Witness Captures Massive Bigfoot Handprint on Quartz Mountain and Leaves Shaken

0:00 You're listening to Big the Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring you first hand encounters from people who say they've seen something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere, and each one leaves us with more questions than answers. These are the voices of the people who've lived it. To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that just might change the way you see the woods forever. So stay with us, all right, Pick the Society. You got the privilege of talking to Carisa today. Crisa is a listener of the show from Oregon and has some really interesting things to share. I believe Chrisa, you reached out to me and you said, hey, you're the one I'm going to tell the stories to. I picked you something like that really fun, So I appreciate that's really a special thing, and I do not take that lightly at all. Welcome to the show. How are you doing today?

0:57 I'm well, I'm well, how are you doing? Right? We are in and out of some cold weather out here in Iowa, but not too cold yet. But we're gonna make it. You know what, I'm going to go ahead and feel free to take us back to when you started having these interactions or what you experienced, and then we'll chat about it later on. Okay, I'm gonna I'll go ahead and start with the story that i'd sent you. I was lucky enough to get a firewatch job here in Oregon, and they have lookout towers in certain spots all of his course around here, and I had spent a weekend in a once general area and after the weekend was over, it was time for me to go home, get rested up, and all that until I got another call to go out. I had left. It was Monday morning. I do believe Sunday night or Monday morning one or two, but it was Monday morning, and so I went fishing for a couple hours, hung out around the area because it's just a good scenic place to be. It's peaceful, it's just a nice area.

1:56 And there's a way to cut over from where I was over the hill and it gets me closer to home and we get to drive through the forest, look at nature and just have fun. And anyways, it was getting pretty dark out and I was getting tired, and I was almost to the very top of where you cross over, and I was like, maybe I'll just take a little nap for a couple hours, then get up and continue on home. And I had found this little spot off the side of the road that I could tell people had camped there before, so I decided to back in there. And as I'm backing in, my dog and my son's dog that I had with me at the time, completely just we're barking at the back end of my suv, like unhinged, just freaking out. So I stopped, and I had my spotlight and I leaned out the window and didn't see anything back there, but and I see all nothing to be quiet because they're allowed and anyways, I continued to back up slowly. But as I was backing up, like it was almost there's nothing behind me.

2:53 It's like a wide open campground. So I'm backing up, but it's like a resistance almost, like I can tell, like it almost felt like I was hung up on something for a second. And so then I stop again and I got out and looked and there's nothing, and I'm like, what the heck, so I continued finishing backing up. At this time there was no resistance when I got back into the vehicle and I parked there, and my dogs just started freaking out again, and when I've never really good dogs like and whatnot, but they're not having it. Whatever's out there, they're not having it. And it gave me the ebgbs. So I left. I came home, and about two days later I got a call to go get ready to go to another firewatch job, and I decided I should probably clean my vehicle because it was dirty, and I vacuumed it and as I got to the back, I noticed that handprint that was on there, and I was like, that is there's no way And like I said, the only reason, the only way I can explain the like resistance as I was backing up is if almost like someone had lifted the back end of my truck that was pushing against it at the same time. I wasn't peeling me out or anything, but it was just I guess that's the only way I can put it.

4:04 But to see a handprint like that, and there was lines, and it was odd to me, but instantly in my gut and in my heart, I felt. I'm like, I know what that is due to the circumstances that I've I don't know how they say this, but I've also been kind of lucky, I will say lucky enough to maybe I'm not gonna say I've just not ran into sasquatches per se, but I've definitely been around something in the forest around here a few times. And that just leave me to believe that there's probably things elsewhere that you shouldn't be going to look for that don't want to be found, but you just run into them sometimes, or I just I really don't know how to explain it, but that picture, really, I don't know, how do you feel when you've seen the picture?

4:53 Yeah, so I'm looking at the picture right now, and there's definitely you can see fingers on the edge, but then it's it looks like a really big handprint. And also the thing I wanted to ask you is what it left behind seems to be very thick. Was it hard to clean that off? Or how did that go? I didn't want to clean it off, to be honest with you. I was so excited about it and whatnot. And then I put water on it first and it did not come off readily at all, and so it took a washing and not like a scrub or anything, but to get decent washing to get it off. And it's just I was almost excited about it, I just because I like this stuff. And yeah, it's just it was something, I will say that, And just the way the dogs were clip Now, they've been camping with me many times, We've been out in the forest around here a lot, and I basically could drive all these backgrounds with my eyes closed, and the dogs have been on them too, and they've never even since then ever had ever have what wasserk like that, So I feel like it was such a cool Definitely.

5:55 Absolutely were you when you were cleaning it and inspect? Did you actually touch the residue that was left behind before? What? I didn't? Okay, I didn't. I just I was, like I said as too, just just shocked, stunned and excited all at the same time that I think I even came running in the house and I was like, oh, but she was too busy to come out there, and let's it. I just reminded her when I showed her the picture the other day, and she was like, oh, my gosh, I remember that. Ye, I was super excited about that. Absolutely, let's see the because it was definitely some stuff was left behind on the back of your car. And yeah, would you what words would you use to try to describe what that material was even though you didn't feel it, but you could still look at it.

6:41 When it's warm weather outside, it's summertime and you go camping and into the dusty, dirty area, so you had fell down and you put your hands first, and you got muck on your hands, or not even muck. It's just really dirt. But it's a cakey kind of dirt. I guess is where I can put it in. That's why i'd explained it's cakey basically. Yeah, got Yeah, it's interesting because looking at the photo, it's almost so if you look at your hand and then you have let's so you're looking at your right hand and you've got the bottom of the hand part, it looks like it was almost like putting its hand over.

7:22 He said, Okay, if I say that the word that's in that photo the type of car, it's going to say what type of car it is. But so you know how you have the metal pathfinder sign on the back. It's almost like put its hand right over it because the bottom part of the palm is underneath the pathfinder, but then on top you can almost see it looks like a thumb print to the right, which is wild because the crazy thing is and I've talked to Cliff about this from up in the NABC the Big Feet Museum with there, Cliff Barrickman, and he was explaining to me with handprint cast how the thumb is different than ours. The thumb goes further up and closer to the other fingers in a way, which is shown in what you've got here in this photo, which is just fascinating.

8:11 And the other thing about that is that was it was still too I didn't even clean my vehicle until two days after I had driven all the way home. You would think that I kicked up a lot of dust even at that point, but that stayed prominent the whole time throughout me driving home and whatnot. It didn't blow off. It was on there. It was, like I said, there was no doubt in my mind once I've seen it. That's what that resistance was like that it just, yeah, there was no doubt to me anyway, There's no doubt. Yeah, that's fascinating, so we are. My guess is we're not telling the area because of your job. Correct, I'm not no longer working there. I actually I don't mind telling the area because I feel like maybe if I do, because like I said, I've had other things happen in that general itself, I don't. I'm just if it's okay with you, I'm just gonna say I live in basically an unquant national forest area on the outskirts area. There's a place it's the northum Quat in the southam Quat and I live on the southam Class side, and where I had been doing firewatch was the Northumpklass side.

9:17 But like I said, I had cut over the hill and there's multiple ways to go that way over the hill and whatnot. And I did take at that time defer the shroud because I just like driving up there and whatnot. But yeah, it was If people are from around this area, they'll know what I'm talking about when I say a Qorts Mountain area and when you cut over it literally is one of the highest spots on this on the hill around here. Yeah, gotcha. So we got Quartz Mountain and then because I looked up the area because I look, you had some your email, and that's around Diamond Lake right exactly, Yes, exactly, which has come up on the show multiple times, and it's some really intense stuff. The big one that comes to mind was that there was the guy from down in We were talking about prospect in Union Creek first, but then he was sharing how one of his hunting buddies had seen the sasquatch crouched and hunting elk from behind trees in that Diamond Lake erie. And I know it's the focus. It's been the focus of a few people that are trying to find out more information about Bigfoot over the years. So I'm not surprised at all that you experienced what you did. But so you were.

10:27 You're saying that you you've experienced some other weird stuff in the woods. It sounds like it's really affected you. I love it, okay, because I've not yet to be scared of it. I'm not People might think I'm silly because like, it interests me to the point I'm almost except for a couple of times, I don't want to go who. I had a friend tell me one time his grandpa was a chief around here for the kathrenk Indian tribe, and he had said that his grandpa once told him, you don't you shouldn't go looking for things that don't want to be found. And I've some about him saying that to me has completely It hasn't deterred my attention, that's for sure. But if I see or hear something, I'm not going to go chase and running after it or trying to find what that sound was, because I've had a lot of tree knocks in my lifetime that that no human could have made. There's no way that was just a regular man making that noise or tree all and stuff like that. But yeah, like the very first time that I can remember really seeing him with my eyes, I was actually in Trail, Oregon, and I was come over the mountain into Tiller, and right as you come into Tiller that way, there's a church and there's a big, old, not a huge billboard, but somewhat of a medium sized billboard in front of the church. And as my headlights hit it, I seen a huge figure standing like it was on the other side of the billboard. It towered over it, and as soon as my headlights hit it, it turned and all I could see was an elbow in a foot and I had a friend with me, and I don't say anything to him. I don't say nothing at all until

11:58 we almost got to daystreak and he was like, Okay, did you see that? And I was like, oh my gosh, what did you see? Tell me now, and he said he explained exactly what I had seen, and I was like, oh, wow, that was something, And yeah, that was pretty pretty cool too, but it's And also I lived until hear not for the past five years, and you had brought up on one of your segments about the barred owls and where I lived at in that area has extremely been taken over by bar owls and I have just recently moved from there in about two nights before I moved, And I know it doesn't have really anything to do with the Bardells, but I just found it fascinating. That was because what you said is right. People are going to be out there looking for these owls and come stumbling across something that could just verify a lot of things.

12:44 But I don't know that at the same time, because I feel like also to have some kind of invisibility cloak or something and something you can't even Yeah, it's just I hope that at some point that we're like, I want verification, you know what I mean. I just want someone say, yeah, this is absolutely real and there's no doubt about it. And even though I in my heart feel I haven't that there's no doubt about it, there's not. But just for I guess the higher up to be like, yes, this is it's not a joke, it's not a farest. It's a real thing. That would be that's the dream. But this so, this Tailler area, it's a small town. It's I think per since it's two hundred and fifty people, really small on the edge of the Quad National Forest. It's got a ranger station there, which is that's cool.

13:36 Yeah, it's a tourist attraction. They have the South of Klaff Falls up there. They have a powow up there every summer. It's the summer. It's camping, a camping dream if you're into the nature the forest during the summertime. And like I said, my whole life, I've spent a lot of time in that whole area and it's just yeah, there's some interesting stuff out there. And so just to make sure I got on the right path from what you just shared. So you had a visual of a bigfoot that was right next to a billboard next to a church. Is that right? Yeah, I see, you know it was running across It's right. It's this isn't really a town, like when I say it's a town because it has a post office all. But there's not like neighbors close together or it's people are.

14:20 Here's a house and then a little ways down there's another house. It's a forested area at all times, and it is in the mountains. It's a drive to get there. And I could see where it could have been running from the hill on the other side to go to the river and across the river or whatever. But it's just when my headlights hit it, there was no disputing that something was standing towering above the sign on the other side of it, and it had turned. And then as soon as I seemed like the elbow like it was going to run is the only way I can describe it. And then his foot kicked up and then it was gone and I didn't take my eyes off nothing, but it was into the darkness. It was there was no seeing nothing that I just kept going because they didn't know if my friend had seen it at that point. But as soon as we got into Days Creaking and said that, I was so glad he had said something. Yeah.

15:04 Absolutely, what year, end time? A year would this event? That was probably around twenty thirteen and it was springtime? Okay, yeah? How long do you think you saw it? For? Maybe two seconds? Maybe? Yeah? Yeah? Could you get a feel as to how tall it was? Because of I guess being closer. I want to say about nine eight nine to ten almost nine feet, I would yeah, probably about nine feet definitely, maybe even a little bit bigger. I couldn't see the whole head. It was just like the top of his head, and it wasn't And that's what I seen was the top of the head, and you could almost see the girth of it when it turned, and I seen the elbow.

15:49 Because I was like, that's not like I wanted to say out loud and say something. I wanted to stop, I wanted to do all these things, but I just was kind of like, no way, Yeah, Yeah, it was big definitely. Yeah. Have you ever talked to anyone else in that town about Bigfoot at all? No? But I do have a cousin that has logged in the area, and he tells a story about and that's the other Okay, let me get through this first. But he one morning they were up there getting ready to start logging, he said, and it was barely getting light outside, and he says that he's seen one crouched down behind a huge stump down down the unit and whatnot, and it got up and walked off. And he's not the type of guy that's, hey, you look at that, because he was totally in shock too. But he believes that's exactly what he seems too. He's been also been in the first his whole life. He knows the difference between a bear and something else. And then I do have a friend that lives out in out Diamond Rock, which is in the Drew area, passed the Ranger station, and she's they have a waterfall on their property. They have a large property up there and it's at the top of the hill. And she says, one evening they were going down there and she was staring at the waterfall and on the other side she seen something very tall standing there. In her mind right away, I've seen a bad befo. She cann't wait to tell me about it, and she was so excited about it and whatnot. And they're not people who would be like just like, oh, i've seen something, don't know what it is like. And

17:20 that's what she's seen. She was dedicated to that's what she seeing. I believe her. But there's other people that have been around there. I don't understand how people cannot be aware of certain things, or maybe they just aren't lucky enough to have certain things happen to them. I don't get it because they're also come from a whole line of loggers in my family, and they've been not spent so much time in the woods and they've not had anything suspicious happened to them. I just feel lucky. That's extremely lucky. And I haven't had a visual citing myself yet, but I just I can't imagine. And you just try to think, Okay, two seconds, extremely quick, but it's enough time to just to stick with you for years, right, Oh yeah, yes, So in this area, it sounds like there's other Are there other weird things that happen in the woods as well? Or would you say the main thing is probably bigfoot that you have to deal with out there?

18:21 Well, in that area. I'm gonna say, yes, there's a lot of squatchy stuff that goes on. I have another thing that happened, but I really like it if like he would be here with me to say the whole story with me and whatnot. I've contacted him and stuff, so hopefully he'll get back to me sooner. Maybe we can both do this with you at the same time. Sure, yeah, absolutely, absolutely, we can definitely definitely try to do that for sure. Have you ever heard anything happening over by the Prospect and Union Creek area? Yes, I have. And if you take the from Tiller to Trail and you cut over that way, you end up in a shady cove and then you can go to Prospect and all that. It's all. It's relatively close, but not it's driving time, but in the whole amount of the forested area, which is a big area. But yeah, it all connects. It's all. It's there. But yes, I have heard about a couple events over in that area. Yes, I even think I recently. Someone wasn't very recently, but I don't know if you know. Camus Valley is in this area too, but someone had said something. I heard a story about someone saying that they had seen them crossing the road right there. But to me, that's a busy road. But who am I to say, what, you know, what their traveling paths are or whatnot.

19:37 Absolutely a lot of the things I was hearing from that area was things from hunters where they were being harassed. Just things are getting really intense, and usually this was like west of sixty two. Okay, yeah, that seems to be a dividing line, right, And. Yeah, like I said, I've got some more stories. I just I want people here with me that have been there, so so I got more because it just seems like for just one person to have a lot of experiences when other people haven't had any. And I'm not one to judge anybody or whatnot, but I've had some exciting things happen, and I just like to have people that have been with me or what not be like, yes, this is what happened. Well, yeah, there's no problem with that, for sure. I totally get that. Yeah, would there be any other things you might be able to share at this time or should we will try to get other people on board for another time.

20:31 Then well let's try to get some get my friends get a hold of them and have them respond to me. But I do a lot of the train knocking. It is quite a phenomenon because like I've learned to look at woodpeckers or anything else that's going to make a train knock. And where I recently moved from Tiller on that property up there, the tree knocking, it wasn't constant, but it was. It was something like I said, it's not like a man made thing soever. It's definitely something very strong and very big picking up something else very big too, knock the tree with and whatnot. And so I just when people say they've heard tree knocking and whatnot, I hope that they've heard what I've heard too, because I've done a lot of looking stuff up and whatnot, and everybody seems a little different and went a little bit.

21:19 I stressed to people a lot listen for tree knocking when you're out there, I would be the first line or something to listen to for sure. So when you hear that out there, are you hearing patterns or is there usually a common thing when you hear the tree. Mostly it's an yeah, it mostly it's a knock, knock, knock, And then and then it will stop, but from the driveway when we were walking up, because we lived three miles from the two nine two nine Forest Road, and then once you get on the two nine and two nine Forest Road, you got to go all the way down to the main road. So we look, I'm just gonna say BFI area. So we're pretty locked in this area. But the first time, my friend and I and our dog were walking out the gate, We're going to go look for ragots and at the creek, and we heard the knock and I looked at him and he was like, you thinks he's counting or something. I said, I don't know.

22:10 And then my dog, at that point, had he likes his ball, and he had dropped his ball and it rolled down the hill. When he went to get it, he turned right around and came right back up. But as he came back up, then we heard another knock like up above us, across the road, and so I was like, maybe they're just letting them know that there's people down here. That's the only thing I could come up with at the time. But that was also a three knock, and then no other nothing until we came back and we had walked a good mile away from the house on the driveway, and as soon as we started coming back that we heard it again, but the second one didn't go off. It was just the same one that was down when my dog had lost his ball. Yeah, yeah, that's really interesting. You hear a lot of that, and it really does make you wonder, Okay, are the knocks happening because they're getting to a certain area, or sometimes you'll hear like they just arrived back in their area so they're gon we're going to talk about that, or maybe they're getting ready to leave, so let's maybe knocks that Hey, they're going to be gone for a while, so.

23:10 You don't really know the other right. The other odd thing about when we're living up there was it's not odd to me I noticed a lot of things, especially on our driveway because nobody ever really came to visit us or and whatnot. But and yeah, there are our elk that travels through the area and they do have a destructive pattern as they go through the trees and whatnot. But it was almost too much of it at times for it to be elk. When you're driving down our driveway to the house and whatnot. It was there'd be spots that I'd be like, what just came through here? Because it's not just it couldn't just be elk. Just the way the trees were being over, it's they wouldn't be like a little tree, it's a good, decent growing starting to grow, big tree that would just be knocked over. Or and I'll always look at the splits and how those things are, and it's this whole area is it's I just I don't know if nobody's maybe nobody's into it, like we are something and don't want to doesn't want to go out there and looking, but I would. I've always wanted to just pick a general area and sit there.

24:07 Even though we lived where we lived, I think a lot of times we were a little bit too busy to be paying attention to other things. But I do feel like a lot of times they're right around us completely. Yeah, it sounds like it. So you're saying that on the property, you were seeing a lot of trees that were arched over. Yes, also, and keep it mind, I have walked there's forty two acres out there, and we've walked every single into that place up through the trees. And if there's five pond ponds on the property that are sporadically put out all the way there's our spring was up there. So we've walked a lot all over this area. And yeah, but when I would notice the most is when we were driving down the driveway if something was to the way, I see it was come up from one side of the road and cross the road and make a trail going up the other way. I know Elvis all run together, but not really in a formal line or anything. But whatever comes through the woods right there is it's making it.

25:04 It's going and it's pulling trees over and it's doing cool things. And I've never seen any elk poop out it because we looked and stuff. But yes, and at one time I had taken pictures of all of these things. And I'm not really happy with Google right now because I've just really lost a thousands of pictures. Yeah, terrible, Yes, it is. Not happy as well. When I was up in Mount Hood this year, researcher took me to this area and it was do you have any It looks like something has grabbed a hold of a tree and just like twisted and broken it. But it's it's twisted over slash.

25:44 It's hard to explain, but I think you. Might know what I know exactly what you're talking. It's almost like they like are making a woven type area. Yeah, yes, there's a lot of that out there. Any are you seeing footprints in the area at all? Do you think? I'm not sure because there's things that have happened that I'm like that is definitely a footprint, but anything like that, I don't know how they can't leave feet prints. But yeah, there's been a couple definite things that I wish that I would have went back to and at least done something with it instead of just taking a picture that ends up losh. But yeah, definitely okay, And they're big strides. That's pretty cool. How long strides would you.

26:24 Estimate depending on how tall they are, If they're an eight nine ten foot creature that are going to take a probably a four foot three four or five maybe three four five foot stride maybe, depending I don't I think I'm not really sure. God, Now, the place you guys were staying in on the property, would there ever be any weird things that would start happening around it? Something hitting the side or one day you get out and you say, oh, hey, what's this on the ground? Was this left here? Why is this animal? Doesn't happen well, stuff like that. So I had we had to walk out of there a few times and whatnot. And yeah, but we'd seen like a bobcat skull obviously something that had been eating on the head. But I don't for something tells me like, I'm not really I don't really think they're eating. I don't know what they eat. But I do have to say the two nights before we were moving from there, killing me back up real quick. When we lived there for five years, and I had a couple of friends that had lost their home and stuff like that, and they needed a place to store some stuff. So they came.

27:30 They put up a shed and they had their stuff in there. And this was about a year and a half after we had moved there. And they came one evening to put stuff in there, and we had just say dinner and we're getting ready to go to bed, and we were down it was probably about a half a mile from the front of the gate is where we were staying on a trailer. And they said when they left that night, what happened was in the following day when we got down to where they were, my friend said, did you hear that last night? And we were like, no, what are you talking about? And he was really just shaking about it, because in his eyes, he's the meanest and the bad thing in the forest and he's out there that's just how he is, because he's not going to let himself be scared of anything. But he started telling us the story about the sound that he heard. He's all, it wasn't it was mad, whatever it was, and he's on, I've been out here a lot. I know bears, I know cougars, and in my mind, I'm thinking cougars make all kinds of sounds, and I have heard a bear out there roar and stuff like that before. And he was like, it's nothing like that. And so I can't really put it into details what he said, because I still can't. Because when we heard it two nights before we were moving leaving there, when I looked at my boyfriend, I said, okay, so what was that? And whatever it was, it made such a sound and it was not a cat. It couldn't have been. It was not a cat. And the way that it was something big and angry and letting us know it was right there is what it was doing.

28:47 And there's a rock pit on this property, and that's where we both looked up towards, and it was wintertime. The ponds up there were frozen, because right before that we had been throwing rocks with the frozen waters, thinking how cool it sounded when the rocks hit off of the heir and whatnot. And then so the thing roared or was yelled at us or something, and when I looked at my boyfriend, I said, so, what was that, and he was like, I'm not right fully sure. And then it did it again, and he said, get the dogs in the house, and I'm like wanting to stand there because I'm expecting something big just to step out, or trees to start moving or something to happen. And nothing happened. And then on the third time, we both ran in the house also and we're standing there and it did it one more time, and then we looked out there all night long. We didn't from our window.

29:31 We didn't want to go back out because we're not I've been all over that place, like I said, all times of the day and night, not worrying about nothing. When something's out there, or when it's too quiet and you get the evgbi's and okay it's time to go in and stuff like that. But this was it was he was something. So then when I seen my friend a couple of days after that, I said, I was telling him I think I heard what you heard, and we both have the same description. It was angry. It was not a bear, or it couldn't have been a bear, or we hope maybe we hoped it was a bear, but we just it was unexplainable. Well that's basically what it was. Gotcha and did this happen? Did this all happen after you had the experience near Diamond Lake that area, or yes, yeah.

30:11 Okay, yes, all of the things that have happened after that. I feel also, like I was told one time, like once you have an encounter, you're more likely to have more than you are not too And that's why I feel like I'm blessed to have these things happen, because people in organ in their whole lives have not had anything out of the ordinary ever happened, or that they weren't paying attention to. So I feel blessed, and I do feel like if you do have an encounter, whether it's you know of sasquatch nature or anything else, you are more likely to have more. No, I agree with you. I think there's a few different ways to look at that. There's a side that thinks, okay, it followed me home, or there's another side, like with doctor Siemi and Hine, where you know you're in an area where then and you get open up to things and then you just you're aware of this stuff. Yes, I don't know if there's a right or wrong way to look at that yet. But so you guys don't live there anymore. You are out of there.

31:16 We are. But I've even joked and made the I want to go back, and we can go back. It's just we needed to come to town this winter because it's rough out there during the winter times and whatnot. It's and if you're not we've been made it out there the last five years. I just have grand babies now I need to spend some time in town with them. Yeah, to get it. Yeah, absolutely that whoever is going to, whoever is on that property is probably having stuff happen. I would guess. So you're in town, so definitely nothing happened happening, I would imagine not. In town though exactly exactly. Yeah, have you ever heard of any weird stories that have happened over by Creator Lake.

31:57 Miss, Like, I think I've heard about Okay, so yeah, but I can't really just I know there was a missing person's story maybe, and I think that also I had heard a story of someone saying they were walking on one of the trails and they felt like they were being followed or watched or something and whatnot, And a couple of times after turning around, they in their mind that they were seeing a sasquatch hiding behind a tree, almost like he would look out and they would like set back because they're like trying to make sure it's not a bear or something, and then step forward and it would peek its head out. I do remember hearing that story my friend who told me about that you don't go and find things that don't want to be found. He their family is very involved in the tribal community and whatnot, and when he was younger, they were also in the Tiller area or Drew area actually, and he says at one point time the dogs were barking at night time. He got up and he's seen something running down the driveway. He said it was huge, it was running really fast, and he just stood there in shock.

32:55 He was a young kid. And then I know that his grandpa. The next day, his grandpa and whoever his grandpa had with him went and took plaster plaster or feet molds or however that works, of that of the footprint, And I don't know whatever became of that. I could probably try to get ahold of him and see what happened with that. Yeah. So yeah, that's really interesting because they were their Native American background. Yes, but yes, that's something I don't think I've ever heard that where usually that's the thing you hear that from researchers, where yeah, let's go cast the print, but it's it's wiring. Yeah, exactly. So I feel like his grandpa, I mean, he had some knowledge that nobody got to really tap into before he passed away and stuff like that. But the things that I've been told from his grandson, it makes sense. It just you know, something here knew something.

33:43 Otherwise he wouldn't just go out and get somebody that could come plaster the footprint, like he knew something had happened. Yeah, I bet there was. There is quite the story there potentially. Yeah, like in this this, Yeah, this is an area where I'm hearing more about it. But yeah, as I said said earlier, I usually hang out up in Oak Ridge and up there's so much going on, but down in this that's what I've heard. There definitely seems to connecting this Tiller and Drew and then over Union Creek and Prospect and. It just yeah, even all the way to Diamond Lake. Yeah, it's all connected. I would definitely say so, which of course is probably because of the cascades that run right up Oh yes, right up through it. Oh, just because you live down in this area. Have you heard anything about over in the Wolf Creek area?

34:33 Not so much sasquatchy stuff, but other stuff. Yeah, more paranormal type activity in that direction. Yeah. Yeah, so the stories you hear of I think there's like a haunted hotel, and you usually hear yeah. I stayed there, you have, okay, yeah, oh yeah, there's even a talent that's called Golden in the paranormal part of it. But yeah, the town that's called Golden and it's a pretty hot spot for paranormal activity. Is it like a ghost town. Yeah. Yeah, okay, very cool, Very cool, Carisa, this has been a very interesting conversation. I don't think I've ever heard anything about Tiller and Drew, so I'm glad that we were able to talk. Hopefully we'll be able to maybe get something set up for the future when you're able to have your some of your friends on to be able to share stories together, which I think would be great.

35:27 That's always awesome when that happens. But I want to make sure that you're able to share everything that you would be able to share on the show this time. I'm in right now. I definitely want to get my friends. I'll be on them, don't worry about that. Yeah, awesome, very good. Thank you so much for coming on and for spending some time today talking to us about. This area of Oregon, and thank you for having me. Before we wrap this episode, I want to say something directly to a very specific group of listeners. If you're in the military, any branch or forces, and if you've seen something that no one can explain, or if you're a National Park ranger or forestry worker who's been told to stay quiet, or if you're a pilot who's seen something strange down on the ground, or if you're with the FBI a federal agency, or working intelligence and you stumbled upon something you're not allowed to talk about. And if you're a firefighter, paramedic, or search and rescue responder who's heard screams or found tracks that didn't make sense.

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