We Found the Nursery. And They Knew We Did. | Yosemite National Park

0:00 Welcome to big for Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. Tonight's episode is a continuation of some recent interviews I've done over on the TikTok platform. These are raw and very much unexpected there from all corners of the US and all corners of the world, things that we really haven't broached yet in the topic of Bigfoot, so pretty intense. Buckle up for these ones. I think you're really going to enjoy them, and again, listen with an open mind. Enjoy. Hey, Kelly, how are you? I'm good? How are you awesome? Did you have an encounters to share? Yes? Actually I just wanted to pop on real quick because this is something that so basically I was in Canada and I was.

0:47 Certain Sorry, before we get going, Kelly, is it possible if I could use this audio for my podcast at all? Or is this soft record? Oh it's fine, Yeah, absolutely, that's. Okay to use that. All right, feel free to go ahead. Okay. So I was thirteen years old and I was in Canada, and I was with my uncle, my aunt and my cousin, and we were on a train and there was we were going through like there was a lot of like trees it was a very wooded area and I looked down and I saw a bigfoot like walking like it. I mean, to this day, I am forty nine years old.

1:29 I remember every detail. I can still see it exactly how it happened. I was terrified at like once I saw this, you know, I started screaming and I was like, oh my gosh, you know, because I was younger, and I'm thinking there's a monster out there, but absolutely walking standing up. In the woods. I saw it for several like seconds as we were going by, so I could see exactly, like you know, I knew what I was looking at. But yeah, my whole entire family, they all know about this story because I've never stopped talking about it.

2:11 And yeah, that's basically what happened. So you said this happened in Canada. Was it a certain area in Canada? You know, I've not. I've not gone back to, like, you know, ask my uncle, like get the details of exactly where we were, which I could. I could find out and just ask him. But that's that's what I remember. My uncle got married, we were on I went with my cousin and him and his wife. They were on their honeymoon. So they took us with them. It was like a family trip. And yeah, but other people saw it as well.

2:57 No, it was just me, okay, wow. Very interesting. Do you remember anything about the way the way it moved when it was walking? Did it have a certain gate it all? You could tell when it was walking just it almost seemed like it was because obviously we were up off the ground, but it was still like close enough to where when I looked down to see it, it was it almost had like a heaviness to the walk. I guess you can say maybe like if you could think of a more heavy set person when they walk versus someone who's you know, less heavy. But you could just tell it was just kind of swaying. But absolutely, without a doubt, never forgot it. I can still see it when I closed my eyes. Like I said, I was, I was terrified. I was very scared when I saw that because I was old enough to know, you know what I mean, Like I was thirteen, I wasn't like a child, so I was old enough to.

4:13 Know what I saw. Absolutely Yeah, and it stuck with me till this day. Were you able to see if it was a certain color at all? It was definitely very dark brown, very dark brown, not a light color like just like a very dark brown to black for sure. And I mean it literally looked like a huge like you know, ape like walking like when you look down, like that's exactly what I saw.

4:53 How far away from you would you estimate it it was when you were on the train. I remember looking down and we were like above the trees. Again, I don't know the specific distance, but like when I look down, you could see like the top of the trees. We were above the trees where we were, but there was the trees were not as thick, so you could still see, like you know, at the area where it was walking. But I saw it. It was clear as day.

5:34 It was just staring like ahead. It didn't seem like this train affected it like you know. But yeah, so could you see any details of the face from the viewpoint that you had. I would say not so much. But when I looked down and I saw it, I mean you could just tell like if you were to see like an ape like from a long distance, like that's what I saw, but like it was fully like hair like top. To bottom like not us, you know. And but yes, I mean.

6:23 I saw and I do remember like as it was walking, like you know, the arms were just moving, but it just seemed like it was just shifting like side to side, like a heaviness to it. But yeah, that's that's very very interesting. Were you able to see a shape to the head at all, I. Would say kind of similar to this picture you have behind you. You you know, the head was big enough to where again I can't say too much of the details of the actual face, but it has like the kind of head that's sort of behind you, like like that much hair on it, you know, like when you look down you see this, it's like in the middle of nowhere, and you just know.

7:24 That that's. Absolutely And thank you so much for answering all my questions. I have just one more, and I appreciate you hanging out up here for a bit. What would you say, is there one detail that stuck out that made you think, Okay, what I'm looking at right now is definitely a big foot. I think for me was that as soon as I saw it, I recognized that like what it was, meaning that I was instantly like like terrified, like I was very scared, you know, and and I and I've I've always you know, I've I've watched scary movies before, They've never really affected me, like you know, when I was younger and stuff like that. But when I looked down and I saw this thing, it was almost like I always heard of a bigfoot, you know what I mean, But I never, you know, did research on it. I wasn't involved in it like when I was younger anything like that. But when I saw it, I knew exactly what it was. I started, you know, I was. I watched it for at least I would say five seconds, five to seven seconds, like I mean, and it was walking like just through the woods. And you know, sometimes

9:02 I laugh with my uncle, you know, to this day. Again, this was when I was thirteen. I'm forty nine now, and I tell him, like, you remember when I saw Bigfoot, and he's like, oh my gosh, I wouldn't stop talking about it for days, you know me. But but yeah, that was my instinct. It was like when I saw it, it was it was instantly. It was instantly like I knew what it was, you know what I mean. It was like it was as good as I saw it. There was just absolutely there was nothing else, like one hundred percent. But yeah, wow, Kelly, thank you for coming up, but I appreciate you sharing what you saw that day and for providing some additional insight into what you experienced. I greatly appreciate it.

9:47 Yes, thank you for having me. I've appreciate it being able to share that. Let's see, we've got Gary wanting to come up. Hi. Gary, how are you. All right? How's it going? Can you hear me? Yes? Sir? Yes, sir? And were you wanting to come up to share about a big funen counter? You said? I just wanted to say thank you. You actually did my video last year in October. I'm the trunk driver that saw big Foot in Peoria, Illinois. Oh yeah, totally. Yeah. I just wanted to let you know that I'm still the Bigfoot guy. I'm Central Illinois and it's it's been a blast. I always get questions asked, and a lot of a lot of them I can't answer. But yeah, it's just been a blast, and it's gotten to the point where I want to see him again. But the thing scared me so much. I don't want to see it.

10:45 He's like, I want to see it, but I don't want to see it. And then Gary, real quick, are you okay if I use this audio for my podcast. Oh yeah, okay, great, thank you. So while so you are the individual that saw get wild truck driving. That is so cool man. Yeah yeah, and you did my video and uh we got over a million views on that thing. And it's just, uh, I'm still you know, the bigfoot guy of Peoria. And it's just it's been it's been crazy, that's all I said. I was, yeah, yeah, I'm just gonna tell the story. I was working early morning shift. It was about five forty five. I was headed to a town called Canton and we have this little wooded area called Benner Marsh and uh, it was pretty dark. Like I said, it was October, so it was still pretty dark around that time.

11:44 Uh I'm going, you know, like I said, towards Campon and over to the left in the wooded area. It's this thing standing on side of the road. But I didn't notice it until I got directly up on it. And uh yeah. The whole encounter was about five seconds. I passed the thing right by. I believe I kind of startled it a little bit because I was he looked like he was getting ready to cross the street as I was approaching uh and yeah, the crazy part about it is we have cameras in our trucks and the company would not give me the camera the video for it for nothing. But I remember, yeah, man money Baker brought me a camera and then the company bandoned me from putting the camera on the truck. We have cameras in our truck. And I'm pretty sure you know it's weird because like even my boss when he talks to me. Now you know, our bosses out of Chicago a work in Peoria. But whenever I talked to him, he's like, hey, man, just he big foot again, like he's really intrigued about it. But they will not release this video to save my life. Yeah wow.

12:55 That And do you do that route Austin. Yeah, I was. I was still on that same route until about a month ago. They finally took me off of it. But now I'm going even further now. So but yeah, ever since that day, it's like, you know, I'm looking for deer, I'm looking for bigfoot. I'm looking for deer. I'm looking for bigfoot. Because even after my story, there were I say, maybe five more stories just like mine, and some one saw you know, like Bigfoot tracks at the place called Wildlife Prairie Park. We have here, we have like a lot of land here, you know, a lot of yeah, like prairie land. And it's just yes.

13:36 And whenever somebody brings up Bigfoot, you know, they always brings on my story and it's just been it's been a bland. So no, it absolutely, you know, it's one of those ones that is always going to be told about in the Peoria area. And it's just it's it's so so interesting. Do you remember any details about the creature that you saw across in front of you that day? He was getting ready to cross, and like I said, I didn't see him until I was right up on him. So the thing was so big. I'm sitting up on a on a twenty foot twenty twenty foot box truck, so I'm sitting up pretty high, and the thing was we were sitting about eyesight towards to each other. So I'm thinking this thing was at least eight feet tall, because I noticed his eyes. He had like glowing eyes, you know what I'm saying. He had like glowing eyes.

14:27 And all I know is I can remember seeing the lower half of him really clear, and it was just like really dark brown, tangled fur. And as I'm looking, you know, I'm looking and I'm just I've never seen anything like that, so I couldn't wrap my mind around what it was. I'm sitting there thinking, like, what is that? What is that? I'm looking in the rear view mirror, and I just see these eyes just looking at me like you know, That's where I noticed the eyes was going and it just scared the you know what out of me. That's where I was going, and I freaked out. I told the ladies that I was delivering the mail to what I've seen, and everyone thought I was crazy until about two or three days later it was all over the news. I did radio shows.

15:12 It was Yeah, it was huge. It's a really big deal. What color were the glowing eyes? They were like a dark yellow, Okay, yeah, it was like a dark yellow, but it was like reflective at the same time. I have no way, It's like, it's hard to explain because I've never seen anything like that, right, and it really it really did scare me. Did it remind you more of an eph type creature or something that was more human, something. That was more human? And you know, as I as I as I. Ever since that day, you know, I've been looking and researching. I was like, I'm just kind of very interested in it, and I believe these things are intelligent, and I believe they I believe they know exactly what they're doing. They know how to keep away from people. And I was thinking, like, how do they get around, you know, from one side of town to the other. And we have all these creaks around Peoria, Illinois.

16:14 We have creaked from one end to the other end, so they could get They can pretty much get around under the text. So yeah, that thing is. It was really huge, so I would say at least like eight feet tall, and just me looking at the size of this thing's legs, I mean, I believe he could have if he wanted to, he could have kicked the truck over if I was standing still, or if I was parked, if he wanted to, he could have easily just tilted this thing like this dude huge. Yeah, so you could see could you see muscle under the hair? Then No, I didn't see muscle under the hair, but I can see just by the side of the legs.

16:58 Like I said, I didn't see the thing until I was directly up on it. It was like if I if I didn't look up, if I was looking down on my computer or anything, I would have missed it. Because the whole thing five seconds, you know, it was just crazy. So I went to the company. I said, hey, man, I just saw something really crazy, and I gave them time and day. It's okay, Well we'll look at it for you. Oh we can't. We can't give you the video, the video. We can't pull the video up. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah right, yeah crazy. It was crazy. Yeah, they couldn't get the video all of a sudden then. But yeah, every time I talk to my boss, hey man, did you see anything crazy? Did you witness anything crazy? Like, no, no, it's just but it's been a blast. Yeah.

17:45 Would you do anything differently if you're able to have let's say you're driving your truck again, you have another sighting, would you do anything differently. If it's at the right time. Yeah, I've been looking. I've been hoping that I could actually see the thing and I could get out and record it with my phone or something like that, because I'm not allowed to have cameras on the truck now. So yeah, if I was to see it at a nice difference. Now, as close as I was up on the scene before, no, I would hit the gas. That's what I would do. I'm not gonna lie about that. I would take off. But if I can see him at a nice difference, yeah, I would love to record.

18:25 This thing absolutely well. Well, I hope that maybe you'll you're you'll be able to get that chance again. I mean, there are so many truckers out there that have sightings that I've talked to. It is absolutely intense. But it doesn't make sense spending so much time on the road. But Gary is so good to talk to you again. Thank you so much for coming up and for sharing your story again. Yep, thank you, yes, sir, all right. Good stuff is good talking to Gary again. He's a cool story and you can look it up. I believe it's on the bf r L. Let's see ll Is here.

19:06 What's up with ll? Hey? L? How are you hey? How's it going awesome? Did you have something to share, encounter anything like that? Yeah? Yeah, so I didn't see him, I didn't see him with my eyes, but I did have an encounter. I wanted to share it. That's awesome. Before we get started, do you mind if I potentially use this audio on my podcast. Yeah, go for it, man, no. Problem, all right, Yeah, feel free to share what you experienced. Yeah. So I live in northern California and there's you know, you know, surrounded by nothing but redwood trees in a forest as soon as you get out of town. So one of my one of my close friends, he's a Native American guy, told me a story a long time ago about seeing a seeing a sasquatch. Him and his whole family were up in the mountains and and his whole family saw this sasquatch up in the mountains in this particular area. But I can't name the area because it's like like a sacred like a special place to them.

20:25 You know, I totally got you the exact area. But he said that they see in a sasquatch up there when they were young. But it wasn't just him, it was like his whole family saw it. And uh and so uh anyways, years years late, you know, he because that happened when he was like younger, like a kid, and but his whole family saw it. And then years later after I met him and everything, he told me the story and stuff, and so several years went by and my girlfriend at the time wanted to go camp up you know, pretty close to this same area, you know, and she wanted to go for a hike up there, you know. And she was real into the outdoors and hiking and stuff like that. So she got me to go with her up there, and and it's pretty much up in the middle of nowhere. It's high up in the mountains and it's one of the highest places around here actually from what I understand, elevation wise. But she got me to go up there, and there's nothing, there's nothing around up there. It's just like some old logging roads, you know, and you know, the pave the pavement actually stops, you know, and it just turns into gravel and old logging roads and and trails and stuff like that. So

21:55 we went camping up there, and uh, and we picked this spot that it was like basically overlooking the valley, but it was like it's hard to explain, it was like sticking out and so it was like surrounded. It was like you could walk out on this little peninsula, almost like a peninsula sticking out where you were like surrounded by basically cliff on around all sides, you know. So it was like a peninsula sticking out, but it was overlooking the whole valley and it was covered with like a gravel. And so we ended up camping right there in that gravelly spot and throwing up our little tent there, and and then so we didn't want to have a fire. We didn't have a fire that night.

22:43 We actually just put a little candle out and uh and had our little glasses of wine and our little meal there and went to bed and uh and we had both and she knew my friend too. We had both heard his story about seeing the bigfoot up there. But uh so we went to bed, you know, not not thinking anything of it. And then uh oh, and I should say earlier in the day we kept hearing sounds like but it would just sounded like, you know, like we figured it with some animal or something like. We kept hearing like, uh like when we first got there and we were setting up camp, we'd hear like, you know, gravel falling down the cliff over here, or some you know rustling of bushes over there, that kind of thing, you know, but nothing unusual, just like animal sounds, you know. And uh So anyway, we had our little uh glass of wine and meal and stuff and went to bed. And then like as soon as uh as soon as we got in our tent and got in our sleeping bags and went to bed, we start hearing these footsteps in the gravel, just like from from a distance off. But it sounded like like really heavy crunching sound, you know, because it was, like, like I said, it was all gravel, so it was just like crunch, crunch, crunch, you know, like really heavy footsteps, and the footsteps just start getting But there's nothing out there. There's no houses, there's no like campsites, there's just nothing.

24:10 You know. We didn't see any other cars or camping or anybody out in the whole area. It's way up in the middle of nowhere in the mountains. And so we hear crunch, crunch, crunch, just getting closer and closer, but like just real slow steps, just one after the other one. And you could hear this just getting closer and closer and closer to our tent, and until the point where it sounded like whatever this was was like standing like right over us, because that's how close the footsteps got. And at that point, I'm like losing my shoes. I didn't know what this was. I'm thinking because it's like some like mass murderer standing over us with a gun or something like what's going on here?

24:52 You know? It was just real creepy, you know, real creepy feeling, you know. And and I don't know going on. And my girlfriend, I don't know why she was so brave about it, because I'm like pee and my pants practically not saying anything, but just like frozen, you know. And uh, and actually I started praying, to be perfectly honest, I started praying because that sounded because something was standing over a tent, you know, in this dark, pitch black out middle of nowhere. And that's so I'm by the time I like stopped being frozen, I started praying, and she went over there and and like just ripped open the the fly and like popped her head out all like all in one motion. In the time it took her to just rip open the zipper like that fast as zoop, I heard this thing take two huge steps like crunch, crunch, and then a slide like I could see what it did in my head just from the sound it like slid on its knee, and it just so happened that there was like this, uh, because you gotta think I was freaking out, but she wasn't acting super scared. It was like she didn't It was almost like she didn't believe it, you know. But I was like freaking out, and so my senses were all like super heightened, you know what I'm saying. Like I was here listening to every little detail and just laying there silently, you know.

26:19 And uh, and it sounded like just in that quick instant of her ripping open the fly, I heard I heard crunch crunch, and then like a slide on the ground, and she like ripped it open and popped her head out as quick as she possibly could, looked around and said she couldn't see anything. And then and she looked around for a minute or two. She didn't get out attend. She just like popped her head out, looked around, didn't see anything, waited a few seconds, and then closed it back up. And then right after she closed it up, we heard the crunch, crunch, crunch slowly. It didn't start right away like the second she zipped it up, but just like a couple minutes later, like as soon as like she's it up and then waited a couple of minutes, didn't hear nothing. Then I started listening again. You could hear that crunching sound slowly going away, going away, and going away. And I stayed awake all night worrying, like I couldn't I couldn't even go back to sleep after that, and uh, I think I maybe got a little finally fell asleep for maybe an hour or two early in the morning kind of thing. But she went to sleep again.

27:22 And then the morning we got up, it looked and you could see these big old impressions in the gravel. They were it wasn't like mud, you know, it was gravel, so like it wasn't a super clear footprint, but you could see these big flat press impressions still, you know that were like bigger, way bigger than my foot, you know, in the gravel. And so we I followed those back and you could see the slide mark, and it just so happened to be, uh, there was this rock pile. Uh like it was kind of like they were doing some rock quarrying up there at one time, maybe from the road or something. But uh, but there was like this big pile of rocks that was fairly near our tent.

28:04 And the slidemark was like right behind it, like like whatever this thing was had tookn a couple huge steps and slid on the ground like right and got in a position right behind this rock pile. And then uh, and so that was it. But it was up in that exact area where my friend said his whole family saw that big foot. And then like we went for a hike that day and and this part I still to this day, I'm not sure if it was just if it was just in my imagination. Could I even see that again or what. But like when we got like after hiking for maybe like I don't know, an hour, a half hour or something, we looked back to the area that we had been camping, you know, because there was like this big open rock face like overlooking where we were camping on this little peninsula. So it was like up above where we are camping, like right directly above it. And I don't know if it was just the perfect lighting. I think if you didn't see it at the right time of day, you wouldn't see it, you know, But from the way the sun was hitting that rock formation right above where we were camping, it just like a looked like a full on bigfoot head and shoulders, big old brow ridge and just like a bust, you know, like head and shoulders overlooking the whole area where we were camping right there. Like it had the lips, the nose, the big old brow ridge, the shoulders, no neck, you know what I'm saying. It just looked like a perfect bigfoot bust. And I don't know if it was

29:34 just the you know, it had to be just the way the light was hitting it just perfectly, you know what I mean. It makes me want to kind of go back there just to see if I could get a picture of that the right time of day, you know what I mean. Oh? Yeah, I mean that was it. Man. It freaked me out. Man. Wow. Man, it's stories like that where it just feels like, you know, your heart's gonna come out of your chest when you're in this situation like that. And I mean, good on you for making it through. I can't imagine going through something like that knowing that whatever it was was right above your tent. Yeah wild wild Yeah. Man, I was freaking out.

30:15 Man. I don't know how she wasn't so scared like I was. She didn't seem like she held it against me or nothing. Man, she was cool, but I just I don't know, man, I was like, sounds like why were you scared? It would be interesting if you go to a website like bigfootmap dot com, the big Foot Mapping Project and find the area that you were at see if there's any like sightings or anything nearby, because I know you're saying that you can't really mention the area because it is as it's pretty held sacred. Well, there's there's bigfoot sitans all over that whole area and my whole area in general, you know, because I'm up here at Northern Cala, so we're right by Trinity County and you know, up there by the reservation, that whole area, like you know, there's they have tons of big foot sidings, you know.

31:11 Oh sure, sure, yeah, that whole that whole area is is crazy. I think we're thinking of the same area. But man, ll thank you so much for coming, for coming up. Keep me in mind if anything else happens, or if you're able to, you know, try to get back to that area and take a picture and do you see something that looks like a bigfoot? That would be kind of cool area. But yeah, you can always contact me at a Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com. But it's been a pleasure chatting with you tonight. Yeah, okay, thanks man, sounds good. One other thing is, like I've heard stories from some of my other native friends that have Okay, they've said, like I don't want to slaughter their their story, but I've heard things like, you know, hundreds maybe thousands of years ago, they'd said like they would actually come mount and participate in ceremonies with the people and like dance and things like that.

32:06 If I remember right, something they said, something happened, there was some event happened, and then they went into hiding kind of thing. And then the other thing I was going to mention is I've heard that they have some type of like earth magic that they like, some actual magic they're able to use to like camouflage themselves. You know, that's extremely interesting. I can tell you. I've interviewed a few what used to be considered medicine, man, they're called something different now. But one from well, let's just say, different tribes across the US, and both of them as well had stories about there are certain ceremonies and usually when they're performing their ceremonies, they will see a sasquatch on the edge of the ceremony that involves drums.

32:59 Is very very interesting. I haven't heard the second thing that you've mentioned there, but you know, I really heard some interesting things over the years. I remember talking to an individual his name was Henry Franzoni, who's no longer with us, but he had told me in an interview that the Native Americans in his area of the Pacific Northwest, they would actually say that the sasquatch were able to control the movements of your body, and they could even control you to lock off a cliff if they wanted to. Very very interesting stuff when you bring the Native American side into things, and I think there's a lot that we can learn from passed down oral traditions for sure.

33:46 Thank you for sharing that. Yeah, yeah, man, they're supposed to have some type of some type of like spiritual powers or something that allows them to do that kind of stuff. I don't know. That's what I've heard too, So thanks. Absolutely, Yes, sir. Well, maybe we'll talk again someday. But I have a good one man, you too, Benfica wants to come up and share here. It looks like, how's it going. It's going good. Did you have an experience you'd like to share? No, I was. I was going down the road on the highway and with my mother, okay, and she she was driving. My mother's driving, and I have a lift across the wall we river in South Carolina, the war Weed River, and I throw the bigfoot.

34:42 I'll bed. He was humongous getting come from the water, going back into the woods. I said, Mama, that's a bigfoot. That's a bigfoot. And if you did, I'm not gonna look out. I'm driving his car. But I saw him. Hey, I remember that for the rest of my life. But wow, but I. Do. I did see him. I will remember that today I die. And where did you say that was? And uh, it's going toward Columbia, South Carolina. Oh okay, Columbia, South Carolina. Cool cool, cool? Wow.

35:23 So you didn't actually see yourself, but the other person in the car did. Yeah, yeah, I saw it. My other person that was my mother, and she was driving. She had her or roll, I go roll. But I saw it and I saw I said, mob, that's a big foot. How old were you when you had the setting? Oh? My about my twenty thirty. Twenty and thirty going into twenty to thirty years old. Yeah, okay, gosh, can you explain what you saw? Do you remember any details about that?

36:05 No, I'm just you know. We were going across the Row River and you, oh, look big I want to see what I could see in the river. And then I kept going and then I think, I said, that looks like a bigfoot, and so you know, I kept looking at it. It was going back into the woods. I guess it's been fishing or whatever it gets. It gets you, it caught its food, is going back into the woods. I said, I don't believe this. I don't believe this, but I saw a bigfoot.

36:49 Is this the first time that you've told this story or have you told it to people before? No, the first time. This is the first time. Wow, this is a really big deal. Thank you for for sharing this. Do you remember the color of the hair? It all? It was black? It's brown? Okay, How how tall would you say it was? Ooh, Han Mercy, he I know he had be least ten ten leven feet tall. Yes, he was big. He's big. Do you mind if I use this audio for my podcast about bigfoot as well? No, No, I do not that.

37:31 So you're saying that's that's okay, Yeah, that's okay. Okay. So did you have a did you look at it from the side then, or were you able to see the face at all? No, that he was going back in through the woods. Okay. So you saw the back of it, the. Back of it, and I saw the back of it because you know, I guess he gets he did a highway. Yeah, but he told used to. I guess it used to all the traffic on the highway you used to, so it doesn't bother him. So I guess it got a fish or whatever he had to get.

38:14 He went back back into the woods. Oh, yes, ma'am, Yes, ma'am. Do you remember anything weird about the way that it was walking towards the woods, about its kid at all? No? Did did just walk right? It's like it's like you and I will walk. It's walking okay. So was it on two legs or four legs? Two? Two legs? Okay? Do you remember anything about its arms at all? Long? Long? How long would you. Say bye bye? Bye? H bye bye? A little bit longer than what what I all to be like?

38:54 Okay? Atle bit longer, so longer than scotcha. Yeah, were you able to see? Ah? Was there a shape to its head at all? No? It it's like I got like like I I it had recogitized. Ah. But bye bye, I'll I can see what he was going back into into the woods, and so I can see. Okay, gotcha? Do you remember anything? Was it muscular looking? Did it look like a football player or a basketball player? Uh? By a football player? Okay, gotcha? Uh it was very muscular then.

39:39 Yes, yes, I said, Bob, But that's a big Foot. And I'll keep my eyes on this roll and I'm not going to see what there is. I'll keep my eyes on the rope. I'm right in the Uh. I've written the tourist book about Bigfoot. It's a tourist book. But but yeah, but you know, I mean I like Bigfoot. I'll be, I'll be. I really appreciate him. What's the name of the book?

40:20 Well, I have really named it. Yeah? Oh so you haven't you you're working on it right now? Yes, yes, yeah, I was really working on it. Life in Times of Mother Bigfoot, Mother big. Diff When when you get that release, can you send me an email or message on this platform about it so that I can check it out and share it. But yes, I will, I will. How did you How did you feel after you had that sighting of the Bigfoot that day?

41:01 I really, I think I don't believe I did see it. My I didn't believe. I biggie was I believe that. I'm I think Marbles so now and Baba, I'm going to traffic and she's. Going to traffic. So but you know, but but I saw it. I saw it. That's incredible. And thank you so much for sharing. I mean, for the first time, you're finally sharing what you saw that day. Yes, I really appreciate that. Thank you, Vivica, thank you. All right, all right, you take care bye man.

41:41 All right, But that was absolutely magical. That was That was one of the most magical encounters I've ever heard in my life. I believe her one hundred percent, one hundred percent, one thousand percent. Loadmaster, I remember this guy totally. Load Master. How are you We've talked before, right. Yeah, we've talked before. I was gonna I was gonna give you a little update on some information that I found out. Oh absolutely, do you do you mind if I potentially use this audio for the podcast.

42:22 Sure that's fine. Cool, Yeah, the feel free to share what you've got going on. Uh well, yeah, I don't know if you want me to go back over the story that that we shared earlier for you and sure maybe yeah. Get everybody caught up all right. Uh. Where I used to live is in Mariposa County about oh. I lived probably about fifteen miles south of Yosemite National Park. Lived in a very very small wooded area. Closest neighbor was about three and a half miles away. You know, went to We're at the grade school with the you know, at least six seven grades with the same teacher.

43:06 The same people. So very small knit community, even though it has grown a little bit. But off of Highway one thirty two that heads up towards Yusemite and connects to Highway one twenty that comes out of Groveland, there's an area. There's a place called Buck Meadows, and we used to own a gas station and a kind of like a little convenience store way back in the day. You know, we got a lot of traffic from people that were coming in and out of the main gate there at Yosemite. But for some of us that lived up there.

43:47 That area had some of the best you know, natural fishing that you could ever dream of, you know, and being young kids summertime, you know, you're exploring. So one day, about five or six of us decided that we were going to try to reach this this meadow that had like a not really a pond, but really wide opening of the Sacramento River, or not the Sacramento River, but the Merced River that comes out of Yosemite. It's a very hard, hard place to get into. So we decided to do it on horseback one day. And so we're we're.

44:29 Probably about maybe an hour. Into the ride and probably about maybe a mile and a half away from our goal that we wanted to get to. And I grew up with a lot of mee Walk Indians that from that area, you know, and to them, you know, Bigfoot is just like another tale that's told by their grandparents or their elders that have been passed down from generations to generations to generations, and there's a lot of a lot. Of belief in it. These these people believe in it wholeheartedly. And this area where we were going into, you know, matter of fact, there was actually a couple of Indian friends that I grew up with that was with us.

45:15 That day, and we got up to this one meadow. And the horses started to get spooked, the horses, and we were all joking around, you know, we're just waiting to, you know, basically get up there to go fishing, kind of like a kind of like a three hour ride for about a half hour fishing just so we can get back. So we didn't really want to waste too much time. So we get up there and the horses are really starting. To get bugged out. And one of my friends he's like, you know, he's having a hard time with his horse. It wasn't his horse, it was a one that he had borrowed from a friend. So the horse didn't really want him on there. And the horse was starting to get really spooked, and then and then it started hitting us. We the odor kind of the breeze kind of got us. And the odor was like, I mean, I've been I've been in a combat, I've seen a lot of death. I've seen I've been part of rescue teams up there that have found bodies that have been you know, out in the sun for days, and the smell is something that's very unique.

46:23 But this was different. This smell kind of like once it got into your nose, it was just like like you could never get it out. You could never get this smell out of your nose. And it was just putrid. I mean, there was a couple of us that was actually they were throwing up. It was just stunk like like something we. Never smelled for. And one of the one of the guys, started looking around at the around the tree line of this meadow and we started noticing that some of these sugar pines that you know, they don't get that tall. They get about maybe fifteen twenty maybe thirty feet if you get lucky, but about i'd say about ten feet up. They're about maybe four inches in diameter maybe, And these trees were just snapped like they were twigs. But I mean, there wasn't just one. You could tell you swine one and then okay, there's another one, and there's another one, and there's another one. And we started figuring out that it pretty much covered this whole meadow. And then one of our Indian friends that was with us, he kind of figured out what it was and he was telling us we got to go. We got to turn around. We have to leave right now, and we're like, what's the deal.

47:46 I says, well, we've stumbled into some territory. It was something that don't want to stay here. I mean, this is probably. An area where we were at probably the last time probably humans were up in there other than a bunch of crazy kids trying to find a stream to fish in. We're probably back during the days when they did a lot of hydro mining up there. They did a ton of hydro mining up there, just southeast Semity. I mean they used the Merced River since that area that comes out of the park is pretty steep, so you get a pretty good flow of water so you can I don't know if any of you guys have ever seen any kind of like back in the history days, back in like the eighteen hundreds, you know, late eighteen hundreds, when they were hydro mining that whole area California. And there's there's been documentation in the in the museum in Mariposa.

48:46 There was actually a diary of a young girl that lived near Coulterville that's close to that area, and it has a couple of entries into this this log book or this this diary of this girl about you know, hairy men coming down and destroying hydro mining equipment, you know, which at the day was like you know, metal pipes that ran down the hill lines that you know, the farther they went down, the smaller the diameter the pipe would get until you got like a fire hose at the other end. And that's what they just used, that that fire hose and just sprayed the land and all the dirt to try to break up as much dirt as they could to get it down into the river.

49:39 And then the Chinese would come through and they would pan through the gold try to find you know, as much goal as they could. And they did. They found a lot of gold, but they. Also got into areas where they had sustained a lot of damage. I mean there was there was something up there that was coming down and destroying some of the equipm I mean sometimes they were like. Destroying cabins. I'm running the people out of there, just I mean, they knew what they were doing. These these these creatures, they know what they're doing. They're not stupid. They're not like a normal animal or a bear or whatever that they They've got some intelligence there. They want you out. They want you out. So I reached out to a friend of mine. You know, we were just talking about it after I shared this.

50:26 With you, and and. And he was like he'd almost forgotten about it. And he was like, oh yeah, yeah, He's like and then he and then he reminded me of a of a of another story that we had up there in that same area where a big storm, a big storm, I mean it was like raining and winding and stuff like that, and that area had had got a lot of a lot of a lot of storm damage. And storms will do just like any other animal, it'll it'll make a move to a different area just to get away from the storm. And a lot of people up there, there was a lot of sightings on that on that on that storm, there's a lot of people that my grandpa drove a tow truck up there. So he picked up one guy and he's like, oh, yeah, they're they're migrating right now because of the storm.

51:16 They're getting there. They're trying to get down out of the gully and and try to get up into higher ground. Wow. And and then you know, it does you. Know, and this this guy that I just talked to, he's a couple of weeks ago. He's like, yeah, there's still there's still signs of that stuff up there, and and we were talking like, man, this would be like a challenge for somebody. If somebody wants to really find I think they could probably go up there and spend some time and actually encounter Bigfoot. I think that within my my whole hearted I think that they're up there. And according to the mewalk Indians. That are up there in that area, they claim that that area just south of the park is like they call it, I remember the word, but it's like a family word for Meanwhile, it's it's it's basically where Bigfoot congregates.

52:12 They they raise their young up there. They they they. Just basically have been living up there for for years and it's a it's an area that you cannot get to. I mean even when there's fires that happened through there. Even some of the tankers and some of the helicopters that fight fires have a hard time getting up in there. And it's just really nasty. It's it's just it's just an area just south of the park. It wasn't wasn't cut out like Yusemite Park by glaciers, but probably got a lot of the tail end of that that period of the world, you. Know, back in the day.

52:52 So it's just one of the hospitable areas of California, the other California that you can find. And I think it's a I think it's a safe place for them. I think it's a refuge fore. I think they do migrate along the Sierra Nevadas to get up into like in the Klamath Fall areas and then across into the Cascades, and I think they do. I think they do actually migrate. And I've actually heard of people that track wolves. They track wolves up and down the West coast or the whole Northwest. I mean, we just got a notification about a couple months ago about I can't I don't remember the number of the wolf, but he's been seen migrating south with a herd of females, which he normally does.

53:48 But there's been some of these trackers that track these wolves that have seen things that like, what's that traveling with these wolves? It looks almost like a bear, But a bear doesn't, you know, travel through large dense areas on their back, on their high you know, standing up and and and the funny part is that, or the curious part is they're finding little ones, not just big but little ones, young wings. What to call them. I can't remember the word for it from the me walks, but it's a young wing. So I think that that area up there, and I think that's why it's so protected by them, because they. Do have their young up there. Sure, And that whole area up there, I think if if I live up farther north, and I don't think I could.

54:35 I mean, I could point on a map where it's at. But if if somebody was to try to like get up into the park basically and follow the river down, it's gonna take you well, and you're gonna need some equipment. You're gonna have to be a very very skilled outdoorsman to get through there. But I think if if somebody's up for the challenge and they really want to put a rest of this proofs, if they can make it in and make it out, I think they can encounter bigfoot. I think they can encounter bigfoot. I think they can encounter females. I think they can encounter just like I said, the younglings. Because there's a lot of things that's that's been documented up in that area, and and it's been passed off as people because of the size. But it's no mistaking you know, there's a difference between a ten year old boy running through the woods and say, like a ten year old bigfoot running through.

55:32 The absolutely absolutely, but that area, you know, I just for my friend to reaffirmed for me that, oh yeah, that's you know, and it's it's just like it's it's something that they know up there, and they've known it for years. They don't bother with it. They like, hey, he's on his own. He doesn't come tear up my stuff. I don't come up and tear up his stuff. But living up there as long as I did, there's there's been a lot of stuff up there that's happen and that that's just not understandable. It's not explainable. It's it's hard to explain unless you've been there. Uh, you know. The terrain is just like I mean, we're talking like like South American jungle like type stuff. The canopy is is very very thick with oaks and pines and a lot of granite. There's a lot of granite that that that uh, just big canyons, big gullies, and you get in there, you might not make it out. I mean, nowadays, technology with the way satellite phones and the way just phone services as it is now, would probably be a whole lot easier to get into that area and get out nowadays than it was back when I grew up there. Oh, I mean, we just stumbled on it by accident. And I won't ever go up there ever again. But I know that that that whole episode that we had up there will be with me for the rest of them my life. And I've never come across anything that smelt

57:03 that bad since then. But you know, and it's it's not like it's not like the like on tiktoking. Now you have a lot of these bigfoot the ai stuff that looks more like a gorilla than. Anything else, And it's not like that. It's just not like that. They're they're more they're more of a they're more of a humanoid looking creature than anything else. I mean, according to I mean, there's a lot of a friend of mine who is a. Me walk he he he believes in it. He believes in it, and so he thinks that there's a lot of reincarnation. That goes into that. A lot of me Walk warriors that died way back in the day, you know, have been reincarnated and that's who they're and they come back as protectors of the land.

57:49 But yeah, somebody wants to go up there, I would definitely I would suggest that if you want to find it, if you're willing to go up there and find it, I think he can't. I still think he can. And there's a lot of people. Up there that will tell you you're a fool for trying, because you just might find him. And if if it is an area that have the young wings and females, they're going to protect it with everything that they have. Yeah, you're walking into a very dangerous situation, no doubt. Oh yeah. Yeah. And and I think that the that the markings with the trees and the smell, that's just a big time warning that you're you're entering in an area that you don't need to be.

58:36 And the only the only. Indigenous people up there, like I said, are the me Walks, and they're the only ones that that I know of that have a history of this, you know. And yeah, I mean I would I would really love to see somebody go up in there and see what they could find. I'd love to see it be recorded and documented, to be honest with you, because the Buerau of Land Management they they don't even go up in there for forestry service. They wouldn't even go up in there. Oh wow, it's it's just a yeah, it's very uncharted, untouched territory. Maybe you might get a few gold miners. There's been a few people that's gone up there that try to find because you know, I don't think they got all the gold. There's got to be some left, but it's just getting to it. I mean, I've had a claim myself up and not in that area about maybe ten miles south of that area where I started in two inches of water and finish in bedrock and be like almost eight feet deep in the water using snorkel and scuba gear just to dredge the gold out of these cracks and stuff.

59:47 So, you know, if. Somebody is a gold miner and they want to go up there and find some gold, maybe look around for bigfoot. Hey you might you never know what you might find. You never know. Man Loadmaster is great to talk to you, and thank you so much for sharing sharing your account again and update. I appreciate you coming up, sir. Yeah, I'm a firm believer. I don't think anybody's going to change my mind. You know, I know what I saw, I know what I smelled, and I know where I was at. And like I said, I've been at just about every conflict that we've been in between eighty five and twenty eleven when I was in the military, so I've seen a lot of stuff, but I've still there's not been one thing that's taught that. And now, like I said, I was ten years old at the time and that was fifty years ago.

1:00:38 Wow. Wow. Well keep us up to date with if you have any updates in the future, sir. But thank you so much for coming up. Hey, no problem, no problem for having me. Good stuff. Good to talk to load Master again. Thanks for listening to the Big for Society podcast. The things you heard today are intense, unscripted and from all corners of the world. Hope you enjoyed and if you have your own story to share, please reach out to me email Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com. Your story might be the one that is able to help someone else work through their traumatic events that they've experienced as a part of this subject. If you're listening to us on Apple or Spotify, please make sure you're following the show there and leave us a five star positive review as it does help other people find us through the algorithm.

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