June 12, 2025

Wildlife Biologist Comes Forward in Pennsylvania!

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Season 1

Matt Carter, a former wildlife biologist from Southwest Pennsylvania, shares his first-ever public account of strange and unnerving encounters on his family's secluded 20-acre property. Matt recounts witnessing unexplained events including UAP sightings, eerie vocalizations, and an intense encounter with an unseen entity. From potential Sasquatch interactions marked by wood knocks and unidentifiable bird calls to bizarre howls and unsettling smells, Matt's experiences challenge his scientific training. He plans to use advanced recording equipment to capture proof and seeks collaboration with other researchers to further investigate mysterious activities in the area. An episode packed with fascinating details and spine-chilling moments.

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Forward slash the Big for Society and now let's get

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on with the show. All right, Big for Society. I've

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got the privilege of talking to Matt Carter today from

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southwest Pennsylvania. He's a former wildlife biologist that's had some

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very interesting things happen over the years that he's on

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the show today to share and Matt, welcome to the program.

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How's it going.

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It's going pretty good. Thank you for having me.

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Absolutely yeah.

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I mean, I'm just really excited to finally like share.

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This is the first time I've talked publicly about this.

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I know we have a lot of ground to cover.

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You've sent me a lot of really interesting things through

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email so far. So Matt, I'm going to go ahead

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and give things right over to you. You're welcome to

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take us back when this first started happening. Any context

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we need to know, and I feel free to go ahead.

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Man, Okay, Well, my name's Matt Carter. I got into

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wildlife biology around twenty thirteen. I was going to Bethany College,

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which is like the northern panti Ino West Virginia, you know,

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the like section between Ohio and PA. And that was

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kind of like the first like weird thing I've I

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ever like experienced. We found what now I know it's

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tree structures, and I found it weird because they tried

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to say that was from the Boy Scouts, who did

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have a camp in that area. What the Boy Scouts

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did was they took like iron and they made essentially

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like aphrings out of it, almost like tepee style, I guess,

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were like TP style that way. All you had to

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do was just carrying in a piece of cannabis, you know,

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strap it down and you have a ten. So I

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didn't understand why they would be making these like rudimentary

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things that weren't even close to that camp. I'm like,

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I guess there's Merit Badger's stuff they could do, but

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that was that's really like one of the only like

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weird things before before all this. So I just wanted

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to throw that out there because I'm sure people around

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that area have probably seen and heard crazy stuff because

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if there's like nothing there for so fast forward to now,

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I'm staying with my mom. Didn't care of her because

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she's got a lot of health problems, and I had

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transferred to well now it's Penn West, but it's cow

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it was cal You at the time for their wildlife program.

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And uh so while I was going like, while I

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was going there, I've been staying here and so everything

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started around twenty twenty. Like I said, nothing really weird

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I've experienced here until then, But it was around like

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late May early June. The first weird thing like this

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is I saw a UAP out here. It was like

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this giant ball light that came up. It was about

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the size of the pickup truck. And I immediately contacted

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the only person I knew was Stan Gordon, you know,

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and told him, like what had happened, and then that

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was weird, and then it's kind of rolled into It

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was around early June, so it wasn't that much longer

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after this happened. In March that we were out sitting

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at our picnic table does our property. It's kind of

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like a huge field. It's like a twenty acre field.

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There's a massive amount of woods around us, and there's

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a pond like way back. It's it's very like kind

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of secluded up here. So there's an apple tree that's

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kind of to the right of our house with a

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picnic table. We were sitting there and uh, you know,

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everything was normal, and then suddenly I heard I noticed

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that dogs were acting really weird. They kept like looking

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to our left towards the woodline, and I'm like, you

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know what, what the heck, Like this is really weird.

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All three dogs they're like alerning to something. So I

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stood up, you know, being a wildlife guy, I figured, well,

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maybe it's coyotes. And then I concerned was the coyotes

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might try to lure our dogs away, and you know,

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nothing good is gonna come from that. So I stood

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up and I walked over and I was staying there

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just looking and then all of a sudden, I hear,

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like plain as day, a wood knock and I was like, oh,

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that's weird. And my mom said, what I said, you

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didn't hear that. I said, that sounded like somebody like

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took it like a stick or you know, fall about

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something and just smack the tree. And she said, are

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you kidding? I said, Mom, I would never joke about

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wildlife stuff. And she said, well, what would do that?

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What kind of animal? I said, well, you would need

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hands to actually pick something up and smack something like that.

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And then we heard a second one and she heard

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it this time, and now the dogs moved from where

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they were to between me and the and like you know,

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where you can't see from the campfire. And then we

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heard another one answer it back further up in the woods.

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That was when I'm like, okay, time to take the

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dogs in. And it was very hard to get them

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inside that night, like they really did not want to leave,

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like where they were, like they were really freaked out

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even walk ever towards that part of the property because

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we kind of had to walk that direction to get

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back to the house. So that was like the first

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like real weird thing out here wildlife wise, and I'm like, Okay,

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something's in that woods making noises that I don't know

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what it is. And that's a problem because I've been

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doing this, you know, for a better part of a

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decade at that point, and I've spent thousands of hours,

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like I worked on like the breeding bird atlasts from

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Western Virginia. I was doing one hundred hours a week

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in the woods and all these other projects, so I'm

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very aware of what's in this whole area. So that

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was kind of it until that fall, so like a

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few months later, so that was by in June, so

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around September October, it was like four in the morning

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because I'm a bit of a night out, so I

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was just sitting here on my computer and then I

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started to hear what sounded like a hyena and I

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know it's not a coyote because I've since found a

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video from the US Fish and Wildlife Service which I

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can send you to link to that they're actually talking

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about these vocalizations that they caught, and they're talking about

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sasquatch and like how they can't figure out, like is

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that what this is because none of them knew what

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these exact sounds I heard were And what was weird

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about it was I went over to the window and

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I was just listening, and as it kind of like

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it got closer, I wasn't able to move. It was

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like this wave of fear hit me. And it's the

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scaredness I've ever been. And it's crazy because I was

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on the second story of my house inside, but I

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couldn't almost physically move until eventually it got to the

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point where I was almost crying. I was so scared,

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And then the noise just went away and then I

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could start to move, which makes me wonder if that

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was some form of infra sound that hit me, because

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it was very weird that I couldn't move. So after that, though,

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is really when things started to pick up. So now

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we start getting like odd bird calls at night. So

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what I mean is throw the owls calling, but they're

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not owls. The voice is too deep and the cadence

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and the rhythm is wrong. So typically, like you know,

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like the great horn, now you'll get like one long

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or one short, and then a couple more after that.

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This isn't even doing the right amount of notes, let

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alone the voices too deep to be an owl, and

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at times they'll go to an alternate like real deep

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at the end, so that's clearly not an owl doing

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that sound. And we'll get like other weird animal calls

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like geese and other things coming from the woods, and

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like there's no there's not going to be a random

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goose living up in the woods. And this kind of

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goes on until like early June of twenty twenty four.

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So I've been trying to get back into shape just

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because I'm trying to be healthier. And our property, like

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I said, it's a twenty acre. It's mainly a like

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an open field, and in the back left corner of

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that field, there's like a little stand of woods before

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you hit the actual woods, like there's a little like

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stretch of like clearing between it. So it kind of

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goes It has a grade too, like it kind of

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goes up into that corner, but then as you go

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up to the right hand back corner, it's really steep.

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So it's a nice workout, like you get this gradual

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grade and then you come back down on like the

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right side and you just do a circle and I

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think altogether it's like a quarter mile or a half

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a mile it gets a tiso lock. So what happened

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was I was walking back towards that corner, towards where

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that pond is, and I noticed everything went dead silent,

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and I mean dead silent. No birds, no bugs, nothing,

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And that's really weird for that to be happening in

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like early summer, late spring. You know when everything should

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be going crazy or something should be doing an alarm call,

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you know, some kind of you know, there's a whole

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bunch of different species like blue jays, you know, there's

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a tough to tip myself and something should be alarming

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to me coming back there. But nothing, So I thought

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that was weird to go like quieter and quieter the

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closer I got through that pond. So I just sat

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there at the pond for a second. I'm like, this

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is it just fell off? And then that's when I

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heard it sounded like I was convinced it was a person,

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but everything was so grown in at that time, I

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couldn't see, you know, what was walking around, but it

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was clearly two legs because it sounded just like a

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huge person walking And it kind of freaked me out

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because nobody should be back there. All of our dogs

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are like essentially like guard dogs. So everyone knows, just

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don't come up here. I mean we've got guns. I

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mean Southwest Pa. So no one should be back there

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messing around. And it started to bother me because I

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said hello and there was no answer. So then I'm like, Okay,

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what do I do now, because I'm convinced this is

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a person, And I'm like, they're not answering. And you know,

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normally if there's someone out in the woods with you

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and they're not answering back, they don't have good intentions.

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So I said, just so you know, I can hear you,

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I said, I can't see you, but I can tell

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like the general area where you're at. I said, Look,

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I live in that house over there, I said, So

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I'm not far. Someone will come looking for me, I said.

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And the second thing is, I'm not back here like

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to cause problems. I said, I'm just going for a

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nature walk and I'm going to walk up to the

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other to the opposite corner. Back here, there's a game

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cam that a family friend has. I'm gonna put the

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s ME card back in it that I got yesterday.

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Because that was what was weird, was the day before

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everything was fine. When I was back there, so it's

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still nothing, no one, no one's saying anything. There was

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no smells though, so I didn't smell anything this time,

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but there was something like you could tell it was

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over there because I could hear it moving around. So

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I said, okay, I'm going to walk up here now.

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Still you know, no, nothing's talking back to me. So

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I start to walk up like the woodline, and I

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noticed though, even though nobody's talking, it's paralleling me. So

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I'm like, okay, I don't like this because now not

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only is it somebody you know in my mind at

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this time not talking, but they're paralleling me, so it's

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like they're stalking me. So I keep walking up and

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as I get closer to where there's like this little

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watering hole that they actually dug with a with a

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I think like a bacco or something, and they put

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the game camera up there, you know, to see like

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what would come up there. So the closer I get

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to it now I start to hear it's like a

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you know, almost like something smacking its chest, not like

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a rough grouse, because that's a very anyone that's hurt,

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does they know exactly what that sounds like this actually

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sounds like what I was just doing, Like that like

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something's smacking the chest and its huge, and then the

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like the bush starts shaking, and that's when I start

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to hear you know, almost like the Sierra sounds, but

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without like words to it. So all this together is

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really confusing me because I'm like, what, you know, what

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is I don't even know what's happening right now, because

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as a wildlife biologist, I'm trying to rationalize this because

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you know, it's like, well, that could be you know,

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in my mind, I'm still thinking that could be rough

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to grouse. But then what's shape? What's gonna shake the

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you know, that's a huge bush that it's shaking, And

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I'm like, I don't know what's going on now. And

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I was terrified because I'm like, there's something here that's enormous,

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and you know, I did the dumbest thing I've probably

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ever done in my life. Jeremiah and anyone listening, dear God,

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don't ever do this. You know. I'm like, haha, you know, oh,

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you know, maybe it's sasquatch. Well that was dumb to

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like to even like take this as like not anything

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serious or that I was in a bad situation. So

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what did I do? I just laughed because this is

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so stupid, Like even if you don't know what the

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animal is, you should never like push to see. Oh

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am I gonna you know, instigate it to do something

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doing something. I barred my teeth like a chimp wood

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and then I did the back to it with, you know,

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smacking my chest. That's what that noise is. That was

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the biggest mistake I've ever made. Whatever that was barreled

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through there then, and it almost I almost got the

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way I could see it, and I was like, nope.

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I started to back up. Then I kept my eyes

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facing towards the woodline and I just walked slowly back

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and I just kept watching because I'm like, I'm convinced

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at this point I'm gonna die. Whatever that was was

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crashing through there, and I could tell now this is

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no joke, Like things are real serious, real quick. And

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I just felt like, whatever's here, if it wants to

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I'm dead. There's nothing I'm gonna do because I know

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people say they've seen bear, but none of this fits

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a bear, like the smiling, the shaking, the thing. I

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don't I've heard bare do weird noises, and none of

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it like this. So I walk about fifty yards away,

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like I mean, I'm walking backwards now as I'm doing this,

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back towards my house. It's bad and this is by

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now I'm I'm kind of going back towards There's a

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map I'm gonna send Jeremiah for people on YouTube, so

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it's kind of back towards the right hand corner of

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the like the I guess if you're looking at the map,

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it'll be towards the back left hand corner.

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Big for Society will be right back after these messages.

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And I'm kind of walking up the hill and backwards

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so that I can come back down because right now

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the whole things I grow into it, hey, because a

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friend comes and cuts it. So I need to like

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follow the path that's cut around the edge so that

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I can get back down to the house. So I

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keep walking backwards, and eventually, once I get about one

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hundred yards away from the woods, that's when I spin

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and I start looking down the hill. But I keep

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looking back over my shoulder because I'm convinced something's gonna

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run out of those woods and it's gonna grab me.

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And by the time I got back to the house,

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which I don't even know like how long this whole

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thing took, I was so shaken. By the time I

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got back down to the house. My mom was like,

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I had a feeling something was wrong because you've been

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gone a real long time. I was white, I was shaking,

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and I'm like, neither one of you are gonna believe

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what just happened, and that, you know. That's when I

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told him what had happened, and I'm like, but I

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don't understand how anything could hide like that out here.

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And that's when my mom's boyfriend was like, oh, well,

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if your face, like if you're standing at the back

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of our house, it'd be like to your far left,

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back in those woods. He said, there's a series of

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caves and they're big enough you could probably put like

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a small, like tiny house in and live there. So

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that's something I'm gonna I want to look into getting

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back there, obviously with multiple people and possibly weapons for protection,

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and see like what's back at those caves. But that

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was like the main thing that's happened, and since then

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things have be like been really like escalating. So when

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I say escalating, it's like now then now the vocalizations

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are getting more more prominent, like they're they're getting more common,

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and you're starting to smell things now when you're outside,

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like there'll be times it's like you could hear something

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walking and it's like a combination of like I guess

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the best way to explain it is wet dog, like

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something dead and I don't know what. It's the worst

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smell I've ever had in my life. And the dogs

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will get freaked out at times like this too, because

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I put them out, like we have them on a routine,

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so I'll put them out at like six, eight and

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ten and then that's it for the night. So normally

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this all starts around ten o'clock and then it'll go on.

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Like I said, those vocalizations I heard really four in

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the morning. So that's been going on. And then this

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last fall, like what had happened was we get a

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lot of UAP stuff out here, Like I've been in

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contact with like Stan Gordon, Tom King, and there's like

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a bunch of other people I've talked to, given them

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am and I've set you the link to the like

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to my online stuff that's like it's not public if

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anyone's wondering, because it shows like where I live and everything.

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But what's been happening now is like, since this is

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all kind of exploded, anytime I go out back to

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like to try to record anything, because it's always the

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same area, like when I got chased out, we see

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ords and lights and everything else. It's really really weird

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that this is all seemingly connected. You'll give vocalizations now

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and it it'll sound like something's over in those woods getting

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tasted off that you're back there, and it's kind of like,

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run me out a couple of times, like I'll hear it.

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It's that weird al sound again, but early multiples, and

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sometimes it's not just an l like what I had

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caught on Christmas this year was there's a video. Well,

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first I put the dogs out and they were acting

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weird and we were hearing stuff, and then I was like, no,

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I'm not dealing with this. So what happened was I

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went and I got the I forgot a flashlight. It's

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like a law enforcement style when it's like a million

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candles or something crazy. And I come back out and

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as you come up our driveway, it was like it

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used to be a house. It's like a one room

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house basically, but it's a woodshot. Now you hear something

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vocalized down there, and then immediately in front of me

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it sounds like a red tailed hawk, and then like

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over to my right a blue jay. So it's like one, two, three,

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like all together like boom boom boom. They all vocalized,

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and I'm like those birds would never at like ten

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o'clock at night us a blue Jane whatever the first

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one was, which I'm kind of saying like four letter

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words because by this time, I'm like super shaken up.

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And then something's walking behind me. You could hear it.

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It did pick up on the recorder on my phone

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back behind me, back by the garage, and that's when

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I'm like, okay, time to go back in. I mean, yeah,

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that scared me enough that I just went back inside

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and I didn't go back out. It was around this

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was right after this that would have been this fall.

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Another thing that happened this fall, because it's kind of

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like been slowly building, like vocalizations and then something like

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that'll happen. Now the one time I did see something,

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and this is the only time I've seen something this

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was around I want to say it was around October.

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It was this fall, but I'm not sure on the date.

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It was around eight in the morning. I came to

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now because I'm staying up in the attic, which it's

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a finished attic. As soon as you come down the stairs,

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like immediately in front of it is a window. So

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normally when I come down, I just book out to see,

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you know, is there's anything out there like this normal stuff.

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What I saw on the tree line, which is about

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one hundred and fifty yards or so, so I remember

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correctly looking at Google Maps from our house, so it's

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a decent ways bad there. It almost looked like it

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was a bush. But then I'm like, that's that's huge.

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And then the thing that confuse me was that's never

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been there before, so I'm like, why is there? It

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was like a golden or really dark, almost like fall

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leaves color. The best color that I could describe it as.

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It's somewhere like fall leaves in that alleged video of

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the sasquatch that someone took in Colorado from the train

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and had that weird like brown, you know, like dead

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foliage too. It was somewhere between those two colors. So

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I'm looking at it all confused because I'm like, where

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did that come from? Like there's not just going to

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be a bush that appears. So I grabbed the binoculars

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and I started looking at it, and I'm like, that

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almost looks like it's a body and it comes up

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from where a head would be, but I don't see

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a face. And then I got to think, and I'm like, well,

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wait a minute. One of our friends just came out

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and put a tree stand up like right over in

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that area. And he has no idea because I don't

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you know, I'm not really talking to family friends about

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this because you know, I'm a lot of them probably

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think that I'm crazy. But he put that tree stand

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up right back by that point where the initial like

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interaction with me and whatever started taking place, And I'm

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wondering if it wasn't over in that area, just checking

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it out, like you know, like, what the heck, why

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are you back here? Like who's doing this stuff? Putting

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stuff up? Now? So I saw it, and I thought

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about waking my mom up because like somebody else needs

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to see this, Like it didn't even dawn on me

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to get a picture or anything, which that's honestly, my

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biggest regret is not getting anything on film this time.

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So I decided, wake up a minute, make sure you're

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seeing what you're seeing, because you know, maybe it is,

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you know, you're just hired. So I go and do

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my normal like wake up routine, you know, coffee, the

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whole thing. I come back and I look again and

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it's gone, and I'm like, well, that doesn't make sense

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because if it was some kind of a big bush

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or tree or something, it's not just you know, not

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be there now. But that's the only time I've had

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like an absolute like I saw something that shouldn't be there,

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and it's like, I don't know, a lot of the

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stuff that goes on out here is vocalizations, and some

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of them are really weird. I've got my notes up

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because I like keep meticulous notes on all this stuff.

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So like back in October, it says the twenty ninth

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we had we had weird stuff going on, and it

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says the neighbors dogs were freaking out. And then I

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know a couple of days after that, Yeah, on the

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twenty around the twenty eighth, it sounded like a huge crow,

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like it was super deep in sound, so picked your crow,

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but then like take it down like six decibels. Started

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the call like behind same area now behind my neighbor's house.

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It's like down our driveway. And then it sounded like

446
00:24:34.319 --> 00:24:37.359
I'm assuming it was something on two feet because a

447
00:24:37.440 --> 00:24:40.640
crow's not that deep. It sounds like it's like it

448
00:24:40.720 --> 00:24:45.119
keeps like vocalizing. It goes across the road and then

449
00:24:45.200 --> 00:24:48.079
the neighbors dogs start going insane. It's like down the

450
00:24:48.119 --> 00:24:50.880
hill from us. So whatever it was across the road

451
00:24:50.920 --> 00:24:55.160
and cut back through like their yard. And at the

452
00:24:55.200 --> 00:24:57.799
same time, there's a farm across the road from us.

453
00:24:58.640 --> 00:25:01.319
It sounded like something was It sounds like a cow,

454
00:25:01.480 --> 00:25:04.839
but it was super deep and it did this. It

455
00:25:04.880 --> 00:25:07.119
was so weird. It was like move, you know, like

456
00:25:07.160 --> 00:25:11.960
a normal move, but then it move right after the

457
00:25:12.039 --> 00:25:15.319
crow started across the road, so it was like one

458
00:25:15.480 --> 00:25:18.519
it was like boom boom, like the crow, and then

459
00:25:18.519 --> 00:25:22.359
whatever that cow thing was answered it back and that

460
00:25:22.480 --> 00:25:25.559
freaks my dogs out too, which I always take note

461
00:25:25.599 --> 00:25:27.720
of how the animals act because I'm like, maybe it's

462
00:25:27.759 --> 00:25:30.240
just me, you know, thinking I'm hearing something, But when

463
00:25:30.279 --> 00:25:33.960
your animals like alert, you know, or they start getting quiet,

464
00:25:34.039 --> 00:25:36.039
or acting weird. That's when you should probably start paying

465
00:25:36.079 --> 00:25:39.559
attention to what you're experiencing because there is something to

466
00:25:39.720 --> 00:25:42.440
that then, because animals will know if there's a predator

467
00:25:42.519 --> 00:25:46.599
or something weird around. And that's kind of been like

468
00:25:46.599 --> 00:25:49.480
the theme of this thing. God, I've had my camera

469
00:25:49.559 --> 00:25:51.720
with me because I've had my phone and I've had

470
00:25:51.759 --> 00:25:53.839
the dogs, so I can record it and we can

471
00:25:53.880 --> 00:25:56.640
see the dogs are acting weird for a lot of

472
00:25:56.680 --> 00:26:02.680
this stuff. That was actually the third of December is

473
00:26:02.720 --> 00:26:06.599
when we got the vocalization of like the goose up

474
00:26:06.640 --> 00:26:10.599
in the woods, and like that would that? Why would

475
00:26:10.599 --> 00:26:13.720
there be one goose? Just one up in the woods

476
00:26:14.559 --> 00:26:17.359
And it doesn't start calling until I walk over towards

477
00:26:17.359 --> 00:26:19.720
that fence line. It's ten o'clock at night, Like that

478
00:26:19.799 --> 00:26:24.079
doesn't make sense. I mean, if it was back up

479
00:26:24.279 --> 00:26:26.720
like way in the woods at that pond, maybe, but

480
00:26:26.839 --> 00:26:29.640
not in the woods itself, Like that's a field in

481
00:26:29.680 --> 00:26:33.039
the woods. I don't know. There's so much out here

482
00:26:33.119 --> 00:26:36.119
like this that just doesn't make sense. And I've never

483
00:26:37.400 --> 00:26:41.000
I've never had any location like this, and it's like

484
00:26:41.079 --> 00:26:47.079
I don't know what's going on because I don't I

485
00:26:47.119 --> 00:26:48.839
don't know. I don't know how to quantify all this

486
00:26:48.880 --> 00:26:52.119
stuff because it just doesn't make sense because you know,

487
00:26:52.160 --> 00:26:55.319
you try to rationalize it as you know, it's coyotes

488
00:26:55.400 --> 00:26:57.079
or it's this, or it's that. But then it's like

489
00:26:57.119 --> 00:27:00.880
if you actually know anything about like you're like your

490
00:27:00.880 --> 00:27:03.799
animals and stuff, you quickly realize, well, it's not this

491
00:27:04.000 --> 00:27:07.279
because the sounds are off or the time of days off,

492
00:27:07.839 --> 00:27:11.039
or like we don't have that animal. We've never seen

493
00:27:11.079 --> 00:27:14.759
that here. You know, like there's just so many weird

494
00:27:14.839 --> 00:27:21.000
things that go that go on here. And uh, one

495
00:27:21.000 --> 00:27:23.480
of the things that I decided to do after the

496
00:27:23.559 --> 00:27:27.680
Christmas situation where it was right before Christmas, we have

497
00:27:27.839 --> 00:27:30.000
a spot on our property where we've dune like our

498
00:27:30.000 --> 00:27:32.559
food scraps for whatever to eat. It's not even close

499
00:27:32.599 --> 00:27:36.319
to the house, but there's like a huge drop off.

500
00:27:37.279 --> 00:27:41.039
So what I decided to do was there apples that

501
00:27:41.079 --> 00:27:43.640
I needed to throw out, and I decided, well, instead

502
00:27:43.640 --> 00:27:45.160
of just throwing them on the ground, while I put

503
00:27:45.160 --> 00:27:46.839
them on this pile of wood that we have that's

504
00:27:46.880 --> 00:27:49.759
cut here, and where I put it, you have to

505
00:27:49.839 --> 00:27:52.440
like you would have to reach up from below to

506
00:27:52.519 --> 00:27:55.240
actually grab where the apples are, Like I took pictures

507
00:27:55.279 --> 00:27:58.119
and everything, and a little video explaining what I was doing,

508
00:27:58.480 --> 00:28:02.079
because it had just snowed too. My thought was, with

509
00:28:02.119 --> 00:28:04.799
all this crazy stuff going on, let's just put It's

510
00:28:04.799 --> 00:28:07.160
gonna be there anyhow, so it's not like I'm gifting,

511
00:28:07.880 --> 00:28:09.640
so I'll just put it in a location where you

512
00:28:09.799 --> 00:28:13.160
have to have arms to reach it. I did that,

513
00:28:13.240 --> 00:28:17.519
and those apples sat there for like five days until

514
00:28:17.559 --> 00:28:19.720
that night We're all hell broke loose, and I got

515
00:28:19.720 --> 00:28:24.160
those vocalizations like the multiple birds that I said, we're

516
00:28:24.200 --> 00:28:26.319
answering back, and I kind of chased me in the house.

517
00:28:26.400 --> 00:28:28.960
The next day, the apples were gone, but I didn't

518
00:28:28.960 --> 00:28:34.119
find any tracks. And I think what makes this so

519
00:28:34.240 --> 00:28:36.920
weird is it's like there's the UAP stuff that we get.

520
00:28:37.079 --> 00:28:39.000
There's no rhyme or reason than when we have it,

521
00:28:39.480 --> 00:28:41.279
but we'll get it. And I've caught I mean, I

522
00:28:41.279 --> 00:28:44.920
have forty gigs of video and everything from out here,

523
00:28:45.000 --> 00:28:47.839
so it's not like you know a few things here

524
00:28:47.880 --> 00:28:51.640
and there. We're getting all kinds of crazy stuff. Then

525
00:28:51.680 --> 00:28:55.920
you had added the possible Sasquatch stuff. I've recently found

526
00:28:55.960 --> 00:28:58.000
out that a neighbor it's about a mile from me

527
00:28:59.039 --> 00:29:02.079
had one of their horses attacked by a giant black cat,

528
00:29:02.440 --> 00:29:05.079
So I'm trying to figure out who that was and

529
00:29:05.160 --> 00:29:08.759
can I talk to them and it And what makes

530
00:29:08.799 --> 00:29:12.279
this location so interesting to me Jeremiah is I've talked

531
00:29:12.279 --> 00:29:15.960
to stand boardon several times and he had even said

532
00:29:15.960 --> 00:29:19.240
it it seems that there's a there's some kind of

533
00:29:19.240 --> 00:29:25.119
connection between black cats, uap or orbs even and then sasquatch,

534
00:29:25.200 --> 00:29:28.160
but we don't know what they are. And I've looked

535
00:29:28.160 --> 00:29:30.319
into like all kinds of like, you know, could it

536
00:29:30.400 --> 00:29:34.799
be I'm seeing like you know, stuff monitoring like wells

537
00:29:34.960 --> 00:29:37.039
or this or that, and like, no, we could rule

538
00:29:37.039 --> 00:29:39.480
out all this stuff. So I don't know what is

539
00:29:39.519 --> 00:29:42.640
about this location, but there's really a lot of weird

540
00:29:42.680 --> 00:29:45.640
stuff going on. And what makes it hard is I'm

541
00:29:45.680 --> 00:29:48.039
trying to do this scientifically because I don't rule out

542
00:29:48.079 --> 00:29:50.640
any like the crazier stuff that you know they can

543
00:29:50.759 --> 00:29:53.759
like portals and then whatever. I don't know. I'm open.

544
00:29:54.839 --> 00:29:56.960
I think when you do science, you have to be open,

545
00:29:57.240 --> 00:30:01.319
and I've been trying to approach all this as scientifically

546
00:30:01.359 --> 00:30:04.279
as I can because we can't talk about the crazy

547
00:30:04.279 --> 00:30:07.920
stuff until we get signs to actually accept, Hey, this

548
00:30:08.039 --> 00:30:11.599
is real and there's something going on here. So that's

549
00:30:11.359 --> 00:30:13.759
the angle I'm coming out of front. And what I'm

550
00:30:13.759 --> 00:30:15.920
gonna be doing is this week I'm gonna start ordering

551
00:30:15.960 --> 00:30:20.200
my stuff. I'm going to get They're called song meters,

552
00:30:20.480 --> 00:30:24.359
so we use them like in ornithology, like if you're

553
00:30:24.359 --> 00:30:26.039
doing a bird study. You can put them out and

554
00:30:26.039 --> 00:30:29.480
the record you're just audio recorders, but they're for wildlife stuff.

555
00:30:30.359 --> 00:30:32.920
So you can put those out and the record actual

556
00:30:33.200 --> 00:30:35.000
you know, bird songs. You can either have them on

557
00:30:35.039 --> 00:30:38.599
twenty four to seven or set a certain time. And

558
00:30:40.319 --> 00:30:43.279
I'm gonna put four of those out and then I'm

559
00:30:43.279 --> 00:30:47.319
going to I'm gonna use three game cams and we're

560
00:30:47.319 --> 00:30:49.480
gonna see if we catch anything. And with the game

561
00:30:49.519 --> 00:30:51.839
cam is what I'm gonna do. I think it was

562
00:30:51.920 --> 00:30:53.920
Daryl Denton. I don't know if you've talked to him

563
00:30:54.039 --> 00:30:56.559
or not. He does a lot of stuff that they'll

564
00:30:56.640 --> 00:30:57.799
land between the lakes.

565
00:30:58.160 --> 00:31:01.440
Big so society will be right back after these messages.

566
00:31:17.880 --> 00:31:21.240
He suggests. He suggested because he thinks that they can

567
00:31:21.279 --> 00:31:23.839
see you in for red. So he said what he's

568
00:31:23.880 --> 00:31:27.000
been doing is he takes those you know, the dividers

569
00:31:27.000 --> 00:31:29.400
you can get for like trapper keepers feel like the

570
00:31:30.119 --> 00:31:33.680
see through plastic. He said, get the blue ones and

571
00:31:33.759 --> 00:31:36.039
cut it and put them moving the infra red emitter,

572
00:31:36.839 --> 00:31:39.759
and he's had better luck getting like visual stuff like that.

573
00:31:41.279 --> 00:31:44.440
So that's what I'm gonna do like this spring. I'm

574
00:31:44.480 --> 00:31:46.839
gonna get those out and I'm gonna see, like I'm

575
00:31:46.839 --> 00:31:49.200
going to canvass this whole area and see what can

576
00:31:49.240 --> 00:31:52.559
I get audio and visual because I have a feeling

577
00:31:52.640 --> 00:31:55.119
I'm going to be able to actually catch stuff. But

578
00:31:55.279 --> 00:31:58.920
as often as this is happening, and I mean, that's

579
00:31:59.440 --> 00:32:01.400
that's kind of where it's at now. And I know,

580
00:32:03.119 --> 00:32:05.680
like the other stuff that I've talked to Stan about

581
00:32:05.920 --> 00:32:08.960
this fall, he said someone he won't tell me where obviously,

582
00:32:09.960 --> 00:32:13.279
but he did say somewhere in Washington County, like which

583
00:32:13.319 --> 00:32:18.799
isn't far from me, that someone saw for juvenile sasquatch

584
00:32:18.839 --> 00:32:21.240
just walking through the woods. And he said they were

585
00:32:21.319 --> 00:32:23.680
like me. He said, they're a very credible witness, Like

586
00:32:23.720 --> 00:32:28.319
he completely believed their story. So I know they're in

587
00:32:28.319 --> 00:32:31.799
the area as far as like this general area, and

588
00:32:31.839 --> 00:32:36.319
there was even Dans from seventy nine. There's a BFRO

589
00:32:36.559 --> 00:32:39.279
report which has an audio recording to where it sounds

590
00:32:40.079 --> 00:32:42.720
like you hear something almost doing like the Ohio Howe

591
00:32:42.839 --> 00:32:45.039
and then a dog's barking, and then all of a

592
00:32:45.079 --> 00:32:47.759
sudden the dog stops and they said that it killed

593
00:32:47.759 --> 00:32:51.799
their dog. That's just like a couple of miles from

594
00:32:51.799 --> 00:32:57.319
where I'm at, So that that's like it makes me

595
00:32:57.400 --> 00:33:02.680
wonder though, that's just the one. That's just one, you know,

596
00:33:02.880 --> 00:33:05.640
historical event, Like how many of these do people actually

597
00:33:05.640 --> 00:33:09.279
go through that they just don't tell anybody? And I'm

598
00:33:09.279 --> 00:33:11.960
sure you probably you've probably realized a lot of people

599
00:33:11.960 --> 00:33:15.000
don't tell anybody anything, you know, if they ever do

600
00:33:15.240 --> 00:33:18.519
sometimes for years. I just I have a feeling that

601
00:33:18.559 --> 00:33:22.319
this is gonna when people contact you, that there's probably

602
00:33:22.319 --> 00:33:24.079
gonna be a lot in this general area that have

603
00:33:24.160 --> 00:33:30.240
seen things that haven't gone public. And that's it kind

604
00:33:30.240 --> 00:33:32.519
of brings me to like a project idea I have.

605
00:33:32.599 --> 00:33:35.519
It's really feel like the whole us because you know,

606
00:33:35.640 --> 00:33:40.680
nothing like being a little a little uh ambitious. What

607
00:33:40.799 --> 00:33:45.440
I'd like to do. I don't need like locations, like specifically,

608
00:33:45.640 --> 00:33:48.880
or like names if you've seen a sasquatch, What I'd

609
00:33:48.920 --> 00:33:50.640
like to know is what color was it? And what

610
00:33:50.759 --> 00:33:53.160
county was it in, and like the state you know

611
00:33:53.200 --> 00:33:55.640
that that was in. Because if the you know, if

612
00:33:55.640 --> 00:33:58.480
we're trying to prove that these are real, there should

613
00:33:58.559 --> 00:34:01.000
be some kind of a pattern to like the color

614
00:34:01.880 --> 00:34:03.920
and like maybe even the size, like if you could

615
00:34:04.000 --> 00:34:06.720
estimate like the size of it, because I know with

616
00:34:06.839 --> 00:34:11.119
like birds and stuff, like northern flickers, like in the

617
00:34:11.159 --> 00:34:13.960
north they have like the red shafted so they've got

618
00:34:13.960 --> 00:34:15.719
like red on their feathers, but in the South they've

619
00:34:15.719 --> 00:34:18.920
got yellow. So there should be some kind of patterns

620
00:34:18.920 --> 00:34:21.519
to this that we can find out, like for their

621
00:34:21.559 --> 00:34:24.400
fur color and everything else based on you know, where

622
00:34:24.400 --> 00:34:28.719
they're at, like elevation things like that. That'll help, I guess,

623
00:34:28.840 --> 00:34:31.000
add to the data that this is a real animal.

624
00:34:32.280 --> 00:34:34.159
And I, like I told peop before the record, if

625
00:34:34.199 --> 00:34:36.000
anybody wants to get a hold of me, you can

626
00:34:36.039 --> 00:34:41.280
give them like my contact and so, like my email

627
00:34:41.320 --> 00:34:43.960
address and everything, because I would really like to get

628
00:34:43.960 --> 00:34:47.480
ahold of other researchers and talk about doing that project

629
00:34:48.079 --> 00:34:51.639
and I just maybe even investigating other areas in southwestern

630
00:34:51.679 --> 00:34:54.039
PA too, because like I said, I was feeling that

631
00:34:54.079 --> 00:34:57.639
there's a lot of people to see things adult talk

632
00:34:57.920 --> 00:35:01.400
because I know, my mom's seen things like the lights.

633
00:35:01.400 --> 00:35:03.559
She's been seeing the lights out here for over a decade.

634
00:35:03.800 --> 00:35:06.760
And then I saw on the National UFO Reporting Center

635
00:35:06.800 --> 00:35:10.039
that other people from my actual town have been saying, like,

636
00:35:10.079 --> 00:35:12.000
I hope someone else has seen these lights, And that

637
00:35:12.079 --> 00:35:16.480
was over a decade ago. And she's heard like women

638
00:35:16.599 --> 00:35:18.920
screaming in the woods and all kinds of stuff out

639
00:35:18.960 --> 00:35:20.920
here that I didn't even know about until after I

640
00:35:20.960 --> 00:35:27.559
started experiencing it. But I know it's a lot. And

641
00:35:27.599 --> 00:35:29.760
I didn't even cover like any of the UAP stuff

642
00:35:29.760 --> 00:35:34.440
because there's just so much crazy stuff for that, and

643
00:35:34.480 --> 00:35:38.880
I've got like six different softwares that I use for

644
00:35:39.079 --> 00:35:42.159
track things that I can roll stuff out with before

645
00:35:42.199 --> 00:35:46.880
I'm like, oh, yeah, this is weird. But that's kind

646
00:35:46.880 --> 00:35:48.639
of like what's been going on out here. So I

647
00:35:48.639 --> 00:35:50.599
don't know if you have any questions for me, or.

648
00:35:51.639 --> 00:35:52.639
I absolutely do.

649
00:35:53.639 --> 00:35:55.519
Yeah, it's a lot.

650
00:35:56.960 --> 00:36:00.840
I've been falling along with your your Google Earth file

651
00:36:01.000 --> 00:36:04.679
that you gave me access to, which is very interesting

652
00:36:05.559 --> 00:36:09.320
when you're able to see it. And so okay, first off,

653
00:36:10.199 --> 00:36:13.880
so it sounds like we are saying this area is

654
00:36:17.320 --> 00:36:22.039
in the same area or region as Washington County, and

655
00:36:21.760 --> 00:36:28.280
we're leaving it as as that pretty much, right, Yeah, okay, cool.

656
00:36:31.559 --> 00:36:37.400
It's so I've also pulled up the same area on X.

657
00:36:37.800 --> 00:36:41.599
Not a sponsor, but if you guys want to talk,

658
00:36:42.199 --> 00:36:44.840
you can reach out because I know you use bigfoot

659
00:36:44.840 --> 00:36:53.880
stuff in your app. So anyways, I love ONYX. If

660
00:36:53.960 --> 00:37:01.039
I was in your shoes in this area, You're in

661
00:37:01.079 --> 00:37:07.880
an interesting area with a lot of woods. Yeah, there's

662
00:37:08.000 --> 00:37:11.000
not too many people to talk to about what's going

663
00:37:11.039 --> 00:37:13.159
on in those woods, And I don't know if you've

664
00:37:13.159 --> 00:37:17.599
ever thought to reach out to those that small number

665
00:37:17.639 --> 00:37:20.840
of individuals that are in public record.

666
00:37:22.920 --> 00:37:25.880
Well that's the thing. Like the like the BFRO account

667
00:37:25.880 --> 00:37:28.039
of course doesn't say who it was, it'll just have

668
00:37:28.239 --> 00:37:30.599
like a first name. But I'm like, that was from

669
00:37:30.639 --> 00:37:33.519
seventy nine, So I'm like, I don't even know if

670
00:37:33.559 --> 00:37:36.960
that person's even still alive. You know, alte lives around here. Now.

671
00:37:37.960 --> 00:37:42.000
I guess I'm saying more like, if you're experiencing stuff

672
00:37:42.039 --> 00:37:48.239
on your property, uh, these these other places, they've got

673
00:37:48.239 --> 00:37:51.800
to have stuff going on, Oh they have to.

674
00:37:52.159 --> 00:37:56.559
Yeah, Like I would like to ask, but I guess

675
00:37:56.599 --> 00:37:58.719
the thing is I just don't know how to approach

676
00:37:58.800 --> 00:38:00.880
people I mean, how you approach and be like, hey,

677
00:38:00.920 --> 00:38:03.400
you know I heard like I've been trying to figure

678
00:38:03.400 --> 00:38:06.719
out how to find out who that the person's horse was,

679
00:38:06.760 --> 00:38:08.960
that it was the only got attacked by the black cat.

680
00:38:09.519 --> 00:38:11.400
But I'm like, well, if I do find out who

681
00:38:11.440 --> 00:38:14.119
it is, so I just say like, hey, you know,

682
00:38:14.280 --> 00:38:17.199
like I heard your horse tte attacked by a black cat.

683
00:38:17.320 --> 00:38:21.039
Like I guess it's just because the weirdness of everything,

684
00:38:21.079 --> 00:38:23.880
I'm trying to figure out how to approach people without

685
00:38:23.960 --> 00:38:27.159
like making myself sound crazier about like scaring them off.

686
00:38:27.199 --> 00:38:30.360
You know, yeah, I know, no, I get it. It's like, uh,

687
00:38:30.800 --> 00:38:33.800
I mean I hear a lot of people use the

688
00:38:34.760 --> 00:38:38.199
hey I ever experienced anything weird around here? I mean

689
00:38:38.519 --> 00:38:41.079
you got to have the way of talking to the person.

690
00:38:41.119 --> 00:38:43.039
You just don't want to knock on their door and

691
00:38:43.079 --> 00:38:45.400
be like, hey, let's talk about weird stuff. Although I

692
00:38:45.400 --> 00:38:49.280
guess maybe sometimes it does work, I don't know. It's

693
00:38:49.679 --> 00:38:52.320
you got to know your area, right, like the culture

694
00:38:52.360 --> 00:38:53.079
in your area.

695
00:38:54.039 --> 00:38:56.719
I'm thinking about getting like business cards made with the

696
00:38:56.760 --> 00:39:00.960
email address eye contacted you guys the proton okay, and

697
00:39:01.119 --> 00:39:03.199
just giving that the people and being like if you

698
00:39:03.360 --> 00:39:05.679
or anyone you know has anything weird in this area.

699
00:39:06.280 --> 00:39:08.800
You know, this is completely You can even do it anonymously,

700
00:39:10.239 --> 00:39:14.079
so that's actually.

701
00:39:13.400 --> 00:39:16.039
That's super smart. That's kind of what I do too.

702
00:39:16.760 --> 00:39:20.519
And once you become the guy that's known for the

703
00:39:20.559 --> 00:39:26.400
weird stuff about your area or another area. Now with

704
00:39:26.519 --> 00:39:30.119
the internet and and things, you don't have to live

705
00:39:30.159 --> 00:39:34.360
in the area to become the guy for that area,

706
00:39:34.440 --> 00:39:40.760
which is really interesting to think about, right, but uh, yeah,

707
00:39:40.800 --> 00:39:46.000
that that might point you in the right direction. Excuse me.

708
00:39:46.079 --> 00:39:49.480
When you talk to Stan Gordon about this, what was

709
00:39:49.519 --> 00:39:52.480
his reaction? Was it like, yeah, it makes sense for

710
00:39:52.559 --> 00:39:56.920
that area, or he's like, oh, this is very unique.

711
00:39:55.719 --> 00:40:00.960
This is very interesting because, like you know, I emailed

712
00:40:01.000 --> 00:40:03.280
him initially four years ago when I saw the UAP

713
00:40:03.440 --> 00:40:06.039
because I'm like, he said, you know, typically people don't

714
00:40:06.039 --> 00:40:07.639
tell me, and I think I just kind of went

715
00:40:07.679 --> 00:40:10.800
in the shock and I kind of just reverted back

716
00:40:10.800 --> 00:40:13.480
into okay, science this. So I got like all the

717
00:40:13.480 --> 00:40:16.760
weather data and just typed immediately what happened, and I

718
00:40:16.920 --> 00:40:18.960
was I was kind of like panicked and shocked because

719
00:40:19.000 --> 00:40:23.280
I've never experienced anything like that before. So then four

720
00:40:23.360 --> 00:40:25.280
years later, when I contacted him, He's like, oh, I

721
00:40:25.360 --> 00:40:27.880
wanted to talk to you, you know, because your background

722
00:40:27.920 --> 00:40:30.800
and everything. And then I explained, you know, like what's

723
00:40:30.800 --> 00:40:33.960
been going on with the sasquat stuff. And he said, yeah,

724
00:40:34.000 --> 00:40:36.639
I'm not surprised. He said that area, he said, Washington

725
00:40:36.639 --> 00:40:39.360
County in general, you know, that whole surrounding area that's

726
00:40:39.400 --> 00:40:42.639
a hatbed. He said, there's all kinds of like stuff.

727
00:40:43.239 --> 00:40:46.320
He said, in fact, someone just saw for juvenile sasquatch

728
00:40:46.400 --> 00:40:49.920
in Washington County alone, he said, like this fall. He said,

729
00:40:50.000 --> 00:40:53.480
I can't give you any more info, but I said,

730
00:40:53.480 --> 00:40:56.119
you know, I have a feeling that there's a lot

731
00:40:56.159 --> 00:40:59.280
that goes on just in this general area. He said, oh,

732
00:40:59.320 --> 00:41:02.519
there is. He said that he had actually talked to

733
00:41:02.760 --> 00:41:05.719
p the PA Game Commission, like he's talked to them

734
00:41:05.760 --> 00:41:08.800
like actual, like a professional, like he went and did

735
00:41:08.800 --> 00:41:13.119
presentations on like UAP, sasquatch, black cats, like a bunch

736
00:41:13.199 --> 00:41:16.000
of stuff. He's like, so they're well aware and they

737
00:41:16.039 --> 00:41:17.679
aren't interested in this, he said, And I have a

738
00:41:17.679 --> 00:41:20.519
feeling that they know more than what they're telling them too. Really,

739
00:41:21.000 --> 00:41:23.239
because he said, you know, because he said, you know

740
00:41:23.280 --> 00:41:25.840
you've worked on because I I mean, I can just

741
00:41:26.000 --> 00:41:27.519
come out here and just say like what I did.

742
00:41:27.559 --> 00:41:29.719
I worked when I was going to cal I was

743
00:41:29.760 --> 00:41:32.880
working with it was my department chair at the time,

744
00:41:33.199 --> 00:41:37.119
but we were doing like wetland's restoration work. So I

745
00:41:37.159 --> 00:41:40.480
worked for like Friends of Fish and Wildlife, Like Jose

746
00:41:40.599 --> 00:41:43.840
Tacido was like the guy that ran that. So it

747
00:41:43.920 --> 00:41:46.719
was like technically through the US fish how long is

748
00:41:46.840 --> 00:41:48.960
us fishing all away? For the game commission was one

749
00:41:49.039 --> 00:41:52.280
of them was technically overseeing it, and then I worked

750
00:41:52.360 --> 00:41:57.199
for him specifically, you know, and and stance. What would

751
00:41:57.239 --> 00:41:59.840
have happened, you know, if you'd have told someone when

752
00:41:59.880 --> 00:42:02.559
you were at work, you know, like the sad squat

753
00:42:02.599 --> 00:42:05.480
stuff for the UAP stuff. And I said, Stan, they

754
00:42:05.480 --> 00:42:07.639
didn't come out and say it, but just how they

755
00:42:07.679 --> 00:42:09.639
reacted to other stuff. I said, if I just said

756
00:42:09.639 --> 00:42:12.000
anything like that, I wouldn't have had a job, and

757
00:42:12.039 --> 00:42:14.719
they'd have just laughed me off the site. Oh wow.

758
00:42:15.400 --> 00:42:17.760
And I realized like how closed minded some of these

759
00:42:17.760 --> 00:42:20.840
people were because we were at the site and the

760
00:42:20.880 --> 00:42:22.840
girl was one of the girls I was working was said,

761
00:42:22.880 --> 00:42:24.920
you know, hey, there's a blue gill in this wetland,

762
00:42:25.639 --> 00:42:27.440
and the guy in Charger's like, well, they're can't be

763
00:42:27.480 --> 00:42:29.800
you know, we didn't put any fish here, but there

764
00:42:29.920 --> 00:42:32.280
was a creek there ran right next to it, so

765
00:42:32.400 --> 00:42:35.079
you know, when it floods, everything gets pulled into the

766
00:42:35.079 --> 00:42:37.880
wetlands and then you have you know, water fowl that

767
00:42:37.960 --> 00:42:40.920
can carry the eggs and stuff too. And I'm like, well,

768
00:42:40.920 --> 00:42:42.840
first off, you know, how do you know there's nothing here?

769
00:42:43.039 --> 00:42:45.079
So I walked over and I looked at him like

770
00:42:45.280 --> 00:42:47.920
I'm looking right out the bluegill. And it took me

771
00:42:48.000 --> 00:42:50.760
to do that and him to come over and physically

772
00:42:50.760 --> 00:42:52.880
look at it even believed that something as simple as

773
00:42:52.920 --> 00:42:55.840
a blue deal was where it shouldn't be. So I'm like,

774
00:42:55.880 --> 00:42:57.760
I don't know how to even make headway them with

775
00:42:57.840 --> 00:43:00.320
something like this. You know, if they're that closed it

776
00:43:02.880 --> 00:43:04.760
that they won't even believe that there's like a simple

777
00:43:04.800 --> 00:43:08.880
bluegill in a wet land that is.

778
00:43:09.679 --> 00:43:13.679
That is some wild stuff. I can't imagine working in a.

779
00:43:15.360 --> 00:43:15.639
It is.

780
00:43:15.679 --> 00:43:18.880
And it was very frust frustrating, like between like that

781
00:43:18.960 --> 00:43:21.119
and then like you know, the politics, because I'd have

782
00:43:21.199 --> 00:43:23.760
to do like grant proposals and all kind of like

783
00:43:24.360 --> 00:43:27.679
it was a very stressful job. That's the only reason

784
00:43:27.760 --> 00:43:30.440
I don't do it anymore, like from my main income

785
00:43:30.599 --> 00:43:33.880
is just because of the stress, like the work, the

786
00:43:33.920 --> 00:43:35.880
field work and everything in the lab work. I love.

787
00:43:36.320 --> 00:43:39.440
I can do that all day, it's just the other

788
00:43:39.679 --> 00:43:40.360
the other stuff.

789
00:43:40.400 --> 00:43:46.800
Do it absolutely. I want to ask about potential things

790
00:43:46.840 --> 00:43:55.079
happening around the property, just a double check. Remind me

791
00:43:55.239 --> 00:43:59.360
at any time, have you seen tracks around the property?

792
00:43:59.639 --> 00:44:04.519
No? And that's the surprising part. But there's a lot

793
00:44:04.559 --> 00:44:07.239
of this ground is really hard because when my mom's

794
00:44:07.239 --> 00:44:10.400
boyfriend bought the property, I guess it used to be

795
00:44:10.639 --> 00:44:14.199
like essentially like a junk yard. So like a lot

796
00:44:14.239 --> 00:44:17.960
of this area is like hard clay and things like that.

797
00:44:18.039 --> 00:44:20.320
So I don't know how easy it would be the

798
00:44:20.400 --> 00:44:23.519
leaf tracks. Maybe like up in the woods you could

799
00:44:23.559 --> 00:44:26.199
because the ground's a little softer, but like around the

800
00:44:26.239 --> 00:44:28.239
house and everything, they even have a hard time putting

801
00:44:28.280 --> 00:44:31.480
gardens in every year just because of the soil itself.

802
00:44:33.400 --> 00:44:38.519
Okay, so you used to be I keep looking. Yeah,

803
00:44:39.159 --> 00:44:41.840
that's really interesting. Have you ever looked to see if

804
00:44:41.880 --> 00:44:45.280
you can figure out who the previous owner of that

805
00:44:45.400 --> 00:44:49.119
junk yard was and maybe see if they're still alive

806
00:44:49.280 --> 00:44:51.599
to talk to them.

807
00:44:52.000 --> 00:44:54.960
I do know that, I do know they're not alive, okay,

808
00:44:55.079 --> 00:44:57.800
because he was very he was like in his eighties

809
00:44:57.840 --> 00:45:00.480
when when my mom's boyfriend bought it. That was like

810
00:45:00.559 --> 00:45:04.159
back in well, back in the eighties, okay, like the

811
00:45:04.199 --> 00:45:06.880
guy actually built the guy actually built the house and

812
00:45:06.920 --> 00:45:08.480
all this all this stuff out here.

813
00:45:09.599 --> 00:45:12.960
Another fun thing you can do is sometimes areas will

814
00:45:13.000 --> 00:45:22.960
have they'll have history themed Facebook groups for certain areas

815
00:45:23.000 --> 00:45:27.039
of the country, so you find see if you have

816
00:45:27.079 --> 00:45:30.880
one for this area or like strange stuff for society

817
00:45:30.920 --> 00:45:32.840
will be right back after these messages.

818
00:45:48.800 --> 00:45:50.880
The one group I did find like they'll have a

819
00:45:50.920 --> 00:45:52.719
podcast too. I don't know if you know the guys

820
00:45:52.719 --> 00:45:55.159
from Wild and I think It's Wild and Weird Western Virginia.

821
00:45:55.280 --> 00:45:58.159
Oh yeah, Joe and ron yep, yeah.

822
00:45:57.960 --> 00:45:59.880
Because they knew the whole area. And apparently they the

823
00:46:00.039 --> 00:46:02.000
bird guide that I wrote that I sent you. It's

824
00:46:02.119 --> 00:46:04.880
up on Amazon. They used for like the West Virginia

825
00:46:04.920 --> 00:46:10.119
like Master Naturalists program. Okay, that kind of blew my mind.

826
00:46:10.119 --> 00:46:12.320
I'm like, use my bird guide. I didn't think anyone

827
00:46:12.360 --> 00:46:13.559
even did anything with it.

828
00:46:15.159 --> 00:46:15.800
That's awesome.

829
00:46:16.039 --> 00:46:20.079
Wow. But I've been talking to them because, like you know,

830
00:46:20.119 --> 00:46:22.719
they cover all West Virginia, but especially like around like

831
00:46:22.760 --> 00:46:25.719
the Tri State area, Like there's people in the group

832
00:46:25.760 --> 00:46:28.599
and stuff. So I've been keeping tabs tooling like weird

833
00:46:28.639 --> 00:46:30.400
stuff that they've been reporting.

834
00:46:30.199 --> 00:46:34.320
On the property. Do you find a lot of like

835
00:46:35.679 --> 00:46:40.039
broken trees, kind of like twisted off trees or bent

836
00:46:40.159 --> 00:46:43.800
over trees, any weird stuff like that.

837
00:46:43.800 --> 00:46:46.480
That's gonna be what I look for this spring because

838
00:46:46.519 --> 00:46:48.519
to be ones, I haven't been back in those woods

839
00:46:48.519 --> 00:46:50.679
since I was chased out. I was that terrified.

840
00:46:50.920 --> 00:46:52.639
Oh yeah, right, makes sense.

841
00:46:52.800 --> 00:46:55.800
But this this spring, this spring, I'm going back because

842
00:46:55.840 --> 00:46:59.039
I just bought a book. I can't remember who wrote it,

843
00:46:59.079 --> 00:47:02.320
but it's like it's a book on tree structures for

844
00:47:02.639 --> 00:47:06.239
like suppose it's sasquatch. So I'm going to use that

845
00:47:06.639 --> 00:47:08.480
and you know, take a camera back with me and

846
00:47:08.519 --> 00:47:12.840
everything and see like what I can find. But that

847
00:47:12.840 --> 00:47:15.079
that's the next stage is like deploying like all the

848
00:47:15.119 --> 00:47:17.719
recorders and stuff and going back in that general area

849
00:47:17.719 --> 00:47:20.199
and looking and seeing if I can find anything. It's

850
00:47:20.239 --> 00:47:22.119
just waiting on the weather to break a little bit

851
00:47:22.239 --> 00:47:24.440
because we keep getting all this snow. Yeah.

852
00:47:24.480 --> 00:47:28.119
Absolutely, I mean those recorders you were talking about are

853
00:47:28.360 --> 00:47:31.360
very very effective. From other researchers that I've talked to.

854
00:47:31.599 --> 00:47:36.880
They're worth getting. They are they will give you some

855
00:47:37.000 --> 00:47:40.360
quality audio, so that is a great idea, and.

856
00:47:40.400 --> 00:47:43.559
They're super a horriable now too, if anyone like is

857
00:47:43.639 --> 00:47:47.440
interested in getting these, Like I'm getting the bird Song micro.

858
00:47:48.199 --> 00:47:52.039
It's less than two hundred dollars a recorder, so like

859
00:47:52.119 --> 00:47:55.119
anyone can afford that. I mean, that's they used to

860
00:47:55.119 --> 00:47:58.280
be really expensive to get stuff to do, like bird

861
00:47:58.360 --> 00:48:00.760
surveys and everything, but now it's come down and price

862
00:48:00.800 --> 00:48:02.880
so much that it's extremely affordable.

863
00:48:05.840 --> 00:48:10.280
I wanted to check about some other type of sounds

864
00:48:10.320 --> 00:48:14.159
to see if you've heard them on the property. Have

865
00:48:14.280 --> 00:48:19.360
you ever heard anything that would resemble a metallic type

866
00:48:19.360 --> 00:48:24.079
of sound or a baby crying or something calling the

867
00:48:24.199 --> 00:48:28.320
names of people that live on the property, or voices.

868
00:48:27.760 --> 00:48:33.039
That you know. But my mom did, She said she heard,

869
00:48:33.800 --> 00:48:36.199
and I'm trying to I'm gonna, like really kind of

870
00:48:36.639 --> 00:48:38.400
try to press her on this because I know she

871
00:48:38.440 --> 00:48:41.599
doesn't like to talk about this stuff. But she did

872
00:48:41.639 --> 00:48:43.960
tell me that they heard it sounded like a woman's screaming.

873
00:48:44.000 --> 00:48:46.239
I don't know if she was a screaming screaming for

874
00:48:46.320 --> 00:48:49.519
help or what coming from the woods one night that

875
00:48:49.639 --> 00:48:54.880
her her and her boyfriend both heard that, and I

876
00:48:54.920 --> 00:48:56.960
know he's lived out here for thirty years and we

877
00:48:57.000 --> 00:49:00.159
do have like Bobcat stuff, but he knows what this

878
00:49:00.239 --> 00:49:03.239
all sounds like. You know. It's like there's times I'll

879
00:49:03.280 --> 00:49:04.920
play a recording and he's like, yeah, I don't know

880
00:49:04.960 --> 00:49:08.480
what that is. Okay, yeah, exactly.

881
00:49:11.480 --> 00:49:16.360
So I'm going to guess that probably at this point.

882
00:49:16.679 --> 00:49:19.880
And I didn't see any in everything that you sent

883
00:49:20.000 --> 00:49:23.000
over or gave me access to you, So you don't

884
00:49:23.000 --> 00:49:29.079
have recordings of anything yet, right, I have.

885
00:49:29.079 --> 00:49:31.719
That one from Christmas. I just I don't know if

886
00:49:31.760 --> 00:49:33.960
I I don't know if I added that yet. I'm

887
00:49:33.960 --> 00:49:37.360
gonna make sure tonight. I'm gonna get everything uploaded that

888
00:49:37.440 --> 00:49:40.079
I have. They were like messing with the dogs. They

889
00:49:40.119 --> 00:49:42.320
What freaked me out was our one dog kept trying

890
00:49:42.360 --> 00:49:45.800
to walk over towards that area, So I'm like, are

891
00:49:45.800 --> 00:49:48.679
they My concern was they're trying to lure my dogs

892
00:49:48.679 --> 00:49:51.079
away because I know I keep hearing that they don't

893
00:49:51.159 --> 00:49:53.920
like dogs, and I'm worried that they're going to try

894
00:49:53.960 --> 00:49:57.119
to get the one because she's so she likes everybody.

895
00:49:57.440 --> 00:49:59.079
She probably if she thought it was a person, would

896
00:49:59.119 --> 00:50:01.199
have run right over to. You know, that was really

897
00:50:01.199 --> 00:50:03.960
why I came back out. That's why I came back

898
00:50:03.960 --> 00:50:06.360
out with the flashlight because I'm like, I'm not having this.

899
00:50:06.480 --> 00:50:08.960
You know, I don't care if they're out here, just

900
00:50:09.000 --> 00:50:11.320
stay away from the house and don't mess with my animals.

901
00:50:11.480 --> 00:50:14.639
You actually do have it in there. Do you mind

902
00:50:14.639 --> 00:50:16.519
if I play the audio from it real quick?

903
00:50:19.639 --> 00:50:23.280
All right, I don't know what's going on tonight, but

904
00:50:23.360 --> 00:50:31.840
I'll tell you this. Please tell me that just caught

905
00:50:31.880 --> 00:50:57.159
on camera. There was something walking. You hear that, You

906
00:50:57.159 --> 00:51:06.840
hear the al starting now there's something back in?

907
00:51:10.519 --> 00:51:10.920
All right?

908
00:51:11.639 --> 00:51:16.800
That was an eagle or a hawk. Time to go

909
00:51:16.880 --> 00:51:18.880
back in because there's at least four of them out here.

910
00:51:23.159 --> 00:51:26.960
Yeah, there was like an definitely sound that bird sound

911
00:51:27.000 --> 00:51:32.119
should not have been that that time of day. That's crazy.

912
00:51:32.280 --> 00:51:34.639
No, none of the none of those birds should be

913
00:51:34.679 --> 00:51:37.760
talking to one another like that. And like I said,

914
00:51:37.760 --> 00:51:39.440
it sounded like there was something behind me. That's why

915
00:51:39.480 --> 00:51:41.280
I'm like, please tell me you caught that because it

916
00:51:41.320 --> 00:51:44.239
was over towards the garage, Like I could hear something

917
00:51:44.280 --> 00:51:46.840
that sounds like a person walking, and then when you

918
00:51:46.880 --> 00:51:49.039
hear those other three sounds in front of me, I'm like, oh,

919
00:51:49.079 --> 00:51:51.079
I don't like this, you know what I mean. It's

920
00:51:51.119 --> 00:51:56.480
like I felt surrounded, gotcha. Yeah, that's the kind of

921
00:51:56.480 --> 00:51:58.840
stuff that's like starting to happen now. And I don't

922
00:51:58.960 --> 00:52:03.639
like that because I you know, I don't want to

923
00:52:03.679 --> 00:52:06.000
have to shoot anything. But I'm like, I'm at to

924
00:52:06.039 --> 00:52:08.079
the point where it's like I'll defend us, but I'm

925
00:52:08.119 --> 00:52:09.760
not going to go I just shoot one, you know

926
00:52:09.760 --> 00:52:12.159
what I mean. But I will defend like our animals

927
00:52:12.280 --> 00:52:16.480
or myself, I after, I mean, anyone should do that. Yeah,

928
00:52:16.519 --> 00:52:19.920
I mean, like I really don't. I just don't want

929
00:52:19.960 --> 00:52:21.920
that to escalate to that that's not needed, you know

930
00:52:21.920 --> 00:52:23.719
what I mean. Like keep the your area, I'll keep

931
00:52:23.719 --> 00:52:26.320
the mind and we can go exist just fine.

932
00:52:26.920 --> 00:52:29.840
Yeah, I think I think coexisting is a good goal.

933
00:52:29.960 --> 00:52:33.119
And I definitely wouldn't recommend putting any food out or

934
00:52:33.159 --> 00:52:33.920
anything like that.

935
00:52:34.000 --> 00:52:40.000
And that just a yeah, yes, And I'm going to

936
00:52:40.000 --> 00:52:42.000
always make sure to that I'm respectful what I'm in

937
00:52:42.000 --> 00:52:43.480
the woods, you know, Like I said that day, like

938
00:52:43.519 --> 00:52:45.440
I'm not here to cause problems. You know. I told

939
00:52:45.480 --> 00:52:47.760
them what I was doing because I do think that

940
00:52:47.760 --> 00:52:50.199
they understand a lot more than people give them. Credit

941
00:52:50.239 --> 00:52:50.400
for it.

942
00:52:51.519 --> 00:52:55.599
Oh, it is a definite high intelligence. From what I've

943
00:52:55.639 --> 00:52:58.440
picked up from talking to people about this for a

944
00:52:58.440 --> 00:53:01.559
few years. It's it's high.

945
00:53:01.719 --> 00:53:04.719
I think they're as smart as us. I really do.

946
00:53:04.920 --> 00:53:11.719
Absolutely. I do want to also point out what you

947
00:53:11.840 --> 00:53:16.519
had said about when you got chased out and you

948
00:53:16.679 --> 00:53:21.039
had because you had pretty much beat your chest in response.

949
00:53:23.199 --> 00:53:26.760
I just want to echo that I, oh, you know

950
00:53:26.800 --> 00:53:27.199
what that.

951
00:53:27.199 --> 00:53:30.320
Might have that might escalated things now I think about it,

952
00:53:30.360 --> 00:53:32.000
that could have been seen as a challenge.

953
00:53:32.159 --> 00:53:36.480
Oh yeah, totally. And I will say that because I've

954
00:53:36.519 --> 00:53:42.199
done the same thing unfortunately in Iowa last year, and

955
00:53:42.199 --> 00:53:48.199
and I the he's probably listening, and brother, you're great,

956
00:53:48.559 --> 00:53:51.400
but I'm never We're going to leave it that but

957
00:53:51.960 --> 00:53:54.400
you're a great individual. But I'm never doing it again

958
00:53:54.519 --> 00:54:00.159
because what happened to me afterwards is I started to

959
00:54:00.159 --> 00:54:05.639
to experience what I interpret as being hit by infrasound

960
00:54:05.920 --> 00:54:06.760
multiple times.

961
00:54:07.519 --> 00:54:07.960
Uh.

962
00:54:08.039 --> 00:54:11.920
And it was just an experience. I will never ever

963
00:54:12.039 --> 00:54:17.239
do that again. Not so guys, don't do that, please.

964
00:54:20.519 --> 00:54:21.159
It's not good.

965
00:54:21.320 --> 00:54:24.280
Yeah, not good.

966
00:54:24.840 --> 00:54:30.519
As a scary, scary night, we also ended up it

967
00:54:30.559 --> 00:54:34.360
was two am, and our tent poles broke and the

968
00:54:34.400 --> 00:54:38.599
tent came down on top of us new tent.

969
00:54:39.159 --> 00:54:41.920
Very well, that's a bad night.

970
00:54:42.039 --> 00:54:44.440
Yeah, it's a bad night. So that is what it is.

971
00:54:44.519 --> 00:54:46.639
But I mean, no one got hurt, but it's just

972
00:54:46.719 --> 00:54:53.199
it's very weird. Oh here's something else I want to

973
00:54:53.239 --> 00:54:56.360
ask you. So you've got a lot of weird things

974
00:54:56.400 --> 00:55:01.400
happening on the property. Is the weird stuff happen is

975
00:55:01.440 --> 00:55:05.679
the weird stuff sticking outside or has it started to

976
00:55:07.840 --> 00:55:10.360
influence things inside the house as well.

977
00:55:11.760 --> 00:55:16.800
Just outside? Okay, good, I've been real real, Uh, I've

978
00:55:16.800 --> 00:55:19.239
been trying to really pay attention to that too, because

979
00:55:19.239 --> 00:55:21.599
of you know, I'm well aware of I listen to

980
00:55:21.639 --> 00:55:23.440
a lot of episodes of your stuff and a lot

981
00:55:23.440 --> 00:55:26.760
of other stuff, so I'm well aware of, like what

982
00:55:26.840 --> 00:55:27.360
the watch for.

983
00:55:28.719 --> 00:55:32.199
Yeah, it's it's it's very interesting.

984
00:55:33.039 --> 00:55:33.360
It is.

985
00:55:34.400 --> 00:55:38.480
I think it's part of the conversation. I honestly do

986
00:55:38.639 --> 00:55:41.159
because and I don't know why, and I don't know

987
00:55:41.199 --> 00:55:45.639
if anyone knows why yet, but just I noticed patterns

988
00:55:45.679 --> 00:55:50.360
from conversations over the years, and more often than not, Uh,

989
00:55:50.719 --> 00:55:54.840
someone experiences or has an interaction with a big foot

990
00:55:54.960 --> 00:55:57.800
out in the field and they can bring stuff home

991
00:55:58.119 --> 00:56:02.320
or stuff can start happening out home. It's really weird. Yes,

992
00:56:02.880 --> 00:56:05.880
So I think that's definitely part of the talk. So

993
00:56:05.880 --> 00:56:11.440
I'm glad that it's whatever is that connection is staying

994
00:56:11.440 --> 00:56:16.400
outside and stay out there, so right, it'd be interesting

995
00:56:16.559 --> 00:56:21.760
to hear what you're able to capture once you put

996
00:56:21.800 --> 00:56:25.559
this the uh the song meters out. That will be

997
00:56:25.599 --> 00:56:26.679
extremely interesting.

998
00:56:29.440 --> 00:56:33.639
One thing I thought about doing is because Daryl had

999
00:56:33.639 --> 00:56:35.360
talked about like how they like I think it was

1000
00:56:35.400 --> 00:56:39.320
Daryl talked about they like glow sticks. Well, I found

1001
00:56:39.360 --> 00:56:41.159
you can buy those ones that you're supposed to use

1002
00:56:41.199 --> 00:56:45.159
like an emergency to last twenty four hours. So I'm like,

1003
00:56:45.280 --> 00:56:48.000
what if where I put those game cams? If I

1004
00:56:48.039 --> 00:56:50.320
set one of those somewhere like where you can see

1005
00:56:50.320 --> 00:56:53.400
it on the game cam, I'm wonder if I'm I mean,

1006
00:56:53.960 --> 00:56:57.079
I don't expect to catch anything video wise, to be honest,

1007
00:56:57.159 --> 00:57:00.280
but I'm like, if I put one in each of

1008
00:57:00.320 --> 00:57:03.480
those spots, will I ever catch anything grabbing it or

1009
00:57:03.719 --> 00:57:04.960
just moving? You know what I mean?

1010
00:57:07.840 --> 00:57:09.559
Yeah, I think that would be that would be a

1011
00:57:09.599 --> 00:57:13.360
cool experiment for sure. It Matt, this is going to

1012
00:57:13.400 --> 00:57:16.760
be really interesting to see, you know, what happens when

1013
00:57:16.760 --> 00:57:21.400
you start being able to get you know, some recordings

1014
00:57:21.559 --> 00:57:27.599
and maybe you know, start to have some some researchers

1015
00:57:27.679 --> 00:57:30.400
comment and check it out. It sounds like you are

1016
00:57:30.480 --> 00:57:34.440
definitely wanting if there's researchers in the area to contact

1017
00:57:34.480 --> 00:57:36.800
you about this area right.

1018
00:57:37.920 --> 00:57:40.039
Yes, because I would love to have like some like

1019
00:57:40.199 --> 00:57:44.119
legit researchers. Man. Maybe they even have more equipment, you know,

1020
00:57:44.239 --> 00:57:47.559
like like a parabolic or anything like that that would

1021
00:57:47.559 --> 00:57:50.199
be interesting to get out here too, to see if

1022
00:57:50.239 --> 00:57:53.559
we can catch anything during these nights, like through a

1023
00:57:53.599 --> 00:58:00.000
parabolic like you know, like a parabolic microphone and stuff. Absolutely,

1024
00:58:00.079 --> 00:58:02.599
because I don't know, maybe there's maybe there's other stuff

1025
00:58:02.599 --> 00:58:05.119
on frequencies too that I can't pick up on my ears,

1026
00:58:05.239 --> 00:58:08.920
so we could we could pick up. But yeah, I'm

1027
00:58:08.960 --> 00:58:12.559
looking forward to seeing like what exactly I'm gonna catch

1028
00:58:12.559 --> 00:58:13.760
out here. If anything, we.

1029
00:58:13.719 --> 00:58:16.760
Will definitely check back in and if you're able to

1030
00:58:17.280 --> 00:58:19.079
you know, I'd love to hear if you're able to

1031
00:58:19.079 --> 00:58:22.800
get some interesting recordings, which I'm sure that you will.

1032
00:58:22.800 --> 00:58:25.639
But you know, Matt, it has been great chatting with

1033
00:58:25.679 --> 00:58:28.000
you on the show today and thank you for coming on.

1034
00:58:28.480 --> 00:58:30.599
Do you have a few other things I want to

1035
00:58:31.920 --> 00:58:34.719
talk to you? Off air about but yeah, thank you

1036
00:58:34.760 --> 00:58:35.639
so much for coming on.

1037
00:58:35.719 --> 00:58:39.360
Man, yeah not a papa. Thank you so much for

1038
00:58:39.400 --> 00:58:41.800
having me. And like I said, if anybody wants to

1039
00:58:41.800 --> 00:58:45.000
reach out, Jeremiah has my email address. I'm more than

1040
00:58:45.039 --> 00:58:47.599
willing for him to give that to you. So just

1041
00:58:47.679 --> 00:58:50.079
go ahead and just probably putting the you know in

1042
00:58:50.119 --> 00:58:53.440
the subject like the sasquatch or something like so I

1043
00:58:53.519 --> 00:58:57.159
know like that it's someone from you know that you're

1044
00:58:57.159 --> 00:59:00.920
getting a hold of hold of me through Jeremiah.

1045
00:59:00.960 --> 00:59:04.039
Absolutely just want to take a few minutes to say

1046
00:59:04.039 --> 00:59:07.079
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1059
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