West Virginia Bigfoot Investigator Reveals Shocking Encounters | Greg Lambert

0:00 You're listening to Bigfoot Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring you first hand encounters from people who say they've seen something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere, and each one leaves us with more questions than answers. These are the. Voices of the people who've lived it. To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that just might change the way you see the woods forever. So stay with us, all right, bigf the Society. You've got the privilege of talking to mister Greg Lambert today. Greg is an. Individual that has had some really interesting Bigfoot experiences over the years, and he is on the show to talk about those today. He's from the great state of West Virginia and he's also been a BFRO investigator for about eleven years now. So welcome to the show.

0:51 Greg. How are you doing today. Sir, I'm doing well. Thanks for having me. Absolutely whenever I have an individual like yourself where you have more than a few years of expertise about the subject, I always like to start with what was it that first got you into the Bigfoot subjects? To begin with, when I was around thirteen years old, my father and I had gone to scout our deer stand locations. Excuse me, we rented a property at the time, we were actually living there, and there was about one hundred acres and it was also a Christmas tree farm, and we went up above the Christmas tree area. There were roads all over the mountains, so we had roads we could walk, and hadn't gotten daylight yet. We went up and I hadn't dressed warm enough, so I got cold and I told my dad. I said, I'm going back to the house. I'm freezing. So I started back down the road and we were probably probably half a mile up the mountain. And as I walked, I would stop and listen, and off to my left on the ridge, I heard footsteps and the leaves. Of course, it was November and all the leaves were down. I couldn't really see anything, but I didn't make too much of it.

2:20 It stopped when I stopped, so I continued walking and stopped again and heard footsteps just a few, but then when I stopped, it would stop. And this continued on until I got really scared and ran for the house, and then I could hear it coming through the brush as I was running, just breaking branches and the normal sounds that some would make. That was big, running through the woods and the leaves, and got to the house that never saw anything. My dad came down later and never had any incident at all, never saw anything. When we lived at this property, we had some strange goings on and we just attributed it to maybe the place was haunted or we didn't know. Strange sounds, strange things happened from time to time. We had a root cellar that was full of potato bends that the door had swollen on it and you had to really jerk hard on the door to get it open. And I had been in there previously, and that the evening before got the next morning the door was open, and I knew I had shut it and latched it and couldn't tell if there were potatoes missing. Of course, there were hundreds of potatoes in there, but just strange things like that got me thinking. And then later on, as when the Internet came out and people were talking about this stuff,

3:51 I was reading accounts other people had where they had been paralleled out of the woods in the same fashion I had. And I've talked to other witnesses as well who have had that experience, and I'm like, co, okay, so I had a bigfoot experience. That's what really got me interested. And was it a thing where after you had this experience, then you were really interested in it the rest of your life or did you take a little time off and then maybe get back into it in later years. I continually was interested in the subject. At first, I thought these things are just in the Northwest, And after the Patterson Gimmlin film came out and I never even dreamed that Bigfoot was all over the country, much less in West Virginia. And then the Legend of Balgi Creek came out in seventy two and saw that at the drive in and I'm like, when that hand came through the window, that just really freaked me out. But I thought, that is not in the Northwest, so what's up with that?

5:07 Then do a little more research on the subject, and everything I could find, every article I could find, and books would read then in search of was really cool something you know that Leonard Bimoy had done like that that got me even more interested in the subject, and then lo and behold. In twenty twelve, I had found the BFRO website and discovered they were having an expedition in West Virginia. Went to the expedition. We had a class A sighting by not just one, but probably five or six individuals on a thermal camera, and that just really lit the fire. After that.

5:57 Gotcha, I could definitely see how that would How close was what they had seen through the thermal to. Them, They were thinking it was probably thirty yards away or so, And then when they went back in the daytime and did a recreation, this thing had belly crawled up on them and was more like fifteen ten or fifteen yards away, much closer than they had thought before. Their thermal camera did not record. Our group was on up the mountain from them, but on the same trail, and they called us on the radio and said, can you all get back down here? We think we have something.

6:46 We scatthered up our things we had just settled down, started back down the mountain and there was a wood knock and Russ Jones was actually leading my group, and he said, did you hear that? It'll be gone when they get there? They know we're coming, and sure enough, it was like a minute or so later they called us on the radio and said, never mind, it's gone. We continued on down and talk to them though to see what they had experienced, and of course everybody was pretty excited. So yeah, wow, I can only imagine that after that then things probably really amped up for you. Were you at the point then where you're starting to go out on expeditions that are maybe outside the BFO, maybe private things, or maybe going out by yourself.

7:36 Yeah, I've been out. It's spooky to go out and by yourself. I've been out with other individuals. Monongahila for one. I don't know if you know who he is, but he does a lot of our sound analysis, right, I've been out with him, but his top secret location that was also in West Virginia. But we have a group called East Coast Expeditions and that's run by Charles Kimbro and we we're all BFRO investigators. But there it's just a private group and we can just invite anybody, friends or family along whoever. That's like a non paid type thing. We do that on the side because a lot of times they're not just enough expeditions going around that you can get to or they're quite a distance away.

8:28 Okay, so that's really interesting. Have you had any significant things happen on any of the East Coast as East Coast expeditions? You've been on. General things, calls, we've gotten answered, wood knocks, stuff like that. I think the I don't remember if it's there. They kind of all run together after time. I don't remember. It was the East Coast or BFRO expedition. I had a rock thrown at us. We were the two groups. One was on an opposite trail, but these two trails converged into one trail, and myself and two other individuals got to this intersection where we're to meet, and we sat down, turned our lights off, and then I sat there and thurmed around a little bit and we played with the bard al back and forth, called it in.

9:24 One of the gentlemen had a harmonica, so I told him to police harmonica out and play a little to see if we could attract some attention. And after he stopped, we got a rock thrown in from behind us up on the ridge and hit the tree in front of us, just cracked like a shot, and that really got our attention. I turned up the heel but couldn't see anything. But that was the first really eerie, startling interaction that I've had. Have you ever been fortunate enough to have a class A visual sighting yourself during any of these.

10:07 I have not to this point. I'm hoping. I'm really hoping. Now I've seen eyeshine or eyeglow. That's really strange. I can't explain it. You know what mammals would have the ability of bioluminescence. I have seen that something that I could not explain, But as far as a class A, no, haven't gotten that fortunate to this point. But I'm still. Hopeful, absolutely, and I'm right there with you. So eyeglow, though, is such an interesting thing because it is a thing where I feel like it's maybe I'm just starting to hear more of it on my show over the last year.

10:52 But did you notice a certain color to the eyeglow that you were able to see? It's actually varied from like an oranges color to like a blue white light. I was in Kentucky on an expedition and Charles Kimbro and I were together leaving camp. Everyone else was out of camp except for the two people who were actually staying in camp, and as we hiked out, we saw down near campsite it looked like somebody standing looking down at a table with a headlamp on.

11:33 The light was actually shining down like they were looking at something on their table or looking for something in their campsite. So we called back on the radio to see if anyone was still there, and they said no, everyone was gone, so we're like, what are we seeing. We theirmed it couldn't see anything because it was kind of like behind brush, didn't really get a hot spot and peach signature, but we definitely saw the light, so yeah, that's it's kind of weird. I've had it happen directly behind me when I was looking the other direction and the person said, now turn around, there's eye shine on the hill right behind you. And it slowly turned and they said, oh, it's gone before I got turned around to see it. So that's happened a couple of times.

12:26 I haven't been in Kentucky. I was with Nate Moyer and I thought he was going to pass out on me, and I said, what's wrong? I thought, the Lord, there's a squatch ten feet behind us or something. And he said, I shine, I shine, But as soon as I turned around it it was gone again. But yeah, it's varied as far as the light color goes. Absolutely, when you had seen that eye glow, John Kentucky, were you able to tell roughly how high off the ground level it was? No, couldn't really tell. It was definitely not down on the ground. It would have definitely been if it was not a squatch, but it would have been something up in a tree, but too far apart for like an owl something like that. So it definitely wasn't deer eyeshine or just unexplained. So you have to go with what's the probability? What are we out here looking for? Oh?

13:29 Absolutely, and you're more than likely going into spots where there have been multiple things experienced and so. Their previod spots. And that actually was a follow up question I was going to ask you, was how how far apart would could you approximate that those different eye glow spheres were or the different the two eyes that you had seen. Sometimes with a distance, it's hard to judge, but probably around ten inches apart. Wow, that's definitely more than a normal humans would be for sure. Exactly when you are when you've been out in these expeditions, have you ever experienced any vocalizations or sounds that would be hard to explain?

14:27 Yeah, definitely. We were on an expedition in Kentucky and Monongahela and Charles Kimbro and I had hiked down to a lake steep trail. There were some people there who were camping. I think they were I believe there were two tenths maybe there. These people were out, they were sound asleep, nobody else was around, and they had me do a whoop and a knock and on the other side of the lake we got a response. We did another whoop, and it was coming closer around the lake, So I said, what do we do if it comes over here. We didn't really think this through, but then it got to a point. I don't know if we could see us, if it winded us, whatever, but it stopped and there was no more interaction after that. But to get a call, to get a response to I've call you done is great, and then it actually starts coming towards you is really exciting.

15:40 Oh yeah, that has to be just a thing that that really gets you amped up. Has there ever been a time when you've experienced what could be considered infrasound in the field. I have never experienced that. Now we've had people on the next edition that experience that while the expedition was going on. I believe that happened to Ron Bowles once on an expedition we were on. Trying to think that was Kentucky. Possibly, I think it was Kentucky. Like I say, they'll run together at at some point. But yeah, I've never experienced that. Now I have experienced the feeling of being watched. And this was in broad daylight. This is where we lived where I had something follow me out of the woods. I had a little Honda XL one hundred.

16:33 When I was like fourteen, I sold grit newspapers mode grass bought this motorcycle. And like I said, there were roads all over this mountain. So I had ridden way out along the ridge that I'd never been to before and just stopped. It was a bright sunny afternoon and put to kickstand down, sit there and listen and enjoyed the scenery, and just all of a sudden got that fight or flight feeling the hair on my next stood up and the woods had just gone dead quiet, and I just freaked and thought, I got to get out of here right now, and I started that bike up as fast as I could and just bolted. I've never had that feeling since then, even on an expedition, and it was strange. It was the middle of the day, perfectly clear, calm, and just freaked out.

17:35 That is really strange, just to double check, so it sounds like that is the one time that you could consider that you may have felt that you're in a situation where I'd rather not be here, and I would if I could get out of here right now. I would definitely get out of here right now. Yeah, yeah, yeah, don't never experienced the infrasound, but definitely got that feeling of being watched and that the fight or flight got to go. Besides, so let's see, the eye glow is definitely one of those weird things. Have there ever been any other things you've experienced while on an expedition that were hard for you to explain, but that might not be necessarily related to bigfoot.

18:27 Lights orbs. People see those from time to time. I spoke to a man that used to be a federal game organ and ask him if he'd ever seen anything in the woods that he couldn't explain. I was searching for maybe a possible bigfoot sighting and he said, other than lights, he'd never experienced that. I think in Kentucky on the one expedition we were on, there were people seeing lights, and yet that's just straining. That's kind of hard to explain. Absolutely, Is that something where you do that often? Try to talk to individuals that are maybe involved with forestry or wildlife or law enforcement to see if they have any things to report.

19:23 Yeah, from time to time, a lot of times they're reluctant to say anything for fear of their jobs. I know Manonga heel Of, he uses that name to protect himself on the line of work that he does. I think he's starting to come out a little bit more and more, and possibly he is going to do a book here in the future. And he actually did a chapter in Charles Kimber's book, Squatching one on one. But yeah, most of the time people are just reluctant to say much. Yeah, I definitely agree with that. It's I have not had much luck myself with those conversations. But have you found that there's a way to try to start those conversations with individuals in those fields. That works better than maybe other ways.

20:15 Usually I'll just start out with have you ever seen anything strange that you can't really explain? Something like that. I know I had an individual that I don't know and highly respect. I actually go to church with who saw a squatch last spring as he was going to pick up his son from ball practice, and ask him if he would like to do report, and he said, I don't really want my name associated with this forever, and I'm gonna a year it's totally anonymous. We won't reveal your name. People are just reluctant to He told me about the whole situation, but people were just reluctant to file report. Many times I'll have people tell me things I will file report, But generally I'll try to start out law saying have you ever seen anything that you couldn't really explain or something that wasn't supposed to be there?

21:19 I think that sounds like a good way to try to handle it. Sometimes if you jump right into the hey you've seen bigfoot people catches them off guard. Let's just say in a way that you're yours would be a little bit easier to get into it. Do you have a certain leaning towards what you think Bigfoot is at this point. I think they're flesh and blood, probably a descendant of jog Antipithecus Blackie. That's my belief. I know a lot of people think they're interdimensional creatures. The Native Americans excuse me, thought they had some kind of spiritual power a lot of times, but that just could be because they didn't really understand. But if they're leaving tracks, they're making sounds you find scat, if they're doing wood knocks, tree twists, breaking branches, I think they're a flesh and blood creature.

22:20 Obviously we've got the Patterson Gimman film and that's still some of the best evidence out there. They're a physical creature, and I think they're a Grade eight of some sort. Gotcha. The way I look at it is very similar in that it's some kind of physical creature. Because as you said, yeah, I can leave tracks and all that good stuff. I think there's probably some weird stuff that sciences has to catch up with in that that kind of could explain away the reports you get where it's seen doing weird stuff.

23:00 But I would say I'm pretty close to what you're seeing as well. Do you have any reports that you've taken over the years that really stand out for interesting encounters in your area of West Virginia. There was one gentleman who saw one when he was fishing, and it was crossing the creek and it was using a lat It was using a large walking stick. That was unusual that you would see this thing crossing a creek with a walking stick, like it needed the stick to get across the creek, or was it carrying the stick to use for tree knocks. That just unusual. There was one incident of preacher who told us about two squatches in his garden digging potatoes, and one of them was blonde, And he said, I didn't really want to tell anyone because people you tell people you've seen a bigfoot and they think you're crazy. But to tell someone I saw too and one of them was blonde, he said, I just didn't want to go there. But that one really stood out too, as far as I hadn't heard that much about the color variations. The wide range of color variations, and the fact that they were stealing food

24:31 out of a. Garden, that is some really really unique stuff. I've taken a few reports from West Virginia over the years, and you just you get some really specific details that you don't really get from other parts of the country. And for example, what you just said where he was using a walking stick, that's pretty cool. It reminds me of a report that I took from the Whites Run Road area over by Seneca Rock, and the truck driver reported that it had so it also had glowing eyes like you were saying, so eye glow yellow glowing eyes, but also had a vine across its chest too, which is very strange stuff. Also, have you gotten any reports from your area of people that have all of a sudden become paralyzed or can't move when they're in the same area of Bigfoot.

25:34 No, I haven't really heard that from anyone. I'm sure that that would breathe you and peralize you in fear if you're not expecting to see something like that, especially with the size of the creature. The individual I was telling you about that saw one as he was on his way to pick up his son from ball practice. Told me he said it disappeared. I said, you mean it stepped into the woods, it went down over the bank. He said, no, it just disappeared. I said, okay, I'm not one to believe in portals and things like that, so I thought, what could this possibly mean. I was chatting with Russ Jones about it, and his theory was, and I agreed with him. Your mind is seeing something that's not supposed to be there and it just blocks it out. You're seeing something that say, Okay, this doesn't exist.

26:40 Is this what I'm really seeing? And you it's almost like a lost time thing. Your mind just goes blank and said, Okay, this is not real. That's like the same thing about people frozen in fear. Your mind does funny things under stress situations. It's it is very strange how the mind works. And sometimes we forget things because if we remember. I think if we remember them, we probably would have a hard time dealing with reality. And I think sometimes, like you said, this plays into the whole subject. But I also have gotten a weird report. Do you know where Pocahontas County is?

27:25 Oh? Yeah, yeah. There was a guy I talked to where a black He saw a black fog like form crossing the road, which then turned into a sasquatch. And I've gotten that. I've gotten the opposite of that out in the mount Hood area of Oregon near a zig Zag where it was it actually turned into a black fog and then went across the creek as a fog cloud would do. But that very strange stuff. That's a thing where you know, I listen to people's stories and make sure they're documented, but we're not at the point yet where we have a specimen, and so we're not able to really fully study what they can actually do. And I think maybe if we ever get to that point, then we will be able to see, Okay, what is what is something that can be replicated if there are some that we can study, like Jane Goodall was studying in her lifetime, not Bigfoot, but also like chimpanzees. But in this area that you're based out of in West Virginia, are you also encountering other things or other accounts from people that are like, I haven't seen a Bigfoot, but I have encountered this other weird thing, which I have no idea what it was.

28:55 I don't get that so much. I know lesser Dale has on some wow reports of things. I think one of them was up in Canaane Valley. But yeah, I don't really get that much from people. I pretty much stay with the bigfoot stuff other than people saying maybe a ghost or something like that. But no, as far as that, no other cryptige really gotcha. Do you have any advice for individuals that you know are interested in the bigfoot subject and they're wanting to go out and try to see if they can find things themselves or start to do research. Do you have any advice regarding that.

29:40 I do gifting for We have a gap year program here where students come and spend a year and they study the Bible and they earn college credits. It's a beautiful location, but most of these students will come to our church and our usually find one or two individuals in the group who are interested in bigfoot, and I'll when they graduate this program, I'll buy them a copy of Charles Kimbro's book Squatching one oh one, and they say, here you go. If you're interested in starting some bigfoot research, start out with reading Charles's book and that'll help point in the right direction.

30:27 I think that's good advice, definitely too. Maybe not start from scratch yourself, but to figure out what are some good people out there like Squatching one on one where you mentioned where you can you don't have to start from the absolute beginning. You can get a foundation and maybe you can also look at it in a critical eye. You don't have to take everything from it, but you can learn a whole ton from it. Now, these students are they from other countries or from over all over the US. Or they're from around the US? Yeah, okay, cool, cool, And I'll get a few stories out of people there once in a while as well.

31:07 Oh that's cool. So once they find out you're probably the bigfoot guy in the church. I would imagine, yeah, that's me. Yeah, I get that. People find out pretty quick. And so have you heard any interesting things from other states? Then? As part of you meeting these students from around the US. Yeah, a few things. One of them actually worked with a tribe and would tell they would tell stories of Native Americans. They would tell stories to these kids. But actually I was at a doctor's appointment. This is a funny story, and my doctor is originally from Ohio, and I was talking. Sometimes I'll bring up bigfoot in the conversation or they say what do you do for hobby?

31:58 And he said, let me tell you a story. I said, Okay, here we go. His father had actually seen a bigfoot while he was deer hunting and didn't want to say anything really when he got back to camp, but every by school thing, I'm crazy. And so he finally confided in another individual who was running near him as well, and he said, I saw it too. So that was funny that he had a bigfoot story. That is pretty cool. And sometimes you just have to put it out there and you will be surprised at what you do find.

32:39 And I know some people they do that even just by having like a sticker on the back of your car, and that can that can leave some really interesting conversations in itself. Yeah, going off of you're into this for about eleven years, so you've probably heard a lot and you've seen a lot. What do you feel that the best evidence for bigfoot existing in West Virginia is? Oh, gosh, I would say probably the many eyewitness reports. I know. I was out around the blackwater Falls area one time and I had on probably had on one of my big foot hats of one of many, and we were in a piece of joint and I had a gentleman walk up to me and say, hey, I believe it exists. He said, we saw tracks going up over the bank when we were kayaking, and I said, oh, you should file report, and he's like, nah, he said, but if you're looking for him, he said, you should go out to the dump. He said, people see him there all the time. So I said, yeah, I think just eyewitness reports, you can't say that these people are not seeing this creature all around the state.

34:01 I agree with you one hundred percent, which is why I have spent years doing this show. I think it's very important that stuff that is seen is documented. Like yourself, it's also important to try to get documentation through different places like the BFRO, so there can be actual investigators that go that go out and look. Have there been any interesting investigations that you've been a part of over the last few years with the BFRO that come to mind? There was. There have been some that haven't been reported that I've tried to get reported, such as the individual I was telling about. I had a state trooper told me a story from up on Dalis Sades. He and several other troopers were camping up there and they could feel and hear something stomping around there camp and he said they all had their guns out and their flashlights out, looking and calling out whatever was out there, and never would come in where they could see it. But they were pretty shook up about the whole situation. But and again didn't want to file a report. It's hard at times.

35:19 I don't know why people if they just don't want to. They're still afraid they're going to be ridiculed or somebody's going to find out and might cost them their job if somebody thinks they're mentally unstable. But it's just it's hard to get people to file reports. And I've talked to many individuals who've had incidents and they just don't want to file a report. Why do you think it's important for individuals to get past that fear and to be able to file what happened something like the BFROO or even report it to podcasts like the one we're on now.

36:06 We want to prove these things exist so we can I don't know if they really need our protection. They're doing pretty well on their own, but so we can get them protected. But it develops patterns. If people are seeing and experiencing the same things all across the country over and over again, that helps document that. Plus the more we document these experiences, the more we can learn about these things and how they live, how they survive as humans. We're curious as well. They're curious too, but we want to know more and more about these things, and as people file reports, that helps us to learn more about them. And I think a lot of I think the government really has bodies. I've heard too many stories about them being killed on military bases and whatnot, and all of a sudden somebody shows up and the bodies are disappear or whatever. But I think the land usage is more probably the main reason that the government won't say they exist because of what it would do to land usage. With Darby or cuts DNA study that's going on, maybe that will shed more light into it.

37:30 We'll get some answers. But then what do you compare the DNA to is it I've seen it listed as part human other things, say a known prime eate. We have to compare it. To absolutely, and I'm right there with it. And it's almost like you need to get that evidence where an individual can say, Okay, we saw it, and we saw it leave do something that would have left the hair on a fence post and then I went over to the fence post and I got the hair, and so that you can say, yes, I saw and then these this hair or whatever evidence you have is directly from the creature. I think that would be a great thing to do. Besides, you know, I don't know if we're at the point where we need to have an actual body on the slab. If we have gotten to the point where people like Darby have really amazing skills for doing DNA testing and they're really going after it, it would be cool if we could prove it without that.

38:43 And I've also heard stories, and I've had people that have talked to me off record and hey, we saw this on the side of the road in Oregon and then it disappeared when we went back there and there were like black SUVs. And you hear a variant of that story every once in a while. But it's just it's very interesting. There's a lot of things going on behind the background that hopefully we'll come to late soon enough, we'll see. In your years of talking to people that have had sightings through the BFRO. Do you have. Do you remember a conversation where the witness got a really good look at what they were seeing, and they were able to convey what that looked like to you in a way that was very impressive.

39:40 Most of the individuals that I've had reports come to me, they didn't really get an up close look like some of the hunters looking through a scope. I know there's a lot of those on the BFRO. When that comes to mind, was I believe in Tucker County where a guy was looking at through the scope and the general consensus when this happens is it looked too human. I was afraid to pull the trigger. It just looked human, and I thought, what if it's someone in a suit, and then am I going to be charged with murder? Or what is this thing? I don't Is it fart human?

40:20 Is it a wild human? And so they wouldn't shoot it. But most of the individuals that I've get reports from and they saw it at a distance or it was a road crossing and they didn't really get a good look at the face. Yeah, I would agree the conversations you hear with hunters where they are able to look through a scope and a man. I'm thinking of one specifically with Actually it was on Russ Jones's show that he used to do. And it was with Darryl Collier from down southeast Oklahoma and area X, And it was the same type of conversation, like Darryl had it in its sights through the scope and he wasn't able to squeeze the trigger because at the end of the day he didn't know if it was a human and he didn't want to be charged for something. Yeah, I think that story gets repeated over and over again.

41:17 But yeah, that's an area I would absolutely love to go to sometime. They get so much stuff there, it's just wild. I was thinking that maybe that's if they were going to harvest a bigfoot, that would probably be where it would come from. But I think some of them have changed their opinion on that as well. There. Yeah, if you're going off of the book that came out a few years ago, because like that was their thing for years as they were trying to get a specimen right, and they had the whole protocol like, Okay, if we get one, what do we do and are we just are taking the whole thing? Are we taking parts?

42:01 And how do we get out of here safely without being taken out by other ones? But then I think they switched over to trying to just get like photos, but that I think that was actually before they had the split in the group. So who knows. There's not a lot of information that's come out from the group after that split. Who knows what we've got going on now down there. But Greg, this has been a really interesting conversation. I've learned a lot more about West Virginia and what's going on with bigfoot in there. We don't get to talk to a lot of guys from West Virginia, but I do appreciate you you coming on the show, and I want to make sure that you were able to share everything that you had come to the show with. Today.

42:46 I just wanted to mention about doctor Meldrum. I bought a huge hole that just kind of leaves in that the bigfoot community. And I spoke with him this past year at West Rodinia Bigfoot Festival. He had been there for several years and he was just a great guy to talk to and so much knowledge. Just a fantastic guy, just a really nice man. And we stood and talked about the DNA study and could you get DNA from hair? And I questioned him about legend meat science and when that was going to come out and we chatted about that and he was really looking forward to that coming out soon. And yeah, just my condolence is still to his family and it's just a huge loss to the Bigfoot community.

43:34 I agree one hundred percent. And there have been so many individuals that have been actually lost in this community over the last few months in twenty twenty five. It's just a lot to deal with it. It reminds me of there's been certain conversations I've had over the years where it's like, what are we going to do when certain people, when we lose certain people who are going to be what we do when it's that time to step up and to make sure things keep moving in the community. And like, guys, it's right now, like it is at bat like right now, there's so many people that have moved on that wear it.

44:17 Make sure you're doing the right type of research, that you're documenting things the right way, that you are talking to the right people, and that the information gets out there, and you know when disclosure and does come about, that we are prepared to do the right things regarding conservation or things of that nature. There's going to have to be a ton of people that step up for sure. I'm on the same mindset of Russ Jones and Brad Tennon. I want to be there when they sit. They said, we want to be right there in the front row, saying, I'll told you. That that would be something. Good stuff I told you all these years.

44:59 Yeah, oh yeah, I hear you. But Greg, is there a way that, let's say, if people want to report something about the areas that we've been talking about today in West Virginia, how would you recommend that they go about doing that? They can go to BFRO dot net and file report and just put my name down for an investigator. They can contact me on Facebook under Gregory Lambert and I will respond to that as well. But the more reports we get the documentation on the BFRO, that just helps build our case.

45:40 Absolutely. Thank you so much for coming on the show. Greg. It's been a pleasure talking to you, and I hope you have a great rest of your day. Thanks Jerrem, I appreciate you having me on. You do the same as well. Before we wrap this episode, I want to say something directly to a very specific group of listeners. If you're in the Middle military, any branch or forces, and if you've seen something that no one can explain, or if you're a National park ranger or forestry worker who's been told to stay quiet, or if you're a pilot who's seen something strange down on the ground, or if you're with the FBI a federal agency, or working intelligence and you stumbled upon something you're not allowed to talk about.

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