July 16, 2025

We Saw Them Watching Us: A Night in Sasquatch Valley

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Season 1

What happens when a longtime outdoorsman encounters not one — but three — massive, humanoid figures in the fog-shrouded woods of Virginia's George Washington National Forest? In this gripping and eerie episode, we sit down with Daniel Benoit, founder of the East Coast Bigfoot Researchers Organization. Daniel recounts his unforgettable 2014 encounter deep in the Shenandoah Valley, where glowing yellow eyes, strange swaying motions, and a chilling sense of being watched confirmed decades of research and speculation. From sightings in the Blue Ridge Mountains to a mysterious roadside cover-up near Petersburg, VA, this episode dives into the strange and compelling world of East Coast Sasquatch activity.
You’ll hear about a towering 8-foot creature, the theory of a Sasquatch “Virginia Triangle,” and the moment Daniel realized — they weren’t just passing through.
A must-listen for serious Bigfoot believers, curious skeptics, and anyone who’s ever felt the forest looking back.

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You're listening to Bigfoot Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. Tonight's

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story doesn't come from the Pacific Northwest, or even the

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West at all. It comes from Virginia, a place many

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underestimate when it comes to Sasquatch. But for Daniel Benoi,

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founder of the East Coast Bigfoot Researchers Organization, the truth

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is undeniable. In twenty fourteen, Daniel and his team were

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walking back from a lake the George Washington National Forest

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when they saw them, three of them, glowing yellow eyes,

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broad shoulders in a movement no animal could mimic. Later,

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hit hear footsteps in the dark, tree knocks, heavy bipudal pacing,

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and maybe strangest of all, the possible cover up of

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a body on the side of I ninety five. This

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is the story of what's hiding in the Shanandoah Valley.

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So stay with us, all right, Bigfoot Society. We got

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the privilege of talking to Daniel ben Wa today from

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the ECBRO or East Coast Bigfoot Researchers Organization. He's down

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there in the great state of Virginia. So how's it

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going today, Daniel?

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I tell you what For a Saturday, beautiful day. It's

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going well. I can't complain. It was actually called for

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rain all weekend, but it's nothing but beautiful temperatures and

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nice skies right now. So yeah, going good.

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I'm loving it. It's pretty nice up here in Iowa

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as well. But but man, Daniel, you're in a state

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I've been hearing a little bit from lately. I've had

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a few interviews of people don Virginia. You've got some

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weird stuff going down in that state. I'll tell you what, man.

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Well, I will tell you. I know a lot of

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the weirdness comes out of the West Virginia, well out

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of West Virginia itself. But where I live here in Virginia,

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I'm not far from West Virginia. So I'm like in

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the western part of the state here in the Shenando Valley.

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And you know, over the years since I've been involved

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with a Bigfoot research, I've gathered a lot of reports,

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you know, not far from my very own home here,

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and you know, so, and I spent a lot of

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time on in the National Force, which basically borders the

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West Virginia line. And yeah, there is a lot of

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strangers here. I mean, I've heard some weird things. Myself.

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I try to say focus more on the big foot

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subject because that's my main I guess copp of Tea

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is you want to pursue, you know, say, but yeah,

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I mean you get some crazy stuff here and there

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on occasions, I've heard some stories from friends that told

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me some things here and there. But but yeah, again,

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bigfoot is my main focus because there's a lot of

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bigfoot reports and activity and a lot of activity and

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behaviors that we can contribute to a bigfoot or that

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we like to contribute to a big foot anyway.

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Yeah, absolutely, I mean, and that's our main focus as well.

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You know, we try to keep it one hundred percent bigfoot. Sometimes,

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you know, we have some things sneak in on the side,

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which is fine, but our main interviews are always focused

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on that. But you know, Daniel, being a researcher down there,

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I always like to to ask researchers, what was it

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that first got you into the subject and to start

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going out and looking for this.

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Well, to be honest with you, it was a big

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curiosity and as I've told people before, I believe this

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sparked it for a lot of people, you know, a

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lot of people are familiar with this. Then again, some

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people have never heard of it. But everybody's in the

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Bigfort community is well familiar with it. But the nineteen

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sixty seven Roger Patterson and Bob Gimlin footage that was

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taken out of Bluff Creek, California. And you know, that

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video has been around since again nineteen sixty seven, and

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that footage has been dissected left and right. Science has

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been involved, and you know all kinds of professional film

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analysis have been conducted with that film, and you know, nothing,

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nothing till this day, could debunk it. Now, for those

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who are familiar with that video footage, they know that

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there's been rumors pointed out with that was supposedly people

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involved in a costume, the rumors of a costume, But

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you don't to Here's the thing, that costume never came

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about that. You know, if there was a costume, it's

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probably the best costume that was ever made or fabricated,

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because Hollywood and Disney both admitted to saying that we

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don't have nothing that looks that good. The best they

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had back then was what came out back in nineteen

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sixty eight, a whole year later from the Planet, the

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Other Eights the first release of that movie. So learning

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the details and some information behind that film, that was

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a big part of what opened my eyes out. Like wow,

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it opened up a strong curiosity and it had me

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starting to go out more looking. And you know what

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turned into that cure was started off as a strong curiosity,

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a little spark, and that spark grew into a major

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serious passion. And uh so I could honestly say, yes,

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the Roger Patterson, Bob gimme the footage was a big

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part of what got me involved. So yeah, of course,

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grown up, you know, you would hear about Bigfoot this

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and Bigfoot of that, and maybe you know, like an

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occasional movie here and there, but yeah, it's but Bigfoot

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was something I never really dwelt on until I've seen

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that film, and you know, it opened up the whole

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new role. I mean, it really did. And I'm somebody

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that grew up in the outdoors ever since I was

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a little kid. I was either playing out the woods,

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hiking or hunting with dad, you know, so I was

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well familiar in her quakings with Wilf Daniel.

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That your story that you just shared of being inspired

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by the Patterson Gimlin film is one that a lot

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of other people can relate to. I know I can

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relate to it myself. By was there a time when

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you started to notice that, Okay, this thing that I

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thought was in California is also in my state of

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Virginia as well.

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Well. Actually, yeah, the thing is not long after I

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got involved and really doing some studies and research. I

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actually later on got got involved and jumped on social

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media for the first time. And I had no idea.

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When I started exploring social media, learning about these different

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groups and forums, I ended up finding out that there

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was so many more people involved. I had no idea.

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Then I started learning about a local researcher that I got.

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Involved with, because now before I hooked up with this individual,

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you know, I was out in the field looking for myself,

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you know, because a lot of my research actually took

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place up in my earlier parts of research took place up.

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In Pennsylvania, and then of course came down here to

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Virginia to really focus and and uh but yeah, finding out,

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you know, getting connected with the local researcher, you know,

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listening to some of the stories he shared and the

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reports he shared, and then other people When I started

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putting myself out there, more and more Virginians came forward,

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you know, uh, little by little, you know, it didn't

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all happen in one big boom, but so yeah, over

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a period of time, I started meeting other like minded people,

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people that were interested enthusiasts, and those who claimed to

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be other researchers, you know. And I started listening to

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some of them. You know, a couple of them had

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some stories that happened here in Virginia. Oh good, okay,

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so they gave me some hopes. So, okay, there's got

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to be something going on here because we have a

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lot of force. And that's another thing, you know, you're

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talking about comparing the West Coast to the East Coast.

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The more I studied, the more I looked into reports,

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the sightings, uh just here on the East Coast alone,

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I was like, well, everything's so popular out west. The

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East Coast is highly underestimated, it really is. And I

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was like, yeah, we don't have the Pacific Northwest, but

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we have you know, we have the George Washington National Forests,

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alligating mountains, the h the Appalachian Trio. I mean, all

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these forts all entered flying and connect in one way,

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shape or form. You know, the Blue Ridge Mountains is

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in my backyard, so yeah, there's so much terrain around here,

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there's so much force that you know, there's plenty of

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places for something elusive and highly intelligent that remain so.

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And then, you know, the more I got involved in

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the field of research and exploring, I mean I was

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starting to find things that some people contributing to bigfoot.

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You know, you know that I was a little younger

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and new and newly involved with all this. Of course,

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I was like a lot of other people that are

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pointing fingers of everything and calling it bigfoot activity, which

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was exciting, uh the look at it that way. But

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then I was like, you know, I want the truth.

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So you know, my mindset is to be more objective

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on the subject. You know, it's like because things when

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the way I started looking at things. I grew up

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knowing wildlife and understanding wildlife. But as I gotten more

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involved with the Bigfoot research, I went back to focusing

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on wildlife and learning about the different species of wildlife

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that existed in habit are force, learning their behaviors, learning

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their diets, learning their routines. And the more I looked

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into what they do and what they're known for doing.

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I was like, wow, everything a bear does, or even

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a deer, or you know, whatever it may be. I

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was looking at and learning at all these their behaviors

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and realizing a lot of people are saying Bigfoot's doing this.

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But wait a minute, why are they neglecting or forgetting

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our known species of wildlife. So that's where I started

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pointing out. I says, people are saying Bigfoot's doing this,

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but they're not witnessing Bigfoot doing this. They're just assuming

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because that's what's easier for them to believe, is they're

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so caught up, you know, in this field or this subject,

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that everything's got to be Bigfoot. I became known as

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the negative and Nelly because I kept a objective look

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on the subject, you know, and I wanted people to

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understand something. I was like, look, I believe in knowing Bigfoot,

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but I'm not saying he does not exist. I said,

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don't misunderstand what I'm trying to point out here. I mean,

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I want people to understand and think about what they're

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saying and how how they observe things. Because now I'm

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not perfect. I make a lot of mistakes, you know,

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I still do. I mean, I'm forty five years old,

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I'm still learning. But I see other drown adults, you know,

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you know, pointing out things and their mindset to me,

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the way I understand the way they look at things

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and they understand things, it's like their mind has a

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little bit of fantasy going on there, you know, where

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I think they're really lacking a lot of common sense. Sadly,

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I'm you know, I mean, I don't like to put

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it that way, but I feel like they're lacking some

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common sense or the information they've gathered, they've been missing formed.

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You know, that's probably the best way to go about

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throwing it out there.

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So, yeah, that's that's really interesting. So I hear that

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you have a really big focus on making sure what

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we're saying Bigfoot does can actually be verified. Did you

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ever get to the point where you were actually able

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to have a visual of these creatures and see them

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do certain actions.

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Or well, yes and no. I mean I've had a

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few things happened to me without having a visual, But

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then again, I did have a visual back in twenty fourteen. However,

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this particular visual wasn't a clear physical feature looking detail.

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It was long story short. There was five of us

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evolved doing a group hike. Actually it was a group

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camp out, to be honest with you. But we were

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out on a hike that evening where we were maybe

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a mile away from our campsite, and we were actually

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headed back because it was late, it was already dark.

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We were down by the lake in the area, and

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I was like, on the way back, we're headed back,

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working up to the main part of the fourth road

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out of the lake entrance. And as we're coming up

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the forceth Ord. Now keep in mind, we're walking in

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a single fire a line and we all have headlamps

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on it, and we're not trying to keep quiet. We're

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all talking amongst ourselves. And as we're headed up the road,

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you know, you know, interesting, we see a deer walking

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right towards us. And, like I like to tell people,

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I thought that was kind of odd. It's usually for

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a dear to be that close. And when I say

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that close, I'm talking ten feet maybe by the time

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we go reach around ten feet, it just nonchalantly turned

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off and walked away left whatever you're human see later,

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you know, Okay, that was weird and we all saw that.

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I was like, well, whatever, But right as soon as

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we came, uh, just past the point where the geer

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turned off, we're walking and I'm looking on the opposite

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side of the road that we were hiking up, and

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then I need I noticed somethingthing that caught my attention. Now,

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in the National Forest, there's these yellow, random little signs

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that you'll find on trees and random locations, and usually

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all they say is no vehicles beyond this point. So

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that's what I'm thinking I'm seeing because my headlights reflecting

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off of something. Of course, that's what I thought, and

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I'm staring over there. I'm looking in this area and

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trying to get my eyes to focus, and then sure

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enough it became focused because what I saw next was

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it blink, and I was like, what I saw It

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was actually a set of eyes. It was the way

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the glare and the glow was reflecting off from my

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headlamp onto that set of eyes. The glow was like

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it looked like it was kind of close together until

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it became more focus where I saw the two eyes

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and they were like large, yellowish looking eyes. And the

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thing is they were setting kind of low. My bug

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Tracy was right behind me, and Tracy said, Tracy, what

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the heck is the right? And I don't know why.

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The first thought that popped in my head as we're

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both of the he's like, he comes up beside me

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and I'm pointing at it, and the words that came

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out of my mouthfl is that a freaking mountain lion big?

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So a society will be right back after these messages.

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I don't know for a flight that came through my head.

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It was probably because like I said, it was sitting

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a little low, it was right next to a tree,

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and also we're watching it and whatever it was like

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zip off, like it went away kind of quick. And

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then Tracy's like, guys, come on up here. We got

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some eyeshine going on up here. So we get up

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into this spot where we saw that set of eye

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shine and we all regroup and we're looking right down.

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Now that's when I realized was sloped down. It was

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kind of like a slight hill. It sloped down several

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feet then level back out. So now it's you know,

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we're looking into the dark forest there, you know, and

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there's trees, there's bushes and whatnot, and all of a

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sudden between thirty and forty feet out, we're seeing that

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set of eye shine again, and there it is. It

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is standing there, and well, I shouldn't say just standing there,

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because it was actually swaying side to side fairly swiftly,

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which that's interesting. Now we're watching this and like, what

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the heck is this? You know, I'm familiar with all

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the wildlife in this general area, and nothing I could

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think about is coming to mind, coming to mind, nothing's

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popping in my head. So while we're observing this over

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about five or six feet away, another set of eye

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shine appears, saying color eye shine very large, except this

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one here is good about feet tall and the small subject. Yeah,

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for the record, we estimated the small one to be

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around four feet tall. Well, now we got a second one,

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same action eye shine, and this one wasn't doing no movement,

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but when it was looking towards us, you could see

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that it was actually blinking its eyes on occasion. And

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of course some of us had some bright head lamps on,

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so I could see if they're staring directly at us

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and they're getting direct beam of the light, and you're

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all right, yeah, wouldn't you blink to you know? So

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so this is interesting. It's getting issue. We've got two

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subjects with a simple eye shine choos height levels four

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foot and a six foot one. So you know, I'm

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still you know, I'm still puzzled. Uh, you know, I

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didn't know what to think. And because you know, I've

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seen bears at night. Bears have red eyes, every bear,

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black bear, and even the I've never seen a brown

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bear or grizzly, but I've only been told by those

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who experienced them. And I got they got red eyes too.

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When you shine a light arm. Every black layer I

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ever seen had red eyes on them. Now again, these

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were bright yellow looking eyes. And yeah, there's a few

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other species that will have yellow eyes. Raccoons. I've seen

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raccoons very close and there. Their yellow eye reflection is

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kind of like, uh, it's kind of I don't know,

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it's almost shocking word I don't want to say scary,

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But when when you see it for the first time

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and it catches you off guard, you're like, WHOA. Yeah, so, yeah,

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I've seen raccoons their reflection. They do have yellow eyes themselves.

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But however, this whole situation we're watching and I'm scanning

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the woods. You know, everybody's kind of gathering there. They're

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actually making some noises, you know, because they're getting excited.

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But we don't know what we're looking at. Some of

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them are making some noises, maybe trying to trigger response

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from whatever we were looking at. But while everyone's observing,

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I'm scanning over there. I'm looking around and behind the

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bushes some of feet to the right of these two,

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I noticed a third set of eye shine. But this

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third set of eye shine looked like it was directly

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on the ground, at least from the position I was in.

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And I'm staring at this. I was like making sure

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I'm seeing some eyes, And sure enough, it was definitely

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a set of eyes. Now they looked a little the

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coloration looked a little different than the other two. But

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as it started to raise up, Yeah, they started to

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raise up like as if it was either laying on

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the ground or couch down very low, but it started

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to raise up like it was getting ready to go

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from its crouching or laying position to a standing position. Now,

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by the time those set of eyes rose above bushes,

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when it stopped, it was towering over top of the

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six foot one by another two feet. And that's when

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this was like really getting interesting. I was like, okay, now,

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for the record, I had a buddy mind ask the

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place I used to work at at the time. He

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was like, yeah, you saw a family of bears. I said, no,

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these were not no bears. You know, there's definitely no bears.

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And soon after this, with what ended up happening, confirmed

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these were no bears and no other known species of

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animal day exist in those woods. Because as that tall

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one stood up and stopped, we're all seeing it. I

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know Tracy's now. You know a lot of times I

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talked about and I bring up my buddy Tracy because

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he's the one that acknowledged a lot of what we

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were seeing. You know, there was other couples with us.

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We had there was five of us, well six of

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us all together, that's including me. But this tall one.

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I stay focused on this, and I'll glanced over at

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the other ones to make sure that you know they're

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still there and all. And the small ones for the record,

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they staged swaying side to side. But my focus got

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on that tallest one. What is this, my buddy Tracy.

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There I go again, my buddy Tracy. He walked out

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in front of a couple of he's like turned around

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and kind of like, guys, we got squatches. You know

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when you said that that was interesting because I really

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wanted to believe that I really did, but I needed

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something to confirm it for me. I needed some proof.

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I needed to see something. Well, sure enough, that tall

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one actually made a maneuver. It turned to its left

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and took a step or two and then turned back

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facing us. Now, I believe it was the positioning and

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the angle of the lights that hid it at the

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right time, in the right place where you could clearly

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make out the shape of wide, broad shoulders, very wide

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broad shoulders, and a big brown head that sat on

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top of the shoulders. And when I saw that, I

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knew again. I knew for a fact there was no bear.

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I mean, what else could have There's no other known

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species of an animal that have wide broad shot I'm

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talking about a good four plus feet across in a big, fat,

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round ahead sitting on top of the shoulders. To me,

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that personally confirmed it for me that, Okay, we're looking

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at large humanoid. Five people humanoids. So so yeah, after

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this occurred, after we observed this, you know, they all

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seem to turn off and disappear further into the dark. Now,

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this seemed like it was going on for an hour, really,

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I mean, it's just it didn't last that long. It

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was probably maybe ten minutes, but it seemed a whole

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lot longer than that. So after they disappeared, we turned

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off to go look, you know, starting to finish our

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way back to camp. And course, as we're walking, you know,

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you could hear an occasional limb snap or whatever was

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on the ground. There was the oldest couple that was

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with us down from Vermont and Kimmy and Darren. Kimmy,

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she was the only one that ever expressed any type

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of nervousness during this whole situation. To be quite honestly

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with you, out, I think we were all excited. None

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of us had no fear because, like I said, most

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of the whole situation, the whole encounter, we didn't know

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what we were looking at. But Jimmy was like, oh, folle,

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they're just walking through the woods. Of course they're you're

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gonna hear limb snaff or whatever. You know. I said, no,

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they're just walking like we are. They went away from us,

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you know, because you know, in my honest opinion. I

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think when we laid eyes on them and encountered and

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when that encounters started, I just believe they were just

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as curious of us as we were of them. So

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but yeah, we went back to champ and it's funny

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because we were still talking about it, and we were

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still trying to debunk it, even though like we knew

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what we saw, like you know, like why trying to

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debunk it. There was nothing compared this too, And but

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we did end up going back the next day during

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the daytime to that very same spot, and we actually

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did a height comparison, and I will say that what

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we estimated that night of what we were seeing, our

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height estimation was pretty much on point. So we got

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down in a position where we were seeing them. We

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had one or two people up the road. A few

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of us were down there in position to me and

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the gentleman his name is Cliff Stanley. He's probably, I'm

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sick to it tall he was. He's probably like six

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to two, so he's a probable in just tall me,

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me and him being the tall So we got into

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position basically where we were standing behind the bushes where

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the tall one was. Yeah, he was definitely eightkey tall.

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There's no denying there. So and we did look around

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for tracks the grass. The ground was grassy and clumpy

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in most of their area, so the fining tracks in

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that area wouldn't have been defending. So now one thing

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I liked it throw out there. Regarding this, well, keep

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in mind the camp sites around there, they're all primitive

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and right where this whole incident occurred. A whole year later,

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something else happened in those same section of woods, but

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just around the corner. I was camping, and it was

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November twenty fifteen, and I will tell you I was

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camping in one of the camp spots right around the

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corner from this, and there was nobody else in this

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whole area, you know, and you see people camp out

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there during the season, but in this particular area, there

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was only one other spot next to me, which is

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a much bigger spot, and nobody was there. But I

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was in a camp slat by myself, and it was

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probably around ten o'clock at night. And so yeah, while

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while I was there, it was kind of boring because

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it was so quiet. I had the I are going

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and I decided to grab the spotlight. I was like,

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all right, I'm gonna grab the spotlight and walk out

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into the middle of the forest road just to walk

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out there. And keep in mind, as I walked out there,

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I did not have the spotlight turned on. I walked

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out into chartles darkness, and I stand there. I do

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this on occasions, and when I do my group camp house,

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I get others to do it with me sometimes, but

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I do it a lot by myself. I'll stand there

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listen and look around, even though I can't see nothing

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unless there's moonlight out or whatever. I just stand there

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and listen, you know. I kind of let myself blending

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with the darkness. And then sure enough, after a moment

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or so, I started to shine the spotlight, hould the

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trigger on the spotlight and started shining it to my left.

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As soon as I shine light. As soon as I

456
00:26:51.319 --> 00:26:53.559
turned it on, I stooped up a deer. Apparently there

457
00:26:53.599 --> 00:26:55.079
was a deer just inside the tree line over there.

458
00:26:55.119 --> 00:26:57.480
You can hear like jump up and run off on

459
00:26:57.680 --> 00:27:01.119
all fours. But I was like, okay, cool, I spooped

460
00:27:01.119 --> 00:27:04.640
the gear. I continue paying my spot like from my

461
00:27:04.799 --> 00:27:08.079
left to my right, and as I got around the

462
00:27:08.119 --> 00:27:13.039
one and two o'clock position, all of a sudden whatever

463
00:27:13.160 --> 00:27:15.079
was inside the tree line there. And now, for the record,

464
00:27:15.160 --> 00:27:17.519
I never saw this, but I know what I heard.

465
00:27:17.960 --> 00:27:20.799
I know the sound of the steps. What I heard

466
00:27:20.839 --> 00:27:25.720
next was very heavy, very large, and on two feet.

467
00:27:25.960 --> 00:27:31.359
Because what I heard next was a bipedal step. It

468
00:27:31.519 --> 00:27:34.000
was steps that were going away from me. And every

469
00:27:34.000 --> 00:27:36.079
step it took. You hear a crunch and a pump

470
00:27:36.240 --> 00:27:39.559
in each step. And I heard the enough bears. I

471
00:27:39.599 --> 00:27:41.720
tell you, I've been close to bearers. I've heard bears

472
00:27:41.759 --> 00:27:44.559
run off. I heard you know, I've heard bears their movements.

473
00:27:44.680 --> 00:27:48.079
They're very soft and quiet. You almost don't hear of them.

474
00:27:48.279 --> 00:27:54.319
But what I heard next was it wasn't a slow walk,

475
00:27:54.359 --> 00:27:57.279
but it wasn't a fast walk either. And when I

476
00:27:57.319 --> 00:27:59.559
heard this, and keep in mind, because I was by myself,

477
00:28:00.079 --> 00:28:03.039
even though I was, you know, I had a shotgun.

478
00:28:03.119 --> 00:28:06.200
It was back at the campsite. I'm twenty I'm about

479
00:28:06.240 --> 00:28:07.680
from where I'm standing in the middle of the road.

480
00:28:07.680 --> 00:28:11.519
I'm about twenty feet from that tree line, and I'm like,

481
00:28:11.599 --> 00:28:13.680
my heart gets up in my front and I'm starting

482
00:28:13.720 --> 00:28:16.279
to like really kind of like slightly freak out because

483
00:28:16.279 --> 00:28:20.799
I'm by myself. I'm very vulnerable, and I start walking backwards,

484
00:28:20.839 --> 00:28:25.079
back towards my campsite, and I'm with the opposite hand.

485
00:28:25.079 --> 00:28:26.759
I reached down to my keys that were hanging on

486
00:28:26.759 --> 00:28:29.119
my belt to make sure my vehicle was unlocked, just

487
00:28:29.160 --> 00:28:30.960
in case I had to jump in there and take off.

488
00:28:31.920 --> 00:28:35.000
But once I got back into my campsite, it just

489
00:28:35.240 --> 00:28:40.279
all that went away. It's like that fear just like

490
00:28:40.400 --> 00:28:43.799
dropped away from me. I instantly call him right down.

491
00:28:44.680 --> 00:28:47.400
I threw another log too in the campfire, and I

492
00:28:47.519 --> 00:28:51.640
just start to thinking whatever that was, if it meant

493
00:28:51.680 --> 00:28:55.279
any harm to me, had every opportunity to run out

494
00:28:55.359 --> 00:28:58.960
and sack me like a football player, but I had

495
00:28:58.960 --> 00:29:01.559
to keep in mind and remember it was going away

496
00:29:01.559 --> 00:29:04.519
from me, So that there kind of gave me, you know,

497
00:29:04.640 --> 00:29:09.240
like I got to thinking. And So a long story short,

498
00:29:09.319 --> 00:29:12.559
between twenty fourteen and this incident and fifteen being in

499
00:29:12.599 --> 00:29:15.359
the same section of woods and being that there was

500
00:29:15.440 --> 00:29:20.319
deer president in both situations till this very day, I'll

501
00:29:20.319 --> 00:29:23.519
look back and I question what was happening or what

502
00:29:23.640 --> 00:29:27.720
was about to happen, because you know, there's rumors there's

503
00:29:27.720 --> 00:29:32.279
a bullyef that bigfoot dear. So the question I have

504
00:29:32.480 --> 00:29:38.279
in mind, did we or did I interrupt the hunt?

505
00:29:39.799 --> 00:29:42.319
So I don't know. I mean I could say yes,

506
00:29:42.400 --> 00:29:45.160
but I had no proof of that. But so was

507
00:29:45.200 --> 00:29:47.519
it a coincidence that there was there just so happened

508
00:29:47.519 --> 00:29:49.799
to be deer president next to each of these situations?

509
00:29:51.400 --> 00:29:54.160
Big for society, who would be right back after these messages?

510
00:30:10.240 --> 00:30:14.279
So I don't know. It's something I think about, you know.

511
00:30:14.400 --> 00:30:17.839
I mean, I've had large rock thrown at me, you know,

512
00:30:17.920 --> 00:30:21.559
from things I didn't see what food them. You know,

513
00:30:22.240 --> 00:30:25.440
I've heard all kinds of vocalizations over the years, very

514
00:30:25.519 --> 00:30:29.319
few that I could say that were unrecognizable because I

515
00:30:29.359 --> 00:30:33.559
know a lot of sounds of the known wildlife. So

516
00:30:33.599 --> 00:30:36.920
it's been like the adventure over the years, having the

517
00:30:36.960 --> 00:30:40.440
experiences and learning what I do about nature and wildlife

518
00:30:40.480 --> 00:30:47.480
in general. But yeah, so that was my main encounters

519
00:30:47.480 --> 00:30:50.480
that took place right here in Virginia and in the

520
00:30:50.559 --> 00:30:53.039
George Washington National Forest.

521
00:30:53.359 --> 00:30:57.039
I know that particular area I've gotten a few reports from.

522
00:30:57.079 --> 00:30:59.759
Do you get a large amount of reports from that

523
00:30:59.839 --> 00:31:02.200
area as well?

524
00:31:02.599 --> 00:31:05.400
More so, well, yes, I've gotten a report from there.

525
00:31:06.240 --> 00:31:10.359
I've actually had Actually it's funny. When I started camping

526
00:31:10.400 --> 00:31:14.000
in the area, I had a coworker share something to me.

527
00:31:14.839 --> 00:31:17.759
It was interesting. Nobody at that workplace knew nothing about me.

528
00:31:18.119 --> 00:31:20.240
They didn knew what I was involved with. But I

529
00:31:20.240 --> 00:31:22.960
had a puddy of mine, the co worker at the time,

530
00:31:23.079 --> 00:31:27.759
he hunts out there all the time. Well, he actually

531
00:31:27.799 --> 00:31:29.640
shared a story when he was riding up the forest

532
00:31:29.720 --> 00:31:33.240
road and this is right above where our camps light

533
00:31:33.319 --> 00:31:37.920
took place in twenty fourteen. Well, he was riding up

534
00:31:37.960 --> 00:31:39.599
it was still daily, it was in the evening, but

535
00:31:39.640 --> 00:31:45.319
it was still daylight. And he said it was hopping

536
00:31:45.359 --> 00:31:48.359
between six and seven o'clock in the evening from out

537
00:31:48.359 --> 00:31:51.640
of nowhere, as he's riding up the forest road, saw

538
00:31:52.480 --> 00:31:56.960
a humanoid reddish brown figure comes running out and had

539
00:31:56.960 --> 00:31:58.799
a slight pause in the middle of the road as

540
00:31:58.799 --> 00:32:02.759
it briefly kind of looked at him and continue running

541
00:32:02.839 --> 00:32:06.240
and work this way across the river. And for the record,

542
00:32:06.279 --> 00:32:08.960
the river in this area is not really that wide,

543
00:32:09.200 --> 00:32:12.279
and it's not deep. It's probably about you know, in

544
00:32:12.359 --> 00:32:15.920
most spontses, probably voat up the two feet deep, and

545
00:32:16.400 --> 00:32:18.240
that depends on the time of the year. Sometimes lots

546
00:32:18.240 --> 00:32:20.799
of that parts of the river get dried out. So

547
00:32:21.400 --> 00:32:23.720
but yeah, and it's funny that when he shared the

548
00:32:23.720 --> 00:32:25.200
stories to it, he I was like, who told you

549
00:32:25.200 --> 00:32:28.319
about me? He's like, what are you talking about? It's like,

550
00:32:28.480 --> 00:32:30.240
why would have totally you know, I don't want to

551
00:32:30.240 --> 00:32:32.359
say he was a total stranger. But again, like I said,

552
00:32:32.400 --> 00:32:34.680
he did not know nothing about me and what I

553
00:32:34.720 --> 00:32:37.400
was involved with. It's like, why don't somebody just come

554
00:32:37.400 --> 00:32:39.319
out and tell you about they saw a bigfoot out

555
00:32:39.319 --> 00:32:42.240
in the you know, out in this particular area, you know.

556
00:32:43.279 --> 00:32:47.079
So I thought that was interesting. But uh so, yeah,

557
00:32:47.119 --> 00:32:50.119
I have gotten more reports from those areas before, but

558
00:32:50.920 --> 00:32:54.039
more so just north from me where I'm at, I

559
00:32:54.400 --> 00:32:57.799
hear a lot of reports from the Blue Ridge Parkway

560
00:32:57.839 --> 00:33:03.200
behind me. I've heard several reports over the years now

561
00:33:03.359 --> 00:33:05.200
then again back from now that I think about it,

562
00:33:05.480 --> 00:33:07.960
Like I said, there's actually other reports that we've gathered

563
00:33:08.240 --> 00:33:12.680
not long ago, actually just a few months ago. We've

564
00:33:12.759 --> 00:33:14.640
learned of things over by in the main area. I

565
00:33:14.680 --> 00:33:18.119
don't want to get in specifics because we do our

566
00:33:18.119 --> 00:33:20.839
group campouts in our current investigation, and I don't want

567
00:33:20.880 --> 00:33:22.559
to give off the location because we do keep it

568
00:33:22.599 --> 00:33:24.640
quiet and we don't want people to come over and

569
00:33:24.680 --> 00:33:29.920
disturb it, you know. But yeah, there's been sightings up

570
00:33:29.960 --> 00:33:33.359
that way. We've had some crazy things happening around there.

571
00:33:33.440 --> 00:33:37.480
I've seen large pictures of large humanoid foot tracks in

572
00:33:37.559 --> 00:33:40.440
the snow that people have shared with me from that location.

573
00:33:41.279 --> 00:33:45.960
So I don't want to say we're surrounded by big putts,

574
00:33:46.000 --> 00:33:49.279
but they're around, I will say that much. It seems

575
00:33:49.279 --> 00:33:53.160
like they there's a population of them around. I mean,

576
00:33:53.160 --> 00:33:56.119
I don't know if he's what's been cited or what

577
00:33:56.160 --> 00:34:01.559
we've experienced, are groups or ones that are or passes through.

578
00:34:04.319 --> 00:34:07.119
I mean that I can't put a finger on that part,

579
00:34:07.200 --> 00:34:09.320
you know, But so I don't know if there was

580
00:34:09.360 --> 00:34:12.039
actually a living population here or like I said, are

581
00:34:12.039 --> 00:34:14.280
they moving around or how they coming from other areas.

582
00:34:14.480 --> 00:34:18.239
But there's just been so much activity over the years

583
00:34:18.280 --> 00:34:24.159
and strangeness from uh. I mean, I gathered information from

584
00:34:24.199 --> 00:34:27.440
the girl at the bank. Her fiance shared a story

585
00:34:27.480 --> 00:34:31.480
with me, you know, you know that was actually in

586
00:34:31.559 --> 00:34:36.199
between my main camp spren't and where we are currently

587
00:34:36.239 --> 00:34:39.920
investigation now, So where he shared his information that was

588
00:34:40.159 --> 00:34:42.880
basically in the middle of it all, which was interesting.

589
00:34:43.679 --> 00:34:47.599
So but I guess based off of the information we've

590
00:34:47.679 --> 00:34:51.960
gathered from others along with what we documented and noted

591
00:34:53.239 --> 00:34:55.840
the George Washington National Forest in the area we're in

592
00:34:56.000 --> 00:34:58.559
seems to be pretty much from a hot spire, you know.

593
00:35:00.679 --> 00:35:05.320
I've been recently sharing some uh some information not far

594
00:35:05.360 --> 00:35:08.079
from our area but over in the West Virginia side,

595
00:35:08.840 --> 00:35:13.280
and basically and it's funny that with all this activity

596
00:35:13.280 --> 00:35:18.280
and all this information that we gather, it's like, it's

597
00:35:18.280 --> 00:35:20.719
funny because you know, you've heard of the Alaskans Triangle

598
00:35:20.760 --> 00:35:24.480
where a lot of strangeness and weird reports come from. Well,

599
00:35:25.039 --> 00:35:28.159
I like to put it, you know, it's funny because

600
00:35:28.159 --> 00:35:30.360
I started teaming my my team members and I said,

601
00:35:30.639 --> 00:35:34.239
we got the Virginia Triangle going on here in our area.

602
00:35:35.039 --> 00:35:38.199
There's if you know, look at the territory between we've

603
00:35:38.199 --> 00:35:42.599
been investigating and the reports that we learn about, and

604
00:35:42.679 --> 00:35:44.440
you know, it all kind of makes it makes a

605
00:35:44.440 --> 00:35:47.639
triangle formation, you know, and part of that triangle again

606
00:35:47.719 --> 00:35:51.119
runs into West Virginia, but a good portion of it

607
00:35:51.159 --> 00:35:56.800
is here in Virginia. So so yeah, it's definitely a

608
00:35:56.880 --> 00:36:02.719
healthy uh a healthy I still want to say population,

609
00:36:02.920 --> 00:36:04.119
but you know, I don't love if that's the right

610
00:36:04.119 --> 00:36:08.800
way to put it or really look at it. But

611
00:36:08.840 --> 00:36:11.440
you know, so Yeah, there is a good number of

612
00:36:11.440 --> 00:36:13.480
reports that come out of this part of the state,

613
00:36:13.960 --> 00:36:17.599
here in the Shanando Valley. So I'll just sum it

614
00:36:17.679 --> 00:36:19.960
up as that the Shanando Valley is a hot spot

615
00:36:20.039 --> 00:36:21.000
for big conciding.

616
00:36:21.480 --> 00:36:24.639
I would also agree from what I've heard from other

617
00:36:25.519 --> 00:36:30.039
some different sources over the last year, the witnesses and

618
00:36:30.239 --> 00:36:36.119
researchers and such. Have you noticed that there is a

619
00:36:37.800 --> 00:36:41.719
that there are common threads in what witnesses are reporting

620
00:36:41.800 --> 00:36:45.320
that the bigfoot look like in that area or is

621
00:36:45.360 --> 00:36:46.519
it kind of across the board.

622
00:36:48.719 --> 00:36:52.519
Well, h most of it, I would have to say

623
00:36:52.519 --> 00:36:54.599
across the board. As far as the color of the hair,

624
00:36:55.480 --> 00:36:58.079
most reports I've ever heard about, most of them are

625
00:36:58.159 --> 00:37:01.800
brown on the black. And then there's only been a

626
00:37:01.800 --> 00:37:05.480
couple that I've heard where they say reddish brown, But

627
00:37:05.599 --> 00:37:10.039
most of them are black now. And that's another thing.

628
00:37:10.679 --> 00:37:14.840
Back to talking about my encounter in twenty fourteen, that's

629
00:37:14.880 --> 00:37:17.840
another thing I think about too. You know, we all

630
00:37:17.880 --> 00:37:21.639
had hint lamps line, why didn't we see facial features

631
00:37:21.719 --> 00:37:26.360
and some other details? And I often think, you know,

632
00:37:26.480 --> 00:37:31.119
it was after midnight when this occurred, and you know

633
00:37:31.239 --> 00:37:33.719
they were just outside of our beam of light. Apparently,

634
00:37:35.039 --> 00:37:39.280
and did they have black hair or black fur. To me,

635
00:37:39.440 --> 00:37:41.480
that would make sense because they were definitely blending in

636
00:37:41.559 --> 00:37:44.880
with a night So that's another thing I think about,

637
00:37:45.039 --> 00:37:47.679
and I think that's why a lot of people don't

638
00:37:47.679 --> 00:37:50.599
can see much. Especially most of the sightings are in

639
00:37:50.639 --> 00:37:54.480
the evenings. There's there's been a lot of sightings during

640
00:37:54.480 --> 00:37:59.159
the daytime. So because like the guy used to work

641
00:37:59.159 --> 00:38:02.159
with he said what he described with British brown, So

642
00:38:02.280 --> 00:38:07.679
there you go. But yeah, like my buddy Tracy, he

643
00:38:07.719 --> 00:38:11.239
had daytime sighting down in his area now he lives

644
00:38:11.239 --> 00:38:14.519
about a couple hours self of me. Yeah, he had

645
00:38:14.519 --> 00:38:17.199
a sighting that put the scare in him the way

646
00:38:17.239 --> 00:38:19.719
he he wasn't even trying to look for big quick.

647
00:38:20.599 --> 00:38:22.119
He was in a he was out the woods on

648
00:38:22.119 --> 00:38:24.840
a hike looking for a waterfall because the job he

649
00:38:24.880 --> 00:38:27.519
had at the time, he was he did medical transport,

650
00:38:27.719 --> 00:38:32.280
uh transportation, and he had some free time and he

651
00:38:32.400 --> 00:38:34.519
was in the area, want to go check out some area,

652
00:38:35.320 --> 00:38:38.920
and uh yeah, that's when his daytime sighting occurred. But

653
00:38:39.039 --> 00:38:43.440
he daytime sighting at twenty feet away, you know, and

654
00:38:43.480 --> 00:38:45.199
being face to face and you're all the way up

655
00:38:45.239 --> 00:38:47.880
there in the woods, down by this creek that runs

656
00:38:47.960 --> 00:38:51.440
through a waterfall. Yeah. I think if I was by

657
00:38:51.519 --> 00:38:54.239
myself too, I probably would have been freaking out too,

658
00:38:54.280 --> 00:38:57.840
Because as soon as he saw had his sighting and

659
00:38:57.840 --> 00:39:01.039
and he took off. Yeah, he went Facebook live, he

660
00:39:01.119 --> 00:39:03.800
started doing a recording his video. You could hear it

661
00:39:03.800 --> 00:39:05.679
in his voice, to see it in his face. Poor

662
00:39:05.719 --> 00:39:10.760
guy freaked out, you know. But so yeah, I mean

663
00:39:11.119 --> 00:39:14.519
there's been through excitings all throughout Virginia. I mean I've

664
00:39:14.800 --> 00:39:17.039
I even heard stories on the eastern part of Virginia,

665
00:39:17.559 --> 00:39:19.320
you know, because when you think I don't know how

666
00:39:19.360 --> 00:39:21.280
well you know the rest of the state of Virginia.

667
00:39:21.400 --> 00:39:24.719
But like most of the East coast here, I mean Virginia,

668
00:39:24.840 --> 00:39:26.360
when you go to the eastern shores, I mean, it's

669
00:39:26.400 --> 00:39:29.880
all beach beach coves and you know everything else. You know,

670
00:39:30.800 --> 00:39:33.039
I'm sure it's the same way like on the West coast,

671
00:39:33.039 --> 00:39:39.039
but you know, but yeah, there's you hear about reports

672
00:39:39.039 --> 00:39:43.239
all over the state. But I get other people email

673
00:39:43.280 --> 00:39:48.039
and needy and sharing information to me, and you know,

674
00:39:48.119 --> 00:39:49.760
it's hard to keep up with a lot of it.

675
00:39:49.840 --> 00:39:52.599
I mean I do make notes of it. I want

676
00:39:52.599 --> 00:39:55.000
to be able to get out there to investigate these places,

677
00:39:55.360 --> 00:39:58.800
you know, especially when they're not that far. But sometimes

678
00:39:58.840 --> 00:40:01.920
it's hard finding the time, you know, finding in time

679
00:40:02.039 --> 00:40:04.599
is a big challenge. I haven't heard nothing out of

680
00:40:04.599 --> 00:40:09.039
the ordinary as far as details or on descriptions. But

681
00:40:09.119 --> 00:40:12.639
I will say this, as far as heights here on

682
00:40:12.679 --> 00:40:15.159
the East Coast, most of the reports I've learned from others,

683
00:40:15.159 --> 00:40:18.239
either from other people that have interviewed, you know, it

684
00:40:18.320 --> 00:40:22.119
seems like they tend to be around seven to eight

685
00:40:22.119 --> 00:40:26.039
feet on average. You know. Then of course out in

686
00:40:26.039 --> 00:40:28.440
the Pacific Northwest, you know, in an other area, you

687
00:40:28.440 --> 00:40:31.199
hear them about them getting around ten feet tall. Sure,

688
00:40:31.480 --> 00:40:36.199
you you know, so, I mean, maybe that's how big

689
00:40:36.239 --> 00:40:39.800
they are they you know. Then again, you sometimes some

690
00:40:39.840 --> 00:40:44.920
people like to question people's estimation, you know, like I mean,

691
00:40:45.039 --> 00:40:48.039
because you know, when people face a situation and your fear,

692
00:40:48.119 --> 00:40:52.119
you know, makes you wonder are they exaggerating out of fear,

693
00:40:52.400 --> 00:40:54.360
you know, because they are they actually really that big?

694
00:40:54.480 --> 00:40:56.760
I mean, you know, I don't know, maybe they are,

695
00:40:57.639 --> 00:40:59.719
because then I've heard stories and reports from a little

696
00:40:59.719 --> 00:41:02.679
of the life the people saying they're up to fourteen

697
00:41:02.760 --> 00:41:07.039
sixty feet, you know, But I don't know. I've never

698
00:41:07.039 --> 00:41:08.800
been to Alaska, so you know, I never had the

699
00:41:08.800 --> 00:41:11.519
opportunity to explore. My thing is, if I went to Alaska,

700
00:41:11.519 --> 00:41:13.000
I'd be afraid of running into one of the big

701
00:41:13.039 --> 00:41:14.199
Marsha grizzly.

702
00:41:13.960 --> 00:41:19.280
Bears, so exactly exactly, you know, Yeah, they've got some

703
00:41:19.360 --> 00:41:22.440
wide of stuff up there, for sure. Has there been

704
00:41:22.440 --> 00:41:27.239
a time when you've been out, you know, doing research,

705
00:41:27.599 --> 00:41:30.159
maybe with your team or not with your team, where

706
00:41:31.519 --> 00:41:35.519
things escalated a little bit and you're like, at this point,

707
00:41:35.559 --> 00:41:37.880
I'm not sure if we need to be here right now.

708
00:41:40.880 --> 00:41:44.760
Me personally can't say I've ever encountered going into a

709
00:41:44.800 --> 00:41:48.519
situation or exploring into anything to where we had to

710
00:41:48.559 --> 00:41:53.360
turn back. However, I've had a situation where I was

711
00:41:53.400 --> 00:41:57.159
introduced to this one area. It's not far from where

712
00:41:57.199 --> 00:41:59.079
our group camp outs are taking place right now, where

713
00:41:59.119 --> 00:42:04.039
we're actually doing something station. There was a place where

714
00:42:04.079 --> 00:42:09.800
an older gentleman took me c you know, and I

715
00:42:09.960 --> 00:42:12.400
learned about this area and this is close a little

716
00:42:12.480 --> 00:42:15.559
bit close to the West Virginia and you're really in

717
00:42:15.559 --> 00:42:19.360
the mountains in this particular spot. Uh. There was a

718
00:42:19.400 --> 00:42:22.400
time there when I went to camp by myself in

719
00:42:22.440 --> 00:42:28.320
those areas, and I mean I've actually I'll just cut

720
00:42:28.360 --> 00:42:30.400
to the chase. I basically felt like I got chased

721
00:42:30.400 --> 00:42:32.920
out of it, but without you know, being physically chased.

722
00:42:34.800 --> 00:42:37.840
Like I said, my buddy introduced me to this location.

723
00:42:38.719 --> 00:42:42.199
He told me, at nighttime, it gets very eerie in

724
00:42:42.280 --> 00:42:45.440
the area because above you that runs through the mountains,

725
00:42:45.440 --> 00:42:48.559
you got these power lions and when the cool air

726
00:42:48.599 --> 00:42:50.400
in the mountain a will settle down into the lower

727
00:42:50.400 --> 00:42:54.079
areas below where you said it in camp, he said,

728
00:42:54.159 --> 00:42:56.320
it gets very eerie because the fog sits in and

729
00:42:56.360 --> 00:42:59.840
you can hear the power lines not crack on pop.

730
00:43:00.119 --> 00:43:04.519
But he started named the area Whispering Hollow because some

731
00:43:04.559 --> 00:43:06.840
of those snap crackling pots from the power lines above

732
00:43:06.880 --> 00:43:09.280
you sound like whispering, you know, you know, it sound

733
00:43:09.360 --> 00:43:13.760
like a bunch of whispering voices. And yeah, so I

734
00:43:13.800 --> 00:43:16.480
actually got to experience what he was talking about, you know,

735
00:43:16.559 --> 00:43:19.639
so you know, it was interesting. And like I said,

736
00:43:19.679 --> 00:43:21.960
you know, I had I can't, I can't set up

737
00:43:22.280 --> 00:43:28.840
and I had lights set up and it was dead

738
00:43:28.920 --> 00:43:31.159
quiet out there, you know, and you can see it.

739
00:43:31.400 --> 00:43:34.079
It was. It was pretty foggy even with my lights

740
00:43:34.119 --> 00:43:38.880
around the cancer. But I know I'm not gonna say

741
00:43:38.880 --> 00:43:41.760
it was bidfuot. It could have been bears. It could

742
00:43:41.760 --> 00:43:46.719
have been a very bold, blunt bear that didn't care.

743
00:43:46.760 --> 00:43:49.840
Because most bears are skiddish. They won't bother you, you know,

744
00:43:49.920 --> 00:43:51.960
especially if you make a little bit of noise or whatever,

745
00:43:52.159 --> 00:43:53.679
or most of the time they smell you. They're not

746
00:43:53.719 --> 00:43:57.679
going to be wanting to be in the area. However,

747
00:43:58.159 --> 00:44:01.280
I'm sitting there late at night, and I had the

748
00:44:01.360 --> 00:44:04.159
lights on, and I had a sidearm next to me,

749
00:44:05.119 --> 00:44:09.440
and I'm sitting there and off to my left, I

750
00:44:09.519 --> 00:44:13.199
hear this from out of nowhere, this loud, hard tree

751
00:44:13.280 --> 00:44:19.199
crack like crack. I was like, whoa that They're scared

752
00:44:19.480 --> 00:44:21.119
the crap out of me, and I'm not gonna lie.

753
00:44:21.159 --> 00:44:23.920
It really did. And I was like, okay, so I'm

754
00:44:23.960 --> 00:44:28.000
thinking thinking that it could be just a bear, you know,

755
00:44:28.239 --> 00:44:30.679
maybe starting to climb up a tree or whatever they're doing.

756
00:44:31.559 --> 00:44:34.000
I grab a bucket or something else, and I started

757
00:44:34.039 --> 00:44:37.199
banging it, banging it, banging, and I even yelled at wood.

758
00:44:37.199 --> 00:44:42.840
It's like hey, So it's like okay, I put everything down.

759
00:44:43.079 --> 00:44:46.960
I relaxed a little bit, and I'm sitting there probably

760
00:44:47.000 --> 00:44:50.639
about ten minutes later. Ten minutes later, right after I

761
00:44:50.719 --> 00:44:54.920
heard all that and bang my buckets and stuff right

762
00:44:55.039 --> 00:45:00.280
behind my camp my tent. Ten minutes later, directly right

763
00:45:00.320 --> 00:45:05.800
behind my tent, I hear another track and it was

764
00:45:05.840 --> 00:45:06.639
a lot closer.

765
00:45:07.280 --> 00:45:10.079
Big for a society will be right back after these messages.

766
00:45:26.079 --> 00:45:28.360
That's why I said, it's like, right behind my tent.

767
00:45:29.519 --> 00:45:32.679
What do I do. I grab my spotlight and my

768
00:45:32.920 --> 00:45:38.360
sidearm and I shine, Shine, I'm shigning right behind my

769
00:45:38.440 --> 00:45:40.920
camp my tent to see if I can see anything,

770
00:45:41.679 --> 00:45:43.559
and all of a sudden, the spotlight keeps going out.

771
00:45:43.840 --> 00:45:46.679
I said, you gotta be shipping. You know, even when

772
00:45:46.679 --> 00:45:49.480
I did shign it, you're not seeing very far because

773
00:45:49.480 --> 00:45:51.559
that's how thick the fog was in the area. You

774
00:45:51.599 --> 00:45:54.760
couldn't seen maybe ten to fifteen feet out in front

775
00:45:54.760 --> 00:45:58.920
of you because whatever was just beyond that was whatever

776
00:45:59.039 --> 00:46:02.239
It knew what I was like, I don't. I don't

777
00:46:02.280 --> 00:46:06.239
even know how to explain it. I think whatever was

778
00:46:06.280 --> 00:46:09.400
there knew it was just on a site. It knew

779
00:46:09.519 --> 00:46:13.079
the fog and knew how the area works. And I

780
00:46:13.159 --> 00:46:15.320
was like, you know what with my spotlight not staying

781
00:46:15.360 --> 00:46:19.599
on apparently it wasn't charged properly. I just freaked out man,

782
00:46:19.800 --> 00:46:23.760
I said, all right, I'm done. I grabbed my most valuables,

783
00:46:23.760 --> 00:46:26.599
the food in my vehicle, left the tent set up there.

784
00:46:26.679 --> 00:46:29.559
I just grabbed all my most valuable food in there

785
00:46:29.679 --> 00:46:32.519
and guided my my blazer and headed back over on

786
00:46:32.519 --> 00:46:36.360
the other side of the mountain. And I was like, wow,

787
00:46:36.519 --> 00:46:38.440
I didn't know what to think. I really did not

788
00:46:38.679 --> 00:46:41.119
know what to think because I didn't see what was

789
00:46:41.119 --> 00:46:42.880
making those cracks. But I didn't want to find out

790
00:46:42.880 --> 00:46:45.519
because again, you know, I had a side on. I

791
00:46:45.559 --> 00:46:48.320
felt vulnerable. I really did, because I was by myself.

792
00:46:48.599 --> 00:46:50.719
I was kind of new to this area. You know,

793
00:46:51.440 --> 00:46:53.280
I know there's a lot of bears in the area.

794
00:46:53.920 --> 00:46:57.079
The thing is, if this was a bear, I don't know,

795
00:46:57.679 --> 00:47:00.960
but it was a I don't know. I didn't want

796
00:47:01.000 --> 00:47:03.800
no surprises, so but yeah, so I could say I

797
00:47:03.880 --> 00:47:05.360
kind of got chased out of the area in a

798
00:47:05.440 --> 00:47:08.760
roundabout way. So yeah, that's what happened to me.

799
00:47:09.320 --> 00:47:13.119
Have you heard anything come out citing wise or encounterwise

800
00:47:13.159 --> 00:47:17.719
from the Fort Barfoot area of Virginia?

801
00:47:19.760 --> 00:47:21.480
What location it's it's called.

802
00:47:21.519 --> 00:47:27.639
It's a military installation called Fort Barfoot. Oh, I think

803
00:47:27.639 --> 00:47:28.800
it's called something else.

804
00:47:28.880 --> 00:47:32.599
To let me look Okay, yeah, because that's not ringing

805
00:47:32.639 --> 00:47:41.599
a bell. Fort Pickett, Oh, Fort Picket, Okay, I'm familiar

806
00:47:41.599 --> 00:47:45.079
with around where about Fort Pickett is, But to be

807
00:47:45.119 --> 00:47:47.119
honest with you, I can't say I've heard any reports

808
00:47:47.159 --> 00:47:51.960
from there. Well, let me ask you something if you

809
00:47:51.960 --> 00:47:53.840
can look on them, like what part of Virginia is

810
00:47:53.840 --> 00:48:00.280
that in, because that is uh like Petersburg, Virginia.

811
00:47:59.719 --> 00:48:04.159
It would be uh yeah, it's it's a little west

812
00:48:04.159 --> 00:48:04.800
of Petersburg.

813
00:48:04.880 --> 00:48:08.719
Actually, yeah, okay, because it's funny, because that's where I

814
00:48:08.760 --> 00:48:12.519
found it was. Because I will share one thing with

815
00:48:12.559 --> 00:48:15.159
you that I'm not gonna say. It was bigfoot or

816
00:48:15.159 --> 00:48:20.079
some print just south of Richmond, Virginia, on inter State

817
00:48:20.159 --> 00:48:24.000
ninety five. It was closest to the Petersburg area as

818
00:48:24.039 --> 00:48:27.039
I was because I was headed to North Carolina and

819
00:48:27.440 --> 00:48:31.519
this was a few years ago, probably well, well like

820
00:48:31.599 --> 00:48:34.480
six seven years ago. Now, well I was headed down

821
00:48:34.599 --> 00:48:39.679
ninety five south bound and now in Virginia here, I'm

822
00:48:39.719 --> 00:48:43.079
sure every state has their own company that does Like

823
00:48:43.239 --> 00:48:46.360
in Virginia, we have what they called uh DBI trucks.

824
00:48:46.760 --> 00:48:49.719
They basically they you you'll see them on the side

825
00:48:49.719 --> 00:48:51.679
of the road picking up debris or whatever, and they're

826
00:48:51.679 --> 00:48:55.199
pick up prduction and they worked for they worked. They

827
00:48:55.199 --> 00:48:57.119
pretty much worked for the state, you know, and they

828
00:48:57.360 --> 00:49:01.639
they'll help patrol area or mark off area for construction

829
00:49:01.960 --> 00:49:05.880
or emergency vehicles or whatever. But anyway, as I was

830
00:49:05.880 --> 00:49:08.719
headed down, it was like, oh my gosh, there were

831
00:49:08.760 --> 00:49:12.360
several of them in a big cluster blocking one lane.

832
00:49:12.639 --> 00:49:14.400
Of course, one of them had their sign up with that,

833
00:49:14.519 --> 00:49:16.679
you know, the blinking arrow for everybody to get over.

834
00:49:17.559 --> 00:49:20.159
I said, oh man, I said, all I see was

835
00:49:20.199 --> 00:49:22.480
all these DBI drugs. Said, what the heck are they doing?

836
00:49:23.239 --> 00:49:25.119
You know, I didn't see no emergen you know, I

837
00:49:25.119 --> 00:49:27.039
just see no emergency lights and nothing. It's just there

838
00:49:27.239 --> 00:49:31.559
caution lights that they put on their trucks. And so

839
00:49:31.880 --> 00:49:34.840
everybody slows down. And we're going into the left lane

840
00:49:34.880 --> 00:49:39.199
because there's a two lane highway and and there's an exit.

841
00:49:39.239 --> 00:49:41.760
It's like there were blocking the exit for whatever reason.

842
00:49:42.880 --> 00:49:45.480
Now we're going so slow, and I was like, I'm

843
00:49:45.519 --> 00:49:47.760
curious what text going on here. So I'm going slow

844
00:49:47.840 --> 00:49:50.800
enough where I can look over. Now there wasn't one

845
00:49:50.840 --> 00:49:54.239
state trooper, but he was on the other side of

846
00:49:54.280 --> 00:49:58.440
the exit ramp park next to an SUV that looked

847
00:49:58.440 --> 00:50:01.840
like I had a lady driving. I didn't see no

848
00:50:01.880 --> 00:50:04.079
other vehicles. I don't know if they got an accident.

849
00:50:04.079 --> 00:50:07.679
Of what happened. Apparently that vehicle hit something in the road.

850
00:50:08.559 --> 00:50:13.239
It wasn't a vehicle, it was some kind of animal. Now,

851
00:50:14.039 --> 00:50:16.360
what was strange was right in front of where all

852
00:50:16.400 --> 00:50:18.440
the cluster of trucks were, right by the exit ramp.

853
00:50:18.519 --> 00:50:22.679
Is there was something in the road right at the

854
00:50:23.639 --> 00:50:27.440
beginning of the exit ramp. They had it covered up

855
00:50:27.480 --> 00:50:32.280
with a yellow blanket. Now, animals get hit on the

856
00:50:32.360 --> 00:50:36.159
roads and highways all the time. I've seen, you know, anywhere,

857
00:50:36.159 --> 00:50:42.000
from a small little rodent, mammals or a raccoon or awesome, dear,

858
00:50:42.239 --> 00:50:44.800
I've even seen bears hit that could hit my cars

859
00:50:44.920 --> 00:50:46.719
up and down up the road from us here, you know.

860
00:50:47.639 --> 00:50:50.880
And so I've seen almost every animal here in Virginia

861
00:50:50.960 --> 00:50:56.360
hit by a car. Now, whatever this was, the limbs

862
00:50:56.480 --> 00:51:00.159
were sticking out on one end and over off the side.

863
00:51:00.800 --> 00:51:03.800
All I remember seeing was what the heck is that

864
00:51:04.039 --> 00:51:07.719
it was brown and very hairy. It wasn't short hair.

865
00:51:07.760 --> 00:51:11.480
It looked like kind of shaggy hair. And I wish

866
00:51:11.559 --> 00:51:14.320
I was able to take pictures of it. But all

867
00:51:14.360 --> 00:51:16.599
I can do is describe into the best of my ability,

868
00:51:16.599 --> 00:51:18.960
because I actually end up going Facebook Live right after

869
00:51:19.000 --> 00:51:21.800
I saw this, Like, what the heck did I just see?

870
00:51:22.159 --> 00:51:24.920
What was that? Why would they cover something? Look, you know,

871
00:51:25.280 --> 00:51:27.800
they never cover up an animal that gets hit by

872
00:51:27.840 --> 00:51:31.119
a car. I mean, apparently it was a big scene,

873
00:51:31.199 --> 00:51:33.840
a big scenario that was I don't know they made.

874
00:51:34.559 --> 00:51:37.639
It just didn't add up to me. And I've spoken

875
00:51:37.719 --> 00:51:43.159
to other police officers, both in Virginia and out of state.

876
00:51:43.480 --> 00:51:46.360
I got friends that are police officers through Maryland and

877
00:51:47.039 --> 00:51:50.559
also here in Virginia, and every single one who told

878
00:51:50.559 --> 00:51:55.280
me they don't cover up animals. You know, we don't

879
00:51:55.320 --> 00:51:58.079
cover them up. When there's a report of an animal

880
00:51:58.119 --> 00:52:01.039
that that guy hit, they don't cover them up. You know,

881
00:52:02.239 --> 00:52:05.800
they were hiding something. What were they hiding? I don't know,

882
00:52:05.880 --> 00:52:08.280
but it was weird. I will tell you it was

883
00:52:08.320 --> 00:52:12.559
definitely weird. Now, I took note of the exit ramp

884
00:52:12.639 --> 00:52:16.000
number and I say, okay, I'm going to remember this area,

885
00:52:16.079 --> 00:52:18.519
this exit number when I come back up in a

886
00:52:18.519 --> 00:52:24.280
few days from North Carolina. And what was interesting. Now,

887
00:52:24.320 --> 00:52:26.000
there was no city in the area. It was all

888
00:52:26.000 --> 00:52:29.320
woods on both sides are road. Both the north and

889
00:52:29.400 --> 00:52:33.719
south side of the highway was all woods. But when

890
00:52:33.719 --> 00:52:36.760
I came back up, I wanted to examine the area again.

891
00:52:37.280 --> 00:52:39.360
You know, I'm not going to say I slowed down

892
00:52:39.360 --> 00:52:42.800
because there was a lot of traffic, but I noticed

893
00:52:42.800 --> 00:52:44.519
on the one side there was a sign there was

894
00:52:44.559 --> 00:52:47.480
a swamp over there. It said the name was such

895
00:52:47.519 --> 00:52:51.119
and such swamp. I said, oh, okay, so whatever maybe

896
00:52:51.239 --> 00:52:53.519
came out in the road that got hit might have

897
00:52:53.599 --> 00:52:55.599
been coming from that swamp. Where headed to the swamp,

898
00:52:55.679 --> 00:53:00.079
I don't know, But again, that was very close to

899
00:53:01.599 --> 00:53:04.440
the getting that was somewhat close to the Petersburg area,

900
00:53:04.639 --> 00:53:08.159
but it was well wooded in that area, so I

901
00:53:08.199 --> 00:53:09.840
don't know. Could it have been a big foot of

902
00:53:09.840 --> 00:53:12.559
some sort or something entirely different that I had no

903
00:53:12.639 --> 00:53:16.480
clue about. But seeing brown, shaggy hen coming off with

904
00:53:16.519 --> 00:53:19.639
the limbs of whatever this was what I recall seeing.

905
00:53:20.039 --> 00:53:21.760
I don't know, I can't tell you what it was,

906
00:53:21.800 --> 00:53:26.719
but it just didn't look normal to me. So again,

907
00:53:26.760 --> 00:53:32.079
that was probably about five, six or seven years ago. Okay, yeah,

908
00:53:32.599 --> 00:53:35.480
but yeah, so that's why I was asking. When you

909
00:53:35.480 --> 00:53:39.119
said Fort Pickett, I was like, hmm, wait a minute. Yeah,

910
00:53:39.280 --> 00:53:41.000
so I'm familiar with some of the army bases and

911
00:53:41.079 --> 00:53:44.400
military basis here in Virginia. That's why I was like

912
00:53:44.440 --> 00:53:46.079
when I when I when you said Fort Pickett, I

913
00:53:46.119 --> 00:53:48.159
think I'm thinking Petersburg. So that's why I asked you

914
00:53:48.320 --> 00:53:49.400
near Petersburg, you know.

915
00:53:49.960 --> 00:53:53.719
So absolutely, that's one of the weirdest stories I've heard

916
00:53:53.760 --> 00:53:56.519
on this podcast over the last five years. I'll be honest,

917
00:53:56.599 --> 00:53:59.440
that is very, very strange interesting.

918
00:53:59.760 --> 00:54:02.320
I was im I could to give you. Yeah, I

919
00:54:02.320 --> 00:54:04.320
wish I could have give you better details, but I

920
00:54:04.320 --> 00:54:07.159
mean that's basically all I saw. And like I said,

921
00:54:07.239 --> 00:54:10.920
I try to investigate it and will gather information by

922
00:54:10.960 --> 00:54:13.599
sharing it on you know, the video. And like I said,

923
00:54:13.639 --> 00:54:17.480
I had several police officers tell me, yeah, we don't

924
00:54:17.519 --> 00:54:19.639
cover up animals when they get it, you know, either

925
00:54:19.840 --> 00:54:22.440
move them off the side of the road or whatever.

926
00:54:22.599 --> 00:54:24.360
But so it was like left there like you were

927
00:54:24.400 --> 00:54:27.280
waiting for maybe waiting for somebody to come analyze it

928
00:54:27.360 --> 00:54:30.199
or take the body or whatever it was. I don't know,

929
00:54:31.159 --> 00:54:34.239
but that's something I saw. I'll never get it. That was,

930
00:54:34.760 --> 00:54:37.719
like I said, that was south of Richmond, right before Petersburg.

931
00:54:38.000 --> 00:54:44.519
So yeah, so yeah.

932
00:54:43.360 --> 00:54:48.280
Daniel, It has been a really interesting conversation. H thank

933
00:54:48.280 --> 00:54:51.159
you for sharing what you've experienced over the years down

934
00:54:51.199 --> 00:54:55.280
there in Virginia. I want to make sure you know

935
00:54:55.400 --> 00:54:59.559
as we start to wrap up our time together here today,

936
00:55:00.239 --> 00:55:02.920
is there any way people can keep up to date

937
00:55:03.000 --> 00:55:06.239
with what you're doing, Maybe share about your It sounds

938
00:55:06.280 --> 00:55:09.000
like you've got a podcast as well. How can people

939
00:55:09.199 --> 00:55:11.199
keep up to date with what you've got going on?

940
00:55:12.519 --> 00:55:15.679
Uh? Yeah, there's a few different things. Well, I'm all

941
00:55:15.679 --> 00:55:18.519
over social media. You can find me right on Facebook.

942
00:55:19.280 --> 00:55:21.119
I do try to post a few updates and keep

943
00:55:21.159 --> 00:55:24.840
things on Instagram as well, but most of my postings

944
00:55:24.880 --> 00:55:29.280
are on Facebook. Now. I have a I have a

945
00:55:29.320 --> 00:55:32.800
personal website, and I have an Avenge website. I host

946
00:55:32.840 --> 00:55:35.719
an event every June which are annual E C. B

947
00:55:35.880 --> 00:55:39.320
r O Virginia Bigfoot Conference and Family Festivals, happening June

948
00:55:39.360 --> 00:55:42.559
twentieth and twenty first. Uh. There's a Facebook event page

949
00:55:42.559 --> 00:55:45.960
for that, or you can go to the website via

950
00:55:46.000 --> 00:55:50.039
bigfootcon dot com. Uh. But my personal website, if you

951
00:55:50.280 --> 00:55:52.000
want to learn and get some more details about me,

952
00:55:52.159 --> 00:55:53.800
you know, you can find that E C. B r

953
00:55:53.840 --> 00:55:57.239
O Founder dot com. All one word e c b

954
00:55:57.440 --> 00:56:04.400
r O, Founder dot com. Yeah, one thing. I speak

955
00:56:04.440 --> 00:56:06.840
at a lot of events, and I actually did a

956
00:56:06.840 --> 00:56:10.280
Facebook live video last night where one of the announcements

957
00:56:10.320 --> 00:56:13.119
I made the put out there was I'm going to

958
00:56:13.159 --> 00:56:17.559
focus more on my research and conducting more research and

959
00:56:17.599 --> 00:56:21.840
doing field videos. So as of twenty twenty six, I

960
00:56:21.840 --> 00:56:24.840
don't plan on doing many events next year, to really

961
00:56:24.880 --> 00:56:28.519
none at all unless they're local. I'm gonna keep it

962
00:56:28.559 --> 00:56:30.000
simple because I want to be able to have more

963
00:56:30.079 --> 00:56:33.920
time to spend out camping with my grandson, with my

964
00:56:34.159 --> 00:56:37.079
team members and do the investigations because I've been slacking

965
00:56:37.159 --> 00:56:40.920
on a lot of that over the years. So yeah,

966
00:56:41.159 --> 00:56:44.800
I mean my YouTube video, my YouTube channel. I really

967
00:56:44.880 --> 00:56:47.039
encourage people to check that out and feel free to

968
00:56:47.079 --> 00:56:50.039
subscribe a lot of my researchers on there. We have

969
00:56:50.119 --> 00:56:53.000
fielding projects in the work, so you'll see a new

970
00:56:54.679 --> 00:56:58.840
new documentary series that will be on the YouTube channel

971
00:56:58.920 --> 00:57:02.920
Bigfoot Zone e c b r oh. That's my YouTube channel,

972
00:57:03.679 --> 00:57:07.199
big Foot Zone e c b r O. So feel

973
00:57:07.239 --> 00:57:11.199
free to check that out and subside if you have

974
00:57:11.239 --> 00:57:13.039
any questions, if you want to share a report, if

975
00:57:13.280 --> 00:57:15.960
if you're from Virginia or in the surrounding areas. I

976
00:57:16.000 --> 00:57:18.960
would love to hear your report. You can send me

977
00:57:19.000 --> 00:57:21.440
an email at e cb R O ninety eight at

978
00:57:21.480 --> 00:57:25.280
gmail dot com. So, but yeah, there's a lot going

979
00:57:25.280 --> 00:57:27.199
on for this year that I get to get through.

980
00:57:27.760 --> 00:57:31.960
I'll be I'll be in Pennsylvania first week of June

981
00:57:32.360 --> 00:57:35.880
for the Marionville, Pennsylvania event and for the Forest Counting

982
00:57:35.960 --> 00:57:39.320
Big Fro Festival. I'll speaking June eighth. Then I'm my

983
00:57:39.440 --> 00:57:43.000
event in Virginia June twentieth and twenty first, and then

984
00:57:43.039 --> 00:57:46.719
I'll be speaking in West Virginia at the West Virginia

985
00:57:46.719 --> 00:57:50.519
Big for Festival that that event has taking place June

986
00:57:50.559 --> 00:57:53.559
twenty sixth through the twenty eighth, so I'll be there,

987
00:57:54.480 --> 00:57:57.079
and then there's other events throughout the year too. There's

988
00:57:57.119 --> 00:58:01.840
a few more events I'll be doing. But yeah, I'm

989
00:58:01.840 --> 00:58:04.039
not hard to find. You can look me up Daniel

990
00:58:04.119 --> 00:58:07.960
J bin Wo on Facebook, look up the ECB RO

991
00:58:08.679 --> 00:58:13.039
and you'll find me one way or another. So and hey,

992
00:58:13.079 --> 00:58:14.880
thank you for having me on. This has been great.

993
00:58:14.960 --> 00:58:16.000
I really appreciate it.

994
00:58:16.960 --> 00:58:19.719
Fantastic. So a lot of different ways to keep up

995
00:58:19.840 --> 00:58:24.079
with Daniel. If you're going to be near a conference

996
00:58:24.079 --> 00:58:26.360
where you're speaking aut, make sure you hit it up

997
00:58:26.480 --> 00:58:29.119
because it sounds like it might be one of the

998
00:58:29.199 --> 00:58:31.519
last years he's going to be really into that, at

999
00:58:31.599 --> 00:58:34.360
least for now. But Daniel bin wa, thank you so

1000
00:58:34.480 --> 00:58:37.920
much for hanging out and for chatting about your encounters.

1001
00:58:38.079 --> 00:58:41.199
And we'll have to We'll have to check in at

1002
00:58:41.519 --> 00:58:44.119
a later date see how things are going. But thanks

1003
00:58:44.119 --> 00:58:45.159
so much for hanging out.

1004
00:58:45.239 --> 00:58:50.119
Dude. Oh absolutely, I appreciate it, and yeah, I'll definitely

1005
00:58:50.119 --> 00:58:50.840
talk to you guys here.

1006
00:58:52.119 --> 00:58:53.760
I just wanted to take a minute to say thank

1007
00:58:53.800 --> 00:58:55.840
you truly for listening to this episode of the Big

1008
00:58:55.880 --> 00:58:59.159
for Society podcast. Daniel's story is one that sticks with you,

1009
00:58:59.199 --> 00:59:01.599
not just for the glowing eyes or that eurie fog,

1010
00:59:01.679 --> 00:59:04.360
but for what it says about being open minded, curious,

1011
00:59:04.400 --> 00:59:06.719
and grounded in truth, even when you're standing face to

1012
00:59:06.719 --> 00:59:09.480
face with the unexplained. So huge thanks to Daniel Benoit

1013
00:59:09.639 --> 00:59:12.039
for sharing his time, his encounters, and his deep knowledge

1014
00:59:12.039 --> 00:59:15.159
of the Virginia Wilderness. If you've enjoyed this conversation, please

1015
00:59:15.159 --> 00:59:17.519
subscribe to us on YouTube tap the bell so you

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1017
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1018
00:59:22.880 --> 00:59:26.320
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1019
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1020
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It helps more curious minds find us now. If you

1021
00:59:31.400 --> 00:59:33.559
or someone you know has had a bigfoot encounter, especially

1022
00:59:33.559 --> 00:59:36.679
in Virginia or near the Shannondoah area, I'd love to

1023
00:59:36.679 --> 00:59:39.119
hear from you, so send an email over to Bigfoot

1024
00:59:39.159 --> 00:59:42.159
Society at gmail dot com. Thanks again for being part

1025
00:59:42.199 --> 00:59:44.599
of the Bigfoot Society. Until next time, keep your head

1026
00:59:44.639 --> 00:59:47.360
on a swivel, question everything, and trust the feeling that

1027
00:59:47.400 --> 00:59:50.079
you're not alone out there. See you in the woods.