March 30, 2025

Wild Sasquatch of Massachusetts with Dave McCullough!

Join the Bigfoot Society as we delve into the unknown with Dave McCullough, a seasoned Bigfoot investigator from Massachusetts with 20 years of experience. In this episode, Dave shares comprehensive insights into Massachusetts Bigfoot sightings,...

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Season 1

Join the Bigfoot Society as we delve into the unknown with Dave McCullough, a seasoned Bigfoot investigator from Massachusetts with 20 years of experience. In this episode, Dave shares comprehensive insights into Massachusetts Bigfoot sightings, covering locations like the Berkshires, Quabbin Reservoir, and Bridgewater Triangle. Learn about mysterious vocalizations, footprint discoveries, and eerie encounters in the dense woods and rugged landscapes of the state. Get a detailed look at the diversity of Massachusetts' terrain and how it provides a habitat for these elusive creatures. Don't miss out as Dave also discusses notable expeditions, conferences, and the Squatchachusetts group. Subscribe and share this episode to stay updated on Bigfoot activity across New England.

Resources:

Cobble Mountain Critter Festival: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/the-cobble-mountain-critter-festival-tickets-1003504949317

Referenced Maine BFRO Report - https://www.bfro.net/GDB/show_report.asp?id=78256

Squatchachusetts Facebook group - https://www.facebook.com/groups/1479066879016769

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get on with the show. At Bigfoot Society, you've got

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the privilege of talking to mister Dave McCullough today. He

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is an individual from the great state of Massachusetts and

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it is a pleasure to have him on the show.

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Listeners will know in the past that I've referenced that

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I am originally from Massachusetts, specifically the Franklin County Northfield area,

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and of it. When I have people from that state

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on the show, it is a real privilege. So Dave

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a few things about yourself i'd like to share so

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listeners know some of your background. You've been a Bigfoot

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investigator for about twenty years and you're involved with helping

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both the BFROO and the Squatch a Chusetts group. So

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welcome to the show, Dave. How's it going, man, it's.

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Going good, and thank you for having me on.

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Yeah, absolutely absolutely, Oh man, it's it's it's fun if

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we were talking about the Boston accent before we started,

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and I never got that because I live out. I

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lived out in Western mass where we have dragons instead

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of accents.

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But.

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I kind of wish I had a little bit. It's

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a it's a it's a badge of honor to where

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I think.

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But it's funny to say that a guy that started

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Squatsachusetts is from Western mass and he sounds nothing like me.

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So when we go places, people picked that right off. Wait,

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don't you both guys from Massachusetts? And it's pretty funny.

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Absolutely less than two while was away from each other,

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but talk totally different.

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It's it's crazy, man, It's like, you know, there'll be

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a little bit inside baseball for Massachusetts people in this one,

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but you know, it's like the state, you know, I

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lived about in the middle, up in the north and

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you go two and a half hours west, you're down

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by Great Barrington. You go two and a half hours

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east and you can be up in the North Shore area.

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But it's just it's a really interesting state for diversity.

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But you know, Dave, whenever I have researchers investigators on

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the show, I love to start out with the course,

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you know, the question, which is you know what got

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you into this field? To begin to begin with what

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got you into the Bigfoot community?

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Well, I always had a big interest in like the

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older shows growing up in the seventies. It was in

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search of the mystery shows. I was more into UFOs

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and then I just got the bug with all the topics. Actually,

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but then then I want to say, in the nine

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needs the explosion of the Internet, would being able to

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read citing reports and information that was out there databases,

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seeing that it was really something, Then I really got

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the bug. And like you said, twenty years twenty years ago,

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I went on an expedition for the BFR Row in Whitehall,

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New York, which kind of put Bigfoot on the map

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on the East coast, and I never realized it was

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an East Coast I'm gonna as big as it is.

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And then just by you know, digging into some books

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and stories, I really learned how it's really all over

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the country. It's not just the West coast. So I

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was able to really get involved and go out around here,

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you know, having to travel forward that realizing that wow,

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every state New England has had a long history of it,

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and that I didn't have to go as far because

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at first when I first went to New York, I

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started going out that way or you know, up into Vermont,

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and then just saying that Massachusetts itself has an old

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history of it and I've just been with it ever since.

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That's fascinating.

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Was there anything that happened during that that first outing

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you had that was memorable in Whitehall?

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Not not physically seeing it anything as far as bigfoot wise,

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but I did see some mobs and we did have

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some odd sounds through the night in the woods. But

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it just got my met a lot of great people

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from it, and still friends with a lot of them

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have met up over the years, just kind of like

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reunion camping and but no, but Bigfoot related, No, nothing

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really happened then on that expedition.

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Gotcha it was there a time when you realized that, hey, okay,

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there is something going on here in Massachusetts and you

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yourself got involved with looking into it.

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Yeah, going out with a few people and hearing wood

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knocks and then hearing a really good vocalization in an

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area was western mass out and the Birch Years Mountains

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where we just knew on the ride in it's ten

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minutes in one road that there was no vehicles, no homes,

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no so you can kind of rule out, like, you know,

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people out in the woods partying or anything like that.

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So I was kind of convincing there. And since then,

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like over twenty years though, I've only had i'd say

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four good vocalizations and one really good tree snapped that

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was a close range and you know, not a big

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tree but a chapling, but totally snapped and slammed into

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the ground. Pretty good. Was probably I'm still waiting for

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that clear sighting, no sighting yet, but a lot of

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strange stuff. We've had a couple images on thermal. You know,

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again it's a blob, but it's something big and giving

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out some heat, so you know, you get a good

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idea of it, but until you get there, really hardcore

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proof that this is what made it, Like you can

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think what it is, and I think and I know

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what it was, but no, not that clear daylight, absolute visual.

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I'm still waiting for that.

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Gotcha.

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Something I think we should address, probably right off of that,

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because there's people that listen to this really all over

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the world and definitely all over the US, and the

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viewpoint of Massachusetts from that side would be I think

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a lot of it is going to be like, oh,

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the whole state is Boston. So when you get people

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that are like, Okay, there's no way there's going to

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be bigfoot in Massachusetts. It's just you know, Boston and

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the Freedom Trail and Benway Park and all that, how

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do you respond to that.

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I'd say, like you were saying earlier, it's quite diverse.

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Starting out in western mass on the New York side,

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the Appalachian Mountain Lanes goes right up to Massachusetts, so

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there's a lot of hills and mountainous regions out that way.

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But as you go across the state, elevation goes down

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more into rolling hills and farms all the way to

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you know, the East coast, where I'm not sure if

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you heard the Bridgewater Triangle, it's more Promolling Hills down

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basically to you know, the ocean Cape cod where it's

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more marshy and you know, very low elevation swamp that

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whole probably quarter chunk of the eastern part of the state.

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So it's very very different from Western Mass where it's

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very wooded and very very hilly, pretty good terrain down

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to like Marshland and Cranberry Roads and basically right to

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the right to the coast, and there's been a lot

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of hiss. There's been a lot of action in the

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last two years down that way. It's southeast mast.

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Oh really, so you're talking about like down by the

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Bridgewater or Triangle.

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Yeah, yeah, it was actually down there last week some

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people filmed the good foot track they had in the snow.

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It's still being looked at, but I'm pretty convinced of

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what it is. It was seventeen inches five toes. It

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looks like it slipped so on the cast it looks

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like it was cast by spray. From the person that

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found it was totally new to it, didn't know what

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to do, and so they covered it and then spray.

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They actually sprayed it with flex seil, which is black

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so he could really see the outline in the detail

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because it was tough to see in the snow. It

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was still pretty I want to say, two or three

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inches of snow, so you could see it, but you

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really couldn't really see the detailed until they kind of

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highlighted it with black and then spray foamed it. And

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but that was their first experience about it. They knew

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nothing about it. Someone contacted us, and uh, there's been

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other sightings in that general area over the last five

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or six years. It's actually a wild life management area

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that's probably a good ten miles away from the coast.

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It's where it really starts going turning from swamp and

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boards into woods. It's still wooded, but mostly swampy. And

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these people are on two hundred acres of land of

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bogs and marsh. And so that was pretty Uh that

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was like right from last weeks. So that's as really

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fresh as it gets. And then there's last year there

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was a couple of good audio recordings taken out of

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the same area Rochester, Mass One is which I sent.

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I don't know if you might play later on, but yeah,

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it's pretty hot, pretty hot area, and it's had a

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long history going back to you know, as part as

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the earliest Native Americans in that area. In fact, the

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Hockey Mark Swamp, which is the swamp and the Triangle.

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It actually means places where spirits dwell. It's an Indian word.

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But it's very interesting place, not just Bigfoot stuff. It

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has a lot of UFO activity orbs, very haunted because

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it's colonial while the Indian Wars, which is you know

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what a lot of people down that way think it's

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all from. Is Bigfoot's just a tip of the iceberg.

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But it's Uh, it's good to have friends down there.

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Like I'm an hour and a half away, so there's

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really I'm more north of Boston, where I'm more in

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a city, so to get to these areas where it's

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nice to get away, So I like getting the call

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to somewhere to go, reason to get down there. There's

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a lot of stuff down that way. It's not it's

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totally different as far as elevation. There's no mountains, no hills,

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but it's just very dense, especially when the foliage comes in,

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when the spring and summer come in, it's very sick

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and thorny, and a lot of areas that you can

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get into now, like in a few months, you won't

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even be able to get in. I mean you can

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get pretty close, but you really need to bushwhack your

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way in there. That's why I think when the when

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the weather is nice, as one picks up, as when

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people hair lot see stuff.

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I think right now might be a good time. Because

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you sent that, uh that sound over, we could definitely

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play that. And I just want to first comet you

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sent the video of those footprint that footprint over, which

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is very interesting video. Was that that was a trackway

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as well or just a single track that was.

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A single track. There was other stuff on the ground

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and they're all on a straight line, but that one

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it was a pot the trail that went behind a

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tree where it was you know that the area was

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mostly no snow, but there was that one little patch.

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I don't know if you can see it in the

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video where she raises a camera. It's just all dirt

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and so it was the very last patch of snow

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next to the shade. You know. Only it just got

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lucky that that thing happened the past. Who could have

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been in a night where it didn't see the snow.

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But you can actually see where it skidded a little

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in the hills, definitely elongated. You can see, actually you

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can see it looks like a mid tossel break or

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a ridge in the middle of it. But if the

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people on your show can see that, Yeah, I after

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I said that, I didn't even realize that it's a

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phone you're gonna be doing a phone interview. But if

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we were able to see that, that's where that was

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just last week, Like I said.

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Yeah, And I don't know, if I can get in

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touch with the person who who filmed the video, I

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might try to to get the okay to put it

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on the YouTube version of the interview. I'll have to

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do some work on that on the side, but I

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think that would be that would be kind of cool

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for people to see that.

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But we can talk about that later. But I could

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message it today and perfect.

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You're right, I'd rather just get the okay and yeah,

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just be fine with it.

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Yeah, absolutely, the audio that you also sent, I'm gonna

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go ahead and play that now and then maybe if

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there's any commentary that you could provide after that, and

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then now we could we could focus on that for

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a bit, all right, So I'm gonna go ahead and

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queue that up here.

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All right, that's interesting it is.

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Yeah, that's a great, great call. That was from last year.

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I was contacted. A gentleman was walking up through the night,

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probably three in the morning, and he could hear this

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thing going off. It woke him right out of bed

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and he just stuck his phone out the door and

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he just happened to catch the end of that. But

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he said it was going off for like a minute

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before he ran down and didn't know what the heck

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to do and figured it's gonna stop, you know, like

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what the heck is that? So he finally ran down

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and just held his phone out to do it. But

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he wasn't going outside for sure. And that that was

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in Rochester, mass That's just so that's in the bridge

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want a triangle towards the bottom of it. And they

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talked to his neighbors over the last couple next couple

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of days just to see if they heard anything. They

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said they never heard nothing, but they thought it was weird.

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They found a dead deer in the couple of legs

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torn off it. One leg was like flung across the

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yard and not going or anything. That's what was strange

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about it. It was just killed. And you know, it

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wasn't taken to eat and so whatever did it, it

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wasn't a like a normal predator in the area if

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they were going to kill a deer to take it

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or eat it. It was like just still there with

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a coup legs messing. So that was strange. And like

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I said, that was about a quarter mile away from

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the where the guy recorded it, so that it from

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being watched to. And that's all from stud That's a

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pretty pretty desolate town.

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Wow.

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You know, I I've done this for a few years

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and if you hadn't mentioned it, I was going to ask.

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I was going to I was like, man, I bet

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that deer had its its legs ripped off. Unfortunately, that

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is that is a thing that you hear more often

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than not in these reports that you get from all

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over the US.

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Yes, interestingly, that actually I sent it off from friends

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with Scott Nelson. He's a crypto linguist, and he was

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saying that it's something that should definitely not be in Massachusetts.

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Whatever it is, he goes, but it's definitely a primate

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that's definitely definitely interesting, he goes. I can't say what

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it was. I didn't see it. He goes, but that's

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something I would say, it shouldn't be problem around Massachusetts.

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That was his assessment of it.

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Yeah, that's that's cool that you were able to have

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that connection with him, and uh, you know what a

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what a cool thing that he was able to give

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his thoughts on it. You were talking about going out

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into western mass earlier. So when when you your definition

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of western mass I know there's a few different Are

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you talking like, you know, the area where you've got

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like Granby and you're not to Springfield yet, or are

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you going past out to like Great Barrington and Bear

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Mountain and all that good stuff.

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October Mountain, Yeah, Granby. Granby is actually my good friend

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who started Squatsachusets. They meet up there and then head out. Yeah,

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it's October Mountain. There's a couple of towns around there

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with a lot long history of and he's actually had

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a sighting tools in Saboy State Park. Yeah, so it's

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out that way a lot. We've had some couple of

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BFI row expeditions out there where one of them there

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was a sighting six people, so and they got a

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couple of really good tracks out of their Savoy.

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Now that area is is just really interesting. I've talked

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to an individual that had a really intense sighting in

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that area.

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I've talked to.

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A Native American spiritual leader that they were doing a

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ceremony around the Mount Washington area down in the corner

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and they had some activity during their ceremony where they

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had a sighting. It's just that whole western side of

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the state. But you know, you get a little closer

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to Springfield and then you've got actually right right next

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to Westfield, you've got the Cobble Mountain.

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You've got some over there, right Yeah.

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Yeah, a lot of that area. In fact, there'll be

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a festival. It's year Carbo Mountain seven June Bigfoot Festival.

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Not to give a cheap plug, but it's funny to

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say Carbyle Mountain. Yeah, there's been a long history out

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there and inter Connecticut and to the left into New York.

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A lot of stuff on the New York side of

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that part of the state. The Kinderhook Creature, there's a

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couple of books. There's a lot of about that way.

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That's not far into New York. Vermont. We've had people

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from Vermont in the northwest corner of Mass seeing something.

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It's pretty uh, like I said, it's a lot more

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mountainous than it is on the east side, and uh,

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it's nice to get out that way and see It's

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like it's two totally different environments.

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It really is.

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Yeah, I mean you people don't People don't get it

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unless you know, you go for a ride on Route

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Too through North Adams and you go over to New York.

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Then you're going to.

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Realize how crazy it is in Western mass. It is

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a whole different world up there, and it's just wild

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driving that road.

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It is. Yeah, there's a couple of hippen turns. Yeah

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do you remember that?

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Oh dude, yeah, we just did that a few years ago.

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But oh, so are you involved with that? That festival

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at all? Down by a cobble mountain. I've heard a

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little bit about it.

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Actually, i'll be speaking. They asked me to speak. It

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should be a fun time. June seventh, I believe weekend

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that's at Russell's actually in Russell.

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Mass Okay, nice, nice, Yeah, I'll I'll get the info

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for that and make sure that the link is in

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the show notes. I want to definitely help. Is that

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a first year festival too?

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It is yeah first, and it's a Carbble Mountain Critter Festival.

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I believe it's called.

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That's awesome and listeners. If you might remember a while back,

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I had a gentleman on named Ernie and he had

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the incident with the Bigfoot that was doing a form

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of sign language. That's the same area more or less.

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So that's that's for context as well. We were talking

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about Gramby earlier. I've had some interesting reach out. So

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I had a gentleman who has some pretty wild activity

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in the Granby area going on. I've tried to get

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him on the show, but we're going We're going back

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and forth a little bit. And then I had another

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individual that had a sighting over by the Quabbin Reservoir.

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Have you ever experienced or heard anything going on in

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that area the Quabbin.

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We've investigated a few pases around that, and we had

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a woman saw a white one I want to say

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four years ago. A woman and a husband, both credible people, teachers.

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They were both school teachers, and I stood in where

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they saw it and we investigated it and they said

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it was like eight feet tall, but it was white.

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And there's been other incidents where my partner who runs

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squatsa Chusetts. He's pretty well connected in that area and

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he knows that few wardens they have sent them pictures

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in that but they don't talk about it. And then

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they kind of like warned the secrecy. They acknowledge it,

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but tongue in cheek, so they don't totally say, oh, yeah,

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they had, but they've sent them a couple of pictures

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with there was pretty interesting tracks in the dirt and

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then they wipe them out and I got not let's

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see here. And then there was one good case a

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few years ago where his friend, she was doing the

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rounds before get DAC at night. This is during the summer,

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so it was pretty you know, eight o'clock or so,

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and as she was escorting them out, she rode them

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to the gate and it was dark by then, and

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one of the people left their phone on the rock

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where they were sitting by the reservoir, so she had

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them stay there and she's like, I'm going to have

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to go there and get it. So she goes to

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get it and she's looking in the area where they

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was sitting. She sees the phone and she's getting it.

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All of a sudden, the rock comes flying into the water,

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and so she was freaked out because she knew she'd

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just escorted everybody out of here and if there's someone

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in there, so she's shining a light around, couldn't see anything,

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and then his twigs snapping and just basically high tailed

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it back to her truck and back out. So she

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kind of and she called my friend that night and

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told them all about it. That pretty She was pretty

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wound up about it too, that I you know, I

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know they're there, so she's she got into it and

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asking all about you know what we use bar with

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therm some night, so she knows they're around the club,

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and said, both sides of it. Actually, you've had a

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lot of a lot of activity. In fact, the last

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experience I had was twenty nineteen was the tree snap

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I was talking about earlier. That was on the east

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side of the club, and that was just a few

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of us hanging out doing stuff. Nothing. Pretty quiet night actually,

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and just before we were leaving, I heard a rustle.

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We will always say like it's a square wall or nothing.

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We just said like a twig snap. So I yelled hey,

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like almost like hey, and this thing just you could

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hear like the bending in it and it just snapped

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and hit the ground and that was pretty intense. That

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was pretty when you don't expect it, you know. We were,

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like I said, we were just sating out and hey,

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I think I startled whatever it was it was, but

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in my opinion, someone was watching us. We were there

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all night trying to draw out something. Nothing. But then

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we were leaving sure enough, man say thank you. That

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was thank you for the sign. That was like the

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end of it. Nothing came after that. We looked and

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looked nothing. We actually had a therm within a couple

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of minutes, like fight it up and right on it

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and there's nothing there at all. So again that just

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a mystery of you know, something was there, something did that,

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and then there's nothing. That's happened a couple of times

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over the years that something within as shot and ice

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shot and you get a thermb right on it and

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there's just nothing around. So it's either you know, hiding

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behind a tree, ducking behind something, or that's happened a

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few times.

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That is just it's one of the weirdest things because

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you think about it with a thermal, I mean, not

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to show up on thermal that really takes something because

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I mean the heat.

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If it's something, it should show up right right.

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And they have been caught on thermal that's why is

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it Like, yeah, could have taken off like the now

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you're like, what happened was something? Something did that and

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that happened to was once in New Hampshire with that

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was with Alexander Pettikov. Yeah, and same thing and a

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few guys. Man, a snap tree comes down and there's

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nothing now very bizarre.

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Extremely bizarre in case listeners are. I want to provide

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a little bit of context to the quab and real quick,

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so people need to realize how big it actually is.

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I think I read once that the length of it

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is about like eighteen twenty miles long. Like it is

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a just massive wildlife area and body of water. It's

459
00:28:53.720 --> 00:28:57.240
perfect for these guys to be around.

460
00:28:58.839 --> 00:29:02.079
Yeah, and it's it's protected too, so all around it

461
00:29:02.200 --> 00:29:07.160
on whatever town it's in, it's heavily heavily protected. Most

462
00:29:07.200 --> 00:29:11.119
places you can't get in once it's start out, absolutely

463
00:29:11.160 --> 00:29:14.400
because that's what live for the whole eastern part of

464
00:29:14.440 --> 00:29:19.680
the state. In Boston. I mean, like you can't even

465
00:29:19.759 --> 00:29:23.680
regulations when it's nice, like you can only use their boats.

466
00:29:24.599 --> 00:29:28.839
You can't. You couldn't even bring your home kayaking and

467
00:29:28.920 --> 00:29:32.200
nothing in vase of a lot of studies going out there.

468
00:29:33.200 --> 00:29:38.480
But from what I understand, fishing wise, it's great for fishing.

469
00:29:39.240 --> 00:29:43.279
I don't self, but it's loaded with fishermen once it's

470
00:29:44.559 --> 00:29:45.640
once it's open.

471
00:29:47.680 --> 00:29:51.359
So since I have you on and you're the closest

472
00:29:51.400 --> 00:29:54.200
that I well, okay, so here's here's my goal.

473
00:29:54.400 --> 00:29:55.400
I've tried for years.

474
00:29:55.440 --> 00:29:59.839
My goal is one day to talk to someone that

475
00:30:01.160 --> 00:30:07.000
has knowledge about Bigfoot in the northern Franklin County area,

476
00:30:07.039 --> 00:30:11.000
which is like Northfield or Gill or Greenfield, Warwick.

477
00:30:10.559 --> 00:30:11.400
All that good stuff.

478
00:30:11.960 --> 00:30:14.000
That's I'm kind of saying that right now in case

479
00:30:14.039 --> 00:30:17.000
listeners are out there listening to Massachusetts episode and be like,

480
00:30:17.079 --> 00:30:19.119
oh yeah I have that. Will reach out to me, guys,

481
00:30:19.160 --> 00:30:22.400
please big for Society gmail dot com. But you know,

482
00:30:22.519 --> 00:30:25.400
me saying those town names, is that jog anything in

483
00:30:25.440 --> 00:30:27.640
your memory like, oh yeah, I may have heard something

484
00:30:27.680 --> 00:30:28.480
from that area.

485
00:30:30.759 --> 00:30:35.079
Uh No, but I wouldn't doubt it just looking at

486
00:30:35.079 --> 00:30:38.680
it on the maps and you know, aerial views of it.

487
00:30:38.680 --> 00:30:42.440
It's heavily wooded, a lot of a lot of Steve

488
00:30:42.519 --> 00:30:48.640
Hills Ponds. I wouldn't doubt at all any of those towns.

489
00:30:48.680 --> 00:30:51.839
I have done a couple of hikes on Warwick, very

490
00:30:54.519 --> 00:30:57.160
very small towns too. A lot of those towns out

491
00:30:57.200 --> 00:31:01.720
there very low population, so there's not a lot of

492
00:31:02.960 --> 00:31:05.599
as it goes with things like if you were going

493
00:31:05.680 --> 00:31:10.480
away from Springfield, Well wester or Boston, like the big cities,

494
00:31:10.519 --> 00:31:14.559
once you get a half hour outside of those, it's

495
00:31:15.200 --> 00:31:19.279
very low populated towns. But I wouldn't doubt it all

496
00:31:19.319 --> 00:31:22.119
around Gil like those are heavily you said, you knowing

497
00:31:22.200 --> 00:31:22.960
from Northfield.

498
00:31:23.240 --> 00:31:25.559
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know.

499
00:31:25.640 --> 00:31:29.640
Yeah, that's like right now, very wooded. Yeah.

500
00:31:30.079 --> 00:31:32.400
I had no idea then when I was living there,

501
00:31:32.920 --> 00:31:38.839
how I was so close to the Marlborough Monkey sightings

502
00:31:39.079 --> 00:31:41.400
of southern New Hampshire. I was like, man, I used

503
00:31:41.400 --> 00:31:44.119
to drive up there all the time. I had no idea.

504
00:31:44.319 --> 00:31:46.400
I don't know if you've ever heard of that one.

505
00:31:47.720 --> 00:31:50.480
Not the stories, but the town Marlborough Now Hampshire.

506
00:31:50.559 --> 00:31:53.279
Yeah, dude, yeah, it's pretty crazy stuff. And like sightings

507
00:31:53.319 --> 00:31:58.319
on Mountain Adknock, I've had individuals reach out off record

508
00:31:58.400 --> 00:32:03.240
that they've had on the actual mountain hiking up there,

509
00:32:03.240 --> 00:32:06.720
which is very crazy to think about, because that's you know,

510
00:32:07.039 --> 00:32:10.319
it's the second most climb mountain in the world behind

511
00:32:10.400 --> 00:32:12.319
Mount Fuji from what I remember.

512
00:32:12.960 --> 00:32:16.680
But yeah, got somewhere. It's very well used.

513
00:32:17.559 --> 00:32:18.200
Absolutely.

514
00:32:18.960 --> 00:32:22.000
Thinking of that, all the different things you've heard about

515
00:32:22.000 --> 00:32:27.079
this state, is there perhaps one that you've heard where

516
00:32:27.359 --> 00:32:30.200
you were like, man, it really happened there and it

517
00:32:30.319 --> 00:32:31.480
just kind of surprised you.

518
00:32:32.359 --> 00:32:37.400
There was one, not Mass, There was one recent, but

519
00:32:37.480 --> 00:32:40.519
it was just over the board I want to say, Maine,

520
00:32:40.880 --> 00:32:44.559
and it like I want to say, it just within

521
00:32:44.599 --> 00:32:49.279
the last couple of weeks. And it's right along the

522
00:32:49.359 --> 00:32:52.759
coast actually, so that was a surprise. And some of

523
00:32:52.799 --> 00:32:58.079
the ones down in southeast mass were very very close

524
00:32:58.119 --> 00:33:01.799
to the coast, and it makes I thought about it too,

525
00:33:01.839 --> 00:33:04.759
But the West coast, they're right on the on the

526
00:33:04.839 --> 00:33:09.799
coast also, so why wouldn't they like they don't need

527
00:33:09.839 --> 00:33:13.039
the heavy, heavy mountainous because like I said, it's very

528
00:33:13.079 --> 00:33:16.960
low elevation. But there's been stuff there that was a

529
00:33:17.000 --> 00:33:20.160
surprise too, like stuff where you wouldn't expect. Now it's

530
00:33:20.160 --> 00:33:22.960
going to be a mountain, it's going to be heavily wooded,

531
00:33:24.039 --> 00:33:30.119
but you know, even like other towns, a half hour

532
00:33:30.160 --> 00:33:33.359
from Boston. These other places are they're only an hour

533
00:33:33.640 --> 00:33:37.920
less than an hour away. That sound recording, you know,

534
00:33:38.119 --> 00:33:43.000
that was they're small towns when you get down to Rochester.

535
00:33:43.079 --> 00:33:46.079
But when you think of it is you're not far

536
00:33:46.200 --> 00:33:49.319
from a big city, so you don't have to get

537
00:33:49.400 --> 00:33:54.000
fires fires. I don't know, just my opinion. They're closer

538
00:33:54.039 --> 00:33:55.680
than you think to the big cities.

539
00:33:56.200 --> 00:33:57.880
It's it's wild to think about.

540
00:33:57.960 --> 00:34:01.079
And you know, I've mentioned this and other episodes, but

541
00:34:01.880 --> 00:34:03.519
you know a lot of people are like, it's too

542
00:34:03.559 --> 00:34:05.759
close to the big it's not too close to the

543
00:34:05.759 --> 00:34:08.400
big cities, you know, and like the cities keep growing

544
00:34:09.199 --> 00:34:13.119
and so it keeps taking over habitat slowly. I don't

545
00:34:13.159 --> 00:34:15.639
think it's out of that. You know, it's not too

546
00:34:15.679 --> 00:34:18.480
crazy to say that it could be happening within like

547
00:34:18.599 --> 00:34:20.920
half an hour of these big cities for sure.

548
00:34:22.440 --> 00:34:25.599
Right And even if they're not living there, at least

549
00:34:25.639 --> 00:34:29.400
they're passing through the leaving signs that they passed through

550
00:34:29.400 --> 00:34:33.119
there on occasion, and I think that's why they stay

551
00:34:33.159 --> 00:34:37.239
on the move, so they're not they're not just staying

552
00:34:37.280 --> 00:34:39.519
in one spot. That's when I think it'll be easy

553
00:34:39.559 --> 00:34:42.960
to find them. But they'de stay for a few days,

554
00:34:43.039 --> 00:34:48.400
move on well overnight a couple overnights and leave and

555
00:34:48.559 --> 00:34:51.119
just leave little signs here and there. But when I

556
00:34:51.199 --> 00:34:54.400
first got into this, I'm like, oh, they're not in Massachusetts.

557
00:34:54.679 --> 00:34:57.559
Then until you start learning about it and reading about it,

558
00:34:57.840 --> 00:35:02.599
and then in New York, and then they're getting closer,

559
00:35:02.679 --> 00:35:06.480
and then you realize them in every state. I started

560
00:35:06.480 --> 00:35:10.239
looking up every state. Maine has a long history, New

561
00:35:10.280 --> 00:35:14.239
Hampshire for more, all in New England. Actually all the

562
00:35:14.280 --> 00:35:18.960
indigenous tribes had names for it, just like they all west.

563
00:35:19.079 --> 00:35:23.320
It's uh, it was an eye opener and not they

564
00:35:23.400 --> 00:35:29.239
think they're in Massachusetts. And my friend that started Squatstachusetts

565
00:35:29.679 --> 00:35:32.159
that's how he got into it. He had a siding

566
00:35:32.280 --> 00:35:38.000
in Savoy. That's how we ended up started investigating Savoy.

567
00:35:38.960 --> 00:35:42.719
He was a park ranger at the time and actually

568
00:35:42.760 --> 00:35:46.440
saw two a big one in a small one. So

569
00:35:46.559 --> 00:35:50.840
that was, uh, that was an eye opener. Also, he's

570
00:35:51.000 --> 00:35:54.400
uh went from you know, that's what it is with

571
00:35:54.519 --> 00:35:56.880
this thing. A lot of people go from normal leaders,

572
00:35:58.159 --> 00:36:03.719
you know, hardcore skeptics to till something, till you see something,

573
00:36:04.159 --> 00:36:05.559
someone you knows sees something.

574
00:36:06.920 --> 00:36:09.039
The main report are you referring to the one that

575
00:36:09.159 --> 00:36:11.920
was just released by the bfr O with the footprints

576
00:36:11.920 --> 00:36:12.239
on it.

577
00:36:15.320 --> 00:36:18.880
The main one. Yeah, yes, yeah, that was I want

578
00:36:18.920 --> 00:36:20.599
to say last week or two weeks ago.

579
00:36:20.719 --> 00:36:22.199
Yeah, very very recent.

580
00:36:22.280 --> 00:36:26.280
That was one of my buddies out here in Iowa, Ontario, Richardson,

581
00:36:26.400 --> 00:36:28.519
she did the work on that, and that was I

582
00:36:28.559 --> 00:36:30.159
was surprised when I read that one.

583
00:36:30.239 --> 00:36:31.800
It was it was wild.

584
00:36:32.920 --> 00:36:36.880
Yeah, because I think it was even in the post,

585
00:36:36.920 --> 00:36:40.840
and it's it's only half hour forty minutes from Boston.

586
00:36:42.159 --> 00:36:45.280
That's not far and that's not far from the coast.

587
00:36:46.039 --> 00:36:51.360
So yeah, it just adds to the fact that you

588
00:36:51.519 --> 00:36:53.679
really don't need to be far away and up in

589
00:36:53.719 --> 00:36:57.960
the mountains and out in the wilderness. That's pretty common area.

590
00:37:00.519 --> 00:37:03.559
Dave, I've got just a few more questions where I

591
00:37:03.639 --> 00:37:06.079
just want to say thank you for you spending some

592
00:37:06.159 --> 00:37:09.119
of your time with us this afternoon. But you know,

593
00:37:10.320 --> 00:37:14.000
since you've you've been able to see so many reports

594
00:37:14.039 --> 00:37:17.519
from Massachusetts over the years, have you noticed that there

595
00:37:17.559 --> 00:37:22.599
seems to be a leaning towards what the witness saw

596
00:37:22.920 --> 00:37:25.840
looked more humanoid or more ape like.

597
00:37:31.000 --> 00:37:34.360
I think mostly man look more like a man a person.

598
00:37:34.400 --> 00:37:38.239
I've had a few people tell me that I did

599
00:37:38.239 --> 00:37:43.840
a good case on the BFI road database and database

600
00:37:43.920 --> 00:37:47.199
and handsome mass and he said, just look like a

601
00:37:47.239 --> 00:37:53.079
big man running down the hill onto the road. Never

602
00:37:53.159 --> 00:37:55.760
really had anyone tell me a monkey or rape or

603
00:37:58.239 --> 00:38:03.639
just a big, big hearing oh man. One one person

604
00:38:03.679 --> 00:38:05.880
until he looked like a man in a gilly suit,

605
00:38:06.000 --> 00:38:09.400
like a hunted coming on the woods. Well, no, no

606
00:38:09.519 --> 00:38:10.599
monkeys are rage.

607
00:38:12.239 --> 00:38:15.480
That's that's extremely interesting. That's that kind of lines up

608
00:38:15.480 --> 00:38:18.039
with what I've gotten as well. I would say the

609
00:38:18.079 --> 00:38:22.880
one offshoot of that is I had one individual it

610
00:38:23.000 --> 00:38:28.280
was south Kowabbin as he was driving across and what

611
00:38:28.440 --> 00:38:32.360
he saw looked like a big orangutan, which I thought

612
00:38:32.400 --> 00:38:35.960
was really unique for for that sake, because I think

613
00:38:36.000 --> 00:38:38.960
most of the people I've heard from are you know

614
00:38:39.480 --> 00:38:43.519
that the big kind of human or big man you

615
00:38:43.559 --> 00:38:44.639
know covered.

616
00:38:44.280 --> 00:38:50.119
And maybe because of the color and the orangutan. Yeah, yeah, honest,

617
00:38:51.119 --> 00:38:52.280
was it that the color.

618
00:38:53.920 --> 00:38:55.000
Exactly? Yeah?

619
00:38:55.159 --> 00:38:59.159
Yep, that that is Uh that probably would explain it.

620
00:38:59.519 --> 00:39:03.679
Uh as well. You know, the last thing.

621
00:39:03.719 --> 00:39:07.920
That I will ask you, Dave, is just just curious

622
00:39:07.960 --> 00:39:12.360
if if someone was gonna go out and try to

623
00:39:12.400 --> 00:39:16.400
maybe check out an area to try to have some

624
00:39:16.559 --> 00:39:19.320
sort of big foot interaction. Do you have any advice

625
00:39:19.400 --> 00:39:22.519
as what might be the best way for them to

626
00:39:22.599 --> 00:39:22.880
do that?

627
00:39:25.239 --> 00:39:27.679
Well, my do you want it? In the last couple

628
00:39:27.719 --> 00:39:30.960
of years has changed as far as go out and

629
00:39:31.039 --> 00:39:33.840
listen and just be quiet, become part of the woods.

630
00:39:35.239 --> 00:39:38.760
Earlier on we used to, you know, get out a

631
00:39:38.800 --> 00:39:41.400
lot of gear and all this and that. We really

632
00:39:41.440 --> 00:39:45.360
don't take a lot out now and now we listen,

633
00:39:45.360 --> 00:39:48.440
we get out of the cap, everyone's like slamming the

634
00:39:48.519 --> 00:39:51.800
doors and putting that stuff on him talking a lot

635
00:39:51.840 --> 00:39:55.599
of times absolutely heard stuff. So there's been a couple

636
00:39:55.639 --> 00:39:57.679
of times last year we get out of the car

637
00:39:57.880 --> 00:40:01.440
nice and quiet, and you might that one knock and

638
00:40:02.519 --> 00:40:05.280
it's just my opinion that it's a heads up to

639
00:40:06.840 --> 00:40:09.360
a lot of people think they lead someone at the end.

640
00:40:09.360 --> 00:40:14.039
Three points to these recreation areas where it's just a

641
00:40:14.119 --> 00:40:19.599
one knock, almost like the humans are here, And yeah,

642
00:40:19.639 --> 00:40:22.960
I don't not as not as much and howl and

643
00:40:23.119 --> 00:40:27.159
banging on trees and trying to trap them or sneak

644
00:40:27.239 --> 00:40:29.079
up on them, because I don't think that's ever going

645
00:40:29.159 --> 00:40:31.599
to happen. They know you're there when you get there.

646
00:40:33.000 --> 00:40:38.719
They're highly intelligent beyond like I said, they're never gonna

647
00:40:39.320 --> 00:40:41.800
sneak up on one. I think they'd be better pictures

648
00:40:41.880 --> 00:40:45.079
or a better film if they were there, you know,

649
00:40:45.239 --> 00:40:48.239
catch them off God. And I think to a lot

650
00:40:48.280 --> 00:40:52.199
of the sightings of this is just my opinion also,

651
00:40:52.360 --> 00:40:55.360
but I think a lot of them are intentional that

652
00:40:56.000 --> 00:40:59.719
it's not an accident. You know, they want to be seen.

653
00:40:59.760 --> 00:41:05.079
They say, if you see one, you're almost blessed or

654
00:41:05.119 --> 00:41:10.039
you're very fortunate. But I would just say, like, get

655
00:41:10.079 --> 00:41:14.639
out nice and quiet for yourself, don't go rapping on trees.

656
00:41:14.960 --> 00:41:17.920
You know, maybe a return mark if you did hear one,

657
00:41:17.960 --> 00:41:21.159
but I would I don't initiate that stuff now. I

658
00:41:21.360 --> 00:41:24.840
just go out and listen and try to become part

659
00:41:24.880 --> 00:41:28.679
of the woods. And uh because anywhere anything else out

660
00:41:28.719 --> 00:41:32.039
there is going to know you're around animals. Stay here

661
00:41:32.079 --> 00:41:35.599
from a mile away, bear is gonna smile from a

662
00:41:35.679 --> 00:41:39.400
mile away. So I think your best betters, go out

663
00:41:39.440 --> 00:41:44.199
and be yourself, keep your eyes open, but go you go,

664
00:41:44.400 --> 00:41:52.159
you got And I don't think they have bad intent either.

665
00:41:52.199 --> 00:41:55.360
I think they're just curious and I want to make

666
00:41:55.679 --> 00:41:58.920
check over your up to make sure you're not bad

667
00:41:59.000 --> 00:42:02.800
for that for them just opinions.

668
00:42:03.280 --> 00:42:04.559
I think that's great advice.

669
00:42:04.599 --> 00:42:08.719
Though I'm pretty close to to how you're you're saying

670
00:42:08.760 --> 00:42:11.360
it as well. You know, it's just it's kind of

671
00:42:12.039 --> 00:42:14.360
just kind of be out there. But you know, Dave,

672
00:42:14.519 --> 00:42:18.159
it has been is a great conversation with you. Thank

673
00:42:18.199 --> 00:42:22.119
you for sharing your your years of knowledge about bigfoot

674
00:42:22.239 --> 00:42:27.119
in the state of Massachusetts. Is there any anything here

675
00:42:27.199 --> 00:42:30.559
at the end that if people wanted to contact you

676
00:42:30.760 --> 00:42:36.280
about you know, uh, Squatchachusetts or Massachusetts bigfoot? Is is

677
00:42:36.280 --> 00:42:38.239
there a way that's best for them to do that?

678
00:42:39.559 --> 00:42:43.800
I think just on Facebook either front me or you

679
00:42:43.800 --> 00:42:49.440
can squatcha Chusetts on Facebook. We're out there, we take

680
00:42:49.519 --> 00:42:55.039
people out. Anyone can come out. But that's really it.

681
00:42:55.119 --> 00:42:57.440
I don't have a website, I don't have any of that.

682
00:42:58.280 --> 00:43:02.960
Pretty low key, just do my own thing now, but

683
00:43:03.079 --> 00:43:05.239
I do stuff with other people. We go out, we

684
00:43:05.360 --> 00:43:11.800
do doing a few conferences coming up this year, the

685
00:43:11.920 --> 00:43:16.239
Paste has been asked to speak. If you if you

686
00:43:16.239 --> 00:43:22.800
can understand the Boston dialect.

687
00:43:21.400 --> 00:43:25.320
I think I think it will be good. It's awesome.

688
00:43:26.920 --> 00:43:30.280
So you'll be at Cabble Mountain and then what other

689
00:43:31.000 --> 00:43:32.039
festivals or conferences.

690
00:43:32.079 --> 00:43:32.800
Are you doing.

691
00:43:33.280 --> 00:43:39.079
Carbo Mountains June seventh? June twenty one and twenty two,

692
00:43:39.280 --> 00:43:42.679
it'll be the Tramming Fair Farm in Candy and New Hampshire.

693
00:43:44.320 --> 00:43:48.960
July twenty sixth I'll be doing the Paranormal Tooth Seekers

694
00:43:49.119 --> 00:43:55.360
ex BO that's a national New Hampshire and September sixth

695
00:43:55.440 --> 00:43:59.679
and seventh the Greater in New England UFO conference that's

696
00:44:00.039 --> 00:44:03.639
on lemmonst mask Well.

697
00:44:03.719 --> 00:44:04.199
Very nice.

698
00:44:04.239 --> 00:44:06.760
So there's a few ways you can meet Dave if

699
00:44:06.840 --> 00:44:09.280
you'd like to this coming year, so check those out.

700
00:44:09.320 --> 00:44:12.440
But Dave mccallough, thanks so much for coming on the

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show today.

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It's been a pleasure.

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Thank you, Thank you for having me. It was great.

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It's a great chat with you and I really appreciate

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having me on.

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Just want to take a few minutes to say thank

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you to you all my listeners for listening to the podcast.

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Please take a minute to help out the show by

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you're subscribed, share the show with a friend. Really, it's

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all about sharing the show wherever you can. If you've

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had a Bigfoot encounter related to the following or know

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someone who has, please reach out to me at big

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physis idagmail dot com or pass on my email. Here's

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a list the Subtle Lake area of Oregon, Rainbow, Oregon,

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McKinsey Bridge area, Sweet Home, pretty much that entire area,

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the north part.

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If you get what I mean, I'll see you back

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next time. Listeners.

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Sasat Summerfest this year July eleventh through the twelfth. It's

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going to be fantastic July eleventh through twelfth in Greenwaters

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Park and Oakridge, Oregon. And listeners, if you're going to go,

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you can get two day ticket for the cost of

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one if you use the code b f S like

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Bigfoot Society, but BFS, I'll get you some off your cost.

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Priscilla was nice enough to provide that for my listeners.

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So there you go.

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I look forward to seeing you there, So make sure

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you head over to www. Dot Sasquatch Summerfest dot com

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and pick up your tickets today.