May 20, 2025

Trapped on the Porch! | Ohio

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Season 1

In this episode of Bigfoot Society, Jeff, a listener, shares a chilling Bigfoot encounter from Minerva, Ohio, dating back to 1972. Jeff and his friends explore an abandoned house and have a terrifying experience with a large, hairy creature. Jeff recounts the details vividly, including how their encounter led to disbelief and ridicule in their small town. Additionally, Jeff discusses how the event affected his life and interactions with the wilderness, as well as other strange experiences he has had. Don't miss this fascinating account of a classic Americana Bigfoot encounter.

Resouces:

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You've got the privilege of talking to Jeff today. Jeff

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is a listener that reached out to me about an

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interesting experience that he Jeff is a listener that reached

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out to me about an interesting experience he had quite

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a few years ago. But it's a privilege to have

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you on the show.

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Jeff. How's it going.

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It's going great, Thank you very much. It's a little

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cold here in Florida right now.

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Oh, jar Yeah, I guess for future listeners. There's a

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weird weather pattern going on now where the south of

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the US has experienced what we up here in the

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Midwest experience quite a bit as well. But you know, Jeff,

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I remember you reaching out through email, and I'm excited

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to hear what you experienced. But we're also talking before

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the show that this is a a pretty big deal

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for you as well, that you're you're able to finally

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get this across in a forum in a kind of

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maybe even therapeutic way. So I appreciate you coming on

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the show, Jeff, and you know, let's I'll have you

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go ahead and feel free to take us back to

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however long, however long back we need to go and

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what we need to know about what happened to you

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that day.

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Sure, I grew up in Minerva, Ohio, which is a

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small town in the eastern part of Ohio that's about

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thirty two hundred people, and it's sort of famous because

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of anybody who follows the Bigfoot topic knows it is

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the Minerva Monster, which was a documentary produced in nine,

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twenty fifteen. I think my story takes place much before

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that incident. Mine's in nineteen seventy two, and Minerva is

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like one of the small towns where everybody knows everybody.

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You have your group of friends, I mean, you sleep

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out during the summer, you sleep out in other people's backyards,

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and you know, it's just a typical Mayberry RFD kind

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of little town. And we had been talking to there's

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five of us, a group, the club, so to speak,

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and we had run into some older boys who had

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told us about an abandoned house about two miles outside

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of town Eva. And they said, there's an old house

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out there and it was part of a probably an

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apple orchard at one time, and they said, it's pretty cool.

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Go out careful because it's kind of dilapidated. I mean,

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what it is dilapidated, but you can, you know, so

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boys being boys, I mean go out and smoke cigarettes

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and think a beer that was tole from our father's

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or something like that. So we got on our bicycles

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and we rode out there and they told us where

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it was. There was no road. There was just an

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old farmers cut off, you know, up into the woods.

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And these woods are thick, I mean this is these

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woods are very thick. And there was a mailbox there

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no number on or anything anyway, So we right out

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there and it was in August. We were on a

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school break and it was probably after lunch, I know that.

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So we right out there and we leave our bikes

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by the road because you can do that there. And

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there was a bull of of bike and we walked

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into the woods and it was about six hundred yards

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back and we kind of you know, going through the

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woods I could do. And we get to the get

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to this house and it was in a not a clearing.

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There's trees in the yard, but it wasn't as dense

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as the woods. And that was a two story house.

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They had no doors, had no windows, were glassing the windows.

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It had a big front porch that I had seen

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its better days. And there was a big hole in

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the roof. So we looked and oh, by the way,

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I didn't put this in my lettery, but on the

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way to the house, we had to pick up a

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really foul odor. But I figured it was just a skun.

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I mean, none of us had ever heard a big

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foot or sasquatch. We get to the house and we're

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looking around and we picked up some rocks because basically

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in case there was a skunk. Right, I'm the first

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one into the house, and the other boys are right

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behind me and said, I good way to do anything.

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And I walked into the house. There's a living room

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and to the left was a I guess was a bedroom,

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and there was a staircase that went upstairs, but you

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could see the hole, so we weren't going to go

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up there. And I walked to the doorway at the

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back of the living room, which led into a kitchen,

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an old time a kitchen, and even had a hand

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pump at the sink. And there was no rescue in

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the house. I'm sure they had an out house up back.

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So I'm standing there and looking around and everybody's kind

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of milling around, a couple of guys walking into the

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bedroom and whatever. And I look out the back window

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of the house. There was no glass, right saying it

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was over the sink, and I saw in my mind,

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I saw this big hairy thing just go past the window.

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There was no arms, no legs, no head. It was

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just hair, you know. And the first thing I thought

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was a bear. I know we had bears in that area,

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but they're extremely rare. As a kid growing up, maybe

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they're more common now, but then you just didn't see

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them or hear about them very much. But I just

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assumed it was a bear. It was about it was

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a dark chocolate brown color. And I turned around and

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yelled bear and go ripped tearing through the living room

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out the front door and jump into the yard. And

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the other guys are coming after me, and we're all,

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you know, looking around, like where's this bear? Where's this bear?

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And we're about maybe thirty feet from the house, standing

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out in the front and I look over to the

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front porch. I'm not in the front. Kid named Randy was,

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so he was a little bit closer to the house

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than I was. And all of a sudden, this big, old,

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hairy head of what I first thought was a gorilla

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who looks around the corner of the house to my left,

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and I was like, what the heck? I didn't say, hecky,

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what the heck is that? And everybody's like, you know,

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it's either yelling or what is that? Right? And this

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thing just looks at us and it's got a hand

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on the corner of the house and a hand on

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the roof of the porch, and and it's all really

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happened fast, but so Randy, out of fear, had a

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big rock, I mean about the size of a baseball

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only oval. And we're all pretty good throwing rocks. I

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mean that's what you do as a kid with a

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high you throw rocks and things right so or angle

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the rock is pretty good. But Randy throws his rock

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and hits the thing right between the eyes and it

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let us screw us a screen, and now it's pissed.

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I think, I'm sure it is. And it goes to

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step on the front porch. Now, it was stooping to

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look under the ceiling of the front porch, so it's

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taller than the front porch. The front porch had to

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be at least some feet tall from the four boarders

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to the ceiling. And it was the floor. Yeah, the

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floor was about two feet off the ground, so and

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it was stupid to look at a new ceiling. So

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you can figure that out. I figured between eight and

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nine feet tall. And we turned around to run because

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he had hit this thing, and this thing let out

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of the row and it steps out of the front porch. Well,

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the front porch was weak, and it crashed through the floor

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and buried itself up to about its neck. And so

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there must have been a root cellar or something underneath

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the front porch and we're running. Now. I did look

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back once and you can see this thing trying to

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get out of the get itself out of the porch,

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and it was ripping up wood and yelling, and you know,

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it was so at that point, we're all, I mean,

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we're running, scared as dickens. But the wood is so

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thick you can't really running a straight line and dodging

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trees and getting slapped in the face with branches and stuff.

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And we get to our bikes and we grab our

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bikes and are pedaling for our life what we thought

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was our life. We're just scared.

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I was. I was.

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I've never been so frightened in my life, and I've

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done some pretty frightening things in my life. And that's

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that was the most scared I've ever been. In fact,

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where the kids peet himself and we're just pedaling and

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pedaling and pedaling and yelling at each other. What was that?

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What was that? And we finally get about a mile

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from there, we're still about a mile out of town,

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and we kind of stop peddling, and because it's not

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coming after us, and what are we going to do,

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Where we gonna do, who we're gonna tell. You know,

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we're all yelling at each other, screaming at each other,

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and we decided to go to ride to the police

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station to report it, which was a in hindsight, was

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a huge mistake. But so we ride into town. We

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go to the police station, and you know, everybody knows everybody.

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In fact, the police chief used to babysit when I

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was a kid, okay, and so it's kind of like

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these are big town police you know, station or whatever.

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I mean, they had two jails. This is really like Mayberry.

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And we go running into the into the police station,

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and one of the officers who remained name was you know,

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we're obviously very excited, we're out of breath, you know,

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and they nominate me to tell the story. So I

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explained to him we saw this big monster helped by

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this house. And he knew the house, so it wasn't

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that big of a secret that the house was there.

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And he said, if so and so is the old place?

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And I was like, I guess, I don't know, I've

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never heard of it. Anyways, So I told the story

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and he starts laughing, and which is nothing responsibly expected, actually, right,

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So we're all telling you, I know this is true,

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this is true. And he said, you guys saw a

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bear and he said it was just a bear, and

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we're like, no, it was not a bear. I'm telling

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you it was not a bear. Bears don't have hands, right,

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And so the police chief heard all this because we're

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not being quiet about it, and he comes out and

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he said, and he listens to the story, and he says,

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it was a bear. There's no such thing as what

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you're talking about. It was a bear. And so after

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a while we just kind of gave up, and he

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said he was going to call me the county or

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game warner or something like that, county whatever they are,

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to report a bear. And I said, well, I remember

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saying this to him. That's smart mouth. Anyway, I said,

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well you better tell him to take a big old

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gun because this thing was eight feet tall and I

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said eight feet talk, I don't remember, and I said,

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but it was the least six hundred pounds, five hundred pounds.

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And so.

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We just kind of go out, you know, we leave

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the police station. Well, he called all of our parents

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and told him that we were trying to file a

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false report, and some of the kids got in real trouble.

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I mean they they got really you know, parents, there

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was a different standard of parenting back then, right, And

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this is like nineteen seventy two. Yeah, nineteen seventy two.

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I was fourteen, and I went home and told my

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mom about it, and she just laughed. My mother was

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a hairdresser, and so she was the hairdresser for half

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the town, so we again, we knew everybody. And I said,

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but some of the kids got really, really in trouble

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because of trying to follow a false report. My mother

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didn't care. And after that there was a few fistfights

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during the rest of the summer, believing we told a

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couple We tried to tell a couple of people and

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they all made front of us, and of course that

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led to you know, say that to my face, and

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that was it. And we talked about it the five

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imus talked about it for her a little bit. But

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then let'sten. In fourteen eighteen, I went to college. In

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nineteen eighty, I went up to university, and I guess

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in seventy eight the Minerva Monster incident took place, was

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involved in start county sheriff and all that stuff.

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Big for a society, who will be right back after

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these messages?

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And one of the guys told me about it, called

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me up and said, did you hear about what happened

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out what was their name choir? Yeah, we knew them

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that right well out of their house and I said no.

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And they told me about it because they had gone

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around town, and I felt a little bit better about it.

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There was like huh, anally's see. And then after I

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got out of college, I went I moved out of

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state and I was living in Houston, Texas at the time,

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and I got a call. This is two thousand and

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fourteen or fifteen. I think that's when the Mi Nerval

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Monster came out the documentary and one of the guys said,

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do you think this is the same thing? I said,

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I have no idea, but I'll tell you this. After

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that documentary came out, I drew from a lot more people,

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a lot more people, a number of people that there

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were more and more people said yeah, we did see it,

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you know. So apparently this these sightings go a long

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way back, and I mean Minerva was founded in the

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early mid eighteen hundred turns just before the Civil War,

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and to find out there were stories about these tall,

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eight black creatures were monsters. I don't really call the

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monsters back from the early eighteen hundreds around there, and

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everybody just used to, you know, scare the crap out

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of each other of camping, and nobody really putting store

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into it. But I didn't know that. I had never

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heard of it before. And so that's my story.

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Jeff.

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That is a fascinating account. I mean, it's it's got

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that that classic Americana stranger things, but this is a

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thing that you really really experienced yourself. And just to

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hear that pretty much the entire the entire town, people

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that you're supposed to trust, were just making fun of

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you and laughing at you the whole time.

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Oh yeah, it must have been terrible.

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I don't I can't imagine how that affected, you know,

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a growing you know, young teenager, how that affected the

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right Well, just you.

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Just shut up about it, yeah, you just you just

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after that summer, you just never talked about it again.

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And thus it was one of the kids that I

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was with, and even that I can't remember. I think

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it was Roger. He denied it. He was the one

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who got really in trouble. He was the one who

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got home and his father just beat the crap out

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of him for turning in a false report. And he

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denied it after that that you know, there was a

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better or he didn't see it or whatever. And we

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were just stand there and looked at him like, are

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you nuts? You know, we couldn't believe that he would

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sit there and do that, but he did. And one

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of the kids. I went back to Mi nerv A,

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I don't know, it was probably an early mid nineties

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for a visit when I'm still lived there at that time.

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And I went back for a visit and went to

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one of the local bars that everybody went to, and

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went in to three of the guys and they had

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stay of in Irvan and we're still friends, and you know,

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I sat down and when we were talking about catching

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up about what's going on in who's doing and all

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that other stuff, and I said, do you guys remember

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when we went out to that house and one of

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the guys got up and left. I mean I didn't

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just said I'm sitting around for this ps and got

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up and left, and the other two sat there and

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we talked and come to find out Randy, who had

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thrown the rock, he came from a good family. I

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mean they were one of the upper middle class families

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in that town. They had their own business and stuff.

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And he became a rage and drunk and committed. And

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I asked the guys, I said, because of this, you

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think he said. They said, we don't know. Jeff, he said,

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you know, when we were in high school together, you

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kind of went off and did your thing. And I

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said yeah, and he said, and Renny, just that's when

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we started drinking. So maybe so I don't know. I'll

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tell you this. I have not been in a wood

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since I went to the Olympic Peninsula in Washington on

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vacation and took a hike with a group of people

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and I was looking, I'm tudding was I was like,

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I looked like a digit man. I was just looking around.

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I was just getting ready. But I will not go

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into woods anymore. I really won't. I mean, you not

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to drag me. So there have to be a good

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reason for me to walk in.

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And I used to do it. You know all the time.

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We need to feel mushrooming and you know, explore Befords

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and all that stuff. But I wouldn't do it. No, no,

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So that's what is affected my life.

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I'm sorry that happened to one of your friends. Yeah,

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that is just that is a heartbreaking.

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Yeah.

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You never know how being a part of experience, an

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experience like this is going to affect a person's life.

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And unfortunately, and this story, this account, it affected the

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different boys involved in many different ways. I have a

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few questions for you about what you actually saw that day.

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And so you saw it peeking out from behind from

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the corner of the house. Did you get any any

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feeling for how long the arms were? You said you

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noticed that it had one hand one place and then

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one hand up on the roof right on the ceiling.

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Yeah, you know, like when you it was standing there

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all right. So what happened was it came around and

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didn't peek around. They came around, and when it came around,

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it put its right arm up on this grab the

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roof of the porch. Okay, and then the other hand,

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the left hand came around and grabbed the corner of

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the building like it was about ready to pull itself around.

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Does that make sense?

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Yeah?

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Okay, So I don't know how long the arms were

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in relationship to its body, but they were they were well,

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well it was so tall, I mean you so, yeah,

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they were long. I mean, obviously this is a big thing,

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This is a big creature.

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I'm sure.

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Well, how long would you say, the entire you know,

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from you seeing it out the window to you guys

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running off towards the bikes, how long did that whole

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part take?

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Probably last there in a minute, wow, from the time

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I saw the window and yelled bear after it registered

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that what I saw was actually going past the window,

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so a few seconds there maybe, and I registered in

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my mind that this has got to be a bear,

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because I didn't know what else could be that bid

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for a window. And we ran out, So that was

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what ten twenty seconds maybe at most, And then we

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stood there looking back at the house and looking at

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the corners around because we weren't sure where it was

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going to go. I know it's back there, but I

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didn't know if it was going to come around the

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house or what's going on or we're going to have

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to climb trees or whatever. And the guys going what

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did you see? What did you see? And I was like,

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it had to be a bear. And then as we

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turned back the house to look. As we're looking at

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the house looking see where this thing was going to

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come out, then it came around the corner, and you know,

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I was you know, I follow your shelf and you

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did a thumbnail. I think on episode six thirty six,

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do you remember that.

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I am going to actually go look real quick, let

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me see here.

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That was it?

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Oh? Really? Was it really close?

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That? Yeah? That was as close as I've seen on

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It wasn't you could tell after you thought about it.

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After I thought about it, I didn't sit there and

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analycense time. But it was not a gorilla looking thing.

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It was more human looking, but it wasn't human without

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that thumbnail. If you wanted to look at a human

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being and say, what would be closer to that, it

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would be an Australian Aboriginal. Okay, okay, that is about

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so if you took an Australian Aboriginal and carried it

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up so it was long hair, that's what it would

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look like. Six thirty six is about the best thumbnail

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I've seen.

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That's very interesting. Yeah, no, I'm looking at it right now.

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That's that's good to know. For sure from the skin

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was lighter. But skin was lighter, Okay, was it a

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certain color the skin that you remember?

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It wasn't black, It wasn't. It was a dark brown.

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I mean it was like I wouldn't. I couldn't tell

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whether it was. I don't know. It was dark brown.

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It was you know, almost you know Indians sometimes people

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from India have a dark brown skin. Sure it was

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like that, but very very wrinkled, very craggy, very weathered.

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Do you remember looking at the the size of the

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the head from what you saw that day, do you

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remember if it was yeah, any like hot common household objects.

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Or it wasn't as six thirty six, is it? I

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mean that just that's exactly what it looked like. Other

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than the color. The fur was long, it was dense.

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You could see it thinned out in its chest, but

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you couldn't see the chest. I mean, it was just

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like a very hairy chest, but it was not as

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thick as like on the arms and the rest of it.

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It was definitely male, that's that I could get. Uh So,

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I don't know the holmes and the hands. I didn't

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see it. We didn't see the feet actually because when

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it stepped up. It just went right in. I mean

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I didn't even get a step. Two steps in and

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it was fell through the floor. But the problems of

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the hands were lighter and they weren't covered. Of course. Teeth, Yeah,

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it shot its teeth. The teeth were yellow.

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Do you remember the shape of.

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Yeah, no bangs. It wasn't like it wasn't like a gorilla.

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I'm telling him, I've seen gorillas and it wasn't like that.

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There were human teeth. It was more of a human.

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But it definitely screams. I didn't do that howling scream

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that everybody, you know, the Ohio al or whatever they

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call that thing that noise that recording. I didn't hear that,

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but it was bad. That was there was no interpretation

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of how this thing was. When Grandy get this thing

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right in the head, it looks stunned. I mean, I

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don't think it really hurted, but it wasn't expecting that

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and he he let that rock rip, and I thought,

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you dumbass, you're gonna get us killed, right, So I

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really did I did you know, what the hell did

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you just do? You know? Oh, let's piss off the

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big old big foot monster. So very away.

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Was it bleeding at all when it was hit in

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the field?

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No, no, but it never got about rock, you know,

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so I don't know, I've never seen one since I've

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never had anything like that happened, you know.

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But anyway, what are maybe some details that really stick

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out to you that you know, so if if you

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have like a question inside, like maybe there was a

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chance that we were pranked that day by the older

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boys that told us about that. Were there details that

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were like so vivid that like, there's no chance this

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was faked?

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Yes? Size, yeah, just the size okay.

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There, I mean, there's there's nobody that lived with big,

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even on the basketball team, and this thing was just

460
00:30:05.400 --> 00:30:10.240
the sheer size of it eliminates any possibility that this

461
00:30:10.319 --> 00:30:17.759
could have been a human pranking us. And if I'll

462
00:30:17.799 --> 00:30:19.960
tell you this, and he hit and found have been

463
00:30:20.000 --> 00:30:22.440
a human and Marandy had hit that with a rocket,

464
00:30:22.480 --> 00:30:26.720
had knocked him cold. This is a big I mean,

465
00:30:26.759 --> 00:30:30.039
this wasn't a huge rock, but it was a good

466
00:30:30.079 --> 00:30:36.039
sized rock, and so it had knocked him cold.

467
00:30:36.359 --> 00:30:37.720
That would have hurt somebody.

468
00:30:38.599 --> 00:30:40.599
Big for a society who will be right back after

469
00:30:40.640 --> 00:30:41.920
these messages.

470
00:30:57.960 --> 00:31:03.799
There's no way than anybody. Yeah, no, just a size.

471
00:31:04.359 --> 00:31:08.440
And like I said, I haven't told anything. I haven't

472
00:31:08.480 --> 00:31:12.880
really told anybody this since I in the last six months. Wow,

473
00:31:13.160 --> 00:31:15.519
there's a few people that I've told about. And I've

474
00:31:15.599 --> 00:31:17.680
had friends for forty years that I've never talked about.

475
00:31:18.319 --> 00:31:21.160
I never told this absolutely, because I mean this goes

476
00:31:21.200 --> 00:31:23.960
back like it was fifty it's about fifty two years,

477
00:31:23.960 --> 00:31:25.400
fifty three years, right.

478
00:31:25.880 --> 00:31:29.200
Yeah, I'm sixty seven. Yeah, well I will be sixty

479
00:31:29.240 --> 00:31:33.839
seven on Saturday. But yeah, I was fourteen to sixty

480
00:31:34.160 --> 00:31:43.079
fifty three years something like that. Yeah, And I used to,

481
00:31:43.240 --> 00:31:45.319
like I said, I used to love to go exploring

482
00:31:45.319 --> 00:31:51.599
and stuff. And I've got to believe. I think there

483
00:31:52.400 --> 00:32:00.519
are different subspecies a bigfoot across the nation. I think

484
00:32:00.799 --> 00:32:04.160
I think they're tribal. I think they have culture. You go,

485
00:32:04.400 --> 00:32:08.680
you read about instances out west and about how they

486
00:32:08.839 --> 00:32:13.359
interact with people out west versus how aggressive they can

487
00:32:13.400 --> 00:32:16.240
be and the eastern part of the country or other

488
00:32:16.519 --> 00:32:19.920
parts of the country, and people are like, well, I

489
00:32:19.920 --> 00:32:23.440
don't understand your experience when you know I didn't have that.

490
00:32:24.400 --> 00:32:28.200
I think there are subspecies, and I think there are tribes,

491
00:32:28.759 --> 00:32:31.319
and I think they have a culture, and I think

492
00:32:31.359 --> 00:32:36.079
It depends on what you run into. You know. I've

493
00:32:36.119 --> 00:32:38.559
got a big proponent of some of these other cryptids,

494
00:32:39.000 --> 00:32:41.759
you know, but I see where there's a what is

495
00:32:41.799 --> 00:32:45.880
it called afric Pithecus that they say has been done

496
00:32:45.920 --> 00:32:50.319
extinct sixty thousand years ago. Sure, but I think there's

497
00:32:50.359 --> 00:32:56.279
an evolutionary path of these creatures, a scientific of you

498
00:32:56.319 --> 00:32:59.720
know that I do. I just think that when they

499
00:32:59.759 --> 00:33:03.000
find you get that opportnity to whatever study one or

500
00:33:03.200 --> 00:33:08.119
get one or once something really goes, puts together the

501
00:33:08.160 --> 00:33:12.440
money and the effort to find something to find this.

502
00:33:14.680 --> 00:33:19.039
I think they're going to find that they're extremely probably

503
00:33:19.039 --> 00:33:22.359
more closely related to us than the chimpanzee, which is

504
00:33:22.400 --> 00:33:26.920
like ninety six percent of our DNA. I think they're

505
00:33:27.079 --> 00:33:29.720
going to find this is to be somewhere in between there.

506
00:33:30.960 --> 00:33:33.640
And I think it does have a culture. And that's

507
00:33:33.680 --> 00:33:36.920
just based on me listening to other people. That's none

508
00:33:36.960 --> 00:33:40.240
of my experience. That's just been kind of falling along

509
00:33:40.279 --> 00:33:40.480
with this.

510
00:33:42.079 --> 00:33:46.799
So I don't know, we'll see someone I agree.

511
00:33:46.839 --> 00:33:50.279
I think I would say hopefully it's it's coming sooner

512
00:33:50.319 --> 00:33:53.720
than later. But there's definitely an intelligence that is shown

513
00:33:53.960 --> 00:33:57.880
from people that I talked to I've talked to you know,

514
00:33:58.079 --> 00:34:01.319
a lot of people over the years, but now I

515
00:34:01.359 --> 00:34:03.599
want to ask you, from what you were able to

516
00:34:03.640 --> 00:34:07.920
see that day, especially from your memories of what you

517
00:34:08.039 --> 00:34:12.400
saw in the face of it, would you would you

518
00:34:12.480 --> 00:34:16.920
categorize it more as something that was human like, or

519
00:34:17.480 --> 00:34:21.000
more ape like, or something completely different.

520
00:34:23.039 --> 00:34:30.239
It was. Let me put this, Let me put it

521
00:34:30.280 --> 00:34:33.840
this way. When can I have it. No, we didn't

522
00:34:33.880 --> 00:34:37.559
have any weapons with us on this particular bicycle prep.

523
00:34:39.239 --> 00:34:43.679
But I haunted as a kid, and I would not

524
00:34:43.719 --> 00:34:47.840
have shot it. Let me put it that way. If

525
00:34:48.039 --> 00:34:51.559
it would have felt like shooting a human, an ugly one,

526
00:34:52.280 --> 00:34:55.760
a hairy one. But it would have felt like you

527
00:34:55.840 --> 00:35:01.480
shooting a human. So to answer your question, I would

528
00:35:01.480 --> 00:35:04.960
say human. I was the crew and that's what kind

529
00:35:04.960 --> 00:35:11.000
of for years, that's what kind of Just do you

530
00:35:11.079 --> 00:35:14.599
see it? You can't get I guess. You really can't

531
00:35:14.960 --> 00:35:20.400
explain it. But it looked more human, I guess, But

532
00:35:20.480 --> 00:35:23.679
it didn't. It looks like a big hurry human is

533
00:35:23.679 --> 00:35:27.559
what it looked like. I guess.

534
00:35:27.679 --> 00:35:28.760
Yeah, it makes sense.

535
00:35:29.719 --> 00:35:33.320
You saw it move in different ways, and they're different.

536
00:35:33.440 --> 00:35:35.559
They're really weird ways that you saw it, Like you

537
00:35:35.599 --> 00:35:39.079
saw it rush past a window, move around a house,

538
00:35:39.280 --> 00:35:43.639
and then kind of fall down into the wood of

539
00:35:43.679 --> 00:35:46.719
a porch or be stuck there. Did was there anything

540
00:35:46.800 --> 00:35:49.159
weird about that you noticed about the way it was

541
00:35:49.239 --> 00:35:50.239
moving at any time?

542
00:35:52.239 --> 00:35:55.639
No, I mean it moved passed that back window. There

543
00:35:55.719 --> 00:35:58.239
wasn't rushing, it wasn't running or anything like that. It

544
00:35:58.320 --> 00:36:03.519
was just like walking past it. It must have nowhere there.

545
00:36:03.880 --> 00:36:07.320
Like I said, we just smelled something going into the woods.

546
00:36:07.840 --> 00:36:12.039
So afterwards, when we all got together and talked about it,

547
00:36:12.599 --> 00:36:16.800
we think it was observing us. And I think it

548
00:36:17.000 --> 00:36:20.880
saw us come into the woods where go at some

549
00:36:21.039 --> 00:36:24.519
point picked us up, you know that were there. We

550
00:36:24.519 --> 00:36:28.039
weren't trying to be quiet, so you know your kids, right,

551
00:36:28.280 --> 00:36:30.480
you pick up a lemon and you start whacking things

552
00:36:30.559 --> 00:36:33.960
and to get through the brush and the ferns and

553
00:36:34.000 --> 00:36:39.320
all that stuff. And so I think it was probably

554
00:36:40.480 --> 00:36:44.079
saw us when we could smell something, and I remember saying,

555
00:36:44.159 --> 00:36:46.719
what is that? And the only thing I could relate

556
00:36:46.760 --> 00:36:50.719
it to was a skunk? But it didn't. You know, again,

557
00:36:50.840 --> 00:36:53.440
you think back on it, it didn't really smell us

558
00:36:53.800 --> 00:36:57.159
all that much like a skunk. Skunk, It's maybe a

559
00:36:57.199 --> 00:37:03.440
dead skunk. It's not like, are you ever hunting? Have

560
00:37:03.559 --> 00:37:05.239
you smelled something dead?

561
00:37:05.400 --> 00:37:07.280
Oh? Yeah, like a skunk? Absolutely?

562
00:37:08.400 --> 00:37:13.599
Okay, yeah, there was a sitting but it wasn't really strong.

563
00:37:13.760 --> 00:37:17.320
It wasn't like I'll turn around, go back. It wasn't

564
00:37:17.360 --> 00:37:21.159
real strong, but we could smell it. And that's why

565
00:37:21.159 --> 00:37:23.320
we picked up the rocks. Like I said, when we

566
00:37:23.360 --> 00:37:27.599
got to the front end of the yard, it was

567
00:37:27.679 --> 00:37:30.840
kind of a rocky yard and there's some apple trees

568
00:37:30.880 --> 00:37:34.840
around there, and we picked up the rocks and I

569
00:37:34.920 --> 00:37:37.639
think I picked it up person and said one of

570
00:37:37.639 --> 00:37:39.199
the guys said, what do you pick up rock fis?

571
00:37:39.239 --> 00:37:44.400
I said, well, there's a skunk in that house. You know,

572
00:37:44.519 --> 00:37:49.039
you throw the rock because they'll chase it if you don't, right, right.

573
00:37:49.719 --> 00:37:53.760
So that's why we picked up the rocks is because

574
00:37:53.760 --> 00:37:56.360
we thought there was a skunkry area.

575
00:37:56.760 --> 00:38:01.360
This area that you were in. How close was it

576
00:38:01.440 --> 00:38:02.840
to a body of water.

577
00:38:03.079 --> 00:38:06.000
There was a golf course within a mile. They had water.

578
00:38:07.079 --> 00:38:13.400
Features, and then there was a there's creeks, you know,

579
00:38:14.320 --> 00:38:16.480
creeks all over that place, so there might have been

580
00:38:16.519 --> 00:38:19.400
a creek nearby, but we didn't cross one going in.

581
00:38:20.360 --> 00:38:24.159
But again, you know, there could have been.

582
00:38:25.800 --> 00:38:26.760
I can tell you this.

583
00:38:28.119 --> 00:38:31.159
That woods, even though that place has been sold for

584
00:38:31.199 --> 00:38:37.440
a very long time and there are lots of farming

585
00:38:37.519 --> 00:38:44.639
going on, the woods there are very dense and or

586
00:38:44.719 --> 00:38:48.599
they do have cops of trees. They're close together. I

587
00:38:48.639 --> 00:38:55.679
could probably walk miles and trees if I tried to,

588
00:38:55.880 --> 00:38:59.519
if I might have crossed a road or two, but

589
00:38:59.679 --> 00:39:02.800
I could probably walk from miles in trees and not

590
00:39:03.119 --> 00:39:07.039
enter into a field if I knew where I was going.

591
00:39:08.480 --> 00:39:11.199
I think that's people don't think go high and as

592
00:39:11.320 --> 00:39:13.360
like that, because you know, they think it's just finally

593
00:39:13.400 --> 00:39:18.239
and then stuff in eastern Ohio, you know, it is

594
00:39:18.360 --> 00:39:22.239
very dense the woods, and there's a lot of deer.

595
00:39:23.519 --> 00:39:26.079
There's a lot of deer out there, and there are

596
00:39:26.239 --> 00:39:30.159
squirrels and rabbits and you know, so there's plenty of food.

597
00:39:30.400 --> 00:39:31.320
So I don't know.

598
00:39:32.760 --> 00:39:33.920
This is This is in.

599
00:39:34.039 --> 00:39:39.320
Carroll County when there was a weird little town. There's

600
00:39:40.559 --> 00:39:44.119
man never sits on the intersection of three counties. Literally

601
00:39:44.840 --> 00:39:47.599
Stark County, which is where the Minerva Monster took place,

602
00:39:48.280 --> 00:39:51.920
and then there's Carroll County, and then there's Columbia County.

603
00:39:53.199 --> 00:39:57.880
And this is Carroll County, which is in the southeastern quadrant,

604
00:40:00.320 --> 00:40:02.920
and that's a very world county. I mean it's very small.

605
00:40:03.920 --> 00:40:08.320
Chilter Is the capital was the the county seat.

606
00:40:09.400 --> 00:40:16.239
You know, it's very small, so that it's that it's

607
00:40:16.239 --> 00:40:20.239
good to know that information about that location as as well,

608
00:40:20.480 --> 00:40:24.360
thinking back to you know, what you heard over the

609
00:40:24.440 --> 00:40:27.760
years went growing up, going to school there that area

610
00:40:27.800 --> 00:40:31.079
where the house was. Were there stories that were told

611
00:40:31.079 --> 00:40:34.199
about that area any like town legends or like, you know,

612
00:40:34.280 --> 00:40:36.119
don't go out to this area because this kind of

613
00:40:36.119 --> 00:40:36.840
thing happens.

614
00:40:38.280 --> 00:40:41.400
That was opposite. It was like it's a cool place

615
00:40:41.440 --> 00:40:44.760
to go to. That was very popular. You know, it

616
00:40:44.880 --> 00:40:47.519
was before the age of tagging, so there was nobody's

617
00:40:47.559 --> 00:40:51.360
tagging or anything. But it was just a rundown old

618
00:40:51.400 --> 00:40:57.119
house and the kids would go out to explore. You know,

619
00:40:57.280 --> 00:41:00.000
people we you know, ghost stories and stuff. But number

620
00:41:00.159 --> 00:41:04.960
believe that although I've had my experiences on those too, so.

621
00:41:07.280 --> 00:41:11.480
Having connections to that town and you kind of alluded

622
00:41:11.519 --> 00:41:13.880
to this a little bit, but do you remember any

623
00:41:13.920 --> 00:41:19.239
other people telling stories about their encounters with Bigfoot or

624
00:41:19.840 --> 00:41:22.639
whatever it is you saw that day as you you know,

625
00:41:22.800 --> 00:41:24.440
got older through that town.

626
00:41:25.480 --> 00:41:29.480
Not really, I mean one of the things I forgot

627
00:41:29.480 --> 00:41:33.440
about that I've now remember since I put the story down,

628
00:41:34.480 --> 00:41:36.679
is there was a couple of times, like I said,

629
00:41:36.719 --> 00:41:40.199
we'd sleep out right. I don't know if you grew

630
00:41:40.239 --> 00:41:44.239
up in a small town, but yeah, you know, you

631
00:41:44.599 --> 00:41:47.119
get with your friends to go to their house to

632
00:41:47.199 --> 00:41:51.639
sleep in the backyard with a sleeping blanket and some

633
00:41:51.679 --> 00:41:53.840
stacks you wanted to bring out to here and stuff

634
00:41:54.840 --> 00:42:00.280
and could have been run around town curfew. But anyways,

635
00:42:01.360 --> 00:42:05.599
there were a couple of times that I remember that

636
00:42:05.960 --> 00:42:12.199
Ohio yell. But we always just put it up to

637
00:42:12.239 --> 00:42:20.840
coyotes or dogs or whatever. But after this, I, after

638
00:42:20.880 --> 00:42:25.239
I heard the recording of the yell, I thought that

639
00:42:25.400 --> 00:42:27.719
had to begin. And it was only a couple of times.

640
00:42:27.760 --> 00:42:32.039
It wasn't I an offend or whatever, but there was

641
00:42:32.119 --> 00:42:34.679
only a couple of times. Then there was another time

642
00:42:34.760 --> 00:42:37.239
when I was in high school, I was probably junior

643
00:42:37.320 --> 00:42:40.519
or senior at this point, that there was a group

644
00:42:40.519 --> 00:42:43.599
of girls. They lived out in the country in a

645
00:42:43.719 --> 00:42:49.480
trailer with their family, and they said that something was

646
00:42:49.519 --> 00:42:54.199
looking in their window and you know, scared the crap

647
00:42:54.239 --> 00:42:55.960
out of them and called the police or called the

648
00:42:56.000 --> 00:42:59.840
sheriff or whatever. And you know, people went out hugged.

649
00:43:00.519 --> 00:43:02.559
But they never said it was a big funt. They

650
00:43:02.679 --> 00:43:07.440
just said somebody, somebody's looking in their window. Well, again,

651
00:43:07.480 --> 00:43:11.719
I didn't put tune two together here because you should have. Maybe,

652
00:43:12.559 --> 00:43:16.480
but do you know mobile homes. You can't just go

653
00:43:16.559 --> 00:43:18.320
up to a window and a mobile home and again,

654
00:43:19.880 --> 00:43:26.400
they're tall, They're not like a regular house, and so

655
00:43:26.559 --> 00:43:28.920
maybe so, But that's the only thing I've ever.

656
00:43:28.760 --> 00:43:33.880
Heard that's interesting and a good call out about the

657
00:43:34.480 --> 00:43:37.679
height of windows on mobile homes for sure. One last

658
00:43:37.719 --> 00:43:40.280
question that I want to ask you. Sometimes when a

659
00:43:40.280 --> 00:43:43.920
person has had an interaction or encounter like this, they

660
00:43:44.039 --> 00:43:49.360
will have other things happen in their lives, just you know,

661
00:43:49.360 --> 00:43:53.719
maybe weird things, stuff that might be considered paranormal. Did

662
00:43:53.760 --> 00:43:57.199
you have to deal with other things that potentially could

663
00:43:57.239 --> 00:44:01.079
have been related to what happened to you as a teen?

664
00:44:02.719 --> 00:44:07.199
Yes, I'm good, but you're gonna You're gonna think I'm nuts.

665
00:44:07.320 --> 00:44:08.159
But I'm not nuts.

666
00:44:08.280 --> 00:44:09.280
You're not these.

667
00:44:09.840 --> 00:44:13.000
I can tell you three things that actually I would

668
00:44:13.079 --> 00:44:17.159
put my hand out of my woman test two. Okay,

669
00:44:19.320 --> 00:44:22.000
during one of my marriages. There have been a few.

670
00:44:22.639 --> 00:44:27.960
One came with a step daughter I had bought a

671
00:44:28.039 --> 00:44:34.079
nineteen oh two bungalow in Houston, Texas that I was redoing,

672
00:44:36.440 --> 00:44:37.400
and it was a two.

673
00:44:37.280 --> 00:44:39.119
Bedroom from one back.

674
00:44:41.079 --> 00:44:45.320
So my wife and my stepdaughter moving in and we're

675
00:44:45.400 --> 00:44:49.599
laying in bed one night, and my stepdaughter at that

676
00:44:49.639 --> 00:44:55.960
time was about seven, and she'd loved playing in the bathtub.

677
00:44:57.599 --> 00:44:59.639
And I have one of those old cloth for bathtubs.

678
00:44:59.719 --> 00:45:03.679
I mean it was like a lake, right, And so

679
00:45:03.719 --> 00:45:06.679
we're laying there trying to fall asleep, and we hear

680
00:45:06.719 --> 00:45:13.480
the shower go on. And my wife rolled over and

681
00:45:13.480 --> 00:45:17.079
looked at me and said, you go do it, you know,

682
00:45:17.320 --> 00:45:18.719
go tell Mason to go back to.

683
00:45:18.679 --> 00:45:22.320
Bed, Begs, so society will be right back after these messages.

684
00:45:41.159 --> 00:45:44.440
And I said, all right. So I get out of

685
00:45:44.440 --> 00:45:49.719
bed and I go into this little hallway where the

686
00:45:49.760 --> 00:45:55.960
bathrooms and the bedroom's all emptied down too, and the

687
00:45:56.079 --> 00:45:59.559
door to the bathroom was open, and there was no lighter.

688
00:46:01.800 --> 00:46:03.440
And as soon as they got in bed the shower,

689
00:46:04.280 --> 00:46:08.719
the shower stopped. And I went in here that shower.

690
00:46:08.840 --> 00:46:12.760
There was nothing there, I mean, there was no water,

691
00:46:12.960 --> 00:46:18.679
no nothing. And I looked at the Madison's room and

692
00:46:19.159 --> 00:46:24.880
she was asleep. And I got back into bed and

693
00:46:24.920 --> 00:46:27.960
my wife said, what was that? And I said, we'll

694
00:46:27.960 --> 00:46:32.119
talk about it in the morning. But I was creeped

695
00:46:32.119 --> 00:46:36.880
out right, and I told her in the morning, and

696
00:46:36.880 --> 00:46:40.599
she said, well, let's not mention this. And we're sitting

697
00:46:40.599 --> 00:46:43.440
there having breakfast as my daughter's getting ready to go

698
00:46:43.519 --> 00:46:49.280
to school, and she said, Josh, why were you guys

699
00:46:49.280 --> 00:46:54.800
thinking a shower so late? So she heard it right,

700
00:46:55.760 --> 00:46:57.760
and my wife and I just looked at each other

701
00:46:57.880 --> 00:47:02.119
and said, I don't remember what we exactly said. So

702
00:47:02.159 --> 00:47:06.519
that's one, all right. The second one I will test

703
00:47:06.559 --> 00:47:09.559
to and lay put my hand on the Bible is

704
00:47:09.599 --> 00:47:12.159
we had some friends. Then we went out to the

705
00:47:12.159 --> 00:47:16.280
house and they lived on in the country, and this

706
00:47:16.320 --> 00:47:21.039
guy had prosthetic legs, and so we're out in the

707
00:47:21.119 --> 00:47:26.599
backyard around the big fire pit and they behind the garage.

708
00:47:26.719 --> 00:47:30.480
They had a dog run and they had a black

709
00:47:30.559 --> 00:47:33.639
lad and the dog run, the dog rover was maybe

710
00:47:33.840 --> 00:47:38.000
twenty yards from us. So it's time to go home.

711
00:47:38.559 --> 00:47:41.800
We weren't doing anything else, but we were just having

712
00:47:41.760 --> 00:47:45.039
to bes and I had fun. And I stand up

713
00:47:45.039 --> 00:47:47.559
and my wife stands up next to me to leave,

714
00:47:48.039 --> 00:47:50.119
and they stand up. They're across from us on a

715
00:47:50.159 --> 00:47:53.320
fire pit, and I looked down to the right, and

716
00:47:53.360 --> 00:48:01.039
there's a golden retriever and I said, this guy's name,

717
00:48:01.119 --> 00:48:05.840
I said, I didn't I didn't see the golden retriever

718
00:48:05.960 --> 00:48:07.559
and the dog riding, and he goes, we're going with

719
00:48:07.639 --> 00:48:11.000
t we don't have a golden retriever, And I said,

720
00:48:11.079 --> 00:48:17.840
you have one sitting right behind you. And my wife said,

721
00:48:18.480 --> 00:48:21.360
I saw it, and I said we had a golden retriever.

722
00:48:21.440 --> 00:48:21.960
It ran away.

723
00:48:22.000 --> 00:48:26.960
We just assumed and died. Swear to God, man, there

724
00:48:27.039 --> 00:48:29.719
was a golden tree standing behether, and this guy's got

725
00:48:29.920 --> 00:48:32.280
so angry with me. He never talked to us again

726
00:48:34.159 --> 00:48:36.920
because I insisted that there was a golden There was

727
00:48:36.960 --> 00:48:43.800
a gold retriever sitting behind these people. Swear to God.

728
00:48:44.119 --> 00:48:51.119
So the nineteen o two house, So this is in

729
00:48:51.199 --> 00:48:53.760
an area called the Heights in Houston, which was the

730
00:48:53.840 --> 00:48:57.159
original suburbs of the Heights, since maybe a mile or

731
00:48:57.239 --> 00:49:02.000
two from downtown at that time. In this house, a

732
00:49:02.039 --> 00:49:07.360
particular house that I had was the original model home

733
00:49:08.840 --> 00:49:14.800
for a guy that developed about two or three blocks

734
00:49:15.159 --> 00:49:18.719
in that area, and all the houses were bungalows, you know,

735
00:49:19.559 --> 00:49:27.519
small homes. And I walked out of my kitchen into

736
00:49:27.559 --> 00:49:30.239
the living room or the dining room. I turned into

737
00:49:30.280 --> 00:49:34.679
a TV room and looked to my right and there

738
00:49:34.760 --> 00:49:41.360
was this guy sitting in one of my chairs and

739
00:49:41.440 --> 00:49:45.559
he had a wife Peter T shirt on, bald head,

740
00:49:47.039 --> 00:49:50.480
slumped into the chair, looking down at the floor. I

741
00:49:50.519 --> 00:49:54.880
saw that. I mean, I was dead, sobber and my

742
00:49:54.920 --> 00:49:57.559
wife is Helme, and I said, you're not going to

743
00:49:57.639 --> 00:50:03.639
believe what I just saw. And then I went across

744
00:50:03.679 --> 00:50:08.000
the street the next day. That's a neighbor who had

745
00:50:08.039 --> 00:50:10.920
lived in that place, in that in that house, in

746
00:50:10.960 --> 00:50:16.679
that neighborhood her entire life. And I asked her, I said,

747
00:50:16.920 --> 00:50:21.559
have you ever heard of my house as homed? And

748
00:50:21.639 --> 00:50:23.320
she kind of looked at me and she said, why

749
00:50:23.360 --> 00:50:26.039
what did you see? And I said, I explained to her,

750
00:50:26.039 --> 00:50:29.360
and she said, well, that sounds like mister Scolefono or

751
00:50:29.559 --> 00:50:35.599
wherever he was that, you know, built a house. And

752
00:50:35.639 --> 00:50:42.119
I said really and she was like, yeah, so I

753
00:50:42.159 --> 00:50:42.519
don't know.

754
00:50:42.960 --> 00:50:47.440
I'm just saying the interesting thing about those stories is

755
00:50:47.480 --> 00:50:51.559
in that two of them you had another person by

756
00:50:51.599 --> 00:50:57.239
yourself that experienced the strange event, which is very interesting.

757
00:50:58.760 --> 00:51:04.280
Yeah, well, my acts definitely on two of them. And

758
00:51:04.320 --> 00:51:08.920
then she didn't see the apparition in the living room.

759
00:51:09.440 --> 00:51:13.199
We would be sitting there watching television, all of us

760
00:51:13.280 --> 00:51:19.320
on the sofa, and she would say, do you smell that?

761
00:51:20.320 --> 00:51:23.599
And I'm like what, because she goes, it smells like

762
00:51:23.679 --> 00:51:29.360
stinky socks and cigars, and I'm like, what, you know,

763
00:51:29.519 --> 00:51:33.679
you think about it? Yeah, I sure did, it sure did,

764
00:51:34.159 --> 00:51:37.800
and it just which I guess the guys smelled cigars.

765
00:51:38.119 --> 00:51:41.239
I don't know, could have been I don't know. I'm

766
00:51:41.239 --> 00:51:46.719
just like I said, that's something that you know until

767
00:51:46.760 --> 00:51:49.920
you see it. I was very skeptical about all that,

768
00:51:50.559 --> 00:51:51.960
but not after that.

769
00:51:56.039 --> 00:51:58.559
I'm if personally. I've been.

770
00:52:00.079 --> 00:52:03.960
Working over a theory for may a year or so

771
00:52:04.159 --> 00:52:06.880
now where I think that if you come into contact

772
00:52:06.960 --> 00:52:11.000
with one of you know, a big foot, you're in

773
00:52:11.039 --> 00:52:13.000
the same area, it kind of opens you up to

774
00:52:13.119 --> 00:52:16.400
other stuff. And I think that, you know, it sounds

775
00:52:16.800 --> 00:52:19.039
it sounds kind of crazy saying it, but I think

776
00:52:19.079 --> 00:52:22.039
that there's something there and we just don't understand how

777
00:52:22.039 --> 00:52:23.400
it works science wise.

778
00:52:24.599 --> 00:52:27.559
Well, I've had two times in my life where I've

779
00:52:27.599 --> 00:52:34.239
heard somebody called my name and when I've so. The

780
00:52:34.280 --> 00:52:38.239
first time happened when I was in my early twenties,

781
00:52:39.360 --> 00:52:44.920
my first wife. I was at home and I heard

782
00:52:45.480 --> 00:52:51.800
somebody say, Jeff, I ignored it, Jeff, I ignored it.

783
00:52:52.320 --> 00:52:56.000
In finally that who does that sound like? And I said,

784
00:52:56.039 --> 00:52:58.639
it sounds like my wife? So I called her at

785
00:52:58.679 --> 00:53:02.119
work and it was pouring down ring and there was

786
00:53:02.239 --> 00:53:05.719
brain coming in the back of her building, her office,

787
00:53:06.599 --> 00:53:08.079
and she was there by herself.

788
00:53:09.599 --> 00:53:10.880
She was the and I secretary.

789
00:53:11.000 --> 00:53:16.559
She's an agent there and she said, come right away,

790
00:53:16.719 --> 00:53:20.039
I need your help on the phone. So I went.

791
00:53:21.760 --> 00:53:23.480
The next time that happened.

792
00:53:24.480 --> 00:53:31.199
Was thirty years later, and I was in Houston and

793
00:53:31.239 --> 00:53:40.000
I heard Jeff nothing, Jeff nothing, and I thought, who

794
00:53:40.000 --> 00:53:42.119
does that sound like? And it sounds like my mother.

795
00:53:44.599 --> 00:53:49.960
But she lived in Florida. So I called her. I said,

796
00:53:49.960 --> 00:53:54.079
are you okay? And she said, the imminence is on

797
00:53:54.159 --> 00:54:00.679
the way. I think I'm having a heart attack. And said, well,

798
00:54:02.199 --> 00:54:03.920
don't be on the phone, get off the phone and

799
00:54:04.000 --> 00:54:06.119
just lay down and wait for them. I can hear

800
00:54:06.159 --> 00:54:09.960
the end what's coming. And I said, I'll call one

801
00:54:10.000 --> 00:54:11.800
of the neighbors later to find out how you are.

802
00:54:13.599 --> 00:54:16.239
And so that was the second time. But those two,

803
00:54:16.639 --> 00:54:18.599
those two things have happened to me. That's the only

804
00:54:21.960 --> 00:54:25.880
things that psychic things type things you know, I guess

805
00:54:25.880 --> 00:54:30.159
you call them man, but those two are true, absolutely true.

806
00:54:30.800 --> 00:54:34.239
That's a that's a fascinating things. I think we definitely

807
00:54:34.239 --> 00:54:37.639
need to be aware. If people were more aware of

808
00:54:37.639 --> 00:54:40.880
what's going on around them to their senses, they would

809
00:54:40.880 --> 00:54:44.480
probably be surprised of what might what might be happening.

810
00:54:44.519 --> 00:54:50.599
But Jeff has been just an extremely interesting conversation. Thank

811
00:54:50.639 --> 00:54:54.320
you for sharing what you went through more than fifty

812
00:54:54.400 --> 00:54:56.760
years ago, and I'm glad you were able to get

813
00:54:57.039 --> 00:55:01.280
your account out there finally too, you know, to get

814
00:55:01.280 --> 00:55:04.039
that off your chest, as people like to say. But

815
00:55:04.320 --> 00:55:07.280
if anything else you know, does happen down the road,

816
00:55:07.480 --> 00:55:10.199
you know, always feel free to reach out. But thank

817
00:55:10.239 --> 00:55:11.639
you so much for coming on the show.

818
00:55:11.480 --> 00:55:22.000
Today, Jem, You're welcome. Thank you, Yes, sir, all right, goodbye.

819
00:55:23.679 --> 00:55:25.440
Just wanted to take a few minutes to say thank

820
00:55:25.480 --> 00:55:29.760
you to you all my listeners for listening to the podcast.

821
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had a bigfoot encounter related to the following or know

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Here's the list.

832
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Number one encounters from Franklin County, Texas. Number two encounters

833
00:56:11.519 --> 00:56:15.480
from the entire state of Iowa. Number three encounters from Oakridge,

834
00:56:15.480 --> 00:56:19.239
Oregon or the surrounding area. Number four, any individuals that

835
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know about bigfoot being flown off after the Mount Saint

836
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Helens eruption. Number five. Individuals that have had a bigfoot

837
00:56:25.559 --> 00:56:29.320
encounter while in the military. Number six those that have

838
00:56:29.360 --> 00:56:32.280
had a bigfoot encounter in the southern New Hampshire or

839
00:56:32.519 --> 00:56:37.440
north central Massachusetts area, including Franklin County, Massachusetts. Number seven

840
00:56:37.480 --> 00:56:39.719
individuals that have had a bigfoot encounter in a Bible

841
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camp or boy Scout camp setting. Number eight individuals that

842
00:56:43.480 --> 00:56:45.880
have had bigfoot try to enter their house forcibly while

843
00:56:45.880 --> 00:56:50.039
they were living inside. Number nine individuals that have actively

844
00:56:50.159 --> 00:56:54.400
have a bigfoot living on their property. And lastly, any

845
00:56:54.440 --> 00:56:57.800
sightings that are in the Watchitaw National Forest area of

846
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Oklahoma or are Kansas. A special thank you to all

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