Aug. 2, 2025

We Found the Nursery. And They Knew We Did. | Yosemite National Park

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Season 1

What happens when a group of kids on horseback stumble into a hidden meadow deep in the Sierra Nevadas — and realize they’re not alone? In this gripping episode, we speak with Loadmaster, a veteran who shares a chilling childhood encounter from the backwoods just south of Yosemite National Park. Snapped pine trees. A smell worse than death. Horses panicking beneath them. And the realization — confirmed by Native Me-Wuk elders — that they had crossed into forbidden territory.

Loadmaster recounts a terrifying moment etched into his memory for over 50 years, where the forest itself seemed to push them back. You’ll hear how journals from the 1800s spoke of “hairy men” destroying mining equipment, and why locals still avoid those uncharted hills to this day. From stories of juvenile Sasquatch sightings to tales of entire families migrating through lightning storms, this episode uncovers a side of Yosemite few have ever heard — and most are wise enough to leave alone.

But the mystery doesn’t stop there.

You’ll also hear from a woman who saw a Bigfoot from the window of a moving train in Canada at just 13 years old… a truck driver whose early-morning route through Illinois brought him face to face with something massive by the road… a camper in Northern California who heard heavy footsteps circling his tent all night… and a quiet stretch of river in South Carolina where something huge came walking out of the water.These aren’t just backwoods legends. They’re warnings.

And some places… you only find once.

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Welcome to big for Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. Tonight's

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episode is a continuation of some recent interviews I've done

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over on the TikTok platform. These are raw and very

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much unexpected there from all corners of the US and

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all corners of the world, things that we really haven't

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broached yet in the topic of Bigfoot, so pretty intense.

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Buckle up for these ones. I think you're really going

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to enjoy them, and again, listen with an open mind.

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Enjoy.

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Hey, Kelly, how are you?

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I'm good?

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How are you awesome?

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Did you have an encounters to share?

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Yes?

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Actually I just wanted to pop on real quick because

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this is something that so basically I was in Canada

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and I was.

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Certain Sorry, before we get going, Kelly, is it possible

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if I could use this audio for my podcast at all?

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Or is this soft record?

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Oh it's fine, Yeah, absolutely, that's.

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Okay to use that. All right, feel free to go ahead.

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Okay.

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So I was thirteen years old and I was in Canada,

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and I was with my uncle, my aunt and my cousin,

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and we were on a train and there was we

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were going through like there was a lot of like

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trees it was a very wooded area and I looked

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down and I saw a bigfoot like walking like it.

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I mean, to this day, I am forty nine years old.

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I remember every detail. I can still see it exactly

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how it happened. I was terrified at like once I

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saw this, you know, I started screaming and I was like,

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oh my gosh, you know, because I was younger, and

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I'm thinking there's a monster out there, but absolutely walking

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standing up.

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In the woods.

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I saw it for several like seconds as we were

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going by, so I could see exactly, like you know,

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I knew what I was looking at. But yeah, my

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whole entire family, they all know about this story because

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I've never stopped talking about it.

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And yeah, that's basically what happened.

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So you said this happened in Canada. Was it a

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certain area in Canada?

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You know, I've not. I've not gone back to, like,

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you know, ask my uncle, like get the details of

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exactly where we were, which I could. I could find

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out and just ask him. But that's that's what I remember.

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My uncle got married, we were on I went with

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my cousin and him and his wife. They were on

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their honeymoon. So they took us with them. It was

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like a family trip.

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And yeah, but other people saw it as well.

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No, it was just me, okay, wow.

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Very interesting. Do you remember anything about the way the

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way it moved when it was walking? Did it have

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a certain gate it all?

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You could tell when it was walking just it almost

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seemed like it was because obviously we were up off

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the ground, but it was still like close enough to

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where when I looked down to see it, it was

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it almost had like a heaviness to the walk. I

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guess you can say maybe like if you could think

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of a more heavy set person when they walk versus

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someone who's you know, less heavy. But you could just

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tell it was just kind of swaying. But absolutely, without

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a doubt, never forgot it. I can still see it

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when I closed my eyes. Like I said, I was,

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I was terrified. I was very scared when I saw

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that because I was old enough to know, you know

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what I mean, Like I was thirteen, I wasn't like

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a child, so I was old enough to.

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Know what I saw. Absolutely Yeah, and it stuck with

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me till this day.

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Were you able to see if it was a certain

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color at all?

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It was definitely very dark brown, very dark brown, not

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a light color like just like a very dark brown

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to black for sure. And I mean it literally looked

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like a huge like you know, ape like walking like

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when you look down, like that's exactly what I saw.

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How far away from you would you estimate it it

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was when you were on the train.

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I remember looking down and we were like above the trees. Again,

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I don't know the specific distance, but like when I

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look down, you could see like the top of the trees.

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We were above the trees where we were, but there

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was the trees were not as thick, so you could

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still see, like you know, at the area where it

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was walking. But I saw it. It was clear as day.

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It was just staring like ahead. It didn't seem like

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this train affected it like you know.

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But yeah, so could you see any details of the

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face from the viewpoint that you had.

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I would say not so much.

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But when I looked down and I saw it, I

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mean you could just tell like if you were to

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see like an ape like from a long distance, like

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that's what I saw, but like it was fully like

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hair like top.

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To bottom like not us, you know. And but yes,

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I mean.

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I saw and I do remember like as it was walking,

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like you know, the arms were just moving, but it

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just seemed like it was just shifting like side to side,

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like a heaviness to it.

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But yeah, that's that's very very interesting. Were you able

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to see a shape to the head at all, I.

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Would say kind of similar to this picture you have

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behind you. You you know, the head was big enough

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to where again I can't say too much of the

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details of the actual face, but it has like the

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kind of head that's sort of behind you, like like

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that much hair on it, you know, like when you

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look down you see this, it's like in the middle

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of nowhere, and you just know.

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That that's.

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Absolutely And thank you so much for answering all my questions.

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I have just one more, and I appreciate you hanging

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out up here for a bit. What would you say,

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is there one detail that stuck out that made you think, Okay,

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what I'm looking at right now is definitely a big foot.

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I think for me was that as soon as I

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saw it, I recognized that like what it was, meaning

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that I was instantly like like terrified, like I was

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very scared, you know, and and I and I've I've

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always you know, I've I've watched scary movies before, They've

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never really affected me, like you know, when I was

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younger and stuff like that. But when I looked down

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and I saw this thing, it was almost like I

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always heard of a bigfoot, you know what I mean,

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But I never, you know, did research on it. I

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wasn't involved in it like when I was younger anything

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like that. But when I saw it, I knew exactly

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what it was. I started, you know, I was. I

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watched it for at least I would say five seconds,

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five to seven seconds, like I mean, and it was

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walking like just through the woods. And you know, sometimes

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I laugh with my uncle, you know, to this day. Again,

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this was when I was thirteen. I'm forty nine now,

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and I tell him, like, you remember when I saw Bigfoot,

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and he's like, oh my gosh, I wouldn't stop talking

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about it for days, you know me. But but yeah,

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that was my instinct. It was like when I saw it,

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it was it was instantly. It was instantly like I

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knew what it was, you know what I mean. It

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was like it was as good as I saw it.

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There was just absolutely there was nothing else, like one

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hundred percent.

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But yeah, wow, Kelly, thank you for coming up, but

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I appreciate you sharing what you saw that day and

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for providing some additional insight into what you experienced. I

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greatly appreciate it.

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Yes, thank you for having me. I've appreciate it being

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able to share that.

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Let's see, we've got Gary wanting to come up.

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Hi.

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Gary, how are you.

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All right? How's it going? Can you hear me?

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Yes?

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Sir? Yes, sir? And were you wanting to come up

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to share about a big funen counter? You said?

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I just wanted to say thank you. You actually did

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my video last year in October. I'm the trunk driver

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that saw big Foot in Peoria, Illinois.

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Oh yeah, totally.

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Yeah. I just wanted to let you know that I'm

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still the Bigfoot guy. I'm Central Illinois and it's it's

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been a blast. I always get questions asked, and a

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lot of a lot of them I can't answer. But yeah,

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it's just been a blast, and it's gotten to the

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point where I want to see him again. But the

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thing scared me so much. I don't want to see it.

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He's like, I want to see it, but I don't

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want to see it.

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And then Gary, real quick, are you okay if I

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use this audio for my podcast. Oh yeah, okay, great,

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thank you. So while so you are the individual that

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saw get wild truck driving. That is so cool man.

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Yeah yeah, and you did my video and uh we

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got over a million views on that thing. And it's just, uh,

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I'm still you know, the bigfoot guy of Peoria. And

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it's just it's been it's been crazy, that's all I said.

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I was, yeah, yeah, I'm just gonna tell the story.

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I was working early morning shift. It was about five

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forty five. I was headed to a town called Canton

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and we have this little wooded area called Benner Marsh

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and uh, it was pretty dark. Like I said, it

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was October, so it was still pretty dark around that time.

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Uh I'm going, you know, like I said, towards Campon

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and over to the left in the wooded area. It's

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this thing standing on side of the road. But I

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didn't notice it until I got directly up on it.

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And uh yeah. The whole encounter was about five seconds.

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I passed the thing right by. I believe I kind

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of startled it a little bit because I was he

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looked like he was getting ready to cross the street

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as I was approaching uh and yeah, the crazy part

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about it is we have cameras in our trucks and

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the company would not give me the camera the video

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for it for nothing. But I remember, yeah, man money

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Baker brought me a camera and then the company bandoned

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me from putting the camera on the truck. We have

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cameras in our truck. And I'm pretty sure you know

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it's weird because like even my boss when he talks

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to me. Now you know, our bosses out of Chicago

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a work in Peoria. But whenever I talked to him,

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he's like, hey, man, just he big foot again, like

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he's really intrigued about it. But they will not release

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this video to save my life. Yeah wow.

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That And do you do that route Austin.

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Yeah, I was. I was still on that same route

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until about a month ago. They finally took me off

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of it. But now I'm going even further now. So

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but yeah, ever since that day, it's like, you know,

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I'm looking for deer, I'm looking for bigfoot. I'm looking

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for deer. I'm looking for bigfoot. Because even after my story,

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there were I say, maybe five more stories just like mine,

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and some one saw you know, like Bigfoot tracks at

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the place called Wildlife Prairie Park. We have here, we

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have like a lot of land here, you know, a

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lot of yeah, like prairie land. And it's just yes.

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And whenever somebody brings up Bigfoot, you know, they always

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brings on my story and it's just been it's been

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a bland.

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So no, it absolutely, you know, it's one of those

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ones that is always going to be told about in

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the Peoria area. And it's just it's it's so so interesting.

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Do you remember any details about the creature that you

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saw across in front of you that day?

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He was getting ready to cross, and like I said,

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I didn't see him until I was right up on him.

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So the thing was so big. I'm sitting up on

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a on a twenty foot twenty twenty foot box truck,

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so I'm sitting up pretty high, and the thing was

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we were sitting about eyesight towards to each other. So

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I'm thinking this thing was at least eight feet tall,

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because I noticed his eyes. He had like glowing eyes,

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you know what I'm saying. He had like glowing eyes.

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And all I know is I can remember seeing the

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lower half of him really clear, and it was just

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like really dark brown, tangled fur. And as I'm looking,

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you know, I'm looking and I'm just I've never seen

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anything like that, so I couldn't wrap my mind around

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what it was. I'm sitting there thinking, like, what is that?

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What is that? I'm looking in the rear view mirror,

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and I just see these eyes just looking at me

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like you know, That's where I noticed the eyes was

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going and it just scared the you know what out

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of me. That's where I was going, and I freaked out.

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I told the ladies that I was delivering the mail

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to what I've seen, and everyone thought I was crazy

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until about two or three days later it was all

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over the news. I did radio shows.

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It was Yeah, it was huge. It's a really big deal.

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What color were the glowing eyes?

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They were like a dark yellow, Okay, yeah, it was

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like a dark yellow, but it was like reflective at

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the same time. I have no way, It's like, it's

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hard to explain because I've never seen anything like that, right,

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and it really it really did scare me.

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Did it remind you more of an eph type creature

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or something that was more human, something.

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That was more human? And you know, as I as

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I as I. Ever since that day, you know, I've

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been looking and researching. I was like, I'm just kind

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of very interested in it, and I believe these things

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are intelligent, and I believe they I believe they know

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exactly what they're doing. They know how to keep away

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from people. And I was thinking, like, how do they

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get around, you know, from one side of town to

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the other. And we have all these creaks around Peoria, Illinois.

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We have creaked from one end to the other end,

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so they could get They can pretty much get around

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under the text. So yeah, that thing is. It was

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really huge, so I would say at least like eight

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feet tall, and just me looking at the size of

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this thing's legs, I mean, I believe he could have

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if he wanted to, he could have kicked the truck

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over if I was standing still, or if I was parked,

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if he wanted to, he could have easily just tilted

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this thing like this dude huge.

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Yeah, so you could see could you see muscle under

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the hair?

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Then No, I didn't see muscle under the hair, but

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I can see just by the side of the legs.

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Like I said, I didn't see the thing until I

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was directly up on it. It was like if I

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if I didn't look up, if I was looking down

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on my computer or anything, I would have missed it.

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Because the whole thing five seconds, you know, it was

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just crazy. So I went to the company. I said, hey, man,

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I just saw something really crazy, and I gave them

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time and day. It's okay, Well we'll look at it

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for you. Oh we can't. We can't give you the video,

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the video. We can't pull the video up. Yeah yeah, yeah,

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yeah right, yeah crazy. It was crazy. Yeah, they couldn't

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get the video all of a sudden then. But yeah,

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every time I talk to my boss, hey man, did

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you see anything crazy? Did you witness anything crazy? Like, no, no,

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it's just but it's been a blast. Yeah.

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Would you do anything differently if you're able to have

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let's say you're driving your truck again, you have another sighting,

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would you do anything differently.

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If it's at the right time. Yeah, I've been looking.

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I've been hoping that I could actually see the thing

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and I could get out and record it with my

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phone or something like that, because I'm not allowed to

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have cameras on the truck now. So yeah, if I

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was to see it at a nice difference. Now, as

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close as I was up on the scene before, no,

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I would hit the gas. That's what I would do.

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I'm not gonna lie about that. I would take off.

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But if I can see him at a nice difference, yeah,

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I would love to record.

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This thing absolutely well. Well, I hope that maybe you'll

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you're you'll be able to get that chance again. I mean,

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there are so many truckers out there that have sightings

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that I've talked to. It is absolutely intense. But it

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doesn't make sense spending so much time on the road.

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But Gary is so good to talk to you again.

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Thank you so much for coming up and for sharing

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your story again.

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Yep, thank you, yes, sir, all right.

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Good stuff is good talking to Gary again. He's a

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cool story and you can look it up. I believe

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it's on the bf r L. Let's see ll Is here.

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What's up with ll? Hey? L? How are you hey?

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How's it going awesome?

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Did you have something to share, encounter anything like that?

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Yeah?

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Yeah, so I didn't see him, I didn't see him

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with my eyes, but I did have an encounter.

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I wanted to share it. That's awesome. Before we get started,

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do you mind if I potentially use this audio on

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my podcast.

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Yeah, go for it, man, no.

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Problem, all right, Yeah, feel free to share what you experienced.

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Yeah.

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So I live in northern California and there's you know,

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you know, surrounded by nothing but redwood trees in a

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forest as soon as you get out of town. So

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one of my one of my close friends, he's a

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Native American guy, told me a story a long time

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ago about seeing a seeing a sasquatch. Him and his

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whole family were up in the mountains and and his

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whole family saw this sasquatch up in the mountains in

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this particular area. But I can't name the area because

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it's like like a sacred like a special place to them.

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You know, I totally got you the exact area.

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But he said that they see in a sasquatch up

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there when they were young. But it wasn't just him,

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it was like his whole family saw it. And uh

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and so uh anyways, years years late, you know, he

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because that happened when he was like younger, like a kid,

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and but his whole family saw it. And then years

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later after I met him and everything, he told me

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the story and stuff, and so several years went by

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and my girlfriend at the time wanted to go camp

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up you know, pretty close to this same area, you know,

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and she wanted to go for a hike up there,

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you know. And she was real into the outdoors and

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hiking and stuff like that. So she got me to

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go with her up there, and and it's pretty much

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up in the middle of nowhere. It's high up in

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the mountains and it's one of the highest places around

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here actually from what I understand, elevation wise. But she

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got me to go up there, and there's nothing, there's

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nothing around up there. It's just like some old logging roads,

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you know, and you know, the pave the pavement actually stops,

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you know, and it just turns into gravel and old

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logging roads and and trails and stuff like that. So

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we went camping up there, and uh, and we picked

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this spot that it was like basically overlooking the valley,

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but it was like it's hard to explain, it was

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like sticking out and so it was like surrounded. It

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was like you could walk out on this little peninsula,

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almost like a peninsula sticking out where you were like

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surrounded by basically cliff on around all sides, you know.

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So it was like a peninsula sticking out, but it

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was overlooking the whole valley and it was covered with

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like a gravel. And so we ended up camping right

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there in that gravelly spot and throwing up our little

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tent there, and and then so we didn't want to

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have a fire. We didn't have a fire that night.

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We actually just put a little candle out and uh

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and had our little glasses of wine and our little

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meal there and went to bed and uh and we

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had both and she knew my friend too. We had

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both heard his story about seeing the bigfoot up there.

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But uh so we went to bed, you know, not

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not thinking anything of it. And then uh oh, and

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I should say earlier in the day we kept hearing

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sounds like but it would just sounded like, you know,

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like we figured it with some animal or something like.

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We kept hearing like, uh like when we first got

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there and we were setting up camp, we'd hear like,

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you know, gravel falling down the cliff over here, or

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some you know rustling of bushes over there, that kind

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of thing, you know, but nothing unusual, just like animal sounds,

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you know. And uh So anyway, we had our little

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uh glass of wine and meal and stuff and went

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to bed. And then like as soon as uh as

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soon as we got in our tent and got in

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our sleeping bags and went to bed, we start hearing

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these footsteps in the gravel, just like from from a

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distance off. But it sounded like like really heavy crunching sound,

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you know, because it was, like, like I said, it

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was all gravel, so it was just like crunch, crunch, crunch,

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you know, like really heavy footsteps, and the footsteps just

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start getting But there's nothing out there. There's no houses,

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there's no like campsites, there's just nothing.

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You know.

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We didn't see any other cars or camping or anybody

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out in the whole area. It's way up in the

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middle of nowhere in the mountains. And so we hear crunch, crunch, crunch,

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just getting closer and closer, but like just real slow steps,

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just one after the other one. And you could hear

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this just getting closer and closer and closer to our tent,

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and until the point where it sounded like whatever this

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was was like standing like right over us, because that's

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how close the footsteps got. And at that point, I'm

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like losing my shoes. I didn't know what this was.

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I'm thinking because it's like some like mass murderer standing

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over us with a gun or something like what's going

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on here?

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You know?

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It was just real creepy, you know, real creepy feeling,

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you know. And and I don't know going on. And

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my girlfriend, I don't know why she was so brave

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about it, because I'm like pee and my pants practically

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not saying anything, but just like frozen, you know. And uh,

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and actually I started praying, to be perfectly honest, I

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started praying because that sounded because something was standing over

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a tent, you know, in this dark, pitch black out

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middle of nowhere. And that's so I'm by the time

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I like stopped being frozen, I started praying, and she

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went over there and and like just ripped open the

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the fly and like popped her head out all like

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all in one motion. In the time it took her

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to just rip open the zipper like that fast as zoop,

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I heard this thing take two huge steps like crunch, crunch,

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and then a slide like I could see what it

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did in my head just from the sound it like

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slid on its knee, and it just so happened that

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there was like this, uh, because you gotta think I

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was freaking out, but she wasn't acting super scared. It

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was like she didn't It was almost like she didn't

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believe it, you know. But I was like freaking out,

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and so my senses were all like super heightened, you

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know what I'm saying. Like I was here listening to

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every little detail and just laying there silently, you know.

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And uh, and it sounded like just in that quick

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instant of her ripping open the fly, I heard I

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heard crunch crunch, and then like a slide on the ground,

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and she like ripped it open and popped her head

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out as quick as she possibly could, looked around and

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said she couldn't see anything. And then and she looked

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around for a minute or two. She didn't get out attend.

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She just like popped her head out, looked around, didn't

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see anything, waited a few seconds, and then closed it

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back up. And then right after she closed it up,

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we heard the crunch, crunch, crunch slowly. It didn't start

465
00:26:53.160 --> 00:26:55.839
right away like the second she zipped it up, but

466
00:26:55.960 --> 00:26:59.039
just like a couple minutes later, like as soon as

467
00:26:59.480 --> 00:27:01.839
like she's it up and then waited a couple of minutes,

468
00:27:01.880 --> 00:27:04.640
didn't hear nothing. Then I started listening again. You could

469
00:27:04.680 --> 00:27:07.599
hear that crunching sound slowly going away, going away, and

470
00:27:07.599 --> 00:27:12.079
going away. And I stayed awake all night worrying, like

471
00:27:12.119 --> 00:27:14.400
I couldn't I couldn't even go back to sleep after that,

472
00:27:14.960 --> 00:27:17.799
and uh, I think I maybe got a little finally

473
00:27:17.799 --> 00:27:19.680
fell asleep for maybe an hour or two early in

474
00:27:19.720 --> 00:27:22.440
the morning kind of thing. But she went to sleep again.

475
00:27:22.839 --> 00:27:25.519
And then the morning we got up, it looked and

476
00:27:25.559 --> 00:27:28.599
you could see these big old impressions in the gravel.

477
00:27:30.000 --> 00:27:32.680
They were it wasn't like mud, you know, it was gravel,

478
00:27:32.759 --> 00:27:36.039
so like it wasn't a super clear footprint, but you

479
00:27:36.079 --> 00:27:39.759
could see these big flat press impressions still, you know

480
00:27:39.839 --> 00:27:42.160
that were like bigger, way bigger than my foot, you know,

481
00:27:42.880 --> 00:27:46.119
in the gravel. And so we I followed those back

482
00:27:46.480 --> 00:27:49.000
and you could see the slide mark, and it just

483
00:27:49.039 --> 00:27:52.119
so happened to be, uh, there was this rock pile.

484
00:27:52.559 --> 00:27:54.400
Uh like it was kind of like they were doing

485
00:27:54.440 --> 00:27:56.680
some rock quarrying up there at one time, maybe from

486
00:27:56.759 --> 00:28:00.279
the road or something. But uh, but there was like

487
00:28:00.319 --> 00:28:03.359
this big pile of rocks that was fairly near our tent.

488
00:28:04.000 --> 00:28:06.960
And the slidemark was like right behind it, like like

489
00:28:07.039 --> 00:28:09.880
whatever this thing was had tookn a couple huge steps

490
00:28:10.200 --> 00:28:12.680
and slid on the ground like right and got in

491
00:28:12.680 --> 00:28:16.000
a position right behind this rock pile. And then uh,

492
00:28:16.039 --> 00:28:18.240
and so that was it. But it was up in

493
00:28:18.279 --> 00:28:21.160
that exact area where my friend said his whole family

494
00:28:21.160 --> 00:28:23.559
saw that big foot. And then like we went for

495
00:28:23.640 --> 00:28:29.160
a hike that day and and this part I still

496
00:28:29.200 --> 00:28:30.880
to this day, I'm not sure if it was just

497
00:28:30.920 --> 00:28:33.200
if it was just in my imagination. Could I even

498
00:28:33.240 --> 00:28:36.960
see that again or what. But like when we got

499
00:28:37.200 --> 00:28:40.599
like after hiking for maybe like I don't know, an hour,

500
00:28:40.720 --> 00:28:43.680
a half hour or something, we looked back to the

501
00:28:43.799 --> 00:28:47.559
area that we had been camping, you know, because there

502
00:28:47.599 --> 00:28:52.880
was like this big open rock face like overlooking where

503
00:28:52.880 --> 00:28:55.319
we were camping on this little peninsula. So it was

504
00:28:55.359 --> 00:28:58.079
like up above where we are camping, like right directly

505
00:28:58.119 --> 00:29:01.000
above it. And I don't know if it was just

506
00:29:01.039 --> 00:29:04.160
the perfect lighting. I think if you didn't see it

507
00:29:04.200 --> 00:29:05.880
at the right time of day, you wouldn't see it,

508
00:29:05.920 --> 00:29:09.039
you know, But from the way the sun was hitting

509
00:29:09.079 --> 00:29:12.200
that rock formation right above where we were camping, it

510
00:29:12.400 --> 00:29:15.000
just like a looked like a full on bigfoot head

511
00:29:15.039 --> 00:29:19.039
and shoulders, big old brow ridge and just like a bust,

512
00:29:19.160 --> 00:29:22.319
you know, like head and shoulders overlooking the whole area

513
00:29:22.400 --> 00:29:25.759
where we were camping right there. Like it had the lips,

514
00:29:25.839 --> 00:29:29.720
the nose, the big old brow ridge, the shoulders, no neck,

515
00:29:29.799 --> 00:29:31.799
you know what I'm saying. It just looked like a

516
00:29:31.799 --> 00:29:34.480
perfect bigfoot bust. And I don't know if it was

517
00:29:34.559 --> 00:29:36.480
just the you know, it had to be just the

518
00:29:36.480 --> 00:29:38.680
way the light was hitting it just perfectly, you know

519
00:29:38.720 --> 00:29:41.839
what I mean. It makes me want to kind of

520
00:29:41.880 --> 00:29:43.359
go back there just to see if I could get

521
00:29:43.359 --> 00:29:45.160
a picture of that the right time of day, you

522
00:29:45.200 --> 00:29:45.680
know what I mean.

523
00:29:46.759 --> 00:29:46.880
Oh?

524
00:29:47.079 --> 00:29:48.200
Yeah, I mean that was it.

525
00:29:48.319 --> 00:29:48.480
Man.

526
00:29:48.480 --> 00:29:49.400
It freaked me out.

527
00:29:49.440 --> 00:29:49.640
Man.

528
00:29:50.000 --> 00:29:50.279
Wow.

529
00:29:50.799 --> 00:29:55.920
Man, it's stories like that where it just feels like,

530
00:29:57.000 --> 00:29:59.359
you know, your heart's gonna come out of your chest

531
00:29:59.359 --> 00:30:02.160
when you're in this situation like that. And I mean,

532
00:30:03.480 --> 00:30:06.440
good on you for making it through. I can't imagine

533
00:30:06.480 --> 00:30:09.759
going through something like that knowing that whatever it was

534
00:30:09.759 --> 00:30:11.400
was right above your tent.

535
00:30:12.200 --> 00:30:15.880
Yeah wild wild Yeah. Man, I was freaking out.

536
00:30:15.960 --> 00:30:16.119
Man.

537
00:30:16.200 --> 00:30:20.960
I don't know how she wasn't so scared like I was.

538
00:30:21.279 --> 00:30:24.279
She didn't seem like she held it against me or nothing. Man,

539
00:30:24.319 --> 00:30:26.960
she was cool, but I just I don't know, man,

540
00:30:27.599 --> 00:30:30.680
I was like, sounds like why were you scared?

541
00:30:33.359 --> 00:30:35.279
It would be interesting if you go to a website

542
00:30:35.319 --> 00:30:38.759
like bigfootmap dot com, the big Foot Mapping Project and

543
00:30:38.920 --> 00:30:41.039
find the area that you were at see if there's

544
00:30:41.079 --> 00:30:44.440
any like sightings or anything nearby, because I know you're

545
00:30:44.480 --> 00:30:47.480
saying that you can't really mention the area because it

546
00:30:47.559 --> 00:30:50.960
is as it's pretty held sacred.

547
00:30:52.000 --> 00:30:56.440
Well, there's there's bigfoot sitans all over that whole area

548
00:30:56.480 --> 00:30:58.960
and my whole area in general, you know, because I'm

549
00:30:59.039 --> 00:31:02.119
up here at Northern Cala, so we're right by Trinity

550
00:31:02.200 --> 00:31:06.400
County and you know, up there by the reservation, that

551
00:31:06.480 --> 00:31:10.079
whole area, like you know, there's they have tons of

552
00:31:10.079 --> 00:31:11.279
big foot sidings, you know.

553
00:31:11.359 --> 00:31:14.319
Oh sure, sure, yeah, that whole that whole area is

554
00:31:14.319 --> 00:31:17.319
is crazy. I think we're thinking of the same area.

555
00:31:17.880 --> 00:31:21.359
But man, ll thank you so much for coming, for

556
00:31:21.440 --> 00:31:25.279
coming up. Keep me in mind if anything else happens,

557
00:31:25.359 --> 00:31:27.359
or if you're able to, you know, try to get

558
00:31:27.359 --> 00:31:30.279
back to that area and take a picture and do

559
00:31:30.279 --> 00:31:32.319
you see something that looks like a bigfoot? That would

560
00:31:32.319 --> 00:31:35.599
be kind of cool area. But yeah, you can always

561
00:31:35.680 --> 00:31:38.720
contact me at a Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com.

562
00:31:38.720 --> 00:31:40.559
But it's been a pleasure chatting with you tonight.

563
00:31:40.920 --> 00:31:44.319
Yeah, okay, thanks man, sounds good. One other thing is,

564
00:31:44.359 --> 00:31:48.200
like I've heard stories from some of my other native

565
00:31:48.240 --> 00:31:51.799
friends that have Okay, they've said, like I don't want

566
00:31:51.799 --> 00:31:54.480
to slaughter their their story, but I've heard things like,

567
00:31:55.000 --> 00:31:58.839
you know, hundreds maybe thousands of years ago, they'd said

568
00:31:58.920 --> 00:32:02.039
like they would actually come mount and participate in ceremonies

569
00:32:02.079 --> 00:32:04.759
with the people and like dance and things like that.

570
00:32:06.680 --> 00:32:10.319
If I remember right, something they said, something happened, there

571
00:32:10.400 --> 00:32:12.960
was some event happened, and then they went into hiding

572
00:32:13.119 --> 00:32:15.279
kind of thing. And then the other thing I was

573
00:32:15.319 --> 00:32:18.440
going to mention is I've heard that they have some

574
00:32:18.519 --> 00:32:21.559
type of like earth magic that they like, some actual

575
00:32:22.160 --> 00:32:24.960
magic they're able to use to like camouflage themselves.

576
00:32:25.119 --> 00:32:29.720
You know, that's extremely interesting. I can tell you. I've

577
00:32:29.759 --> 00:32:33.640
interviewed a few what used to be considered medicine, man,

578
00:32:33.799 --> 00:32:39.359
they're called something different now. But one from well, let's

579
00:32:39.400 --> 00:32:43.119
just say, different tribes across the US, and both of

580
00:32:43.160 --> 00:32:47.960
them as well had stories about there are certain ceremonies

581
00:32:48.839 --> 00:32:53.039
and usually when they're performing their ceremonies, they will see

582
00:32:53.079 --> 00:32:58.599
a sasquatch on the edge of the ceremony that involves drums.

583
00:32:59.200 --> 00:33:02.960
Is very very interesting. I haven't heard the second thing

584
00:33:03.079 --> 00:33:05.960
that you've mentioned there, but you know, I really heard

585
00:33:05.960 --> 00:33:09.720
some interesting things over the years. I remember talking to

586
00:33:09.759 --> 00:33:12.559
an individual his name was Henry Franzoni, who's no longer

587
00:33:12.599 --> 00:33:16.279
with us, but he had told me in an interview

588
00:33:16.319 --> 00:33:21.519
that the Native Americans in his area of the Pacific Northwest,

589
00:33:21.799 --> 00:33:24.920
they would actually say that the sasquatch were able to

590
00:33:25.279 --> 00:33:29.359
control the movements of your body, and they could even

591
00:33:29.400 --> 00:33:33.799
control you to lock off a cliff if they wanted to.

592
00:33:34.640 --> 00:33:38.640
Very very interesting stuff when you bring the Native American

593
00:33:39.200 --> 00:33:42.200
side into things, and I think there's a lot that

594
00:33:42.240 --> 00:33:46.200
we can learn from passed down oral traditions for sure.

595
00:33:46.400 --> 00:33:47.720
Thank you for sharing that.

596
00:33:48.039 --> 00:33:50.240
Yeah, yeah, man, they're supposed to have some type of

597
00:33:50.720 --> 00:33:53.640
some type of like spiritual powers or something that allows

598
00:33:53.680 --> 00:33:56.000
them to do that kind of stuff. I don't know.

599
00:33:56.079 --> 00:33:58.000
That's what I've heard too, So thanks.

600
00:33:57.920 --> 00:34:01.319
Absolutely, Yes, sir. Well, maybe we'll talk again someday. But

601
00:34:01.359 --> 00:34:06.640
I have a good one man, you too, Benfica wants

602
00:34:06.680 --> 00:34:14.440
to come up and share here. It looks like, how's

603
00:34:14.480 --> 00:34:19.400
it going. It's going good. Did you have an experience

604
00:34:19.440 --> 00:34:20.159
you'd like to share?

605
00:34:23.440 --> 00:34:24.159
No, I was.

606
00:34:24.400 --> 00:34:28.000
I was going down the road on the highway and

607
00:34:28.159 --> 00:34:32.000
with my mother, okay, and she she was driving. My

608
00:34:32.159 --> 00:34:35.159
mother's driving, and I have a lift across the wall

609
00:34:35.239 --> 00:34:39.599
we river in South Carolina, the war Weed River, and

610
00:34:39.800 --> 00:34:42.280
I throw the bigfoot.

611
00:34:42.760 --> 00:34:43.079
I'll bed.

612
00:34:43.400 --> 00:34:47.320
He was humongous getting come from the water, going back

613
00:34:47.360 --> 00:34:48.159
into the woods.

614
00:34:49.679 --> 00:34:53.320
I said, Mama, that's a bigfoot. That's a bigfoot. And

615
00:34:53.320 --> 00:34:55.519
if you did, I'm not gonna look out. I'm driving

616
00:34:55.519 --> 00:34:59.280
his car. But I saw him.

617
00:34:59.599 --> 00:35:03.239
Hey, I remember that for the rest of my life.

618
00:35:03.679 --> 00:35:05.039
But wow, but I.

619
00:35:06.559 --> 00:35:06.800
Do.

620
00:35:07.440 --> 00:35:11.280
I did see him. I will remember that today I die.

621
00:35:12.239 --> 00:35:13.719
And where did you say that was?

622
00:35:14.800 --> 00:35:18.480
And uh, it's going toward Columbia, South Carolina.

623
00:35:19.280 --> 00:35:22.280
Oh okay, Columbia, South Carolina. Cool cool, cool?

624
00:35:22.320 --> 00:35:22.599
Wow.

625
00:35:23.119 --> 00:35:25.480
So you didn't actually see yourself, but the other person

626
00:35:25.519 --> 00:35:26.119
in the car did.

627
00:35:27.920 --> 00:35:31.239
Yeah, yeah, I saw it. My other person that was

628
00:35:31.280 --> 00:35:33.239
my mother, and she was driving.

629
00:35:33.920 --> 00:35:37.159
She had her or roll, I go roll.

630
00:35:37.880 --> 00:35:41.480
But I saw it and I saw I said, mob,

631
00:35:41.679 --> 00:35:43.119
that's a big foot.

632
00:35:43.559 --> 00:35:45.159
How old were you when you had the setting?

633
00:35:46.039 --> 00:35:48.280
Oh?

634
00:35:48.559 --> 00:35:54.960
My about my twenty thirty.

635
00:35:53.880 --> 00:35:59.840
Twenty and thirty going into twenty to thirty years old. Yeah, okay, gosh,

636
00:36:00.039 --> 00:36:02.599
can you explain what you saw? Do you remember any

637
00:36:02.679 --> 00:36:03.800
details about that?

638
00:36:05.079 --> 00:36:06.079
No, I'm just you know.

639
00:36:06.440 --> 00:36:10.800
We were going across the Row River and you, oh,

640
00:36:10.960 --> 00:36:13.800
look big I want to see what I could see

641
00:36:14.280 --> 00:36:18.559
in the river. And then I kept going and then

642
00:36:19.440 --> 00:36:27.159
I think, I said, that looks like a bigfoot, and

643
00:36:27.280 --> 00:36:30.679
so you know, I kept looking at it. It was

644
00:36:30.800 --> 00:36:34.199
going back into the woods. I guess it's been fishing

645
00:36:34.360 --> 00:36:37.079
or whatever it gets. It gets you, it caught its food,

646
00:36:37.880 --> 00:36:43.599
is going back into the woods. I said, I don't

647
00:36:43.599 --> 00:36:49.199
believe this. I don't believe this, but I saw a bigfoot.

648
00:36:49.960 --> 00:36:52.760
Is this the first time that you've told this story

649
00:36:52.800 --> 00:36:54.320
or have you told it to people before?

650
00:36:54.639 --> 00:36:56.039
No, the first time.

651
00:36:56.719 --> 00:36:58.800
This is the first time. Wow, this is a really

652
00:36:58.800 --> 00:37:01.800
big deal. Thank you for for sharing this. Do you

653
00:37:01.880 --> 00:37:04.159
remember the color of the hair?

654
00:37:04.199 --> 00:37:07.719
It all? It was black? It's brown?

655
00:37:09.000 --> 00:37:13.960
Okay, How how tall would you say it was?

656
00:37:15.559 --> 00:37:19.880
Ooh, Han Mercy, he I know he had be least

657
00:37:20.000 --> 00:37:22.039
ten ten leven feet tall.

658
00:37:22.920 --> 00:37:25.960
Yes, he was big. He's big. Do you mind if

659
00:37:25.960 --> 00:37:29.039
I use this audio for my podcast about bigfoot as well?

660
00:37:29.719 --> 00:37:31.760
No, No, I do not that.

661
00:37:31.960 --> 00:37:35.440
So you're saying that's that's okay, Yeah, that's okay. Okay.

662
00:37:36.719 --> 00:37:39.800
So did you have a did you look at it

663
00:37:39.840 --> 00:37:41.880
from the side then, or were you able to see

664
00:37:41.880 --> 00:37:42.599
the face at all?

665
00:37:43.480 --> 00:37:46.320
No, that he was going back in through the woods.

666
00:37:46.559 --> 00:37:46.880
Okay.

667
00:37:47.000 --> 00:37:48.960
So you saw the back of it, the.

668
00:37:48.800 --> 00:37:53.039
Back of it, and I saw the back of it

669
00:37:53.360 --> 00:37:58.400
because you know, I guess he gets he did a highway.

670
00:37:59.760 --> 00:38:01.199
Yeah, but he told used to.

671
00:38:01.360 --> 00:38:04.079
I guess it used to all the traffic on the

672
00:38:04.159 --> 00:38:09.440
highway you used to, so it doesn't bother him. So

673
00:38:09.559 --> 00:38:13.079
I guess it got a fish or whatever he had

674
00:38:13.119 --> 00:38:13.440
to get.

675
00:38:14.360 --> 00:38:16.559
He went back back into the woods.

676
00:38:17.880 --> 00:38:21.400
Oh, yes, ma'am, Yes, ma'am. Do you remember anything weird

677
00:38:21.679 --> 00:38:24.360
about the way that it was walking towards the woods,

678
00:38:24.440 --> 00:38:26.360
about its kid at all? No?

679
00:38:26.559 --> 00:38:28.920
Did did just walk right? It's like it's like you

680
00:38:29.000 --> 00:38:29.719
and I will walk.

681
00:38:29.840 --> 00:38:33.639
It's walking okay. So was it on two legs or

682
00:38:33.639 --> 00:38:34.320
four legs?

683
00:38:34.760 --> 00:38:35.000
Two?

684
00:38:35.760 --> 00:38:40.159
Two legs? Okay? Do you remember anything about its arms

685
00:38:40.159 --> 00:38:44.480
at all? Long? Long? How long would you.

686
00:38:44.440 --> 00:38:51.840
Say bye bye? Bye? H bye bye? A little bit

687
00:38:51.880 --> 00:38:54.239
longer than what what I all to be like?

688
00:38:54.960 --> 00:39:00.840
Okay? Atle bit longer, so longer than scotcha. Yeah, were

689
00:39:00.840 --> 00:39:04.519
you able to see? Ah? Was there a shape to

690
00:39:04.599 --> 00:39:07.960
its head at all? No?

691
00:39:08.639 --> 00:39:14.239
It it's like I got like like I I it

692
00:39:14.400 --> 00:39:15.360
had recogitized.

693
00:39:15.400 --> 00:39:15.559
Ah.

694
00:39:15.800 --> 00:39:19.360
But bye bye, I'll I can see what he was

695
00:39:19.440 --> 00:39:23.519
going back into into the woods, and so I can see.

696
00:39:23.760 --> 00:39:28.760
Okay, gotcha? Do you remember anything? Was it muscular looking?

697
00:39:28.800 --> 00:39:31.679
Did it look like a football player or a basketball player?

698
00:39:32.679 --> 00:39:34.239
Uh? By a football player?

699
00:39:34.840 --> 00:39:38.519
Okay, gotcha? Uh it was very muscular then.

700
00:39:39.119 --> 00:39:46.559
Yes, yes, I said, Bob, But that's a big Foot.

701
00:39:46.880 --> 00:39:52.800
And I'll keep my eyes on this roll and I'm

702
00:39:52.840 --> 00:39:54.599
not going to see what there is.

703
00:39:54.760 --> 00:39:56.119
I'll keep my eyes on the rope.

704
00:39:58.360 --> 00:40:01.760
I'm right in the Uh. I've written the tourist book

705
00:40:01.920 --> 00:40:05.360
about Bigfoot. It's a tourist book.

706
00:40:05.760 --> 00:40:11.519
But but yeah, but you know, I mean I like Bigfoot.

707
00:40:11.800 --> 00:40:15.360
I'll be, I'll be. I really appreciate him.

708
00:40:15.639 --> 00:40:16.760
What's the name of the book?

709
00:40:20.719 --> 00:40:22.559
Well, I have really named it.

710
00:40:24.440 --> 00:40:24.639
Yeah?

711
00:40:24.639 --> 00:40:27.199
Oh so you haven't you you're working on it right now?

712
00:40:27.559 --> 00:40:35.519
Yes, yes, yeah, I was really working on it. Life

713
00:40:35.639 --> 00:40:38.840
in Times of Mother Bigfoot, Mother big.

714
00:40:39.760 --> 00:40:42.559
Diff When when you get that release, can you send

715
00:40:42.599 --> 00:40:46.079
me an email or message on this platform about it

716
00:40:46.159 --> 00:40:48.840
so that I can check it out and share it.

717
00:40:48.920 --> 00:40:52.679
But yes, I will, I will.

718
00:40:53.599 --> 00:40:56.440
How did you How did you feel after you had

719
00:40:56.440 --> 00:40:58.079
that sighting of the Bigfoot that day?

720
00:41:01.679 --> 00:41:05.760
I really, I think I don't believe I did see it.

721
00:41:07.480 --> 00:41:13.159
My I didn't believe. I biggie was I believe that.

722
00:41:13.400 --> 00:41:17.000
I'm I think Marbles so now and Baba, I'm going

723
00:41:17.039 --> 00:41:18.840
to traffic and she's.

724
00:41:18.440 --> 00:41:23.239
Going to traffic. So but you know, but but I

725
00:41:23.320 --> 00:41:25.519
saw it. I saw it.

726
00:41:26.360 --> 00:41:29.639
That's incredible. And thank you so much for sharing. I mean,

727
00:41:29.719 --> 00:41:32.719
for the first time, you're finally sharing what you saw

728
00:41:32.760 --> 00:41:36.000
that day. Yes, I really appreciate that. Thank you, Vivica,

729
00:41:36.360 --> 00:41:36.920
thank you.

730
00:41:37.320 --> 00:41:40.599
All right, all right, you take care bye man.

731
00:41:41.920 --> 00:41:46.800
All right, But that was absolutely magical. That was That

732
00:41:46.960 --> 00:41:51.519
was one of the most magical encounters I've ever heard

733
00:41:51.559 --> 00:41:54.199
in my life. I believe her one hundred percent, one

734
00:41:54.239 --> 00:42:00.960
hundred percent, one thousand percent. Loadmaster, I remember this guy totally.

735
00:42:04.800 --> 00:42:07.199
Load Master. How are you We've talked before, right.

736
00:42:08.400 --> 00:42:09.559
Yeah, we've talked before.

737
00:42:09.599 --> 00:42:11.559
I was gonna I was gonna give you a little

738
00:42:11.599 --> 00:42:16.000
update on some information that I found out.

739
00:42:16.320 --> 00:42:19.800
Oh absolutely, do you do you mind if I potentially

740
00:42:19.840 --> 00:42:21.239
use this audio for the podcast.

741
00:42:22.559 --> 00:42:23.440
Sure that's fine.

742
00:42:23.760 --> 00:42:26.519
Cool, Yeah, the feel free to share what you've got

743
00:42:26.519 --> 00:42:26.960
going on.

744
00:42:28.440 --> 00:42:31.360
Uh well, yeah, I don't know if you want me

745
00:42:31.400 --> 00:42:34.599
to go back over the story that that we shared

746
00:42:34.639 --> 00:42:38.159
earlier for you and sure maybe yeah.

747
00:42:38.400 --> 00:42:41.480
Get everybody caught up all right.

748
00:42:41.639 --> 00:42:41.719
Uh.

749
00:42:42.039 --> 00:42:46.440
Where I used to live is in Mariposa County about oh.

750
00:42:46.559 --> 00:42:50.320
I lived probably about fifteen miles south of Yosemite National Park.

751
00:42:52.880 --> 00:42:56.440
Lived in a very very small wooded area. Closest neighbor

752
00:42:56.599 --> 00:42:59.360
was about three and a half miles away. You know,

753
00:42:59.559 --> 00:43:02.280
went to We're at the grade school with the you know,

754
00:43:02.679 --> 00:43:06.679
at least six seven grades with the same teacher.

755
00:43:06.639 --> 00:43:07.400
The same people.

756
00:43:07.480 --> 00:43:10.960
So very small knit community, even though it has grown

757
00:43:11.000 --> 00:43:15.679
a little bit. But off of Highway one thirty two

758
00:43:15.840 --> 00:43:21.880
that heads up towards Yusemite and connects to Highway one

759
00:43:22.079 --> 00:43:26.719
twenty that comes out of Groveland, there's an area. There's

760
00:43:26.760 --> 00:43:30.599
a place called Buck Meadows, and we used to own

761
00:43:30.639 --> 00:43:34.480
a gas station and a kind of like a little

762
00:43:34.519 --> 00:43:37.679
convenience store way back in the day. You know, we

763
00:43:37.800 --> 00:43:40.320
got a lot of traffic from people that were coming

764
00:43:40.360 --> 00:43:43.000
in and out of the main gate there at Yosemite.

765
00:43:44.159 --> 00:43:46.280
But for some of us that lived up there.

766
00:43:47.079 --> 00:43:51.599
That area had some of the best you know, natural

767
00:43:51.760 --> 00:43:56.920
fishing that you could ever dream of, you know, and

768
00:43:56.960 --> 00:44:02.400
being young kids summertime, you know, you're exploring. So one day,

769
00:44:02.400 --> 00:44:04.480
about five or six of us decided that we were

770
00:44:04.519 --> 00:44:08.840
going to try to reach this this meadow that had

771
00:44:08.920 --> 00:44:13.760
like a not really a pond, but really wide opening

772
00:44:13.960 --> 00:44:17.280
of the Sacramento River, or not the Sacramento River, but

773
00:44:17.320 --> 00:44:20.719
the Merced River that comes out of Yosemite. It's a

774
00:44:20.800 --> 00:44:24.199
very hard, hard place to get into. So we decided

775
00:44:24.239 --> 00:44:29.599
to do it on horseback one day. And so we're we're.

776
00:44:29.400 --> 00:44:31.760
Probably about maybe an hour.

777
00:44:31.679 --> 00:44:34.840
Into the ride and probably about maybe a mile and

778
00:44:34.840 --> 00:44:37.679
a half away from our goal that we wanted to

779
00:44:37.719 --> 00:44:42.159
get to. And I grew up with a lot of

780
00:44:42.239 --> 00:44:46.760
mee Walk Indians that from that area, you know, and

781
00:44:47.079 --> 00:44:50.960
to them, you know, Bigfoot is just like another tale

782
00:44:51.000 --> 00:44:54.960
that's told by their grandparents or their elders that have

783
00:44:55.079 --> 00:44:59.320
been passed down from generations to generations to generations, and

784
00:45:00.679 --> 00:45:02.679
there's a lot of a lot.

785
00:45:02.559 --> 00:45:03.280
Of belief in it.

786
00:45:03.360 --> 00:45:08.320
These these people believe in it wholeheartedly. And this area

787
00:45:08.400 --> 00:45:10.840
where we were going into, you know, matter of fact,

788
00:45:10.840 --> 00:45:14.079
there was actually a couple of Indian friends that I

789
00:45:14.119 --> 00:45:15.559
grew up with that was with us.

790
00:45:15.480 --> 00:45:20.159
That day, and we got up to this one meadow.

791
00:45:21.519 --> 00:45:25.039
And the horses started to get spooked, the horses, and

792
00:45:25.119 --> 00:45:27.639
we were all joking around, you know, we're just waiting to,

793
00:45:27.800 --> 00:45:31.719
you know, basically get up there to go fishing, kind

794
00:45:31.719 --> 00:45:34.599
of like a kind of like a three hour ride

795
00:45:34.679 --> 00:45:36.639
for about a half hour fishing just so we can

796
00:45:36.679 --> 00:45:38.960
get back. So we didn't really want to waste too

797
00:45:39.000 --> 00:45:43.000
much time. So we get up there and the horses

798
00:45:43.000 --> 00:45:44.360
are really starting.

799
00:45:43.960 --> 00:45:44.840
To get bugged out.

800
00:45:45.320 --> 00:45:49.239
And one of my friends he's like, you know, he's

801
00:45:49.239 --> 00:45:51.559
having a hard time with his horse. It wasn't his horse,

802
00:45:51.559 --> 00:45:53.400
it was a one that he had borrowed from a friend.

803
00:45:53.519 --> 00:45:56.079
So the horse didn't really want him on there. And

804
00:45:56.119 --> 00:45:59.639
the horse was starting to get really spooked, and then

805
00:46:00.159 --> 00:46:03.519
and then it started hitting us. We the odor kind

806
00:46:03.519 --> 00:46:05.920
of the breeze kind of got us. And the odor

807
00:46:06.159 --> 00:46:10.320
was like, I mean, I've been I've been in a combat,

808
00:46:10.360 --> 00:46:12.679
I've seen a lot of death. I've seen I've been

809
00:46:12.760 --> 00:46:16.199
part of rescue teams up there that have found bodies

810
00:46:16.199 --> 00:46:19.519
that have been you know, out in the sun for days,

811
00:46:19.599 --> 00:46:22.320
and the smell is something that's very unique.

812
00:46:23.320 --> 00:46:24.440
But this was different.

813
00:46:24.519 --> 00:46:28.079
This smell kind of like once it got into your nose,

814
00:46:28.239 --> 00:46:32.400
it was just like like you could never get it out.

815
00:46:32.559 --> 00:46:35.039
You could never get this smell out of your nose.

816
00:46:35.800 --> 00:46:38.000
And it was just putrid. I mean, there was a

817
00:46:38.039 --> 00:46:40.719
couple of us that was actually they were throwing up.

818
00:46:41.039 --> 00:46:43.360
It was just stunk like like something we.

819
00:46:43.559 --> 00:46:44.280
Never smelled for.

820
00:46:45.719 --> 00:46:48.760
And one of the one of the guys, started looking

821
00:46:48.800 --> 00:46:52.119
around at the around the tree line of this meadow

822
00:46:53.079 --> 00:46:56.400
and we started noticing that some of these sugar pines

823
00:46:58.159 --> 00:47:00.199
that you know, they don't get that tall. They get

824
00:47:00.199 --> 00:47:04.159
about maybe fifteen twenty maybe thirty feet if you get lucky,

825
00:47:05.119 --> 00:47:08.880
but about i'd say about ten feet up. They're about

826
00:47:08.920 --> 00:47:14.039
maybe four inches in diameter maybe, And these trees were

827
00:47:14.119 --> 00:47:20.679
just snapped like they were twigs. But I mean, there

828
00:47:20.760 --> 00:47:23.159
wasn't just one. You could tell you swine one and

829
00:47:23.159 --> 00:47:25.239
then okay, there's another one, and there's another one, and

830
00:47:25.239 --> 00:47:28.639
there's another one. And we started figuring out that it

831
00:47:28.880 --> 00:47:34.960
pretty much covered this whole meadow. And then one of

832
00:47:34.679 --> 00:47:39.440
our Indian friends that was with us, he kind of

833
00:47:39.480 --> 00:47:41.239
figured out what it was and he was telling us

834
00:47:41.360 --> 00:47:42.960
we got to go. We got to turn around. We

835
00:47:43.039 --> 00:47:46.559
have to leave right now, and we're like, what's the deal.

836
00:47:46.559 --> 00:47:49.559
I says, well, we've stumbled into some territory.

837
00:47:51.079 --> 00:47:53.960
It was something that don't want to stay here. I mean,

838
00:47:54.559 --> 00:47:55.880
this is probably.

839
00:47:55.480 --> 00:47:57.920
An area where we were at probably the last time

840
00:47:58.000 --> 00:48:00.760
probably humans were up in there other than a bunch

841
00:48:00.840 --> 00:48:03.599
of crazy kids trying to find a stream to fish in.

842
00:48:04.519 --> 00:48:07.239
We're probably back during the days when they did a

843
00:48:07.239 --> 00:48:10.920
lot of hydro mining up there. They did a ton

844
00:48:10.960 --> 00:48:14.079
of hydro mining up there, just southeast Semity. I mean

845
00:48:14.119 --> 00:48:18.760
they used the Merced River since that area that comes

846
00:48:18.760 --> 00:48:21.800
out of the park is pretty steep, so you get

847
00:48:21.800 --> 00:48:25.199
a pretty good flow of water so you can I

848
00:48:25.239 --> 00:48:27.000
don't know if any of you guys have ever seen

849
00:48:27.039 --> 00:48:30.760
any kind of like back in the history days, back

850
00:48:30.800 --> 00:48:33.880
in like the eighteen hundreds, you know, late eighteen hundreds,

851
00:48:33.880 --> 00:48:38.119
when they were hydro mining that whole area California. And

852
00:48:39.079 --> 00:48:46.559
there's there's been documentation in the in the museum in Mariposa.

853
00:48:46.760 --> 00:48:50.760
There was actually a diary of a young girl that

854
00:48:50.920 --> 00:48:58.039
lived near Coulterville that's close to that area, and it

855
00:48:58.079 --> 00:49:03.480
has a couple of entries into this this log book

856
00:49:03.559 --> 00:49:05.960
or this this diary of this girl about you know,

857
00:49:06.559 --> 00:49:12.159
hairy men coming down and destroying hydro mining equipment, you know,

858
00:49:12.480 --> 00:49:15.239
which at the day was like you know, metal pipes

859
00:49:15.280 --> 00:49:19.000
that ran down the hill lines that you know, the

860
00:49:19.039 --> 00:49:22.400
farther they went down, the smaller the diameter the pipe

861
00:49:22.400 --> 00:49:25.639
would get until you got like a fire hose at

862
00:49:25.639 --> 00:49:28.519
the other end. And that's what they just used, that

863
00:49:28.519 --> 00:49:34.159
that fire hose and just sprayed the land and all

864
00:49:34.199 --> 00:49:36.599
the dirt to try to break up as much dirt

865
00:49:36.639 --> 00:49:38.320
as they could to get it down into the river.

866
00:49:39.119 --> 00:49:41.639
And then the Chinese would come through and they would

867
00:49:42.079 --> 00:49:45.840
pan through the gold try to find you know, as

868
00:49:45.920 --> 00:49:46.880
much goal as they could.

869
00:49:47.000 --> 00:49:48.960
And they did. They found a lot of gold, but they.

870
00:49:48.840 --> 00:49:53.320
Also got into areas where they had sustained a lot

871
00:49:53.320 --> 00:49:55.960
of damage. I mean there was there was something up

872
00:49:56.000 --> 00:49:59.559
there that was coming down and destroying some of the

873
00:49:59.599 --> 00:50:01.599
equipm I mean sometimes they were like.

874
00:50:03.360 --> 00:50:04.679
Destroying cabins.

875
00:50:04.800 --> 00:50:08.199
I'm running the people out of there, just I mean,

876
00:50:08.199 --> 00:50:09.159
they knew what they were doing.

877
00:50:09.239 --> 00:50:11.760
These these these creatures, they know what they're doing. They're

878
00:50:11.800 --> 00:50:12.280
not stupid.

879
00:50:12.320 --> 00:50:14.760
They're not like a normal animal or a bear or

880
00:50:14.800 --> 00:50:17.840
whatever that they They've got some intelligence there. They want

881
00:50:17.880 --> 00:50:22.880
you out. They want you out. So I reached out

882
00:50:22.880 --> 00:50:24.079
to a friend of mine. You know, we were just

883
00:50:24.119 --> 00:50:26.360
talking about it after I shared this.

884
00:50:26.239 --> 00:50:28.719
With you, and and.

885
00:50:27.920 --> 00:50:30.599
And he was like he'd almost forgotten about it. And

886
00:50:30.599 --> 00:50:32.280
he was like, oh yeah, yeah, He's like and then

887
00:50:32.320 --> 00:50:34.800
he and then he reminded me of a of a

888
00:50:35.039 --> 00:50:39.039
of another story that we had up there in that

889
00:50:39.199 --> 00:50:43.320
same area where a big storm, a big storm, I

890
00:50:43.320 --> 00:50:46.519
mean it was like raining and winding and stuff like that,

891
00:50:46.760 --> 00:50:49.760
and that area had had got a lot of a

892
00:50:49.880 --> 00:50:54.800
lot of a lot of storm damage. And storms will

893
00:50:54.840 --> 00:50:58.440
do just like any other animal, it'll it'll make a

894
00:50:58.559 --> 00:51:00.599
move to a different area just to get away from

895
00:51:00.639 --> 00:51:04.360
the storm. And a lot of people up there, there

896
00:51:04.440 --> 00:51:07.320
was a lot of sightings on that on that on

897
00:51:07.360 --> 00:51:10.119
that storm, there's a lot of people that my grandpa

898
00:51:10.239 --> 00:51:13.000
drove a tow truck up there. So he picked up

899
00:51:13.039 --> 00:51:15.440
one guy and he's like, oh, yeah, they're they're migrating

900
00:51:15.519 --> 00:51:16.760
right now because of the storm.

901
00:51:16.800 --> 00:51:17.840
They're getting there.

902
00:51:17.880 --> 00:51:19.960
They're trying to get down out of the gully and

903
00:51:19.960 --> 00:51:21.519
and try to get up into higher ground.

904
00:51:22.159 --> 00:51:22.480
Wow.

905
00:51:22.519 --> 00:51:24.280
And and then you know, it does you.

906
00:51:24.199 --> 00:51:27.280
Know, and this this guy that I just talked to,

907
00:51:27.360 --> 00:51:29.519
he's a couple of weeks ago. He's like, yeah, there's

908
00:51:29.559 --> 00:51:34.960
still there's still signs of that stuff up there, and

909
00:51:34.960 --> 00:51:37.719
and we were talking like, man, this would be like

910
00:51:37.800 --> 00:51:40.960
a challenge for somebody. If somebody wants to really find

911
00:51:42.079 --> 00:51:44.440
I think they could probably go up there and spend

912
00:51:44.440 --> 00:51:49.199
some time and actually encounter Bigfoot. I think that within

913
00:51:49.320 --> 00:51:52.519
my my whole hearted I think that they're up there.

914
00:51:53.320 --> 00:51:57.000
And according to the mewalk Indians.

915
00:51:56.480 --> 00:51:59.480
That are up there in that area, they claim that

916
00:51:59.480 --> 00:52:03.760
that area just south of the park is like they

917
00:52:03.800 --> 00:52:06.000
call it, I remember the word, but it's like a

918
00:52:06.039 --> 00:52:12.119
family word for Meanwhile, it's it's it's basically where Bigfoot congregates.

919
00:52:12.199 --> 00:52:17.800
They they raise their young up there. They they they.

920
00:52:17.880 --> 00:52:20.880
Just basically have been living up there for for years

921
00:52:21.719 --> 00:52:24.480
and it's a it's an area that you cannot get to.

922
00:52:24.840 --> 00:52:27.599
I mean even when there's fires that happened through there.

923
00:52:28.199 --> 00:52:31.760
Even some of the tankers and some of the helicopters

924
00:52:31.760 --> 00:52:34.880
that fight fires have a hard time getting up in there.

925
00:52:35.800 --> 00:52:38.400
And it's just really nasty. It's it's just it's just

926
00:52:38.639 --> 00:52:42.280
an area just south of the park. It wasn't wasn't

927
00:52:42.280 --> 00:52:47.280
cut out like Yusemite Park by glaciers, but probably got

928
00:52:47.320 --> 00:52:49.880
a lot of the tail end of that that period

929
00:52:49.920 --> 00:52:51.239
of the world, you.

930
00:52:51.199 --> 00:52:52.119
Know, back in the day.

931
00:52:52.639 --> 00:52:57.599
So it's just one of the hospitable areas of California,

932
00:52:57.639 --> 00:53:02.639
the other California that you can find. And I think

933
00:53:02.679 --> 00:53:05.599
it's a I think it's a safe place for them.

934
00:53:05.639 --> 00:53:08.119
I think it's a refuge fore. I think they do

935
00:53:08.360 --> 00:53:14.800
migrate along the Sierra Nevadas to get up into like

936
00:53:14.880 --> 00:53:19.960
in the Klamath Fall areas and then across into the Cascades,

937
00:53:20.159 --> 00:53:24.280
and I think they do. I think they do actually migrate.

938
00:53:24.400 --> 00:53:28.880
And I've actually heard of people that track wolves. They

939
00:53:28.960 --> 00:53:33.159
track wolves up and down the West coast or the

940
00:53:33.480 --> 00:53:37.880
whole Northwest. I mean, we just got a notification about

941
00:53:37.880 --> 00:53:40.519
a couple months ago about I can't I don't remember

942
00:53:40.599 --> 00:53:44.920
the number of the wolf, but he's been seen migrating

943
00:53:45.000 --> 00:53:48.280
south with a herd of females, which he normally does.

944
00:53:48.519 --> 00:53:51.360
But there's been some of these trackers that track these

945
00:53:51.400 --> 00:53:56.159
wolves that have seen things that like, what's that traveling

946
00:53:56.199 --> 00:53:58.679
with these wolves? It looks almost like a bear, But

947
00:53:58.719 --> 00:54:02.800
a bear doesn't, you know, travel through large dense areas

948
00:54:02.840 --> 00:54:05.440
on their back, on their high you know, standing up

949
00:54:06.360 --> 00:54:08.639
and and and the funny part is that, or the

950
00:54:08.800 --> 00:54:12.280
curious part is they're finding little ones, not just big

951
00:54:12.320 --> 00:54:13.719
but little ones, young wings.

952
00:54:13.800 --> 00:54:14.599
What to call them.

953
00:54:14.639 --> 00:54:17.119
I can't remember the word for it from the me walks,

954
00:54:17.199 --> 00:54:20.480
but it's a young wing. So I think that that

955
00:54:20.639 --> 00:54:23.239
area up there, and I think that's why it's so

956
00:54:23.360 --> 00:54:25.000
protected by them, because they.

957
00:54:24.840 --> 00:54:26.199
Do have their young up there.

958
00:54:26.800 --> 00:54:30.800
Sure, And that whole area up there, I think if

959
00:54:30.880 --> 00:54:34.679
if I live up farther north, and I don't think

960
00:54:34.760 --> 00:54:35.119
I could.

961
00:54:35.239 --> 00:54:37.519
I mean, I could point on a map where it's at.

962
00:54:37.840 --> 00:54:41.480
But if if somebody was to try to like get

963
00:54:41.559 --> 00:54:44.360
up into the park basically and follow the river down,

964
00:54:44.960 --> 00:54:49.119
it's gonna take you well, and you're gonna need some equipment.

965
00:54:49.159 --> 00:54:52.360
You're gonna have to be a very very skilled outdoorsman

966
00:54:52.440 --> 00:54:56.360
to get through there. But I think if if somebody's

967
00:54:56.440 --> 00:54:58.440
up for the challenge and they really want to put

968
00:54:58.440 --> 00:55:01.519
a rest of this proofs, if they can make it

969
00:55:01.559 --> 00:55:04.039
in and make it out, I think they can encounter bigfoot.

970
00:55:04.320 --> 00:55:06.360
I think they can encounter bigfoot. I think they can

971
00:55:06.440 --> 00:55:10.079
encounter females. I think they can encounter just like I said,

972
00:55:10.079 --> 00:55:13.840
the younglings. Because there's a lot of things that's that's

973
00:55:13.880 --> 00:55:16.719
been documented up in that area, and and it's been

974
00:55:16.800 --> 00:55:23.480
passed off as people because of the size. But it's

975
00:55:23.480 --> 00:55:28.199
no mistaking you know, there's a difference between a ten

976
00:55:28.280 --> 00:55:30.880
year old boy running through the woods and say, like

977
00:55:30.960 --> 00:55:33.119
a ten year old bigfoot running through.

978
00:55:32.920 --> 00:55:39.039
The absolutely absolutely, but that area, you know, I just

979
00:55:39.280 --> 00:55:42.079
for my friend to reaffirmed for me that, oh yeah,

980
00:55:42.119 --> 00:55:44.559
that's you know, and it's it's just like it's it's

981
00:55:44.559 --> 00:55:47.320
something that they know up there, and they've known it

982
00:55:47.360 --> 00:55:47.880
for years.

983
00:55:47.960 --> 00:55:50.719
They don't bother with it. They like, hey, he's on

984
00:55:50.760 --> 00:55:53.559
his own. He doesn't come tear up my stuff. I

985
00:55:53.559 --> 00:55:56.079
don't come up and tear up his stuff. But living

986
00:55:56.159 --> 00:55:58.079
up there as long as I did, there's there's been

987
00:55:58.119 --> 00:56:01.559
a lot of stuff up there that's happen and that

988
00:56:01.559 --> 00:56:07.239
that's just not understandable. It's not explainable. It's it's hard

989
00:56:07.280 --> 00:56:09.119
to explain unless you've been there.

990
00:56:10.639 --> 00:56:11.440
Uh, you know.

991
00:56:11.480 --> 00:56:14.719
The terrain is just like I mean, we're talking like

992
00:56:14.719 --> 00:56:18.920
like South American jungle like type stuff. The canopy is

993
00:56:18.920 --> 00:56:23.119
is very very thick with oaks and pines and a

994
00:56:23.119 --> 00:56:26.239
lot of granite. There's a lot of granite that that

995
00:56:26.239 --> 00:56:32.519
that uh, just big canyons, big gullies, and you get

996
00:56:32.559 --> 00:56:35.679
in there, you might not make it out. I mean, nowadays,

997
00:56:35.760 --> 00:56:38.960
technology with the way satellite phones and the way just

998
00:56:39.000 --> 00:56:42.880
phone services as it is now, would probably be a

999
00:56:42.920 --> 00:56:45.039
whole lot easier to get into that area and get

1000
00:56:45.079 --> 00:56:49.519
out nowadays than it was back when I grew up there. Oh,

1001
00:56:49.599 --> 00:56:52.039
I mean, we just stumbled on it by accident. And

1002
00:56:52.360 --> 00:56:55.440
I won't ever go up there ever again. But I

1003
00:56:55.519 --> 00:56:58.519
know that that that whole episode that we had up

1004
00:56:58.519 --> 00:57:00.000
there will be with me for the rest of them

1005
00:57:00.039 --> 00:57:03.000
my life. And I've never come across anything that smelt

1006
00:57:03.079 --> 00:57:08.159
that bad since then. But you know, and it's it's

1007
00:57:08.199 --> 00:57:12.079
not like it's not like the like on tiktoking. Now

1008
00:57:12.119 --> 00:57:14.679
you have a lot of these bigfoot the ai stuff

1009
00:57:14.679 --> 00:57:16.880
that looks more like a gorilla than.

1010
00:57:16.719 --> 00:57:19.480
Anything else, And it's not like that. It's just not

1011
00:57:19.679 --> 00:57:20.079
like that.

1012
00:57:20.760 --> 00:57:23.400
They're they're more they're more of a they're more of

1013
00:57:23.440 --> 00:57:30.079
a humanoid looking creature than anything else. I mean, according

1014
00:57:30.119 --> 00:57:31.719
to I mean, there's a lot of a friend of

1015
00:57:31.719 --> 00:57:32.239
mine who is a.

1016
00:57:32.280 --> 00:57:34.800
Me walk he he he believes in it.

1017
00:57:34.880 --> 00:57:36.880
He believes in it, and so he thinks that there's

1018
00:57:36.920 --> 00:57:38.679
a lot of reincarnation.

1019
00:57:38.119 --> 00:57:38.760
That goes into that.

1020
00:57:38.800 --> 00:57:42.360
A lot of me Walk warriors that died way back

1021
00:57:42.360 --> 00:57:44.599
in the day, you know, have been reincarnated and that's

1022
00:57:44.599 --> 00:57:48.159
who they're and they come back as protectors of the land.

1023
00:57:49.800 --> 00:57:53.480
But yeah, somebody wants to go up there, I would

1024
00:57:53.559 --> 00:57:56.639
definitely I would suggest that if you want to find it,

1025
00:57:57.280 --> 00:57:59.239
if you're willing to go up there and find it,

1026
00:57:59.760 --> 00:58:00.599
I think he can't.

1027
00:58:00.880 --> 00:58:02.960
I still think he can. And there's a lot of people.

1028
00:58:02.800 --> 00:58:05.679
Up there that will tell you you're a fool for trying,

1029
00:58:05.760 --> 00:58:10.400
because you just might find him. And if if it

1030
00:58:10.559 --> 00:58:13.360
is an area that have the young wings and females,

1031
00:58:13.920 --> 00:58:17.079
they're going to protect it with everything that they have.

1032
00:58:17.880 --> 00:58:23.880
Yeah, you're walking into a very dangerous situation, no doubt.

1033
00:58:24.039 --> 00:58:24.920
Oh yeah. Yeah.

1034
00:58:25.199 --> 00:58:28.000
And and I think that the that the markings with

1035
00:58:28.079 --> 00:58:30.960
the trees and the smell, that's just a big time

1036
00:58:31.000 --> 00:58:34.119
warning that you're you're entering in an area that you

1037
00:58:34.159 --> 00:58:34.920
don't need to be.

1038
00:58:36.480 --> 00:58:38.239
And the only the only.

1039
00:58:38.119 --> 00:58:40.639
Indigenous people up there, like I said, are the me Walks,

1040
00:58:40.679 --> 00:58:42.719
and they're the only ones that that I know of

1041
00:58:42.760 --> 00:58:47.719
that have a history of this, you know. And yeah,

1042
00:58:47.800 --> 00:58:50.480
I mean I would I would really love to see

1043
00:58:50.480 --> 00:58:53.079
somebody go up in there and see what they could find.

1044
00:58:53.159 --> 00:58:55.519
I'd love to see it be recorded and documented, to

1045
00:58:55.559 --> 00:58:58.880
be honest with you, because the Buerau of Land Management

1046
00:58:59.000 --> 00:59:02.239
they they don't even go up in there for forestry service.

1047
00:59:02.800 --> 00:59:04.199
They wouldn't even go up in there.

1048
00:59:04.760 --> 00:59:08.880
Oh wow, it's it's just a yeah, it's very uncharted,

1049
00:59:09.800 --> 00:59:14.400
untouched territory. Maybe you might get a few gold miners.

1050
00:59:14.400 --> 00:59:16.760
There's been a few people that's gone up there that

1051
00:59:16.880 --> 00:59:19.559
try to find because you know, I don't think they

1052
00:59:19.599 --> 00:59:22.559
got all the gold. There's got to be some left,

1053
00:59:22.880 --> 00:59:26.280
but it's just getting to it. I mean, I've had

1054
00:59:26.480 --> 00:59:28.880
a claim myself up and not in that area about

1055
00:59:28.920 --> 00:59:32.679
maybe ten miles south of that area where I started

1056
00:59:32.719 --> 00:59:37.480
in two inches of water and finish in bedrock and

1057
00:59:37.559 --> 00:59:40.719
be like almost eight feet deep in the water using

1058
00:59:40.960 --> 00:59:46.000
snorkel and scuba gear just to dredge the gold out

1059
00:59:46.039 --> 00:59:47.400
of these cracks and stuff.

1060
00:59:47.440 --> 00:59:49.320
So, you know, if.

1061
00:59:49.199 --> 00:59:51.039
Somebody is a gold miner and they want to go

1062
00:59:51.119 --> 00:59:53.800
up there and find some gold, maybe look around for bigfoot.

1063
00:59:54.400 --> 00:59:56.840
Hey you might you never know what you might find.

1064
00:59:57.039 --> 00:59:58.039
You never know.

1065
00:59:58.199 --> 01:00:00.440
Man Loadmaster is great to talk to you, and thank

1066
01:00:00.480 --> 01:00:04.519
you so much for sharing sharing your account again and update.

1067
01:00:04.639 --> 01:00:06.119
I appreciate you coming up, sir.

1068
01:00:07.639 --> 01:00:10.039
Yeah, I'm a firm believer. I don't think anybody's going

1069
01:00:10.119 --> 01:00:12.239
to change my mind. You know, I know what I saw,

1070
01:00:12.440 --> 01:00:14.639
I know what I smelled, and I know where I

1071
01:00:14.679 --> 01:00:18.000
was at. And like I said, I've been at just

1072
01:00:18.039 --> 01:00:23.159
about every conflict that we've been in between eighty five

1073
01:00:23.280 --> 01:00:25.760
and twenty eleven when I was in the military, so

1074
01:00:26.800 --> 01:00:30.079
I've seen a lot of stuff, but I've still there's

1075
01:00:30.239 --> 01:00:33.119
not been one thing that's taught that. And now, like

1076
01:00:33.159 --> 01:00:35.079
I said, I was ten years old at the time

1077
01:00:35.360 --> 01:00:37.519
and that was fifty years ago.

1078
01:00:38.079 --> 01:00:38.480
Wow.

1079
01:00:38.800 --> 01:00:39.159
Wow.

1080
01:00:40.480 --> 01:00:42.800
Well keep us up to date with if you have

1081
01:00:42.840 --> 01:00:45.760
any updates in the future, sir. But thank you so

1082
01:00:45.840 --> 01:00:46.719
much for coming up.

1083
01:00:48.000 --> 01:00:49.960
Hey, no problem, no problem for having me.

1084
01:00:52.079 --> 01:00:54.639
Good stuff. Good to talk to load Master again. Thanks

1085
01:00:54.679 --> 01:00:57.519
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1086
01:00:57.519 --> 01:01:02.440
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1087
01:01:02.519 --> 01:01:04.840
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1088
01:01:04.960 --> 01:01:07.159
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1089
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1090
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1091
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1092
01:01:19.840 --> 01:01:22.480
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1096
01:01:32.639 --> 01:01:35.280
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1097
01:01:35.519 --> 01:01:37.760
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1098
01:01:38.159 --> 01:01:39.159
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