area?

471
00:21:06.640 --> 00:21:08.480
I'll tell you what if I might. This was my

472
00:21:08.519 --> 00:21:10.279
first time doing one of these things, so I kind

473
00:21:10.279 --> 00:21:13.400
of tree branched off on a different thing there. So Yuka, yes,

474
00:21:13.480 --> 00:21:15.359
I moved up here, and we'll get right into Idlewold

475
00:21:15.400 --> 00:21:18.039
because the story little line that I have here, there

476
00:21:18.079 --> 00:21:20.279
was a couple of interesting things that happened out there,

477
00:21:20.440 --> 00:21:22.160
and that was right around when I got more into

478
00:21:22.240 --> 00:21:26.519
watching these shows and stuff. Okay, Yucca High Desert. Here

479
00:21:26.559 --> 00:21:28.079
we go. I don't know if this was a month

480
00:21:28.160 --> 00:21:30.359
or two into the maybe even a little longer. Into

481
00:21:30.400 --> 00:21:33.039
this house one night and then, by the way, there's

482
00:21:33.079 --> 00:21:35.880
no this time of year, there was Airbnb's just starting

483
00:21:35.880 --> 00:21:38.079
at the time. There's no partiers, there's no people up

484
00:21:38.160 --> 00:21:40.799
late at night up here. It's all retired people at

485
00:21:40.799 --> 00:21:43.640
this part of the town, and it's very quiet and mellow.

486
00:21:43.720 --> 00:21:45.240
This is just one thing I had to write down.

487
00:21:45.400 --> 00:21:47.119
I'm told it's good to do those things. Those things

488
00:21:47.119 --> 00:21:50.720
you can't explain. And we're sleeping and one night passed.

489
00:21:51.200 --> 00:21:53.559
My house is set up from a helicopter view. Again,

490
00:21:54.079 --> 00:21:56.640
it's set up to where a coyote, for instance, could

491
00:21:56.960 --> 00:21:58.960
run off the run into the side of my house,

492
00:21:59.039 --> 00:22:01.519
going through the big back yard, which is maybe quarter

493
00:22:01.559 --> 00:22:04.119
acre ish, and he could come around and go back

494
00:22:04.160 --> 00:22:06.359
out the front. I'm just giving you a little visual

495
00:22:06.759 --> 00:22:09.519
of what that is or how my place is set up.

496
00:22:09.599 --> 00:22:11.920
One night, there was a little random thing where it

497
00:22:11.960 --> 00:22:15.279
was dead winter cold. You can hear the occasional alhoots

498
00:22:15.279 --> 00:22:18.440
out there. Love it, And I was just going to sleep,

499
00:22:18.960 --> 00:22:22.799
and something ran by the window enough to not just

500
00:22:22.920 --> 00:22:25.880
shake the bed frame and shake the window and shake

501
00:22:25.960 --> 00:22:28.759
the wall a little bit. But it was so bizarre

502
00:22:28.799 --> 00:22:31.200
because it wasn't like a cook clunk like a horse

503
00:22:31.400 --> 00:22:33.799
or which would just really be a deer or maybe

504
00:22:33.799 --> 00:22:37.759
a pack of coyotes or something. This was basically the

505
00:22:37.799 --> 00:22:40.720
sound of something that might have been maybe and I know,

506
00:22:40.839 --> 00:22:43.200
I just I have to share this. This had been

507
00:22:43.240 --> 00:22:47.559
something that was maybe three four feet tall, but had

508
00:22:47.640 --> 00:22:50.480
to have been maybe three hundred pounds two hundred pounds.

509
00:22:50.680 --> 00:22:52.880
But this strange thing about this was and I had

510
00:22:52.920 --> 00:22:54.640
to remember this is where it all started. Was the

511
00:22:55.240 --> 00:22:59.039
footsteps were very fast, but they were so close together

512
00:22:59.079 --> 00:23:01.799
and they were bipedal. So it was like and there's

513
00:23:01.880 --> 00:23:04.000
videos that have leaked recently. Whether they're real or not,

514
00:23:04.039 --> 00:23:05.680
I don't know, but we've heard a lot of stories

515
00:23:05.680 --> 00:23:07.799
when they when they run like spiders or they get

516
00:23:07.839 --> 00:23:11.119
down on their fingers or so in my brain, I'm going, Okay,

517
00:23:11.119 --> 00:23:13.519
maybe because we're surrounded by mountains. I'm looking at a

518
00:23:13.559 --> 00:23:15.720
mountain right here outside of our house, and maybe the

519
00:23:15.759 --> 00:23:17.400
parents are up at the top and send a couple

520
00:23:17.440 --> 00:23:18.960
of the little young ones down there to chase some

521
00:23:19.079 --> 00:23:21.759
rabbits and get some meat, maybe run through the houses.

522
00:23:21.839 --> 00:23:24.000
I don't know, but it's enough to write down because

523
00:23:24.000 --> 00:23:26.000
there was no people that time of year. It was

524
00:23:26.319 --> 00:23:28.839
middle of the night and whatever was heavy enough to

525
00:23:28.880 --> 00:23:30.559
shake the side of the house and kept me up

526
00:23:30.599 --> 00:23:32.839
for a while, like what the heck was that? So

527
00:23:33.160 --> 00:23:35.319
that was just something where it started a little weirdness

528
00:23:35.319 --> 00:23:37.519
and I'm slowly more and more realizing I'm in a

529
00:23:37.519 --> 00:23:39.720
lot more wild of an area, if that makes sense.

530
00:23:41.000 --> 00:23:43.559
And then right around then there was there was those

531
00:23:43.599 --> 00:23:46.880
cold windy nights dead December January. It's known to snow

532
00:23:46.920 --> 00:23:49.279
up here too, and by the way too. I was

533
00:23:49.279 --> 00:23:51.440
always told where there's where there's deer and stuff, there

534
00:23:51.480 --> 00:23:53.519
could be sas squatch. So then my light bulb was

535
00:23:53.559 --> 00:23:56.119
slowly going on. At this time, I wasn't watching the

536
00:23:56.119 --> 00:23:58.519
shows quite yet as much, but there was a cold,

537
00:23:58.559 --> 00:24:00.880
windy nights and there's no sky up here. You can

538
00:24:00.920 --> 00:24:03.279
research that. But a couple of different times I'd go

539
00:24:03.279 --> 00:24:05.400
outside for a smoke in the front and thereould just

540
00:24:05.440 --> 00:24:08.640
be this putrid smell. It wasn't trash day or nothing.

541
00:24:08.759 --> 00:24:13.519
It was just this strange thing. So in my personal hypothesis.

542
00:24:13.599 --> 00:24:15.480
I feel like certain times of the year they come

543
00:24:15.519 --> 00:24:18.240
out here get away from all the snow bunnies and

544
00:24:18.279 --> 00:24:21.000
whatever else. Maybe they come out here to maybe train

545
00:24:21.079 --> 00:24:23.359
there young, to do something different. I don't know, but

546
00:24:23.799 --> 00:24:26.799
it's definitely something where I think they definitely lurk through

547
00:24:26.839 --> 00:24:28.680
in those cold nights. And that would be such a

548
00:24:28.720 --> 00:24:31.200
cool painting of this big old rogue one that's just

549
00:24:31.240 --> 00:24:33.960
standing there overlooking at all these houses and stuff. Because

550
00:24:34.000 --> 00:24:36.119
right where our line is where our houses are at

551
00:24:36.319 --> 00:24:38.880
the mountain start, it just goes for miles and miles

552
00:24:38.960 --> 00:24:41.960
and it's still high desert, but it's technically still mountain,

553
00:24:41.960 --> 00:24:45.519
if that makes sense. So that's one of just these

554
00:24:45.559 --> 00:24:47.839
little strange things were starting to happen a little bit

555
00:24:47.880 --> 00:24:50.799
that I enough for me to remember. And so yeah,

556
00:24:50.799 --> 00:24:53.240
there's always a creepy feeling too back there, and I'm gonna,

557
00:24:53.559 --> 00:24:55.799
I said, scrap and be crazy. It was nothing like

558
00:24:55.839 --> 00:24:57.759
I was scared of anything else, except for just this

559
00:24:57.880 --> 00:25:00.000
feeling your stomach with bubble in some of these areas

560
00:25:00.160 --> 00:25:02.240
is kind of like a vibe just to get out

561
00:25:02.279 --> 00:25:04.680
and Okay, So right around then I went for a cruise.

562
00:25:04.720 --> 00:25:06.759
I started watching some of the shows, and I did

563
00:25:06.759 --> 00:25:09.079
a little research and apparently idle while. Yeah, there was

564
00:25:09.279 --> 00:25:11.279
there's a little talk about it there. There's even a

565
00:25:11.279 --> 00:25:15.480
little shop that's all kind of sasquatch stuff, and you

566
00:25:15.599 --> 00:25:17.400
google it. They're very quick to just put a guy

567
00:25:17.440 --> 00:25:19.440
in a costume and make you just turn away. And

568
00:25:19.720 --> 00:25:21.599
but it turns out that there's a ho was at

569
00:25:21.640 --> 00:25:23.759
a gas station, for instance, and I was just getting

570
00:25:23.799 --> 00:25:25.920
the bug, getting the light bulb on about this topic.

571
00:25:26.000 --> 00:25:28.240
And it was a drive I wanted to do, let's

572
00:25:28.240 --> 00:25:30.279
go check it out type thing, and I pulled into

573
00:25:30.279 --> 00:25:32.440
this gas station, nice lady, an old hippie lady, and

574
00:25:32.519 --> 00:25:34.640
I said, you ever hear any sounds, any weird cries

575
00:25:34.640 --> 00:25:36.599
at night that you can't really explain? And she was

576
00:25:36.720 --> 00:25:38.480
right away. She lit up like a light and she

577
00:25:38.559 --> 00:25:40.359
just went on about all kinds of weird sounds and

578
00:25:40.400 --> 00:25:42.920
things they hear up there. And she was really adamant

579
00:25:42.960 --> 00:25:45.279
about these green lights that they see at the top

580
00:25:45.359 --> 00:25:48.400
and energy and that sort of thing, and these this

581
00:25:48.519 --> 00:25:51.519
mountain there, which is trippy because right after that mountain

582
00:25:51.519 --> 00:25:54.079
it's boom. On the other side it's palm springs, low

583
00:25:54.160 --> 00:25:57.599
desert hot, very hot. But yeah, you go high up enough.

584
00:25:57.759 --> 00:26:00.599
There's snow up there all, so i'd a while. It's

585
00:26:00.680 --> 00:26:03.480
very eerie. There was very cool and beautiful by the

586
00:26:03.519 --> 00:26:05.880
way too. But anytime I was there, i'd stepped maybe

587
00:26:05.960 --> 00:26:07.720
I don't know, one hundred yards in and I just

588
00:26:08.519 --> 00:26:10.839
I don't know, dude, I just want to go. So

589
00:26:10.880 --> 00:26:12.839
I just light a cigarette, walk back to my truck,

590
00:26:12.880 --> 00:26:15.559
and just go. It's just a feeling. But there was

591
00:26:15.599 --> 00:26:17.440
a time and I had a while. I'm glad you

592
00:26:17.480 --> 00:26:19.559
brought that up. I grabbed a little rock that looked

593
00:26:19.599 --> 00:26:22.599
like a crystal. I'm like, that'll be cool in the bathroom. Cool. Great,

594
00:26:22.599 --> 00:26:24.839
this was a nice day. Let's go grab a rock

595
00:26:25.000 --> 00:26:26.759
to remember this day. I went to clear my head.

596
00:26:26.759 --> 00:26:28.960
I was going through a bunch of stuff, one of

597
00:26:28.960 --> 00:26:30.960
those things. Just go for a drive, let's check it out,

598
00:26:31.200 --> 00:26:34.440
maybe have an adventure and come home. And then throughout

599
00:26:34.480 --> 00:26:37.440
this time, I'm watching some shows. But there was this feeling. Man,

600
00:26:37.519 --> 00:26:41.599
it was like like you took something that's not yours.

601
00:26:42.359 --> 00:26:44.880
You need to return that. And I know that's silly.

602
00:26:44.960 --> 00:26:47.960
I have rocks that I collect from hikes and stuff,

603
00:26:48.000 --> 00:26:51.240
but this particular rock was like a vibe. I don't know,

604
00:26:51.319 --> 00:26:53.119
it was in my head, and it wasn't quite voice

605
00:26:53.119 --> 00:26:55.799
speed kind of vibe, but it was more like almost

606
00:26:55.880 --> 00:26:57.960
like a Grandpa kind of giving you that vibe. Shame

607
00:26:58.039 --> 00:27:00.000
on you. You shouldn't have took that without asking ground.

608
00:27:00.319 --> 00:27:02.160
It was one of those things. So I remember the

609
00:27:02.200 --> 00:27:05.279
next day, I grabbed that rock and I drove all

610
00:27:05.319 --> 00:27:08.640
the way back out there, literally, and if I didn't

611
00:27:08.640 --> 00:27:10.480
even bring in our sea that day. I just went

612
00:27:10.519 --> 00:27:14.319
out there and I parked, and I set the rock

613
00:27:14.359 --> 00:27:16.240
down right where I got it, and I put my

614
00:27:16.279 --> 00:27:19.200
hand up and I said, no hard feelings. And it

615
00:27:19.279 --> 00:27:21.720
might have been the craziest, weirdest thing in the world,

616
00:27:21.720 --> 00:27:24.200
but I tell you what, my shoulders felt way lighter

617
00:27:24.240 --> 00:27:26.960
after doing it. But it didn't end there, because right

618
00:27:27.000 --> 00:27:29.720
before you exit that area, it's gorgeous. You're going right

619
00:27:29.720 --> 00:27:33.799
from people to boom. It's just forest and gorgeous, and

620
00:27:33.880 --> 00:27:36.519
it was just mesmerizing. So I remember stopping at this

621
00:27:36.599 --> 00:27:39.440
little tourist thing, and where this little tourist thing is

622
00:27:39.480 --> 00:27:42.680
a little concrete path and people can look at a

623
00:27:42.680 --> 00:27:44.880
little map and take a picture, and behind them is

624
00:27:44.960 --> 00:27:48.119
just this huge field of pine trees and gorgeous something

625
00:27:48.160 --> 00:27:51.640
out of a bob Ross painting, and so that was

626
00:27:51.680 --> 00:27:53.559
the last little area to check it out before we

627
00:27:53.599 --> 00:27:55.480
went back on the freeway and headed back home. And

628
00:27:56.039 --> 00:27:58.440
I remember standing there, broad daylight. A lady and her

629
00:27:58.519 --> 00:28:00.799
daughter just was leaving the place. They got in their

630
00:28:00.799 --> 00:28:03.359
car and left, and boom, you could hear a mouse

631
00:28:03.359 --> 00:28:06.079
fart from two miles away. It was so quiet. I'm

632
00:28:06.119 --> 00:28:08.119
standing there for a second, I'm looking around and it's

633
00:28:08.119 --> 00:28:10.160
just beautiful. I'm getting ready to walk back to the car,

634
00:28:10.599 --> 00:28:14.599
and I hear a crunch And it wasn't a bowlder

635
00:28:14.680 --> 00:28:17.400
falling on something. It was the calmest day ever. Didn't

636
00:28:17.400 --> 00:28:19.880
even hear any birds at that moment, but in my

637
00:28:20.000 --> 00:28:22.359
brain and this didn't. This took a while after. I

638
00:28:22.440 --> 00:28:24.519
was like, maybe he was just standing. One of them

639
00:28:24.599 --> 00:28:26.720
was standing right there, which would have been right off

640
00:28:26.720 --> 00:28:29.160
of the concrete ledge where this thing is at. It

641
00:28:29.240 --> 00:28:32.200
drops down about twelve feet, But if one was so inclined,

642
00:28:32.200 --> 00:28:34.039
he could have been easily sending one of the other

643
00:28:34.079 --> 00:28:36.599
ones to I don't know, I can't explain it, but

644
00:28:36.640 --> 00:28:38.599
I can tell you that there was a loud kind

645
00:28:38.599 --> 00:28:40.960
of crunch and then almost like a half crunch, like

646
00:28:41.000 --> 00:28:44.359
something was standing right there. If that's their home. They

647
00:28:44.400 --> 00:28:46.480
know everybody coming in and out. They're probably gonna leave

648
00:28:46.519 --> 00:28:49.119
a couple watchers right there on the entrance or the exit,

649
00:28:49.160 --> 00:28:51.039
I should say, and yeah, I remember that, and it

650
00:28:51.079 --> 00:28:53.319
was almost like a nod. I remember driving home and

651
00:28:53.319 --> 00:28:55.920
I almost had that feeling like it was Sam, thank you.

652
00:28:56.279 --> 00:28:59.039
Maybe it's just to them. They're probably ancient obviously, and

653
00:28:59.519 --> 00:29:01.599
taking some I'm as simple as that could have really

654
00:29:01.759 --> 00:29:03.880
rattled their feathers a little bit. I don't know. I

655
00:29:03.960 --> 00:29:05.720
just did it, and I feel better about doing it.

656
00:29:05.799 --> 00:29:08.200
So that's my little Idle Wild story. As far as

657
00:29:08.240 --> 00:29:09.400
that little parts concerned.

658
00:29:09.880 --> 00:29:12.119
I think that was good that you did take it back,

659
00:29:12.160 --> 00:29:15.400
even for your own likesanity. Really, I hear stuff like

660
00:29:15.400 --> 00:29:18.519
that all the time. People take something from Hawaii and

661
00:29:18.559 --> 00:29:20.920
it's never good, but you gotta, oh, you know, it

662
00:29:21.000 --> 00:29:25.720
takes perfect exact different places. For sure. It's very interesting.

663
00:29:25.759 --> 00:29:28.640
But I'm looking at pictures of Idlewild and it's definitely

664
00:29:28.680 --> 00:29:32.880
got an interesting, almost Shasta vibe to it. It feels

665
00:29:32.960 --> 00:29:35.720
like it's just one of those towns that are really cool,

666
00:29:37.079 --> 00:29:38.440
very much, and it's so popular.

667
00:29:38.559 --> 00:29:40.400
There's gonna be people that hike their every day here

668
00:29:40.400 --> 00:29:42.240
in this that are like, Oh, we hiked there every day.

669
00:29:42.240 --> 00:29:44.759
It's fine. I'm just telling you. I felt there. It

670
00:29:44.839 --> 00:29:47.160
was just a feeling. Man. It was almost like back

671
00:29:47.200 --> 00:29:48.480
I was one of those kids back in the day

672
00:29:48.519 --> 00:29:49.880
that we had. We lived in a haunted house and

673
00:29:49.880 --> 00:29:51.319
I was hoping to those sort of things. There was

674
00:29:51.319 --> 00:29:53.240
a lady that would watch me sleep in her gown

675
00:29:53.279 --> 00:29:55.359
and that was creepy. And I don't know, maybe they

676
00:29:55.440 --> 00:29:57.680
just nudged certain people a certain way, or maybe I

677
00:29:57.759 --> 00:29:59.440
sense that they were there without knowing it. But I

678
00:29:59.480 --> 00:30:02.119
remember I was I didn't walk far into there. Big

679
00:30:02.200 --> 00:30:05.519
beautiful trees too, and I was looking up at tree breaks. Sure,

680
00:30:05.519 --> 00:30:07.039
there's a bunch of them, but you don't know if

681
00:30:07.039 --> 00:30:08.799
it's from the wind or what. So I can't I

682
00:30:08.799 --> 00:30:10.960
can't really put that into anything, but I'm going, God,

683
00:30:11.000 --> 00:30:13.240
this is the perfect place. It could easily, you know.

684
00:30:13.480 --> 00:30:17.960
Just yeah. So Idlewild's got its own little world really

685
00:30:18.000 --> 00:30:18.319
over there.

686
00:30:18.319 --> 00:30:18.559
It is.

687
00:30:18.599 --> 00:30:20.119
It's like an old You almost feel like you're in

688
00:30:20.119 --> 00:30:21.720
nor Cow or Washington over there.

689
00:30:22.119 --> 00:30:26.200
You've also mentioned we had brought up Pressline and Lake Arrowhead,

690
00:30:26.200 --> 00:30:29.799
which I've i myself. I've gotten probably at least two

691
00:30:29.920 --> 00:30:33.119
or three accounts from that area, so it seems to

692
00:30:33.160 --> 00:30:35.400
be that seems to be pretty active area. I would

693
00:30:35.440 --> 00:30:37.160
say that's fascinating.

694
00:30:37.200 --> 00:30:39.359
I'm glad you brought that up, because now that we've

695
00:30:39.359 --> 00:30:42.359
talked about that, looking forward, looking behind my house here

696
00:30:42.440 --> 00:30:44.519
from the kit from the back on, I can literally

697
00:30:44.519 --> 00:30:47.559
see big bear here from my window, and it's almost

698
00:30:47.599 --> 00:30:49.960
I doubt that it's big bear. Sure it's huge, but

699
00:30:50.039 --> 00:30:52.319
I'm sure these things are breeding as we're learning, and

700
00:30:52.720 --> 00:30:55.079
they got to migrate on occasion to go find big deer.

701
00:30:55.119 --> 00:30:57.440
Like I just mentioned, there's a couple of big old

702
00:30:57.720 --> 00:30:59.759
deer up here that I've seen one time out there hiking.

703
00:30:59.839 --> 00:31:02.680
So so I just feel like, yeah, they come from there,

704
00:31:02.759 --> 00:31:05.400
but who knows from the more I'm sure you're learning too.

705
00:31:05.480 --> 00:31:07.799
They're known to travel, obviously, if they're going to be

706
00:31:07.799 --> 00:31:10.880
bigger and healthier the farther up north you go compared

707
00:31:10.880 --> 00:31:13.440
to Florida or something. But we've heard big ones down

708
00:31:13.440 --> 00:31:15.880
there too. It's strange. I'm pretty sure they just migrate

709
00:31:15.960 --> 00:31:18.279
that night, they go through these big areas that they know.

710
00:31:18.480 --> 00:31:21.480
Nobody else knows. This tunnel thing that I found one time,

711
00:31:21.519 --> 00:31:24.079
I still can't describe even explain that at all, there

712
00:31:24.119 --> 00:31:26.359
was no sign of hedge clippers know nothing. It was

713
00:31:26.400 --> 00:31:29.200
like something with big was just walking through there, often

714
00:31:29.559 --> 00:31:33.319
pushing down everything like a little secret, little passway. So

715
00:31:33.359 --> 00:31:36.079
I'm pretty sure they go from Big Bear, they walk

716
00:31:36.160 --> 00:31:38.720
all the way through Yucca maybe out to twenty nine Palms.

717
00:31:38.759 --> 00:31:41.839
They go back down through DHS. They could go straight

718
00:31:41.920 --> 00:31:44.720
through DHS to Idlewild and go right back out to

719
00:31:44.920 --> 00:31:47.319
out off the seventy four. I mentioned Toosh from a

720
00:31:47.319 --> 00:31:50.039
helicopter view. Sure, it's the desert and it's hot. They

721
00:31:50.079 --> 00:31:51.920
got the high desert where it starts to cool off.

722
00:31:51.960 --> 00:31:54.680
And then yeah, just right out an hour or so

723
00:31:55.000 --> 00:31:57.440
out west ish, there's you got Big Bear and all

724
00:31:57.480 --> 00:32:01.200
that cressline and that girl who's soon the county or whatever,

725
00:32:01.240 --> 00:32:03.200
and she won, and they know there's stuff out there.

726
00:32:03.240 --> 00:32:05.319
And I'm actually just starting to look up more. If

727
00:32:05.319 --> 00:32:08.000
I go somewhere like that, I'm learning they're up there sometimes.

728
00:32:08.079 --> 00:32:10.880
Yeah, it's just fascinating. I believe you're referring to a

729
00:32:10.960 --> 00:32:13.440
Claudia aclete rights from that area.

730
00:32:13.640 --> 00:32:16.400
Yeah, I think so. It was a little it was

731
00:32:16.400 --> 00:32:19.200
a little clipping that they have about that. I wish

732
00:32:19.279 --> 00:32:21.759
I had more information as far as the twenty nine

733
00:32:21.839 --> 00:32:24.200
palms things and all that. But maybe this will wake

734
00:32:24.279 --> 00:32:26.240
up a couple others to come out with their stories

735
00:32:26.240 --> 00:32:28.480
out here. I just again, I never hear people talk

736
00:32:28.519 --> 00:32:31.599
about it. Yet it's so there. They're so here. Obviously

737
00:32:31.640 --> 00:32:33.920
you can look at the late board on the Bigfoot map.

738
00:32:33.960 --> 00:32:36.160
They're all over the place, And I'm just like, that's strange.

739
00:32:36.160 --> 00:32:38.799
Why does the desert keep getting shut out of these conversations?

740
00:32:38.799 --> 00:32:41.440
To me, that's the most fascinating one. So I don't know.

741
00:32:41.480 --> 00:32:44.559
My hypothesis, Yeah, they travel through to get away or

742
00:32:45.119 --> 00:32:47.359
I don't know. I don't think just a random father

743
00:32:47.440 --> 00:32:49.599
of a family is gonna randomly just walk out here

744
00:32:49.640 --> 00:32:52.359
and start messing with a navy bait or military base

745
00:32:52.400 --> 00:32:54.440
out there, unless it was rogue and it was just

746
00:32:54.559 --> 00:32:57.359
I don't know. It's just fascinating stuff. It's wild. There's

747
00:32:57.359 --> 00:33:00.440
a there was a morning out here. This is one

748
00:33:00.440 --> 00:33:02.920
of the semi recent ones. There was a morning out

749
00:33:02.960 --> 00:33:06.319
here where you know, lots of coyotes and everything out here,

750
00:33:06.319 --> 00:33:09.319
and there was a morning out here with my coffee

751
00:33:09.440 --> 00:33:12.240
and I'm just setting my coffee down. I already heard

752
00:33:12.279 --> 00:33:14.720
the coyotes chirping while I was pouring my coffee, you

753
00:33:14.720 --> 00:33:16.440
know how they cry, and a big pack over here

754
00:33:16.480 --> 00:33:19.319
on the mountain, which is probably a mile or two

755
00:33:19.839 --> 00:33:22.240
tops where they could have been. And I was like,

756
00:33:22.240 --> 00:33:23.599
all right, look at those little guys that are up

757
00:33:23.640 --> 00:33:27.000
and doing their thing. Boom, there was this huge roar

758
00:33:27.640 --> 00:33:31.240
over the coyotes, enough to make me shake the coffee

759
00:33:31.240 --> 00:33:33.400
and go whoa. And I felt it in my chest

760
00:33:33.519 --> 00:33:35.200
and I was like, okay, cool. It took me a

761
00:33:35.240 --> 00:33:38.440
second to program or what was that. I'm still waking

762
00:33:38.480 --> 00:33:40.559
up and I'm going and I knew right away it

763
00:33:40.599 --> 00:33:43.119
wasn't a dog, because that dog would have continued barking.

764
00:33:43.400 --> 00:33:46.759
It was one loud roar, like a shut up type thing,

765
00:33:46.920 --> 00:33:48.839
and it was enough to reach me all the way

766
00:33:48.839 --> 00:33:51.200
over on my porch here and shake my chest a

767
00:33:51.240 --> 00:33:54.000
little bit. And I went right through the whole dictionary

768
00:33:54.039 --> 00:33:56.039
of animals in my brain and I'm like, that was

769
00:33:56.200 --> 00:33:58.799
none of those. I almost thought maybe a mountain lion.

770
00:33:58.839 --> 00:34:01.240
But even in let's say something barked at those coyotes.

771
00:34:01.799 --> 00:34:05.319
Whatever it was has to dominate a huge pack of coyotes,

772
00:34:05.319 --> 00:34:08.880
because right after that sound, it was dead quiet. What

773
00:34:09.000 --> 00:34:11.400
else could put a whole pack of coyotes in check?

774
00:34:11.519 --> 00:34:13.679
With one loud roar that reaches all the way to

775
00:34:13.719 --> 00:34:16.599
this guy's porch while he's having his coffee. I don't know,

776
00:34:16.639 --> 00:34:18.599
if you let me know. In the comments, a lot

777
00:34:18.639 --> 00:34:20.199
of people will say this, that and the other. But

778
00:34:20.360 --> 00:34:23.239
wouldn't the coyotes continue to bark a few times after that,

779
00:34:23.320 --> 00:34:26.320
maybe a couple puppies still chirping after a loud shut

780
00:34:26.360 --> 00:34:28.960
up from another animal. But it was almost like something

781
00:34:29.119 --> 00:34:31.639
was like, just stop. The sun's coming up, you guys

782
00:34:31.679 --> 00:34:34.360
need to stop right now. No, it was still dark

783
00:34:34.400 --> 00:34:36.079
out barely the sun was coming up too.

784
00:34:36.119 --> 00:34:36.800
I left that out.

785
00:34:36.960 --> 00:34:38.599
That was eerie. That was something I had to write

786
00:34:38.639 --> 00:34:40.679
down because that shook me to the point where, yeah,

787
00:34:40.679 --> 00:34:42.519
I felt it my chest just like you people tell

788
00:34:42.960 --> 00:34:46.000
your fans tell their stories on here. And that was

789
00:34:46.039 --> 00:34:49.400
strange because that was just vibration. It wasn't just the noise.

790
00:34:49.440 --> 00:34:51.119
It was almost like I could send out this huge

791
00:34:51.159 --> 00:34:54.599
shock wave like a video game, like two miles out

792
00:34:54.639 --> 00:34:57.199
from it, and everything in that path gets felt like.

793
00:34:57.920 --> 00:35:00.599
I don't know, it was cool. It was dead for

794
00:35:00.639 --> 00:35:02.559
the rest of the morning after that, with my whole coffee,

795
00:35:02.599 --> 00:35:05.360
I didn't hear one shirt. So if you know what

796
00:35:05.400 --> 00:35:07.480
can shut up a whole pack of coyotes. Let let

797
00:35:07.559 --> 00:35:09.599
us know in the comments. I'm curious. I gotta know

798
00:35:09.639 --> 00:35:11.239
that one that's been bugging me for a while.

799
00:35:12.280 --> 00:35:14.639
Yeah, you hear that kind of thing, and that always

800
00:35:14.679 --> 00:35:17.320
makes you wonder it just it doesn't make sense that

801
00:35:17.519 --> 00:35:21.840
it could be anything else. You hear something that that loud.

802
00:35:22.039 --> 00:35:25.280
I've heard something similar up in or again, and it

803
00:35:25.360 --> 00:35:28.199
really does. It messes with it, It makes you stop.

804
00:35:29.000 --> 00:35:31.679
It's just it's crazy to hear something that loud. Do

805
00:35:32.239 --> 00:35:35.079
a roar or a scream or whatever it is that

806
00:35:35.679 --> 00:35:37.199
you hear the equivalent.

807
00:35:37.360 --> 00:35:40.239
But yeah, it wasn't ohio how type stuff. This was

808
00:35:40.280 --> 00:35:42.320
like a loud again, seize my language. I don't know

809
00:35:42.360 --> 00:35:43.960
the thing on here, but it was just it really

810
00:35:44.000 --> 00:35:46.159
was like a loud just shut up and he stopped.

811
00:35:46.159 --> 00:35:48.519
But it was enough to just it was allowed. It

812
00:35:48.559 --> 00:35:51.960
was definitely like a malish scream. It wasn't like three

813
00:35:52.079 --> 00:35:54.880
voices the high the low. It was one maybe two

814
00:35:55.519 --> 00:35:59.119
double just octave, just enough to almost just push me

815
00:35:59.159 --> 00:36:01.840
back a little bit. And yeah, that was bizarre. And

816
00:36:02.239 --> 00:36:04.280
again it was cooler out. It was one of those

817
00:36:04.320 --> 00:36:06.960
things where sure, son's coming up, they know about that

818
00:36:07.000 --> 00:36:09.840
little row of houses right there. Things are acting up

819
00:36:10.239 --> 00:36:13.679
around that time. Maybe again, maybe they are kind of protectors.

820
00:36:13.719 --> 00:36:15.440
And I've heard a lot of people say that maybe

821
00:36:15.480 --> 00:36:17.239
they run their own program up there, and if things

822
00:36:17.280 --> 00:36:20.119
are getting too rowdy, they feel good just putting everything

823
00:36:20.119 --> 00:36:22.440
in check, keep it down for the humans. I don't know,

824
00:36:23.039 --> 00:36:26.159
but that's definitely one thing I still cannot explain at all.

825
00:36:26.440 --> 00:36:29.280
It's just bizarre, and there's no doubt in my mind

826
00:36:29.280 --> 00:36:31.199
they pass through here and stuff. But again, it's just

827
00:36:31.280 --> 00:36:33.000
it's I wanted to open up that door to see

828
00:36:33.039 --> 00:36:35.559
who else comes forward with some cool desert stories, and again,

829
00:36:35.679 --> 00:36:38.000
nobody ever expands on it. I want to hear more

830
00:36:38.000 --> 00:36:40.079
about the twenty nine palm stories out there. There's a

831
00:36:40.119 --> 00:36:42.039
ton of them and they go way back in the day.

832
00:36:42.119 --> 00:36:45.320
But oh, absolutely, yeah. Did I think you may have

833
00:36:45.400 --> 00:36:49.360
mentioned before, did you say that you have other people

834
00:36:49.440 --> 00:36:52.679
that you know in the same community of RC crawlers

835
00:36:52.679 --> 00:36:55.800
that they've had things happen as well that are out

836
00:36:55.840 --> 00:36:56.440
of the ordinary.

837
00:36:57.599 --> 00:37:00.400
Most of them chuckle and laugh on the sub has

838
00:37:00.480 --> 00:37:02.440
changed really quick. But when you get any of those

839
00:37:02.440 --> 00:37:05.800
individuals by themselves, people just open up and tell you things.

840
00:37:05.840 --> 00:37:07.840
And I don't know. Yeah, I've heard a few different

841
00:37:07.880 --> 00:37:10.360
people say that there's things they can't explain around a

842
00:37:10.360 --> 00:37:14.239
certain bend, big old bipedal splashes walking through and they're

843
00:37:14.239 --> 00:37:17.039
there with their RC trucks crawling on some rocks and

844
00:37:17.159 --> 00:37:19.880
something else is basically saying hello, kids, get out of

845
00:37:19.920 --> 00:37:22.239
here with your toys. This is my area, just because

846
00:37:22.239 --> 00:37:24.320
we know how quiet they can be, and they know

847
00:37:24.480 --> 00:37:26.760
that's their living room. This is their living room, I

848
00:37:26.760 --> 00:37:30.039
should say, so they know how to spark a little

849
00:37:30.039 --> 00:37:31.920
fear to get somebody out of there, or they can

850
00:37:32.039 --> 00:37:34.239
be very quiet, as they've been known to walk through

851
00:37:34.239 --> 00:37:36.039
all kinds of areas and you can't hear a darn

852
00:37:36.079 --> 00:37:39.519
thing on fall day with dry leaves everywhere. They're just

853
00:37:39.599 --> 00:37:43.280
so ninjul it's fascinating. I don't know, but yeah, there's

854
00:37:43.320 --> 00:37:44.840
been a lot of those sort of stories where somebody

855
00:37:44.840 --> 00:37:46.960
hear something splash, And I've heard the pebble ones a

856
00:37:47.000 --> 00:37:50.360
few times where there's no cliff above. And my buddy

857
00:37:50.400 --> 00:37:52.599
Alex and he had a couple of pebbles hidden near

858
00:37:52.599 --> 00:37:55.360
his ankle one time he mentioned briefly but it put

859
00:37:55.360 --> 00:37:57.400
my light bulb blah, and I'm like, all right, okay,

860
00:37:57.519 --> 00:37:59.039
I've had that happen, you know what I mean. But

861
00:38:00.079 --> 00:38:01.679
guys being guys, I don't know. Owen we're all to go.

862
00:38:01.800 --> 00:38:04.039
You don't really expand on it too much, But I

863
00:38:04.079 --> 00:38:05.880
think a lot of these big foot things are stuff

864
00:38:05.880 --> 00:38:08.280
we do when we're by ourselves watching our shows at night.

865
00:38:08.840 --> 00:38:12.880
I don't know, absolutely, John, this has been a really

866
00:38:12.920 --> 00:38:17.599
interesting conversation. I think it will hopefully open up a

867
00:38:17.639 --> 00:38:20.679
lot of people that may not have reached out before.

868
00:38:20.800 --> 00:38:23.440
So honest say thank you for reaching out and for

869
00:38:23.519 --> 00:38:25.800
having this conversation. I want to make sure that we

870
00:38:25.800 --> 00:38:28.480
were able to chat about everything that you'd wanted to

871
00:38:28.519 --> 00:38:29.800
bring to the show today.

872
00:38:31.239 --> 00:38:33.559
Yeah, I appreciate you just giving me a chance to

873
00:38:33.599 --> 00:38:35.280
share a couple of these things. When I'm watching an

874
00:38:35.280 --> 00:38:37.360
episode and there's not a whole bunch of action, I'll

875
00:38:37.360 --> 00:38:39.880
still watch or listen, but I wish I had more.

876
00:38:39.960 --> 00:38:41.639
I just again, Yeah, I hope just kind of puts

877
00:38:41.679 --> 00:38:43.679
on that light bulb a little motivation for people to

878
00:38:43.679 --> 00:38:46.199
come forward with some of those class A sidings and stuff.

879
00:38:46.239 --> 00:38:48.320
I just had to share with the light bulb on

880
00:38:48.360 --> 00:38:50.880
that there's definitely a little triangle out here of activity

881
00:38:50.920 --> 00:38:53.840
that goes way back and I encourage anybody to look

882
00:38:53.840 --> 00:38:56.760
into that when you're bored. It's fun and cool. Since then,

883
00:38:56.880 --> 00:38:58.920
my last page got deleted, but I'm starting a new

884
00:38:58.920 --> 00:39:01.360
one up and I'm still out there. It really is

885
00:39:01.480 --> 00:39:03.280
three hundred and sixty five days a year type of

886
00:39:03.320 --> 00:39:05.760
thing keeps me out of trouble. So I'll definitely be

887
00:39:05.800 --> 00:39:08.400
collecting things over time if anything happens, and I'll definitely

888
00:39:08.480 --> 00:39:09.159
be sharing them.

889
00:39:10.119 --> 00:39:13.840
And what's the name of your current channel? If people

890
00:39:13.880 --> 00:39:17.079
want to check out what RC crawlers are and they

891
00:39:17.079 --> 00:39:17.679
haven't seen it.

892
00:39:17.639 --> 00:39:20.480
Before, this will be cool because we all have a

893
00:39:20.519 --> 00:39:22.679
nerdy side, so yeah, come by and check it out.

894
00:39:22.760 --> 00:39:25.960
It's Rabbit Lodge Racing. You can just go at Rabbit

895
00:39:26.039 --> 00:39:28.719
Lodge Racing. I got to change that to media. Might

896
00:39:28.719 --> 00:39:30.920
just leave it to racing, but at Rabbit Lodge Racing

897
00:39:31.039 --> 00:39:33.159
YouTube channel. I'm going to be starting my videos here

898
00:39:33.199 --> 00:39:35.760
towards the beginning of winter. We'll get that page up

899
00:39:35.800 --> 00:39:38.320
and going again, and it's just all entertainment. You can

900
00:39:38.360 --> 00:39:40.400
sit back and watch it while you eat. If there's

901
00:39:40.440 --> 00:39:42.880
something really cool that happens, I might mention it on there,

902
00:39:42.880 --> 00:39:44.880
but this is more just for fun visuals to check

903
00:39:44.920 --> 00:39:47.360
out maybe inspire you for a bild or something. So yeah,

904
00:39:47.400 --> 00:39:49.360
come on by, give me a follow, and get ready

905
00:39:49.400 --> 00:39:50.679
for some cool videos.

906
00:39:51.039 --> 00:39:53.480
That's awesome. Thanks so much for coming on the show today, John.

907
00:39:53.519 --> 00:39:57.079
I appreciate yeap, love your show man, and thank you

908
00:39:57.119 --> 00:39:58.639
so much for having me, and you have yourself a

909
00:39:58.639 --> 00:39:59.480
good rest of the day.

910
00:40:00.199 --> 00:40:05.199
Hello, Hi, how are you good?

911
00:40:05.360 --> 00:40:06.280
What brings you up tonight?

912
00:40:07.079 --> 00:40:09.599
I think I contacted you a while back about my

913
00:40:09.760 --> 00:40:13.360
experience and I keep having them and it's just pretty cool,

914
00:40:13.400 --> 00:40:15.199
and I thought i'd tell my story tonight if you.

915
00:40:15.119 --> 00:40:17.400
Don't mind, Yeah, go right ahead.

916
00:40:17.960 --> 00:40:18.400
Okay.

917
00:40:19.119 --> 00:40:27.639
So I live in Nebraska and they're usually not said

918
00:40:27.639 --> 00:40:31.519
to be around this area, and I think it's because

919
00:40:31.559 --> 00:40:33.599
it's wide open space, is not a lot of tree,

920
00:40:33.639 --> 00:40:36.760
not a lot of coverage and things like that. But

921
00:40:36.840 --> 00:40:38.960
when I moved to the area that I live in now,

922
00:40:40.000 --> 00:40:42.679
my sister in law, which she wasn't my sister allaw

923
00:40:42.679 --> 00:40:45.880
at the time, said she saw one. And I have

924
00:40:46.000 --> 00:40:47.639
that always in the back of my head. Will you

925
00:40:47.679 --> 00:40:50.559
just go on with your life? And we're like, Okay,

926
00:40:51.239 --> 00:40:53.599
I was driving one night. I used to work for

927
00:40:53.639 --> 00:40:57.599
the railroad as a driver to drive engineers to their trains,

928
00:40:58.360 --> 00:41:00.519
and I was coming back home and I was going

929
00:41:00.559 --> 00:41:03.800
down into this little valley where a huge river goes

930
00:41:03.800 --> 00:41:07.920
through it. And I as I'm nearing, I'm on the

931
00:41:07.920 --> 00:41:11.760
phone with my mom. So my mom and my daughter,

932
00:41:11.880 --> 00:41:14.360
they're still up at this slight hour can hear me.

933
00:41:14.760 --> 00:41:18.599
And all of a sudden, I see something and I'm like,

934
00:41:18.800 --> 00:41:23.239
what is that. So it's on the side of the road,

935
00:41:24.519 --> 00:41:27.599
and it takes one step, and then all of a

936
00:41:27.599 --> 00:41:29.519
sudden it's in the middle of the road, and this

937
00:41:29.599 --> 00:41:33.800
is a two lane highway, and then it looks at me,

938
00:41:34.440 --> 00:41:39.960
and it wasn't fear as much as just awe of

939
00:41:40.000 --> 00:41:44.159
how fast and how big it was. And then it

940
00:41:44.199 --> 00:41:47.840
took one more step and it was already gone. And

941
00:41:47.880 --> 00:41:49.920
I said to my mom, I'm like, I think I

942
00:41:50.000 --> 00:41:53.199
just saw a bigfoot. And she's said, no, you didn't.

943
00:41:53.239 --> 00:41:57.920
I'm like, I seriously think I saw a bigfoot. And

944
00:41:58.039 --> 00:42:00.599
you know how everybody's no, you didn't see one or whatever.

945
00:42:01.320 --> 00:42:05.400
I followed the river. There's several big rivers around me,

946
00:42:06.639 --> 00:42:09.960
so I would occasionally go down to a river. I

947
00:42:10.039 --> 00:42:15.679
drive when I get stressed, and there's this little bridge

948
00:42:15.920 --> 00:42:18.320
that is down in the middle of nowhere, that nobody

949
00:42:18.360 --> 00:42:20.719
goes except for a farmer that has a crop back there,

950
00:42:21.199 --> 00:42:23.719
but he doesn't even irrigate it. He just plants it

951
00:42:23.760 --> 00:42:28.719
and forgets it. And I go and sit on that bridge.

952
00:42:28.920 --> 00:42:36.840
And I've been communicating or seeing this same one. I

953
00:42:36.880 --> 00:42:41.800
believe it's the same one about every two to three months.

954
00:42:43.599 --> 00:42:48.119
I've left it gifts before, and I've had a skull

955
00:42:48.960 --> 00:42:53.159
given back to me and things like that. I know

956
00:42:53.199 --> 00:42:58.159
it prefers like plush animals, like stuffed animals, like really

957
00:42:58.159 --> 00:43:02.320
bright vivid ones are which I would think is weird

958
00:43:02.360 --> 00:43:05.679
because where would they hide it. But I have had

959
00:43:05.719 --> 00:43:10.320
that experience about every two months since five years ago.

960
00:43:14.480 --> 00:43:18.440
I never feel threatened, but I also don't try to

961
00:43:18.440 --> 00:43:20.320
look it in the eye, and I don't try to

962
00:43:21.159 --> 00:43:27.559
initiate contact. But I do know that he she, I

963
00:43:27.559 --> 00:43:32.679
don't even know what it is, travels the same river system,

964
00:43:33.239 --> 00:43:36.280
and I can find them at different parts of the

965
00:43:36.400 --> 00:43:40.079
river at different times. I can actually map out where

966
00:43:40.119 --> 00:43:44.559
it's going to be because it has like a game

967
00:43:44.599 --> 00:43:47.400
trail and it follows the river, which is really cool.

968
00:43:51.079 --> 00:43:54.440
I guess, so you're actually having visual sightings over the

969
00:43:54.519 --> 00:43:56.159
last five years.

970
00:43:57.360 --> 00:44:04.360
I do have some foot feetprint okay, and hair. I

971
00:44:04.440 --> 00:44:06.920
have all of that because one time when it jumped

972
00:44:06.960 --> 00:44:09.440
up bark by your fence, I think I got caught

973
00:44:09.559 --> 00:44:12.960
or I got nicked. But I've got so much evidence

974
00:44:13.320 --> 00:44:15.320
that you can't. There's no way you can tell me

975
00:44:15.400 --> 00:44:16.679
that it wasn't what I saw.

976
00:44:19.639 --> 00:44:21.119
What is the hair like that you have?

977
00:44:22.519 --> 00:44:28.280
It's very coarse, very stinky. When I first got it,

978
00:44:28.360 --> 00:44:30.519
thank god it I put it in a bay, so

979
00:44:30.800 --> 00:44:34.159
the bay still smells like it. It's very coarse and long.

980
00:44:35.880 --> 00:44:40.599
It feels hollow, like lighter but thicker. Does that make sense?

981
00:44:41.800 --> 00:44:42.440
Absolutely?

982
00:44:42.679 --> 00:44:43.880
Yeah?

983
00:44:43.920 --> 00:44:47.480
And it has like varying colors of brown on it.

984
00:44:47.480 --> 00:44:52.280
It's really weird like it when it I don't know

985
00:44:52.280 --> 00:44:54.760
how to describe it. When you move the follicle, like

986
00:44:54.800 --> 00:44:57.880
there's different colors throughout the hair shaft.

987
00:45:01.119 --> 00:45:01.920
It's really weird.

988
00:45:02.119 --> 00:45:04.239
Is that looking at it through a microscope or just

989
00:45:04.320 --> 00:45:05.239
looking at it with your.

990
00:45:05.199 --> 00:45:07.440
Naked eye microscope?

991
00:45:07.880 --> 00:45:11.719
I got very into looking at it because I couldn't

992
00:45:11.760 --> 00:45:12.639
believe I found it.

993
00:45:14.000 --> 00:45:20.480
That's awesome. There is a DNA study being done out

994
00:45:20.480 --> 00:45:23.880
of North Carolina state where they're taking any evidence that

995
00:45:24.639 --> 00:45:27.639
people want to send in that's related to bigfoot.

996
00:45:28.760 --> 00:45:31.320
I would love to Yeah, I would love to send

997
00:45:31.360 --> 00:45:35.440
it in because I also know one time when I

998
00:45:35.480 --> 00:45:37.920
parked my car and went for a walk because there's

999
00:45:38.000 --> 00:45:41.800
this abandon barn and I was just looking at because

1000
00:45:41.800 --> 00:45:43.519
it's really cool and I like to find like old

1001
00:45:43.559 --> 00:45:47.239
horseshoes and stuff. When I came back, there's there was

1002
00:45:47.239 --> 00:45:51.280
a handprint on my window and there was no way

1003
00:45:51.320 --> 00:45:55.320
no human made that handprint on my window. I don't

1004
00:45:55.320 --> 00:45:58.119
know where it was because I never saw it that day,

1005
00:45:58.599 --> 00:46:00.679
but there was definitely a handprint on my window.

1006
00:46:04.320 --> 00:46:08.280
Thank you something. It was really weird. I don't know

1007
00:46:08.360 --> 00:46:09.199
that the year see though.

1008
00:46:09.280 --> 00:46:13.599
So there's a name I'm gonna if you can write

1009
00:46:13.639 --> 00:46:16.440
this down. The name that the individually need to look

1010
00:46:16.519 --> 00:46:21.239
up is Derby or cut Okay. And it's a d

1011
00:46:21.440 --> 00:46:25.840
A R B Y O R C U T t.

1012
00:46:27.960 --> 00:46:28.519
Okay.

1013
00:46:29.760 --> 00:46:33.000
And he has a website where you can request to

1014
00:46:33.119 --> 00:46:36.360
send in a sample for them to test the DNA on.

1015
00:46:37.280 --> 00:46:37.599
Okay.

1016
00:46:38.559 --> 00:46:41.880
I just have those the picture of the handprint and

1017
00:46:41.920 --> 00:46:43.840
I couldn't so I had to get a picture of

1018
00:46:43.920 --> 00:46:48.000
the feet prints. But you will find them regularly down

1019
00:46:48.000 --> 00:46:50.599
in the river system where I go and meet up

1020
00:46:50.960 --> 00:46:54.320
every once in a while with it. It's never acted

1021
00:46:56.159 --> 00:47:00.119
angry or violent towards me. But I do know it.

1022
00:47:00.119 --> 00:47:03.320
If I get out of my car, I don't feel safe.

1023
00:47:03.440 --> 00:47:06.800
Does that make sense? It's like I'm in it, I'm

1024
00:47:06.840 --> 00:47:11.199
in its area. If I'm in my car, I just

1025
00:47:11.519 --> 00:47:15.119
I act really respectful when I try not to make

1026
00:47:15.159 --> 00:47:18.559
eye contact with it or whatever. But I'm not gonna

1027
00:47:18.599 --> 00:47:22.440
purposely anger it to find out if it would be

1028
00:47:23.199 --> 00:47:27.159
or not, because I always want to treat it like

1029
00:47:27.239 --> 00:47:30.400
a I would treat like I would say, a bigger

1030
00:47:30.800 --> 00:47:35.440
male or a great ape, where you don't want to

1031
00:47:35.559 --> 00:47:38.159
look at them directly in the eye to challenge them.

1032
00:47:39.119 --> 00:47:43.360
Oh yeah, absolutely, But I also know that it's never

1033
00:47:43.719 --> 00:47:46.760
been threatening. There's only one time it was, and that

1034
00:47:46.880 --> 00:47:49.800
was when he heard it first. I don't know how

1035
00:47:49.840 --> 00:47:53.599
far away it was, but he showed his I don't

1036
00:47:53.599 --> 00:47:55.639
even I'm saying he or she, I don't know. It

1037
00:47:55.679 --> 00:47:59.440
showed its teeth. And then about two minutes later a

1038
00:47:59.480 --> 00:48:04.400
car went by, Okay, on opposite road. I don't know

1039
00:48:04.440 --> 00:48:08.360
how he heard it, but he heard it way better

1040
00:48:08.400 --> 00:48:09.519
than I ever did.

1041
00:48:11.119 --> 00:48:12.320
What did the teeth look like.

1042
00:48:13.960 --> 00:48:14.400
Yellow?

1043
00:48:15.000 --> 00:48:19.119
There was definite. Some canines they're very blocky.

1044
00:48:19.280 --> 00:48:20.159
If that makes sense.

1045
00:48:20.920 --> 00:48:21.880
Absolutely, it does.

1046
00:48:21.960 --> 00:48:27.199
Yeah, you go to the Natural History Museum and like

1047
00:48:27.239 --> 00:48:30.679
those teeth that the Iceman had and stuff like that.

1048
00:48:30.920 --> 00:48:35.119
I've described it that, but definitely sharper and definitely bigger.

1049
00:48:38.920 --> 00:48:42.199
A lot of people think that there's not much activity

1050
00:48:42.199 --> 00:48:44.599
that happens in Nebraska, but we don't know where this

1051
00:48:44.719 --> 00:48:46.559
is in the state, but there is.

1052
00:48:46.599 --> 00:48:49.079
Actually I try not to tell anybody about it just

1053
00:48:49.119 --> 00:48:51.599
because I don't want anybody else finding it.

1054
00:48:52.639 --> 00:48:52.840
Yeah.

1055
00:48:52.880 --> 00:48:56.719
Absolutely, but I've gotten so many reports from even in

1056
00:48:56.760 --> 00:49:01.239
the Omaha area. It's crazy what's going on in that state.

1057
00:49:01.400 --> 00:49:02.119
Certain areas.

1058
00:49:02.320 --> 00:49:05.280
There's definitely enough space out here that nobody goes to

1059
00:49:06.440 --> 00:49:10.440
that would definitely allow it to be free and wild,

1060
00:49:10.840 --> 00:49:15.800
and there's enough hunting, fishing anything where it could sustain

1061
00:49:16.000 --> 00:49:19.920
quite a few animals that you would never know about it,

1062
00:49:22.159 --> 00:49:24.599
because if you just followed the river system that I

1063
00:49:24.840 --> 00:49:29.039
live near, it branches off into thirty different creeks and stuff,

1064
00:49:29.360 --> 00:49:31.599
and you'll get lost so fast.

1065
00:49:34.480 --> 00:49:35.239
That's incredible.

1066
00:49:35.960 --> 00:49:36.400
Melissa.

1067
00:49:36.400 --> 00:49:38.760
I appreciate you coming up and sharing what you've been

1068
00:49:38.840 --> 00:49:42.480
experiencing over the years. Feel free to reach out in

1069
00:49:42.559 --> 00:49:45.159
the future if stuff continues to happen, and if you

1070
00:49:45.199 --> 00:49:47.840
want to report that as well. My email is big

1071
00:49:47.880 --> 00:49:49.599
for society at gmail dot com.

1072
00:49:50.320 --> 00:49:53.760
I definitely will Do you have any suggestions on because

1073
00:49:53.800 --> 00:49:56.800
I noticed it, it appreciated the stuffies and left me

1074
00:49:56.920 --> 00:50:00.239
like bigger things. Do I keep interacting with with it?

1075
00:50:00.360 --> 00:50:02.280
Or do I stop just because I don't want to.

1076
00:50:03.519 --> 00:50:05.679
I don't know exactly how to progress because I was

1077
00:50:05.719 --> 00:50:08.519
totally leave things and then somebody just told me not to.

1078
00:50:09.000 --> 00:50:11.880
So I will say this, and this is based on

1079
00:50:12.119 --> 00:50:17.440
reports I've taken over the years, if you stop interacting

1080
00:50:17.440 --> 00:50:22.159
in this way, that there could be issues. Oh okay,

1081
00:50:22.960 --> 00:50:24.800
so that is something to keep in mind.

1082
00:50:25.000 --> 00:50:28.440
And I don't mind giving him things. I have toys

1083
00:50:28.440 --> 00:50:32.039
from my children that are but they've obviously outgrown and things.

1084
00:50:32.079 --> 00:50:35.760
So I have buckets of close.

1085
00:50:35.639 --> 00:50:39.079
Stuff and I would say usually that's more if you're

1086
00:50:39.119 --> 00:50:41.639
leaving food like a lot of people.

1087
00:50:41.760 --> 00:50:45.519
I don't leave food just because I understand what feeding

1088
00:50:45.559 --> 00:50:50.519
wildlife can entail, because I'm a wild life rehabilitator. Okay,

1089
00:50:50.559 --> 00:50:54.039
so I tried to mainly achieve like drinkets and things

1090
00:50:54.039 --> 00:50:57.559
that movement it curious and want to learn, but not

1091
00:50:57.960 --> 00:50:58.960
think of me as food.

1092
00:51:00.679 --> 00:51:03.519
Yeah, so I think if food's not really involved, then

1093
00:51:04.039 --> 00:51:07.079
then you it shouldn't be I don't think it would

1094
00:51:07.079 --> 00:51:10.440
be as bad. Usually the reports I take where there's

1095
00:51:10.559 --> 00:51:13.320
issues are the person that's been giving them food and

1096
00:51:13.320 --> 00:51:20.000
then they stop all of a sudden that as.

1097
00:51:18.039 --> 00:51:21.760
A wild life be abilitator, you can't feed anything out there,

1098
00:51:21.760 --> 00:51:24.119
and you take that kind of oath. So that's why

1099
00:51:24.159 --> 00:51:26.960
I always chose non food items.

1100
00:51:29.239 --> 00:51:32.079
Melissa, Is this say a conversation that I could put

1101
00:51:32.199 --> 00:51:34.360
on the big Foot podcast that I have?

1102
00:51:35.320 --> 00:51:35.880
Of course?

1103
00:51:36.840 --> 00:51:40.079
Awesome. Thank you so much for coming up. Hopefully we'll

1104
00:51:40.079 --> 00:51:41.920
hear from you in the future as well.

1105
00:51:42.840 --> 00:51:46.360
Thank you, and I'll try to get some more concrete evidence.

1106
00:51:46.400 --> 00:51:49.320
I did go get past repairs and things for the feetprints,

1107
00:51:49.360 --> 00:51:51.519
so we'll see if I get more evidence.

1108
00:51:52.760 --> 00:51:54.840
Sounds great, Have a good one, all.

1109
00:51:54.760 --> 00:51:55.239
Right, thank you.

1110
00:51:57.840 --> 00:51:59.880
Hi there, how are you hello?

1111
00:52:01.199 --> 00:52:01.639
I'm good?

1112
00:52:01.960 --> 00:52:02.840
Thank you good.

1113
00:52:03.599 --> 00:52:05.840
Were you wanting to come up to share or do

1114
00:52:05.880 --> 00:52:08.559
you mind sharing about encounters that you've had?

1115
00:52:11.159 --> 00:52:12.599
No, I don't mind sharing.

1116
00:52:12.880 --> 00:52:16.039
It's not I don't have a real big, long story

1117
00:52:16.119 --> 00:52:19.519
or anything about it. But yeah, I was around eleven

1118
00:52:19.639 --> 00:52:26.119
years old. We lived in Brookdale, California, across the Highway

1119
00:52:26.199 --> 00:52:30.400
nine from the Brookdale lodge for anybody that's familiar with

1120
00:52:30.480 --> 00:52:36.280
the area. And the Brookdale Creek ran behind our house

1121
00:52:37.360 --> 00:52:40.679
and I would play at that creek a whole lot.

1122
00:52:41.400 --> 00:52:48.880
And the creek ended up feeding into the San Lorenzo River,

1123
00:52:49.920 --> 00:52:53.400
and I would follow the creek down to the river

1124
00:52:54.440 --> 00:52:57.559
and I would play in the river, like right there

1125
00:52:57.599 --> 00:53:01.519
where the creek came into the river, and that feeling

1126
00:53:01.639 --> 00:53:07.519
of somebody watching you, and that would happen a lot

1127
00:53:07.639 --> 00:53:11.599
in that area. And on this particular day, when I

1128
00:53:11.679 --> 00:53:16.679
looked up and started looking around for is there somebody around,

1129
00:53:17.639 --> 00:53:24.960
I saw a face across the San Lorenzo River sticking

1130
00:53:25.000 --> 00:53:28.960
out of the forest. It was the eyes and the

1131
00:53:28.960 --> 00:53:33.239
bridge of the nose that I first saw, and it

1132
00:53:33.320 --> 00:53:37.039
was very tall and all of that, and it just

1133
00:53:37.119 --> 00:53:41.400
shifted away, and I didn't really hear a whole lot

1134
00:53:41.480 --> 00:53:44.719
of movement because of the river sounds and all of that.

1135
00:53:45.679 --> 00:53:48.199
But that was pretty much about as far as that

1136
00:53:48.280 --> 00:53:52.360
went that day. But I knew I saw something. I

1137
00:53:52.480 --> 00:53:55.280
knew it wasn't a bear. I wasn't sure if I

1138
00:53:55.440 --> 00:53:58.800
was seeing like maybe somebody that lived in the woods,

1139
00:53:59.159 --> 00:54:03.239
because that was something that happened there, but it really

1140
00:54:03.280 --> 00:54:07.000
did stick with me and I was like, what did

1141
00:54:07.000 --> 00:54:09.559
I Is that what I saw? Or was it one

1142
00:54:09.599 --> 00:54:14.679
of the hermit people? And I eventually went back, probably

1143
00:54:14.679 --> 00:54:19.239
about sometime within the week after that, and went across

1144
00:54:19.360 --> 00:54:23.400
the river and went up where I thought it may

1145
00:54:23.440 --> 00:54:29.400
have gone. And I did come across. It was very smelly,

1146
00:54:29.480 --> 00:54:34.519
and came across like where all of the.

1147
00:54:33.760 --> 00:54:39.079
Trees were like pushed down our fit to somebody else.

1148
00:54:39.119 --> 00:54:40.920
I mean, it just looked like they all fell like

1149
00:54:41.000 --> 00:54:45.960
this a different crisscross kind of pattern. But I did

1150
00:54:46.039 --> 00:54:50.880
walk down into there and it was very stinky and

1151
00:54:51.159 --> 00:54:55.280
there was like branches and stuff like that, and I

1152
00:54:55.400 --> 00:55:00.280
just got that overwhelming scary feeling and took off and

1153
00:55:00.480 --> 00:55:01.760
never really went back.

1154
00:55:01.840 --> 00:55:03.800
But there was definitely.

1155
00:55:04.159 --> 00:55:10.159
A worn pattern, like a worn trails, and the where

1156
00:55:10.199 --> 00:55:15.840
I found the little like lean to ey kind of thing,

1157
00:55:16.639 --> 00:55:20.400
call it that, for lack of better description right now,

1158
00:55:20.880 --> 00:55:25.239
it was like where a bunch of redwood trees had

1159
00:55:25.360 --> 00:55:28.519
fallen at one time, and then there was all the

1160
00:55:28.559 --> 00:55:32.119
limbs were going across the Yeah, so I'm not really sure,

1161
00:55:32.119 --> 00:55:36.800
but I do believe that was my first time of

1162
00:55:36.960 --> 00:55:42.519
seeing a bigfoot. And then many years later, when I

1163
00:55:42.559 --> 00:55:46.519
was nineteen, I was living up on Mount Shasta with

1164
00:55:46.559 --> 00:55:50.960
a bunch of people, and we had many and many

1165
00:55:51.039 --> 00:55:52.519
different times.

1166
00:55:52.239 --> 00:55:59.679
The thumping, the whooping, the rocks being thrown towards our camp,

1167
00:56:00.440 --> 00:56:03.079
and that one of the times that we were coming

1168
00:56:03.159 --> 00:56:08.800
back from town down in Shasta and going back up

1169
00:56:08.960 --> 00:56:12.320
like towards where the lodge used to be. And there's

1170
00:56:12.400 --> 00:56:14.960
no way again that this was a bear. People try

1171
00:56:15.039 --> 00:56:17.559
to always tell me it was a bear, and.

1172
00:56:17.480 --> 00:56:20.519
There's no way it was a bear. There was.

1173
00:56:20.679 --> 00:56:25.880
The arms were swinging, the legs were going. The ground

1174
00:56:26.119 --> 00:56:29.199
was that we did stop to look for It ran

1175
00:56:29.239 --> 00:56:33.039
across the road in front of the Volkswagen and we

1176
00:56:33.119 --> 00:56:36.519
stopped to see if we could find tracks, But the

1177
00:56:36.960 --> 00:56:40.840
way that the dirt was, you couldn't really see anything.

1178
00:56:42.039 --> 00:56:44.599
So that, yeah, that was when. First was when I

1179
00:56:44.679 --> 00:56:45.679
was eleven.

1180
00:56:45.599 --> 00:56:48.119
And the other one was nineteen when I did see

1181
00:56:48.199 --> 00:56:52.639
with my eyes and smelt with my nose. And then

1182
00:56:52.719 --> 00:56:55.679
there was another time when I was younger.

1183
00:56:56.559 --> 00:56:58.679
I didn't see anything but the.

1184
00:56:58.719 --> 00:57:04.280
Fear in my brother and step brothers voices and faces

1185
00:57:04.320 --> 00:57:07.960
and the rush to get back across the frozen lake.

1186
00:57:08.559 --> 00:57:11.760
I do believe that's what they saw. We were in

1187
00:57:12.039 --> 00:57:12.840
Big Bear.

1188
00:57:13.159 --> 00:57:17.159
And we were staying at at family friends cabin that

1189
00:57:17.360 --> 00:57:20.679
was on the lake, and it was winter. The lake

1190
00:57:20.840 --> 00:57:24.239
was frozen and we had gone across and it was

1191
00:57:24.280 --> 00:57:26.679
like frozen. People are out there on it all the time,

1192
00:57:27.320 --> 00:57:30.960
and there was like this clearing on the mountain across

1193
00:57:34.000 --> 00:57:36.679
the lake there, and we took our snow sleds and

1194
00:57:36.719 --> 00:57:39.159
we were snow sledding, and we'd been sledding for a

1195
00:57:39.199 --> 00:57:43.880
while and my brothers had just pushed me down to

1196
00:57:44.000 --> 00:57:47.679
go down the hill and I'm woo.

1197
00:57:47.199 --> 00:57:49.360
And I'm going for a great ride.

1198
00:57:49.480 --> 00:57:51.719
And I get to the bottom of the hill and

1199
00:57:51.760 --> 00:57:54.400
I pick up my sled and turn around to go

1200
00:57:54.480 --> 00:57:58.880
back up the hill, and I see my brothers running

1201
00:57:59.000 --> 00:58:02.679
back there down the hill and they're yelling run and

1202
00:58:02.719 --> 00:58:08.199
waving their hands. And I was just stunned for a moment,

1203
00:58:08.639 --> 00:58:11.440
and I did turn and start running, and they ended

1204
00:58:11.519 --> 00:58:14.440
up catching up to me, and my brother picked me

1205
00:58:14.559 --> 00:58:17.480
up and threw me on to the sled and they

1206
00:58:17.519 --> 00:58:20.000
grabbed a hold of the rope and they were just running.

1207
00:58:20.639 --> 00:58:21.519
I didn't know why.

1208
00:58:21.679 --> 00:58:24.199
I just started crying. I was really little, and I

1209
00:58:24.280 --> 00:58:29.599
started crying. They ran across the lake with me, and.

1210
00:58:29.440 --> 00:58:32.719
I'm like, what, why, What's going on? And all of that.

1211
00:58:32.920 --> 00:58:38.239
We get back to the parents and based I'm listening

1212
00:58:38.280 --> 00:58:42.960
to them telling that after they'd slid me down the

1213
00:58:43.079 --> 00:58:49.039
hill that the bigfoot ran across from the one forest

1214
00:58:49.119 --> 00:58:53.880
to the next forest area from where we were snowsledding

1215
00:58:54.320 --> 00:58:57.599
right behind me. They never said that it trila was

1216
00:58:57.639 --> 00:59:00.360
like trying to get me or anything like that.

1217
00:59:00.639 --> 00:59:03.840
But yeah, so that was like probably that.

1218
00:59:03.719 --> 00:59:06.079
Would have been actually the first time, but I didn't

1219
00:59:06.119 --> 00:59:07.159
see what they saw.

1220
00:59:08.559 --> 00:59:11.079
Oh my goodness. When you were in the Shasta, were

1221
00:59:11.119 --> 00:59:13.800
you guys camped up on the mountain itself?

1222
00:59:16.039 --> 00:59:19.719
Yes, we were like in the area of Cougar Meadows

1223
00:59:19.800 --> 00:59:20.280
up there.

1224
00:59:21.079 --> 00:59:24.280
So is that like Panther Meadows.

1225
00:59:25.559 --> 00:59:29.360
Panther Meadows, Yes, Yeah, that's okay, that area there, Yeah,

1226
00:59:29.760 --> 00:59:32.320
so below where the old ski lodge was.

1227
00:59:33.119 --> 00:59:35.400
Yep, I've heard there's a lot of weird stuff that

1228
00:59:35.480 --> 00:59:36.400
happens in that area.

1229
00:59:38.840 --> 00:59:44.679
Yeah, And that's there's a very small, like spring kind

1230
00:59:44.760 --> 00:59:50.239
of creek that goes through that meadows, and we used

1231
00:59:50.239 --> 00:59:53.519
to find all kinds of little bones and all kinds

1232
00:59:53.559 --> 00:59:54.519
of stuff in there.

1233
00:59:56.360 --> 00:59:56.599
Yeah.

1234
00:59:56.679 --> 01:00:00.480
Oh really, yeah, I've yeah, I.

1235
01:00:00.480 --> 01:00:04.360
Definitely have lots of different stories of all kinds of.

1236
01:00:06.440 --> 01:00:09.519
Just I guess you supernatural.

1237
01:00:08.840 --> 01:00:12.320
Paranormal, whatever category you want to put it into.

1238
01:00:12.440 --> 01:00:16.280
When I was living up on Mount Shasta.

1239
01:00:16.360 --> 01:00:18.639
Oh so were you also seeing like lights in the

1240
01:00:18.679 --> 01:00:20.440
woods or things like that.

1241
01:00:20.360 --> 01:00:25.360
Too, Yes, yeah, yeah, pretty much a little bit of

1242
01:00:25.440 --> 01:00:29.280
everything I'm about Recheurn fifty nine and that was when

1243
01:00:29.400 --> 01:00:32.880
I was nineteen that I was living up there. It's

1244
01:00:32.960 --> 01:00:37.199
amazing that where we are now with all the different

1245
01:00:37.239 --> 01:00:41.360
shows and different stuff those that have come out, it

1246
01:00:41.440 --> 01:00:44.320
is what's the word I'm looking for. It's put me

1247
01:00:44.440 --> 01:00:47.920
at ease that the things that I've experienced that it

1248
01:00:48.119 --> 01:00:52.159
wasn't just something that I was thinking that was happening

1249
01:00:52.239 --> 01:00:54.320
at the time or stuff like that.

1250
01:00:55.000 --> 01:00:56.599
We climbed up to the.

1251
01:00:56.400 --> 01:01:01.000
Caves at Shasta, like the Big Owl. I've caves that

1252
01:01:01.599 --> 01:01:04.599
we all anybody that pretty much is going to be

1253
01:01:05.960 --> 01:01:08.960
following Bigfoot. I'm sure you guys have all heard the

1254
01:01:09.079 --> 01:01:11.599
stories of the caves on Shasta, and.

1255
01:01:13.079 --> 01:01:15.079
Yeah, it's a pretty you know what, I don't know

1256
01:01:15.119 --> 01:01:21.960
if I ever have is there a story about those caves.

1257
01:01:20.920 --> 01:01:25.199
From different stories, I've heard that people believe that UFOs

1258
01:01:25.280 --> 01:01:29.760
come and go from those caves, right, Yeah, just lots

1259
01:01:29.840 --> 01:01:31.760
of other stuff like that.

1260
01:01:34.760 --> 01:01:37.159
Now when you were in that area. Did a lot

1261
01:01:37.199 --> 01:01:41.320
of people have stories of seeing actually seeing big up

1262
01:01:41.360 --> 01:01:42.880
in that area.

1263
01:01:44.360 --> 01:01:46.880
No, not at the time, but a lot of this

1264
01:01:47.000 --> 01:01:51.039
stuff that I experienced.

1265
01:01:50.280 --> 01:01:52.760
On my own or with the group.

1266
01:01:53.320 --> 01:01:57.480
We talked about it amongst ourselves, of course, but it

1267
01:01:57.599 --> 01:02:00.519
wasn't a lot of the things that I experienced.

1268
01:02:00.199 --> 01:02:01.559
In my younger years.

1269
01:02:02.400 --> 01:02:05.840
I never really spoke with about too many other people

1270
01:02:06.039 --> 01:02:11.199
until probably just this past what fifteen.

1271
01:02:10.960 --> 01:02:12.960
Years or so, twenty years.

1272
01:02:13.480 --> 01:02:18.199
Wow, Yeah, that's awesome that you're able to finally come.

1273
01:02:18.119 --> 01:02:20.119
Forward where it's become more open.

1274
01:02:20.559 --> 01:02:25.320
I had no idea when I lived in San Lorenzo

1275
01:02:25.480 --> 01:02:29.719
Valley above Santa Cruz, California.

1276
01:02:30.360 --> 01:02:35.000
I guess per seeing it on a show on one

1277
01:02:35.039 --> 01:02:35.280
of the.

1278
01:02:35.239 --> 01:02:41.360
Bigfoot shows, there's that museum in ben Loman.

1279
01:02:41.480 --> 01:02:44.079
Now have you heard of that?

1280
01:02:45.519 --> 01:02:46.039
Where is this?

1281
01:02:46.480 --> 01:02:52.920
The Bigfoot Museum Ben Loman, California? What I heard on

1282
01:02:52.960 --> 01:02:58.320
that the Bigfoot show that ben I believe it's Ben Lohman.

1283
01:02:58.960 --> 01:03:02.679
It's either Felt or Ben Lohman. It's a long Highway

1284
01:03:02.800 --> 01:03:07.400
nine in the San Lorenzo Valley, and I guess they

1285
01:03:07.480 --> 01:03:13.840
say that it's one of the most active Shasquatch Bigfoot areas.

1286
01:03:14.280 --> 01:03:16.360
I know exactly what you're talking about now. That was

1287
01:03:16.800 --> 01:03:21.400
the Bigfoot Discovery Museum and felt, unfortunately I believe has

1288
01:03:21.519 --> 01:03:25.519
closed just because of lack of funding and the owner,

1289
01:03:25.639 --> 01:03:32.280
Mike Rugg, was unable to be pretty much respired from it. Yeah,

1290
01:03:32.320 --> 01:03:35.159
but another one I could recommend is a Cliff Rickman

1291
01:03:35.199 --> 01:03:38.280
in this museum up in Boring. O're again, the North

1292
01:03:38.320 --> 01:03:41.679
American Big Center is incredible if you're ever up there.

1293
01:03:45.239 --> 01:03:49.159
I just had no idea until many years after moving

1294
01:03:49.199 --> 01:03:55.800
away that was known as a very active bigfoot area.

1295
01:03:58.639 --> 01:04:03.360
Absolutely, this conversation has been really interesting. I could use

1296
01:04:03.400 --> 01:04:05.360
it in my Bigfoot podcast that I have.

1297
01:04:06.920 --> 01:04:08.559
Of course, that's really cool.

1298
01:04:08.679 --> 01:04:10.519
Thank you, awesome, very good.

1299
01:04:10.599 --> 01:04:10.800
Hey.

1300
01:04:11.280 --> 01:04:13.719
Feel free to reach out if you have any other

1301
01:04:14.760 --> 01:04:18.039
things that you experience in the future. But this has

1302
01:04:18.079 --> 01:04:19.639
been really fun talking to you today.

1303
01:04:19.679 --> 01:04:19.960
Thank you.

1304
01:04:22.159 --> 01:04:24.079
For having me up, thank you for asking me to

1305
01:04:24.119 --> 01:04:24.519
come up.

1306
01:04:26.039 --> 01:04:33.679
Thank you, Bobby, good stuff. I'll tell you what, this

1307
01:04:33.719 --> 01:04:36.760
is quite a night. I'm going for a few hours

1308
01:04:37.360 --> 01:04:45.480
on here. I think it is time to call it

1309
01:04:45.519 --> 01:04:47.840
a night. I know that there might be a few

1310
01:04:47.880 --> 01:04:51.000
people that are still wanting to come up. Feel free

1311
01:04:51.039 --> 01:04:54.239
if you would like to share any other experiences you

1312
01:04:54.320 --> 01:04:56.760
have or sightings. I would love to hear about them.

1313
01:04:56.760 --> 01:04:59.400
You can send me an email Bigfoot Society gmail dot

1314
01:04:59.440 --> 01:05:03.760
com where you can wait until I do another live.

1315
01:05:04.719 --> 01:05:08.119
Make sure you are following this account. I hit the

1316
01:05:08.280 --> 01:05:11.199
an notifications on so you don't miss out on any

1317
01:05:11.360 --> 01:05:15.360
other future lives. And I hope to talk to you then.

1318
01:05:15.440 --> 01:05:19.519
And thanks to everyone who shared tonight and appreciate you

1319
01:05:19.519 --> 01:05:22.159
all being here. Have a good one. We'll talk to

1320
01:05:22.199 --> 01:05:27.000
you later. Hey, Steve, how are you Hey?

1321
01:05:27.039 --> 01:05:27.639
How you doing?

1322
01:05:28.320 --> 01:05:28.440
Hey?

1323
01:05:28.559 --> 01:05:31.159
Doing great? I say your comment looks pretty interesting.

1324
01:05:32.239 --> 01:05:35.639
Yeah. I bought a new boat and me, my wife

1325
01:05:35.679 --> 01:05:39.320
and my daughter was heading up to Potoka Lake up

1326
01:05:39.360 --> 01:05:43.400
in Indiana. We's going up there to camp with a

1327
01:05:43.440 --> 01:05:47.719
bunch of friends for the fourth of July. And it

1328
01:05:47.800 --> 01:05:51.719
was on July third, nineteen ninety six, and I was

1329
01:05:51.880 --> 01:05:55.400
just getting ready to make a turn toward the lake

1330
01:05:56.440 --> 01:05:59.880
and my daughter, which she was probably i'd say about

1331
01:06:00.119 --> 01:06:03.440
fourteen twelve or thirteen fourteen, something like that at the time,

1332
01:06:04.800 --> 01:06:08.360
and I heard her say, look, Daddy, somebody's pet gorilla

1333
01:06:08.400 --> 01:06:12.039
got out, And of course I thought, what the heck?

1334
01:06:12.440 --> 01:06:15.119
And I turned around and my wife said, what is that?

1335
01:06:16.239 --> 01:06:20.840
And I looked in about it. I guess it was probably, oh,

1336
01:06:21.159 --> 01:06:23.480
I would say, maybe one hundred to one hundred and

1337
01:06:23.480 --> 01:06:26.719
twenty yards away, and it was kind of walking along

1338
01:06:26.760 --> 01:06:31.920
the bank, just through the weeds, and it was walking

1339
01:06:31.920 --> 01:06:34.920
away from us. I never did see the face. I've

1340
01:06:34.960 --> 01:06:37.280
seen the whole backside and kind of part of the

1341
01:06:37.360 --> 01:06:41.559
right side of it, and it was an orangeish brown,

1342
01:06:41.840 --> 01:06:44.800
and on the top of its head I guess you

1343
01:06:44.840 --> 01:06:48.400
would call like the main it had a I guess

1344
01:06:48.440 --> 01:06:50.719
what should have been like a white streak come down

1345
01:06:50.800 --> 01:06:53.599
like what you would see off a skunk. But it

1346
01:06:53.639 --> 01:06:57.920
was a real dingy, musky looking yellow. You could tell

1347
01:06:57.960 --> 01:07:01.840
it was dirty, just filthy dirty, and it walked and

1348
01:07:01.920 --> 01:07:04.639
of course back then there was no cell phones for

1349
01:07:04.800 --> 01:07:08.440
us anyway, no cell phones. My camera was under the

1350
01:07:08.440 --> 01:07:11.599
seat of my boat, and the whole top of the

1351
01:07:11.599 --> 01:07:13.960
boat was loaded with chairs and tents, and it was

1352
01:07:14.000 --> 01:07:17.000
all buckled down, so I couldn't get to my camera.

1353
01:07:18.159 --> 01:07:20.119
And by the time I got out of my truck,

1354
01:07:20.199 --> 01:07:22.519
I had a whole line of cars beeping because I

1355
01:07:22.639 --> 01:07:27.639
was blocking traffic. So we get to the camp site

1356
01:07:27.840 --> 01:07:31.079
where all my neighbors and friends were at, and I

1357
01:07:31.119 --> 01:07:33.559
told them about it. Of course, they started making fun

1358
01:07:33.559 --> 01:07:36.360
of me, and I said, so I told the men,

1359
01:07:36.440 --> 01:07:39.119
I said, come on, let's go. I know where this

1360
01:07:39.199 --> 01:07:43.039
thing is at. I said we can get there by boat.

1361
01:07:44.480 --> 01:07:46.760
And of course all the people that was making fun

1362
01:07:46.840 --> 01:07:48.639
of me, all of a sudden started going, I'm not

1363
01:07:48.760 --> 01:07:52.159
going up Heck, no, I'm not going up there. And

1364
01:07:52.199 --> 01:07:54.280
I said, come on, you all sit here making fun

1365
01:07:54.320 --> 01:07:56.599
of me, let's go. Let's see if we can find tracks.

1366
01:07:57.119 --> 01:08:00.159
And I couldn't get anybody to go with me. So

1367
01:08:00.199 --> 01:08:03.159
that was about the only encounter I ever had. But

1368
01:08:03.320 --> 01:08:06.960
it was big. I can't tell you how tall it was.

1369
01:08:07.039 --> 01:08:10.480
I never could compare it to a tree, but it

1370
01:08:10.599 --> 01:08:13.360
was huge. It would have been three or four of

1371
01:08:13.360 --> 01:08:16.840
me and I'm six two and close to three hundred pounds,

1372
01:08:17.359 --> 01:08:20.720
and it was way way bigger than me. But I

1373
01:08:20.760 --> 01:08:23.239
never did get a chance to go look far to anything.

1374
01:08:24.439 --> 01:08:26.560
But that was it. That's my brief encounter.

1375
01:08:27.439 --> 01:08:30.880
Wow, Steuz, that that is some wild stuff. Thank you

1376
01:08:30.960 --> 01:08:33.199
for sharing so that you saw. It was about a

1377
01:08:33.239 --> 01:08:34.920
football field length away.

1378
01:08:34.920 --> 01:08:37.800
It sounds like I would say about one hundred to

1379
01:08:37.880 --> 01:08:39.880
hundred and twenty yards, But like I said, I never

1380
01:08:39.920 --> 01:08:42.039
got a look at the faith. It was walking away

1381
01:08:42.079 --> 01:08:45.079
from me at about a forty five degree angle. I

1382
01:08:45.199 --> 01:08:49.640
was angling off the right shoulder. But yeah, my daughter

1383
01:08:49.960 --> 01:08:53.520
screams out, look, Daddy, somebody's pet gorilla got out.

1384
01:08:54.359 --> 01:08:54.960
Oh my goodness.

1385
01:08:55.000 --> 01:08:57.720
So that's that's wow. That kind of got my attention

1386
01:08:57.920 --> 01:08:59.640
right away.

1387
01:09:00.079 --> 01:09:01.640
To have a shape to its head at all that

1388
01:09:01.680 --> 01:09:02.720
you could see.

1389
01:09:02.960 --> 01:09:06.640
I tell you it was. There was no I'm trying

1390
01:09:06.680 --> 01:09:09.079
to think of how it would compare it to. Its

1391
01:09:09.159 --> 01:09:13.199
head came down, the hair was long, the head kind

1392
01:09:13.239 --> 01:09:16.199
of round it, and then it just it was big headed,

1393
01:09:16.279 --> 01:09:19.119
and then went out to the shoulders. It wasn't like

1394
01:09:19.359 --> 01:09:22.640
you could see a neck or anything. It was just

1395
01:09:22.680 --> 01:09:25.760
almost like if you draped a sheet over it that

1396
01:09:25.880 --> 01:09:29.479
it would be just a slight definition between the neck

1397
01:09:29.560 --> 01:09:32.319
and the shoulders and the head. It was almost like

1398
01:09:32.359 --> 01:09:35.840
a just more of a round look. I couldn't see ears,

1399
01:09:36.600 --> 01:09:38.640
of course. I don't guess my vision was that good

1400
01:09:38.640 --> 01:09:40.560
that I could have seen its at one hundred and

1401
01:09:40.600 --> 01:09:44.039
some odd yards. But all I remember was that I

1402
01:09:44.079 --> 01:09:47.159
do remember was the white or what like I said,

1403
01:09:47.199 --> 01:09:50.600
I'm assuming was supposed to be white, that was coming

1404
01:09:50.640 --> 01:09:54.039
down the back of its head and was going down

1405
01:09:54.439 --> 01:09:57.600
if I remember right it going down the left shoulder

1406
01:09:58.239 --> 01:10:01.640
and it was just a dingy, musky yellow.

1407
01:10:04.960 --> 01:10:08.199
Did you notice anything about the arms or the hands

1408
01:10:08.239 --> 01:10:10.399
at all? Could you see any details with that?

1409
01:10:12.079 --> 01:10:14.439
Just the the arms were a little bit longer. I

1410
01:10:14.479 --> 01:10:17.399
think that that's what made my daughter mainly think with

1411
01:10:17.479 --> 01:10:19.760
the fur and the longer arms, while she thought it

1412
01:10:19.760 --> 01:10:24.399
was a gorilla. Now the feet. I never did see

1413
01:10:24.439 --> 01:10:27.600
the feet. I could see it from about the knees

1414
01:10:27.920 --> 01:10:31.560
knee area up because it was walking along the bank,

1415
01:10:31.640 --> 01:10:35.000
which was actually the bank that was there was an

1416
01:10:35.079 --> 01:10:37.520
area that just floods every once in a while. It

1417
01:10:37.560 --> 01:10:42.720
doesn't always stay water, but it floods quite often, so

1418
01:10:42.800 --> 01:10:45.920
the grass gets pretty high there, and it was walking

1419
01:10:45.960 --> 01:10:48.800
through grass which would have been about to its knee level.

1420
01:10:48.880 --> 01:10:51.600
So I never did see the feet, but I did

1421
01:10:51.680 --> 01:10:55.279
want to get in my boat and go over there.

1422
01:10:55.720 --> 01:10:57.560
And because I couldn't have got to it from where

1423
01:10:57.560 --> 01:11:00.199
I was standing, I would have had to walk a

1424
01:11:00.199 --> 01:11:02.680
bunch of water. But I knew I could get there

1425
01:11:02.680 --> 01:11:06.279
with my boat, and I wanted to hopefully get there

1426
01:11:06.319 --> 01:11:08.039
and see if I could get some looks at the

1427
01:11:08.119 --> 01:11:10.720
tracks or something, because by that time I could have

1428
01:11:10.760 --> 01:11:12.920
gotten my boat and got the camera out and took

1429
01:11:12.960 --> 01:11:15.960
pictures of it. I wouldn't have had any access to

1430
01:11:15.960 --> 01:11:19.520
any plaster Paris or anything, but I thought it'd be

1431
01:11:19.560 --> 01:11:22.399
pretty neat if I could have got some pictures. But then,

1432
01:11:22.439 --> 01:11:24.520
of course, we went on with our weekend. It was

1433
01:11:24.600 --> 01:11:27.560
just a little bit, probably a three or four hours

1434
01:11:27.600 --> 01:11:30.520
for dark. Then we started getting into the Fourth of

1435
01:11:30.600 --> 01:11:33.439
July stuff, and then taking the boat out and everybody

1436
01:11:33.520 --> 01:11:36.039
wanting to fish and ski and all that, and so

1437
01:11:36.079 --> 01:11:39.640
we just went on with our weekend. But I told

1438
01:11:39.680 --> 01:11:43.039
the stories, and one of my buddies here, he lives

1439
01:11:43.039 --> 01:11:46.960
in Louisville, Kentucky, and he was making fun of me,

1440
01:11:47.000 --> 01:11:49.840
and two of his uncles lived up there around Potoka Lake.

1441
01:11:50.760 --> 01:11:53.760
And when he was telling them the story, his uncle

1442
01:11:53.800 --> 01:11:57.880
told me he said, Mike, don't laugh. He said, I'm

1443
01:11:57.920 --> 01:12:01.920
going to tell you a story. He said about thirty

1444
01:12:02.000 --> 01:12:03.680
years ago. He said, me and a buddy of mine

1445
01:12:03.720 --> 01:12:06.960
was out drinking, and he said, right there by, who's

1446
01:12:06.960 --> 01:12:10.520
your national forest? He said, one jumped out in front

1447
01:12:10.600 --> 01:12:13.680
of us, about three o'clock in the morning, and he said.

1448
01:12:13.720 --> 01:12:15.880
We looked at each other, and we swore to each

1449
01:12:15.920 --> 01:12:18.800
other that we would never tell the story and he said,

1450
01:12:18.840 --> 01:12:21.239
I've never said a word about it until just now.

1451
01:12:21.319 --> 01:12:23.359
He said, so don't laugh at him. I've seen it.

1452
01:12:24.239 --> 01:12:26.640
And then all of a sudden, now he believes me.

1453
01:12:26.680 --> 01:12:28.640
Now he didn't believe me until his uncle said it

1454
01:12:28.640 --> 01:12:30.640
was true. I get ribbed about it all the time.

1455
01:12:30.760 --> 01:12:33.199
They always say bigfoot. Lately, I said, I've never said

1456
01:12:33.199 --> 01:12:36.359
it was bigfoot. I just said I seen something that

1457
01:12:36.560 --> 01:12:39.199
was really big and it looked like a big gorilla.

1458
01:12:39.479 --> 01:12:42.880
That's all I know. That had more of a man

1459
01:12:42.960 --> 01:12:44.760
shape to me. I think it had more like it

1460
01:12:44.960 --> 01:12:46.760
with the shoulders and everything. It wasn't like it was

1461
01:12:46.840 --> 01:12:50.359
hump backed and everything. It was standing upright and it

1462
01:12:50.439 --> 01:12:53.279
was taking long, taking good strides the best I could tell,

1463
01:12:53.399 --> 01:12:55.760
Like I said, it was walking through weeds around your

1464
01:12:55.880 --> 01:12:58.119
national forest. I don't know if you'd heard anything about

1465
01:12:58.239 --> 01:13:00.600
up around who's your national forest?

1466
01:13:00.880 --> 01:13:03.640
Oh yeah, I've talked to a few individuals that have

1467
01:13:03.720 --> 01:13:07.119
had encounters in Hoosier and there's a lot of activity

1468
01:13:07.279 --> 01:13:11.640
in that forest going on. Oh yeah, yeah, big time.

1469
01:13:12.279 --> 01:13:16.119
I'd like to see it. When I was young, I'm

1470
01:13:16.119 --> 01:13:18.479
almost seventy years old now, but when I was younger,

1471
01:13:19.000 --> 01:13:22.039
I spent a lot of time in the woods and

1472
01:13:23.079 --> 01:13:26.199
I and people they think I'm nuts anyway, I guess

1473
01:13:26.239 --> 01:13:30.039
because I've seen bear where there's not supposed to be

1474
01:13:30.079 --> 01:13:32.680
any bear. But then all of a sudden a bear

1475
01:13:32.720 --> 01:13:34.840
gets hit out on the road. Then all of a sudden,

1476
01:13:35.039 --> 01:13:38.239
I'm not so nuts anymore. And I was hunting in

1477
01:13:38.319 --> 01:13:43.680
Kentucky and came upon a mountain lion. And I told everybody.

1478
01:13:43.680 --> 01:13:45.920
I said, Hey, I was deer hunting, seen a mountain lion.

1479
01:13:46.000 --> 01:13:48.279
They go, yeah, all the big foot mountain lions bear.

1480
01:13:48.720 --> 01:13:50.920
The next thing, you know, guy gets a picture of

1481
01:13:50.960 --> 01:13:53.720
mountain lined up here off sixteen thirty eight by Fort Knock,

1482
01:13:53.800 --> 01:13:56.840
which is just about three hundred yards away from where

1483
01:13:56.840 --> 01:13:58.920
I've seen a mountain lion. Then all of a sudden,

1484
01:13:59.159 --> 01:14:01.560
I'm not still nuts anymore, but nobody wants to believe

1485
01:14:01.600 --> 01:14:05.520
me until something else has to happen to make it true.

1486
01:14:05.600 --> 01:14:09.079
Oh absolutely, thank you for coming up. And is this

1487
01:14:09.199 --> 01:14:12.479
a conversation I could play on the big Foot podcast

1488
01:14:12.520 --> 01:14:12.840
that I have.

1489
01:14:13.840 --> 01:14:15.399
Oh sure, sure, anytime.

1490
01:14:15.520 --> 01:14:17.560
Awesome. We keep us in the loosers wait.

1491
01:14:17.399 --> 01:14:20.239
Here waiting to see uh spaceship now.

1492
01:14:22.560 --> 01:14:25.239
It could be coming, you never know, but thanks for chaling.

1493
01:14:25.560 --> 01:14:27.359
Wait this world going. You don't know what you go

1494
01:14:27.479 --> 01:14:30.319
to see now, oh I know, but you feel free

1495
01:14:30.359 --> 01:14:34.920
to use it, all right, thank you? All right? Thanks?

1496
01:14:37.600 --> 01:14:38.720
Hey sir, how are you doing?

1497
01:14:39.680 --> 01:14:44.439
He good? I saw that you had the sighting in Colorado?

1498
01:14:44.600 --> 01:14:45.039
Is that right?

1499
01:14:45.479 --> 01:14:45.680
Yeah?

1500
01:14:45.720 --> 01:14:48.479
It was in real forest near Bear Creek. But this

1501
01:14:48.600 --> 01:14:51.760
was in the eighties, a long time ago. We were

1502
01:14:51.760 --> 01:14:54.680
on our senior trip and there were six of us,

1503
01:14:55.319 --> 01:14:58.319
three guys, three girls. Only three of us saw it,

1504
01:14:58.399 --> 01:15:01.319
two girls, one guy. I was the guy, and I'll

1505
01:15:01.359 --> 01:15:03.560
be honest, I don't know what it was exactly. It

1506
01:15:03.640 --> 01:15:07.239
wasn't a freaking bear. It wasn't a coyote or any

1507
01:15:07.239 --> 01:15:10.359
animal I've ever seen. And it was gigantic, how tall

1508
01:15:10.399 --> 01:15:14.079
it was? No idea distance and dark, just hard to judge.

1509
01:15:14.159 --> 01:15:16.720
What were the main things that you remember about it

1510
01:15:16.760 --> 01:15:18.840
that made you think that it was.

1511
01:15:18.840 --> 01:15:22.399
A time combs and stuff into the camp. We thought

1512
01:15:22.399 --> 01:15:26.359
it was squirrels at first. Squirrels would get upset. We

1513
01:15:26.680 --> 01:15:30.600
throw stuff out of the tree at you, but we

1514
01:15:30.640 --> 01:15:33.680
didn't realize what it was. Everybody was sleeping pretty much,

1515
01:15:33.760 --> 01:15:35.920
and I got up and the two girls that were

1516
01:15:35.960 --> 01:15:38.560
beside us, they got up and when they trained the

1517
01:15:38.560 --> 01:15:41.800
flashlight down the hill towards where the noise was coming,

1518
01:15:43.119 --> 01:15:46.199
and one of them was pretty clear, the back side

1519
01:15:46.239 --> 01:15:49.800
of it, anyway. But they moved like lightning, past like

1520
01:15:50.439 --> 01:15:53.359
thirty seconds, completely out of sight. But it was the

1521
01:15:53.359 --> 01:15:55.680
strangest thing I've ever seen. We went and looked where

1522
01:15:55.720 --> 01:15:59.560
they were after, and we did find some deep impressions

1523
01:15:59.560 --> 01:16:02.880
in the ground, not enough to make a cast out

1524
01:16:02.880 --> 01:16:06.039
of because the ground was still hard. But until then

1525
01:16:06.119 --> 01:16:09.600
we didn't believe Jack about it. And now ever since then,

1526
01:16:09.760 --> 01:16:12.600
I've been looking for stories that are similar. And I

1527
01:16:12.680 --> 01:16:15.680
don't know. I'm not one to say that that we

1528
01:16:15.680 --> 01:16:17.039
weren't hallucinating. Who knows.

1529
01:16:17.239 --> 01:16:20.399
Yeah, sure, sure they actually saw it in the flashlight though.

1530
01:16:20.720 --> 01:16:23.560
Oh yeah I did too. See I didn't have the flashlight, said.

1531
01:16:23.600 --> 01:16:25.760
The two girls came out after I did because I

1532
01:16:25.760 --> 01:16:27.720
thought a squirrel. I was gonna make some noise and

1533
01:16:27.760 --> 01:16:29.560
make them stop throwing this stuff on the tent so

1534
01:16:29.600 --> 01:16:34.159
I could get back to sleep. And I heard grunting

1535
01:16:34.439 --> 01:16:39.000
and banging and tapping noises, and the girls swung the

1536
01:16:39.000 --> 01:16:43.239
flashlight around past me down the hill, and one of

1537
01:16:43.319 --> 01:16:45.720
them was lit up. You could see his whole silhouette

1538
01:16:45.760 --> 01:16:48.159
the backside and maybe the left side of his face,

1539
01:16:49.880 --> 01:16:54.479
but hard to make out because I'm serious. Thirty seconds

1540
01:16:54.479 --> 01:16:56.319
they were out of sight and we didn't hear anything else.

1541
01:16:57.720 --> 01:17:00.600
So you're saying there was more than one there?

1542
01:17:01.159 --> 01:17:03.600
Oh, there was a small one behind it. You couldn't

1543
01:17:03.640 --> 01:17:05.520
make it out good because it was further down the

1544
01:17:05.600 --> 01:17:07.880
hill and there were more bushes in the way. But

1545
01:17:07.920 --> 01:17:09.840
there was another one. It wasn't just one of them.

1546
01:17:10.399 --> 01:17:12.319
Was there more than that? I couldn't tell you.

1547
01:17:14.079 --> 01:17:16.880
Oh wow, did you smell anything the ordinary?

1548
01:17:17.600 --> 01:17:17.720
You know?

1549
01:17:18.159 --> 01:17:21.359
I had read about the smells and stuff. We did not,

1550
01:17:21.800 --> 01:17:23.600
but it's windy. I don't know if the smell would

1551
01:17:23.600 --> 01:17:24.239
have stayed around.

1552
01:17:24.319 --> 01:17:28.920
Sure that area, the Bear Creek, Colorado area. Is that

1553
01:17:29.039 --> 01:17:31.520
the place that you ever went back to after that?

1554
01:17:32.439 --> 01:17:34.960
We were just there for the senior trip. I have

1555
01:17:35.159 --> 01:17:38.479
been back to call there, but not that exact area.

1556
01:17:38.600 --> 01:17:45.840
No, gotcha? And have you have you done any research

1557
01:17:45.880 --> 01:17:48.479
to see if anyone else has seen things in the

1558
01:17:48.479 --> 01:17:49.079
same area?

1559
01:17:49.800 --> 01:17:50.279
I did.

1560
01:17:50.359 --> 01:17:52.680
We asked a couple of people that were there and

1561
01:17:52.800 --> 01:17:56.399
a park ranger, and they say they would get sightings periodically,

1562
01:17:56.439 --> 01:17:59.199
but they always wrote it off as bears. But no, no,

1563
01:17:59.439 --> 01:18:02.560
it's so long ago. It was back eighty six eighty seven.

1564
01:18:02.560 --> 01:18:04.239
I want to make sure I have the right place.

1565
01:18:04.279 --> 01:18:08.760
So you said Bear Creek in Colorado? Are there any

1566
01:18:08.800 --> 01:18:12.920
other places near it that could be like a landmark

1567
01:18:13.000 --> 01:18:13.960
or a town or anything.

1568
01:18:14.039 --> 01:18:15.079
Go National Forest?

1569
01:18:15.319 --> 01:18:15.960
Is what a the end?

1570
01:18:16.880 --> 01:18:17.159
Okay?

1571
01:18:17.239 --> 01:18:23.239
Let me look, it's out here Reo National Forest. Oh real,

1572
01:18:23.319 --> 01:18:27.800
Grand National Forest. Yeah, I think that's what it was called. Yeah,

1573
01:18:27.840 --> 01:18:29.319
that's what it is. Okay, cool. I just want to

1574
01:18:29.319 --> 01:18:31.760
make sure of the right place for documenting it.

1575
01:18:33.479 --> 01:18:35.760
We were just on a senior trip. Our parents had

1576
01:18:35.760 --> 01:18:38.159
funded it. We thought it'd be cool. We never went.

1577
01:18:38.319 --> 01:18:41.439
That's cool. I actually don't have any reports from this area,

1578
01:18:41.640 --> 01:18:47.159
so I appreciate you coming up and sharing what you experienced.

1579
01:18:47.319 --> 01:18:49.680
Is this a story I could share on the big

1580
01:18:49.720 --> 01:18:50.680
Foot podcast that I.

1581
01:18:50.640 --> 01:18:53.560
Have, Yeah, you can share it. I'm not ashamed of it. Heck,

1582
01:18:53.600 --> 01:18:56.079
it happened so long. I'm almost seventy years old now,

1583
01:18:56.119 --> 01:18:59.159
so sure. It's not like I worry if people are

1584
01:18:59.159 --> 01:18:59.960
going to think I'm great.

1585
01:19:02.560 --> 01:19:04.800
I don't think so, Sari, and I appreciate you coming

1586
01:19:04.840 --> 01:19:05.800
up and chatting tonight.

1587
01:19:06.640 --> 01:19:08.279
Oh you too, sir. I have a blessed day.

1588
01:19:08.960 --> 01:19:11.039
Hey Kimmy, how are you? I haven't gotten a chance

1589
01:19:11.079 --> 01:19:12.399
to look at your pictures yet.

1590
01:19:12.680 --> 01:19:13.239
I'm good.

1591
01:19:15.720 --> 01:19:19.239
I lived in North Georgia and there have been many

1592
01:19:19.399 --> 01:19:21.079
fightings in North Georgia.

1593
01:19:21.720 --> 01:19:23.840
Absolutely, But back.

1594
01:19:23.600 --> 01:19:28.560
In January we had a major ice storm and it

1595
01:19:28.600 --> 01:19:31.000
was a big eye storm and everything was frozen for

1596
01:19:31.039 --> 01:19:34.319
about three days. And I don't have anybody that comes

1597
01:19:34.399 --> 01:19:36.439
up and down my road except for me and my daughter.

1598
01:19:37.359 --> 01:19:39.680
And one morning I got up to take my dog down,

1599
01:19:40.720 --> 01:19:45.399
and that's about all his deer tracks, animal tracks, or

1600
01:19:45.439 --> 01:19:49.399
my dog tracks. And I'm always watching. And we didn't

1601
01:19:49.479 --> 01:19:52.159
use my front steps because there was so much ice

1602
01:19:52.199 --> 01:19:54.920
on it. We'd go out the garage door, but I

1603
01:19:55.039 --> 01:19:57.159
always took the dog out off the porch.

1604
01:19:57.199 --> 01:19:59.520
He would get on the steps. But when I got

1605
01:19:59.560 --> 01:20:00.720
out at the bottom.

1606
01:20:00.479 --> 01:20:02.640
Of the took the dog out, I was standing at

1607
01:20:02.680 --> 01:20:05.199
the top and I looked down and noticed these footprints,

1608
01:20:05.279 --> 01:20:09.279
and I'm like, who's been here? Because at first I'm

1609
01:20:09.319 --> 01:20:12.880
thinking it was a bootprint, But then when I got

1610
01:20:12.920 --> 01:20:16.760
to looking, it looked like it had weird you could

1611
01:20:16.800 --> 01:20:21.039
see toes through it. It was very heavy prints. It

1612
01:20:21.119 --> 01:20:23.439
wasn't it was a lot of ice to go through,

1613
01:20:23.439 --> 01:20:27.079
so whatever it was heavy, it looked like you men

1614
01:20:27.800 --> 01:20:33.840
type feet. And if you zoom into the pictures that

1615
01:20:33.880 --> 01:20:36.479
I sent you, you can see that there are toes

1616
01:20:36.880 --> 01:20:42.199
in there. You can see how heavy the whatever it

1617
01:20:42.359 --> 01:20:46.840
was is, because I am one hundred and fifty pounds

1618
01:20:47.000 --> 01:20:49.960
five eight and I went out there and stomped on

1619
01:20:50.079 --> 01:20:53.920
that ice because it wasn't there the night before. And

1620
01:20:53.960 --> 01:20:56.000
I went out and stomped on the ice to see

1621
01:20:56.119 --> 01:20:59.760
how deep I could get it. And I put a

1622
01:20:59.800 --> 01:21:02.520
picture in there also of my foot next to that foot,

1623
01:21:04.920 --> 01:21:07.239
of me stomping. And I couldn't even get down to

1624
01:21:07.279 --> 01:21:09.119
the bottom of the ice. But this was all the

1625
01:21:09.119 --> 01:21:10.600
way almost to the Green Creek.

1626
01:21:13.119 --> 01:21:17.800
Oh wow, And you said north Georgia. Yes, are you

1627
01:21:17.880 --> 01:21:22.079
able to share if this is like Chattahoochee National Forest

1628
01:21:22.239 --> 01:21:23.880
or Northwest Georgia or.

1629
01:21:23.880 --> 01:21:28.119
It was Chathhooche National Forest, that's cool. Yes.

1630
01:21:28.319 --> 01:21:31.560
I looked up local sightings and they are all the

1631
01:21:31.600 --> 01:21:36.000
way up from Delonica to through Helen, all the way

1632
01:21:36.079 --> 01:21:41.640
up into where I'm at, and they were older ridings.

1633
01:21:43.439 --> 01:21:47.840
But I had not seen anything but one night, one afternoon,

1634
01:21:47.840 --> 01:21:51.239
I was in my bedroom and I kept hearing this

1635
01:21:51.640 --> 01:21:55.239
god awful sound that sounded like a bear and a moose,

1636
01:21:55.520 --> 01:21:59.199
almost like a gurgle, and I went outside to hear

1637
01:21:59.239 --> 01:22:01.199
what to see if I could see what it was,

1638
01:22:01.279 --> 01:22:03.880
because there are a lot of deer. We don't have

1639
01:22:04.000 --> 01:22:09.000
moose here, but we do have bears. And it bellowed

1640
01:22:09.199 --> 01:22:12.119
from the bottom of my property. And I wasn't stupid

1641
01:22:12.199 --> 01:22:14.359
enough to go down to check it out. I wasn't

1642
01:22:14.399 --> 01:22:17.680
going to go looking for this whatever it was. But

1643
01:22:18.439 --> 01:22:21.880
nobody could explain the sound to me, because I did.

1644
01:22:22.000 --> 01:22:26.359
I got it on a recording, but it was very

1645
01:22:26.359 --> 01:22:30.279
thing because byfore it that was like at ten in

1646
01:22:30.319 --> 01:22:33.119
the morning and then by four in the afternoon, I

1647
01:22:33.119 --> 01:22:35.920
could still hear it groaning as if it was injured.

1648
01:22:37.159 --> 01:22:38.439
Do you still have that recording?

1649
01:22:38.960 --> 01:22:43.039
It is on another it's on another TikTok.

1650
01:22:42.560 --> 01:22:42.920
That I have.

1651
01:22:43.640 --> 01:22:47.239
Oh, okay, gotcha, So I'll have to let me make

1652
01:22:47.279 --> 01:22:49.399
sure I'm following you and I'll make sure i'll check

1653
01:22:49.439 --> 01:22:52.319
that out. Wow, that's cool. Have you ever heard the

1654
01:22:52.399 --> 01:22:56.239
story of what happened in in dol Enega Dela.

1655
01:22:56.720 --> 01:22:59.560
Yeah, that's the one that with the I don't know.

1656
01:22:59.600 --> 01:23:02.640
I've heard so many, researched so many, but I did

1657
01:23:02.640 --> 01:23:04.439
see where there was one where.

1658
01:23:04.560 --> 01:23:08.279
Or heard where people I live at the Hills of the.

1659
01:23:11.000 --> 01:23:14.239
Might at the Trail of Tears, Okay, the hills of

1660
01:23:14.319 --> 01:23:20.199
the Appalachian Mountains or the Appalachian Trail. So you hear

1661
01:23:20.239 --> 01:23:23.159
of a lot of people coming up missing and then

1662
01:23:23.239 --> 01:23:27.359
finding their tents and their stuff and not finding them.

1663
01:23:28.520 --> 01:23:33.399
But I've actually heard somebody did a like a podcast

1664
01:23:33.600 --> 01:23:37.439
or a video of people in Helen that had reported

1665
01:23:38.079 --> 01:23:38.920
sightings and.

1666
01:23:38.880 --> 01:23:42.680
There was yeah, hell, Helen has some stuff. And the

1667
01:23:42.720 --> 01:23:51.720
one that I heard, and so the story I heard

1668
01:23:51.760 --> 01:23:55.119
on my show was that there was a Cobra helicopter

1669
01:23:55.399 --> 01:23:59.880
crash and then the soldiers guarding the wreck saw two

1670
01:24:00.159 --> 01:24:04.000
three large figures that looked like Bigfoot trying to get

1671
01:24:04.039 --> 01:24:10.479
into the cockpit before pretty much they started firing warning

1672
01:24:10.520 --> 01:24:12.960
shots at them, and that that's what got them to

1673
01:24:13.000 --> 01:24:15.199
flee or to get the bigfoot out of there. And

1674
01:24:15.199 --> 01:24:16.720
that was in the early nineteen eighties.

1675
01:24:17.039 --> 01:24:19.000
Oh wow, No, I had not heard this way. But

1676
01:24:19.119 --> 01:24:23.399
there is a cop a police officer and Helen that

1677
01:24:23.600 --> 01:24:28.399
was driving with the lady and they actually got footage

1678
01:24:28.439 --> 01:24:33.880
of something large running across the road and they couldn't

1679
01:24:33.880 --> 01:24:36.359
explain it. They turned around went back to try to

1680
01:24:36.439 --> 01:24:38.880
see what it was or to see if they could,

1681
01:24:39.640 --> 01:24:43.640
and they did not. That one you can see on YouTube.

1682
01:24:44.159 --> 01:24:47.399
Yes, and that's also I believe that that's also in

1683
01:24:47.439 --> 01:24:50.760
the first episode of Finding Bigfoot too, Okay.

1684
01:24:50.560 --> 01:24:54.560
And that's right here local where I'm at, Okay, which

1685
01:24:54.560 --> 01:24:56.880
is really strange because I've had I hear a wood

1686
01:24:56.960 --> 01:24:57.840
knocks and the.

1687
01:25:00.000 --> 01:25:00.279
We have.

1688
01:25:00.399 --> 01:25:04.479
Actually down in le j they have a Sasquatch museum,

1689
01:25:05.439 --> 01:25:07.159
so I went and checked that out because I was

1690
01:25:07.319 --> 01:25:11.640
very curious about the pictures I took, and I didn't

1691
01:25:11.640 --> 01:25:14.199
think about doing a casting or anything like that.

1692
01:25:15.279 --> 01:25:17.399
But they look very similar.

1693
01:25:20.039 --> 01:25:22.680
Especially where it looks like on the side of the

1694
01:25:22.680 --> 01:25:27.520
foot that maybe the fur I don't know what that

1695
01:25:27.880 --> 01:25:30.239
there's imprints on the side of the foot would be,

1696
01:25:33.239 --> 01:25:35.760
but they were very intosparated from the man. You can

1697
01:25:35.800 --> 01:25:38.960
see the toes, you can see where the fur. I

1698
01:25:39.000 --> 01:25:41.199
don't know how to explain the side of that foot

1699
01:25:41.239 --> 01:25:45.720
where it looks like I don't know what it would be,

1700
01:25:45.840 --> 01:25:50.039
but they look like it's different. But I can tell

1701
01:25:50.079 --> 01:25:51.880
you I've lived in the forest long enough to know

1702
01:25:52.359 --> 01:25:55.079
what a deer a bear. I've had bear prints. They

1703
01:25:55.119 --> 01:26:00.600
have claws, Okay, I've had bear prints. I know what

1704
01:26:00.760 --> 01:26:03.720
deer tracks. I know what everything looks like pretty much

1705
01:26:03.880 --> 01:26:06.840
in this I could not explain. And then there wasn't

1706
01:26:06.840 --> 01:26:10.319
a person on my there was no tire Prince tire tracks.

1707
01:26:10.359 --> 01:26:15.239
I lived in on ten acres a landmark. Okay, somebody

1708
01:26:15.239 --> 01:26:18.960
would have. And why would anybody go barefoot in a

1709
01:26:19.000 --> 01:26:21.600
nice storm and it comes from the woods and back

1710
01:26:21.680 --> 01:26:24.640
into the woods it went. It came up to the porch,

1711
01:26:24.960 --> 01:26:27.960
stopped at the bottom of the steps, and then went

1712
01:26:28.039 --> 01:26:29.560
back into the woods.

1713
01:26:31.439 --> 01:26:36.199
Why, Yeah, it doesn't make sense. Absolutely. I'm going to

1714
01:26:36.439 --> 01:26:39.239
definitely check out those photographs once I get off this

1715
01:26:39.680 --> 01:26:42.680
live later tonight. Yeah, and I'll let you know what

1716
01:26:42.720 --> 01:26:44.920
I think, Kimmy. But thank you for coming up. Is

1717
01:26:44.960 --> 01:26:47.159
this a conversation I could put on the big Foot

1718
01:26:47.199 --> 01:26:47.960
podcast that I have?

1719
01:26:48.199 --> 01:26:48.840
Absolutely?

1720
01:26:49.560 --> 01:26:52.039
All right, Thank you, ma'am, and keep in touch. If

1721
01:26:52.079 --> 01:26:56.640
anything else happens out there, I will do. Before we

1722
01:26:56.720 --> 01:26:59.159
wrap this episode, I want to say something directly to

1723
01:26:59.239 --> 01:27:02.600
a very specific group of listeners. If you're in the military,

1724
01:27:03.039 --> 01:27:06.359
any branch or forces, and if you've seen something that

1725
01:27:06.439 --> 01:27:09.279
no one can explain, or if you're a National park

1726
01:27:09.359 --> 01:27:12.560
ranger or forestry worker who's been told to stay quiet,

1727
01:27:13.279 --> 01:27:16.439
or if you're a pilot who's seen something strange down

1728
01:27:16.439 --> 01:27:19.000
on the ground, or if you're with the FBI a

1729
01:27:19.079 --> 01:27:22.960
federal agency, or working intelligence and you stumbled upon something

1730
01:27:23.039 --> 01:27:26.680
you're not allowed to talk about. And if you're a firefighter, paramedic,

1731
01:27:26.800 --> 01:27:30.039
or search and rescue responder who's heard screams or found

1732
01:27:30.119 --> 01:27:33.119
tracks that didn't make sense. If you're in the logging

1733
01:27:33.159 --> 01:27:37.000
industry on a remote oil field, or a trucker with

1734
01:27:37.119 --> 01:27:40.960
government contracts and you've had something happen that you've never

1735
01:27:41.000 --> 01:27:44.880
told a soul. And if you're a biologist, a wildlife specialist,

1736
01:27:45.079 --> 01:27:48.439
or a field researcher under contract who has found evidence

1737
01:27:48.560 --> 01:27:52.199
you're not allowed to report. If you're a pastor, a missionary,

1738
01:27:52.359 --> 01:27:55.520
or someone on a spiritual retreat and you saw something

1739
01:27:55.560 --> 01:27:57.960
that shook your faith, or if you work in the

1740
01:27:58.000 --> 01:28:02.560
shadows CIA, NSA or anything with clearance and you've seen

1741
01:28:02.680 --> 01:28:06.359
what the public hasn't, then I want to talk to you,

1742
01:28:07.359 --> 01:28:12.199
even if it's anonymous. You can reach me at Bigfoot

1743
01:28:12.239 --> 01:28:15.439
Society at gmail dot com. The world needs to hear

1744
01:28:15.640 --> 01:28:20.279
what you've been forced to carry alone. And you're not alone.

1745
01:28:20.560 --> 01:28:25.640
You've got the story, We've got the mic. See you

1746
01:28:25.680 --> 01:28:28.239
in the woods. Thank you for listening to this episode

1747
01:28:28.239 --> 01:28:31.439
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1748
01:28:31.520 --> 01:28:34.039
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1749
01:28:34.720 --> 01:28:37.000
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1750
01:28:37.039 --> 01:28:40.239
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1758
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1759
01:29:03.760 --> 01:29:06.760
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1760
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1766
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1767
01:29:30.039 --> 01:29:32.720
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1768
01:29:32.880 --> 01:29:35.560
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1769
01:29:35.600 --> 01:29:37.800
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1770
01:29:37.800 --> 01:29:38.319
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