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0:00 You're listening to BIGFA Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring you first hand encounters from people who say they've seen something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere, and each one leaves us with more questions than answers. These are the voices of the people who've lived it. To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that just might change the way you see the woods forever. So stay with us, all right, pick the Society. We got the privilege of talking to Terry today. Terry is out there from Lane County, Oregon, and we got connected after I saw Terry's comment on a recent Oregon episode, and she's got some really interesting things to share about the lull Fall Creek lookout Point Lake area, which is just to the west of Oakridge there, so a lot of really interesting things are going to be shared in this one. I know we've talked a little bit off record already, but welcome to the show.

1:08 Terry. How are you doing today? I'm doing well, Thank you. Absolutely as you probably know, this is one of my favorite places to talk about. I just really love this area Oakridge, and you know, I always drive I have to drive from Eugene to oak Ridge, always drive by this reservoir and it's like once you hit the last time, especially once I hit this area, I was like, when is it going to feel weird again? And it was like, damn, once you hit that reservoir on fifty eight something about it. I was like, Oh, it's right now. It's just such such a fun, weird area. And one of these days I need to cross that bridge and go over into loll And Wineberry and Fall Creek and see what is going on over there. So we'll see me Maybe that will happen in the future. But you know, Terry, I would love to hear what you've experienced. Feel free, you know, to take us back as far back as you want to, when you first started experiencing some things out of the ordinary in this area.

2:19 Okay, my husband and I and my family have hunted in the Fall Creek, Windberry Lookout oak Ridge area for as long as I can remember, and I've always had a feeling, you know that maybe there is something different. Well in October two thousand and three, my husband and I we were elk hunting, and it was maybe mid afternoon, getting towards maybe three four o'clock, and our hunting party just kind of split up for the day because we've been having kind of a time and not really seeing much for for animals, and so my husband and I said, well, let's make one more loop and we'll go down around Wimble Pass. Anybody who's familiar with the area knows that Wimble Pass goes from the top of Bute Disappointment as it's called, but we call it Little Butte and it drops down the north side to Windbury Road, which goes around Big Fall Creek Reservoir. So we decided to go up.

3:37 So we went up, and we got an opportunity to see a bull elk, so that didn't pan out for us, so we turned around and we went back down, and then we took this road that would take us towards the end of Little Butte and we happen to look up in this clear in this huge cutting, and we're looking at saying, why is someone out there in black? This is bear season, thinking as somebody's just out there running around looking for mushrooms or something. So we pulled up to the landing, stopped and got out and I looked up and what I was seeing I did not believe I was seeing. The feelings that I had were not like to get my gun or anything like that.

4:34 I didn't feel like I was threatened. It was more or less like we were locked on each other's eyes. He was. It was probably I don't know if it was a heat, but it was probably maybe two hundred yards away, and it looked like it was only maybe one hundred yards away because of the size. And just as I went to look over to get my binoculars, and as I was putting them up to my face, it did the typical bigfoot turn and step to go behind a big brush pile, and we know brush piles aren't small. And after that occurrence, I didn't know if I wanted to go back in the woods again. I was like scared, And it changes you completely, changes how you look at things after that. So now I'm intrigued.

5:40 I want to see one again. And I have found out that my husband a family friend have also had experiences on the same ridgeline. Our family friend had rocks thrown at him. He thought it was my brother messing with him. He turned around and was storming back up to the truck and my brother was sitting there on the tailgate smoking a cigarette, not even winded. And then my husband had something behind some fine naples going back and forth, and he thought for sure it was an elk, but there was no odor or anything. But he said whatever it was wouldn't come out, and it was pretty heavy.

6:34 Like I said, we've been in these mountains for a long time. There is someone who used to live up Windbury Creek. I don't know if they still do, and I've never seen him. I haven't seen him in probably fifteen years. And I would actually like to talk to him sometime because he always drove around and he had a bigfoot figuring in his vehicle and I am just curious as if you know, there wasn't something going on there. But anyway, get back on track. We've had a rock thrown at our vehicle when we were out hunting. It was on an uphill grade and we were on a corner and it directly hit the side of the pickup and there there were marks and everything. We looked around nothing and let's see, we camped up at fall Creek Reservoir.

7:36 We've heard whoops, and we've heard trees falling over, we've heard big splashes in the water. I know someone who used to work for Oregon State Parks up there, and she said after every season that they were closed. When they would go there to open and get things cleaned up, pickup branches or whatever, there was some awfully weird things that like structures and little in the windows that were left around, and she said it was quite quite interesting at times. And off of Wimble Pass, I was at the vehicle. My husband and our friend were off walking down through the woods and everything was quiet and there was wood knocks going on and I and this was right after we had had our encounter, and so I was a little scared. So I would got back in the truck. And now it's like I'm going around listening for stuff, looking for staff. But I have definitely had my fair share of encounters. So sorry if I jumped around a little bit, But if you have any questions, Jeremiah just jumped right in. And I wanted to mention

9:08 that my very first encounter, which I didn't realize at the time what it was, was when I was in I think I had just graduated high school and I was sitting in the driveway with my boyfriend and I hear something behind us, and I turn around and look, and there's this black silhouette that was bigger than any man that I've ever seen. And my boyfriend had said something like, you know, who are you or what do you want? And by the time we turned the vehicle around, whoever that was was gone, completely gone. So that was my very first experience, which I had forgotten about that, and I had put it way back, and I just actually remembered it like about two months ago. I've heard people mention this on this podcast before, and I didn't realize it until I was just like, you know what, I've had other experiences. Why didn't I notice that? And I have camped it ivan Oaks before, which I know that there's another report out of ivan Oaks. I never had any experiences there, but you know, and maybe I wasn't noticing then, but it's a really neat area, and you know, some sometime I want to go back and

10:40 I and I just want to take my time and and kind of hang out and do some own research of my own. But I think that that's probably everything that I have experienced in a nutshell, but I am, you know, looking to experience more. So I think that's all I have. Yeah, there is a lot that that was just shared in that amount of time. Was thank you, Terry for sharing that. We have a lot of stuff to go over. So you had mentioned your earlier sightings to me before the recording started. Are you comfortable to share because it's a different town where that sighting happened in?

11:27 Absolutely? Yeah. It was just outside of Jasper, up Wallace Creek Road, and our house was probably two and a half miles off the main road up towards the top of the canyon. So what it looks like is that when you when you're driving along Wallas Creek Road, it's kind of flat and everything, and then right before you turn off to go to our on our road, to go to our house, you would start winding up the canyon and going upgrade. And then our property was on the left hand side, kind of on a hillside, and there was a creek that ran down Wallas Creek Road, which of course Wallas Creek, and that was at our twenty acre homestead just outside of Jasper, and that was probably nineteen eighty six or seven, gotcha.

12:33 I know that I know of at least one other sighting that happened around Jasper. It was much more recent. I believe they saw one running on the side of a hill and almost it was running super super fast. And I can't remember the exact year. I'd have to look. So listeners will definitely want to look at the sighting map that's on big for Society podcast dot com. And if you look at the Fall Creek Loll area, Windburry, you'll notice how many different things have been on the show already, and it's it's not up to date yet. I still have a few hundred shows to go through.

13:16 But so you mentioned Ivan Oaks, but there's also let's see so specifically Wimble Pass. Now, there was a gentleman I talked to back in not too long ago is episode eight eighty six, and he shared something that happened on Windberry Creek Road which was by a cattle guard pull off and they were just surrounded with whoops and footfalls and just crazy, crazy stuff happening. And it sounds like that's very close to where your situation happened as well.

13:56 Yes, if you look at at a map or will you drive fifty eight quite a bit were then the butt is they're a little vite with all the towers on it. Okay, okay, So if you follow that back as you're driving fifty eight and you're looking over there, that whole ridge line that goes, I mean it goes way way up there. Almost a Buckhead Park which is up by westfer where he's talking about is just right over like the middle of that range there of Windberry Creek Road, there is an old well. I think there's family members that still live up there, and I know exactly where he's talking about, and that would be just right down the hill from where my experience happened and where the other experiences happened of people that I know. Wow, so it does. It really doesn't surprise me, but I am I'm glad that you know, to hear that there's still stuff going on for sure.

15:06 Oh absolutely, And I mean other things that have happened. There was the postal worker in twenty fourteen, I believe that had the sighting and then the park ranger said, yeah, we had fourteen other calls from your area just last night, when it's just that whole area is just absolutely wild, wild, wild. So thinking back to what you saw, did it line up with what, Let's say, if someone before had been like, hey, you know, before you've actually seen a big foot. You're like, oh, you're going to see a bigfoot and you have that picture in your mind of what, you know, what pop culture thinks. Did it line up with what you saw that day? Or was it different at all? In any way?

15:56 It was exactly what I would think that it would look like, and upright bipedal Harry, you know person, you know it didn't have the real pointy cone head, of course. I mean if it did, I couldn't tell because of the distance. But there was, you know, no mistaking what it was at all. I knew exactly what I was looking at. And my husband's still kind of like reserved, you know that. You know, he wants more proof, and I'm like, you can't get more proof than that. You know, it was, it was, It was amazing, but yet you know it changes you. And I don't know if you've heard people say that before, but you know it changes how you look at stuff.

16:52 Oh sure, one hundred percent. Were you able to get a feel for what what color it was? Black? Okay? Black? As night. Interesting, very interesting. Have you heard of any sightings in that same area of like one that would be more kind of blonde strawberry blonde at all? I haven't. It's really weird. If there's I'm struggling to think of the number because it's an older episode, but there's a sighting of a strawberry blonde one in that same Fall Creek area. Wow.

17:38 Wow wowow. Man. The other thing I want to throw out, just in case the right person is listening, is the first time I was at Sasquatch Summer Fest and Oakridge, I had these individuals tell me that there was actually in the seventies, there was a the University in Eugene did a study of sightings of the Windberry wild Man, which is pretty much the other name I guess for the bigfoot in that area. But I've not been able to track that information down. If anyone listening knows, I'd love to try to get access to it or how to read or listen to those reports. But just throwing that out there as well, can you explain a little bit about what what did the whoops sound like that you heard around the reservoir?

18:37 They were just like it was something that we had never heard before in the in the woods, and you know, now and I hear noises, it's almost like, okay, do I recognize that? It was just you know, really like it wasn't a high pitch, and it was just like, well, just like that, okay, And and then you know, it was just a little bit more subtle than that churse. You know, I don't have a deep voice, but but yeah, it was just like that. And it was just a few times. And and the park ranger that that we're good friends with said, you know that it's not unusual.

19:24 And a lot of people that that camp up there don't know what that noise is, and so you know that they just don't even recognize it. So so that's a big thing for that individual to say that it's it's not unusual, uh, in that people are hearing whatever you've so it's not just one off. There are multiple people hearing this sound, these whoops, And did it sound like anything you would hear in a zoo at all? You know, I haven't been to a zoo since I was a kid. I always I am I would I honestly, I can't answer that. I mean, I don't know, I.

20:11 Say that because I was just out on an overnight and I actually did. It was a brilliant active area, and I captured and I recorded a whoop. But the thing is is that a lot of people, when they say I heard a whoop, they'll say, maybe it sounds like like a given call if you've heard like a gibbon in the zoo. The one I captured sounded more like like a singular drop of water. But the signature when you look at it in like Audacity or a sound spectrogram program, the same signature as a whoop will be every time. All right, this is Jeremiah editing the episode.

20:58 I'm gonna go ahead and throw it in the noise that I captured in an undisclosed location in Iowa. This is also recorded at three forty eight am in the morning. There's no one else in the primitive campground with me. The first twenty seconds you'll hear is the actual unedited audio, so it's very hard to hear. It's about nine seconds in dan you'll hear a four second clip that'll repeat a few times where it's amplified. So here you go.

22:00 So that experiencing that recently has made me kind of ask questions a little differently about like, Okay, what kind of did you hear? If you know what I mean? So right, yeah, yeah, that makes sense because you know there's different vocal tones too, and a different loop, can you know mean something? You know, do you have many different loops there are out there? This loop could mean that, or this weep could mean this. You know, you don't really know, but I mean, the main thing is is that we're recognizing them.

22:40 It really is. And man, it's it's such an interesting thing. And I'm just going to talk for a minute. But it's interesting because you have this area which is totally just soaked in bigfoot activity. If you if you're looking from Fall Creek over to Oakridge, and I mean you look at I've talked to the rangers a few times. In the ranger station. They have bigfoot posters up in the actual place, like where you walk into behind the desk, there's big foot paraphernalia up. So there's definitely stuff that is known. It's I think it comes down to having those relationships and being able to talk to the right people, and the right people might talk to someone like you more so because you live there as opposed to a guy who flies in one time a year from Iowa with his podcast.

23:47 Right, but. Yeah, the same guy that you talk to about the whoops. Has he said anything about people reporting sightings up that area as well? No, I had never asked back at that time. It was one of those things to where you know, you didn't talk about it. I kept my encounter to myself for many years and I just you know, dealt with it until you know, someone could pop up a conversation and start talking about stuff, and then it would come out that, you know, my husband and I had this experience.

24:29 And so then as years went by and it's becoming you know, people are becoming more aware, there's more you know, uh people talking about it. And now it seems that if you know, as a people are more comfortable talking about it now. I agree. So it was that we had regular conversations about and so. This was this conversation that would have been back close to to two thousand and three you're saying. We had with our park ranger friend was probably within we moved to Central Oregon in twenty sixteen, so probably mid two thousands.

25:21 Okay, well, yeah, so not too bad. Yeah, so it was more current, you know, like maybe two thousand and eight to two thousand and twelve thirteen. Very interesting. What do you think is the most recent activity you've heard of personally in that area? Honestly, I haven't had anybody mention anything to me from you know, like the wimble Wind burying area. I have been trying to find areas of activity over here in central Oregon, and so I'm not really in touch with many people on the west side, gotcha.

26:28 Yeah, I mean there's there's a lot going on, for sure. I don't know if you've ever made it down to the area. Fifty eight Museum and Oakridge yet that's a that's a good group of people to talk to about the area as well, pretty close. Yeah, yeah, you should check it out. It's great. So it's it's it's really what it is is a bigfoot museum for for the area, headed up by Priscilla who also heads up the Sasquat Summerfest festival in Oakridge every year. So they have a U it's a right next to the DQ in Oakridge. So I usually really check it out. You love it?

27:09 Yeah, I actually should. Great people to talk to you, for sure. So you mentioned that, so you guys are elk hunters, and so you go all over the area. You also mentioned that you've hunted over in Oakridge. Have have you had anything weird or the ordinary happen over there on that side? No, it's it's been down towards the from like Ivan Oaks over to Windbury and then down the low. Okay, it's been on that lower. Gotcha. Mm hmmm. One thing I like to throw out on interviews in this area just in case. I've had some people throw out that they've seen other things in that area but they'd never want to go on record about.

28:01 And so we're not talking like Bigfoot, but we're talking about like maybe weird stuff like ferries or trolls or gnomes or anything like that. Is that anything that you've ever heard of walking around? I have not. The only thing out of the ordinary that I've seen is we were camping at Cascara Campground there on Fall Creek Reservoir, and right after dusk we saw a red light that was hovering and when it started to lower towards the tree line, which was out of crow flies, probably maybe eight ten miles away from us, we could see the trees illuminate and as it descended I got closer to the trees that there was more light being spread out through the trees, and then just in a snap, it was gone. That was the only other out of the ordinary thing I've seen besides the rabbit and a squirrel chasing each other.

29:22 You know, gotcha, gotcha? Yeah? No, that's uh. I mean, I gotten a few UFO things out of Oakridge, But you hear a lot of the light stuff like up in like McKinsey Bridge, Rainbow Thin Rock area, all that kind of further north of you guys, That's where I get a lot of that stuff. But man, that is that is really cool. Do you have any thoughts about why there might be a ton of bigfoot activity in the area around like all Creek and the reservoirs?

30:03 Sure? My thought is is that you have Lookout Reservoir, and you have Fall Creek Reservoir on each side of a heavily timbered, wooded brushy ridgeline, and on either side you've got access to water, food, and then in the on the ridgeline you have you know, the timber, the brush for security for concealment, the habitat and so, and then you have your food sources. Deer elp and whatnot.

30:53 So I think that because it's such a hot spot there that that is why, because there's all kinds of resources there to survive. When you say food, what would you be referring to. You know, like fish out of the lakes water and then then you're deer in elk, birds, rabbits, all kinds of food sources and berries. There's tons of berries up there. Everywhere you look, there's BlackBerry vines and that's where we would get all of our blackberries ourselves. So yeah, there's a lot of food sources there.

31:40 Gotcha this question. I could always look it up through the census. But since you are familiar with the area, what's your approximation for the amount of people that live on the other side of the reservoir in this area, like you know Fall Creek, lowl. All that area, Fall Creek, Windberry. Well, let's start at if you don't mind, start at Lookout because on the boundary road there is last I knew between mileposts one and mile post five. I believe there was only like maybe four residences at that at the time, full time residences.

32:32 Then when you hop over Wimble passed to Windberry, you've got probably I'm gonna say six from the bridge clear up past the cattle guard, and then between Windberry and Big Fall Creek over where the caround is there's probably a handful. And then I don't believe that there are any alongside the other part of the reservoir until you get down below the dam, so there's really not that many.

33:22 And then at Big Fall pick towards the campgrounds like Dolly Varden and those, there are residences up there, and they're up there quite a ways, So I mean, yeah, there's not many, but that there is a feel. Wow, I was way less than I was thinking. To be honest, that's pretty wild, because man, I can't imagine some of those people are probably being messed with at their their houses or having some interactions base. I would think so. Yeah, I would think so too. That's crazy. If they're listening, they can always reach out for sure. And then Loll is loll kind of the size of Oakridge or a little bit. It's it's smaller, isn't it.

34:08 Lowell is probably about that. Yeah, Okay, cool, cool cool, I. Would think so. And Little Fall Creek, it's hard to say because the way that county goes to some people might be considered loll and then some people might be considered Fall Creek. So it's really, you know, kind of difficult to tell. But but yeah, there I would say it's probably about the same for sure. Hmmm, based on what you've seen and what you've experienced. Do you have any thoughts about you know, we know that it's what it's called, either bigfoot or sasquatch, but do you have any thoughts about what we are dealing with when we're talking about whatever that creature is?

35:01 Yeah, I mean, I think that somewhere something's got to give, you know, because it's like, you know, I nobody wants to wants to hurt them as far as I know, and we we just want we just want to know what they're about. You know that That's what I'm wondering. I think of them as as bigfoot, you know, and and the mystery. Continues, absolutely, and it's it's one of the best ones. I mean, no matter if you think of it as there's a bunch of undiscovered apes out there or you know, feral people, or or you know, cousins to two human beings that have just gone into the woods and haven't come out. There's so so many, so many ways to think about it, and it is it is really cool.

36:02 I hope that you are able to have another interaction. It sounds like you are actively pursuing after it. And I mean, if you're able to go to this area, you really are in the right area. And if you're able to talk to Priscilla and those guys over in Oakridge, they might be able to give you some cool information as well. But it has been really fun talking to you today, Terry, and it's just cool to hear more from this area of loll in Full Creek. And if people listening again, if you know more information about this area, or really any area in the region, feel free to reach out to me. You can send me an email Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com. But Terry, I want to make sure that you were able to share everything that you came on the show to share it today.

36:56 Yes I did, and I thank you so very much. Hey, how's it going? What's uping man? Hey? Good? Good? How are you? I'm doing good? I just uh, you've been popping up on my four you page. I forget. Yeah, I appreciate you. Yeah, I got a little channel I've been running. I got. I live here in Apalachia, Putnam County, West Virginia. And. Uh yeah, man, I've been having a lot of activity up three years. It's been nuts for the past few years.

37:37 Oh my goodness. Do you have any anything, any experience that any experiences that you could share? Oh, yeah, sure. I I don't know how long they've been around my property until I started noticing them. I've lived here for probably ten years now. But back five years ago, i'd let my dogs out and they'd went up into the woods, you know, and they were barking, and so I went to go retrieve him out of the woods. And I was standing right next to this big white oak tree, and I was just happen to look off to the left and it was like this little death l again, like a little heel, and a sasquatch popped up over the hill and he was probably about fifteen feet from me, and it was a little juvenile.

38:34 He's probably about five foot tall. And I just remember what he looked like, you know, he smirked on his face, and. Then he stepped six foot about six foot to the left and got behind a big tree. And I was sitting there watching him, and every so often I would see his arm flare out and I could tell that he was backing out of the woods. You know, that's a that's a military maneuver man. He was. He was freaking using that tree. He put that tree in between me and him, and he he grassed out of the woods. And I could tell he was walking out because his arms were getting smaller and smaller. I mean, that is a high grieve intelligence, you know what I mean.

39:21 Mhm. It just blew my mind then, And so then I started looking for him every time after I had that experience, I just kept looking for him, you know, constantly looking up in the woods. You know. Wow, So you gotta could look at his his face. Do you remember was it covered with hair or were there parts that didn't have hair? Oh? I know exactly what it looks like. Uh. He he was. He was jet black, but his chest was gray like a lighter gray color. And his face same way, jet black. His ears had a little tip on the ears that was hairless on top of his ears, and his face he had it was two tongue color like it was it was his hair was black and then right around his eyes and down around his nose and like the the opposite of go tee area, you know what I'm saying, was like a lighter gray color. His chest was gray and muscular. I mean, I could tell he was just a he was a juvenile man.

40:32 He was already built, you know what I mean. You could tell you had to strength in his hands. His nails were black. His eyes, he had like. An amber colored eyes, but they were larger as his pupils were enormous, like compared to ours. You know. They had big eyeballs and big and a very prominent like eyebroun eyebrows I read, you know what I'm saying, very thick bone. You could tell pretty muscular type. I hate to say eight because that's not really a good way to explain him. But you know, like the apes have that larger eyebrow, you know, temporarias really swollen and muscular kind of like that. And yeah, he noticed me, and he just he smirked like he was surprised that I was able to see. I mean, it wasn't nothing special, like I did anything special. It was just I was hiding.

41:40 I wasn't even really hide and it was just I was standing and there was a white oak tree in between me and it and I could see around the white oak tree. But it was you know, my silhouette was so small that he didn't notice me right away, and he walked a few steps up over the hill before he realized I was there. And yeah, it was I couldn't believe what I've seen, you know what I mean. And then I started getting apples and stuff. And I've had quite a bit of experiences since then. I had the the little baby juvenile was riding on my poodle.

42:25 They got on her back and was riding her across the yard. They they would ride her back, the babies would and they would run along the tree line. I got a video up on my channel about it shows I wont riding one of my dog's back. It was crazy, really, Yeah. Absolutely, yeah. They seem pretty friendly, you know that. I have had no I've not gotten no evil intent or nothing like that from him. Maybe except one time they grunned a little loud at me when I got too close to one of the kids down in the brush.

43:15 On my property. One of the little juveniles would get on the roof of my house. I got a video of them up on the roof of my house. Oh uh, So after that I did. I really didn't know what their intent was. So, you know, I was constantly worried about my dogs because you know, I had four little dogs and I just let them out the back door, and I you. Know, I didn't put no leashes on them or not. I just let them go. But but now that I know those damn sasquats are there, I was worried about letting them out without least. I didn't know if they'd heard them or not, you know, until I started seeing them, the kids playing with them and whatnot, and I realized it wasn't more to hurt them.

44:10 I don't put them on a leash no more. But yeah, man, it was. It was kind of scary there for a little bit, not knowing what they're dealing with. Oh. Absolutely, not too long ago, like a it's probably been a month ago. I was. I just fed my dogs here. It was like eight thirty and. Sorry, I just heard I'm not on my back porch, but I heard some noise outside and they ran outside and see what it was. And yeah, I seen them up in the tree line, and at first it just kind of looked like a blur because they were running so fast and try to get my camera out in the time to record them. But I had when I'd let my dogs out earlier that day, they heard me calling my dog lay one. One's named Lady, and they were calling from the woods, Lady, trying to call my dog into the woods. And so they're starting to do that now too. They're getting comfortable enough to where they are trying to play with my dogs every Tuesday, come across my land.

45:33 Wow, this is uh, this is some some wild stuff. Thank you for coming up and for sharing your experiences so far. Uh. So, I do have a podcast where I talk to people about their bigfoot encounters. Would I be able to use the audio from this conversation on that podcast. Yeah, that'd be fine. I just my last encounter. I'll tell you my last encounter I had with them. Okay, probably about uh it's been just a short time ago. But I was using the bathroom downstairs in my house, and I was using the downstairs bathroom and I was doing my business, and it was talking through my wall. It was counting the five, it was counting one, two, three, four, five, trying to get me to talk back to it. And so now so now when I go outside, I'll say one, two, three, four, five, just to say no that I'm.

46:35 You know, calling. Are those the only words that they're saying or do they see do they say other words too? No, I heard us say, I heard a. On one other occasion, I heard them talking from one's on the right and rue was on the. Left, and one said, bob, bobok. Is what it's there, bab bob, And then the other one just mack the tree. Let it know it was talking to.

47:15 That's that's wild stuff, guys. I see a lot of people in the comments saying they they want to be able to see your videos. His username on TikTok is Appalachian Cryptids. But yeah, it's just fallo him right now and you'll be able to check it out. So I appreciate you coming up. Man. Yeah, I'm a good man. Keep to work. Thank you. Hey, We'll talk to you later. Yeah later. Hi there, how are you? Hi? How are you? Yeah? He's definitely real. Definitely. I'm I'm from Massachusetts, but I have traveled on my motorcycle to the mountains in New Hampshire, Maine, Vermont, and no question in my mind, no question, because I have heard stuff while I was camping for twenty years.

48:09 I've heard stuff. It's no doubt in my mind, no doubt in my mind that he exists. Wow. Where have you Where have you been that you've experienced stuff out there? Oh geez? On motorcycle back in my younger days, Maine, Canada, Vermont, New Hampshire, all in all in the New England area. And I have heard stuff. I mean, before the days the smartphones you could actually record stuff. I've heard stuff. I've seen stuff, and no question in my mind, no question.

48:57 Wow. Can you think of any specific instances that you might be able to share? I can so. Oh god. So I'm fifty five now. But when I was in my early thirties, I went on a motorcycle trip down the Blue Ridge Parkway through the mountains there. Yep, and oh god, I will never forget this night. So we went to this campsite and you know, we set up camp and we fell asleep. In the middle of the night we heard this ungodly, ungodly scream and it wasn't human.

49:41 It couldn't have been human. It couldn't have been And I looked up my boyfriend at the time, I'm like, this isn't right. This isn't a person screaming, this is like And it screamed for like three minutes, this deep guttural scream. And it didn't come from a human. You know, you could tell if it comes from a human, you just know. And it did not. And it was in the Blue Ridge, the Blueish Mountains. It was. It was the scariest thing I've ever gone through. And I've never shared this experience with anyone, and it was it was terrifying. We couldn't sleep the whole night because of it. It was. It was like nothing I've ever heard in my entire life. And people all think we're crazy and they laugh at us, but it was nothing like I've ever my human ears I've ever heard in my entire life.

50:47 It was nuts. That area down there is really intense too. It is. So here's the funny thing. So it was back in the nineties, and so the unibomber, he's so. Cusy, it's easy, easy on the terms. Well do you know what I'm talking about. So he was apparently hiding out in the hills during that time, and I'm I called my mom. I remember it distinctly. I called my mom a payphone. I'm like, hey, we're here, but it was a cold So and SO was hiding out in these mountains, gonna be careful, like, Okay, yeah, that wasn't that guy, Like we woke up at two am and heard this unhuman scream in the nineties And I'll never for the rest of my life forget that sound in my head. It it wasn't human. It definitely it couldn't have been, so I will I will never forget that. And everyone laughs and everyone, and you know what, you can laugh while you want. If you didn't experience it, you don't understand what you heard.

52:06 It was. It was wild. It was wild. Wow. I appreciate you coming up and sharing that for the first time. Mike, Goodness, is this a conversation I could play on my Bigfoot podcast that I have. You absolutely can if you want. All right, I appreciate you coming up. I've got a few other people I want to check in with. But it's been fun chatting with you tonight. Thank you all right, man, Take care. You too, Hey, Mark, how's it going. Good? How are you doing great? What brings you up? Sir?

52:51 I actually wanted to tell you about I saw your sight about on here a few times. Okay, I wanted to tell you about a sighting I had in Canada. My mother always took us so on Vaca middle of July, and this particular year we went up to Canada and got on the agin Law Canyon UH train tour. I don't know if you know where that is. That's like you get on it in the suit and in the upper Peninsula of Michigan.

53:44 Okay. It goes up from there just into the wilderness. It pretty much follows the UH pretty much follows the border up but goes pretty deep into the woods. Anyways, there's one spot on that rail I was with my cousin. We were like nine or ten, and we were standing between railcars. Instead of being inside the rail car, we were like standing in between them, hanging over the rail just checking out the scenery. Well, we were coming around this We were on this trestle. It was coming around a lake and this lake was pretty large and as we came around the lake on the trustle, we could see where the land was coming up and there was like a brook that came down a waterfall and then went into the lake. Right next to that brook sat a blonde Sasquatch. If you've ever seen Todd Standing's photos.

55:21 There's one there that's relatively blonde. It looked just like that as far as it's facial features. This thing was huge. And the thing that got me was it actually was drinking water. It actually stuck its hand into the waterfall and brought it back up to its mouth and took a drink. Wow, that's awesome. We got to. See that white a while, and it was it wasn't like you know, I know, it made eye contact with me.

56:11 I could feel it, basically, But at the same time, neither one of us were in a position where we would be scared. You know. Had a few things that I thought were odd here and there, but I you know, I don't really mention them to anybody, because well I do mention them, but they call me nuts for, you know, thinking that I'm seeing x's or stuff like that. But anyways, I saw one other time I live in New York now, and one other time we were traveling to a funeral on eighty It was it's east west eighty ninety going through Pennsylvania and New York. Well, we're in New York heading towards Pennsylvania, and the highway is divided like has like, oh, quite a bit of land in between the two different

57:42 directions of the expressway, and then it has fences on the expressway to keep the animals off, you know, like cal fence's. Well, I was just. Gazing out the window because my wife was driving one day. Well that day when we were going and I looked over towards this barn, and I saw this thing that was just it's it's so hard to describe because I don't know if you've ever seen a bear run, it's sort of I don't know if they call it a barrel.

58:38 It's sort of barrels along because that it looks like a barrel's just moving along, you know, because you can't really see its feet, just sort of just because of the way it keeps its nose down. Well, this wasn't like that. It was much bigger than a bear, and I mean it just spread its arms completely out, grabbed ground and just I mean it just it was way on the other side of the expressway. Okay, get running behind this barn. It was actually on the other side.

59:24 It was on the expressway side of the fence, but it was running as close to that as it could. The opposite direction it was. I just sort of I don't I didn't know what to think or say or I know, I don't know if there's such a thing as dog man. Hmmm, A lot of people think so that's something I don't know a lot about. But it's i'd it's definitely out there. That was That was definitely a sasquatch or a dog.

1:00:07 I mean, I don't know if the dog man. Is just. The the sighting you had up in Canada. What lake was that by? Again, I don't know the lake. It's the railway was called agen Wah Canyon Railway. It starts at Sue Saint Marie, got it, and it should have a site, and then that site should have a map of its railway. Okay, on that map you should be able to find they might not have it on there anymore. It hits the outside corner of the lake and there's a big trestle and as it comes around there's a stream that comes off into the lake as you're going north.

1:01:24 Okay, yeah, I'll take a look at that. Looks interesting. Maybe we can get some more info from looking into that. But Mark, thank you for coming up and for Sharon. Is this a conversation I can use on my podcast. Oh absolutely. And the interesting thing about this it was that Sasquatch was blonde. That was really yeah, it was very it was butternut blonde. I mean it was just something different. It was I wasn't expected and that's for sure. But thanks for listening my story.

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