June 25, 2026

TOWERING SASQUATCH STALKS 12-YEAR-OLD NEAR TOMAHAWK, WISCONSIN | ARCHIVES

Originally released as Episode 524 of Bigfoot Society on 9/11/24. In 1979, a 12-year-old boy found himself stranded on a lonely road outside Tomahawk, Wisconsin after a stolen junkyard car broke down in the middle of the night. What happened next...

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Season 1

Originally released as Episode 524 of Bigfoot Society on 9/11/24.

In 1979, a 12-year-old boy found himself stranded on a lonely road outside Tomahawk, Wisconsin after a stolen junkyard car broke down in the middle of the night.


What happened next stayed buried for more than 40 years.


As he walked toward town under a bright moon, something massive moved through the swamp beside him. Trees shook. The sounds got closer. Then an enormous figure stepped from the darkness and began pacing him from across the road.


For miles.


Pete shares one of the most intense encounters ever featured on Bigfoot Society, describing a face-to-face experience with a creature he estimates stood 8 to 9 feet tall. He recalls every detail—the eyes, the hands, the teeth, the body proportions, and the fear that followed him for decades.


The story expands into a deeper mystery involving the same remote area of northern Wisconsin. Strange sightings, Dogman reports, unexplained activity around homes, and multiple missing-person cases have all been reported within a small geographic region surrounding Highway O and Bellevue Road.


You'll also hear from Rick in Warren County, Ohio, who describes a night filled with precise wood knocks, owl-like vocalizations, and a strange aerial object that appeared above his property. His investigation led him to discover a history of Bigfoot reports in the same area.

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You're listening to Big for Society and I'm Jeremiah Byron.

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In this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to

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bring you first hand encounters from people who say they've

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seen something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers

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to quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere,

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and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.

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These are the voices of the people who've lived it.

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To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that

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just might change the way you see the woods forever.

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So stay with us.

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Please keep Jeremiah in your prayers as he continues his

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fight against cancer. For more updates about his medical journey,

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please go to the carring Bridge link in the show notes.

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Thank you all right, Big for Society. You've got the

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privilege of talking to Pete today. Pete is an individual

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that reached out to me from up in Wisconsin, and

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he's got some interesting thing. He's got some interesting things

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that happened to him back quite a while ago. But

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I'm going to go ahead and let him kind of

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set the stage. And thanks for coming on the show, Pete.

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Yeah, No, brom Vremot, thanks for letting me. My name

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is Pete.

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I was born in nineteen sixty seven in Tomahawk, Wisconsin.

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Just to set the mood a little bit, like if

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you've never been to Wisconsin, when you get up cast,

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the sand burns like midway through the state, the northern

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half starts like the lake country. Minnesota's like clayming the

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same as you know ten thousand lakes, they actually have

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like thirteen thousand. Wisconsin has fifteen thousand. Alaska has over

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a million. So it's swampy lake country up here. My

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encounter happened in nineteen seventy nine, and seriously, like the

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reason I came on this show was like I wanted

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to tell my story to thousands of people that I

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knew would believe me. I never said anything for probably

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forty years about this, And when I first started telling people,

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they would look at you like you were crazy.

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You'd say, oh, hey, that's a cool story. You want

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to hear a bigfoot.

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Story, and you know you might as well be running

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around telling people you've seen bugs bunny running out of

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the woods because it's just so fanciful and so anyway,

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I didn't tell my story until probably five years ago,

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and I was watching bigfoot podcasts and stuff, and I thought, man.

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That'd be cool just to get this out of my chest.

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I'd been trying with people that I knew, and like

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nobody was trying to hear it.

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They're like, yeah, sure, whatever.

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But about five years ago I got the courage and

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I text Steve Idahl from How to Hunt about my

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encounter and it was kind of bland because he was

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reading it, you know, from an email. So my encounter

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happened in nineteen seventy nine. I was twelve years old.

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My dad owns a or owned a racetrack and a

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junkyard here in Tomahawk, which is a little community of

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thirty five hundred people, and being kids, I was the

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youngest of thirteen. Having a junkyard, we always had junk

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cars to drive around, but we didn't have driver's license.

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So in my town, you could look from my house

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to the parking lot of the police station. This is

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nineteen seventy nine and see if the squad. If the

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squad car was there, you could get in one of

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the dad's junk cars that ran, and you and a

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couple of your buddies go cruising. Out in the boondocks

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or whatever. So we'd wait for the cop to you know,

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pulling the station, and we knew we'd get out of town,

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but we had to drive out of town because we

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didn't have license while I was twelve years old. So

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one particular night, probably September, I had taken a like

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nineteen seventy two Toyota Tursell for a joy right on

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the junkyard when I did it at night, And if

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you can kind of picture this if you looked at

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the map, obviously north being north Tomahawk, or if you

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had a tee, Tomahawk could be down on the left

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corner of the tee. You go up to the top

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corner of the tee. One road goes left, one road

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goes right. The road that goes left is twenty eight

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miles long, it's Highway E. The road that goes right

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is a four mile stretch called Highway ALL. So it's

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about three and a half miles out of town to

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Highway HO. I get to Highway ALL, I take a

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right and I'm noticing that my headlights are getting dim

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so I rolled down the window. When I rolled down

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the window, like you could hear the cicadas and crickets

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and bowl frogs, you know.

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It's just.

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So I lean my head out the window to listen,

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and the lights are getting dimmer and dimmer. So I

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turn off the dash lights, turn off the radio, and

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I'm like, okay, I got turn this car around and

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get back home. Well, the car ends up dying about

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a half mile from this four to four and a

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half mile stretch of highway home, and I'm like, I

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got to get this car back. Dad's gonna notice is

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gone next morning. So I get out of the car.

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There's like a muskeg area, probably half the size of

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a football field on the side that the car was

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broke down on. There's another smaller muskeg field kind of

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the left, which is indicative of a swamp cattail's growing

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up and stuff. So I'm kind of debating what do

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I want to do. It's a long walk back to town.

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It's probably like eleven o'clock at night. So I start

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walking across this little two lane county road, you know,

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four foot gravel on end, going down to the swamp

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on both sides, and it's like ninety percent full moon

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with a little bit of cloud covers. So you can

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literally see, you know, pretty much everything. So well, I

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hear a noise and I look over and I see

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like the tallest pines that are probably like eighty foot

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on the edge of the swamp, maybe sixty footers are

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shaken back and forth, and I'm like, what in the

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world is that? And then I see the next tree

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shake and the next tree shake, and then two of

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them are shaken like someone's pulling on them. Now, typically

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the biggest animal we would have up here in black bear.

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The state records like seven hundred and eighty three pounds,

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So I'm thinking it's got to be a black bear.

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So now I'm getting kind of scared.

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I kind of walk back to the car, and I'm

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thinking should I get back in the car, And I'm like,

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I don't want to be stuck out here, you know,

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with whatever that is or that bear trying to dig

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in the car.

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So I'm like, I'm just gonna start walking real fast.

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As I'm walking pretty much as fasts probably as a

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twelve year old could do without running. The trees a

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get still moving and they're getting closer and closer to

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the road. Well, growing up in the seventies, like my

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exposure to Bigfoot was like Steve's whatever his name was,

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with a six million dollar man, Steve Auston or whatever,

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where he wrestled Bigfoot. If anybody remembers that show, it

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was probably on the nineteen seventy six or so.

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That was pretty much my exposure to it.

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You know, we had abcnbccbs, so we didn't like ever

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hear anything. I've heard about Bigfoot. I probably got books

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in school about them. But to my mesmerment or astonishment,

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it steps out from the edge of that tree bank

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into the ditch, which is probably thirty thirty six inches deep,

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and starts walking along with me. Now, everything in me

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told me do not run, don't run, don't run, because

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I was trying not to elicit that predator responsor, you know,

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the chase response. But my mind said that, my leg

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said something different. So I started booking it. And I'm

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looking across at as saying, I mean it sing's sixteen

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feet away from me, and it's stepping like well, I

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was smaller back then, so it probably seems like it

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was a bigger step when I was a kid, But

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I would say eight to ten foot steps. So as

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I'm running as fast as I can. This thing is

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walking just leisurely clipped with its hand swinging, just like

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the Patterson film. Now, I got like three miles to

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go to get back to the street light where highway

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ends and eat starts. If I took a left, i'd

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go back to Twan. So I'm like, man, oh man,

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this is something else. Now when I think back on it,

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it to me it seems like I was floating over

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the scene watching what was happening, with the big Foot

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on one side, the roade me on the other side.

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That's kind of what my memory tells me now. But anyway,

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so I'm running down this road, and halfway down this

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road a guy had put up a quonset hut, which

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the army would helicopter them around you could park like

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a Willy's jeep, and.

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There a couple of them.

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So he somehow got a hold of this coanset hut

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and he put it up right alongside the road and

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highway all and he had a street light out in front.

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And as I'm running, I probably had covered a mile

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at this point, like looking at this saying, just sinking,

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it's literally just going to reach its arm across the

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road and fricking grab me and wring my neck.

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So to say like that I was.

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Terrified, There's not even a word to describe the amount

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of terror that I had floaten through me, especially being

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an impressionable, you know, twelve year old bo. So anyone,

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how I keep running. Well, I'm coming up over this

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little crest of a hill and I see that yard

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light where that coonsit hut was. So I'm thinking, man,

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all right, I forgot. I just got to get to

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that yard light. And it's probably three quarters of a

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mile or a mile distant when I first see the light.

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So I'm like, yes, And I'm sitting there thinking, I mean,

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this thing's been running even if I did a seven

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minute mile, I mean, this thing's been running walking alongside me,

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running for ten minutes by now, or eight minutes whatever.

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It was a long period of time. But at this

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point it's starting to come into my head. I'm just thinking,

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there's a billion things come into my head. But I'm like, man,

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I'm dead. You know, why hasn't even grabbed me? When

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it grabs me, I hope it's quick, you know, Like

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what are my parents gonna think? Or they ever gonna

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find me? Like all this is going through your head.

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So anyhow, I'm getting closer to the light, I get

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a half mile away or whatever, it's getting brighter and

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brighter and brighter. And then it just dawned on me

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or something. Epiphany came to me that if it was

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gonna grab me, it was gonna grab me before I

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got to that street light, because obviously it's gonna want

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to do it under the cover of darkness. So now

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I'm like a quarter mile away from the light and

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I'm getting closer, and I'm getting really scared to get

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to that light, but I got no other.

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Place to go.

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So I'm like, Okay, the plan is when I get

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like two blocks and I'm going to, you know, just

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put it in the final gear that I got overdriving,

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get up to that house, and run into that house.

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So it's something in me like if you would ask

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if I would do that again, would I do this?

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I slowed down and started walking, like I don't know,

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maybe three or four blocks away from the light. And

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when I started walking, I noticed how hard I was bawling,

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like literally sobbing, and I literally just looked over at

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it and I said, dude, I will never say I

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seen you, Like, I got no problems with you. I'm

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just a kid. I just want to live. I want

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my mom and dad. And this thing did the like

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Sierra sound thing like, and like literally talked back to me,

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and I just kept walking.

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And then like I'm getting closer.

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I'm getting closer, and I'm trying to think of anything

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I can say, because I can tell like there's like

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a dialogue going trying to elicit any empathy I could

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from this saying to spare me. And when I got

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like a block away from the street light, I just

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booked it, or maybe two blocks away, ran up, started

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pounding on the door. Bigfoot, I hate to even call

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it that. That sounds so cliche. Whatever it was, sasquatch

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took a write started crashing through the woods and I

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could just hear crack crack, I mean just like a

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bulldozer was going through the woods. And I knocked on

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the door. No one came to the door, and they

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had a two ninety six nineteen seventy six three on

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the tree, Chevy pickup orange one and I got in

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there and man, he's wearing there.

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I thought they don't come out.

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I blew my horn for like five minutes and I'm like,

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there's no way that I'm staying out by this, saying

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Kee's are in the truck, I'm head of the town.

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So that's pretty much the end of it there. And

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like I said, I didn't tell anybody.

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Probably the first time was about five years ago. And

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believe it or not, one of the people I told

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was one of my sisters. So we had this remembrance

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party for a guy named Ronnie Proctor up here. He

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was a Vietnam vet houned at Northwood Sambron and Ronnie

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from't been dead for fifteen at this point, but we

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had a remembrance for him. And my sister walks up

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to me and she says, Peter, tell me about your

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bigfoot encounter.

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And I was like, uh, shot.

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Up, like why did you do that, looked at me,

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and she goes, oh, I believe you, she said, because

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I've had dog man encounters.

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So that kicked off a whole other thing.

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And she had a dog man encounter and the guy

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three miles away from her was having dog man encounters

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and he's been missing for twelve years. And two years

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ago another guy disappeared like from three miles away from there,

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without a trace, like infirm guy that rode a hover around,

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no activity in those credit cards or nothing. And then

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about forty years ago another guy went messing there. But obviously,

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you know, no one even thought big Bigfoot or dog

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Man at that point. But so I'm starting to think

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there's some hurting the various stuff going on around here.

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So wow, first off, thank you for sharing that with

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the audience. I mean, that is that's an incredible story

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for something. I mean, for you to go through that

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as a twelve year old, that is just incredibly intense.

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You know, I've had events in my life like like

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a car accident I had a couple of months ago.

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You know, it's where you think about it and you

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kind of just shake your head and think like man,

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oh man, But I'm telling you that encounter Jeremiah, for me,

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like at least five days a week, I still dwell

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on that and literally shake my head and just think

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is that crazy or.

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What that that happened to me?

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Because I mean, part of it's a miraculous thing, and

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another part of it's just like Luminoucy. You know, it's

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where you're like thinking you lost your mind almost.

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I agree that when the logical side of our brains

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to art's kicking in. It just it can't handle any

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of that stuff, and it tries to explain it away,

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and I get, I haven't seen anything yet, but I've

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heard stuff, and it tries to explain it away, and

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it's intense. Do you remember anything about what you saw

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that day? Like did you get a good look at

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the face at all?

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Or sure?

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Man, I could see, like I said, that moon was

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like it was probably like ninety eight percent full with

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occasional cloud cover. And when them clouds weren't covering that moon,

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I mean it was just you know, almost.

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Like daylight out.

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I seen every aspect of it, believe it or not,

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except for the feet. I mean the high brow ridge,

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higher set, cheap bones, uh slared out no was believe

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it or not, thin lips like didn't have big lips,

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just had like them thin chimp whips, big like horse

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chickle of teeth. Now, thinking back, I don't remember really

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seeing ears. Definitely had the cone head with the giant

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trap muscles, huge hands like I would say mine or

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the one that I seen was eight foot tall, but

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part of me, as an adult, thinks it might have

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been like nine foot tall. But yet the hands on

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that thing had to be they had to be sixteen

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inches from wrist to fingertips with you know, fingers like

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the size of Kilbosa. Like the grip strength that thing

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would have had in them hands would just have to

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be out of this world. And I remember seeing them

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hands as he was walking because they were swinging back

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and forth, and like my biggest fear was like, man,

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I hope he doesn't wrap them around my neck for real?

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Wow?

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How far down were the hands hanging on the body.

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Which I would say, I would say three inches below

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the knee.

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Okay, were you able to get a feel for what

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color it was? Maybe like what length of hair anything

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like that?

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I would say the hair length, I would say it

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was like two to three inches. It definitely didn't have

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like a big droopy fur cold or six inch long hair.

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And who knows. I mean that could be due to

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the food.

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Source up here as a post other places, but uh,

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color was probably dark brown. You know, there may have

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been like some orange or red in her, but really

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I couldn't see what that moonlight. I mean, it just

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I would say, e they're black or dark them, aren't

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Jeremiah like seriously like them, biceps had to be like

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thirty five inches around wow, you know bicep and tricep.

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Which is just gargantulin. The forum too, you know the forum.

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I don't know, probably twenty inches around at the you know,

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forearm muscle. Like this thing should literally be able to

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grab a car and like crush it like a soda can.

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Did it affect you in any way as you grew up?

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Did it?

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Would you see it in your dreams? Or were there

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any other weird things that would happen to you as

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you grew up that might be connected to that sighting?

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Yeah?

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Probably the most poignant, you know, event that ever happened

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to me. Like I said earlier, you know, there's events

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that in your life. We're on occasion you think him

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and be like, yeah, that was something else and kind

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of shake your head. But like I said, five days

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a week at least I sit here and reflect back

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in that encounter for the last forty four years or

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whatever and just shake my head like did that really

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happen to me? Like, you know, it's so far fetched

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that it's hard to even believe it happened to me myself.

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I mean, it's just surreal. If you were to say, hey, Peter,

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let me tell you about seeing you know, the three

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pig cartoon characters.

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On the woods, I mean yeah, I'd be like, okay,

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Jeremiah with.

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Right, right, have you ever seen anything that even comes

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close to what you saw that day? No, so no

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representation of it is even close.

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I mean, yeah, Bigfoot, that's it.

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Well, you know how there's like different versions of it.

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There's like your Harry and the Henderson's or you know

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there's the the like ones where I let's say, like

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from Exists or or the Patterson Gimlin film version or

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any of those even come close to what you saw.

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Well, I mean not probably quite as cosmetic looking as

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Harry Anderson's, but that would be a pretty good representation

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of it. And really, when I think about like some

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of the emotions, like responding to when I started telling it,

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like I'll never tell anyone I've seen you in I'm

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just a kid and I want to get home. Like

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some of his like facial expressions were kind of like huh,

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Like oh really, I didn't realize that, So they it

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did have like a level of emotion to it, or

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your curiosity at the very least.

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Oh so you think maybe, I mean, that could go

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a few ways. Maybe he understood you, or perhaps he

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was just like, what is this little creature making noise now?

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And and what's coming out of its mouth? Maybe he

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was just curious at that.

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We don't know, right, Yeah, But regardless if it was

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curiosity or empathy or what I mean, it wasn't just

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like you know, one of my cats, which is one

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hundred percent instinct, you know it was there was some

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level of restraint or you know, empathy or empathy you know,

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towards me and probably my bawling. And I know I

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often think a lot like I wonder if like shedding

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them tears saved me that day, you know, like if

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I would have been more stoic, might I never have

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been heard from again? You analyze it every way, almost

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every day of your entire life, and you know, try

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to think back on certain little things that you might

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have missed and your overanalyzed parts of it.

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I mean, the fact of it. You know, my encounter

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was pretty intense.

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Mean that the thing was fourteen sixteen feet away from

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me for fifteen minutes. Yeah, not super dramatic, but it

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was pretty traumatizing still is. You don't think I've ever

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had a nightmare over it or anything like that. But

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I'll tell you when I go camping boy, like if

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I hear a fraud movement, I'm, you know, like, oh

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what is that?

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Right?

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Yeah, obviously they're real, And I mean I know that

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without a doubt. So I mean, I know they're out there,

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and that one put it past one and come visit campers,

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you know, like to reportedly do.

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Did it have an older look to it or a

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younger look or did you get any feel for the

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age of it at all?

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To me, it looked like it was like what a

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fort year fifty year old human would look like. Sure,

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like it had like the what I took to be

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is like beginning crows feet, because I reflected back on

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that thousands of times too, and then based on like

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the roughness looking look of the teeth, and that looked

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like it had some seasoning to it.

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In in the Tomahawk area, it sounds like you've never

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heard any other stories of anyone seeing a big foot

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in that area.

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Uh, not the bigfoot, but the couple of dog man

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stories I kind of briefly talked about it. There is

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also a guy like twenty five miles north of Tomahawk,

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like two decades ago, was driving back from Monaca, which

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is a resort town, and got to a highway named

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Highway K, and dog Man ran out in front of

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his car, and he started the Northern Wisconsin dog Man

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Research Center or something like that.

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I'm not sure what it is, but it's up there.

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But other than that Bigfoot, Nope, Like I'm the only

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one that I know of. There are sightings like sixty

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miles northwest of Tomahawk that have been on podcasts, like

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in Phillips, but I've never never heard of any other

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ones in Tomahawk.

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So sometimes we talk about dog Man. If it comes

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up organically, I don't go out and pursue it just because,

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to be honest, it freaks me out a little bit.

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But since you brought it up, are these what kind

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of interactions were these? Were these like pretty wild ones.

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Or okay, yeah, well I'll actually just tell it, okay

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this one time's god Anyway, So when my sister walked

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up at that cook on, she said, tell you're a

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big Foot story and I was like, ready the strangler,

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I'm like, yo, got off, didn't think I'm crazy, and

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then looked at me and could see like my reluctance,

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and she goes, oh, don't worry if you have a

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big foot encounter.

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I believe you because I've had a dog man encounter.

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So come to find out, she starts telling me about

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her dog man encounter. When you turn on Highway Oh,

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and I told you Highway E goes like twenty seven miles,

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you know, to the left, Highway OH is four four

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and a half miles long. There's one road off of

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that road that's like a quarter mile dirt voading.

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It's called Bellevue Road.

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So starting to tell me the story, and I go,

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where was this and she said off of Bellview And

459
00:26:46.000 --> 00:26:48.960
I said, oh, that's interesting because my big foot encounter was,

460
00:26:49.400 --> 00:26:51.200
you know, a quarter mile away.

461
00:26:50.960 --> 00:26:51.920
From Bellview Road.

462
00:26:52.640 --> 00:26:55.319
When I got to that guy's quantit hut, the start

463
00:26:55.359 --> 00:26:57.160
of it was like two and a half miles down.

464
00:26:58.359 --> 00:26:59.960
So I go, will tell me about your dog man.

465
00:27:00.319 --> 00:27:04.079
Now again, I'm kind of going just off memory, but

466
00:27:04.680 --> 00:27:09.599
she said when they moved out to Bellevue, a neighbor

467
00:27:09.640 --> 00:27:11.359
come up to her and said, hey, keep a close

468
00:27:11.359 --> 00:27:14.759
eye on who was like a nine year old and

469
00:27:14.759 --> 00:27:16.759
and was like well, what what's up with that? And

470
00:27:16.839 --> 00:27:19.160
he went get into it. He said, just keep an

471
00:27:19.160 --> 00:27:22.880
eye on him around the woods, you know. So she

472
00:27:23.039 --> 00:27:27.480
moves in. They get settled in. A month or two later.

473
00:27:27.519 --> 00:27:31.599
It was pretty early after they'd just gotten there, got

474
00:27:31.640 --> 00:27:34.279
dropped off the school bus and he came flying in

475
00:27:34.359 --> 00:27:37.960
the front door, slammed the door and started bawling, and

476
00:27:38.039 --> 00:27:40.839
she said, what's wrong. And he told her that a

477
00:27:40.920 --> 00:27:44.480
werewolf chased him after the school bus left up the driveway.

478
00:27:46.079 --> 00:27:51.279
So she kind of attributed it, you know, to aversealous

479
00:27:51.359 --> 00:27:56.400
imagination and just said, oh, well, I'm sorry, honey, you know, like, okay,

480
00:27:56.480 --> 00:27:57.039
wear a wolf.

481
00:27:57.079 --> 00:27:57.400
Whatever.

482
00:27:57.759 --> 00:28:01.039
So weeks later she decided to put in a garden.

483
00:28:01.079 --> 00:28:03.240
She rolled the till of the garden and she said

484
00:28:03.359 --> 00:28:06.920
it was close to the woodline. She started rolled a

485
00:28:07.000 --> 00:28:09.839
till in this area for the new garden she was

486
00:28:09.839 --> 00:28:12.920
putting in, and she said she kept smelling like sewer smell.

487
00:28:14.000 --> 00:28:17.160
So she's like out there for a week and sometimes

488
00:28:17.160 --> 00:28:19.599
she smells it, you know, half the time she does.

489
00:28:19.680 --> 00:28:20.640
Halftimes she doesn't.

490
00:28:21.079 --> 00:28:24.200
But she started thinking, like, my neighbor septic must be

491
00:28:24.279 --> 00:28:30.920
backed up. So whatever, she just went on with her life. Well,

492
00:28:30.960 --> 00:28:33.559
within a day or two, she was doing dishes and

493
00:28:33.599 --> 00:28:36.960
the sink, and the sink overlooks the backyard, and she

494
00:28:37.000 --> 00:28:40.440
said she happened to raise her head and looked on

495
00:28:40.480 --> 00:28:43.200
the woodline. She said there was a werewolf standing or

496
00:28:43.240 --> 00:28:48.240
a dog man, and she said that when she looked up,

497
00:28:48.400 --> 00:28:51.559
she could tell that it locked eyes with her. And

498
00:28:51.599 --> 00:28:55.559
when that happened, when that eye connection was made, she said,

499
00:28:55.559 --> 00:28:58.440
it sprung down to its knees and put its hands

500
00:28:58.440 --> 00:29:02.400
on the knees and jumped so high up in the air.

501
00:29:02.480 --> 00:29:03.480
She said it had to be.

502
00:29:03.440 --> 00:29:05.960
Thirty feet high up in the air, back into the

503
00:29:06.000 --> 00:29:10.799
woodline and was just gone. So at that point she

504
00:29:10.920 --> 00:29:13.960
knew that story her nine year old was true. So

505
00:29:14.039 --> 00:29:17.880
she's like, Okay, now I'm like super freaked out, and

506
00:29:17.960 --> 00:29:20.599
she goes, I feel like a terrible parent because told

507
00:29:20.599 --> 00:29:22.599
me about it, and I was just like, yeah, whatever,

508
00:29:23.240 --> 00:29:27.319
and now this thing is really out here. So shortly

509
00:29:27.359 --> 00:29:30.799
after that incident, they started having it on her roof

510
00:29:30.839 --> 00:29:36.799
of her trailer. Then doorkno'm shaking, started tapping on the windows,

511
00:29:37.000 --> 00:29:40.519
and she said she literally seen the claws tappen on

512
00:29:40.559 --> 00:29:45.519
the window, which would be like tricky, terrifying if you

513
00:29:45.559 --> 00:29:52.160
ask me, well, and the doorknob thing happened like every night.

514
00:29:52.279 --> 00:29:56.559
So at this point in the story, her ex husband,

515
00:29:56.640 --> 00:29:59.880
who is like a sixty year old zzy top beer,

516
00:30:00.160 --> 00:30:03.359
you know, biker with a chain wallet and the greasy

517
00:30:03.400 --> 00:30:06.960
blue jeans, comes walking up upon her telling me the story,

518
00:30:07.960 --> 00:30:10.480
and he goes, yeah, he goes, I thought she was crazy,

519
00:30:11.079 --> 00:30:14.319
like she's talking about there's a werewolf and but was

520
00:30:14.319 --> 00:30:16.640
telling me she'sed by a werewolf. And I'm sitting there

521
00:30:16.720 --> 00:30:19.119
thinking like, man, these people have lost their minds, Like

522
00:30:19.200 --> 00:30:20.200
my kid's crazy.

523
00:30:21.200 --> 00:30:22.880
But he's a biker.

524
00:30:22.960 --> 00:30:24.720
He's a gun of fishing on us. So she said

525
00:30:24.720 --> 00:30:26.480
we would just come out here and spend the weekend.

526
00:30:27.160 --> 00:30:29.920
So he said he brought his twelve gauge and like

527
00:30:29.960 --> 00:30:33.920
the three fifty seven. And now he's telling this story

528
00:30:34.599 --> 00:30:37.160
and he goes, I'll be we're not sitting there, and

529
00:30:37.200 --> 00:30:39.880
he goes, something starts jiggling the doorknob, and he goes,

530
00:30:39.920 --> 00:30:42.039
I'm looking right at the doorknob.

531
00:30:41.599 --> 00:30:44.640
And you know, kind of telling me like he thinks

532
00:30:44.680 --> 00:30:45.920
it's a prank.

533
00:30:45.720 --> 00:30:48.480
Or you know whatever, and he goes, but then I

534
00:30:48.519 --> 00:30:50.640
heard it jump up on the roof and started running

535
00:30:50.680 --> 00:30:54.400
across the roof. He runs out the back patio, you know,

536
00:30:54.440 --> 00:30:57.799
with a twelve gauge whatever with probably a flashlight take

537
00:30:57.880 --> 00:31:01.839
to it or something, and he's seen it just leap

538
00:31:01.880 --> 00:31:02.279
off the.

539
00:31:02.240 --> 00:31:03.279
Backside of the building.

540
00:31:03.400 --> 00:31:08.119
So they got out of there within months of that.

541
00:31:08.920 --> 00:31:13.079
But during this time, getting back to that road, Highway

542
00:31:13.119 --> 00:31:15.680
Eve goes twenty seven miles to the left, Highway Old

543
00:31:15.759 --> 00:31:16.960
four four and a half miles.

544
00:31:16.720 --> 00:31:17.119
To the right.

545
00:31:18.200 --> 00:31:22.680
A guy named lived five miles up Highway E from

546
00:31:22.680 --> 00:31:27.000
where I turned to go on Highway Oh found out

547
00:31:27.039 --> 00:31:31.680
about having a dog man issue, and he had been

548
00:31:31.759 --> 00:31:35.759
having a dog man looking there cabin window that him

549
00:31:35.799 --> 00:31:39.400
and his dad you know shared, still sitting there listening

550
00:31:39.400 --> 00:31:43.119
to it, but reaffirmed, you know, that there was something

551
00:31:43.160 --> 00:31:45.599
out there. So I'm like pretty intrigued at this point.

552
00:31:46.559 --> 00:31:48.680
He called her and he said, Hey, this thing's been

553
00:31:48.720 --> 00:31:52.119
looking in my window like every night now, and he said,

554
00:31:52.160 --> 00:31:56.480
I'm going to go kill the thing. And next morning

555
00:31:56.519 --> 00:32:00.000
they found car keys and wallet. Now keep in mind

556
00:31:59.839 --> 00:32:03.680
is seven miles out of town now on the countertop

557
00:32:03.960 --> 00:32:07.559
and was never seen again. It's been I think thirteen

558
00:32:07.640 --> 00:32:12.920
years now. The guns are missing everything. He just disappeared.

559
00:32:14.440 --> 00:32:16.319
They've had one of my buddy.

560
00:32:16.119 --> 00:32:18.680
Z owns an insurance company here, and.

561
00:32:19.880 --> 00:32:24.039
He's taken out sent dogs, cadaver dogs all over that

562
00:32:24.440 --> 00:32:29.279
property and they went, you know, searching for the body.

563
00:32:29.400 --> 00:32:31.440
Like every three years they go out there with dogs

564
00:32:31.440 --> 00:32:36.680
and do you know, massive searches. And so that's the

565
00:32:36.720 --> 00:32:41.519
second part of it. Now, three years ago, a man

566
00:32:41.640 --> 00:32:47.160
named just got his third drunk drive and ticket. This

567
00:32:47.240 --> 00:32:54.640
guy's probably four hundred pounds, drove a scooter, lived two

568
00:32:54.680 --> 00:32:58.759
and a half miles from where my encounter occurred, like

569
00:32:59.000 --> 00:33:02.119
nine miles away from where it disappeared thirteen years ago,

570
00:33:02.680 --> 00:33:05.759
and like five miles away from where was having her

571
00:33:05.839 --> 00:33:11.519
dog man issue. He gets the third drunk driving, gets

572
00:33:11.559 --> 00:33:15.759
out of jail, gets a ride home. This guy like

573
00:33:15.880 --> 00:33:19.480
can barely wat He lives like seven miles out of town,

574
00:33:21.720 --> 00:33:24.240
fifty yards back on the little gravel driveway with a

575
00:33:24.279 --> 00:33:26.839
house with a barn, and to get his mail and

576
00:33:27.039 --> 00:33:30.319
end of the driveway he parks is picked up right

577
00:33:30.359 --> 00:33:32.279
next to the steps of the house and he'll get

578
00:33:32.279 --> 00:33:35.759
in that truck, drive the you know, thirty yards or

579
00:33:35.799 --> 00:33:38.440
whatever it is to the mailbox, grab the mail, back

580
00:33:38.519 --> 00:33:41.799
the truck back up. That's how you know, infirm he

581
00:33:41.960 --> 00:33:47.480
is so he went back home, and then the mailman

582
00:33:47.599 --> 00:33:50.200
started noticing the mail was piling up, so he looked

583
00:33:50.200 --> 00:33:50.920
into it and.

584
00:33:51.000 --> 00:33:52.480
Called the cops, and the cops went out.

585
00:33:52.519 --> 00:33:59.119
There no sign, no credit card activity he was on

586
00:33:59.200 --> 00:34:04.559
like food Share. There's no food Share activity on his card.

587
00:34:04.640 --> 00:34:09.239
Just disappeared without a trace. Oh wow, And who knows.

588
00:34:09.320 --> 00:34:13.119
I mean, that's that's speculative as to me, trying to

589
00:34:13.320 --> 00:34:16.559
pin that onto a cryptid. But when you think about it, Jeremiah,

590
00:34:17.119 --> 00:34:21.599
like all these these four incidents happened within less than

591
00:34:21.639 --> 00:34:25.159
ten miles of each other. And then the last instance

592
00:34:25.159 --> 00:34:28.440
I'm going to talk about is in the seventies, a

593
00:34:28.559 --> 00:34:30.480
kid that I went to school with, his name was.

594
00:34:32.639 --> 00:34:35.320
They had a farm out there too, probably another five

595
00:34:35.400 --> 00:34:40.639
miles distant, and his brother went missing like forty years ago,

596
00:34:40.800 --> 00:34:42.800
and they said he was just in the house and

597
00:34:43.079 --> 00:34:46.199
next thing we know, we couldn't find him anywhere, and

598
00:34:46.840 --> 00:34:50.360
they were like trying to pin that on thinking he

599
00:34:50.400 --> 00:34:53.039
did something to his brother. And that kid no one

600
00:34:53.159 --> 00:34:58.079
seen him for like forty or forty five years. So

601
00:34:58.199 --> 00:35:01.440
that's just another five miles away from there. So the

602
00:35:01.599 --> 00:35:04.960
chance that like three people would come up missing in

603
00:35:05.000 --> 00:35:11.159
that small proximity with no clues whatsoever other than hearsay

604
00:35:11.239 --> 00:35:15.320
of like dog man talk, is beyond coincidence in my eyes.

605
00:35:15.760 --> 00:35:17.760
You know what scary thing is going to be, Pete,

606
00:35:18.159 --> 00:35:22.039
is that there's going to be people with more too. Yeah,

607
00:35:22.119 --> 00:35:24.599
always happens. There's gonna be more from this town. I

608
00:35:24.679 --> 00:35:28.000
guarantee it. Oh my goodness, this is this is really weird.

609
00:35:29.360 --> 00:35:34.880
Hmmm, like really like Jeremiah, I called the deputy sheriff

610
00:35:35.440 --> 00:35:37.440
like a year a year and a half ago in

611
00:35:37.519 --> 00:35:40.719
Lincoln County here and he was like the homicide guy,

612
00:35:40.840 --> 00:35:43.119
And I go, man, are you ready for like a

613
00:35:43.159 --> 00:35:46.920
stupid story? And he's like, well, I don't know you

614
00:35:46.960 --> 00:35:48.840
know what's pretaining to So I go just here, I

615
00:35:48.880 --> 00:35:51.199
need you just to hear me out. And I probably

616
00:35:51.199 --> 00:35:54.480
told the story twice as fast as I did you,

617
00:35:54.480 --> 00:35:56.760
you know, just to get to a brief synopsis of

618
00:35:56.840 --> 00:36:00.400
it or whatever engages a canyon. And when I got done,

619
00:36:00.440 --> 00:36:02.639
you literally said you're crazy.

620
00:36:04.079 --> 00:36:04.320
Wow.

621
00:36:04.480 --> 00:36:07.639
And I'm like, well, dude, like there isn't like really

622
00:36:07.679 --> 00:36:11.719
any homicides up here, so I'm pretty sure you're not

623
00:36:11.880 --> 00:36:12.920
that swamp.

624
00:36:12.639 --> 00:36:14.639
Like why don't you open your mind? You just kind

625
00:36:14.639 --> 00:36:15.559
of look into it.

626
00:36:16.480 --> 00:36:16.960
Yeah.

627
00:36:17.079 --> 00:36:22.599
Oh man, wow, uh you said there were so you

628
00:36:23.320 --> 00:36:26.960
there's definitely a few missing people, and man, I wonder

629
00:36:27.000 --> 00:36:29.079
how crazy it gets. I wonder if there's people that

630
00:36:29.159 --> 00:36:31.800
have encountered portals like out in the woods and they're

631
00:36:31.920 --> 00:36:35.599
just like they walk through something that feels electric, you know,

632
00:36:35.719 --> 00:36:40.199
things like that, or I don't know, m yeah, we'll see.

633
00:36:40.320 --> 00:36:41.719
Yeah, but.

634
00:36:43.280 --> 00:36:45.840
There's certainly you know, of course I follow you know,

635
00:36:46.280 --> 00:36:51.920
Pilate's you know, Missing for one one and other channels

636
00:36:51.960 --> 00:36:56.599
and stuff like Bigfoot Society and Sasquatch Chronicles.

637
00:36:57.039 --> 00:36:58.519
That's you Obviously.

638
00:37:00.079 --> 00:37:03.840
I'm pretty selective with what I choose, but like that

639
00:37:03.920 --> 00:37:08.599
portal whole thing, Like as bizarre as that sounds, it

640
00:37:08.920 --> 00:37:13.920
sounds more you know, palatable all the time because there's

641
00:37:14.000 --> 00:37:19.360
obviously something getting people. You know, maybe nine out of

642
00:37:19.360 --> 00:37:21.480
a ten of them will be found fifteen twenty years

643
00:37:21.480 --> 00:37:23.719
from now, but man, there's still people missing from one

644
00:37:23.800 --> 00:37:24.719
hundred years ago.

645
00:37:25.559 --> 00:37:25.920
Wow.

646
00:37:27.320 --> 00:37:30.960
You know that nobody's ever stumbled upon or you know,

647
00:37:31.280 --> 00:37:33.480
came across out in the woods or you know, like

648
00:37:33.679 --> 00:37:39.440
about buckling some old leather shoes or something, and so yeah,

649
00:37:39.599 --> 00:37:43.559
I don't know if it's a portal or if it's

650
00:37:43.679 --> 00:37:47.280
bigfoot dog man and they just chew every bone down.

651
00:37:47.480 --> 00:37:52.679
You know nothing or what it is, but like where

652
00:37:52.679 --> 00:37:54.400
do these people's clothes go? Then?

653
00:37:54.840 --> 00:37:58.719
Mm hmm man, Yeah, Lincoln County, Wisconsin. Some weird stuff

654
00:37:58.760 --> 00:38:00.880
going on is Rhyan Lander and Lincoln County two.

655
00:38:02.079 --> 00:38:04.480
No, that's ow Night, but it's twenty miles away.

656
00:38:04.559 --> 00:38:05.800
Yeah, so it's not that far away.

657
00:38:07.000 --> 00:38:08.840
No, it's really wow.

658
00:38:09.239 --> 00:38:12.119
Oh man, Pete, I'm so glad that you you reached

659
00:38:12.119 --> 00:38:14.159
out to me because this one was I didn't even

660
00:38:14.679 --> 00:38:17.599
reach out to you. You just randomly, you know, filled

661
00:38:17.599 --> 00:38:21.719
out the the form. And I'm glad you did because this, uh,

662
00:38:21.880 --> 00:38:24.480
this could really lead to some interesting things. But I'm

663
00:38:24.519 --> 00:38:28.039
glad that you got the opportunity to share what happened

664
00:38:28.039 --> 00:38:30.639
to you way back then with your sighting.

665
00:38:30.760 --> 00:38:34.840
Though, well, I appreciate telling it to where I know

666
00:38:35.079 --> 00:38:37.199
ninety nine out of one hundred people ain't gonna say

667
00:38:37.199 --> 00:38:40.760
I'm a maniac, So yes, sir.

668
00:38:40.800 --> 00:38:44.039
And and if anything else, uh, you ever run into

669
00:38:44.079 --> 00:38:47.639
anything else or hear anything else strange up there, definitely

670
00:38:47.840 --> 00:38:51.159
feel free to reach out and and let me know what's.

671
00:38:51.000 --> 00:38:54.679
Going on, well there's an update or anything like that.

672
00:38:54.800 --> 00:38:55.960
I certainly won't.

673
00:38:56.039 --> 00:38:58.559
And you know, one of the last thing I kind

674
00:38:58.559 --> 00:39:02.000
of wanted to say is of the thousands of times

675
00:39:02.000 --> 00:39:06.639
that I pondered, you know, this sighting and you know,

676
00:39:06.760 --> 00:39:09.280
like how it could live up here, and you know,

677
00:39:09.360 --> 00:39:11.679
like the bear skin and the sparse hair. I mean,

678
00:39:11.679 --> 00:39:14.199
it had a lot of hair, but you know, like

679
00:39:14.239 --> 00:39:17.199
a lot of guys like have back hair that's like

680
00:39:17.320 --> 00:39:18.159
out of control.

681
00:39:18.480 --> 00:39:19.880
It was kind of more like that.

682
00:39:20.039 --> 00:39:23.000
So I don't know if they put on more hair

683
00:39:23.079 --> 00:39:26.639
for the winter months or you know, or what. And

684
00:39:26.960 --> 00:39:31.679
there certainly is an abundance of you know, berries everywhere

685
00:39:31.719 --> 00:39:37.480
there's raspberries and you know, blackberries and everything, like anywhere

686
00:39:37.480 --> 00:39:38.320
in the woods you want.

687
00:39:38.400 --> 00:39:39.760
Here there's berries.

688
00:39:40.880 --> 00:39:44.280
And certainly loads of deer and you know, small game.

689
00:39:44.360 --> 00:39:48.679
But I don't know, to me, like it just seems

690
00:39:48.760 --> 00:39:53.199
weird that a creature granted a bear a deer. I mean, yeah,

691
00:39:53.199 --> 00:39:56.079
we know about them, but that a creature would literally

692
00:39:56.199 --> 00:39:58.639
choose to live up in this environment because the winters

693
00:39:58.679 --> 00:40:03.880
get pretty brewed off here, you know, and what they

694
00:40:04.199 --> 00:40:06.920
I mean, like the amount of here I seen on

695
00:40:07.079 --> 00:40:09.559
this thing, Like it just seems impossible. It could it

696
00:40:09.599 --> 00:40:12.000
could have stayed warm, you know, in the winter time

697
00:40:13.920 --> 00:40:16.440
because it's just like human skin, you.

698
00:40:16.400 --> 00:40:22.079
Know, just grayer. Oh yeah, yeah, so I guess that's

699
00:40:22.079 --> 00:40:22.840
the last thing.

700
00:40:22.639 --> 00:40:26.519
Man, all right, Pete, Well, well we'll see where this leads.

701
00:40:26.519 --> 00:40:29.679
This is a very interesting one and listener's got some

702
00:40:29.760 --> 00:40:32.079
pretty crazy dog man stuff out of it too. So

703
00:40:33.000 --> 00:40:37.639
there you go, guys. But I appreciate you calling in, Pete.

704
00:40:38.280 --> 00:40:40.760
Yeah, Jeremiah, I appreciate it, luting me, and thanks everyone

705
00:40:40.800 --> 00:40:41.280
for hearing me.

706
00:40:42.079 --> 00:40:48.599
Have a good one you too. All right, big flet's societ.

707
00:40:48.599 --> 00:40:51.039
You've got the privilege of talking to Rick tonight. Rick

708
00:40:51.159 --> 00:40:55.519
is a listener from Warren County, Ohio, and he's got

709
00:40:55.519 --> 00:41:00.599
some interesting things that happened to him earlier. And it's

710
00:41:00.639 --> 00:41:01.639
a pleasure to talk to you.

711
00:41:01.840 --> 00:41:02.039
Rick.

712
00:41:02.079 --> 00:41:02.719
How's it going.

713
00:41:04.840 --> 00:41:07.079
It's great, great weather here in Ohio.

714
00:41:07.599 --> 00:41:12.159
Oh, absolutely same here in Iowa, which is I mean

715
00:41:12.440 --> 00:41:15.480
last week was a little bit too hot during the

716
00:41:15.519 --> 00:41:19.679
state Fair, but right now pretty good. Rick's a pleasure

717
00:41:19.719 --> 00:41:22.639
to have you on the podcast. I know we've been

718
00:41:22.920 --> 00:41:25.800
meaning to talk for a little bit of time, so

719
00:41:26.119 --> 00:41:29.239
I'm going to go ahead and pass things right over

720
00:41:29.320 --> 00:41:32.320
to you. And yeah, feel free to share what you

721
00:41:32.480 --> 00:41:34.559
have experienced.

722
00:41:36.679 --> 00:41:43.320
Okay, Well, like a lot of people did listen to

723
00:41:43.440 --> 00:41:50.920
you your fans. I really got interested in bigfoots in

724
00:41:51.239 --> 00:41:55.840
UFOs back in the early seventies with the In Search

725
00:41:55.880 --> 00:42:03.599
of program and the Patterson Gambling film, and so, you know,

726
00:42:03.760 --> 00:42:07.199
I I, like I guess a lot of people back then,

727
00:42:07.519 --> 00:42:09.320
I had to go to the library.

728
00:42:09.800 --> 00:42:12.480
And so I read books as many as I could.

729
00:42:12.519 --> 00:42:15.800
And you know, I was probably twelve thirteen years old.

730
00:42:16.519 --> 00:42:20.559
At that time, and I was really into it at

731
00:42:20.559 --> 00:42:24.079
that age. But you know, getting into high school and

732
00:42:24.119 --> 00:42:29.519
in college and professional life, I you know, really I

733
00:42:29.559 --> 00:42:33.079
paid attention to it, but I had other priorities.

734
00:42:34.199 --> 00:42:41.559
And never lost interest in it. But with YouTube and

735
00:42:41.760 --> 00:42:44.519
the proliferally proliferation of.

736
00:42:46.320 --> 00:42:51.760
Videos and podcasts and things like that, it rekindled that

737
00:42:51.880 --> 00:42:56.480
interest and I've you know, I listened to this stuff

738
00:42:56.639 --> 00:43:01.880
on a daily basis.

739
00:43:02.119 --> 00:43:03.320
I live in an area.

740
00:43:04.719 --> 00:43:13.519
That was exclusively farmland up to fifty sixty years ago.

741
00:43:14.519 --> 00:43:17.719
It's in the I can say, the I seventy five

742
00:43:17.800 --> 00:43:24.719
corridor between Cincinnati and Dayton, but as time has passed,

743
00:43:24.719 --> 00:43:29.079
it's it's been built up mostly with residential housing, and

744
00:43:29.960 --> 00:43:31.159
you know, there's kind of.

745
00:43:31.079 --> 00:43:39.159
A ten mile you know, housing belt around.

746
00:43:38.920 --> 00:43:44.000
Ice seventy five, just just because of the transportation, and

747
00:43:44.119 --> 00:43:48.360
a lot of people here either work in Cincinnati or Dayton,

748
00:43:48.599 --> 00:43:55.159
so they traveled back and forth. I live on the

749
00:43:55.239 --> 00:44:01.320
last part of my grandfather's farm.

750
00:44:02.280 --> 00:44:03.960
It's been in the family for about one hundred and

751
00:44:03.960 --> 00:44:04.639
forty years.

752
00:44:06.360 --> 00:44:12.880
And this area, like other areas around here, is being

753
00:44:13.480 --> 00:44:18.559
built up with residential housing, but.

754
00:44:20.519 --> 00:44:23.679
There still remains a lot of woodlots, a lot of

755
00:44:23.719 --> 00:44:31.719
farm fields, a lot of water sources, plentiful deer on

756
00:44:31.840 --> 00:44:38.119
this particular property. I've seen all kinds of animals and birds,

757
00:44:38.840 --> 00:44:41.199
plenty of deer, plenty of coyotes, fox.

758
00:44:44.320 --> 00:44:49.559
But I never really thought, you know, anything what happened

759
00:44:49.599 --> 00:44:51.639
to me could happen in this area.

760
00:44:52.000 --> 00:44:57.199
So I'll tell you what happened. It was. I'm in

761
00:44:57.199 --> 00:44:58.280
the security business now.

762
00:44:58.840 --> 00:44:59.599
I spent.

763
00:45:01.800 --> 00:45:05.639
Sixteen years near me, fourteen of that in special operations,

764
00:45:06.519 --> 00:45:09.119
and then after that I was a police officer for

765
00:45:09.199 --> 00:45:13.360
twenty two years, seventeen of that in swat operations, and

766
00:45:13.599 --> 00:45:21.320
I was predominantly a sniper. So I'm now in my sixties.

767
00:45:21.320 --> 00:45:28.119
I'm insecurity work. So April thirteenth, get off at eleven thirty,

768
00:45:28.119 --> 00:45:32.480
always making it home right before midnight. So I think

769
00:45:32.480 --> 00:45:35.039
it was a I think it was actually about eleven

770
00:45:35.119 --> 00:45:37.960
fifty eight at night.

771
00:45:37.920 --> 00:45:38.840
Driving the driveway.

772
00:45:40.760 --> 00:45:43.159
Got into my car like I usually do, and my

773
00:45:43.280 --> 00:45:45.199
habit is that I just go to the rear of

774
00:45:45.199 --> 00:45:48.679
my car and I just stand and I listen to

775
00:45:48.719 --> 00:45:49.960
what's going on in the woods.

776
00:45:50.239 --> 00:45:52.760
And you know here if I can.

777
00:45:54.800 --> 00:45:58.360
There is if there's any animal activity.

778
00:45:58.559 --> 00:46:01.639
Well, I was standing there facing east.

779
00:46:02.960 --> 00:46:06.920
And I looked up in the sky and I see

780
00:46:07.440 --> 00:46:12.880
something that appears round and as an orange reddish hue.

781
00:46:12.599 --> 00:46:16.280
To it, and I immediately think it must be Mars.

782
00:46:18.079 --> 00:46:22.639
But it surprises This surprises me because it appears larger

783
00:46:23.199 --> 00:46:28.639
than I would expect Mars to appear. And so I

784
00:46:28.639 --> 00:46:32.519
don't see any movement. I don't see any change in

785
00:46:32.599 --> 00:46:39.039
the light intensity. I stand there at three four minutes,

786
00:46:39.079 --> 00:46:43.079
probably watching this thing, and at the same time, back

787
00:46:43.119 --> 00:46:48.519
in the woods, I hear this not these knocking sounds

788
00:46:48.840 --> 00:46:54.880
with an owl sound right after another. There's like four

789
00:46:54.960 --> 00:46:58.280
or five knocks and then an alcohol and this is

790
00:46:58.360 --> 00:47:05.360
repeated I'm gonna say five to six times. So after

791
00:47:05.920 --> 00:47:08.840
I'm thinking a bit more about what I'm looking at

792
00:47:08.960 --> 00:47:16.480
instead of what I'm hearing. But I thought at the time,

793
00:47:16.519 --> 00:47:19.239
I thought, I don't know if any owls or any

794
00:47:19.559 --> 00:47:25.199
animals that knock not around here. So, after watching this

795
00:47:25.360 --> 00:47:30.679
object and nothing is changing, something to go inside. But

796
00:47:30.719 --> 00:47:34.920
I know there's an important detail, and that is I

797
00:47:35.039 --> 00:47:40.199
don't see any stars. I look around the sky and

798
00:47:40.239 --> 00:47:43.199
my view is partially hidden due to mature trees. But

799
00:47:43.320 --> 00:47:47.039
I don't see any stars in the sky. And I

800
00:47:47.719 --> 00:47:55.840
I'm inside now and I'm talking to my piance and

801
00:47:55.880 --> 00:47:58.960
I'm telling her what I'm seeing and hearing, and she said,

802
00:48:00.280 --> 00:48:02.280
you need to go outside of the binoculars and look

803
00:48:02.320 --> 00:48:05.800
at that thing again. I said, yeah, you're right, I do.

804
00:48:06.440 --> 00:48:11.719
So I grab my binoculars, go out. It's gone nowhere

805
00:48:11.760 --> 00:48:16.440
to be seen and still no stars. So how was

806
00:48:16.559 --> 00:48:21.920
I seeing Mars? But there's no stars? So I come

807
00:48:21.960 --> 00:48:24.400
back inside. I look on the internet and I say, okay,

808
00:48:24.440 --> 00:48:28.880
where's the position of Mars based upon my location? I

809
00:48:28.920 --> 00:48:32.039
look it up. Tells me a direction. The direction is

810
00:48:32.159 --> 00:48:37.320
different than what where I saw this object. I saw

811
00:48:37.320 --> 00:48:42.480
this object due east and using a horizontal finger technique

812
00:48:42.519 --> 00:48:45.519
I learned in the Army, it was about forty degrees

813
00:48:45.599 --> 00:48:48.599
above the horizon. You know, it's a nonstretched arm with

814
00:48:48.880 --> 00:48:53.199
fingers horizontal. Each finger is about ten degrees, so it's

815
00:48:53.199 --> 00:48:56.800
about forty degrees. Not perfect, but it's it's good for

816
00:48:56.960 --> 00:48:59.800
general idea.

817
00:49:01.639 --> 00:49:02.440
So I come back.

818
00:49:02.320 --> 00:49:07.199
Inside and I had taken a picture of it and

819
00:49:07.519 --> 00:49:08.360
a video.

820
00:49:08.960 --> 00:49:12.639
Of this object.

821
00:49:14.440 --> 00:49:21.840
So I enlarge the photo twice, and much of my surprise,

822
00:49:23.679 --> 00:49:28.480
it reveals an object that is generally rectangular in shape,

823
00:49:30.239 --> 00:49:35.119
and it has angles and stream lines in it, and

824
00:49:35.280 --> 00:49:35.920
it has its.

825
00:49:35.840 --> 00:49:39.599
Kind of coronal white filaments coming around it.

826
00:49:40.719 --> 00:49:43.559
But I think that it is more due to the

827
00:49:43.679 --> 00:49:46.079
enlargement process and the type of.

828
00:49:46.079 --> 00:49:49.199
Camera I was using. It was just a cell phone camera, so.

829
00:49:49.199 --> 00:49:52.480
I can't actually say that that white the white filaments

830
00:49:52.519 --> 00:50:03.280
were part of the the object. So, you know, come

831
00:50:03.320 --> 00:50:06.440
back inside, start talking about it again with my fiance, and.

832
00:50:09.159 --> 00:50:10.039
She's very curious.

833
00:50:10.119 --> 00:50:17.639
She's very interested in this subject too. So I decided

834
00:50:18.039 --> 00:50:21.320
the next day I'm going to report it to move on.

835
00:50:23.880 --> 00:50:27.639
So I do write a written report, send it. I

836
00:50:27.679 --> 00:50:30.599
don't hear anything from them, Okay, that's fine with me.

837
00:50:31.199 --> 00:50:31.679
I don't care.

838
00:50:32.360 --> 00:50:39.360
But I get to think more about the sounds. The sounds.

839
00:50:40.119 --> 00:50:42.960
I've just never heard anything like that in the woods

840
00:50:43.000 --> 00:50:45.559
in Ohio, and I've spent a fair amount of time

841
00:50:45.559 --> 00:50:50.639
in the woods, did some hunting, did a lot of camping.

842
00:50:52.360 --> 00:50:56.280
Can't call myself an expert on Ohio fauna or flora,

843
00:50:56.320 --> 00:51:05.320
but I'm pretty familiar. So I look up if there

844
00:51:05.320 --> 00:51:12.239
are any UFO reports in my county or possibly Clinton County,

845
00:51:12.639 --> 00:51:14.320
which was the direction I was looking.

846
00:51:16.599 --> 00:51:20.320
Nothing. I'm thinking, I can't be the only person that

847
00:51:20.440 --> 00:51:20.760
saw this.

848
00:51:22.079 --> 00:51:25.320
There are no reports that I see, so okay.

849
00:51:27.599 --> 00:51:35.000
It was about a week later that I'm watching a video.

850
00:51:35.119 --> 00:51:39.719
It's a it's a video taken from an Navy FA

851
00:51:39.840 --> 00:51:44.360
teen super hornet flying off the USS Theatore Roosevelt back

852
00:51:44.400 --> 00:51:47.440
in two thousand and four. This was taken i think,

853
00:51:47.480 --> 00:51:51.480
off to our southeastern coast, somewhere like South Carolina or Florida.

854
00:51:52.840 --> 00:51:54.679
And I'm watching this and.

855
00:51:57.960 --> 00:52:02.559
It's from the camera taken by the pilot and I

856
00:52:02.599 --> 00:52:05.719
see something that looks really familiar. But I'm like, whoa,

857
00:52:07.079 --> 00:52:09.679
let's let's let's wind that back a little bit. So

858
00:52:09.719 --> 00:52:12.960
I wind it back, started up again, and I freeze

859
00:52:12.960 --> 00:52:17.519
it and I'm like, oh my gosh, that looks almost

860
00:52:17.559 --> 00:52:22.119
exactly what I saw, Like I really saw a ufl

861
00:52:23.519 --> 00:52:28.880
uh never in my wildest imagination. And I think I

862
00:52:28.920 --> 00:52:30.599
would get out of my car, look east and see

863
00:52:30.639 --> 00:52:32.039
a ufo, but it happened.

864
00:52:33.360 --> 00:52:38.320
So as time goes by, I really started thinking about

865
00:52:38.320 --> 00:52:44.880
the sounds, and so I look up on the owls

866
00:52:45.280 --> 00:52:46.360
that live in.

867
00:52:46.280 --> 00:52:49.960
Ahile, because I hear great horned owls all the time,

868
00:52:50.440 --> 00:52:54.719
especially in the fall early winter. So the other ones

869
00:52:54.760 --> 00:52:59.880
I can remember screech, how barn ol, barn owl, horned owl.

870
00:53:01.039 --> 00:53:05.280
I think there is sawweet owl, but I know. I

871
00:53:05.400 --> 00:53:10.960
got on hotmail, or not hotmail, but YouTube and listened

872
00:53:11.000 --> 00:53:17.119
to the various owl calls, and what it most closely

873
00:53:17.239 --> 00:53:22.800
resembled to me was the barred owl. Now, as time

874
00:53:22.840 --> 00:53:28.599
has gone by and I've heard witness accounts of their encounters,

875
00:53:30.000 --> 00:53:36.480
I've heard bard owl calls or mimicking mentioned a couple

876
00:53:36.480 --> 00:53:40.119
of times, and I thought that was that's kind of

877
00:53:40.159 --> 00:53:44.440
that's pretty interesting to me at the time listening to

878
00:53:44.599 --> 00:53:51.440
the actual the YouTube audio of a barred owl, it

879
00:53:51.559 --> 00:53:54.639
was very close. But to me and my memory, it didn't.

880
00:53:54.960 --> 00:53:57.719
It wasn't exact. I could be wrong.

881
00:54:02.119 --> 00:54:10.000
What also struck me about this these repetitive sounds, the

882
00:54:10.239 --> 00:54:17.360
wood knocking. It did not sound like a.

883
00:54:16.079 --> 00:54:21.119
Branch being struck against a tree or anything like that

884
00:54:21.239 --> 00:54:27.159
based upon the tone, the consistency of the sound, it

885
00:54:27.280 --> 00:54:32.880
sounded more like two machined pieces of wood that were finished.

886
00:54:34.760 --> 00:54:36.960
And immediately thought, okay, it could it be like two

887
00:54:37.000 --> 00:54:41.719
baseball bats or being struck together, something like that, or clavas.

888
00:54:41.960 --> 00:54:46.400
Are you familiar with the clob it's a percussion instrument. Yes,

889
00:54:48.599 --> 00:54:51.239
And it sounded it had that kind of ringing, that

890
00:54:51.440 --> 00:54:56.199
resonance to it that a branch.

891
00:54:55.840 --> 00:54:58.280
Would not have or a tree wouldn't have.

892
00:55:02.440 --> 00:55:08.559
So that got me more curious, and nobody thought, I'm

893
00:55:08.559 --> 00:55:10.400
looking for alternative explanations.

894
00:55:12.159 --> 00:55:16.280
You know, somebody some percussionists out there hitting very large

895
00:55:16.320 --> 00:55:18.639
closets or baseball pats together.

896
00:55:18.719 --> 00:55:25.159
And I thought, nah, very very unlikely, and it would

897
00:55:25.239 --> 00:55:33.519
take a percussionist because there there was a precision in this,

898
00:55:33.760 --> 00:55:42.239
the repetitiveness from repetition to repetition of the sounds it was.

899
00:55:42.400 --> 00:55:44.840
There was a preciseness of it. There was.

900
00:55:45.360 --> 00:55:50.199
The volume stayed the same, the tone stayed the same,

901
00:55:51.719 --> 00:55:55.519
the space between the sounds stayed the same.

902
00:55:55.760 --> 00:55:57.960
Now I wish I had a spectrum analyzed or not.

903
00:55:58.400 --> 00:56:00.559
You know, I could have recorded that look at it,

904
00:56:00.639 --> 00:56:03.920
you know, that way, But it didn't have one In

905
00:56:03.960 --> 00:56:04.719
my back pocket.

906
00:56:07.639 --> 00:56:14.559
So I heard these these grouped sounds probably five to

907
00:56:14.679 --> 00:56:19.079
six times, and there was no distinct difference in the

908
00:56:19.119 --> 00:56:23.480
space between the knox and the bard. I'll call and

909
00:56:23.480 --> 00:56:25.679
that's what I'll call it, because I have nothing else

910
00:56:25.719 --> 00:56:26.239
to call it.

911
00:56:27.039 --> 00:56:28.039
That's what it resembled.

912
00:56:35.199 --> 00:56:38.119
So the more I've listened to people talk, the more

913
00:56:38.159 --> 00:56:43.760
I've rolled this around in my brain, and it made

914
00:56:43.679 --> 00:56:45.719
me do a lot of thinking.

915
00:56:47.280 --> 00:56:50.880
Excuse me. So then I looked.

916
00:56:52.559 --> 00:56:56.880
On the BFR website, and you know, for a sightings map,

917
00:56:57.800 --> 00:57:01.360
looked at the sightings in Ohio and they the listings

918
00:57:01.360 --> 00:57:05.440
of sidings in the counties I'm much to my surprise,

919
00:57:05.519 --> 00:57:06.440
there are I.

920
00:57:06.360 --> 00:57:10.440
Think five sidings since twenty fourteen in my county.

921
00:57:11.639 --> 00:57:17.159
And these were they not necessarily seeing a bigfoot, but

922
00:57:17.920 --> 00:57:23.840
hearing rocks clacking together, wood knocks, and I know of

923
00:57:24.280 --> 00:57:30.079
I can remember at least one visual. It is a

924
00:57:30.119 --> 00:57:33.880
little further south than where I live, about ten to

925
00:57:33.920 --> 00:57:42.840
fifteen miles in those areas, it's a significant forest for

926
00:57:42.960 --> 00:57:54.679
them to hide. So I made a report to bfrrow

927
00:57:55.760 --> 00:57:58.840
didn't hear from them.

928
00:57:59.239 --> 00:57:59.880
It doesn't matter.

929
00:58:02.960 --> 00:58:06.519
But so the more I've gone through this process of

930
00:58:07.119 --> 00:58:13.360
analyzing this, I have become more and more convinced that

931
00:58:13.360 --> 00:58:16.960
that was a big foot that was making those sounds. Now,

932
00:58:18.559 --> 00:58:21.960
another line of investigation that I went on was.

933
00:58:25.079 --> 00:58:28.440
I have heard from people that on on on the

934
00:58:28.480 --> 00:58:30.400
podcast that many.

935
00:58:30.159 --> 00:58:36.079
Times UFOs are the signings are related to or in conjunction.

936
00:58:35.679 --> 00:58:38.719
With big foot sidings. So I looked up.

937
00:58:40.280 --> 00:58:42.800
How many what's were kind of percentage, and the number

938
00:58:42.840 --> 00:58:46.840
I saw was thirty percent, which was really surprising to me.

939
00:58:46.920 --> 00:58:53.199
That's a huge number, and even if it was five percent,

940
00:58:53.880 --> 00:58:55.360
that number is significant.

941
00:58:57.639 --> 00:59:05.599
So I thought, what's the connection here? Inter dimensional being?

942
00:59:06.800 --> 00:59:09.239
You know, my mind is just opened up to a

943
00:59:09.360 --> 00:59:11.360
variety of things.

944
00:59:11.920 --> 00:59:16.639
Although I'm there's there's a rational mind and then there's

945
00:59:16.639 --> 00:59:19.960
the emotional mind, and I'm trying to separate those two things,

946
00:59:20.000 --> 00:59:28.280
and you know, trying to operate on evidence and not

947
00:59:28.440 --> 00:59:30.880
might not let my emotions get too involved with this.

948
00:59:33.679 --> 00:59:39.960
So then I began researching what other are there other

949
00:59:40.159 --> 00:59:47.800
cryptids sightings in this area and not really And I

950
00:59:47.840 --> 00:59:54.079
found something back in eighteen ninety or eighteen eighty two

951
00:59:54.440 --> 00:59:58.480
that was published in the Western Star. It's a newspaper

952
00:59:58.519 --> 01:00:02.199
back then of a some kind of lizzard monster that

953
01:00:02.320 --> 01:00:07.320
was sighted by boys it's a little ville. It's just

954
01:00:07.440 --> 01:00:12.000
north of Waynesville. The men of the area chased this

955
01:00:12.119 --> 01:00:14.719
thing into a tree and it popped out of the tree.

956
01:00:14.760 --> 01:00:16.840
At the top it was hollow as a sycamore tree,

957
01:00:16.880 --> 01:00:19.920
and it scampered away with the local men chasing it.

958
01:00:19.960 --> 01:00:21.599
Went down a hole and it's never seen again. It

959
01:00:21.639 --> 01:00:30.360
was the only site. But thinking back my life around here,

960
01:00:30.400 --> 01:00:35.280
my family's been around here a long time. Something that

961
01:00:35.360 --> 01:00:36.840
I had heard when I.

962
01:00:36.960 --> 01:00:41.280
Was a It's just after my senior year in high school.

963
01:00:46.679 --> 01:00:51.639
I was working at a Denny's as a dishwasher and

964
01:00:51.760 --> 01:00:54.199
people were a couple of people were talking about some

965
01:00:54.400 --> 01:00:59.920
monster that supposedly was living over by Caesar's Creek State Park,

966
01:01:02.519 --> 01:01:04.079
and that got me interested.

967
01:01:04.320 --> 01:01:07.320
So one night, it.

968
01:01:07.400 --> 01:01:12.639
Was probably July of nineteen seventy eight, took my girlfriend.

969
01:01:12.719 --> 01:01:15.199
She picked me up in her little Mercury Capri and

970
01:01:16.559 --> 01:01:19.519
we went over there. And I really didn't know the roads.

971
01:01:19.920 --> 01:01:22.480
We were driving around in the dark, not.

972
01:01:22.480 --> 01:01:31.079
Knowing where we're going, Okay, and so she makes it turn,

973
01:01:31.280 --> 01:01:33.400
she gets stuck, sheet panics.

974
01:01:33.440 --> 01:01:38.280
She's starting to cry. Well, you know, we had to

975
01:01:38.440 --> 01:01:42.320
go home. Any want an upset her. But I thought

976
01:01:42.360 --> 01:01:44.199
maybe thinking back on that that.

977
01:01:44.239 --> 01:01:50.320
Was possibly a potential bigfoot sighting people had seen back

978
01:01:50.360 --> 01:01:52.960
in seventy eight, and that may be a stretch, I

979
01:01:52.960 --> 01:02:00.280
don't know, but then in a way supported the Yemah

980
01:02:01.000 --> 01:02:04.519
hypothesis that bigfoot is in this area along with the

981
01:02:05.079 --> 01:02:08.760
other sidings, which made my experience.

982
01:02:10.599 --> 01:02:13.079
Easier to believe in my view that it was a

983
01:02:13.159 --> 01:02:14.199
potentially bigfoot.

984
01:02:19.679 --> 01:02:24.599
I've been out the last three nights sitting outside after work,

985
01:02:25.519 --> 01:02:27.079
you know, it's after midnight.

986
01:02:27.199 --> 01:02:29.320
One on one o'clock, and just listening and they're such a.

987
01:02:31.480 --> 01:02:33.639
This cicadas and the crickets are so loud, I can

988
01:02:33.719 --> 01:02:38.960
hardly hear anything else. I heard some alcohol a couple

989
01:02:39.000 --> 01:02:44.079
of nights ago, but there's nothing at this time. So,

990
01:02:44.920 --> 01:02:52.039
you know, that's that's what I got for you. Did

991
01:02:52.039 --> 01:02:53.480
you did you find those photos?

992
01:02:53.519 --> 01:02:57.880
I did, and so I'm looking at the The outline

993
01:02:58.000 --> 01:03:02.480
of both of them is so similar. It's it's incredible

994
01:03:02.519 --> 01:03:07.119
how similar it is. It's yeah, definitely like it's got

995
01:03:07.159 --> 01:03:10.760
to be the same object. There's no doubt.

996
01:03:11.039 --> 01:03:15.239
Yeah, maybe maybe not the same object, but the same.

997
01:03:15.280 --> 01:03:17.800
Kind of object exactly exactly.

998
01:03:17.800 --> 01:03:21.039
Now we we have Red Petterson Air Force Base. It's

999
01:03:21.280 --> 01:03:25.599
it's probably eighteen miles north of US, and if they're

1000
01:03:25.679 --> 01:03:28.519
man made, you know, that's that's a potential place.

1001
01:03:28.280 --> 01:03:34.719
Where it could have flown to or from. Uh. I

1002
01:03:34.760 --> 01:03:37.679
don't know how long have it been there sitting. I

1003
01:03:37.679 --> 01:03:40.760
don't know why I chose that spot, you know, thinking

1004
01:03:40.760 --> 01:03:42.480
about the range.

1005
01:03:44.159 --> 01:03:47.679
It was, I'm pretty good ranging on land because it

1006
01:03:47.719 --> 01:03:51.280
was a sniper, but in the air and not knowing

1007
01:03:51.320 --> 01:03:55.000
the size of the object it was, it's really impossible, but.

1008
01:03:56.719 --> 01:04:00.239
It it. My wild guess would be it was it

1009
01:04:00.280 --> 01:04:05.400
was five to eight kilometers away or three to five miles.

1010
01:04:07.159 --> 01:04:07.239
And.

1011
01:04:08.840 --> 01:04:11.159
Yeah, it's kind of crazy.

1012
01:04:11.800 --> 01:04:14.519
Nothing for sixty four years of my life and then

1013
01:04:14.599 --> 01:04:16.159
all of a sudden, boom.

1014
01:04:18.679 --> 01:04:25.440
The the vocalizations. That to me is just as weird

1015
01:04:25.840 --> 01:04:28.360
as you've seen something in this guy. Because you're saying

1016
01:04:28.480 --> 01:04:32.440
there's a pattern to the wood hits, then what sounds

1017
01:04:32.440 --> 01:04:36.000
like an owl and that pattern of wood hits, and

1018
01:04:36.039 --> 01:04:41.280
then the owl noise repeated five to six times. You said, yes,

1019
01:04:42.119 --> 01:04:42.719
that's weird.

1020
01:04:43.960 --> 01:04:49.760
Have you heard anything like that before? Well, I mean.

1021
01:04:51.719 --> 01:04:57.519
There's usually, as you guess, allude to anything like that before.

1022
01:04:57.639 --> 01:05:02.599
Not like not exactly the same. But I am curious

1023
01:05:02.719 --> 01:05:06.800
if the owl noise that you heard. Was was there

1024
01:05:06.840 --> 01:05:10.239
anything weird about it, like sounded really really big, or

1025
01:05:10.360 --> 01:05:14.400
like almost like something was trying to do an owl

1026
01:05:14.480 --> 01:05:16.719
noise but didn't know what it was doing and it

1027
01:05:16.840 --> 01:05:19.039
just fell off when you were listening to it.

1028
01:05:20.880 --> 01:05:23.480
Well, it wasn't louder than the other sounds.

1029
01:05:23.559 --> 01:05:27.639
I mean, I'm going to guess at the range, and

1030
01:05:27.679 --> 01:05:31.280
I was trying to kind of range how far the

1031
01:05:31.400 --> 01:05:32.480
sounds are coming from.

1032
01:05:32.760 --> 01:05:35.400
It was off. It was over my left shoulder, and

1033
01:05:35.800 --> 01:05:38.360
there's a lake that there were over.

1034
01:05:38.159 --> 01:05:43.400
My shoulder about twenty five yards and it's kind of

1035
01:05:43.480 --> 01:05:49.199
hilly surrounding this lake, so sounds kind of bounce off

1036
01:05:49.199 --> 01:05:55.000
the hills and it I'm not sure exactly how far

1037
01:05:55.039 --> 01:05:57.880
away it was, but I'm going to guess between one

1038
01:05:57.960 --> 01:06:03.679
hundred and one hundred and fifty yards, and it sounded

1039
01:06:03.760 --> 01:06:05.599
like it was on the north side of the lake.

1040
01:06:11.320 --> 01:06:16.400
And something I want to make clear it was the volume.

1041
01:06:17.559 --> 01:06:23.400
Of each sound was the same essentially that includes the

1042
01:06:23.440 --> 01:06:29.039
owl call. Either there was no appreciable difference that it

1043
01:06:29.119 --> 01:06:35.960
was louder or softer. There was no space difference between

1044
01:06:36.079 --> 01:06:42.639
each sound. So it led me to believe that it

1045
01:06:42.679 --> 01:06:43.760
was two.

1046
01:06:43.679 --> 01:06:45.199
People very much in sync.

1047
01:06:46.239 --> 01:06:53.280
Who would rehearse this or one person very unlikely percussionists

1048
01:06:53.280 --> 01:06:54.679
who can do an alcohol.

1049
01:06:55.880 --> 01:06:56.880
Or a big foot.

1050
01:07:00.119 --> 01:07:05.000
And in hearing about people are are saying, now that

1051
01:07:05.039 --> 01:07:07.840
I've heard that big feet are making this sound, they're

1052
01:07:07.880 --> 01:07:12.840
imitating owls, and the tree knocks are actually not they're

1053
01:07:12.840 --> 01:07:15.880
not actually hitting wood, but they're making it with their

1054
01:07:15.920 --> 01:07:21.679
mouth and things exactly. Yeah, and that makes that makes

1055
01:07:21.719 --> 01:07:26.960
sense to me in this case, looking at this situation,

1056
01:07:28.440 --> 01:07:31.960
that makes a lot more sense than any other alternative explanation.

1057
01:07:39.519 --> 01:07:47.840
Was it? Was there anything involved where sometimes people will say, like, well,

1058
01:07:47.880 --> 01:07:51.079
imagine you hear a normal owl and then it's like

1059
01:07:53.360 --> 01:07:58.880
a really bad impression of an owl sound. Did it

1060
01:07:59.360 --> 01:08:01.400
it actually sound like a pretty good owl.

1061
01:08:01.199 --> 01:08:04.079
Though, Yeah, yeah it did.

1062
01:08:04.960 --> 01:08:10.679
It just didn't sound like the barred owl recording exactly.

1063
01:08:10.920 --> 01:08:14.280
It sounded very much like it, but not exactly. Now

1064
01:08:14.400 --> 01:08:18.640
that comes down to, you know, there my memory. Did

1065
01:08:18.640 --> 01:08:20.520
I remember it exactly?

1066
01:08:21.920 --> 01:08:24.560
I think I looked up those recordings the next day,

1067
01:08:26.279 --> 01:08:29.119
but they at the time they were they were, you know,

1068
01:08:29.319 --> 01:08:33.359
just they stuck in my mind, So I know for

1069
01:08:33.399 --> 01:08:36.359
certain it was most closely resembling.

1070
01:08:37.359 --> 01:08:39.960
Now call or a bard ow.

1071
01:08:41.079 --> 01:08:43.920
Yeah, logically, it doesn't make sense that, you know, you

1072
01:08:44.039 --> 01:08:47.000
have that repeating five to six times, and it just

1073
01:08:48.840 --> 01:08:53.600
I can't logically explain that away. I mean, I would

1074
01:08:53.640 --> 01:08:58.119
be going to the weirder option as well if I

1075
01:08:58.239 --> 01:09:02.079
was involved with that. That's just that's just very strange.

1076
01:09:04.359 --> 01:09:07.239
Yeah, we don't have we don't have people in those woods.

1077
01:09:08.560 --> 01:09:11.680
This woodlot that we own, in the proportion next to us,

1078
01:09:12.159 --> 01:09:14.680
their neighbors own. There's not people back there.

1079
01:09:15.960 --> 01:09:18.039
You know. That doesn't mean that somebody wasn't back there

1080
01:09:18.079 --> 01:09:20.680
that night, but.

1081
01:09:22.119 --> 01:09:25.520
This is a really an odd place to do that

1082
01:09:26.000 --> 01:09:27.199
to try to get attention.

1083
01:09:27.600 --> 01:09:31.039
There are a lot better places. I go over to Caesar's.

1084
01:09:30.680 --> 01:09:35.199
Creek State Park and do it out here the campgrounds,

1085
01:09:35.520 --> 01:09:37.800
but wanted to get attention not here.

1086
01:09:40.520 --> 01:09:44.199
Yeah, that whole area that I know, I've I've heard,

1087
01:09:44.960 --> 01:09:47.960
I've heard other big there's other Bigfoot stuff that happened

1088
01:09:47.960 --> 01:09:50.239
in that area. And I know there's UFO stuff. I'm

1089
01:09:50.279 --> 01:09:52.479
just not a UFO guy, but I know people all

1090
01:09:52.520 --> 01:09:55.479
the time in that community. You are talking about the

1091
01:09:55.600 --> 01:10:00.479
area around Wright, Patterson and Dayton, and you know the

1092
01:10:00.520 --> 01:10:03.640
other areas that we've been talking about, And I mean,

1093
01:10:03.680 --> 01:10:07.840
I wouldn't be surprised that you've got weird stuff going on.

1094
01:10:07.880 --> 01:10:12.000
Do you ever hear any other sounds that just don't

1095
01:10:12.039 --> 01:10:16.520
really you know, they're out of place or anything. Well,

1096
01:10:16.560 --> 01:10:17.159
el's weird.

1097
01:10:18.680 --> 01:10:26.039
Up until April thirteenth, I really hadn't been paying attention consistently. Yeah,

1098
01:10:26.840 --> 01:10:31.279
I you know, like my habit was, I'd get out

1099
01:10:31.319 --> 01:10:32.520
of the car and give it back to the car,

1100
01:10:32.560 --> 01:10:34.119
and I'd stand there for a minute or two and

1101
01:10:34.159 --> 01:10:38.520
just listen. I didn't hear anything, so I'd just walk

1102
01:10:38.560 --> 01:10:43.239
in the house. But since then, I've been paying a

1103
01:10:43.239 --> 01:10:44.000
lot more attention.

1104
01:10:45.760 --> 01:10:49.880
Actually, I started to do some banging some rocks together

1105
01:10:50.840 --> 01:10:54.880
three months ago. Oh really, Yeah, just to see if

1106
01:10:54.880 --> 01:10:56.840
I could get any kind of response.

1107
01:10:57.800 --> 01:10:58.119
Nothing.

1108
01:10:58.279 --> 01:11:00.279
And you know it's so loud back there with the

1109
01:11:00.399 --> 01:11:04.960
cicadas and the crickets. Well, well it's hard for me

1110
01:11:05.000 --> 01:11:08.760
to hear anything. I'm probably sure that big Foot half

1111
01:11:08.800 --> 01:11:10.520
far time here and get over all.

1112
01:11:10.359 --> 01:11:14.960
The insect activity. Maybe not, but I think.

1113
01:11:16.840 --> 01:11:22.560
Once week fall coms first frost.

1114
01:11:21.000 --> 01:11:22.159
Something like that maybe.

1115
01:11:23.039 --> 01:11:27.199
And I've also thought about getting some ploba is baseball

1116
01:11:27.199 --> 01:11:31.800
bats and just banging them together. Yeah, I mean response

1117
01:11:31.920 --> 01:11:35.640
that way. I think that's what I'll do after this

1118
01:11:36.119 --> 01:11:37.319
at least insects die dom.

1119
01:11:39.760 --> 01:11:42.960
It's it's really interesting and it doesn't come up a

1120
01:11:42.960 --> 01:11:48.279
lot on this show. But the whole connection between UFOs

1121
01:11:48.319 --> 01:11:52.239
and big fight especially, I'm sure you've looked into like

1122
01:11:52.319 --> 01:11:56.840
the Chestnut Ridge area of southwest Pennsylvania. Have you ever

1123
01:11:56.880 --> 01:11:57.479
looked into that?

1124
01:11:58.960 --> 01:11:59.439
I have not.

1125
01:12:00.079 --> 01:12:06.000
That'll really blow your mind. So look into. There's a

1126
01:12:06.039 --> 01:12:10.199
gentleman out there who is collected a lot of reports

1127
01:12:10.199 --> 01:12:13.920
to do with UFO and UFOs and bigfoots over the years,

1128
01:12:15.840 --> 01:12:19.399
Stan Gordon. It's got some really interesting books. But there's

1129
01:12:19.600 --> 01:12:22.800
a ton of things that happen in the southwest part

1130
01:12:23.000 --> 01:12:27.279
of Pennsylvania in an area called Chestnut Ridge, and just

1131
01:12:27.359 --> 01:12:29.279
a lot of really weird things, like there'd be a

1132
01:12:29.399 --> 01:12:32.319
UFO sighting and then a heavy Bigfoot presence a day

1133
01:12:32.439 --> 01:12:37.279
or so later, and I want to say even there

1134
01:12:37.279 --> 01:12:41.159
were sightings where they were both seen at the same time.

1135
01:12:41.840 --> 01:12:44.279
I think that's the thing. I'm sure people in the

1136
01:12:44.279 --> 01:12:48.159
comments will will let me know if that's right or not.

1137
01:12:48.239 --> 01:12:52.199
But that's an interest. If you wanted to kind of

1138
01:12:52.239 --> 01:12:56.159
look into the connection between UFOs and Bigfoot, look up

1139
01:12:56.199 --> 01:12:58.319
the Chestnut Ridge, Pennsylvania stuff, for sure.

1140
01:12:58.359 --> 01:12:59.960
Okay, I certainly will.

1141
01:13:00.279 --> 01:13:06.720
The thing about this is everything is connected, and there's

1142
01:13:06.760 --> 01:13:11.439
going to be there's going to be individuals that come

1143
01:13:11.479 --> 01:13:13.359
out of the woodwork, and they probably are going to

1144
01:13:13.760 --> 01:13:16.600
say that they've been experiencing the same thing in the

1145
01:13:16.600 --> 01:13:21.560
same area. And that's really when the fun starts.

1146
01:13:22.119 --> 01:13:26.439
That will be interesting, That will be interesting most Uh.

1147
01:13:27.039 --> 01:13:27.239
You know.

1148
01:13:27.319 --> 01:13:31.880
My plan is, I'm just going to I mean hearing

1149
01:13:31.920 --> 01:13:38.840
some sounds over by the lake at night, uh, you know, splashing, knocking,

1150
01:13:40.600 --> 01:13:45.880
it was. It was so muffled that I really couldn't

1151
01:13:45.880 --> 01:13:49.800
discern what it was. But I'm going to go down

1152
01:13:49.800 --> 01:13:52.039
there in the woods and at night, I'm going to

1153
01:13:52.079 --> 01:13:53.840
find a spot where I can go sit down and

1154
01:13:54.840 --> 01:13:58.279
possibly I'll get a visual line on that area and

1155
01:13:58.319 --> 01:14:00.680
see if I can spot anything then and.

1156
01:14:00.600 --> 01:14:01.439
I can hear better.

1157
01:14:02.840 --> 01:14:05.800
But yeah, it'll be interesting to see if other people

1158
01:14:05.840 --> 01:14:09.840
start speaking out putting the maybe we'll get some people

1159
01:14:10.039 --> 01:14:14.560
who show the UFO on April thirteenth, like I did.

1160
01:14:15.159 --> 01:14:16.880
It probably would have been in the area.

1161
01:14:16.640 --> 01:14:21.000
Of Waynesville, in a little village of.

1162
01:14:21.000 --> 01:14:27.880
Litel Okay, cool. Well, Rick, This has been a fun

1163
01:14:27.920 --> 01:14:31.399
one because it's not one that I usually go into.

1164
01:14:31.439 --> 01:14:33.920
But It's a good way for me to get some

1165
01:14:34.039 --> 01:14:39.640
more info in an area that I'm not overly familiar with.

1166
01:14:39.720 --> 01:14:43.520
But thank you for sharing about that would weird me

1167
01:14:43.600 --> 01:14:46.800
out too, And I hope people that are listening will

1168
01:14:46.800 --> 01:14:50.520
reach out to let us know that if they've been

1169
01:14:50.640 --> 01:14:55.039
experiencing similar things in the you said Waynesville, Ohio Warren

1170
01:14:55.079 --> 01:15:02.279
County area. Yeah, okay, cool, Well, it's been a pleasure

1171
01:15:02.359 --> 01:15:02.920
talking to you.

1172
01:15:04.079 --> 01:15:07.520
Well, my pleasure, Jeremy. I love you show keep up

1173
01:15:07.520 --> 01:15:08.079
the good work.

1174
01:15:08.439 --> 01:15:12.239
Thanks for hearing me, absolutely, and if anything else weird happens,

1175
01:15:12.239 --> 01:15:15.439
please reach out and let me know. I'd be interested.

1176
01:15:16.279 --> 01:15:17.520
Yeah, you'd be the first one to know.

1177
01:15:19.640 --> 01:15:22.640
Have you ever heard all the accounts of bigfoot activity

1178
01:15:22.720 --> 01:15:25.920
around Oakridge, Oregon? And you think to yourself, Man, I

1179
01:15:25.920 --> 01:15:28.800
would love to get out in those woods and experience

1180
01:15:28.800 --> 01:15:33.359
it for myself. Well, guess what this year you can

1181
01:15:34.000 --> 01:15:36.960
If this is interesting to you, stay tuned because it's

1182
01:15:37.000 --> 01:15:41.920
pretty cool. Sasquatch Summer Fest is coming up July tenth

1183
01:15:42.000 --> 01:15:45.640
through the eleventh, twenty twenty six. It's going to be

1184
01:15:45.680 --> 01:15:50.159
even better than the previous years. You may know Jason

1185
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Kenzie from his documentary series Searching for Sasquatch. Well, this year,

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you can not only go to the festival, but you

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can also sign up for a track deep in the

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wild forest outside of Oakridge with Jason Kenzie to the

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Bigfoot Spots to look for Bigfoot. There's only eight spots

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to sign up for this, and yes, this will also

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be filmed for the next chapter in his documentary series,

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which is Searching for Sasquatch. This is a once in

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a lifetime deal. It's just trust it's going to be

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a wild, wild experience. To get a ticket, head on

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over to Sasquatch Summerfest dot com and listeners can use

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the code b sp like Bigfoot Society podcast in order

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to get a two day pass for the price of

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a one day pass. So thanks to Priscilla for giving

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me that code so that you guys can can get

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a little a little help with the costs there. Appreciate that, Priscilla.

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Before we wrap this episode, I want to say something

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directly to a very specific group of listeners. If you're

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in the military, any branch or forces, and if you've

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seen something that no one can explain, or if you're

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a National park ranger or forestry worker who's been told

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to stay quiet, or if you're a pilot who's seen

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something strange down on the ground, or if you're with

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the FBI a federal agency, or working intelligence and you've

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stumbled upon something you're not allowed to talk about. And

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if you're a firefighter, paramedic, or search and rescue responder

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who's heard screams or found tracks that didn't make sense.

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If you're in the logging industry on a remote oil field,

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or a trucker with government contracts and you've had something

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happen that you've never told a soul. And if you're

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a biologist, a wildlife specialist, or a field researcher under

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contract who has found evidence you're not allowed to report.

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If you're a pastor, a missionary, or someone on a

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spiritual retreat and you saw something that shook your faith,

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or if you work in the shadows, CIA, NSA or

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anything with clearance and you've seen what the public hasn't,

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then I want to talk to you, even if it's anonymous.

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You can reach me at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com.

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The world needs to hear what you've been forced to

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carry alone. And you're not alone. You've got the story.

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We've got the mic see you in the woods. Thank

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you for listening to this episode of the Bigfoot Society Podcast.

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Every encounter we share reminds us that the world is

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bigger and stranger than we think, and that the truth

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is often hiding just beyond the tree line. If you

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enjoyed this episode, please be sure to subscribe to the

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channel on YouTube hit the bell so you don't miss

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the next episode, and share this with a friend who's

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into mysteries, monsters, or the unexplained. And if you're listening

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all that helps more people discover the show. And remember,

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if you or someone you know has had a bigfoot sighting,

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please I'd love to hear from you, so email me

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at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com and let's start

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the conversation. If you haven't gotten a chance yet, check

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out our membership community over at www dot Bigfoot Society

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podcast dot com and that's where you can hear tomorrow's

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episode today early in ad free and members only episodes

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every week. Also, it's a place to connect with other

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people that are into the Bigfoot subject as much as

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you are. Thanks again for following along with the Bigfoot Society.

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Until next time, keep your eyes open, trust your gut,

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and never stop asking what else might be out there,

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And see you in the woods.