Witnesses Encounter Massive Bigfoot in Missouri Forest and Walk Away Forever Changed

0:00 You're listening to Bigfoot Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring you first hand encounters from people who say they've seen something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere, and each one leaves us with more questions than answers. These are the voices of the people who've lived it. So settle in because today you'll hear another account that just might change the way you see the woods forever. So stay with us, all right, Bigfoot Society. I've got the privilege of talking to Marianne's Abelle today. How are you doing today, Marianne, I'm great, How are you doing awesome?

0:41 A few things that listeners will want to know about you right off the bat. You are a BFROO investigator and you lead the expeditions in the states of Missouri, Arkansas, in Oklahoma. You're also the founder of the Ozark Mountain Bigfoot Conference in Springfield, Missouri. You lead a private Bigfoot expedition with that conference as well. And you are also on the Bigfoot wild Man in Booger's podcast show on YouTube. But welcome to the show, Marian. You know, when I have researchers on, I always like to start with, what was it that first got you, you know, into the field of bigfoot? What was it that that sucks you in there?

1:24 Exactly? Well, as a little kid, I griven a very small town and in the summertime, when it was just ungodly hot, I would go with my mother. She worked in town, and there was a library across the street from where she worked, and I would go spend my afternoons in the library because it was cool, air conditioned. And you know, I started out with some of the books on bigfoot, nessy and just had an interest in anything weird and have had that for forever. And you know, the interest was there when I was younger, and then as you know, as I got older in life happens, you know, you kind of get away from it and then got back to watching you know, Monster Quest and things like that. You know, that just sucked me back into it. And I was at work one day and all the girls that I worked with knew, you know, oh, she likes everything weird, you know. And one of the girls had come in and said, my husband was listening to the police scanner last night and there was a bigfoot sighting in the county they lived in. And what you know, because at this point in time, I still thought, you know, West Coast primarily was you know, sure didn't think they were, you know, that close to us. And she's like, yeah, go home and go look up, you know, go look up on the BFRO and which i'd been

2:55 on that before, but I guess I just didn't wasn't paying that much attention. And I was on it and I got to looking and I found the expeditions and I decided, Okay, that's what I want to go do. And so I told my husband, We're going to go bigfoot, honey, and he's like, we're going to do? What? Where are we going and what are we doing. Took a little bit of talking, and you know, I convinced him, and so twenty nineteen we signed up to go on our first expedition. And you know, he told everybody we were camping. That's all he would tell him. He would tell them what we were really doing. You know, my sons were not happy that I was going to the woods with forty people. I didn't know. They thought I'd lost my mind.

3:43 You know, they still sometimes think I've lost my mind, but you know that's just you know, that's mom. But we were pulling into the camp, the camping area, and I looked at my husband. I said, this is either going to be the greatest thing we've ever done, or it's going to be the worst thing. And we're going to know about five minutes in, you know, and we kind of laughed about it. And I have made some of the best friends, you know, from that very first expedition. There's still people that come and go and we see them all the time. We have traveled with them. You know, it's like we built another family through this. But yeah, we went to the expedition and first night out we were so they kept all the new people kind of together, and the gentleman that was leading the expedition took us all out. We've been out a good couple of hours and we met up with the other groups and the area that we were in, we were able to divide up again into our smaller groups and go on out again.

4:48 And we had walked down the road and we got down the road a little ways and he was like, let's just you know, there was an old logging road. We walked off onto it and just off into the wood right there, and he's like, let's just sit down and listen. So there was ten of us and we all sat down. My husband was leaning up against a tree, but we were all kind of in a circle and we were sitting there and there was a little bit of conversation going on. I am sitting next to this young lady who has Camo head to toe, and she like pulls her hoodie up and she just you know, scrunches down. She's going to take a nap. And I'm I'm kind of got tickled because I kept looking at her and thinking, what you know, Camo your head to tell Camo why you know. And then I look back and it's like, Okay, if I didn't know she was there, I would walk right past her. So then I'm like, okay, okay, I guess I can't really laugh at Camo. It really works.

5:48 But there was a conversation this whole time with some of the gentlemen off to the right hand side, discussing where everybody was sitting, and they were having this discussion. They were cam and you know, they came up well Okay, there's ten of us, but at this point they there's three of these gentlemen that jump up and move in an opposite direction from us. And there was something that had came in, and we assume it came in because it was behind a bush. It jumps up, rolls over the berm, and runs away. It had been within a few feet of some of us. And so we're all standing and facing this direction now because of all the commotion that's gone on, and they're discussing, you know, what they've seen, what happened, you know, and we're all just kind of listening. And behind my husband and I and there was another young lady standing next to us. You could hear something loud. It sounds like when you take your hand and slap the side of your leg, but much larger. That happened a couple of times, and we all kind of looked at each other, acknowledging that we had You heard that, Yeah, I heard that, And so we around and I took a I don't know about four or five steps in that direction. At that point, about twenty five yards out something very large upright, and Harry steps out from behind the tree. And now it was a full moon, so you couldn't see the features

7:19 on the face because the moon was right overhead, but you could tell that it was large, broad, Harry, you know all these things. And so at this point, it's not making any it's not trying to hide. It wants to be seen. You know. It's on one side of the tree. It steps to the other side of the tree. So at this point, my husband goes and gets the gentleman that's leading the expedition, and he's still so worked up over what we had just experienced that we can't really get him to focus and look at what we're talking about. And he's having a hard time with it.

7:59 And we started to hear movement to the other side out there. Well, at this point that kind of, like I said, he's already stirred up, he's excited. At this point, he's decided we're going to be surrounded, that we're going to leave, and I'm like, no, this is what we came for, right, this is what we're looking for. This we're supposed to be out here. Well, basically I was told if I didn't didn't come along willingly, I was gonna be picked up and carried out the woods. Now this is my first expedition, so I'm. Trying it was your husband, right, No, oh, no. My husband knows better than just say things to me like that. So I was behaving because, like I said, first expedition, first night, I don't know these people. So I begrudgingly left the woods. And as we're walking out, you can hear it. It's following us. It's like lelling us out of the woods. So we get out onto the road.

9:05 It was a paved road, and we're walking back to one of the other groups and one of the gentlemen is standing in the road and he's thirmy and he says, hey, you guys left somebody down there. We started We're like, no, we didn't know, we didn't we know exactly what that is. And he was like what, you know, he wasn't catching up with what we were talking about. He was able to get enough of the trees and things and see where the head of this was at to where they could go back the next day in the daylight, and they decided that, you know, this thing was approximately seven and a half feet tall because of one of the limbs that they were able to compare it to. So when we went back to that area the next day.

9:53 As we're walking in, there's a little mud hole and my husband found a track. Now it wasn't huge, it was a barefoot track in October in the middle of the woods, so, you know, it was kind of you could it was hard to cast because it was in a mudhole. There was still water in it. I believe someone did cast it, but it just it really didn't turn out. We have pictures of it, but we weren't able to cast it. So when we walked back over to the area that we were sitting, there was a little berm on one side of it that was a couple of feet tall, and when you would stand on that and look at where we'd been sitting, that area was completely matted down. And it was an area that was probably ten twelve foot square circle, completely matted down. Now, if you turned around and looked off the other side of the berm, there's all these little shrubs or not shrubs, little saplings all through the forest everywhere else except right there.

10:56 So we started to kind of wonder was that where they would bed down? Did we walk into where they normally sleep, you know, And so then we start to talk about did we walk in and there was one sitting there and it just froze and let us all sit down. Did it come in behind us? You know? But there was a small one in there, and when the guys stood up and moved toward it is when it rolled over the burm and took off. Good. Yeah, that was my first night on my first expedition ever. And I said, that's it. I'm hooked. I'm doing this till I can't do it anymore.

11:36 I can't imagine that. I mean, the first time going out and you have you have a sighting, and how far away would you would you say it was? Probably might have been. Twenty five yards. I mean that was the and I think that was Mama. The baby was that was in the circle with us, probably was only fifteen feet away from us, and it was closer to the people on the other side. So a very close first encounter. Yeah, absolutely, I mean that's about a length of a tennis court. It's really not too far at all. Now I know that. Of course, you know BFR expeditions, we cannot talk about like where it is specifically. Are you able to share the state that that happened in or oh, yeah, that was in Missouri.

12:27 It was in the south central Missouri. Yeah, sure, yep, that makes total sense. Yeah, because it is wild and wild and wild down there from what I hear. I'm from central Iowa. I have not made it down to that area of Missouri yet to do any big Foot stuff, but hopefully in the future I will because you know, just talking to my friend Miguel, there's some wild stuff that happens down there. We don't have to be you know, you hear these people talk about, oh you got to go so many miles out and be this deep, not down here. You know, you really don't, you know, they're they're surprisingly there are things that happened sometimes on the outside of some of the towns, so you know, you just have to have the right conditions. You need to have running water and food and cover, and they're there.

13:26 H absolutely. So you're hooked after this? Did that set you then on a course where it's like, Okay, I got to come back to one of these right away, or or what was your life like after you had this experience on the first expedition. Well, yeah, if I could have found another one to go on to the next week, and I all about it at that point, in time, there was only like one a year in Missouri. We did end up we went to Kentucky a couple of times and you know that was very interesting, went out there with with that, and then ended up in Oklahoma on a private, private expedition.

14:07 So yeah, any chance that you know, we got to go somewhere, we went, you know, because it just for one thing, I mean, it's camping. You can't beat camping. And then you get to go out and you know, run around in the woods in the dark. I mean, yeah, it can get pretty wild, for sure. It's just it's it never fails that makes me how crazy it is. Speaking from experience, like going out to different places. So you've done multiple expeditions where you're a member over the years. Have you been fortunate enough to have any other Class A or close encounters or was that first one the closest you're able to get? Do you think.

14:55 We've had some other stuff go on the first year that we camped on the private expedition that I do with my conference with the Ozark Mountain Bigfoot Conference. So we have some private property that the landowner lets us take some people to and what we do is immediately after the conference. We take them out there and we set up and we camp for you know, three or four days. The landowner has had, you know, things happen ever since he's moved into this property. And the first year that we camped, the very last night there was a little storm that rolled in and it was sheer chaos for about fifteen twenty minutes in camp. You know, people run around trying to hold the tents down, and it was just this microburst type of thing and sheer chaos.

15:47 Everybody survived it. You know, some people were wet, but everybody pretty much survived this, and everything comes back down. Everybody kind of turns in for the evening and one of the girls that was there was she was actually a paranormal researcher. She had decided to sleep in her car and not get back in the tent. The other two ladies were in the tent, but she got in the car. Her car was actually parked in between her tent and my and my husband's tent, and she said, about three point thirty four o'clock in the morning, she kept hearing this tink tink tink, like something was tapping, and so she finally opened her eyes and got her bearings and she said she saw something move. Well, it was actually right behind our tent, and she said she could see, you know, head and shoulders behind our tent, and our tent is like six feet tall, so she could see it moving around. And she will say, I didn't know what to do. I'm a paranormal, you know.

16:53 She goes, I didn't know if I'm supposed to take pictures. She's like, I didn't know if I took a picture if it would charge my vehicle. She just had no clue what to do, so she just covered her head up, went big to s. So the next morning I had gotten up been out. My husband, in passing says something too, I think I think we had something around the tent last night. And I'm not paying a whole lot of attention at that point, and then I start to hear other people talking about things. So I go back to him like, Okay, what do you mean, you know, explain and he's like, well, I woke up and I could hear, you know, something moving around on It was basically on his side of the tent. I said, what time was this?

17:42 And he's telling me, Well, then she comes over after he's told me that she starts telling me what she's seen and her timeline in his time, because they both happened to look at their phones was the same time. And then we get the people in the tent on down from us, like five minutes later. They had stuff going on. And the nice thing about all this was everybody was they looked at their phones or their watches. So we had a timeline. And so I got Shane Carpenter, he's a good friend of mine, got him up and he tracks, and I said, okay, we've got we've got some tracks out here, and we had to We thought we were going to have to tie Daniel Perez to one of the tents because he was wanting to run out there and get into the tracks. Yes, he was in his mind. We're like, you are not going in there until the tracker goes in there, right, And so we got him calmed down and Shane was able. He was able to go through because it was really tall grass and find the compression tracks and track this thing.

18:54 It had done a complete circle around the whole camping area and been in and around everybody's tent that night. So yeah, you know, we've had them come right up. They like to come up on us in that area. They don't vocalize a lot out there, but they will come up and walk right through, you know, up amongst the tents and things like that, and just kind of mess around. It was last year that we were out there that we were getting a thermal hit on one and it wasn't real big. It was only about five feet tall, and we kept getting like the head and shoulders catching it going through the woods type of thing.

19:42 But there's been multiple times when we've had them not that far from us, and that we know of. I mean, who knows about the times that we don't. We were in a private camping area, a private campground a few years ago, and my husband and I have a and little retro vintage camper and it has a window above the sleeping area that's about at least seven feet high. And we were in that one night and there was like one street light in that campground and it was kind of shining in the camper. And I woke up in the middle of the night and the campers completely dark, and I thought, that's kind of weird. It was lit up when we went to bed, you know, and I'm thinking about it, you know, I'm like, well, did that light go out? You know, and I'm contemplating getting up, but it's like every movement you make in that little thing, the thing just squeaks right, and I'm like, I'm not moving, I'm just gonna stay put. And about that time, whatever was in front of my window moved away and the light was back. And so the next morning I didn't tell my husband and say, hey, come here, and I said, how high is this this window? And he's six feet tall and it was, you know, a good foot over his head and that was the bottom of the window.

21:05 It's not a very big window, you know, just one of those little tiny windows, but there had been something out there blocking the light. So they were standing right on the other side of the campers. So, I mean, we've had, yeah, we've had a lot of things like that go on over the years. We've had one we were sitting one evening we had broken off. We've got several groups and going in different areas and we stayed in the central area and we just sat there. We were in chairs, we were just sitting there and we didn't have anything go on for like two hours, complete silence. Call everybody back in they're making their way back to us. We've kind of picked our chairs up, we're milling around waiting for everybody to come back in, and we get this pristine whoop that comes at us, and it sounded just like one of the guys, and we kept saying, why is he why would he stop make that? You know, it didn't make sense to us, and it wasn't very far from us. It was just right there on the hill, right where we were at. So when that guy gets back, we're like, why did you do that? And he's like, I didn't. He said, if you go down and look at the road I was on, he goes, I couldn't have stopped my truck and got out, because he said I'd had to roll all the way to the bottom and started again. So it was like it knew we were leaving, and you know kind of like, okay, they're headed out.

22:30 It'll be clear in a minute, right, Which is I mean, that's a pattern that you hear from other researchers as well, and I'm thinking specifically of like the Olympic Project guys. They call that out quite a bit, where you know they'll hear a vocalization or a would knock when they're arriving out of area or when they're leaving. And I think probably many other researchers have experienced that as well. That's why I always start, you know, my recorder up when I'm getting to the campsite that I go to and just in case you capture something. But you know, talking about the Ozark Mountain Bigfoot Conference, can you share a little bit more about what kind of things you guys are doing during that conference.

23:15 Well, so we do, you know, one day of conference, and we try to bring people in who are are more science driven, you know that can teach people. We had a gentleman, David Zagan came this year and he actually works you know in the Atlanta area and he you know, he's a forensics officer and so he was you know, he's talking about all those things that you the correct way to do things. And then we go and camp directly after. I mean, we get done Saturday afternoon and we basically have a big caravan out to this property and everybody sets up and we are you know, we're out there through Tuesday and when we're on premise, you know, we're we're doing night ops out there. But we're also like David did a casting class and in several different soil mediums. You know, he was showing how you would get something if it was just like a sandy print, and then you know, in a rocky one, and just he was showing people different ways. And it's the little trip to tips that he had, like he'll stand there and shake that bag forever and talk, you know, and you're thinking he's just talking, and he said, I know, you think I'm just talking. He said, but I'm looking at this and as long as I still have air bubbles coming to the top, he goes, it's not ready, you know, and he was different things like that. I

24:46 brought him back for my BFRO expedition at the end of October, and you know he's teaching again and he's teaching how to, you know, to pour and not lose like if you had dermal ridges, you know, you want to pour so that you can get those right. And so he's showing how to pour on the side to where it continually pours on itself and it gradually then moves out into the print and it doesn't You're able to collect everything that way because it's not an abtrusive way of pouring, because some people just pour it all over the bottom and that can sometimes damage those those dermo bridges and things like that, as where if you pour it on the side and you just let it creep in itself, it's less likely to damage any of that.

25:37 But like, we bring people in like that that teach that kind of stuff, and I do the same thing on my expeditions. I always have a speaker. I always have a speaker on my expeditions that can teach, you know, share things that kind of stuff, because that's what we're all about, you know. We want to teach people about these things. We want to share with them. We want to teach them if you go out on your own, you know, how do you pour a cast if you happen to come across a print? How do you collect evidence correctly if you come across hairs or scat or whatever? You know. This year, we're getting ready to start teaching how to use some tech because a lot of people don't know how to do that. And our mutual friend Levi is going to be doing that, you know, yeah right he is. Levi's my tech guy and and you know, so he's going to teach you know, every every one of these. First of all, when before we give people this tech to take out, we're going to teach them how to use it. You know, that seems to be something because everybody's got a different piece. Well, if we have six of these and we can pass it out to the group, you know, and show these people how to use it, then when we come back, everybody's had the same piece of tech and knows how to use it.

27:08 So that's that's something that we're going to implement on our expeditions this year, and we'll do the same thing at the conference because the conference in camp out is a lot like the expeditions, you know, it's just we stay in one place on the property because a lot of the times we don't have to go anywhere. They will just come to us, and the speakers usually go out and camp with us. So the people that camp actually get three days with the speakers to spend time out on the trail with them or in the camp talking or just whatever. And you know, we feed them, we take care of them. I mean, it's the whole thing.

27:48 You know, we try to meet every need out there. That's awesome. So when is the next one of that going to. Be It will be October the third, and it's at Relics Events Center in Springfield, Missouri. Cool. Yes, that's really cool. I think that's a great model too for you know, I conference slash camp out. I think that's that's really cool. There's a few few other people that are starting to do that as well. And let's see, I think of Olympic Strange Days up in Washington do something very similar to that. And then Randy down in Tennessee is starting to do that starting in twenty twenty six with his Cryptid camp out. And you know, which is is a learning time, but it's also like you're you're able to get into the field with and get access to, as you said, you know, these speakers and learn and get that that bond that you can't really get that connection on over the internet.

29:02 You know, really, I've said this so many times. At the end of the day, you know, you have to get out there in the field because once you do, it's going to really open up for you. You'll understand things in a different way that you can't understand if you're just reading books or talking to people on Facebook groups or you know, blah blah blah, and like you get out there and you're like, oh my goodness, this is what it's like when something responds to me, you know, after I do a wood knock or something. It's just it's it's you can't put it in words right now. I was going to bring up Levi later, which is now, I'm glad you already did so. So you have come up on the show before. When I had Levi last on I Believe, and he shared about we kind of talked about the expedition. I would be are you comfortable do you mind sharing your your viewpoint of what happened?

30:10 Which expedition we tell you he's been on about four or five? Oh has he? Oh my goodness, Okay, he talking about. The very first one where we had the UAP. I'm talking more about the one where he has a device which we're not going to name. Oh yeah, I think that might might be an interesting story. Yeah, he has, like you said, he has this little device. He calls it his phone phone call. He's going to make a phone call. And we talked about it a little bit and I said, well, sure, try it, you know, and he had done it a little bit and then he comes back over to me the first time. He's like, okay, I need help. It's okay, what do you need help with?

30:58 And he's like, I need to be to do this. But he's like, he has these shooting muffs that he's tweaked a little bit, right, and he's like, I want you to put these on, and I want you to stand over here while I'm doing this. And I said, okay, I'm you know, I'm gay. Why not? And he goes, now, if you hear anything, you know, you tell me. And I said, okay. So I have these shooting muffs on and I'm pointed in one direction and there's another lady with me. She's standing like right behind me. Now she doesn't have any of them on, and he's off down the road, you know, doing his phone call right And as he's doing this, there is this voice that comes out of the woods at me that is like boom, that's that's what it says. At the same time, there's this little tiny green light that shows up for a split second, and I'm squealing did you hear that? Did you hear that? And the lady that's behind me, she's like, no, I don't have the muffs on. I didn't hear anything, right, And I'm looking at her and I'm like, I've taken him off and I'm just standing there, going you didn't hear that. She's like, I did not hear that, and I so leve I comes back at this point, he goes, what happened? What happened? And so I'm telling him. He's like, interesting, you know, that's how you get out of him, you know, And I'm like, well, but what was that? And he goes, I don't know, you know, but yeah, that was the

32:28 very first time he ever did it. That was the the you know, what happened to us? So, yeah, that's that's that's pretty cool. Is that the weirdest thing that's ever happened to you on an expedition public or private? At this point? No, yeah, because that very same expedition we ended up chasing a UAP for two hours. You know, that was the first time we've ever really had that. We've had it expeditions where we've had orbs, you know, multiple states, multiple orbs. So that's that's not that big of a deal. That almost has gotten to the point where it's almost we don't get that excited about it anymore.

33:18 I guess I guess that's bad, but we haven't happened so much that it. But the weirdest thing I think so far that happened to us happened back in September and we were on an expedition in Arkansas. Now we'd never been in this area, you know, and we were out one night and one of the gentlemen, you know, he's got his flair, and he keeps looking at something and it's just him and I standing in the road at this point. The other people are, you know, twenty five thirty feet away from us, back at the trucks, and he finally says, I'm going to walk closer to this.

33:58 He goes, there, I'm getting a faint heat signature up on this tree. And I said okay, And so he walks up there a little ways and he stops and he comes back and he's stands there and he goes, I can't go back and say this in front of everybody, and I said, what what what do why? You know? He goes it looked like a fairy and I said, what do you Okay, well, wait, what do you mean? He goes it had almost the butterfly shaped wings, and he goes it looked like it had a body, and he goes, it was not a hot hot heat signature. He goes, but he goes, you could see that it was warmer than the tree. And he goes, I didn't really want to go any closer to it, because he said, I've never seen anything like that. Says okay, So he really doesn't talk about it a whole lot. I mean a little bit. You know, we kind of skimmed over it the next morning debriefing. Friday night, we're in camp because that area that we were at we didn't have to leave camp. They were coming in and throwing rocks at the Yeah, they were just yeah, I think we had juveniles and they were having fun with us, you know.

35:18 But Friday, we've got we're sitting in and we were kind of like it was a very small camp, private campground. There's a couple of cabins, and you know, we were all over the place, so people were pointed in different directions, you know, using their thermals and their flickers and all that kind of stuff. And he got it again in the campground that night and he's like, what is this. He goes, it's the same same stuff, right, And we were talking about it a little bit. Well, then there was a lady at the other end of the campground that comes in. She goes, I got the weirdest thing.

35:59 She got it too, oh man, really right. So then Saturday, the landowner she had invited a couple of the locals over and they're telling us their stories. And it was a husband and wife and they ride ATV's out there a lot, especially at night, and he's telling us all these stories and then he looks at his wife, who's she's like four feet tall. I mean, she's a little bitty thing. Right. He's like, now you tell her the weird stuff. And I'm like okay, And so she's like looking at me and I'm like tell me. He's already said it. You got to tell me now. She's like we were like driving down this trail, you know, and she's like, all of a sudden, something flies in front of us. She goes, and it was like time stood still, everything stopped, and she goes, it looked like a fairy.

36:53 It had the wings, it had the body. She goes, it had a face, and it had Yeah. And the gentleman that had got it, he's looking at me like because we didn't say anything about that to anybody outside of our group, right, and these people just start talking about it, and we're just we're looking at him and they're like what and he starts telling him what he's you know that we've gotten that, and they're like, thank god, somebody else has seen that. We thought they were losing our minds. They wouldn't even talk about it. She's like, it felt like everything stopped. They saw it. It goes on, they keep going going down. She said, they didn't talk about it for like thirty minutes, you know, which I've heard people that happens to him. You know, they just can't process what they've seen for a little while. But yeah, that was We have never had anything like that happen before.

37:50 That is wild. Was that a bfroro or a private one? No, that was a bfro one. Wow. Really, oh my goodness, just incredible that they actually he saw it too, not with a thermal man. That that is That is wild wild stuff. I mean, I'm trying to Arkansas has some weird stuff come out of it. I mean it does. I was just looking at my map and like it. One of the weirdest things I've ever been told is at a mina, Arkansas, where this lady was sitting in a van and there had been like bigfoot activity outside and then all of a sudden he looks over in the van and like a white bigfoot is in the van with her, and then like blinks out, and I'm like, oh my goodness, what is going on down in Arkansas? That is wild? Wild stuff?

38:42 It is it is. We were just in Fouc last weekend. Oh yeah, we went camping and yeah, that that's a wild place down there. I mean, you know, it's like I think Missouri's wild, and then you head down there and go, oh okay, that's that's different. Or lambage in the lakes. That's oh really. Oh yeah, we were back there. We went down there in September. We were invited to a private a private outing, and we had a local gentleman who kind of decided he was going to be our tour guide, right, and he and he investigates down there, him and his partner down there like every other weekend, and he was taking us into places where the grass was higher than the cab of the truck. And Levi's in the back seat and I'm like, Levi, there's raptors in that grass. And he's like, oh, there's just more stuff to worry about.

39:35 You know. But yeah, as we're driving through it, I'm rolling the window up because I'm like, yeah, no, no. But we had a very weird experience there. He had taken us to this area where he says that they have a lot of activity. And he said, you know, we were there at the right time of the night. Normally the coyotes come in start, you know, just raising cane. There's something else he doesn't know. Apparently there are wolves down there. I did not know this. And then something comes in and shuts everything up right, So we're expecting to have just all kinds of stuff go on. And we're standing right there at the lake and it's on a boat launch and I don't know who was the person that realized it, but we're watching the water lap and we can't hear it. I'm right, wait a minute, that's that's weird because you can see it, but you can't hear it.

40:37 So then we get to looking and we can see the boats. There's boats on the lake. We can't hear those. And Levi was trying to do his phone call. It wasn't going anywhere. Oh you had that Levi with you? Okay, oh that everywhere with me? That's sorry, go ahead, I just made that connection. Yeah, no, that Yeah, when I say Levi, it's that way. Okay, same guy, Yeah, okay, one. Yeah. I mean, it was just the weirdest thing out there. It was like we were in a sound bubble because there was a little cove and there was a peninsula across from us, and there was a deer over them.

41:21 We were making all kinds of noise. He never even looked up at us. He wasn't hearing us. He didn't know we were there, and so yeah, it was like nothing. It was just we were in this bubble of no sound. And I mean we could see the boats, we couldn't hear them. You know, we should have been able to hear them, they were that close to us. So yeah, we were like, okay, that's weird. So we got in the track and we took off and we're headed in deep in there, and we're headed to this cemetery and Levi's in the back seat with his shooting muffs on and he's got his head stuck out the window, and you hear it as plain as day a bell. It dinged one time and you could hear it over the truck with the windows down, and he's losing his mind.

42:13 Did you all hear that? And we're like, yeah, we could even hear it. And so when we got to the cemetery, we there was a truck ahead of us. We're like, did you guys hear that bell? And they were like, yes, that was the weirdest thing, just one one time, middle of nowhere, and we get to the cemetery and there's there's a light, you know, and they're trying to figure out what that is. At one point, they're shining the lights in the cemetery and they go past something and I redirect them back and I'm like, right there, what is that? And the guy's like, that's a stump. I said, no, that's not a stump. And so he starts cause he's got a really high powered flashlight and he starts moving around different angles, you know, trying to get a and he comes back and he goes, no, that's not a stump. I was okay. Which they're very big into dog man down there.

43:08 Oh yeah, absolutely yeah. And so he's like, okay, we're not alone out here. And I said okay, you know, and he's like, it's probably time to get in the truck, you know. And everybody down there is armed, which that's not usually the case, you know, when we're out, that's not the norm for us. And you've got all these people that are like, nope, we're getting back in the truck. And there was no eyeshine on this thing. It stood perfectly still. So I don't know, I think it had its back to us, but it was not moving, I mean not at all.

43:48 And so yeah, at that point we were like, okay, we've had enough, so we got in the truck and headed back into camp. But yeah, that place down there is definitely there's some weird stuff that goes on down there. That's it. That's one of those areas. I haven't been there yet either, And you hear so many wild, wild things about the LBL. Definitely. Now we mentioned you've also been to Oklahoma before. Are there any any stories that that stick out in your memory of things you've experienced down in Oklahoma? Can get pretty pretty weird down there too.

44:35 We've been down there twice, once on a private one and then we did the bf R O one. The private one we were down around Sulfur with a bunch of different people and we were out standing on the creek bank. I think there was about five or six of us. We were just kind of wandering around. There's a literally you can drive out of the town and into the campground. It's it's bizarre, and so we're just kind of wandering around the campground because half the campground's like closed off. They have this huge campground and they don't open the back half of it anymore. Right, So we're back and there wandering around because it's you know, it's nice level you can walk. And we'd walked all the way back to the river back there, and we were standing along it. Like I said, there was probably I guess about six of us and we're just being quiet, stand there looking around, and we hear this thud that sounds like something huge has dropped out of a tree.

45:36 And it was funny because we all turned around at one time because we all heard it. It was behind us, you know, and we were like, what was that? You know, we never saw anything. We back the next day trying to find tracks things like that. But we had that happen to us in the LBL too, of where you hear that thud of something. Yeah, and it was during the day. It was during the day that we had it there. But so we went last May to Oklahoma with a BFRO expedition and those people down there talk about it like it's no big deal. They see it all the time, you know. They would come up and tell us about seeing it when they were out fishing.

46:22 You know, it's out in the lake just all over the place. We were in an area that there was a road and there was one of the gentlemen. We were out doing some scouting during the day and there was two vehicles of us and the vehicle behind us. They thought they saw something and they stopped and we realized we'd lost them. So we were, you know, trying to get a hold of them, and one of the guys is like, yeah, we might have had a sighting, and so we go find them. When we go back and there's like, here's this suv in the middle of the road. All the doors are oh. We pull up, going Okay, this doesn't look good, and they're off in the woods over here and they'd seen a tree structure.

47:13 So that's what made them get out and go look, right, something that they thought was a tree structure. Well, one of the gentlemen is just standing. He's standing closer up. He didn't go all the way. The other two found a game trail, and they'd headed down the game trail, see if they find anything else interesting. And he's standing there waiting for him to come back, and to his right, he caught movement out of his you know, his peripheral and so he kind of turns and looks, and there's something coming through the woods toward him, and he said, you know, my brain kept going, what's the landowner doing. Well, we weren't on private land, we were on public plant. But he said, that's what my brain he goes. And then my brain kept going, why is the landowner dressed and head to toe brown, you know. And finally when it gets closer, it dawn's on him. That's not the landowner.

48:05 And so it came up at an angle and then walked in front of him about I think, he said, about twenty five feet out from him. And he said, just walked, never looked at him, never broke stride, just through the trees and down the trail. The two guys were on right, and he said, he goes, it was beautiful. He goes, it was this beautiful reddish brown, you know, kind of the auburn colored, right. He said, you couldn't hear it, And he said it was gone so fast it wasn't even funny. He goes, it just the movement of it, smooth, fluid gone. So it's he's standing there and here come the other two guys up, and he said, did you see it? And they're like, did we see what?

48:50 And he tells them and he's like, it just literally went down the trail where you just came out up. They never saw it. They had to have been within ten to fifteen feet of it, never saw it. And this was in the middle of the day, in the afternoon. So yeah, I cannot imagine that. I haven't been fortunate enough yet to have a sighting like that. So I don't know what the reaction, you know, would be, and I don't think you'd know until you get into that situation. I think you can. You can try to prepare for it, I'm pretty sure, and you can be like, Okay, I'm ready to see one, but like, you don't know until you actually you see it. And yeah, I hope someday that happens I don't know. We'll see. I'm headed down to see I'm going to Oregon next year again, and I'm going to Oklahoma and Tennessee. So we'll see.

49:48 Yeah, but you should be able to, you know, I mean. And it's funny sometimes it's it happened so quick. When we were in Arkansas, we had set up we would leave camp at night. I said, okay, let's do what we've done every night, and so we would have our dinner, sit around the fire for a little while, and then we would all get in the vehicle and go leave for about an hour, right because we were trying to recreate the first night, and so every night this worked. So the last night when we came back, we had set a hunting blind up in a clearing up by the cabin where they were throwing rocks, and it had been out there all day, so they had plenty of time to have seen it. You know, they knew we put it out there, type of deal. So me and two other women we went and got in it. And it's sitting kind of up the hill a little ways from camp. Now, all the guys were down around the campfire and they had, you know, all their equipment out watching, right, because we were going to see just if we got anything going on. And the first thing, just a few minutes after we had been in there, well, leave I had came up and he had dropped a very small glows to kind of like the ones you use for fishing, just a teeny tiny one. Because he had him stuck all over the place, you know, we were kind of waiting to see if something was going to pick him up, and we could see him, but the one that was laying on the ground above us, it was really small.

51:16 We could see it. One of the girls kept telling them that she could hear she could hear something moving around. The guys couldn't find anything on the thermal, but she could hear it. We'd been in there a little while and all of a sudden, there's like this it was almost like cat urine, this odor that just you know, like waffed it in and we're telling him what we're smelling, you know, so they can and as as soon as it started, it was gone, right, and we were like, that is so weird because if it was something that had done that, you would think that smell would be you know, would stay for a while, right, And so oh, Levi was the only one that was coming up to the blind, and he had a certain route that he would come to the blind, and he'd always come up to the blind and go, don't shoot me. I'd say, Okay, Levi, I'm not going to shoot you. You know, that was the thing every time, you know, don't shoot me. Okay, leev I'm not gonna shoot you. So we're sitting there and all three of us are facing different directions, and I'm kind of sitting where I can look back into the camp and I can look behind the cabin, and the other ladies were pointed in different directions, and I'm watching and I think I see Levi. And then it dawns on me. That's not Levi. And I'm like, wait a minute. And that's when I finally said something. I'm like, that's not Levi. And they're like, what are you talking about.

52:46 I said, that was not Levi. That just came out and went back. It was kind of like it came out of the woods just far enough to go past the blind we were in and tround shot right back into the woods. Yeah, and we're sitting there discussing it, and here comes Levy. I said were you just up here, he goes, No, I was in camp down that they can tell you. I was down there in camp, and that thing took the opportunity to come shooting out of the woods, run past us, and run back in. And of course, did anybody in camp get it? No? You know. Yeah, So that evening, the lady that had been staying in the cabin that they were pelting constantly, she'd had to leave early. So this thing had a big, nice, screened in porch and it had rained almost every day.

53:36 And I told my husband, I said, let's pack the tin up. It's dry, let's pack it up. Let's just take our cots and sleep on that front porch. It's screened in. It'll be great, right, Yeah. So I woke up about two thirty in the morning, and I'm laying there and I've got to go to the bathroom. And you can't just go from the porch into the house. You have to go off this porch onto another porch and then into the house. And the screen door on this everybody in camp could hear it, and so I didn't want to wake everybody up. So I'm just laying there, going ah, and I'm contemplating, you know it, can I get out and get this door open, and there's a slap on the end of that cabin that's so loud.

54:25 I about jumped out of the cot and I'm like, what was that. So I'm laying there, you know, thinking holy crap. And finally my husband starts to move and I said, okay, you're awake. I'm going to the bathroom now, and he goes, of course you are, you know, So I run in, go the bathroom, come back, get back in my cot. I'm laying there being as quiet as I can be, and you can hear crunch, crunch, crunch. They're walking through the pea gravel just outside the screened in porch, and somebody's like, why didn't you shine a light? And I said, have you ever shined a light at a screen?

55:06 Right? You don't get anything? Yeah? Yeah? And so and then you could hear almost like movement against the wooden pillars out there, and my husband says, are you moving? Is that you I said, no, I'm not moving, I'm not doing anything. And so we laid there. This kind of stuff went on for about an hour. Oh my goodness, you know, and finally he goes, that's it. He jumps up, pulls his cock closer to mine because we're about six feet apart at this point. He pulls it over close to me because I am up against the cabin. I had a feeling. I'm like, I'm not putting myself out there. We're you know. And so what was really funny is he reaches under and pulls the gun bag out and UNSI and my husband's very calm, cool, collected.

56:03 He goes, I am completely creeped out. I feel like I'm being watched. So I was like, okay. So then he says, where's Levi. Well, Levi had left and we are now at like three point thirty in the morning. He'd gone out to call his girlfriend and just you know, he was just out doing his own thing, and so he rolls back into companies. He's out there dinking around, and I've got a light and I keep shining todd him, trying to get his attention, and finally he gets out, and I finally him, Like Levi. He comes running up there and we're telling what's going on, and he goes, they did that crap to me last night because he had slept on that porch that night. But and he's like, he's like, they harassed me till about daylight.

56:53 Oh wow. Yeah. So he went in and he was in one of the bedrooms and he comes back out and he goes, I don't know if I can sleep in there. And I said, well, what's wrong? He goes, I can hear them moving against the back part of it. He goes, I don't know if their hands are on it, or if they're just you know, their body or what. He said, I want to open the shade. And he goes, I don't want to open the shade. Yeah, no, right, I've never bet. Yeah, I don't know what I would do either. Yeah, that's yeah. So they messed with us off and on. You know, they'd let it go for a while. Then you would get this just rock that came in that hit the side or would land on the metal roof, you know.

57:33 I mean that went on till till daylight. So yeah, they were having a good old time throwing rocks at us and making sure that we knew they were around. Wow. And that was Missouri. That was Arkansas. Oh that was Arkansas again. Okay, gotcha. That is some wild wild stuff. Mike Gonness, you you have been through some pretty hair raising things, but it sounds like you love doing it, Mary Anne, which is great, you know, and hats off to your husband. He's along there right with you, so right, oh yeah. Oh yeah, he's right there, you know. And he'll tell people.

58:14 We always call him the residents skeptic, you know, which he still is because he's like, he hasn't seen it, but he's like, I've experienced some things I can't explain. He goes, there's something out there, he goes, I just don't know what it is yet, gotcha. Yeah, yeah, absolutely well, Mary, and I appreciate you being on the show today and sharing what you've experienced. How people can look more into the Ozark Mountain Bigfoot Conference, get signed up for that if they would like, and different things like that that you're in charge of.

58:55 Absolutely so the Ozarn't Mountain Bigfoot Conference, there probably won't be anything really out on it till after the first of the year. We do have, you know, the date for it, which is October third of twenty twenty six, and it will be at the Relics Event Center. People can go to Ozart Mountain Bigfoot Conference Facebook page because that's where I put a lot of the information. I'll announce the speakers there, that kind of stuff, and usually tickets will go on sale through event bright for that. Now the camp out, the private camp out with that, that's always through me. They have to you know, go through me before they can do anything with that. We kind of have like an interview process with them. And then for the BFRO expeditions, if you'll just go to BFRO dot net, those should be coming up pretty quick.

59:52 I've got to get the dates in because we're going to do probably two in Missouri, one in Arkansas, and one in Oklahoma this year. So you know, we'll be announcing the dates of those pretty quick. You can find those, like I said, on vfroo dot net and sometimes I do have those on the Ozart Mountain Bigfoot Conference page. Also awesome, awesome, and uh, how can people follow your podcast on on YouTube? So I've got the podcast it's called Bigfoot while Man and Boogers and it is a podcast on the YouTube channel. Just go look for that, you know, subscribe to it.

1:00:35 We talk about a lot of these things that like we talked about tonight when we've been out in the woods and the things that are going on and and we talk a lot about that. You know, we also have speakers on just you know, we just sit and talk about Bigfoot, the thing that everybody likes to talk about. I love it right exactly, exactly good stuff. Well, Mary Anne, Zabelle, thank you so much for being on the show. We'll definitely have to keep in touch and they see how things are going. Weigh you down down the road a bit, but it has been fun chatting with you tonight.

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