July 12, 2025

This Oregon Town Has a Bigfoot Problem!

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Season 1

What happens when a seasoned researcher chases a deer into the dusk — and runs into something waiting in the shadows?

In this chilling and immersive episode of Bigfoot Society, Jeremiah Byron shares never-before-heard interviews and audio footage from Oak Hole (formerly known as the Meadow) — the infamous Bigfoot research hotspot near Oakridge, Oregon. You’ll hear a lot of individuals recount what really happened during Sasquatch Summerfest 2024.

From glowing golden eyes in the woods, to vocal mimicry, unexplainable roars, and a sighting that ended with a playful head tilt — this is one of the most intense and vivid Bigfoot episodes we’ve ever released. Whether it’s fruit disappearing in the night or shadowy figures running down mountain slopes, the Oak Hole stories will leave you questioning what walks in those woods.

This is more than a story. It’s a documentary of one of the most active Bigfoot hotspots in the Pacific Northwest.

Resources:

Sasquatch Summerfest Oakridge Oregon festival: https://www.sasquatchsummerfest.com

Area 58 Museum channel: https://www.youtube.com/@Area58Museum

You can watch Jason Kenzie's Searching for Sasquatch documentary on the same events here: https://tubitv.com/person/281914/jason-kenzie

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When I started aching and laid down, and that's when

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he said, hey, are those those like monkey sounds? When

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they they came up from right down over that steep bank,

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straight up through here, straight through these trees all the

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way around, or a tent all the way around back

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to here, and that's when they proceeded to screams for

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hour and a half, two hours, for an intense moment

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in my life. It was right here is where it

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happened at and they were right inside these trees all

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the way around us.

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I mean, you can you can see how close the

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tree line is, so they were right inside the tree line.

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You're saying, right inside, and except for the big one.

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He would he'd be by that tree and walk up

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to the back of the tent and then I'd talk

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louder and he'd back back up and you could feel

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the ground, you could feel the voices going through your body.

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It was so.

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Intense that it was unexplainable. I'm dumbfounded, and we get

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action all the time. I'm grateful that he got to

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see him. They're here.

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You're listening to Big for Society, and this is Jeremiah Byron.

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The episode you're about to listen to is an audio

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documentary about the events of Sasquatch Summerfest and the research

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that happened in the year twenty twenty four. You'll hear

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from multiple people involved with this episode the Searching for

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Sasquatch team. Myself, Ronnie Briscilla Alisha is in the background

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of one of the interviews. Dwayne is present. You'll hear

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from Denise, many many different people. This took about a

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year to get all the necessary interviews and to do

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the editing. I hope you enjoy this. A few things

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to go over real quick. If you hear reference to

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a place called the Meadow that is now referred to

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as oh Cole, that's the Bigfoot Research area in Oakridge

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at the area fifty eight museum team frequents. I hope

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you enjoy this audio documentary as it does help tie

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together the many events that happened around Sasquatch Summerfest twenty

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twenty four. Enjoy. We'll first start by talking to Chad

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about the events that happened on Tuesday, July sixteenth and

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that led into Wednesday, July seventeenth. All right, Chad, do

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you mind first stating your full name and why you

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were present for the events of what happened in Oakridge.

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My full name is Chad Edward Data MOP was present

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at these events because I'm a bigfoot researcher and was

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invited as a speaker at a conference in Oregon, and

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then I was taken out into some areas on the

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first night that I was there by people that have

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had multiple experiences.

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Perfect And the first night you were there was that Tuesday,

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July sixteenth.

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Yes, actually it was a seventeenth. It was a seventeenth.

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Perfect And why don't you go ahead and share? What

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were some things you first experienced on Wednesday the seventeenth

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From your perspective.

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Well, we are Rove and Priscilla, the host of Sasquatch Summerfest,

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had picked us up, and I had got to meet

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your father, Ronald Rossman, Greg Guy and talked to Dwayne,

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his friend, both experiencers. Well, that night, Priscilla had to

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go get some moss and nobody was willing to go,

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and I said, what the heck, I'll go with you,

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and we go out way back into this area where

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there's ben encounters by multiple witnesses and we're just picking

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moss out of these trees and you know, we weren't

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there for bigfoot, but I'm always paying attention, and I

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just like felt something. I started explaining to Priscilla, your

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best form of defense, actually at night, i'm lethal for

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these creatures is a super bright flashlight. So I showed

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her I had my one flashlight on my side that

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I wasn't using to pick the moss because it's so bright.

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I pulled it out and I focused on being like

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I focus in, and I started shining in the woods,

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and I saw this yellow reflecting eye, and I said, Priscilla,

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there's something reflecting there. Then all of a sudden, it

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was two eyes, like it was behind a tree. I

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could kind of see the tree a little bit. It

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was one hundred feet away and it was black out there.

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And then she's looking at it and she's like, yeah,

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I see it. Then all of a sudden, two more

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yellow gold eyes appeared a little bit lower than the

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one we were looking at. So now we're looking at

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two sets of eyes, and I'm like, we have Priscilla's

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seven year old granddaughter with us. She's in the car.

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I'm like, Priscilla, you want to walk towards this, which

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if I was like with somebody else I would have

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actually approached it, but Priscilla seemed a little nervous, and

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we did have the granddaughter, and so I agreed with

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her and we left, and as we're leaving, I said,

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drive slow, I want to shine. I still want to

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shine in there. And there was actually another set of

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eyes as we leave, and well, in fact, there was

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a total of three. So we had saw the two.

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And when I sent Priscilla to the car, and she

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goes to the car first because we're close to these things,

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well we within one hundred feet and we're one hundred

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yards from the car, so I told her to go.

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I stayed there with the lights on them. Then I

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walked about halfway and when I turned around, there was

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a third set of eyes. And we get in the

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car and we leave, and I want to shine. So

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we saw probably one of them again, unless there was

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a fourth that we hadn't happened to see when we

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were out picking the moss.

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I remember you talking about that sighting multiple times when

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we were having conversations during that week, and you usually

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would say, you know, Jeremiah, I know what I saw.

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I'm not crazy. I mean, it really affected you. Intensely.

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I know what I saw, Jeremiah, I know what I

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saw absolutely.

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This is the same day, So I just I want

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to clarify dates because it has been a little bit

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of time. So this happened on the same day. I

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believe that I flew in on the Wednesday, because later

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on we went back out that same day and stayed

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out pretty late, me, you and Sherry.

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Right, yeah, you came out. You flew in that day,

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and we went out that night after all this had

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already happened.

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So I just missed probably some of the most craziest

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stuff that happened in the week. Just missed it. But

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I want to throw in something. I was trying to

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think of what happened that night, Wednesday night, And the

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weirdest thing was I remember you shining your flashlight on

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the edge of the meadow, and it was a pretty

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blight bright flashlight. You've shown it into the tree line,

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and a half second later there was a huge stick

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break not too far away where from where you shined

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your flashlight. And that was probably the first weird thing

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I experienced in that area.

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Yep, yep, I do remember the stick break. We could

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attribute it attribute it to anything, but because of what

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happened right in that spot, I mean, we're going to

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we're going to think bigfoot. But the thing is, we

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only heard one break. It's not like an animal went

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crash into the woods. We just heard one crack out

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of nowhere and it was calm mm hmm.

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Absolutely. Now, there had been a sighting on the edge

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of the meadow of one jumping down from a tree, right.

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I don't know if I heard that one. I didn't

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hear about one jump from a tree, but I heard

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There's been a lot of sightings up there, so you

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might have got that inclusive, you know, at the conference,

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because you talked to a lot of people from the area.

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This is exactly why I'm spending I should have done

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all these interviews at the week that I was there,

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but my legs started having a bacterial infection and I

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was kind of not really with it. But I believe

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I'll get that sighting from one of the other parties

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that was involved. And there's so many people that were

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involved with being up in the area of the meadows.

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Were there any other things that happened out of the

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ordinary or anything you noticed? I know, you put some

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fruit up in that area as well.

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Yeah, well, I don't really know what to say about

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the fruit. The apples and oranges were on the ground.

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The banana was peeled and just a peel left there.

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I don't know what to think about that. We left

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apples in another place and they disappeared. We left three

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where Priscilla and I had our night sighting, So that

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was the only fruit that we left out there. But

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I h there was a night we were out there

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where we hiked up the mountain. You didn't want to

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go with us, don't you remember that night?

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Absolutely?

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Yeah?

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Yeah, me Jason and Gwendolyn and we did. And on

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our way down we found this weirdest thing like root

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like not pulled out of a tree and they were

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like place on a log right there for us to see,

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and you know, it was just weird just to find that.

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And these things were like long daggers, like twelve fourteen

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inch not pulled out a tree with points in them.

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They were beautiful if that. Gwendolyn saved one. I left

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one for Priscilla. I think Sherry left or I think

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Jason took his. So I left mine because I couldn't

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take it on the plane. I didn't want to smuggle

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it on the plane, but I do believe Gwendolyn smuggled her.

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And they were laid so symmetrically next to each other.

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It was it was weird. Did they put do it?

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I don't know, but I don't think a person did

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it either.

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It doesn't make sense because it sounds like where you

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walked up to that area, this isn't by a trail, right,

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this is just in the middle of the woods.

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There's a trail, but it's not a heavily.

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Utilized gotcha, gotcha?

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How is it? I'm just trying to figure out how

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a human could get the the knot the not where

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a branch, so where a branch comes out of a tree,

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they got the hole knot where it lives in the

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tree and feeds off of the and there were like

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they were like sharp daggers.

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I've never seen anything like it.

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And it logically we took the photo before we touched them.

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That's right, yep, it's It's one of the weirdest things

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I've ever seen. And I mean, uh, it's par for

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the course for that area because there have been other

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people that I mean Sherry alone has had her name

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called from that area. I believe that was on Sunday night.

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It was the same night that we're talking about. It's

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just some weird, weird stuff in that area.

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Branches break from started over and then we listen and

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it just stopped moving and we start talking, and then

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there's a snap over here, and we'd listen and it

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kept doing that, and it got us, you know, another snap,

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and my daughter got up to look with me. I

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was looking already, and she got up and turn this

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direction and we didn't see nothing then, but then all

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of a sudden, crash crash, crash, crash, crash, and I

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see this black shape leap out of this stuff and

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go that way. Well, I was thinking, is that a

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bear because it looks small, right, but being right here

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next to it, yeah, I'm.

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Telling you what happened last night. They weren't aggressive at all.

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I was a nervous.

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You know.

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We had to little girl with us and Priscilla, and

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I'm like Priscilla, I wanted to go toward him because

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I didn't couldn't hardly believe what I was seeing, and

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I wanted to verify. I know what it was. I know,

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I know exactly what it was, and then she didn't

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want to go towards it all with me, and I'm

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glad we didn't go towards him because that way we

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weren't threatening. I hagg the light on him. I said,

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do you go to the car? And I held the

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light on him and I washed him. She walked the car.

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She walked like three hundred feet, like almost a football field,

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to the car. And when she got up there, then

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I turned the flashlight so I could see because she

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had a flashlight. And I started walking and I got

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about one hundred and fifty and I turned and shined

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the light. They were all in the same place, but

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now there was three instead of two. When I turned

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and I'm like, okay, they had pursued towards I'm halfway there.

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Then I turned, I walked, We got in the car. Eve,

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It's like, let's go. Let's go, like me and Prisuona, Dude,

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that's real. I know what I saw and Eve it's like, oh,

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we gotta go, we gotta go, so we're going.

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talking more to Chad about how he went up to

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the area again with Ronnie and Dwayne, and then that

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day concludes with audio from my self and Dwayne up

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in the Oak Hole Research area. Also president is Denise

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Sherry and Chad.

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But we went back the next day. I took Ron

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back and we went with Dwayne and we went to

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look and we located the spot for footprints and there

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were footprints all over like depressions, and there was one

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that was measured at they said like twenty inches. That

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was like easy, eighteen inches, and they were like but

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they weren't defined. They were just like the shape of

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a foot depression.

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Big for society. Who will be right back after these messages.

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You didn't see toes because of the ground surface a substrate,

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it wasn't feasible for a good track in that area.

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But you could see definitely where something heavy had stood

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all over behind these trees where Priscilla and I saw this.

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And this was on the day that you went back.

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It would have been around eight thirty okay in the morning, gotcha.

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And after we observed all of that, then Ron and

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Duyne wanted me to take to want to take me

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just which is right close by within a mile or

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so mile and a half at the month by the

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drive straight line, probably three quarters of a mile. They

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wanted to take me to where they had their their

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terrifying experience one night, and so we go up there

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and we put out lawn chairs right on the road,

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right by the meadow where they had all this. We

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sat there. We sat there for hour and a half

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and then Ron needed to run into town, wanted to

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get lunch and some things to drink. And Sherry slept

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in because of the flight from the night before. She

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was exhausted, had way less sleep than me, and so

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he was to pick her up. But during the time

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he was gone, he left, and within between thirty and

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forty five minutes, we started hearing like cracking, like footsteps.

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My back was to it. Dwayne was facing torchs that

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we're in camping chairs on the side of this like

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two track. My back's to it. He's facing me, and

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his daughter's off to the side, and they're hearing it,

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and I'm like this, just keep listening and see what happens. Well,

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then I don't know, you know what happened, because we

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heard it for I don't know, good minute and a half.

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Then all of a sudden, it just started. It crashed

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the woods. My back's to it, I didn't see it.

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Dwayne saw it. He said it was black and it

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ran through the woods. His daughter didn't see it because

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she wasn't quite facing at it. We all heard it,

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and I'm like, okay, well, let's just sit here. We

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didn't like go in or anything. And within I don't know,

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fifteen to twenty minutes maybe, I mean, it's hard to tell.

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In time, all of a sudden we get roared at.

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I mean, this roar. That is incredible, that there's bear

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can't roar this long and at this And it was

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a distance away, not real far, but a distance. And

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Dwayne and Denise, his daughter, they got a little paranoid

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because they had bad experiences with getting growled and roared

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at like that. I told them, We're okay, okay, let's

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just sit here, just sit here. We're fine. I don't know.

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Fifteen seconds went by, and then the roar, same rule,

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but it was louder and closer and in the and

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I mean, I saw the panic in their face. And

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I'll be honest, I'm not often intimidated, but it was

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really really intimidating to me. And I just looked at him.

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I said, all right, it's time to go. So we

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jump in their vehicle and we drive up maybe a

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half mile and because we can't leave because Ronnie's coming

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back with Sherry and stuff, and if we leave, he's

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just gonna go right there and we're gonna be gone.

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So we pull up and we find the spot to park.

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We parked there and we wait, and we're waiting, and

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we're while we're waiting, we're I mean, we're on high

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alert because of what just happened. We're like just scanning

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the high hills behind us, like the cliffs of the

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mountain or some behind us that it's up like fifty feet.

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We're scanning across this big, huge ravine to a mountain

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on the other side. It's all like totally visible. And

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I just happened to look to my left and I

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just stare there at this area, and all of a sudden,

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this upright dark object just goes running down this hill.

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I saw it at the mouse for a second to

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a second and half, but I know what I saw.

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And it ran upright down this big steep hill right

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in front of us. They didn't see it. I saw it.

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But this is within half a mile of where all

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this other stuff just happened a few minutes before that.

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Ohoh, it's got like a really weird shivery feeling. That's weird.

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Yeah, yeah, I think they I don't know.

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It's like, do you know what I'm You know what

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I'm saying, though, like get them all all of a sudden.

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I usually I usually get it right before it starts happening.

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I've been feeling the same way. My hair is on end.

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I'm looking in all around me. Pretty soon it's gonna

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feel like somebody's watching you.

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M Oh, you had their birds quick?

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This is kind quiet?

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Yeah, that's real close to the whistle?

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Why's breaking stuff off that tree over there?

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Or just get ready record as much as you can

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jump in there and go as fast as we can.

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If we have to, you can turn around. I won't

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purround here without that car being turned around.

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Yeah it's quiet, but all the way around is now?

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Why is so quiet? Because something's out there?

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M h, I don't like that whistle?

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H hard to raise somebody? And how have you been

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through this one today?

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Yeah?

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That's crazy.

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It is.

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So right there. That's the field where it all went down.

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That's wild.

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Yeah that was hard to do, but I did those

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two breaks because you know, they echoed through the words.

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To get it, I figured, yeah, it's super quiet.

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And those were two loud breaks.

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Right, oh yeah, I'm sure.

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How good humories here though? Mm hmm, all right, kidding,

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I know I'm nervous too. For all right, so far

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you've got good instincts.

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Yeah, thanks, So Ronnie, this is a spot where Ronnie

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was like, you were like, do you want to come?

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And Ronnie's like, no, I'm staying here. I don't care

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if they tear me apart.

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This is it he is.

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I mean, he's a great guy with that nuts that

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he did that. Now that I'm here, that's wild.

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You get a chance and maybe get that role and

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then you'll really go wow.

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Ronnie is a great guy though. He's a good dude.

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Now what, no way, that's it.

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That's what what he's mimicking. Is that sound there? And

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I can't tell you whether that's a bird that no way,

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not the robin, but when that one that bird, that's

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the whistle that these big foot if you have been

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mimicking to us that whistle right there, that's the whistle

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my daughter was whistling back and I'm back and forth

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up here, was that whistle right there. I'm gonna try

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to figure out what what kind of bird that is,

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just so I know what they're mimicking. And could he

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back in another spot too?

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Right now?

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Well, they couldn't even booth spots. Oh, it took a

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long time to talk. Ronnie is coming up here?

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I bet yeah.

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They were wanting to go down.

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On the swamps.

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Man asked the place to be. That's the place I

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kept telling her. I'm telling you it's not as good.

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Right, Fine, So the swamps are how far away from here?

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A long way?

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Yeah, there's some on the corner over there.

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And then it drips into another layer.

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And there's a creek.

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We're us hearing it here and with the cracks, and

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then for some reason it freaked out and went crashing

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through the woods. My back was to it. I trust

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this man was what he saw. He was facing it.

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And then when he said bear, he says, it had

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to be a bear. It was black, and I'm like,

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didn't sound like a bear, and if it was a bear,

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it would have kept running that somewhere where it could

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go quiet.

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But he jumped and.

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Then he said then he said, well, yeah he jumped.

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It was like a weird but I didn't see it.

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I heard it.

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She heard My mind was trying to rationalize something, you know.

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Maybe Okay.

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Then it wasn't fifteen minutes after that at the most

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that we heard the roar. It took off. That's why

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I think it went. And told the Alpha Daddy, I

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really did. It took off and within fifteen minutes there's

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a roar and then.

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He knows the story. Seconds it was another I think

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ten twelve seconds, and it was a lot closer.

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And then I, dude, I was like, it was was

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it its time? It might have been a hundred yards away,

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It might only about one hundred yards away. It was

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that loud, and I said, yeah, okay, and I left

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the chair and that was no low.

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Yeah you did, dude.

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I left a chair there because we couldn't fit it in.

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I wasn't wasting the time we could have, but I

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wasn't wasting time. We drove up to where I showed

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you we parked that big round thing and then pointing.

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So we drive up there. We're parked because we we

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know Ron's coming back with Sherry, and we can't, like

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we want to make sure they don't just come up

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here and we're gone, and we're sitting there and I'm

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leaning on the hood and like we're staring up in

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the hills. It's a beautiful spot. There's a big area

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you can see way up on them, on top of

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a mountain where if a big foot without binoculars, if

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a big foot walk across, you can see it. We're

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sitting there, were watching that, and then I'm watching up

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on top of the hill behind me, and then I'm

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watching over here, and I'm watching for a while and

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I saw that. Dude, I know it himself. You saw

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that hill it ran down to that that was not

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ran down that hill?

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Wow.

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Yeah, there's no sense in leaving here.

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So that was and it was it.

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It's not even a mile away, as it was a

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half mile maybe a third of a mile.

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Yeah. Yeah.

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And then the other road that goes up there, it

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only goes up there. That's within that's ring up here

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where we had our sightings last night. Isn't it right here?

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Yeah?

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But we roll up, we go up and back and

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they doesn't come back this way.

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That's about a little small.

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So, but it's not far from here.

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Yeah, it's getting dark now.

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Oh yeah, it'll get a little darker kill soon, and

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it'll be quite a long before the shows up over

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here anywhere overall, so it'll get pretty dark.

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Bigs A society will be right back after these messages.

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You know, I can imagine all the knee figures. When

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we say the stuff's happening in the daytime, they're probably like, yeah, right,

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I don't have in the daytime.

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A right, Oh, it just happened to kick off right

464
00:30:41.079 --> 00:30:42.279
before the big Foot festival.

465
00:30:42.720 --> 00:30:42.880
You know.

466
00:30:43.519 --> 00:30:46.839
You always get stuff like that, like just let's kept it.

467
00:30:47.079 --> 00:30:51.240
You know, naysayers come out and it's like whatever, I

468
00:30:51.359 --> 00:30:52.279
can say, whatever you want.

469
00:30:52.359 --> 00:30:57.240
But yeah, I don't care what they think. I'm just

470
00:30:57.359 --> 00:31:01.720
happy that another person that I'm about to see him really.

471
00:31:01.599 --> 00:31:02.920
Quick mm hmm.

472
00:31:04.200 --> 00:31:04.400
Yeah.

473
00:31:05.000 --> 00:31:07.440
I mean within five hours of being in town. That's

474
00:31:07.480 --> 00:31:08.559
got a better record.

475
00:31:09.279 --> 00:31:10.440
That's an absolute record.

476
00:31:10.519 --> 00:31:10.680
You know.

477
00:31:10.839 --> 00:31:14.480
It is like boots on the ground. Five hours later

478
00:31:14.799 --> 00:31:18.240
you have a sighting that's wild with three of them. Yeah,

479
00:31:20.960 --> 00:31:24.920
Oh my goodness, it's funny.

480
00:31:25.279 --> 00:31:31.200
It's just funny. Ronson. Why do I never get to

481
00:31:31.240 --> 00:31:43.759
see him? I don't know, it's just funny. I guess

482
00:31:43.799 --> 00:31:46.319
I gotta find some humor in it. No, you really do,

483
00:31:50.839 --> 00:31:53.079
and I you know, I don't mean it in a

484
00:31:53.160 --> 00:31:56.240
bad way, but I hope they can get them scared

485
00:31:56.240 --> 00:31:56.880
out of you too.

486
00:31:58.480 --> 00:32:06.680
Absolutely, and get it on recording. Absolutely. Do you think

487
00:32:06.759 --> 00:32:09.119
of how many spots like this there probably are in

488
00:32:09.160 --> 00:32:12.599
the Pacific Northwest? You know, no one but ever now? Yeah,

489
00:32:12.920 --> 00:32:14.720
this is just one drop in the ocean, dude.

490
00:32:14.759 --> 00:32:17.000
Yeah, you just gotta find them one spot, one of

491
00:32:17.079 --> 00:32:21.000
the spots where, for whatever reason, people just don't go camping.

492
00:32:21.359 --> 00:32:22.920
What do you get to pick.

493
00:32:25.160 --> 00:32:29.920
Because making them feel wrong when they leave you don't

494
00:32:29.960 --> 00:32:32.279
want to camp there, or or they have a sight

495
00:32:32.359 --> 00:32:34.079
in it, or something happens.

496
00:32:34.440 --> 00:32:34.640
Yeah.

497
00:32:34.960 --> 00:32:41.440
I hardly ever see anybody camping anywhere from here in below. Wow,

498
00:32:46.319 --> 00:32:48.000
and there's got to be a reason for that.

499
00:32:48.839 --> 00:32:56.720
Got real quiet again? Do you see something I thought.

500
00:32:56.559 --> 00:32:57.759
I've seen movement over there?

501
00:32:58.200 --> 00:32:58.400
Yeah?

502
00:33:00.559 --> 00:33:01.720
Hey, what did you think?

503
00:33:03.640 --> 00:33:03.680
So?

504
00:33:03.920 --> 00:33:04.880
Where did you see that?

505
00:33:06.400 --> 00:33:10.079
The one where he was at? Okay, I was I'm

506
00:33:10.119 --> 00:33:17.599
not sure. I kept seeing stuff earlier too. Yeah, I

507
00:33:17.680 --> 00:33:19.319
think we need to keep an eye on that tree,

508
00:33:20.039 --> 00:33:22.960
to be honest, I just didn't. I thought it was

509
00:33:23.119 --> 00:33:26.799
like my camera being weird. So I was waiting until

510
00:33:26.839 --> 00:33:27.920
someone else said something.

511
00:33:28.079 --> 00:33:32.680
I thought I seen a movement over there? Yeah, was

512
00:33:32.759 --> 00:33:34.319
that it turn in a minute?

513
00:33:35.480 --> 00:33:35.920
Look at.

514
00:33:54.640 --> 00:33:56.599
Hm hmm, I've seen enough.

515
00:34:00.200 --> 00:34:09.320
H weird?

516
00:34:09.400 --> 00:34:15.400
Did you see that fluctuation? Now I'm gonna start looking

517
00:34:15.480 --> 00:34:25.639
at the screen too, though, I'm kind of fluctuation. Look

518
00:34:25.679 --> 00:34:33.960
at me way, how do you walk down here? This

519
00:34:34.199 --> 00:34:36.800
is usually the side that big one comes out of it.

520
00:34:37.000 --> 00:34:41.000
He has came under this said before, but usually it's

521
00:34:41.159 --> 00:34:53.440
either from over the train. That's what you heard this morning?

522
00:34:56.480 --> 00:35:00.199
That was it the train that was te.

523
00:35:01.280 --> 00:35:05.400
Treat hit.

524
00:35:07.840 --> 00:35:10.400
When we all had the same hallucination.

525
00:35:13.920 --> 00:35:22.400
When roar, I keep saying that I gotta give a bug.

526
00:35:26.440 --> 00:35:26.880
And I don't know.

527
00:35:29.360 --> 00:35:31.920
Yeah, I was for some of my daughter heard she's.

528
00:35:33.559 --> 00:35:33.719
Too.

529
00:35:34.239 --> 00:35:36.000
She didn't get here at the roar.

530
00:35:39.400 --> 00:35:40.280
The roar is so.

531
00:35:41.880 --> 00:35:46.480
Chance, man, is it really? Does it like reverberate in

532
00:35:46.519 --> 00:35:46.960
your chest?

533
00:35:47.199 --> 00:35:53.119
Like a lot of people will say, yes, when you're

534
00:35:53.199 --> 00:35:55.199
up close on the edge of them trees doing it,

535
00:35:55.760 --> 00:36:02.679
you will feel it. Yeah, so loud, it's intense.

536
00:36:04.199 --> 00:36:06.960
There's a lot of things if Yeah, because the female

537
00:36:07.000 --> 00:36:08.559
one I had was the loudest thing I've ever.

538
00:36:08.480 --> 00:36:09.280
Heard of my whole life.

539
00:36:09.519 --> 00:36:13.639
The team, but a male what I think that that's

540
00:36:14.119 --> 00:36:15.800
a lot scarier than the female.

541
00:36:16.039 --> 00:36:18.679
It can paralyze you too, man, you just can't move.

542
00:36:21.639 --> 00:36:24.880
Sometimes you probably couldn't even stand up. I can imagine that.

543
00:36:25.039 --> 00:36:27.760
Also, researchers a lot of times is long nights.

544
00:36:29.239 --> 00:36:30.960
No, yeah, it's boring.

545
00:36:31.719 --> 00:36:32.239
Few and the.

546
00:36:32.320 --> 00:36:34.760
Dumbest thing you can do is go tramped through the woods.

547
00:36:34.960 --> 00:36:37.719
Yeah, yeah, I've you.

548
00:36:37.920 --> 00:36:39.280
There's time for tramp for the.

549
00:36:39.280 --> 00:36:42.360
Woods, especially if you don't know where you're trampling.

550
00:36:43.159 --> 00:36:47.079
And especially when what happened right here today. Yeah, why

551
00:36:47.119 --> 00:36:49.480
would you go anywhere else? Why would I want to

552
00:36:49.559 --> 00:36:53.559
even walk out right here? Why would I even want

553
00:36:53.639 --> 00:36:54.840
to walk in there?

554
00:36:55.199 --> 00:36:55.440
True?

555
00:36:56.639 --> 00:36:59.880
Okay, I'm not I'm kind of fear.

556
00:37:01.719 --> 00:37:05.320
The next day is the events of Thursday, July nineteenth.

557
00:37:06.360 --> 00:37:09.079
In this episode, we're not going to go into that

558
00:37:09.199 --> 00:37:13.639
because I've already spent four whole episodes about the events

559
00:37:13.679 --> 00:37:15.679
of that Thursday. I was able to go out with

560
00:37:15.840 --> 00:37:20.159
Ronnie and Dwayne. Denise was also present, and we spent

561
00:37:20.239 --> 00:37:24.559
about eight hours in all where they were allowing me

562
00:37:24.679 --> 00:37:27.800
to record their conversations. So if you want to know

563
00:37:28.639 --> 00:37:33.280
in great detail, go back to episode five seventeen, and

564
00:37:33.360 --> 00:37:37.360
there's a four part series all about that Thursday where

565
00:37:37.400 --> 00:37:41.039
I have conversations throughout the day. We hear some roars

566
00:37:42.239 --> 00:37:45.719
from the woods, some very very weird stuff. It is

567
00:37:45.920 --> 00:37:52.039
worth going back and listening to these four episodes. We

568
00:37:52.119 --> 00:37:55.639
are going to go ahead and continue with July twentieth

569
00:37:56.679 --> 00:38:01.800
with an extended interview with Gwendolyn Guthrie, which I found

570
00:38:02.039 --> 00:38:05.960
extremely interesting. She's about to share what happened in a

571
00:38:06.039 --> 00:38:08.159
part of the area that I did not get to

572
00:38:08.239 --> 00:38:13.960
go to, but she had quite the sighting. It's important

573
00:38:14.000 --> 00:38:17.199
to know before we get into Gwendolen's interview that at

574
00:38:17.239 --> 00:38:20.760
the same time that all this is going on on Sunday,

575
00:38:21.639 --> 00:38:24.079
I was also out in the oak Hol area with

576
00:38:24.159 --> 00:38:28.440
a few individuals looking at tracks that had been found.

577
00:38:29.440 --> 00:38:38.039
It was myself, some unnamed individuals. Denise Dwayne was there.

578
00:38:38.360 --> 00:38:42.159
There's some very interesting things that happened that time when

579
00:38:42.159 --> 00:38:44.960
we were up in Oakhol. I don't really have a

580
00:38:45.079 --> 00:38:51.159
lot of things recorded since my devices were not working

581
00:38:51.199 --> 00:38:54.159
at the time. They were at a battery. This is

582
00:38:54.400 --> 00:38:57.159
where there was an audio clip recorded. I'm going to

583
00:38:57.199 --> 00:39:00.840
try to play this here. That's very interesting. It's been

584
00:39:00.880 --> 00:39:04.480
analyzed quite a bit. It's found that have some form

585
00:39:04.519 --> 00:39:08.920
of language. This was recorded by Andrew. Also, this is

586
00:39:09.000 --> 00:39:13.320
the time when I was sitting in my lawn chair

587
00:39:13.440 --> 00:39:21.079
for about five minutes and I couldn't move, very very strange. Yeah,

588
00:39:21.440 --> 00:39:24.360
it's very hard to explain, but yeah, for five minutes,

589
00:39:24.400 --> 00:39:28.159
I was almost paralyzed, was not able to move, just

590
00:39:28.639 --> 00:39:33.519
staring directly into the woodline across the oh Coal meadow.

591
00:39:34.800 --> 00:39:37.639
I'm gonna go ahead and play that audio clip here.

592
00:39:48.000 --> 00:39:48.440
Do you hear that?

593
00:39:49.800 --> 00:39:51.760
We're going to go ahead and play that same clip again,

594
00:39:51.840 --> 00:39:54.119
this time boosted in audacity.

595
00:40:04.880 --> 00:40:05.360
Do you hear that?

596
00:40:10.320 --> 00:40:12.559
It's an interesting clip. I've had a few people listen

597
00:40:12.639 --> 00:40:15.360
to it, including David Ellis from the Olympic Project. He

598
00:40:15.519 --> 00:40:18.960
says that the part that sounds like me talking is

599
00:40:19.440 --> 00:40:22.960
way too low for that to be me. That part

600
00:40:23.119 --> 00:40:26.480
kind of messes with me a lot. Also sounds like

601
00:40:26.559 --> 00:40:29.840
we have some sort of whoop. Some people say that

602
00:40:30.039 --> 00:40:35.920
sounds like the message tones on a smartphone. Not the case.

603
00:40:36.480 --> 00:40:41.920
I went ahead and checked out the spectrograph compared to

604
00:40:42.800 --> 00:40:47.280
different types of smartphone notification sounds. Also, the area we're

605
00:40:47.320 --> 00:40:53.119
in you really can't get service, so something really really

606
00:40:53.360 --> 00:40:56.679
to listen to a few times. Some strange stuff going

607
00:40:56.719 --> 00:41:00.760
on up there. We're going to continue with interview extended

608
00:41:00.920 --> 00:41:05.199
with Gwendolen Guthrie. Gwendolyn Guthrie is an individual that I

609
00:41:05.440 --> 00:41:08.880
met out there in Oakridge. She's part of the Searching

610
00:41:08.960 --> 00:41:14.159
for Sasquatch team and great group of people. Had a

611
00:41:14.239 --> 00:41:17.480
lot of good times hanging out with them, hanging out

612
00:41:17.480 --> 00:41:20.000
in the same airbnb. It was just a big party.

613
00:41:20.480 --> 00:41:25.239
But Gwendolen, I've invited you on to share specifically what

614
00:41:25.480 --> 00:41:31.199
you experienced out there in Oakridge, as you had some

615
00:41:31.440 --> 00:41:35.519
really interesting things happen in your own little adventure that

616
00:41:35.679 --> 00:41:36.079
was going on.

617
00:41:36.320 --> 00:41:38.800
Thank you for having me, Jeremiah, I really appreciate it.

618
00:41:38.960 --> 00:41:41.719
It's nice to get to talk to you again. So

619
00:41:42.320 --> 00:41:44.880
it'll be fun to get to talk about my experience.

620
00:41:45.559 --> 00:41:49.679
We went out to Oakridge, Oregon, and we were out

621
00:41:49.719 --> 00:41:52.960
there for a Sasquatch summer fest. You're right, it was

622
00:41:53.159 --> 00:41:54.639
a lot of fun. It was kind of like a

623
00:41:54.679 --> 00:41:58.039
big party. Everybody had a good time. Everybody got to

624
00:41:58.159 --> 00:42:00.280
meet me, people talk to people that they you in

625
00:42:00.320 --> 00:42:03.519
the past. So it was a really fun time. And

626
00:42:03.800 --> 00:42:08.639
during that obviously we're all investigators. In our downtime, we

627
00:42:08.719 --> 00:42:13.880
were always out whenever we had a little bit of downtime, daytime, nighttime, whatever.

628
00:42:13.960 --> 00:42:18.239
We was out in different groups researching, and on one

629
00:42:18.280 --> 00:42:22.159
of the days we had went up to this old

630
00:42:22.280 --> 00:42:24.599
mountain town and for life of me, I can't remember

631
00:42:24.639 --> 00:42:29.840
what it's called, but it was still active in a

632
00:42:29.920 --> 00:42:36.519
way that summer this past summer, but the roads were

633
00:42:36.719 --> 00:42:39.119
very shallow. Every the roads are starting to break down

634
00:42:39.239 --> 00:42:42.159
quite a bit, and from my understanding, that was the

635
00:42:42.280 --> 00:42:45.039
last season that they were going to have that old

636
00:42:45.159 --> 00:42:49.800
little abandoned mining town open. Nobody does obviously lived there.

637
00:42:50.159 --> 00:42:53.320
It was kind of like a ghost town, but there

638
00:42:53.360 --> 00:42:56.079
were still people coming up there periodically, I guess to

639
00:42:56.199 --> 00:42:59.280
mine and stuff, so a lot of mines were still

640
00:42:59.320 --> 00:43:02.119
active up there. We never saw Soul the whole time

641
00:43:02.119 --> 00:43:03.639
we were up there. We went up there, we saw

642
00:43:03.840 --> 00:43:07.400
the abandoned town, We looked around quite a bit.

643
00:43:07.679 --> 00:43:08.400
We used some.

644
00:43:10.079 --> 00:43:15.679
Spearbox devices, ovulist devices, different things like that, kind of

645
00:43:15.760 --> 00:43:19.400
a mixed bag investigation. Do a little bit of bigfoot,

646
00:43:19.519 --> 00:43:23.559
a little bit of ghost and we stayed up there

647
00:43:23.639 --> 00:43:27.119
quite a while. The sun had started to set and

648
00:43:27.239 --> 00:43:30.840
we were coming down, and as we were coming down,

649
00:43:32.159 --> 00:43:37.679
it got darker and darker and darker, and we came

650
00:43:37.840 --> 00:43:42.880
up on this mom and her two baby deers, and

651
00:43:44.239 --> 00:43:47.400
the mom and one of the baby deers went way

652
00:43:47.519 --> 00:43:50.039
up on top of the ridge. It was a real

653
00:43:50.119 --> 00:43:55.039
steep climb, but they made it and the second baby didn't.

654
00:43:55.920 --> 00:43:58.360
So we were thinking, okay, we'll just keep going. It'll

655
00:43:58.559 --> 00:44:02.599
curve our hard right and it'll go up the ridge.

656
00:44:03.199 --> 00:44:05.360
So we the way the road was set up, we

657
00:44:05.559 --> 00:44:08.360
had a drop off on our left as we were

658
00:44:08.400 --> 00:44:10.440
coming down, and then the steep ridge on the right,

659
00:44:11.440 --> 00:44:14.000
and we got down to where it's kind of leveled

660
00:44:14.000 --> 00:44:16.880
out a little bit more on our left side, and

661
00:44:18.360 --> 00:44:20.360
that was when the mom and the baby deer jumped

662
00:44:20.440 --> 00:44:22.880
up and the one baby deer didn't make it. So

663
00:44:22.960 --> 00:44:25.480
we're thinking we can just keep driving. It'll it'll cut right,

664
00:44:25.599 --> 00:44:28.760
it'll head up that ridge back to its mom. Well,

665
00:44:29.119 --> 00:44:31.880
it continued to stay in front of us on this road,

666
00:44:31.920 --> 00:44:34.360
so we're like, we're gonna have to stop and try

667
00:44:34.400 --> 00:44:37.960
to scare it off the road because we don't want

668
00:44:38.000 --> 00:44:40.159
it to get too far from its mom and get lost.

669
00:44:41.400 --> 00:44:44.039
So at that point we were kind of done. We

670
00:44:44.159 --> 00:44:46.159
were packed up, ready to go. We were just trying

671
00:44:46.199 --> 00:44:49.039
to get this baby tear out of our way, and

672
00:44:49.920 --> 00:44:52.840
everybody had already unpacked, like I already hooked unhooked my

673
00:44:52.920 --> 00:44:56.280
fanny pack. I had already, you know, taken some equipment

674
00:44:56.320 --> 00:44:58.519
out of my bag. We're just kind of done for

675
00:44:58.559 --> 00:45:04.360
the night. It was really and so we were talking

676
00:45:04.440 --> 00:45:08.280
up front, and the guy front goes, well, why don't

677
00:45:08.559 --> 00:45:11.760
somebody jump out, Well, we'll run it off the road

678
00:45:12.519 --> 00:45:14.880
so that way it will we'll get out of its

679
00:45:14.920 --> 00:45:17.280
way and it can curve and come back to its mom.

680
00:45:17.960 --> 00:45:19.599
And I was like, I volunteer, I'll do it.

681
00:45:19.679 --> 00:45:20.079
I'll do it.

682
00:45:20.199 --> 00:45:22.639
You know, I'll chase it all the throat. I'm fast

683
00:45:22.679 --> 00:45:26.119
as one here. So we get a little bit further

684
00:45:26.199 --> 00:45:28.000
and we're like, okay, now's the time. You know, we're

685
00:45:28.000 --> 00:45:30.440
close enough we're going to chase it off to chase

686
00:45:30.480 --> 00:45:34.119
it back to its mom. And so I actually have

687
00:45:34.239 --> 00:45:42.239
to jump out over Sherry, And so Sherry is trying

688
00:45:42.239 --> 00:45:43.400
to hurry up and get up and get out of

689
00:45:43.480 --> 00:45:47.760
my way, and I jump out over her and I

690
00:45:47.960 --> 00:45:49.840
just take off run after this deer. And I'm run

691
00:45:49.920 --> 00:45:54.079
as fast as I can and down the way. I'd

692
00:45:54.159 --> 00:45:59.039
say probably about oh three hundred yards.

693
00:46:00.079 --> 00:46:03.320
Big for Society will be right back after these messages.

694
00:46:18.920 --> 00:46:21.559
Maybe two hundred I'm not great with that long of

695
00:46:21.559 --> 00:46:23.719
a distance, but maybe two to three hundred yards away

696
00:46:24.360 --> 00:46:29.159
the road curve slightly left, and I'm running towards that

697
00:46:29.360 --> 00:46:34.239
curve and I'm like, I'm never going to catch this deer.

698
00:46:34.360 --> 00:46:37.480
What was I thinking? This was so stupid? And then

699
00:46:37.519 --> 00:46:40.480
I cut to the left like the road goes. And

700
00:46:41.079 --> 00:46:43.559
as soon as I cut to the left, I'm running

701
00:46:43.719 --> 00:46:49.679
and straightens back out again and I look and right

702
00:46:49.760 --> 00:46:53.920
in front of me, probably about I don't know, maybe

703
00:46:54.440 --> 00:46:57.559
twenty feet in front of me, maybe a little more,

704
00:46:58.239 --> 00:47:03.360
there was this big, massive shadow, and like at first,

705
00:47:03.480 --> 00:47:05.599
I was like, oh, that's my shadow, and I just

706
00:47:05.719 --> 00:47:08.119
keep running because if you don't remember, I had just

707
00:47:08.199 --> 00:47:11.039
run away from the truck who was up above me

708
00:47:11.440 --> 00:47:13.840
further up the road that I had just run away from,

709
00:47:13.920 --> 00:47:16.400
and they had their lights on. I thought it was

710
00:47:16.480 --> 00:47:20.639
my shadow at first, and as I'm still running towards it,

711
00:47:21.480 --> 00:47:26.239
I realized there's no legs moving, and then it dawned

712
00:47:26.280 --> 00:47:29.559
on me. I'm like, oh, that's probably not my shadow.

713
00:47:29.639 --> 00:47:32.039
So I skidded to a stop. My feet slid on

714
00:47:32.119 --> 00:47:36.400
the gravel road, and I just looked at it and

715
00:47:36.519 --> 00:47:38.920
I was kind of stunned, and I was like, I'm

716
00:47:39.000 --> 00:47:40.440
not seeing what I'm seeing. This has got to be

717
00:47:40.480 --> 00:47:43.679
a shadow from somebody up the road. They're walking towards

718
00:47:43.760 --> 00:47:48.960
me something. So I'm watching it and I try I

719
00:47:49.039 --> 00:47:52.360
tilt my head to the right, and I'm thinking, okay,

720
00:47:52.480 --> 00:47:55.719
it's gonna tilt to the right. It's my shadow. And

721
00:47:55.880 --> 00:47:59.960
it tilts its head to the left, and I'm like, okay,

722
00:48:00.639 --> 00:48:04.119
not me, not my shadow. I look up to see

723
00:48:04.159 --> 00:48:07.559
where the truck is and I actually have to look

724
00:48:08.280 --> 00:48:11.079
around the trees just to even see a little slit

725
00:48:11.239 --> 00:48:14.280
of the lights of the truck. So I'm like, wait,

726
00:48:14.519 --> 00:48:17.800
that angles off for it to be from the truck lights.

727
00:48:17.920 --> 00:48:20.960
I look back again. I felt my head to the left,

728
00:48:21.760 --> 00:48:25.679
and it tells its head to the right, and I'm like,

729
00:48:26.719 --> 00:48:29.800
I immediately like I'm seeing what I'm seeing. Oh my gosh,

730
00:48:29.840 --> 00:48:32.400
I'm seeing what I'm seeing. And then I start taking

731
00:48:32.559 --> 00:48:36.039
note of the shape the definition. It looked like it

732
00:48:36.159 --> 00:48:40.239
had like an elongated conical shape head like it was

733
00:48:40.360 --> 00:48:43.639
not like a super cone shape, but it was like tall,

734
00:48:44.000 --> 00:48:47.519
more rounded slightly at the top, and it was just

735
00:48:47.559 --> 00:48:51.760
standing there and obviously the deer had run off as

736
00:48:51.800 --> 00:48:53.639
soon as I saw it, and I slowed my pace.

737
00:48:54.039 --> 00:48:56.159
The deer had run off and went to the left,

738
00:48:56.280 --> 00:48:59.960
down away a little bit, and so I look up

739
00:49:00.440 --> 00:49:03.679
and I'm like, guys, guys, guys, I need lights. I

740
00:49:03.840 --> 00:49:07.199
need something. I'm looking at something, a big shadow, and

741
00:49:07.280 --> 00:49:10.039
I'm like yelling at them, the rest of our team,

742
00:49:11.199 --> 00:49:14.559
and he's I hear, Chad up the road. He's like,

743
00:49:14.840 --> 00:49:18.960
we're going. So I'm like, like, please, harckey. I need

744
00:49:19.119 --> 00:49:23.800
lights because I wanted to see, like see see it

745
00:49:24.400 --> 00:49:27.239
rather than just be in a shadow. But when I

746
00:49:27.400 --> 00:49:30.840
looked up to yell for some some lights, I looked

747
00:49:31.079 --> 00:49:36.000
back and it had gone. But before I looked back,

748
00:49:36.840 --> 00:49:38.719
right when I went to look up, I saw it

749
00:49:38.840 --> 00:49:42.599
take one two steps towards the road, same direction the

750
00:49:42.679 --> 00:49:45.639
deer had just the baby deer had just run, and

751
00:49:45.960 --> 00:49:48.400
it was so fast like it happened boom boom. I

752
00:49:48.480 --> 00:49:50.400
had looked up. I was already in the motion to

753
00:49:50.480 --> 00:49:52.039
look up when I saw it take it steps. And

754
00:49:52.119 --> 00:49:55.840
when I looked back, real fast, it was gone. And

755
00:49:55.960 --> 00:49:58.840
I was thinking, I didn't just see what I think

756
00:49:58.920 --> 00:50:02.000
I saw. There's still nobody here, there's still no lights.

757
00:50:02.119 --> 00:50:04.760
I'm still by myself, and this thing just walked and

758
00:50:04.800 --> 00:50:08.880
now I've lost it, and so finally Chad comes with lights.

759
00:50:08.960 --> 00:50:11.400
I immediately grab it out of his hand. I go

760
00:50:11.559 --> 00:50:13.599
walk over to the area where it was, just to

761
00:50:13.840 --> 00:50:17.400
see what the terrain looked like against that, because it

762
00:50:17.639 --> 00:50:21.000
sloped up real far, real steep, like a rock face,

763
00:50:21.280 --> 00:50:23.079
and that's what I thought I saw the shadow was

764
00:50:23.199 --> 00:50:25.639
just shining on but it wasn't a shadow. It was

765
00:50:25.639 --> 00:50:30.159
actual full silhouette of something. So I'm looking at the

766
00:50:30.320 --> 00:50:33.679
terrain right in front of that rock face to see like, okay,

767
00:50:33.760 --> 00:50:36.840
how much room did it have to stand? Is their footprints?

768
00:50:37.079 --> 00:50:39.840
Is there smashdown grass? And I'm looking to see where

769
00:50:39.880 --> 00:50:44.039
it could have gone. And at that point, my mind

770
00:50:44.280 --> 00:50:47.280
was just kind of swirling with like all the what ifs,

771
00:50:47.519 --> 00:50:51.239
like what if what if it was just the truck lights?

772
00:50:51.280 --> 00:50:54.480
What if you know, you could have just saw it.

773
00:50:54.559 --> 00:50:58.920
Your mind tries to find ways to talk yourself out

774
00:50:59.039 --> 00:51:03.960
of what you just saw. And when I was telling Chad,

775
00:51:04.119 --> 00:51:07.039
like I couldn't get the words out of what I

776
00:51:07.119 --> 00:51:09.840
had saw. It was like, you know, trying to put

777
00:51:09.880 --> 00:51:13.360
together a puzzle that's like speeding by so fast, Like

778
00:51:13.480 --> 00:51:15.360
my thoughts were just racing and I was trying to

779
00:51:15.400 --> 00:51:17.360
explain it to him, and I was like, I swear

780
00:51:17.400 --> 00:51:20.679
I'm not crazy. I swear I'm not crazy because it

781
00:51:20.840 --> 00:51:25.199
sucked for me because I had literally just ran away

782
00:51:25.239 --> 00:51:29.519
from the group and then I see something when I'm

783
00:51:29.559 --> 00:51:33.199
by myself, like I'm telling him, I swear I'm not crazy,

784
00:51:33.360 --> 00:51:37.679
Like it was right there. And they were like, Okay,

785
00:51:37.800 --> 00:51:39.679
we understand. You know, we got to get in the car.

786
00:51:40.280 --> 00:51:42.119
You know, we got we gotta get out of this area.

787
00:51:42.280 --> 00:51:44.880
We're gonna go see if we can, you know, follow

788
00:51:44.960 --> 00:51:46.639
this deer, see if we can still find I'm like,

789
00:51:46.960 --> 00:51:49.800
you guys don't understand. And so we got in the

790
00:51:49.920 --> 00:51:52.679
car and the truck and I just remember the whole

791
00:51:52.760 --> 00:51:57.440
time just it replaying in my head over and over

792
00:51:57.559 --> 00:52:01.119
and over and over, like what else could it have been?

793
00:52:01.679 --> 00:52:05.719
What else was it? But I just remember thinking, did

794
00:52:05.800 --> 00:52:09.719
I really just see my first bigfoot? That I really

795
00:52:09.880 --> 00:52:14.159
just see what I thought I saw? And you know,

796
00:52:14.440 --> 00:52:18.480
it still kind of plagues my mind because I just

797
00:52:19.480 --> 00:52:22.400
I saw it, but I didn't see see it. And

798
00:52:22.840 --> 00:52:28.159
my whole goal is just to have that real good

799
00:52:28.440 --> 00:52:31.719
solid sighting, especially a daylight one, but one where I

800
00:52:31.760 --> 00:52:35.519
can see definition and color and and I almost in

801
00:52:35.599 --> 00:52:38.920
a way felt cheated because I didn't have my flashlight

802
00:52:39.039 --> 00:52:41.920
with me, I didn't have anybody else with me that

803
00:52:42.000 --> 00:52:45.320
could give me another perspective. And so we get in

804
00:52:45.400 --> 00:52:47.519
the car. I'm replaying it in my head and then

805
00:52:48.039 --> 00:52:50.320
I'm thinking, did it get the baby deer? I was

806
00:52:50.360 --> 00:52:53.000
worried about the baby deer? Didn't get the bad ear?

807
00:52:53.039 --> 00:52:54.039
Is that what it was going after?

808
00:52:54.239 --> 00:52:54.400
Why?

809
00:52:54.599 --> 00:52:56.039
You know? Why did it good the same direction as

810
00:52:56.079 --> 00:52:58.639
the baby deer. I'm thinking, Oh, that baby deer is dead,

811
00:52:58.760 --> 00:53:00.880
and I just felt so bad. I chased it right

812
00:53:00.920 --> 00:53:05.400
into it. But then we cut around to the left

813
00:53:05.880 --> 00:53:07.679
and then to the right, and then there's the baby

814
00:53:07.760 --> 00:53:10.159
deer just standing there in the middle of the road still,

815
00:53:11.000 --> 00:53:14.000
and in that moment, it finally decides to veer off

816
00:53:14.159 --> 00:53:16.880
the road, and okay, it was like, Okay, the baby

817
00:53:16.920 --> 00:53:18.440
deer is going to make it back to its mom.

818
00:53:19.400 --> 00:53:20.079
But what was that?

819
00:53:21.880 --> 00:53:27.920
And I still don't one hundred percent know what it was,

820
00:53:28.360 --> 00:53:30.760
But I think it's because I've worked so hard to

821
00:53:30.880 --> 00:53:34.239
talk myself out of what I saw, and I feel

822
00:53:34.239 --> 00:53:37.559
a little cheated that I didn't see it full on

823
00:53:38.119 --> 00:53:41.480
with detail and definition and collar like I would have liked,

824
00:53:43.360 --> 00:53:48.039
but overall, it was a really cool experience. And I

825
00:53:48.119 --> 00:53:51.280
remember talking a Bill about it afterwards. He was super

826
00:53:51.320 --> 00:53:54.360
excited about it, because you know, he was determined to

827
00:53:54.400 --> 00:53:58.320
give some people, you know, this bigfoot experience, and I

828
00:53:58.440 --> 00:54:01.159
feel like I got it, but he wasn't right there

829
00:54:01.199 --> 00:54:04.440
with me. But it was a really cool night.

830
00:54:07.000 --> 00:54:08.800
Quendolen, that's absolutely incredible.

831
00:54:08.960 --> 00:54:09.320
I mean.

832
00:54:11.320 --> 00:54:16.559
To remind listeners of what Bill had said when I

833
00:54:16.679 --> 00:54:21.480
talked to him a while back. Well first said, this

834
00:54:21.559 --> 00:54:22.679
is on Sunday, right.

835
00:54:26.840 --> 00:54:27.280
I am.

836
00:54:27.760 --> 00:54:30.599
I think I think it could have been because I

837
00:54:30.679 --> 00:54:33.519
think I left on a weird day, like a Monday

838
00:54:33.599 --> 00:54:34.159
or Tuesday.

839
00:54:34.800 --> 00:54:40.800
Because Bill had told me about how on the last

840
00:54:40.920 --> 00:54:44.280
day he had come up to you and he had said,

841
00:54:44.360 --> 00:54:48.320
are you ready to see your first bigfoot or sasquatch?

842
00:54:48.840 --> 00:54:52.079
And you'd said, yeah, definitely. He'd also come up to

843
00:54:52.199 --> 00:54:56.960
me after that and asked me the same question. And

844
00:54:57.079 --> 00:55:01.360
I believe that that happened on a Sunday, And that happened,

845
00:55:01.400 --> 00:55:04.679
Oh yeah, exactly.

846
00:55:06.239 --> 00:55:06.519
Wow.

847
00:55:07.880 --> 00:55:11.079
You might not know this. You probably don't, just because

848
00:55:11.159 --> 00:55:15.599
we haven't talked before this since, but and I just

849
00:55:15.639 --> 00:55:18.599
want to share it real quick, so listeners bear with me.

850
00:55:20.559 --> 00:55:21.159
But I.

851
00:55:22.760 --> 00:55:23.280
Left on.

852
00:55:24.920 --> 00:55:29.800
I left on a Tuesday. Near the end, I had

853
00:55:29.960 --> 00:55:32.239
pretty much serious infection in my legs that I got

854
00:55:32.280 --> 00:55:38.440
from up in the woods, and so Monday night or

855
00:55:38.559 --> 00:55:41.840
Monday I had to go into Springfield in order to

856
00:55:42.239 --> 00:55:45.400
go to the doctors get some antibiotics. So the last day,

857
00:55:46.239 --> 00:55:48.599
the last day I was there, I had to cancel

858
00:55:48.679 --> 00:55:53.280
interviews and I was kind of like, forget this. I'm

859
00:55:53.360 --> 00:55:56.199
just going to go out and get a burger and

860
00:55:56.360 --> 00:55:59.840
drive around Hills Creek Reservoir and just enjoy this, right,

861
00:56:01.119 --> 00:56:05.320
And so I drove out there, and as I was

862
00:56:05.440 --> 00:56:07.360
driving down the road, and I don't know if you

863
00:56:07.480 --> 00:56:09.519
got down there, but this is way out there, right,

864
00:56:09.920 --> 00:56:13.840
it's a big reservoir south of Oakridge. I remember driving

865
00:56:15.239 --> 00:56:18.519
driving down the road and looking over to this large

866
00:56:20.480 --> 00:56:25.880
pine tree that was covered with ivy on the front

867
00:56:25.920 --> 00:56:28.960
of it. And from what I saw, it looked like

868
00:56:29.199 --> 00:56:32.639
it was the basic silhouette that you would see of

869
00:56:32.719 --> 00:56:34.800
a bigfoot that was about eight to nine feet tall.

870
00:56:35.920 --> 00:56:39.760
And I saw it for a few seconds and then disappeared.

871
00:56:39.960 --> 00:56:44.679
And so I get that. I get that feeling of

872
00:56:44.840 --> 00:56:47.840
like I don't know if I experienced what I saw,

873
00:56:49.480 --> 00:56:51.639
it may have been I know I had a fever

874
00:56:51.760 --> 00:56:53.639
at the time. It may have been some kind of

875
00:56:53.719 --> 00:56:56.880
hallucination I don't know, could have been the medicine that

876
00:56:57.320 --> 00:57:00.320
was working in my system, or it could have been

877
00:57:00.400 --> 00:57:04.119
something that actually happens. So I get like, ever since then,

878
00:57:04.159 --> 00:57:07.800
I've been trying to talk myself out of it, right,

879
00:57:07.920 --> 00:57:11.360
and it's just it's very very strange. But part of

880
00:57:11.440 --> 00:57:13.960
me is like, why can't I just accept it as well?

881
00:57:14.360 --> 00:57:21.039
You know, it's just very weird. So anyways, I wanted

882
00:57:21.079 --> 00:57:23.480
to put that in there for a little context of

883
00:57:23.880 --> 00:57:27.760
we're both approached by Bill and then we both had

884
00:57:28.079 --> 00:57:29.760
weird things happen afterwards.

885
00:57:31.599 --> 00:57:36.039
Yeah, that is interesting because he was just the way

886
00:57:36.159 --> 00:57:38.199
he asked me. He was like, oh, you're going to

887
00:57:38.280 --> 00:57:42.119
have one, like he just knew. And I was like,

888
00:57:42.320 --> 00:57:43.920
I was like, well, I should hope. So in the

889
00:57:44.000 --> 00:57:49.159
back of my mind, I'm thinking probably not, but you know,

890
00:57:49.199 --> 00:57:51.079
I want to go with it. I'll have faith in it,

891
00:57:51.159 --> 00:57:54.199
you know, like, let's do it. Let's you know, I'll

892
00:57:54.639 --> 00:57:58.079
be gung ho, I'll believe this. But in the back

893
00:57:58.079 --> 00:58:00.639
of my mind, I'm still like I've been doing this

894
00:58:00.880 --> 00:58:04.280
for you know, probably good ten years. The foot research,

895
00:58:05.159 --> 00:58:09.079
so I still haven't seen one, so maybe maybe not.

896
00:58:09.719 --> 00:58:12.239
But I really hoped, like I really had faith that,

897
00:58:12.840 --> 00:58:15.960
you know, he had the good intentions. He seemed like

898
00:58:16.039 --> 00:58:18.920
he was really certain, so I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah,

899
00:58:19.280 --> 00:58:23.119
all right. I never thought that I would actually see that.

900
00:58:23.880 --> 00:58:28.840
I never thought and believe it or not, I'm very

901
00:58:28.920 --> 00:58:33.400
grounded in reality. I do paranormal research, I do bigfoot research.

902
00:58:33.880 --> 00:58:40.039
I'll research anything that's a mystery, really and I do

903
00:58:40.159 --> 00:58:44.480
it from a very you know, grounded perspective. I try

904
00:58:44.599 --> 00:58:47.880
to not be too far out of the box and

905
00:58:48.800 --> 00:58:53.280
try to look at things kind of with a scientific perspective,

906
00:58:54.440 --> 00:58:57.599
you know, always looking for an explanation otherwise first. And

907
00:58:57.760 --> 00:59:00.519
that's that's the way I approach things. So when I

908
00:59:00.719 --> 00:59:03.920
saw that, I spent so much time trying to convince

909
00:59:04.000 --> 00:59:06.920
myself out of what I saw in another explanation for it.

910
00:59:07.920 --> 00:59:10.679
But I even watched there was footage of inside of

911
00:59:10.760 --> 00:59:14.119
the truck as somebody was recording me chasing the deer,

912
00:59:14.760 --> 00:59:18.440
and you'd see me round the curve and I'm like,

913
00:59:18.920 --> 00:59:20.800
and so I'm watching the people because I wanted to

914
00:59:20.840 --> 00:59:23.760
see did anybody get out of the truck and stand

915
00:59:23.880 --> 00:59:26.599
at a distance to where it would account for a

916
00:59:26.719 --> 00:59:29.599
shadow against this big cliff edge. So I watched that

917
00:59:29.719 --> 00:59:32.719
video back three or four times. Only person that got

918
00:59:32.719 --> 00:59:35.760
out of the car that kind of stood in front

919
00:59:35.760 --> 00:59:38.239
of the truck was Sherry. But when you watch the

920
00:59:38.320 --> 00:59:42.960
video back, the headlights actually cut off at her her

921
00:59:43.159 --> 00:59:46.480
like the back of her chest area, like almost at

922
00:59:46.480 --> 00:59:49.119
the very top of her back, So it wouldn't have

923
00:59:49.199 --> 00:59:52.440
created a full silhouette if it was from her. And

924
00:59:52.519 --> 00:59:56.239
then I watched Chad, and Chad was too far out

925
00:59:56.280 --> 00:59:58.440
of the way of the headlights to cast any sort

926
00:59:58.480 --> 01:00:03.000
of shadow. And then I tell myself, you're being silly.

927
01:00:03.119 --> 01:00:05.199
You're just looking for a way out of what you saw,

928
01:00:05.519 --> 01:00:09.119
because you saw that it was solid, you know, like

929
01:00:09.360 --> 01:00:11.719
I knew it was solid. Once I got down there

930
01:00:12.719 --> 01:00:14.920
and I skidded to a stop and I stayed in

931
01:00:15.000 --> 01:00:17.159
my place. I was close enough to it where I

932
01:00:17.199 --> 01:00:21.760
could really see it wasn't a shadow. It was a solid,

933
01:00:22.159 --> 01:00:27.360
dark silhouette. But I really did. I tried hard to

934
01:00:28.000 --> 01:00:31.000
find other ways to explain it away. But it was

935
01:00:31.159 --> 01:00:33.960
just standing there and it had that conical shaped head,

936
01:00:34.920 --> 01:00:37.320
and it was just watching me, and it copied me,

937
01:00:38.079 --> 01:00:41.880
but not exactly copied. And that's what was so weird.

938
01:00:41.960 --> 01:00:43.800
It was almost like playful.

939
01:00:44.000 --> 01:01:04.599
Big for society. Who will be right back after these messages? Wow,

940
01:01:05.119 --> 01:01:08.719
it's it's absolutely incredible. I haven't heard i think in

941
01:01:08.800 --> 01:01:14.960
an account where Yeah, that the whole whole playful where.

942
01:01:15.119 --> 01:01:18.360
I've never really heard that before. It's super super interesting.

943
01:01:18.519 --> 01:01:22.559
So Sherry was with you in the car. Who else

944
01:01:22.760 --> 01:01:23.480
was in there as we?

945
01:01:23.719 --> 01:01:27.119
Priscilla and Stever in the front, and then Sherry was

946
01:01:27.239 --> 01:01:28.800
on my left. I was in the middle in the

947
01:01:28.880 --> 01:01:31.320
back of the truck. And then there was Chad on

948
01:01:31.400 --> 01:01:34.280
my right. Hey, it was with us too. She's a

949
01:01:34.360 --> 01:01:38.199
little mini big footer. So they were all with us

950
01:01:38.440 --> 01:01:39.960
and we were all in the car together. I was

951
01:01:40.039 --> 01:01:42.320
sitting in the back of the truck. The back seat

952
01:01:42.360 --> 01:01:45.199
of the truck, I had to dive over Sherry.

953
01:01:45.000 --> 01:01:45.440
To get out.

954
01:01:45.559 --> 01:01:47.440
But there was quite a few people in the in

955
01:01:47.559 --> 01:01:50.480
the truck, and that's why I was so frustrated, because

956
01:01:50.480 --> 01:01:53.079
I was thinking, why hadn't anybody been with me and

957
01:01:53.199 --> 01:01:53.800
saw it with me.

958
01:01:55.360 --> 01:01:59.800
I also was just messaged Tobe to find out that

959
01:02:00.039 --> 01:02:04.440
area where you guys were. You guys were way out there. Yeah,

960
01:02:04.639 --> 01:02:06.400
that was an area I didn't get to go to

961
01:02:07.559 --> 01:02:11.280
and Yeah, I've heard other people talk about this area

962
01:02:11.320 --> 01:02:16.199
as well, and it is an extremely active area and

963
01:02:17.400 --> 01:02:21.079
extremely intense, So I mean personally, because of I've talked

964
01:02:21.119 --> 01:02:23.119
to a lot of people from the Oakroage area about

965
01:02:23.159 --> 01:02:27.840
this area at times, I'm not surprised that you had

966
01:02:28.639 --> 01:02:31.119
that happen in that area, Gwendolen at all.

967
01:02:33.280 --> 01:02:37.800
Yeah, And the remoteness of this area was just so

968
01:02:38.119 --> 01:02:43.239
vast that all you could see for miles was tree covered,

969
01:02:44.320 --> 01:02:46.920
So I'm honestly not surprised either. I mean, if he's

970
01:02:47.000 --> 01:02:50.639
going to be out there surviving on nature, it's going

971
01:02:50.679 --> 01:02:54.840
to be that area obviously, that area because it has everything,

972
01:02:55.119 --> 01:02:59.760
and it's super super secluded, and it's it's it's just

973
01:02:59.840 --> 01:03:04.039
the perfect area. But it wasn't a big one. It

974
01:03:04.239 --> 01:03:10.119
wasn't super super super tall. It was maybe like seven foot,

975
01:03:12.159 --> 01:03:18.079
and it was when it cocked its head from side

976
01:03:18.119 --> 01:03:21.800
to side. The way it moved, it moved like it's

977
01:03:22.039 --> 01:03:26.639
upper torso along with everything. So it moved one way

978
01:03:27.280 --> 01:03:29.360
and you saw the shoulders and everything kind of move

979
01:03:29.440 --> 01:03:32.119
with it, and then the other way you saw the

980
01:03:32.199 --> 01:03:34.519
shoulders and everything moved with it. So that's what I

981
01:03:34.679 --> 01:03:36.880
thought was super intriguing and That's what made me kind

982
01:03:36.920 --> 01:03:38.760
of look up the hill, like what are they doing?

983
01:03:38.760 --> 01:03:40.960
Because I thought it was that maybe their shadow. Second,

984
01:03:42.880 --> 01:03:44.920
but I couldn't see the truck. I could only see

985
01:03:44.920 --> 01:03:47.400
a sliver of the lights through the through the tree leaves.

986
01:03:49.960 --> 01:03:53.199
So I want to ask a question, what are the

987
01:03:53.320 --> 01:03:56.320
chances that this was someone randomly walking through the woods

988
01:03:56.400 --> 01:03:57.440
like a lost human?

989
01:03:59.039 --> 01:04:05.840
Absolutely? Zero, honestly zero. Yeah, there was nothing anywhere around. Yes,

990
01:04:05.960 --> 01:04:10.920
there's that abandoned mining town up there, but the only

991
01:04:11.039 --> 01:04:14.320
access road is the road that we took. I can't

992
01:04:14.360 --> 01:04:18.000
see anybody hiking for that far to even get up there.

993
01:04:18.000 --> 01:04:21.760
I mean it's miles and miles back. It's probably about

994
01:04:21.920 --> 01:04:25.679
five miles back once you start hitting the gravel road

995
01:04:25.719 --> 01:04:28.639
going up the mountain, so it's pretty far back there.

996
01:04:30.639 --> 01:04:33.320
So I can't see anybody getting up there that far

997
01:04:34.239 --> 01:04:38.559
and then being brave enough to face a truck up

998
01:04:38.599 --> 01:04:43.360
the road with a person staring right in front of them. Also,

999
01:04:43.960 --> 01:04:47.840
wherever it took off to it was fast, very fast.

1000
01:04:48.760 --> 01:04:54.920
Another interesting similarity between yours and other Well, another experience

1001
01:04:54.960 --> 01:04:57.360
I was with is that this happened after you put

1002
01:04:57.440 --> 01:04:59.920
everything away. You kind of were like, well, we're done.

1003
01:05:01.360 --> 01:05:04.159
Put it all away. There's no you weren't ready to

1004
01:05:04.599 --> 01:05:06.559
film a dock or anything like that. You just kind

1005
01:05:06.599 --> 01:05:08.920
of sounds like you're chilling out. Well, there's a deer

1006
01:05:09.039 --> 01:05:10.559
in the middle of the road, and I'll go out

1007
01:05:10.599 --> 01:05:13.119
and help it because I'm a nice person, and that's

1008
01:05:13.880 --> 01:05:16.199
when the stuff happens. That's kind of how it was

1009
01:05:16.519 --> 01:05:20.239
when we heard the vocalizations up by the meadow we had.

1010
01:05:20.559 --> 01:05:23.360
We were just chilling out. I wasn't in recording mode.

1011
01:05:24.199 --> 01:05:27.199
It's just it's very interesting how that always kind of

1012
01:05:27.239 --> 01:05:28.000
seems to happen.

1013
01:05:29.599 --> 01:05:34.400
That is, that does seem to be like a factor

1014
01:05:34.519 --> 01:05:39.800
that hits between sighting and experiences, because you can go

1015
01:05:39.960 --> 01:05:43.639
out and research for hours and not get anything and

1016
01:05:43.719 --> 01:05:46.119
go back to your camp and then you start getting

1017
01:05:46.159 --> 01:05:49.960
everything happen ounly camp. It's just it is weird. They're

1018
01:05:50.000 --> 01:05:53.320
not dumb, They're very smart. They know when to do things,

1019
01:05:54.519 --> 01:05:57.079
and it's just the more I'm out there doing this

1020
01:05:57.320 --> 01:06:00.400
in the field and getting to know what I think

1021
01:06:00.639 --> 01:06:03.920
is you know, my version, I'm getting to know Bigfoot.

1022
01:06:04.760 --> 01:06:07.719
It's just mind blowing to figure out how intelligent they

1023
01:06:07.760 --> 01:06:10.679
are and how on Q they are and they know

1024
01:06:10.800 --> 01:06:14.440
what you're doing. They're not dumb, and it just kind

1025
01:06:14.480 --> 01:06:15.159
of blows my mind.

1026
01:06:15.239 --> 01:06:15.360
Oh.

1027
01:06:15.400 --> 01:06:20.800
Absolutely, And I'm probably gonna I'm going to release this

1028
01:06:21.960 --> 01:06:26.480
around when you guys released the Oakridge episode, which could

1029
01:06:26.480 --> 01:06:33.119
be months from now. But yeah, so just a it's

1030
01:06:33.199 --> 01:06:35.719
a weird, weird, such a weird thing because if you

1031
01:06:35.760 --> 01:06:38.400
think about all the things that happened with I'm thinking

1032
01:06:38.400 --> 01:06:40.800
about people from your group, and by your group, I

1033
01:06:40.880 --> 01:06:48.800
mean searching for a sasquatch team you had including you, one, two, three,

1034
01:06:49.960 --> 01:06:58.039
four sightings you had yours. You had the sasquatch jumping

1035
01:06:58.079 --> 01:07:00.360
out of the tree by the meadow. You had Chad

1036
01:07:00.519 --> 01:07:02.960
seeing the one running down the side of the mountain,

1037
01:07:03.480 --> 01:07:06.000
and then you saw or you had the group that

1038
01:07:06.239 --> 01:07:09.519
saw them in the trees when they were going to

1039
01:07:09.599 --> 01:07:14.679
pick moss. I think this is this is before I

1040
01:07:14.800 --> 01:07:16.400
got out there, and I got out there on Wednesday.

1041
01:07:16.480 --> 01:07:19.920
So that's a solid four sightings that just were not

1042
01:07:20.079 --> 01:07:25.960
documented because for some reason or another. I mean, stuff

1043
01:07:26.039 --> 01:07:29.559
happens when you don't have the stuff ready, and it

1044
01:07:29.960 --> 01:07:33.159
happened to me too. It's just it's such it's the

1045
01:07:33.239 --> 01:07:36.639
curse of Bigfoot. That's that's really what you have to

1046
01:07:36.679 --> 01:07:40.480
call it. But yeah, I don't know. Maybe maybe Jason

1047
01:07:40.559 --> 01:07:43.039
is holding on to some stuff and you know, who knows,

1048
01:07:43.599 --> 01:07:47.119
he'll release his documentary. Did you have any other interesting

1049
01:07:47.559 --> 01:07:49.840
adventures you were involved with during your time there?

1050
01:07:52.440 --> 01:07:59.000
Honestly, whole trip was just one big adventure, and I'm

1051
01:07:59.039 --> 01:08:01.760
excited to go back. I actually have already tried to

1052
01:08:01.800 --> 01:08:04.639
start planning out going back there in the spring because

1053
01:08:04.679 --> 01:08:06.960
I want to get back up to that mining town.

1054
01:08:07.000 --> 01:08:09.320
I mean, I know, like technically the access road will

1055
01:08:09.360 --> 01:08:12.440
be closed, uh, but I'm not planning on going too

1056
01:08:12.480 --> 01:08:14.119
far back in there. I'm not probably won't go up

1057
01:08:14.199 --> 01:08:16.680
to the mining town, but I definitely want to get

1058
01:08:16.720 --> 01:08:18.319
up back up to that same area where I saw

1059
01:08:18.399 --> 01:08:22.119
what I saw, because you know, we talked to a

1060
01:08:22.199 --> 01:08:24.279
lot of people while we were there, a lot of

1061
01:08:24.399 --> 01:08:27.680
daytime sidings, which is very unique, and it seemed like

1062
01:08:27.800 --> 01:08:29.960
that was more kind of the norm for that area

1063
01:08:30.680 --> 01:08:34.479
was to have a daytime siety. So you know, what

1064
01:08:34.640 --> 01:08:36.920
better place to go if you want to see it

1065
01:08:37.159 --> 01:08:40.279
full on than that area. So I'm already planning to

1066
01:08:40.359 --> 01:08:43.000
go back out there because I want to go back

1067
01:08:43.000 --> 01:08:44.880
to that spot and I want to just sit there

1068
01:08:45.119 --> 01:08:47.720
and try some new techniques and stuff. That some of

1069
01:08:47.760 --> 01:08:50.479
the other people from around the area have tried and

1070
01:08:50.680 --> 01:08:54.199
say are good ways to get some sort of interaction,

1071
01:08:55.199 --> 01:09:01.000
Because I do think that Bigfoot is different based on

1072
01:09:01.119 --> 01:09:04.920
your location, you know, I think that you know, just

1073
01:09:05.079 --> 01:09:10.119
like people from Kentucky have a certain slang to their lingo,

1074
01:09:10.880 --> 01:09:15.239
to their verbiage, Ohioans don't as much. They have a

1075
01:09:15.279 --> 01:09:19.520
certain accent. Everybody all over the US, even though we're

1076
01:09:19.680 --> 01:09:24.720
barely separated, we have different habits, different behaviors, different favorite things.

1077
01:09:25.600 --> 01:09:27.439
And I find that it seems to be like that

1078
01:09:27.560 --> 01:09:28.119
with Bigfoot.

1079
01:09:28.159 --> 01:09:28.319
Two.

1080
01:09:29.079 --> 01:09:34.640
Do you go to different areas, different techniques work, different

1081
01:09:34.720 --> 01:09:39.199
types of sightings occur in certain areas, So you know,

1082
01:09:39.239 --> 01:09:41.000
I'm really excited to go back out there and try

1083
01:09:41.119 --> 01:09:43.720
some of the things that the locals said work for

1084
01:09:43.800 --> 01:09:45.039
interaction with Bigfoot there.

1085
01:09:47.359 --> 01:09:51.079
Absolutely, I mean, it was crazy how much stuff was

1086
01:09:51.199 --> 01:09:56.319
happening for us during the twelve to four pm timeframe

1087
01:09:56.800 --> 01:09:58.159
when we were out in the woods. And also a

1088
01:09:58.239 --> 01:10:00.399
lot of people, I agree with you talking to a

1089
01:10:00.439 --> 01:10:01.880
lot of people at my booth and they were saying

1090
01:10:01.920 --> 01:10:06.199
the same thing. A lot of daytime sightings. So are

1091
01:10:06.239 --> 01:10:08.760
you saying that you might actually go back in the springtime.

1092
01:10:10.920 --> 01:10:11.159
Yeah.

1093
01:10:11.359 --> 01:10:14.079
Yeah, I'm already trying to get some plans in order.

1094
01:10:15.079 --> 01:10:17.000
So yeah, I want to give back up there and

1095
01:10:17.159 --> 01:10:18.039
go head back up to.

1096
01:10:18.039 --> 01:10:22.159
Their area, so i'd be before that. I'm planning on

1097
01:10:22.279 --> 01:10:24.439
going to the festival again next year, so that would

1098
01:10:24.439 --> 01:10:26.239
be you're talking outside of the festival.

1099
01:10:28.239 --> 01:10:30.479
Yes, yeah, it'll be outside of the festival, and then

1100
01:10:30.520 --> 01:10:32.359
I also will be there for that.

1101
01:10:33.079 --> 01:10:37.600
That's awesome. So I have some follow up questions for

1102
01:10:37.720 --> 01:10:42.520
you as well, just because of things I've started to experience.

1103
01:10:46.960 --> 01:10:50.640
I want to ask this a certain way. Let me think,

1104
01:10:54.159 --> 01:10:56.920
do you feel like you were affected in any way

1105
01:10:57.199 --> 01:11:03.279
by the sighting that you had, either mentally or physically.

1106
01:11:06.000 --> 01:11:06.680
I don't think so.

1107
01:11:07.239 --> 01:11:10.000
I don't think so. I was just kind of stuck

1108
01:11:10.079 --> 01:11:12.960
in shocked mode for quite a few days.

1109
01:11:13.640 --> 01:11:16.800
Gotcha. And when when you got home did you start

1110
01:11:16.880 --> 01:11:22.159
to have any dreams about that area at any time? I?

1111
01:11:22.279 --> 01:11:24.560
Actually no, I don't know if it was that area,

1112
01:11:24.680 --> 01:11:28.359
but I did have a dream that kind of was

1113
01:11:28.399 --> 01:11:33.800
a continuance of that experience. So I'm not sure if

1114
01:11:33.800 --> 01:11:36.079
it was the same area because it was more flat terrain,

1115
01:11:36.359 --> 01:11:39.359
but there was a bigfoot there and I just remember

1116
01:11:40.159 --> 01:11:44.560
playing Peekaboo with it, and then when I couldn't find it,

1117
01:11:44.840 --> 01:11:47.319
I went looking around for it and I couldn't find

1118
01:11:47.319 --> 01:11:49.039
it anymore. And then that was the rest of my dream,

1119
01:11:49.159 --> 01:11:51.039
just trying to find the one I was playing Peekaboo with.

1120
01:11:52.399 --> 01:11:54.680
But I felt like it was kind of a continuance

1121
01:11:54.840 --> 01:11:57.359
from that situation, and maybe it was because it was

1122
01:11:57.560 --> 01:11:59.880
stuck on my head for so many days, but it

1123
01:12:00.239 --> 01:12:02.439
was wasn't until after I got back, and I think

1124
01:12:02.520 --> 01:12:05.439
I talked on the phone with Bill, and then that

1125
01:12:05.720 --> 01:12:08.680
night was when I had that weird dream.

1126
01:12:10.520 --> 01:12:17.079
Yeah, when when I got back, I started having extremely

1127
01:12:17.199 --> 01:12:21.239
vivid dreams of that area that we were in, where

1128
01:12:21.319 --> 01:12:24.560
we had interactions and almost to the point where I

1129
01:12:24.600 --> 01:12:27.159
felt like I could interact with what was happening in

1130
01:12:27.319 --> 01:12:29.920
the dream at the time. I don't know if you've

1131
01:12:29.960 --> 01:12:31.960
ever had any like that where it's just like very

1132
01:12:32.199 --> 01:12:34.920
very intense and you're not even sure if it's real

1133
01:12:35.000 --> 01:12:37.479
life or a dream. So I was curious if that

1134
01:12:37.640 --> 01:12:41.359
had if that had happened to you at all. And

1135
01:12:41.439 --> 01:12:46.439
then also it's it feels like you as well, are

1136
01:12:46.479 --> 01:12:56.840
definitely feeling drawn back to that area. Oh yes, thing

1137
01:12:56.920 --> 01:13:00.680
where you close your eyes and you can you can

1138
01:13:00.800 --> 01:13:03.119
just see the area. It's very much in your mind.

1139
01:13:04.000 --> 01:13:09.039
Yeah, oh for sure. Yeah, yeah, I remember the whole

1140
01:13:09.199 --> 01:13:13.880
scenery from everything just it was all consuming. That's all

1141
01:13:13.920 --> 01:13:16.000
I could think about of that night, was just that

1142
01:13:16.399 --> 01:13:17.399
particular incident.

1143
01:13:18.520 --> 01:13:23.239
So here's the thing, Gwendolen. It's a weird thing I'm

1144
01:13:23.319 --> 01:13:27.920
starting to see because I've been talking to a few

1145
01:13:27.960 --> 01:13:29.840
people that were with me up in the Meadow area,

1146
01:13:29.880 --> 01:13:32.560
which is a totally different area than where you're at,

1147
01:13:32.720 --> 01:13:35.600
but you're kind of experiencing the same thing, which is

1148
01:13:35.840 --> 01:13:44.319
that different people are being drawn back to certain areas

1149
01:13:44.399 --> 01:13:48.199
where they had some kind of interaction with a bigfoot

1150
01:13:48.239 --> 01:13:53.000
type creature. And it's just it's very weird. I don't

1151
01:13:53.039 --> 01:13:56.359
know if this happens to different people when they have

1152
01:13:56.600 --> 01:13:59.520
encounters in different parts of the US, or maybe it

1153
01:13:59.760 --> 01:14:03.399
has something to do with this whole area of Oakridge.

1154
01:14:03.439 --> 01:14:08.279
Maybe there's something strange going on there that draws people back,

1155
01:14:08.479 --> 01:14:10.680
or I don't know. It's just it's it's kind of

1156
01:14:10.720 --> 01:14:14.680
an interesting thread that that is coming out in all

1157
01:14:14.720 --> 01:14:17.760
these little interviews that I'm doing about the area and

1158
01:14:18.119 --> 01:14:21.439
that week of July, which feels like it was a

1159
01:14:21.520 --> 01:14:23.439
year ago. But it's really just a few months ago.

1160
01:14:25.680 --> 01:14:28.960
It does feel like it's been ages ago already, but

1161
01:14:29.079 --> 01:14:32.319
I find that interesting. So pretty much everybody who spoke

1162
01:14:32.399 --> 01:14:35.000
with has expressed interest on going back there.

1163
01:14:35.199 --> 01:14:37.960
Then, yeah, oh absolutely.

1164
01:14:38.039 --> 01:14:38.319
I mean.

1165
01:14:38.800 --> 01:14:43.560
So here's the way I explained it, and hopefully people know.

1166
01:14:44.039 --> 01:14:46.880
Remember this show that was came out twenty years ago,

1167
01:14:47.439 --> 01:14:49.479
which is called Lost. I don't know if you remember that.

1168
01:14:51.279 --> 01:14:52.319
Oh I do.

1169
01:14:52.560 --> 01:14:54.680
Oh thanks that I feel so old, Okay, So I'll

1170
01:14:54.680 --> 01:14:57.079
explain it. So it's this, It's this group of people

1171
01:14:57.119 --> 01:14:59.399
that crash land on an island in the high strangeness

1172
01:14:59.479 --> 01:15:01.479
all over the place, like polar bear on the middle

1173
01:15:01.479 --> 01:15:04.079
of a tropical island, right, weird stuff. So they fight

1174
01:15:04.159 --> 01:15:05.880
and fight and fight, try to get off the island

1175
01:15:05.960 --> 01:15:09.079
for like seasons. Right then they get back to their

1176
01:15:09.119 --> 01:15:11.960
normal lives and then all they can think about is

1177
01:15:12.000 --> 01:15:14.319
trying to get back to this place because it's drawing

1178
01:15:14.479 --> 01:15:17.119
them back. And I'm not going to spoil the show

1179
01:15:17.119 --> 01:15:18.800
because people need to watch it if they haven't, but

1180
01:15:19.439 --> 01:15:23.359
it has a lot of similarities where it for some reason,

1181
01:15:23.560 --> 01:15:28.000
it just seems to draw people back in. So I

1182
01:15:28.039 --> 01:15:30.399
don't know, I haven't quite figured that out. Maybe more

1183
01:15:30.479 --> 01:15:35.359
will be revealed when you know we get back. I'll

1184
01:15:35.439 --> 01:15:39.039
be back July. Big for Society will be right back.

1185
01:15:39.119 --> 01:15:58.720
After these messages, you might even be back sooner. Hopefully

1186
01:15:58.760 --> 01:16:01.079
you're able to get back there soon. But when you

1187
01:16:02.239 --> 01:16:04.520
when you think about that week, were there any other

1188
01:16:05.279 --> 01:16:08.520
instances where you feel like you had an interaction or

1189
01:16:09.640 --> 01:16:14.880
something happened that was Bigfoot related in the same area

1190
01:16:15.000 --> 01:16:18.760
you were out in the woods or besides the mine area.

1191
01:16:21.800 --> 01:16:25.000
Not really. I mean, we had a lot of strange

1192
01:16:25.079 --> 01:16:30.279
sounds around us at different given points, but you know,

1193
01:16:30.279 --> 01:16:32.880
when you're out in the wilderness, there's a lot of

1194
01:16:32.920 --> 01:16:38.680
noises out there, so they were super interesting and you know,

1195
01:16:39.079 --> 01:16:41.880
something more to like into but which we did in

1196
01:16:41.960 --> 01:16:44.960
the moment, but it wasn't this is definitely Bigfoot.

1197
01:16:47.600 --> 01:16:50.479
Was there anything out in the woods that was very

1198
01:16:51.479 --> 01:16:54.960
hard to understand what was going on? Not necessarily Bigfoot related,

1199
01:16:55.000 --> 01:16:58.000
but you just you had no reason as to why

1200
01:16:58.199 --> 01:17:01.039
you found something or heard something or just was totally

1201
01:17:01.079 --> 01:17:01.760
out of the ordinary.

1202
01:17:04.159 --> 01:17:07.199
Well that on that same day, when we were up

1203
01:17:07.239 --> 01:17:14.880
in the the like ghost mining town, we had the

1204
01:17:15.640 --> 01:17:17.640
I think it was camera for we were using the ovulis.

1205
01:17:17.720 --> 01:17:20.399
There's spearbox in the moment, but we had one of

1206
01:17:20.479 --> 01:17:25.760
our devices out and we heard this weird, like little

1207
01:17:25.840 --> 01:17:29.079
screech and it was like no animal had heard before.

1208
01:17:29.239 --> 01:17:33.359
And I was like, it didn't really sound like an animal,

1209
01:17:34.239 --> 01:17:36.720
but it could have been. I'm like, I've never heard

1210
01:17:36.720 --> 01:17:40.640
of the animal before. But the device, I can't remember

1211
01:17:40.720 --> 01:17:43.199
exactly what it said, but I remember it said something

1212
01:17:43.560 --> 01:17:47.920
that connected it to the noise, and I'm like, oh,

1213
01:17:48.000 --> 01:17:51.640
that's weird. Or always said that was me. That's what

1214
01:17:51.760 --> 01:17:52.079
it said.

1215
01:17:52.119 --> 01:17:52.560
That was me.

1216
01:17:53.560 --> 01:17:57.359
So it felt kind of separate from the whole Bigfoot thing.

1217
01:17:57.520 --> 01:18:01.479
Felt very paranormal. But that did happen while we were

1218
01:18:01.560 --> 01:18:03.239
up there, and that was the same day that I.

1219
01:18:03.359 --> 01:18:04.119
Saw what I saw.

1220
01:18:04.479 --> 01:18:08.439
Okay, that's interesting because Sherry also had a really weird thing.

1221
01:18:08.600 --> 01:18:14.319
She's talked about this. So in the meadow area, she

1222
01:18:14.479 --> 01:18:17.119
had walked off by herself down the road and this

1223
01:18:17.239 --> 01:18:19.600
is about like this is late at night, so it's

1224
01:18:19.600 --> 01:18:21.640
all dark, and she said that she had heard her

1225
01:18:21.760 --> 01:18:23.840
voice called from the woods multiple times.

1226
01:18:24.800 --> 01:18:29.800
So that's right, that did happen. That was a totally

1227
01:18:29.880 --> 01:18:33.359
different night. Yes, we were actually I was with Chad

1228
01:18:33.439 --> 01:18:38.399
Datama and Jason Kinsey. We had decided we were going

1229
01:18:38.479 --> 01:18:40.640
to cut off of the road. We were up like

1230
01:18:40.760 --> 01:18:43.319
a different mountain side. They had me so many places

1231
01:18:43.479 --> 01:18:47.880
I couldn't hardly keep them straight. But we decided to

1232
01:18:47.960 --> 01:18:50.560
cut off the road and we went up this real

1233
01:18:50.640 --> 01:18:54.920
steep hill and we ended up finding a path, and

1234
01:18:55.039 --> 01:18:58.079
the idea was, oh, cool, this is like a super

1235
01:18:58.560 --> 01:19:01.960
like remote path. Nobody ever hardly uses it. You can

1236
01:19:02.039 --> 01:19:05.159
definitely tell let's just take this path. Eventually it'll get

1237
01:19:05.239 --> 01:19:07.159
us back to the rest of the group. Because we

1238
01:19:07.359 --> 01:19:11.479
had the rest of the group up at the end,

1239
01:19:11.640 --> 01:19:15.760
at the dead end, further up the road, and everybody's

1240
01:19:15.840 --> 01:19:18.640
kind of rebranched off in the smaller groups, everybody's kind

1241
01:19:18.640 --> 01:19:21.439
of doing their own thing. So I was with Jason

1242
01:19:21.520 --> 01:19:26.479
and Chad and we were walking this trail and all

1243
01:19:26.520 --> 01:19:28.800
of a sudden, Jason stops and he goes, do you

1244
01:19:28.840 --> 01:19:31.600
hear that? And I had only heard a little flit

1245
01:19:31.680 --> 01:19:35.399
of it, and I was like, yeah, it sounds like

1246
01:19:35.479 --> 01:19:40.079
people talking. And Chad goes, oh, it's probably just them

1247
01:19:40.159 --> 01:19:42.319
down by the car. And I pull up my map

1248
01:19:42.359 --> 01:19:44.720
because I just felt like we're definitely further than the

1249
01:19:44.800 --> 01:19:47.600
car than we think. So I pull up my naw,

1250
01:19:47.760 --> 01:19:49.600
and I look and I'm like, no, we're right here.

1251
01:19:50.359 --> 01:19:52.920
The car is way over there, and I show them

1252
01:19:52.920 --> 01:19:55.319
on the map and I'm like, there's no way we're

1253
01:19:55.319 --> 01:19:57.920
hearing them talk and regular voices from all the way

1254
01:19:57.920 --> 01:20:01.359
over here. We walk a little bit more and then

1255
01:20:01.479 --> 01:20:05.000
Chad stops right in front of us. He's like, twist

1256
01:20:05.039 --> 01:20:07.880
hear that. And I didn't hear anything that time. And

1257
01:20:07.880 --> 01:20:09.600
I can't remember if Jason had heard at that point

1258
01:20:09.680 --> 01:20:12.119
or not, but I didn't hear at that time. And

1259
01:20:12.239 --> 01:20:16.000
Chad's like, I just heard people talking. And We're like,

1260
01:20:16.119 --> 01:20:18.840
no way, this is so cool. So finally we get

1261
01:20:18.880 --> 01:20:21.600
out and we meet up with the rest of the

1262
01:20:21.680 --> 01:20:25.760
group and then Sherry tells us that she heard voices

1263
01:20:26.439 --> 01:20:29.920
saying her name, and I'm like, are you kidding me?

1264
01:20:30.119 --> 01:20:35.800
We all heard voices. But again, this was yet another area.

1265
01:20:36.560 --> 01:20:38.720
As you know, that whole area over there where those

1266
01:20:38.720 --> 01:20:42.039
mountains and everything are, they are so remote. Most of

1267
01:20:42.079 --> 01:20:45.199
it's only logging mining stuff like that, Like it's just

1268
01:20:45.319 --> 01:20:48.159
access roads. There's not a whole lot of people that's

1269
01:20:48.199 --> 01:20:51.119
gonna frequent that area. And I mean, there's no way.

1270
01:20:51.760 --> 01:20:53.960
It was two o'clock in the morning. I think by

1271
01:20:54.039 --> 01:20:57.199
the time we made it out, so this probably was

1272
01:20:57.239 --> 01:21:00.239
about one am when we were hearing this. There's no

1273
01:21:00.359 --> 01:21:02.840
way there's people up here running around on this mountain

1274
01:21:03.439 --> 01:21:07.399
side down the mountain roads just talking in normal voices

1275
01:21:07.399 --> 01:21:10.039
and we can hear them. There's no way. So that

1276
01:21:10.279 --> 01:21:13.760
was really really strange, and it correlated when we went

1277
01:21:13.840 --> 01:21:16.039
back down and sher you had heard voices as well.

1278
01:21:17.800 --> 01:21:21.760
Now, is this the same time when you guys found

1279
01:21:21.800 --> 01:21:24.720
the wood knots pulled out of the trees up there?

1280
01:21:26.319 --> 01:21:30.239
Yes, okay, so yeah, that was the Yeah, that was

1281
01:21:30.319 --> 01:21:34.159
the same area we were walking and we found three

1282
01:21:34.800 --> 01:21:37.520
wood knots. They were just I don't know if they

1283
01:21:37.560 --> 01:21:41.000
were like banged out of the trees, like the trees

1284
01:21:41.079 --> 01:21:45.000
were turned out ridden, something banged them out, or if

1285
01:21:45.520 --> 01:21:50.119
they were ripped out. But I never knew that knots

1286
01:21:50.600 --> 01:21:53.479
led down in a tree that far. But on the

1287
01:21:53.800 --> 01:21:55.800
other side of the tree, where the knot went inside

1288
01:21:55.840 --> 01:21:59.479
the tree, it extended out probably almost a foot, so

1289
01:22:01.359 --> 01:22:03.880
they were really far into the tree. And I'm thinking, now,

1290
01:22:04.359 --> 01:22:06.880
there's three in a row, and then there was four.

1291
01:22:07.000 --> 01:22:10.239
There was three together, and there was one way off

1292
01:22:10.359 --> 01:22:12.840
up the there was all sitting on a log just perfectly.

1293
01:22:13.520 --> 01:22:15.800
But the fourth one was sitting up further on the log,

1294
01:22:16.319 --> 01:22:18.239
and I'm like, dude, okay, the ones that are right

1295
01:22:18.319 --> 01:22:21.479
here on like blocking this path. There's three of them,

1296
01:22:21.720 --> 01:22:24.319
and there's three of us, and then there's that little

1297
01:22:24.359 --> 01:22:27.479
one up there. What if that's for ava? So we

1298
01:22:27.680 --> 01:22:30.039
were like, you know, we need to like trade gifts.

1299
01:22:30.880 --> 01:22:34.039
So we each left something behind to take the knots,

1300
01:22:35.319 --> 01:22:40.760
and we ended up coming across a tree that was

1301
01:22:40.880 --> 01:22:43.319
laying there and I was like, I was like, oh, guys,

1302
01:22:43.399 --> 01:22:46.600
right here there was a tree that had been eaten

1303
01:22:46.640 --> 01:22:48.479
away by termites a little bit, and there was a

1304
01:22:48.560 --> 01:22:51.399
little tiny piece of a knot sticking out, and I

1305
01:22:51.520 --> 01:22:54.000
was like, let's see how much strength it takes to

1306
01:22:54.079 --> 01:22:57.720
get this knot out of this tree. And so Jason's

1307
01:22:57.760 --> 01:22:59.960
pulling and pulling and pulling, and he can't get it out.

1308
01:23:00.680 --> 01:23:03.439
So I just start like banging away at it and

1309
01:23:03.560 --> 01:23:06.960
even banging away at it, even though the the down

1310
01:23:07.079 --> 01:23:10.880
tree was termite ridden. It took forever, and I just

1311
01:23:10.960 --> 01:23:12.840
chipped away a little bit and exposed a little bit

1312
01:23:12.880 --> 01:23:15.840
more than not. So however, these knots ended up coming

1313
01:23:15.880 --> 01:23:17.880
out of those trees that they were removed from is

1314
01:23:17.960 --> 01:23:24.399
beyond me. But somebody with opposable thumbs, whether it be

1315
01:23:24.479 --> 01:23:28.279
Bigfoot or something else, must have tooken those out and

1316
01:23:28.520 --> 01:23:30.399
just sat them placed them there perfectly.

1317
01:23:30.960 --> 01:23:31.720
But I don't know why.

1318
01:23:31.760 --> 01:23:33.039
It was very interesting though.

1319
01:23:33.800 --> 01:23:36.439
No, absolutely, I know that because I was in the

1320
01:23:36.520 --> 01:23:39.920
group that was hanging out by that vehicle at the

1321
01:23:40.119 --> 01:23:43.720
end of the road, and so I know you guys

1322
01:23:44.279 --> 01:23:45.880
like that was the night you guys went up and

1323
01:23:45.960 --> 01:23:48.600
then you were gone for like forty five minutes to

1324
01:23:48.680 --> 01:23:50.279
an hour, and then we were trying to find you,

1325
01:23:51.000 --> 01:23:52.560
and then you were running down the mountain and we

1326
01:23:52.760 --> 01:23:56.960
happened to intersect with you. So I remember that. So

1327
01:23:57.079 --> 01:24:04.720
that area, that's the meadow area, Yeah, okay, Yeah, So

1328
01:24:04.840 --> 01:24:08.560
that's where Ronnie and Dwayne had their experience where Chad

1329
01:24:09.000 --> 01:24:11.680
saw the Bigfoot at the edge of the meadow where

1330
01:24:11.920 --> 01:24:15.000
Chad's frew up in the tree. The banana got peeled

1331
01:24:15.000 --> 01:24:18.079
and eaten and we found that on the ground the

1332
01:24:18.199 --> 01:24:21.840
next day. That's all in that area, and there's been

1333
01:24:21.880 --> 01:24:24.079
a ton of activity in that area.

1334
01:24:25.840 --> 01:24:26.039
Yeah.

1335
01:24:26.159 --> 01:24:28.399
So did you ever did you go up to that

1336
01:24:28.520 --> 01:24:30.640
area any other time or is that the only time

1337
01:24:30.720 --> 01:24:33.199
that you had gone up to that area there.

1338
01:24:36.760 --> 01:24:41.119
I do remember we went there one of the earlier

1339
01:24:41.239 --> 01:24:43.000
nights we were there. I think it was either the

1340
01:24:43.039 --> 01:24:46.159
first or second night we were there, and Chad wanted

1341
01:24:46.199 --> 01:24:49.439
to show us what he called the banana tree where

1342
01:24:49.479 --> 01:24:51.720
he hung all the fruit and stuff, And when we

1343
01:24:51.800 --> 01:24:53.960
went back to go look at it, he was like

1344
01:24:54.119 --> 01:24:58.720
freaking out because something had yet again manipulated that whole

1345
01:24:58.800 --> 01:25:00.720
area and moved to around again.

1346
01:25:03.000 --> 01:25:04.199
Yeah, taking the fruit out.

1347
01:25:04.319 --> 01:25:05.239
Oh, I guess we went.

1348
01:25:05.159 --> 01:25:05.840
There that night.

1349
01:25:06.600 --> 01:25:09.239
Yeah, there that night and then I guess, yeah, I

1350
01:25:09.239 --> 01:25:12.319
guess it was the same area. Uh, seven nights later

1351
01:25:12.960 --> 01:25:14.520
when those stuff happened.

1352
01:25:16.000 --> 01:25:20.720
That's wild. That is just that's so incredible, especially if

1353
01:25:20.760 --> 01:25:23.920
you once you start hearing everyone's story and you start

1354
01:25:24.000 --> 01:25:27.640
piecing it together. It is very very cool. I mean

1355
01:25:27.680 --> 01:25:32.880
because you have I mean Jason and Chad staying in

1356
01:25:33.000 --> 01:25:36.479
a tent by themselves in that same area, which is wild.

1357
01:25:37.079 --> 01:25:41.720
I talked to them about that too. Do you know

1358
01:25:41.760 --> 01:25:43.920
if the whole team is planning on going back to

1359
01:25:44.000 --> 01:25:45.079
the festival next year?

1360
01:25:47.079 --> 01:25:49.039
Yes, yeah, we've all agreed that we're all going to

1361
01:25:49.119 --> 01:25:50.640
go as the whole team.

1362
01:25:50.720 --> 01:25:57.359
Did you have any interesting people that shared sighting reports

1363
01:25:57.399 --> 01:25:58.680
to you? Guys over there.

1364
01:26:02.399 --> 01:26:05.000
Yeah, there was a lot of I think that a

1365
01:26:05.079 --> 01:26:07.880
lot of paranormal reports came to me just because I

1366
01:26:07.960 --> 01:26:11.880
think it was one of the few openly paranormal investigators there,

1367
01:26:13.520 --> 01:26:15.359
just because that's my forte. I had a lot of

1368
01:26:15.479 --> 01:26:19.239
paranormal stories come my way. I talked a lot with Bill.

1369
01:26:19.359 --> 01:26:23.760
He shared some of his experiences with me. Yeah, there

1370
01:26:23.840 --> 01:26:26.039
was just a lot of the people, mostly speakers. We

1371
01:26:26.159 --> 01:26:28.840
were all talking, and then I got quite a few

1372
01:26:28.880 --> 01:26:29.720
paranormal stories.

1373
01:26:30.279 --> 01:26:33.600
Did you get any reports of like the Fay or

1374
01:26:33.680 --> 01:26:34.920
anything like that in that area?

1375
01:26:37.199 --> 01:26:39.840
Actually, no nobody ever came in talk to me about

1376
01:26:39.840 --> 01:26:41.159
any kind of Fay experiences.

1377
01:26:41.479 --> 01:26:43.600
Okay, I've had one person reach out to me, but

1378
01:26:43.680 --> 01:26:46.439
they wouldn't come on the show, and they just said

1379
01:26:46.479 --> 01:26:51.479
they've had experiences with Fay and woodland spirits and weird

1380
01:26:51.520 --> 01:26:53.920
stuff like that in that area. So I couldn't get

1381
01:26:53.960 --> 01:26:58.800
them to go into details, but something to keep keep

1382
01:26:58.840 --> 01:27:06.000
an ear out for. I wouldn't recommend. I'm going to

1383
01:27:06.039 --> 01:27:09.319
close this out first, So Gwendolyn, it has been a

1384
01:27:09.479 --> 01:27:12.560
pleasure chatting with you. It's great to finally get you

1385
01:27:12.680 --> 01:27:15.159
on the show and to get your version of what

1386
01:27:15.359 --> 01:27:18.960
happened during Sasquatch Summerfest last year. Thank you for coming on.

1387
01:27:21.279 --> 01:27:22.279
Thank you so much for having me.

1388
01:27:22.359 --> 01:27:23.760
Jeremiah, all right, Shery, go ahead.

1389
01:27:25.000 --> 01:27:25.119
Hi.

1390
01:27:25.359 --> 01:27:29.079
I'm Sherry and I'm from Searching for Sasquatch. I am

1391
01:27:30.000 --> 01:27:35.560
an investigator forum and I do the film. And I

1392
01:27:36.119 --> 01:27:40.760
went up to Oregon from the twenty first and Chad

1393
01:27:41.039 --> 01:27:45.880
and Gwendolyn and Jason went up this one hill and went.

1394
01:27:45.760 --> 01:27:48.319
For a walk out in the woods. And I was

1395
01:27:48.600 --> 01:27:53.600
on the road with Steve and you and.

1396
01:27:56.960 --> 01:28:01.560
Priscilla was sleeping in the car, and I got bored talking,

1397
01:28:01.680 --> 01:28:03.520
so I went for a walk and I ended up

1398
01:28:03.560 --> 01:28:06.640
where they went up in the hill, and I was

1399
01:28:06.800 --> 01:28:09.600
just walking and all of a sudden, I hear Sherry,

1400
01:28:11.600 --> 01:28:15.520
and I'm like Gwendolene, and nobody's answer me. So I

1401
01:28:15.600 --> 01:28:19.239
started talking to it and never answered back. So I

1402
01:28:19.319 --> 01:28:21.560
went back and I told you guys that I heard

1403
01:28:21.600 --> 01:28:26.239
my name and ended up that was the same hill

1404
01:28:26.600 --> 01:28:30.199
that the three of them went up. And when Jason

1405
01:28:30.319 --> 01:28:32.720
was out in the woods, he heard talking out there.

1406
01:28:34.039 --> 01:28:37.439
He did. Yes, Oh he didn't tell me about that.

1407
01:28:38.600 --> 01:28:41.920
Yeah, he said, oh I heard from talking out there too, Yeah.

1408
01:28:42.199 --> 01:28:46.359
Okay, interesting how far away from the meadow area was

1409
01:28:46.439 --> 01:28:47.600
this where you heard the voice?

1410
01:28:48.600 --> 01:28:52.319
I don't know how far, maybe half a mile, okay, yep,

1411
01:28:53.119 --> 01:28:58.680
so it was in between the meadow and the gotcha where.

1412
01:28:58.640 --> 01:29:01.279
We were about halfway. I was a little freaked out, actually,

1413
01:29:01.279 --> 01:29:03.720
I remember that. I was like, I didn't sign up

1414
01:29:03.760 --> 01:29:05.159
for voices coming out of the woods.

1415
01:29:05.239 --> 01:29:10.199
But yeah, I'm not going back. I asked you guys

1416
01:29:10.239 --> 01:29:13.640
to go back, and I don't do with those yeahs.

1417
01:29:15.600 --> 01:29:19.479
After the events of the after the events of the festival,

1418
01:29:20.119 --> 01:29:24.279
on the twenty third, which is a Tuesday, Jason and

1419
01:29:24.439 --> 01:29:27.600
Chad had a camp out up in the Oak Hole area.

1420
01:29:28.119 --> 01:29:30.479
I was able to sit down with Jason and then

1421
01:29:30.600 --> 01:29:36.359
Chad separately virtually and get their thoughts about what happened

1422
01:29:36.479 --> 01:29:42.279
when they were up there doing a camp out by themselves,

1423
01:29:42.920 --> 01:29:43.840
if anything happened.

1424
01:29:44.720 --> 01:29:48.640
My name is Jason Kensey. I am an animal expert.

1425
01:29:50.119 --> 01:29:56.000
I am a bigfoot and encrypted researcher, and I'm also

1426
01:29:56.079 --> 01:30:05.760
a filmmaker. And there's is what happened in Oakridge going

1427
01:30:05.880 --> 01:30:10.600
over into the meadow where there has been people being

1428
01:30:10.680 --> 01:30:19.039
bored at and eyeshine being seen. So on Tuesday, July

1429
01:30:19.279 --> 01:30:25.760
twenty third, Chad Dateman and I. We traveled up into

1430
01:30:25.840 --> 01:30:30.880
this area. We could see smoke from the fires, the

1431
01:30:31.000 --> 01:30:34.880
wildfires that were burning all around us. The largest wildfire

1432
01:30:35.039 --> 01:30:37.920
in the United States burning not too far from us.

1433
01:30:38.560 --> 01:30:42.239
It is stop us big, so society will be right back.

1434
01:30:42.319 --> 01:31:03.399
After these messages, we drove into this meadow where people

1435
01:31:03.720 --> 01:31:08.920
had these sightings, not just audio, but they have.

1436
01:31:10.640 --> 01:31:13.600
Actual class A sidings where they actually see the creatures.

1437
01:31:15.239 --> 01:31:20.520
And it started like any you know, any ordinary camping

1438
01:31:21.479 --> 01:31:27.760
and exploring went into this really nice meadow area was

1439
01:31:27.880 --> 01:31:32.399
covered with wildflowers. It was quite pretty and we were

1440
01:31:32.479 --> 01:31:39.520
surrounded by thousands of acres of forest all around us.

1441
01:31:41.800 --> 01:31:48.239
We put out banana and some doughnuts right behind our tent,

1442
01:31:49.720 --> 01:31:54.680
hoping that in the night these creatures would come walking up.

1443
01:31:55.199 --> 01:32:01.039
And I was very excited hoping that if we could

1444
01:32:01.119 --> 01:32:06.920
hear them coming around. So as the sun was setting,

1445
01:32:09.560 --> 01:32:13.079
I put out my camera gear and we got ready

1446
01:32:14.520 --> 01:32:18.920
and when the darkness hit and after, you know, nothing

1447
01:32:19.039 --> 01:32:21.560
happening for a while. There was a couple of birds

1448
01:32:21.640 --> 01:32:24.800
that kind of went off in the darkness, which I

1449
01:32:24.840 --> 01:32:28.439
always find odd because easy birds are sleeping and they

1450
01:32:28.560 --> 01:32:33.720
usually squawk if you know, something comes around to disturb them.

1451
01:32:34.600 --> 01:32:37.039
So we decided to go for a little walk in

1452
01:32:37.159 --> 01:32:41.640
the darkness of the forest, leaving our tents by themselves.

1453
01:32:43.239 --> 01:32:45.760
And as we walked in the darkness and we looked around,

1454
01:32:45.840 --> 01:32:52.399
we saw this massive tree, like a structure where the

1455
01:32:52.520 --> 01:32:55.960
tree was kind of pushed over. Obviously it could have

1456
01:32:56.039 --> 01:33:01.119
been just snowload. Went up to it and we looked

1457
01:33:01.159 --> 01:33:04.439
at it, and it looked like, you know, you could

1458
01:33:04.479 --> 01:33:07.760
see that something could be sleeping under it because it

1459
01:33:07.920 --> 01:33:11.560
was still live. The tree was still live, and you

1460
01:33:11.640 --> 01:33:15.520
could see that the way that the branches were lying down,

1461
01:33:16.359 --> 01:33:20.239
you could see that something had been lying there. And

1462
01:33:20.359 --> 01:33:23.479
after you know, looking around some more and we really didn't,

1463
01:33:24.000 --> 01:33:27.920
you know, see anything or find anything. And we went

1464
01:33:28.000 --> 01:33:32.920
back to camp that evening. We went to bed about

1465
01:33:34.359 --> 01:33:37.760
I won't say, maybe one in the morning. And up

1466
01:33:37.800 --> 01:33:40.920
to that moment there wasn't much that went on in

1467
01:33:41.039 --> 01:33:44.319
the night. While we were sleeping. I did get woken

1468
01:33:44.399 --> 01:33:49.159
up by something walking around the tent. It wasn't too

1469
01:33:49.239 --> 01:33:53.359
close to the tent, it was into the forest. Now,

1470
01:33:54.159 --> 01:33:56.560
I did listen to it for a little bit walk around,

1471
01:33:57.239 --> 01:33:59.399
and so I got up and I went over and

1472
01:33:59.479 --> 01:34:03.399
I I peeked out of the tent. We had a

1473
01:34:03.520 --> 01:34:08.800
tent that we had these giant windows, and we didn't

1474
01:34:08.840 --> 01:34:13.239
have anything, no car for nothing, covering the tent, so

1475
01:34:13.920 --> 01:34:16.840
I could just see right out as long as I

1476
01:34:16.920 --> 01:34:20.319
put the light right up to the screen. And I

1477
01:34:20.399 --> 01:34:25.880
didn't see anything. I definitely could hear something walking. So

1478
01:34:26.079 --> 01:34:31.680
in the morning we woke up, it was early, maybe

1479
01:34:31.720 --> 01:34:37.680
about seven am, and as we stood there just picking

1480
01:34:37.720 --> 01:34:41.600
in all the beauty around us, there was a roar

1481
01:34:42.119 --> 01:34:46.039
that came out from the forest. It was quite far away,

1482
01:34:47.920 --> 01:34:52.520
but it was definitely a roar of something. I would

1483
01:34:52.520 --> 01:34:57.199
say it's probably about two miles away. I wouldn't know,

1484
01:34:57.640 --> 01:34:59.960
and not one hundred percent because I didn't have mentioned tape,

1485
01:35:00.800 --> 01:35:02.840
but I know it wasn't too close to the camp

1486
01:35:02.960 --> 01:35:05.720
and you could barely hear it. We almost missed it

1487
01:35:06.520 --> 01:35:10.039
just at that moment we had stopped. Sadly, I didn't

1488
01:35:10.039 --> 01:35:13.039
have my camera rolling, and if I did, it probably

1489
01:35:13.039 --> 01:35:16.720
wouldn't have picked it up. But it did roar twice,

1490
01:35:19.239 --> 01:35:22.840
and it was pretty cruel. I was hoping that it

1491
01:35:22.960 --> 01:35:25.840
was going to move closer to where we were. I

1492
01:35:26.000 --> 01:35:28.560
was very shocked that a lot of the sightings and

1493
01:35:28.640 --> 01:35:31.560
a lot of the roars that people have been hearing

1494
01:35:32.119 --> 01:35:38.119
have been in broad daylight, like within one hundred feet

1495
01:35:38.239 --> 01:35:43.159
in the forest, roaring at them. Now, I'm not saying

1496
01:35:43.239 --> 01:35:48.600
that what roared that day that morning was a big foot,

1497
01:35:49.479 --> 01:35:52.680
but it was kind of neat to hear it. And

1498
01:35:52.840 --> 01:35:56.399
then after a couple hours of nothing else happening, we

1499
01:35:56.560 --> 01:36:00.680
basically just jumped into the truck and we drove back

1500
01:36:00.760 --> 01:36:02.039
to base camp.

1501
01:36:02.359 --> 01:36:05.640
How loud were the footsteps that were around your tent?

1502
01:36:07.399 --> 01:36:12.880
Well, to be honest, I it was probably a smaller animal.

1503
01:36:13.720 --> 01:36:16.000
There's something you can you can kind of hear when

1504
01:36:16.279 --> 01:36:20.680
when something heavy is walking And I was lying there

1505
01:36:20.720 --> 01:36:23.119
and you know, just looking up the ceiling of the

1506
01:36:23.239 --> 01:36:30.600
tent listening to something, which is you know, breaking twigs

1507
01:36:30.680 --> 01:36:38.359
and breaking stuff behind the tent. The doughnuts were still there,

1508
01:36:38.880 --> 01:36:41.479
and same with the banana. The banana was still there.

1509
01:36:42.640 --> 01:36:46.079
So whatever it was walking around it definitely wasn't interested

1510
01:36:46.239 --> 01:36:49.079
in the yumminess that was out there on the branches.

1511
01:36:50.600 --> 01:36:55.520
Absolutely, did you have any visceral reaction to when you

1512
01:36:55.720 --> 01:36:58.079
heard that role or is that similar to things you've

1513
01:36:58.119 --> 01:36:58.640
heard before?

1514
01:37:01.600 --> 01:37:06.079
Is similar to what I've heard before. The things I've

1515
01:37:06.119 --> 01:37:10.119
heard before have been much closer and much louder, but

1516
01:37:10.359 --> 01:37:15.399
definitely was. It's interesting how a lot of the sightings

1517
01:37:15.479 --> 01:37:20.079
and whatnot have been going on during broad daylight. I've

1518
01:37:20.159 --> 01:37:25.800
interviewed hundreds of people on their encounters with seeing Bigfoot

1519
01:37:25.960 --> 01:37:29.960
or having experiences with Bigfoot, and I would say ninety

1520
01:37:30.000 --> 01:37:33.720
percent of the time, it's always at night, either right

1521
01:37:35.000 --> 01:37:38.439
before sunset or just after sunset, or in the middle

1522
01:37:38.439 --> 01:37:42.000
of the night. So it's interesting how these creatures are

1523
01:37:42.239 --> 01:37:46.680
moving around and there's a lot of activity in broad daylight,

1524
01:37:47.279 --> 01:37:51.279
which I believe maybe because the fires were going on,

1525
01:37:51.439 --> 01:37:54.560
because we could see smoke, like we could actually see

1526
01:37:54.640 --> 01:37:58.119
billowing smoke from the fires, like we were not far away.

1527
01:38:00.560 --> 01:38:03.039
Wow, that's different than when I was up there. So

1528
01:38:03.920 --> 01:38:07.159
that's that's pretty scary stuff. You could actually see the

1529
01:38:07.239 --> 01:38:11.399
smoke clear, well not clear, but you see billowing. That's wild.

1530
01:38:12.319 --> 01:38:16.880
Yeah, yeah, we were close. It was it's it was

1531
01:38:17.039 --> 01:38:19.720
I don't know now, but then it was the biggest

1532
01:38:19.760 --> 01:38:24.760
walledfire in the United States, so that was that was

1533
01:38:24.840 --> 01:38:28.399
pretty pretty crazy. You know, we could have we could

1534
01:38:28.439 --> 01:38:31.039
have turned sideways quite fast in the middle of the night.

1535
01:38:31.239 --> 01:38:33.760
The bird noise that you heard in the dark, do

1536
01:38:33.840 --> 01:38:38.199
you remember any specifics about was it a short noise

1537
01:38:38.399 --> 01:38:40.600
or a longer noise or do you any remember any

1538
01:38:40.640 --> 01:38:41.479
specifics about that.

1539
01:38:43.279 --> 01:38:45.000
It was long? It was a longer noise.

1540
01:38:45.319 --> 01:38:46.840
Okay, so it was.

1541
01:38:48.279 --> 01:38:51.199
To be honest, I really haven't heard that bird sound before,

1542
01:38:52.720 --> 01:38:56.000
not like that it was. It actually sounded odd, And

1543
01:38:56.479 --> 01:38:59.359
now that I'm now that I'm thinking about it, we

1544
01:38:59.439 --> 01:39:01.800
actually heard it during the day too, like in the morning,

1545
01:39:02.640 --> 01:39:06.319
right before the roar, we heard that sound again and

1546
01:39:06.399 --> 01:39:07.600
it went on a few times.

1547
01:39:09.039 --> 01:39:13.319
Yeah, so that lines up exactly with what happened. Yeah,

1548
01:39:13.399 --> 01:39:18.880
that sounds very familiar because Denise, you know, actually communicates

1549
01:39:18.960 --> 01:39:22.079
back and forth with the bird mimic sound in that area,

1550
01:39:22.479 --> 01:39:26.680
and it's just it's like a bird sound that's just

1551
01:39:26.800 --> 01:39:30.039
a little bit different than anything you've heard. And I

1552
01:39:30.079 --> 01:39:31.760
don't know if you were able to see that happen,

1553
01:39:31.840 --> 01:39:35.800
but it's a very very weird thing to watch just

1554
01:39:36.000 --> 01:39:39.159
her make the bird noise and then the whatever it

1555
01:39:39.239 --> 01:39:41.079
is in the woods go back and forth and back

1556
01:39:41.119 --> 01:39:44.119
and forth with like half a second between. And so

1557
01:39:44.279 --> 01:39:47.199
hopefully she's talked about that earlier in this episode.

1558
01:39:47.439 --> 01:39:51.520
So well, the funny thing is, I mean, I don't

1559
01:39:51.560 --> 01:39:54.920
know why I forgot about this but actually filmed.

1560
01:39:57.720 --> 01:39:57.840
Us.

1561
01:39:59.159 --> 01:40:03.600
I think Chat and I we were We were like,

1562
01:40:03.800 --> 01:40:07.439
I was squawking back and forth to this bird and

1563
01:40:07.560 --> 01:40:11.239
it was answering me back and forth. And then I

1564
01:40:11.319 --> 01:40:15.640
did something. I think I howled or something, and it stopped.

1565
01:40:16.199 --> 01:40:19.399
And I turned to Chat and he said I must

1566
01:40:19.479 --> 01:40:24.520
have told it to offer something. It totally stopped. But

1567
01:40:24.640 --> 01:40:26.720
I do remember, I think I filmed it. I have

1568
01:40:26.800 --> 01:40:28.800
to go back and look at the footage to see

1569
01:40:28.840 --> 01:40:32.720
you bike, but I do remember talking, or at least communicating.

1570
01:40:33.159 --> 01:40:35.399
I was being silly back and forth, and it was

1571
01:40:35.479 --> 01:40:38.800
answering me back, and then I did something and it stopped.

1572
01:40:39.520 --> 01:40:41.720
But at she stopped, and I was like, oh, well,

1573
01:40:43.239 --> 01:40:44.039
that was interesting.

1574
01:40:44.319 --> 01:40:47.880
We had a similar situation happen on Sunday where Denise

1575
01:40:48.039 --> 01:40:51.279
was communicating back and forth and another individual from the

1576
01:40:51.359 --> 01:40:54.359
party started trying to do a different bird sound and

1577
01:40:54.479 --> 01:40:57.600
that cut things off entirely. It was very strange and

1578
01:40:58.319 --> 01:41:02.920
the thing I've already talked to you, and I'd love

1579
01:41:02.960 --> 01:41:06.760
to talk to you about. So you guys actually stayed overnight.

1580
01:41:07.479 --> 01:41:09.279
You tent camped in that area as well.

1581
01:41:09.880 --> 01:41:12.279
Yeah, we did a solo right where we got roared

1582
01:41:12.359 --> 01:41:17.199
at and right where I heard the thing whatever crashed

1583
01:41:17.239 --> 01:41:18.960
the woods. I didn't see it, so I'm going to

1584
01:41:19.000 --> 01:41:24.119
say what it was, but Dwayne said it was dark

1585
01:41:24.279 --> 01:41:28.159
and big three people heard it. Dwayne's the only one

1586
01:41:28.199 --> 01:41:33.159
that saw it. We camped right there and it was

1587
01:41:34.279 --> 01:41:38.840
really quiet. It was early quiet. But the next morning,

1588
01:41:40.279 --> 01:41:46.000
around ten am, there was one long roar, but it

1589
01:41:46.119 --> 01:41:49.640
was at a much further distance, but it was definitely clear.

1590
01:41:50.079 --> 01:41:53.119
It was the same thing that I heard, it was

1591
01:41:53.199 --> 01:41:57.720
just further away, and so, yeah, I heard it there.

1592
01:41:57.920 --> 01:42:01.119
What day again, was it that you had camped out

1593
01:42:01.159 --> 01:42:01.880
with Jason there?

1594
01:42:03.920 --> 01:42:11.560
So that would have been Jasonnesday. Jason left on Thursday, right,

1595
01:42:12.920 --> 01:42:16.439
Jason left on Tuesday. I think it was Tuesday, I

1596
01:42:16.600 --> 01:42:22.359
think so? Wait, No, Sunday was the last day of

1597
01:42:22.399 --> 01:42:26.319
the conference? Monday? No, Tuesday night, Yeah, because we didn't

1598
01:42:26.359 --> 01:42:30.439
camp out on Monday. We drove around and did other stuff.

1599
01:42:30.479 --> 01:42:33.720
It was Tuesday night we camped out, and then Sherry

1600
01:42:33.760 --> 01:42:37.000
and I camped out solo Wednesday night because Jason left

1601
01:42:37.039 --> 01:42:37.800
Wednesday morning.

1602
01:42:41.800 --> 01:42:46.279
At any point, did you hear anything so besides vocalizations,

1603
01:42:46.319 --> 01:42:49.880
did you hear anything else weird in the woods when

1604
01:42:49.920 --> 01:42:50.800
you were camping out there?

1605
01:42:52.399 --> 01:42:57.399
We'd hear break or crack here and there, but really

1606
01:42:57.760 --> 01:43:02.600
not a whole lot other than the day with Duayanne.

1607
01:43:03.239 --> 01:43:05.560
With the one, we could hear really loud move and

1608
01:43:06.479 --> 01:43:10.960
we'd hear it every multiple seconds and break another branch

1609
01:43:11.600 --> 01:43:17.359
or step on something. Nothing that was intimidating.

1610
01:43:18.239 --> 01:43:25.279
Absolutely, You've been involved with many, many different research expeditions.

1611
01:43:26.640 --> 01:43:29.560
Do you feel like there is something going on in

1612
01:43:29.680 --> 01:43:34.159
that area or it is just a group of people

1613
01:43:34.399 --> 01:43:38.319
that are amped up? And I already know what I

1614
01:43:38.359 --> 01:43:40.600
would say, but I'm just curious what you're going to say.

1615
01:43:41.279 --> 01:43:46.000
I have never experienced so much activity in such a

1616
01:43:46.239 --> 01:43:49.720
short period of time in my life, and I've experienced

1617
01:43:49.720 --> 01:43:56.720
a lot of activity habituating groups in my area that so, no,

1618
01:43:57.680 --> 01:44:01.720
there was something. I almost wonder if the fires were

1619
01:44:03.399 --> 01:44:07.039
I don't know. But then all the reports, Jeremiah, all

1620
01:44:07.119 --> 01:44:10.000
the reports in the areas that we were put where

1621
01:44:10.159 --> 01:44:14.640
people say were a lot hunters. I mean, I'm told

1622
01:44:14.720 --> 01:44:18.039
there's people that won't hunt in this area anymore. And

1623
01:44:18.239 --> 01:44:20.800
the area that we did all this research is like

1624
01:44:20.920 --> 01:44:25.840
a one square mile circle, and so I think there

1625
01:44:26.000 --> 01:44:29.239
is something there. I don't know if the fires irritated

1626
01:44:29.319 --> 01:44:32.920
them or whatnot. Or just us being there did, But

1627
01:44:33.039 --> 01:44:38.359
I do know after the second night things did slow down,

1628
01:44:39.000 --> 01:44:40.239
but they didn't totally stop.

1629
01:44:40.720 --> 01:44:45.119
Sure, I've made the mistake of telling some people that

1630
01:44:45.239 --> 01:44:48.560
are not Bigfoot people about what I experienced up there

1631
01:44:48.640 --> 01:44:51.560
on Thursday, and they absolutely think that I'm crazy now.

1632
01:44:51.800 --> 01:44:56.079
And it's just the stuff that happened during that week

1633
01:44:56.319 --> 01:45:00.560
in that area was a special kind of intense that

1634
01:45:00.640 --> 01:45:04.319
I've never experienced before. It's very, very weird up in

1635
01:45:04.399 --> 01:45:05.840
that area. One hundred percent.

1636
01:45:09.439 --> 01:45:13.000
I'm still working for I'm looking forward to next year.

1637
01:45:13.479 --> 01:45:17.079
I've already committed to go back to Yeah, I told Percilla, Yeah,

1638
01:45:17.079 --> 01:45:22.079
I will definitely be back there. No, Yeah, I talked

1639
01:45:22.079 --> 01:45:24.239
to everyone I need to and I'll be there one

1640
01:45:24.279 --> 01:45:27.800
hundred percent. I would not miss it. Hopefully I'll be

1641
01:45:27.840 --> 01:45:31.560
wearing pants not shorts though, so no reactions this time.

1642
01:45:32.159 --> 01:45:34.880
Big for Society will be right back. After these messages,

1643
01:45:53.239 --> 01:45:57.000
on Wednesday the twenty fourth, Sherry and Chad were able

1644
01:45:57.039 --> 01:46:00.359
to also have a overnight camp out in the same area.

1645
01:46:00.800 --> 01:46:05.800
What follows is a quick interview with Sherry telling about

1646
01:46:06.000 --> 01:46:10.119
what happened on the overnight of Wednesday the twenty fourth.

1647
01:46:11.399 --> 01:46:15.680
On the Wednesday, the twenty fourth, we went up by

1648
01:46:15.760 --> 01:46:20.039
the field again and camped out and Chad and I

1649
01:46:21.039 --> 01:46:24.159
it was about eleven o'clock and we played music really

1650
01:46:24.239 --> 01:46:27.680
really loud, and we're dancing on the road trying to

1651
01:46:27.720 --> 01:46:30.560
get attention, and then we just went to bed and

1652
01:46:32.199 --> 01:46:34.920
we didn't really get anything that night without Maybe that

1653
01:46:34.960 --> 01:46:39.000
would cause get some attention, but I guess they were

1654
01:46:39.199 --> 01:46:39.880
fed up with us.

1655
01:46:39.960 --> 01:46:40.279
I don't know.

1656
01:46:43.159 --> 01:46:46.439
Were the fires pretty bad up there at that time?

1657
01:46:48.000 --> 01:46:50.560
Uh no, the fire the smoke was not as bad

1658
01:46:50.720 --> 01:46:54.119
that night during the conference that was horrible.

1659
01:46:54.359 --> 01:46:57.199
Yeah, but yeah, it was right. It wasn't that bad

1660
01:46:57.279 --> 01:46:59.960
up there. I still don't have my voice back though.

1661
01:47:00.760 --> 01:47:04.079
Yeah, I'm kind of there too. What kind of music

1662
01:47:04.159 --> 01:47:04.920
were you playing up there?

1663
01:47:06.399 --> 01:47:10.640
Oh, Chad's music eighties rock, nice, annoying, annoying music.

1664
01:47:12.279 --> 01:47:13.600
I guess they weren't paying of it.

1665
01:47:14.880 --> 01:47:15.800
No, we'll see.

1666
01:47:15.920 --> 01:47:19.279
Last time we did that somewhere we got attention from

1667
01:47:19.520 --> 01:47:20.920
and we got stuff thrown at us.

1668
01:47:20.960 --> 01:47:23.039
So I don't do it again. But it wasn't there.

1669
01:47:23.039 --> 01:47:24.439
It was up in Michigan. Looked at that.

1670
01:47:26.359 --> 01:47:28.399
I talked to Jason the other day. He had said

1671
01:47:28.520 --> 01:47:32.399
that there when they went up, which would have been

1672
01:47:32.399 --> 01:47:35.960
the night before they had put out some things around

1673
01:47:36.039 --> 01:47:39.800
the tent. Did you guys put out anything at all?

1674
01:47:41.199 --> 01:47:42.640
Uh, we didn't put anything.

1675
01:47:42.760 --> 01:47:46.199
The banana was still there, and when they they put

1676
01:47:46.359 --> 01:47:49.119
the doughnuts out and that was still there.

1677
01:47:49.079 --> 01:47:54.560
Too, untouched. Yeah, okay, did you hear any weird birds?

1678
01:47:55.199 --> 01:47:56.039
At night? Up there?

1679
01:47:57.319 --> 01:47:58.119
We had whistling?

1680
01:47:59.600 --> 01:48:05.520
Okay, all right, tell me about the whistling, just a you.

1681
01:48:05.560 --> 01:48:08.960
Know, a whistle in the middle of the night. You

1682
01:48:09.039 --> 01:48:09.680
know that's it.

1683
01:48:10.720 --> 01:48:13.920
Really Do you remember what time of night approximately there was?

1684
01:48:15.239 --> 01:48:18.319
Could have been out two o'clock, because yeah, I had

1685
01:48:18.319 --> 01:48:21.600
to go pet gotcha and I went up there and

1686
01:48:21.760 --> 01:48:22.520
I got a whistle.

1687
01:48:23.359 --> 01:48:23.960
It was loud.

1688
01:48:24.119 --> 01:48:28.279
You were out there by yourself to relieve yourself and

1689
01:48:28.680 --> 01:48:33.760
something whistled at you from the woods. Right, How did

1690
01:48:33.840 --> 01:48:34.479
that make you feel?

1691
01:48:38.279 --> 01:48:38.800
It was cool?

1692
01:48:39.159 --> 01:48:41.279
Or you're like whatever? You know, it's not the craziest

1693
01:48:41.279 --> 01:48:42.119
thing I've experienced.

1694
01:48:42.279 --> 01:48:42.479
Yeah.

1695
01:48:43.279 --> 01:48:47.479
Yeah, I've had screens at me in that whistles. I'm

1696
01:48:47.560 --> 01:48:49.239
just saying, hey, how are you doing?

1697
01:48:49.600 --> 01:48:53.279
Sure? Yeah, you're kind of whatever about it. You said

1698
01:48:53.319 --> 01:48:55.720
it was it was pretty loud. Can you describe how

1699
01:48:55.800 --> 01:48:56.279
loud it was?

1700
01:49:00.039 --> 01:49:01.880
Well, it was off in the woods and I heard it.

1701
01:49:03.119 --> 01:49:06.279
It was off by the field back there, and.

1702
01:49:08.680 --> 01:49:09.600
It was proving a lot.

1703
01:49:09.760 --> 01:49:09.960
It was.

1704
01:49:10.680 --> 01:49:12.359
It was like somebody was right by me and doing

1705
01:49:12.439 --> 01:49:15.239
it kind of. That's how lowed it was. It got

1706
01:49:15.319 --> 01:49:18.760
that but it you know, it was far away, but

1707
01:49:19.079 --> 01:49:20.359
I could hear that clearly.

1708
01:49:21.720 --> 01:49:25.600
So were you you were camped in the field though,

1709
01:49:25.840 --> 01:49:26.880
in the meadow? Correct?

1710
01:49:28.119 --> 01:49:31.600
No, No, we're planting. We were on the opposite side,

1711
01:49:32.439 --> 01:49:37.840
in another field. It was through the woods on the

1712
01:49:37.920 --> 01:49:40.479
other side. It was flattered over there, So that's.

1713
01:49:40.319 --> 01:49:43.520
Where we went. We were across across we were were

1714
01:49:45.520 --> 01:49:46.800
Ronnie was putting food up.

1715
01:49:47.039 --> 01:49:50.520
Oh, so you were tent camping over by where people

1716
01:49:50.560 --> 01:49:54.640
would hang out in nylon chairs and put up bananas

1717
01:49:54.680 --> 01:49:58.640
in the tree and stuff. Right, That's funny because I

1718
01:49:58.680 --> 01:50:00.960
remember talking to people. I was like, they're probably going

1719
01:50:01.000 --> 01:50:02.720
to be over here because there's no way you could

1720
01:50:02.720 --> 01:50:04.840
tent camp in that meadow because it's all torn up

1721
01:50:05.000 --> 01:50:11.760
and there's lots of holes. Yeah, okay, interesting. Did you

1722
01:50:11.920 --> 01:50:16.840
experience anything else that night That may not have seemed

1723
01:50:16.880 --> 01:50:19.079
like a big deal to you, but still you experienced it.

1724
01:50:20.560 --> 01:50:21.600
No, that was it.

1725
01:50:22.199 --> 01:50:24.840
And we got up about noon and we left because

1726
01:50:24.840 --> 01:50:26.159
we had to go catch.

1727
01:50:26.039 --> 01:50:32.800
The plane, gotcha. No knocks, no vocalizations know anything with that? No, okay,

1728
01:50:32.880 --> 01:50:36.840
not that I heard perfect. Were there any points up

1729
01:50:36.880 --> 01:50:40.439
there when it got extremely quiet or was it just

1730
01:50:40.600 --> 01:50:42.079
normal for it?

1731
01:50:42.119 --> 01:50:44.800
It was quiet the whole time. That's why the whistle

1732
01:50:44.920 --> 01:50:48.119
was so out there, it was there was no sound.

1733
01:50:48.880 --> 01:50:51.439
Can you explain what the quiet was like up there?

1734
01:50:56.840 --> 01:51:01.159
I don't know, you know, how, something's just there's no birds,

1735
01:51:01.359 --> 01:51:05.600
no frogs, no no bugs, and there's just no sound.

1736
01:51:06.359 --> 01:51:07.520
It's that kind of eerie.

1737
01:51:09.319 --> 01:51:12.439
But I like it, Okay, Yeah, I mean I experienced

1738
01:51:12.479 --> 01:51:14.319
it too up there, and that was the first time

1739
01:51:14.359 --> 01:51:16.319
I experienced it, and it was a little off putting

1740
01:51:16.359 --> 01:51:18.520
because there was a new one for me, and I

1741
01:51:18.640 --> 01:51:21.399
was like, man, it is so quiet that it is

1742
01:51:21.520 --> 01:51:25.159
weird hearing myself think, and it's just overwhelming. But I

1743
01:51:25.279 --> 01:51:27.439
just wanted to see you kind of experienced the same

1744
01:51:27.520 --> 01:51:34.760
thing up there. But yeah, okay, last question, so the

1745
01:51:34.840 --> 01:51:39.159
bananas when you when you left the area, the bananas

1746
01:51:39.199 --> 01:51:42.319
were still untouched from the time when Chad and Jason

1747
01:51:42.399 --> 01:51:48.079
put them out right, Okay, gotcha? Very interesting? All right, Well, Scher,

1748
01:51:48.279 --> 01:51:51.920
thank you for sharing about what you experienced up in

1749
01:51:52.239 --> 01:51:54.119
the woods of that area.

1750
01:51:54.479 --> 01:51:59.399
Over that week, Jerry Barsha and I was up in

1751
01:51:59.520 --> 01:52:04.479
Oregon and we were on Mile Meyerk for two and

1752
01:52:05.000 --> 01:52:06.720
we pulled. We pulled up on the side of the

1753
01:52:06.840 --> 01:52:14.119
road and we walked down the guard rail and Jason

1754
01:52:14.239 --> 01:52:17.560
found a footprint and we're like, all right, yeah, So

1755
01:52:17.920 --> 01:52:21.760
I casted it, and then I told Jason go walk

1756
01:52:21.840 --> 01:52:23.840
down the rest of the way all by yourself so

1757
01:52:23.920 --> 01:52:26.680
you don't contaminate anymore. Because we had a few people

1758
01:52:26.760 --> 01:52:28.880
with us and they're trampling stuff. We had to guard it,

1759
01:52:29.920 --> 01:52:34.119
especially little kids. So he went down there and he

1760
01:52:34.159 --> 01:52:40.640
found another print. So Chad did that one, and I

1761
01:52:40.720 --> 01:52:44.439
don't know if it was kind of resembled a bear maybe,

1762
01:52:44.680 --> 01:52:48.520
but I don't know, but that one he did that one,

1763
01:52:49.319 --> 01:52:53.920
and then we found handprints on the railing. I took

1764
01:52:54.039 --> 01:52:59.800
pictures of that, and then I went We left for

1765
01:53:00.079 --> 01:53:02.680
to dry and did other things. I went and got

1766
01:53:02.760 --> 01:53:06.960
a tattoo and they went back later in the day

1767
01:53:07.560 --> 01:53:07.920
at night.

1768
01:53:08.960 --> 01:53:14.479
The footprint that you casted, do you remember any details

1769
01:53:14.520 --> 01:53:17.880
about it that were the ordinary or was it pretty straightforward?

1770
01:53:18.560 --> 01:53:22.239
The track had a big, really big toe. You could

1771
01:53:22.279 --> 01:53:25.680
see the details of the other toes in it it

1772
01:53:25.880 --> 01:53:28.760
was and it was I think Jason measured it.

1773
01:53:28.920 --> 01:53:29.479
What do you say?

1774
01:53:29.520 --> 01:53:35.760
It was fourteen inches? So yeah, And I didn't get

1775
01:53:35.800 --> 01:53:38.279
to see it after it got got picked up.

1776
01:53:38.520 --> 01:53:41.600
Were you involved in it all with retrieving the track

1777
01:53:41.680 --> 01:53:43.199
cast and what happened after that?

1778
01:53:43.760 --> 01:53:45.880
No, No, I went to the I got it.

1779
01:53:45.920 --> 01:53:48.720
I was getting my tattoo done, okay, And they went

1780
01:53:48.840 --> 01:53:52.279
back to get it the print and that one was

1781
01:53:52.319 --> 01:53:56.239
gone that Chad did, Gotchad.

1782
01:53:55.000 --> 01:53:58.640
The the other one was farther down right, so they didn't.

1783
01:53:58.880 --> 01:54:00.479
Whoever did it didn't see that one.

1784
01:54:01.079 --> 01:54:02.840
Exactly. Did your tattoo come out?

1785
01:54:02.880 --> 01:54:03.039
Good?

1786
01:54:04.399 --> 01:54:06.399
I love it. Let's speak for it with freez.

1787
01:54:06.880 --> 01:54:07.239
No way.

1788
01:54:07.640 --> 01:54:08.439
Where'd you get it at?

1789
01:54:08.720 --> 01:54:09.479
Was in town?

1790
01:54:09.880 --> 01:54:11.600
Awesome? Well sherif thank you?

1791
01:54:12.880 --> 01:54:15.680
Oh go ahead, yep, No, I don't know nothing.

1792
01:54:17.560 --> 01:54:22.439
You're good. Thank you so much for Sharon what you

1793
01:54:22.640 --> 01:54:27.359
experienced up there. Our last interview will be with Priscilla

1794
01:54:27.560 --> 01:54:33.760
rosemand Davidson, who spends a few minutes talking about what

1795
01:54:34.000 --> 01:54:42.520
she experienced during the events of twenty twenty four Sasquatch Summerfest. Enjoy. So, Prisilla,

1796
01:54:42.680 --> 01:54:47.880
were there any other things you were involved with or

1797
01:54:48.000 --> 01:54:51.600
times you were up in the oak Hoole area during

1798
01:54:53.159 --> 01:54:56.960
Sasquatch Summer Fest twoenty twenty four that things happened.

1799
01:54:57.880 --> 01:55:00.399
So we had on out.

1800
01:55:00.600 --> 01:55:05.880
We had two vehicles going there and they were filled.

1801
01:55:06.960 --> 01:55:12.520
I think we had all of the searching for Sasquatch crew, myself,

1802
01:55:12.680 --> 01:55:18.600
my husband, my friend Susie who was driving the other vehicle.

1803
01:55:21.079 --> 01:55:24.079
I don't recall who all was there, but I know

1804
01:55:26.000 --> 01:55:27.760
I think were you there.

1805
01:55:29.199 --> 01:55:31.319
It was the night when they got almost got lost, right.

1806
01:55:31.800 --> 01:55:34.119
Yes, yeah, and so Sherry.

1807
01:55:35.279 --> 01:55:38.760
We were at the the end of the road and

1808
01:55:39.479 --> 01:55:44.239
the guys and Sherry and when they got out, and

1809
01:55:45.520 --> 01:55:53.840
Cherry had heard something called her name, which was she

1810
01:55:54.000 --> 01:55:55.800
was kind of terrified when she got back to the car,

1811
01:55:56.199 --> 01:55:58.640
I mean excited, you know, but she's like.

1812
01:55:59.359 --> 01:56:00.720
Is that my name had?

1813
01:56:00.800 --> 01:56:06.520
My name said Cherry? But she was she was super

1814
01:56:07.079 --> 01:56:10.600
excited about that. She's like, no, my name.

1815
01:56:12.119 --> 01:56:19.800
Absolutely. And then were you involved with a trip that

1816
01:56:20.039 --> 01:56:27.000
went to an abandoned mine area in the region of

1817
01:56:27.439 --> 01:56:31.760
Oakridge during that time? What was that another.

1818
01:56:32.880 --> 01:56:36.640
The Bohemian mines. So we went we went up to

1819
01:56:36.800 --> 01:56:40.520
the Bohemia mines.

1820
01:56:40.840 --> 01:56:40.960
Uh.

1821
01:56:41.560 --> 01:56:44.439
We wanted to just show them the area. And there's

1822
01:56:44.520 --> 01:56:49.479
a ghost town in there east of Cottage Grove, and.

1823
01:56:52.560 --> 01:56:54.960
But I don't.

1824
01:56:56.640 --> 01:57:01.239
I don't remember any anything happening. If there was there

1825
01:57:01.359 --> 01:57:04.760
was an experience or something, I wasn't a part of it.

1826
01:57:07.840 --> 01:57:11.199
I may be in the car or I don't know,

1827
01:57:11.279 --> 01:57:14.039
but I don't remember anything happening at the caves.

1828
01:57:15.079 --> 01:57:20.279
That's extremely interesting. There was actually and this is just

1829
01:57:20.359 --> 01:57:24.640
off to the side, but I had interviewed Gwendolyn Guthrie.

1830
01:57:25.199 --> 01:57:28.800
I don't know if you remember her when when they

1831
01:57:28.880 --> 01:57:32.319
were up there, she had a sighting when she was

1832
01:57:32.399 --> 01:57:35.119
walking out on the road.

1833
01:57:35.800 --> 01:57:41.920
Yes, okay, yeah, we weren't out a cave when that happened.

1834
01:57:43.319 --> 01:57:46.720
So what there was there was a deer and then

1835
01:57:46.800 --> 01:57:52.199
there was a baby deer and they got separated, the

1836
01:57:52.279 --> 01:57:53.079
mama and the baby.

1837
01:57:54.199 --> 01:57:57.840
So I was, you know, me and Glenn were.

1838
01:57:57.760 --> 01:58:00.880
Like yelling at Steve to slow down and let the

1839
01:58:00.920 --> 01:58:03.680
baby get back with its mom, you know, and like

1840
01:58:04.439 --> 01:58:07.239
the pace that he had, like he was He's like, no,

1841
01:58:07.560 --> 01:58:10.319
the deer is going to go, it will find his mom,

1842
01:58:11.000 --> 01:58:11.600
It'll be okay.

1843
01:58:13.199 --> 01:58:16.000
And then it didn't. It just kept traveling down.

1844
01:58:15.800 --> 01:58:16.880
The road, you know.

1845
01:58:17.840 --> 01:58:20.600
And then so when it's like no, just I'm getting out.

1846
01:58:20.600 --> 01:58:23.039
I'm getting out I'm going to help guide the baby

1847
01:58:23.159 --> 01:58:23.920
back to his mom.

1848
01:58:24.760 --> 01:58:26.079
And then so she.

1849
01:58:27.800 --> 01:58:30.680
She was outside the vehicle and Steve was like driving

1850
01:58:30.840 --> 01:58:36.600
really really slow, and then she's like, I'm so bad

1851
01:58:36.640 --> 01:58:40.000
at measuring distance, like one hundred.

1852
01:58:39.760 --> 01:58:41.640
Yards ahead of us, and.

1853
01:58:44.199 --> 01:58:44.800
And she.

1854
01:58:46.359 --> 01:58:48.720
She got totally scared from a.

1855
01:58:50.199 --> 01:58:54.640
Shadow that was very tall, like I mean, you know,

1856
01:58:54.640 --> 01:58:59.439
it was dark, and she's seen something move past in

1857
01:58:59.520 --> 01:59:04.079
front of her, and which she returned to the vehicle

1858
01:59:04.199 --> 01:59:08.439
after that because she she had ran into something that

1859
01:59:08.560 --> 01:59:14.159
was very large on two feet and tall, I mean

1860
01:59:14.239 --> 01:59:18.399
she she thinks it was probably around eight feet tall.

1861
01:59:19.800 --> 01:59:24.079
So I completely slipped my mind.

1862
01:59:24.640 --> 01:59:25.199
It was gone.

1863
01:59:27.640 --> 01:59:31.279
That's sometimes you know, you just need to lead someone

1864
01:59:31.359 --> 01:59:35.760
a little bit. Yeah, oh yeah, right, what that was

1865
01:59:35.800 --> 01:59:36.520
on Sunday?

1866
01:59:38.880 --> 01:59:39.319
I believe?

1867
01:59:39.359 --> 01:59:43.479
So yeah, was it uh morning or afternoon?

1868
01:59:44.720 --> 01:59:45.000
Okay?

1869
01:59:46.119 --> 01:59:50.199
My event was Friday, Saurday, Sunday. Sunday was not a

1870
01:59:50.239 --> 01:59:53.960
full day and festival, so it was Sunday night.

1871
01:59:54.600 --> 01:59:58.439
Okay. That's crazy. So pretty much at a similar time,

1872
01:59:58.479 --> 02:00:01.479
when you guys are experiencing that, that's when we were

1873
02:00:01.560 --> 02:00:04.720
having the events happen in ok.

1874
02:00:04.760 --> 02:00:05.600
Cool. With the.

1875
02:00:09.840 --> 02:00:13.279
Well, there's let's see. The big thing was the audio

1876
02:00:13.399 --> 02:00:17.199
being recorded and I couldn't move out of my chair

1877
02:00:17.359 --> 02:00:21.359
for five minutes and stuff like that. So yeah, that's

1878
02:00:21.399 --> 02:00:27.319
another thing right anyways, But oh, Alicia, just double check

1879
02:00:28.760 --> 02:00:32.920
at that point during the events of Sasquat Summer Fest

1880
02:00:32.960 --> 02:00:37.680
in July, did you have any interaction with anything weird

1881
02:00:39.399 --> 02:00:41.720
that you would want to mention or did all of

1882
02:00:41.840 --> 02:00:49.079
that happen after that whole experience In terms of.

1883
02:00:50.800 --> 02:00:55.159
The O coal location, I have out there yet, But

1884
02:00:55.279 --> 02:00:56.640
do you mean like other places too?

1885
02:00:57.760 --> 02:01:00.920
I guess more like you didn't have any like random

1886
02:01:00.960 --> 02:01:03.199
adventures where you're like, yeah, I went up a poor

1887
02:01:03.359 --> 02:01:06.840
service road and something weird happened, anything like that out here?

1888
02:01:07.840 --> 02:01:08.079
Yeah?

1889
02:01:09.560 --> 02:01:14.399
Okay, No, I was I think it was after the festival.

1890
02:01:14.840 --> 02:01:16.239
I was actually trying to get to.

1891
02:01:17.840 --> 02:01:21.760
The backside of Spirit was a Spirit Lake that you've

1892
02:01:21.840 --> 02:01:23.720
mentioned that I told you I wanted to check out.

1893
02:01:24.359 --> 02:01:26.079
Yeah, that would have been quite a travel for you,

1894
02:01:26.239 --> 02:01:28.039
but that I think that would have been the way.

1895
02:01:28.239 --> 02:01:32.239
Yeah, so well, but my navigation claimed almost that there

1896
02:01:32.359 --> 02:01:34.600
was like a trailhead to a back way to it

1897
02:01:34.720 --> 02:01:38.159
rather than going down to Waldo Wilderness area, that you

1898
02:01:38.239 --> 02:01:40.199
could get to it from Sam like the backside of

1899
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it from Sammon Creek Road, and I it basically brought

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me to like a cliff face and said that the

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trailhead was supposed to be there. There was absolutely no

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trail so and I hung out there. So I was like, well,

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I drove all this way, so I might as well

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just hang out here with my dog and stuff.

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And it was complete quiet.

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I mean, I wasn't really trying to stir stuff up,

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but I mean it seems like a great place where

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there'd be potential activity.

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But nothing happened there.

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But I really want to go to that like a

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sunset and see if things happen like the allegend, you know.

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Share Lake, the one where the sasquash with dreadlocks will

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chase people out of it.

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Yeah, and then can you say, also, like the logs

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will kind of come to the center and do like

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a little vortext thing.

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That's the story. Yep, They'll all go to the center

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and make a vore text every night. Yeah. Yeah, I

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mean it would be awesome to get to see if

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it's just a legend or not. Right, But yeah, but

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thank you, I can finally close the chapter. I can

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do the editing on hours and hours and stuff. This

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will be great, but I appreciate you both coming on

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and spending time out of your busy day. Swan to

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say thank you truly for listening to this episode of

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the Bigfoot Society podcast. The encounters we documented an Oakridge

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aren't just stories, but their threads in a much bigger tapestry,

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a fear curiosity in awe that surrounds the Sasquatch mystery

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in the Pacific Northwest. Huge thanks to everyone who trusted

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me with these incredible first hand accounts. From the roar

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that stopped them in their tracks to the shadow that

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tilted its head, these moments will stay with me and

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maybe with you two. If you've enjoyed this conversation, please

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And have you had any Bigfoot encounter, especially an organ

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around Oakridge Hills Creek Reservoir or the will Lame at

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National Forest. Want to hear your story, so please email

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keep your eyes open, your flashlight handy, and remember they're

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watching even when you're not, so see you in the woods.