Aug. 9, 2024

Years of Bigfoot Interaction in Estacada, Oregon!

Lisa has called into Bigfoot Encounters Live on Saturday night before but I needed to get her on for a full episode.Lisa delves into her numerous encounters with Bigfoot and other supernatural phenomena. From her eerie childhood camping trip in the...

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Season 1

Lisa has called into Bigfoot Encounters Live on Saturday night before but I needed to get her on for a full episode.Lisa delves into her numerous encounters with Bigfoot and other supernatural phenomena. From her eerie childhood camping trip in the 1970s Bay Area to vivid interactions around Wildcat Mountain Road in the Estacada, Oregon area , Lisa shares her gripping narrative, including thermal imaging captures and peculiar forest events. She discusses the unique capabilities of the 'forest people,' sightings of fairies, and unusual animal behaviors, expanding into broader mysteries like Dogman cryptids. Tune in to explore Lisa's decades-spanning connection to the unknown and join a community of enthusiasts dedicated to these forest mysteries.

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Our big for society. We've got the privilege of talking

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to Lisa today. Lisa's an individual that left a comment

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or two on a video back in the day on

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the channel, and so I reached out to her through

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must have been an episode or maybe a comment back

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to her and said, hey, you know, I want to

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know more. And so she's been emailing me back and forth.

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She's been sending some really interesting thermal videos, just some

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there's a lot for us to talk about. So Lisa,

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I'm so glad that you're able to come on the show.

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You've been on a call in show for a little bit,

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but I was like, man, we got to get a

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whole show so Lisa can share her full story. And Lisa,

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I'm really glad you're here today.

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Thanks Jeremiah.

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I was really I was so excited and nervous from

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when I called.

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You in and called in and yeah, be in line

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like that. But I'm fifty six years old.

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I was born and raised down in the Bay Area,

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and I was in Fanta Bay and I had my

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first experience in I think seventy six or seventy seven,

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and I went camping with my friend Linnette and her

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brother and sister, mother, father, and aunt and uncle, and.

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I always remembered the drive and.

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Being told I think he mentioned her uncle who went

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in their car and followed her parents, and he mentioned

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Donner Path. I think he was trying to, you know,

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freak us out a little bit. But I never remember

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spending the night and talking to Lynnette over, you know,

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especially since when on May eleventh of twenty twenty one,

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I was basically not as visually but everything else, reacquainted

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with the fact that these beings are real, and so,

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you know, after that, really dealing into that, I remember

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going camping with Linette and I brought it up, and.

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She didn't remember me going.

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She remembers, like she mentioned her uncle spinning her around,

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holding her hands and spinning around in circles, and she

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was afraid he was going to toss her off the cliff.

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And you know, over over a period of time, I

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eventually remembered that. You know, I remember standing there and

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watching it. She's screaming, and I think to myself, why

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is she what she screaming about? You know, her feet

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are barely going over the edge, and and so, you.

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Know, eventually we worked it out that, you know, I

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couldn't remember spending the night, but she couldn't remember me

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even billing. So it was like.

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Some wrong with this picture, you know, And so I really,

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you know, I was seeking the truth what happened, and

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I started I remembered the tent, and she asked me

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to describe it, and I told her it was really

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big and square, and you know, I did a really

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good bang up job describing it.

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And eventually I told her I remember.

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Laying in a sleeping bag facing each other, her bag,

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me and mine, and she said, and we're on a

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video chat, so this makes it even even better because

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I'm looking at her and she says, I seem to

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remember you going holding your finger up and pointing over

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my left shoulder. And then she came out in front

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of me on the phone and walked her fingers like

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in the Yellow Pages, and yeap, that shot me back.

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I felt just like I must have phoned that night

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hearing something out.

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There, and when I told you about it on that

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live call in I I was so in her hurry

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and wanting to get everything out there that I didn't

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tell you that, you know, we were we went through

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and I mean, she still didn't remember me being there.

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She knows that it happened. She has no doubt in

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her mind, and a really ubsess her that she can't

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remember one or thing. But we went running back, you know,

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she said, she said, run after some things were getting

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fron and I saw the direction, but my back was

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up against a big boulder, and.

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They were being frown from behind.

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The boulder to the right diagonally. And she's up on

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a stack of logs being logged, and she sees, she

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sees where it came from. She had to have because

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she said, and I had had start, of course, because

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I was already on the ground. And like we talked

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about this like five different times over a period, I

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don't know, three months, and so I I'm thinking about

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it the whole time. You know that I'm not talking

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to her, because you know, either we run from it or.

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We obsess on it. And I'm the obsessor, and.

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I'm like, I seem to remember some mention of a

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monkey and of her mother going back and we ran.

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She asked, well, were you ahead of me or was

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I ahead of you?

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I said I was ahead of you because you were

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up on the logs. And we get back and her.

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She says, did Uncle Jay or Chris Scance with a

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monkey suit or a monkey mask. And her mother's like, no,

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you know, like, oh my god, I remember her face just.

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Like I'm sure, I'm busy. No, no, you know, and

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so that is I didn't see it. I didn't see.

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It and get the door slammed on my memory. I

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just ran and I heard those steps.

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I heard it, you know, walking around the tent. And

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so she.

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Still doesn't remember, but you know, there's there's a ghostly

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event with a cat that I had that we took

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from Santasey. We moved up to Pendleton for not even

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a year and ended up going back to the same house.

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But I got a kidney infection and this was like

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eighty let's feel freshman, So it was like eighty shoe

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eighty three and I told her.

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I came out and I'm worried about you know, where's Tippy.

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Where's Tippy? And my mom says she's got there on

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the couch. So I go over and I give her

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love and I'm happy she's okay.

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I had no idea why, and I told my mother,

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don't let Tippy out, and she said she wouldn't. And

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I went back to sleep, and you know how cats are,

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they're persistent and drove my mother nuts and so she

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let her out and she.

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Got hit and killed by a car. And so we ended.

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Up That was before the winter, and we ended up

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moving back about six months later. And my friend Lynette

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was over and we come from the kitchen or probably

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the game room the garage, and we're going down the

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hall in my bedroom for some reason. And we get

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down there and Lynette's first and she sees Chippy sitting

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there at the corner.

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Of my pane's door and my door. And I had

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to have seen it too and seen her too, because

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I ran rick be split and I told n I said,

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you know, see I don't remember. I believe it, but

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I don't remember.

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And you are she's got the ability to uh pick

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up an item and describe it that, you know, uh

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the connections the people. And yeah, she's had a he's

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been spoken to by by spirits, you know, by particularly

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a woman that she believes was was accidentally at least

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accidentally died at the hands of her man. And she's

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almost certain that the woman was like I've heard so many,

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so many people's experiences where.

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The man goes and you know.

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The big Harry Forrest guy comes in and you know,

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comes around while the man's gone, and she tells the

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man probably all on over and he's a truck driver

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and he drinks and he gets flustered, and you know,

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he probably couldn't take it anymore. And I mean, this

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woman was accidentally accidentally killed, and I mean, so she's

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got she's got that connection, I said. And I'm like,

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I'm nature, I'm the birds.

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I'm basically a cross between grist, the Adams and snow

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White without a dress.

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Animals. It's insane the way that animals are with me.

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And so it it makes sense that hey, I.

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Am I remember that, you know, but you blocked it out.

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And hey you remember seeing Tippy. I know I did,

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but I don't remember. And so so then we'll go to.

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May a lot of of twenty twenty one. In twenty seventeen,

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I had been introduced to going out and collecting mushrooms edible,

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not loucinogenic.

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And I'm a picture person. I love I love nature,

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I love beauty, and I had an.

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Eye for photography. And so I saw this great calendar

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picture of this log of a big tree, big tree,

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you know, probably bigger around or maybe as bigger around

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as what you can make a circle with your arms,

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and it's going straight in to the forest, framed, you know,

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a bit rounded and broken up of the opening, and

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it's just beautiful.

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So I take a picture and I go in and

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I'm like in awe and filled with them. I don't

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know if there's apprehension.

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I was very anxious because my conscience may not have

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been being out.

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Loud about it. But the downside, I knew that.

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These trees had been pulled out of the ground and

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shoved back in top side down, and so I wanted

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to get these pictures again. I lost the phone, like

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everybody goes through phones, and so I wanted to reclaim

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those pictures. And I went up like three or four times.

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I started out about mid April, and too much snow

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can nearly get up there. And then the time before

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I made it, I walked up a little bit and

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it's you, no, I got this video and it's quite

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long because I, like, you know, I document it, document

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pretty much everything I can, and then you know, decide

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if it's capable whatnot.

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And so I'm walking down the road and I'm grumbling

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and and like I'm home, my camera and my phone

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out in front of me, filming, and I uh end

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up and I find this, like nine months later.

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I find what it is. You know, I'm unmistakable, without

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a doubt.

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It is all one color. It's not the gentleman that

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I did film later in the room mirror.

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Big for a Society will be right back.

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After these messages, he was walking up towards me and

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I'm like, I'm going way, don't come.

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Up here, you know, grumbling and a cem and you know,

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the first subject, the one all down, was further down

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and in front of me. And but and I'm sorry,

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if that dude had been down there were that being was,

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I'd have been able to tell he was wearing different colors,

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and they.

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Certainly weren't all dark. And so I'm like, wow.

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I mean, I just catch all this fat that's crazy.

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But Lisa could then, sorry, could you share where the

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kind of region that that happened, and just so the

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listeners can picture, like where it is that you're.

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So many people talk about it. It is Wildcat Mountain

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Road in Estacada.

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Okay, thank you, yeah mm hmm.

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So then I go back May eleventh, and I can

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make it and it's like, oh my gosh. So, I mean,

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I I get in there, and I I'm disappointed. I'm

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it's hard for me to recognize it because I mean, gosh,

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it's only been four years of wear and tear.

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Must have been a little lot of big seat going

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up and down that log. Because when I when I

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took the first picture of it, I wish.

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I had that drown picture. The log was it was

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a big tree was clearly.

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Sticking up off the ground and you know, so it

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had the rounded edges and it just looked like, you know,

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somebody started cutting it to cut boards off of it,

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and just now it's like now there's hardly any tree

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that you can see. It's it's really soft and mushy.

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And but I get in there and.

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I can.

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I can feel like I feel like I'm gonna have

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a heart attack because.

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I mean my breathing, you know, I.

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In my head, I I am more concerned about man

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than I am animal. And then you have bear spray

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in the van. But I'm just like, you know, I'm

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upset because I can't find you know.

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That the marm tree that I had taken a picture

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of what looked like a marm tree saying no, no,

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no to a little one holding his arms out looking

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like it's pleading. And that was two of the three

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trees that had.

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Their roots sticking up like their limbs there should have been.

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And then the bigger one, it didn't have any moss

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on it in seventeen, but it is covered in moss now.

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Like, you know, I was going to spontaneously conbust. I

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ended up.

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I'm looking in that picture, looking back in the dark.

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You know, I'm looking for dark stuff. I didn't even

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think to look closer to me when I finally noticed, like, wow,

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here's these two red, these two shiny you know, there's

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red that there isn't anywhere else. And my little admirer

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that I call him, was back up against the tree

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and looking over his right shoulder, got looks like he's

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got green lives. And then his big sibling was in

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a tree probably about maybe twenty feet to his right

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and back a little bit and mbout forty feet from me,

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and the little one was about thirty feet from me,

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and the big one he's shown some about the edge

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of his shoulder down to his elbow, and I later

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found a footprint with my son there at that tree,

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facing the tree, so she wasn't peaking. I didn't catch

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him peaking. He was just standing there thinking, thinking he

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couldn't be seen. But so then.

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Sorry, Lisa, real quick that what you saw was that

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through a thermal or did you see that in like

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you saw that face to face, like you were looking

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at the creatures.

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No, I was standing there feeling them, okay, And I

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saw them in my in my pictures.

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Got it, okay, thank you.

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I took a picture, yep, and I have that on

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my phone.

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One time I was going up there, I was really upset,

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and I would, you know, once I realized they were.

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There, I would go up there and talk to him,

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you know. And so when I go up there one

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time and I'm venting to them or I want to

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vent to him.

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I'm really bad. To day, I pulled over to let

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somebody around me because I don't like people.

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Riding in my trunk, and behind them was an officer

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and I don't have a yeah, I didn't have a

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back plate at the time, you know that, or I

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wash my tags were no good.

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But he pulled me over and you know, I was

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real honest with him. Why I know, you know, when

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I was doing it. In a long story short, I

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ended up showing him my phone and.

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Him wanting to know if he could touch it.

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I said, well, the picture won't blow up because it's

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on you know, it's the screen on my phone. And

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she says to me, me and the red you know

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these guys are red.

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Me and my wife just bought a house on Wildcat

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Mountain Road, and I think we have one living on

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our property. This yeah, it was Clakmus County Sheriff. And

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I mean, you know, before I got into that, he

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says he, I said, I just need to go up

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and you know, be with nature, and you know, YadA YadA.

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And he says, you aren't gonna Stephen night, are you?

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And later I, you know, just the same minute later,

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I realized why he was concerned about that. A lot

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of stuff has happened on Wildcat when I first moved

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up here in eighty six, and my boyfriend ended up

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later being my husband and now x uh, he said,

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you know, people were our bodies have been found up

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on Wildcat.

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Real quick, I had a gentleman who called in from

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let me pull up a map real quick. It's it's

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south of down in Colton. He called from Colton and

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he was talking about Estacada and saying that there's a

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lot of missing people in that area. Usually, Yeah, okay,

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so you can I can verify that.

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Yeah, yeah, I mean there are a lot of people

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that go missing everywhere. It's just that, you know, unless

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your local, it's hard to find out because.

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You know, they used to they used to tell you

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how people died in the papers, and at least in

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their obituaries.

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They don't tell you. They don't.

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They leave all that out, and they do a lot

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of wine about what was the cause of death when

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they do find the bodies. When when I was okay,

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my mom was born in forty three. She was born

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and raised in Michigan.

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And I think it had to have been the only

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reason she would have told me something like this was

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if I was going to be going out into the

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woods when she was a little girl.

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And I found it, I was like, I found it.

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I looked up between what she was born forty three.

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So forty nine to fifty two or something. She said

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that a little a little boy or girl was drug

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off into the woods by a bear, and the mother followed.

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After it, beating it with a brain, chasing it, and

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the bear wouldn't let go, and the child died and

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I found that particle they described They described the bear

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as holding it under its arm like a football and

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running away.

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That's oh no, yeah, yeah, that's.

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To do right, Oh my? May you know the people

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that the.

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People that you know when when something scares you and

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your psyche just you know, isn't cracked up to accept it,

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You're gonna do everything you can, anything possible to avoid it.

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That's why you know Lynnette and I remain friends. That

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doesn't happen very often. You know, she wasn't she wasn't

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fully closed off to I mean it probably helps that

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we were like, you know, seven eight years old. But

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you know, Steve Isdall, I remember listening to him comment

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on you know, some guy or woman whatever sharing and

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experience that they had with several friends.

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And you know, lost a friend. There's the guy that

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he still has a brother in law, but they had

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an experience.

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Together and now he really doesn't have the brother in law.

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I mean, you know, if it's something you can't accept.

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Then you're not going to have anything to do with

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anybody who's tied to it, and it's really sad. But

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but anyway, so that was and that was May eleven.

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Then I I think I.

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Must have ordered my floor, my my thermal after that,

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you know, for big hairy people walking around on t

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feet and four legged harry, because I wanted to go

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camping with my son and I wanted that that oh

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safety net, I guess, and.

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Uh, let's see, it was.

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A July, was okay. Then in July, I'm July fourth.

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I had found a bunny, a cottontail, a baby cottontail

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here in the road and it looked like a little brown,

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little brown ball, and I was like, oh my gosh,

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I caught it.

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I got food for it.

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I ended up feeding it with a long thing, a plastic.

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A plastic dropper.

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And I'd read somewhere where they said that trying to

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do this isn't for the faint of heart. And on

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the seventh I went to feed.

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It and she wouldn't eat, and I knew what I

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knew what had happened that you know, I looked at

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the dropper and there were a couple of scrapes.

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On it, and she ingested just the smallest amount of

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plastic and it was going to kill her. And I

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took I got two videos. One of them is up

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there talking about it that I just put up, and

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it says, uh, all right, yeah, it says, this is

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why I had my.

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Uh sighting eyeballs. I saw it. I cried. It was

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it was just terrible.

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I I I've come to you know, not let anything

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die by itself if I can help it.

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And I knew that. They screamed, and.

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I was like, oh, I can't do it if if

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this thing screams, I'm so I kissed it, said sorry,

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and I put it in the cage and I.

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Went up Wildcat and I got up there and I'm

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you know, talking out the window to them big.

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For society, who will be right back after these messages.

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You know, if I see a help. The first time

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I saw a helicopter, I warned them.

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You know, they're looking, they're looking for you. They can

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see you, they hunt you, you know, telling them, you know,

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I wish I could live out there with you. And

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you know, if I have to come back down here

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again and do another life, I'd rather be a big,

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hairy forest person than you know, then a little hairless

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one and told him about the.

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Bunny and ended up when I didn't want to drive

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home at night.

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I usually did that, but being upset like I was,

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I didn't want to, and so I told.

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Him, you know, I don't want to go because I

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know as soon as I leave, I'm gonna start thinking

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about the bunny and I'm gonna start crying. And I'm like, no,

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I'm gonna go.

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You guys have a good night down the creek. Start

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up my van and start driving off in first gear

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because I like to look everywhere and just go really slow.

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I didn't get a hundred feet and the tears started

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freaking rolling down my face, and so I put on

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my sunglasses so anybody coming up wouldn't take a look

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at me and wonder what the heck my problem was.

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And I get down to.

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It's the first creek if you actually look at it

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on Google Maps, and I believe it's Believe it in

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Trout Creek.

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Yeah, there's Cedar Creek and Alder Creek up there too,

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but I believe it's Trout Creek, and.

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It's a coming down. It is a long turn to

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the left, and.

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I get just to where.

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I can see there's a forest, there's a logging road,

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a blue gate on the right, and analyzing it and

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thinking back on it so many times, I know that

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this being was standing there waiting for me, because they weren't,

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you know, they weren't in mid step. You know, they

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were not taking steps. They were standing still. And then

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stepped from there, and they took three steps up a

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small end clime, and then they were gone. And I

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thought to myself, where are the other two lives? And

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then I laughed out.

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Loud because they had to have been holding.

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A bushy shrub in front of them so that I

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would only see them my phone from about mid torso down,

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because they wanted me to stop crying, and I immediately did.

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As soon as I saw that, I immediately stopped crying, and

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you know, laughed because that would have been a funny

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looking deer the way it was walking.

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And you know, I grew up watching old movies with

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my mother, and I love all.

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The Peter Sellers Pink Panther movies, and the one with

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David Niven and Robert Wagner.

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Was it a I saw in the arket's Oh gosh, well,

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there's a.

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Mass grade ball or party and there's a couple of

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people in a gorilla suit, and then there's two people

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in a horse suit.

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And that's why, that's why I pictured was the way

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that their legs.

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Were begging going up this hill, and and I thought, boy,

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where are they wearing car hearts?

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Uh? You know, everything's all the same color. And I

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just I laughed, and I felt I felt like they cared,

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you know, I mean to stop, to stop those tears

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from my heart breaking over that little bunny. And then

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it was like, well, they understood me. They clearly understood me.

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00:35:33.639 --> 00:35:38.360
You know that picture that is on my YouTube of

467
00:35:38.400 --> 00:35:44.320
those eyes, that's out of a twenty six minute video

468
00:35:45.039 --> 00:35:49.480
that after I had seen things and it had been

469
00:35:49.559 --> 00:35:52.760
catching things, I started going back and watching other stuff

470
00:35:53.320 --> 00:35:56.199
and doing some frame by frame and looking at stuff.

471
00:35:57.000 --> 00:36:02.039
And by that day I was complaining about my daughter

472
00:36:03.519 --> 00:36:10.559
impaleling me, breaking my heart and hmm, I hear what

473
00:36:10.719 --> 00:36:15.400
sounds like a plastic bag or tarp and I get

474
00:36:15.400 --> 00:36:19.039
out and I'm talking about it, and and I'm like, well.

475
00:36:18.760 --> 00:36:21.039
I hear it out there. I start talking like I'm

476
00:36:21.079 --> 00:36:24.119
talking to them. I'm you know, are you? I said, well,

477
00:36:25.559 --> 00:36:30.320
I said, what was it? Or was that you, you know, I'm.

478
00:36:30.119 --> 00:36:33.920
Feeling and then this droop and I can't see it

479
00:36:34.000 --> 00:36:37.159
unless I go frame by frame, and it's really frustrating

480
00:36:38.119 --> 00:36:42.679
because I lost that ability on they axed it off

481
00:36:42.719 --> 00:36:48.199
of the Microsoft, so I'm I'm screwed on that. But uh,

482
00:36:48.960 --> 00:36:55.519
it comes just a little bitty bubble comes flying out into.

483
00:36:55.599 --> 00:37:00.480
The gravel, you know, road, and I'm just like, wow,

484
00:37:03.320 --> 00:37:10.559
on cue, we'll see. And so then after after that

485
00:37:10.800 --> 00:37:21.400
July uh hm hmm, see it started coming it. That

486
00:37:21.519 --> 00:37:27.800
was July seventh, August tenth. Something happened, but I don't know.

487
00:37:27.840 --> 00:37:35.400
I think it was it had been uh okay.

488
00:37:38.079 --> 00:37:41.719
It was, you know, it was. It was after that

489
00:37:41.719 --> 00:37:49.280
that I knew I had seen it. I had seen

490
00:37:49.320 --> 00:37:52.280
one with my own eyes, and I knew for sure

491
00:37:53.079 --> 00:37:55.559
that what I saw in the pictures were real because

492
00:37:56.000 --> 00:37:59.639
there was that was probably the I think it was

493
00:37:59.679 --> 00:38:03.519
the blame that was hiding behind the back of the

494
00:38:03.599 --> 00:38:05.039
further factory in that picture.

495
00:38:05.320 --> 00:38:09.960
But I want to go and go walk down this

496
00:38:10.159 --> 00:38:15.760
one blue gate logging road to look for mushrooms during

497
00:38:15.800 --> 00:38:19.239
the day, but I'm too scared too. I'm too worried,

498
00:38:19.239 --> 00:38:21.599
and I'm like, oh wait a minute, I have that

499
00:38:21.760 --> 00:38:24.800
thermal in every chord during the day or get stepped

500
00:38:24.840 --> 00:38:25.559
during the day too.

501
00:38:26.480 --> 00:38:31.519
So I and this video is like four minutes, just

502
00:38:31.639 --> 00:38:37.199
under five minutes, and I'm panning around and looking, still

503
00:38:37.239 --> 00:38:43.480
getting used to the thermal, and I end up finally

504
00:38:44.159 --> 00:38:49.519
walking around the gate and I think I stepped about

505
00:38:50.000 --> 00:38:52.920
fourteen steps based on how the candle was.

506
00:38:53.000 --> 00:38:58.519
Kind of moving before. I see a heat signature and

507
00:38:58.639 --> 00:39:03.880
I stop and it's my little admirer. I just knew

508
00:39:03.960 --> 00:39:05.880
it in the back of my head. I know it,

509
00:39:06.119 --> 00:39:09.639
and it's running. It's kind of hilly in there.

510
00:39:09.679 --> 00:39:12.480
I go back and I show the area and regular video.

511
00:39:12.679 --> 00:39:17.760
It's open in there and hilly, and he's running over

512
00:39:17.880 --> 00:39:21.159
and wants to hide behind a tree. Thinks I'm going

513
00:39:21.199 --> 00:39:25.480
to go walking down that road, and I'm stopping and

514
00:39:25.559 --> 00:39:27.880
watching and he gets behind this tree and he looks

515
00:39:27.880 --> 00:39:30.800
and he realizes that I'm looking at him and seeing him,

516
00:39:31.199 --> 00:39:36.400
and he goes into what. You know, the Native Americans

517
00:39:36.480 --> 00:39:43.480
have so many different you know, the different native plans

518
00:39:43.519 --> 00:39:46.960
that you know Cherokee, and the different types have different names.

519
00:39:47.039 --> 00:39:52.079
And I heard one where they refer to them, refer

520
00:39:52.199 --> 00:39:52.719
to them.

521
00:39:52.639 --> 00:39:56.880
As like the man who leaves when he runs you know,

522
00:39:57.519 --> 00:40:03.840
goes into it, almost like falling flat on his face

523
00:40:04.039 --> 00:40:05.920
in a run, you know, taken off. So he does

524
00:40:06.000 --> 00:40:10.440
that really quick, and that scared me, and I turned

525
00:40:10.519 --> 00:40:14.360
and I start running back to the land. And then

526
00:40:14.400 --> 00:40:17.800
I get down there, and when I strolled back hooking,

527
00:40:18.039 --> 00:40:21.320
I'm like, all right, where'd you go. I didn't even

528
00:40:21.320 --> 00:40:26.679
think about it till much later that I said little, because.

529
00:40:26.440 --> 00:40:28.679
I mean, I knew it was And.

530
00:40:30.480 --> 00:40:32.840
They turned out to be probably about four feet tall,

531
00:40:33.840 --> 00:40:39.039
and I was like, oh my gosh.

532
00:40:39.159 --> 00:40:45.960
And I ended up getting big big boy is in.

533
00:40:45.840 --> 00:40:50.639
It too, across on the other side in the trees.

534
00:40:51.360 --> 00:40:56.440
And then I think I see my little admirer stuck

535
00:40:56.519 --> 00:41:00.360
up against a tree, trying to blend in and wait,

536
00:41:01.000 --> 00:41:02.679
staying still because.

537
00:41:02.400 --> 00:41:04.880
I can there's a bit more of a heath signature there.

538
00:41:05.800 --> 00:41:11.039
And then and I only catch the stony frame by frame,

539
00:41:12.880 --> 00:41:16.559
probably big brother or sister. I think there's only three

540
00:41:16.559 --> 00:41:20.119
of them. There could be a female and maybe shoes.

541
00:41:20.800 --> 00:41:25.760
I just haven't seen her or couldn't tell her it

542
00:41:25.800 --> 00:41:31.679
was her. But somebody is pushing on a snag and

543
00:41:31.719 --> 00:41:33.960
it just goes. It's going back and forth a little

544
00:41:34.000 --> 00:41:40.159
bit like they're trying to distract me, and I ended

545
00:41:40.199 --> 00:41:41.159
up turning and.

546
00:41:41.880 --> 00:41:47.000
Running back to the van. It was it looked like

547
00:41:47.599 --> 00:41:50.199
I would have seen it, but I didn't. I was

548
00:41:50.280 --> 00:41:59.920
just like i'd I'd had enough my nerves and let's see.

549
00:42:00.079 --> 00:42:05.280
So then then, you know, I've heard so many people

550
00:42:05.320 --> 00:42:10.199
talk about them knowing, you know, they know you're going

551
00:42:10.320 --> 00:42:14.480
to go out there before you get there type stuff.

552
00:42:15.199 --> 00:42:20.800
And I had made an appointment at my mechanics right

553
00:42:20.840 --> 00:42:27.719
down the street I live and Boring, and I made

554
00:42:27.760 --> 00:42:32.800
it a month out for August tenth.

555
00:42:33.199 --> 00:42:35.960
And I get down there. He's going to be working

556
00:42:35.960 --> 00:42:37.679
on it a long time. I can't remember what he

557
00:42:37.760 --> 00:42:41.960
was doing. But I bring my chair and I bring

558
00:42:42.079 --> 00:42:47.119
drinks and I'm set up to go sit around on

559
00:42:47.199 --> 00:42:49.199
the side of the building in the shade and wait.

560
00:42:51.039 --> 00:42:55.039
And I'm sitting there and not long. I didn't send

561
00:42:55.039 --> 00:42:58.119
me any pictures, but I've got pictures where.

562
00:42:58.519 --> 00:43:04.760
I notice footprints in the tan bark where it had

563
00:43:05.159 --> 00:43:08.639
patches rained, and it was you know, they weren't missed

564
00:43:08.679 --> 00:43:13.039
down and they were pretty on big. I mean, it

565
00:43:13.119 --> 00:43:18.000
looked probably about close to twenty inches like the prints

566
00:43:18.320 --> 00:43:22.280
that that I sent your picture of video.

567
00:43:23.760 --> 00:43:25.199
And they're going back.

568
00:43:25.320 --> 00:43:31.280
I follow them, and they're going back quite a side

569
00:43:31.480 --> 00:43:40.320
between them, and he sits down and I see, I see.

570
00:43:39.920 --> 00:43:44.039
Where the butt was, if you know, the tan.

571
00:43:44.039 --> 00:43:46.519
Bark team up in a little bit of a and

572
00:43:46.559 --> 00:43:51.639
a little bit of a point and a long cracks.

573
00:43:51.119 --> 00:43:53.360
And then there was.

574
00:43:55.480 --> 00:44:05.119
Two pieces of the roots from blackberries, the windy curly

575
00:44:05.199 --> 00:44:09.960
stuff where craft stores will sell it. They'll sell that

576
00:44:10.039 --> 00:44:14.320
dried stuff. And there were two of them.

577
00:44:13.880 --> 00:44:23.960
Laying there right in front of the butt prints, and

578
00:44:24.119 --> 00:44:29.039
I'm like, wow, you know, did they know I was

579
00:44:29.119 --> 00:44:33.679
going to be here? I mean, clearly it.

580
00:44:33.599 --> 00:44:36.639
Looked like somebody sat and waited for a while. I

581
00:44:36.679 --> 00:44:40.599
mean I couldn't see any other prints besides the big ones,

582
00:44:41.760 --> 00:44:47.280
and then like, no, I don't know. A couple of

583
00:44:47.320 --> 00:44:51.400
weeks later, I was staying. I was sleeping out of

584
00:44:51.440 --> 00:44:58.800
the motor home and there's a walkway that you know

585
00:44:58.840 --> 00:45:03.159
out in the grass. I take it's not it's a footpath,

586
00:45:03.280 --> 00:45:05.519
it's there's bricks out there.

587
00:45:05.599 --> 00:45:10.039
But you know, I go off to the left and unless.

588
00:45:09.800 --> 00:45:14.480
You're gonna go over the bridge, unless you're nobody's going

589
00:45:14.559 --> 00:45:19.039
to be walking there, and somebody would have stepped on it.

590
00:45:19.519 --> 00:45:22.320
Big, So society will be right back after these messages,

591
00:45:39.159 --> 00:45:39.719
there was.

592
00:45:40.119 --> 00:45:45.840
Laid right there one of those little wiggly twigs from

593
00:45:46.119 --> 00:45:50.840
the blackberries, and I'm like, all right, but.

594
00:45:52.559 --> 00:45:53.039
What is this?

595
00:45:53.119 --> 00:45:56.559
I mean, there's none of this around here. There's no

596
00:45:56.760 --> 00:45:58.119
reason for it to be here.

597
00:45:58.239 --> 00:46:03.079
Just like down at the my mechanics, there wasn't any

598
00:46:03.199 --> 00:46:07.039
of that stuff around to be having two little figs

599
00:46:07.079 --> 00:46:11.639
sitting right out in front of a big bootprint. O.

600
00:46:12.079 --> 00:46:19.280
You said, yeah, yeah, and like that was that's in

601
00:46:19.360 --> 00:46:26.639
August or twenty one. Then then uh, you know, probably

602
00:46:27.000 --> 00:46:30.199
in the next two or three weeks. A couple of

603
00:46:30.280 --> 00:46:35.159
times I'm hearing some stuff out in the garage, and

604
00:46:36.000 --> 00:46:38.880
you know, I know what things sound like. I know

605
00:46:38.960 --> 00:46:40.159
what we have around here.

606
00:46:40.719 --> 00:46:42.920
The only thing that I've ever seen going up and

607
00:46:42.960 --> 00:46:46.239
down the little uh, the little seasonal trick that goes

608
00:46:46.239 --> 00:46:48.719
through that property is raccoons.

609
00:46:49.760 --> 00:46:52.639
And never never have.

610
00:46:52.719 --> 00:46:57.840
I known a raccoon to go into the into the garage. Birds,

611
00:46:58.519 --> 00:47:02.920
and just recently a kitten. But you know, hanging what

612
00:47:02.960 --> 00:47:06.519
those things sound like, and.

613
00:47:07.480 --> 00:47:10.840
You know they so many people have said, you know,

614
00:47:11.000 --> 00:47:17.880
when they know that, you know, then you know your

615
00:47:17.920 --> 00:47:27.440
fun to interact with, you know. I mean, I I've

616
00:47:27.480 --> 00:47:34.639
just been amazed at you know, like last night, last night,

617
00:47:34.760 --> 00:47:35.760
I'm hearing.

618
00:47:36.400 --> 00:47:39.639
So, you know, we've got Alan's around here, and sometimes

619
00:47:39.880 --> 00:47:43.239
sometimes I really wonder because they don't all get together

620
00:47:43.360 --> 00:47:46.400
and sing all crazy, you know, a bunch of them

621
00:47:46.480 --> 00:47:47.599
competing with each other.

622
00:47:50.199 --> 00:47:57.039
But there was it was going to her room and and.

623
00:47:55.880 --> 00:48:02.239
Then there was a really weird sound, just a different tone,

624
00:48:02.559 --> 00:48:06.400
and so I decided to record, and right before I did,

625
00:48:06.880 --> 00:48:07.480
there was a.

626
00:48:09.199 --> 00:48:12.239
They just keet and I'm like okay, and I hit

627
00:48:12.320 --> 00:48:17.559
record and it all stopped. It had been going on

628
00:48:17.760 --> 00:48:20.440
for you know, stuff had been going on for like,

629
00:48:20.480 --> 00:48:23.840
I don't know, five minutes, and then it all stopped,

630
00:48:27.880 --> 00:48:40.760
and let's seem okay. The fires in.

631
00:48:42.400 --> 00:48:49.159
What was it, twenty two, yeah, twenty two in the

632
00:48:49.199 --> 00:48:54.280
summer twenty two. I wanted to go up there and

633
00:48:54.800 --> 00:48:58.599
go up Wildcat and be near them and get away

634
00:48:58.599 --> 00:48:59.280
from the smoke.

635
00:49:00.400 --> 00:49:08.079
And I'm driving up and off from the left hand side.

636
00:49:07.800 --> 00:49:13.639
Of the road there's bushes, blackberries, rhododendrons. You know, it's bush,

637
00:49:13.679 --> 00:49:16.519
it's trees, it's forest.

638
00:49:17.119 --> 00:49:22.480
And I catched something in my lights and it's a twig.

639
00:49:22.199 --> 00:49:24.880
That I don't know, looks like it was about eight

640
00:49:24.960 --> 00:49:29.000
ten inches long, come flying up out of the bushes

641
00:49:29.400 --> 00:49:34.559
and it hits me in the wheelwall on my driver's side.

642
00:49:38.039 --> 00:49:42.280
What that was all about? Well, I actually do Dodge Park.

643
00:49:43.039 --> 00:49:52.039
He looked that up. It's mm hmm, well it's close

644
00:49:52.039 --> 00:49:58.760
by Dodge Park. I've had I found footprints there and

645
00:49:59.159 --> 00:50:01.159
he looked at the pitch sures that I sent you

646
00:50:01.840 --> 00:50:02.400
in the.

647
00:50:02.199 --> 00:50:05.760
Sand, the little one that I put my hand my

648
00:50:05.880 --> 00:50:13.880
thumb in hand out to measure next to. Something happened

649
00:50:13.880 --> 00:50:21.840
there right right as the last big stage so hit

650
00:50:22.280 --> 00:50:26.199
you know, the.

651
00:50:27.920 --> 00:50:33.159
The see the big sea word, you know, and Dodge

652
00:50:33.199 --> 00:50:39.880
Park used to let people camp. But then right before

653
00:50:40.280 --> 00:50:46.519
this all happened, something happened down there, and I heard it.

654
00:50:47.440 --> 00:50:51.519
I was told by someone at a store who has a.

655
00:50:51.559 --> 00:50:52.719
Fund down there.

656
00:50:54.239 --> 00:51:02.280
That you know, there were shots fired and and but

657
00:51:02.960 --> 00:51:05.920
the people that live down in that area they do

658
00:51:06.079 --> 00:51:08.760
damage control, you know, they were spoken to.

659
00:51:11.840 --> 00:51:15.000
There were a camp host, a husband.

660
00:51:14.599 --> 00:51:21.440
And a wife who had dogs and lots of dogs,

661
00:51:21.519 --> 00:51:23.480
and he had.

662
00:51:23.360 --> 00:51:28.480
A heart attack and he died down there. But it

663
00:51:28.639 --> 00:51:32.760
wasn't just a fluke. I mean I heard from the

664
00:51:32.960 --> 00:51:36.719
lady at the market that I used to go to

665
00:51:36.719 --> 00:51:37.760
told me about it.

666
00:51:38.920 --> 00:51:41.400
But then when I spoke to a gentleman that I

667
00:51:41.440 --> 00:51:43.880
would always see, he'd come through and pick up cans

668
00:51:43.920 --> 00:51:46.159
and bottles, and he had this really.

669
00:51:46.000 --> 00:51:49.400
Big, huge white dog and I mentioned it.

670
00:51:49.239 --> 00:51:55.599
To him and he said, oh no, no, he had

671
00:51:55.639 --> 00:51:59.000
a heart attack. And you know, back tell I could

672
00:51:59.039 --> 00:51:59.679
tell he was.

673
00:52:00.079 --> 00:52:01.480
He wasn't being truthful with me.

674
00:52:02.639 --> 00:52:09.920
But what happened was, I do believe that he saw something.

675
00:52:10.000 --> 00:52:14.159
They got dumpsters, They got big blue, black lid dumpsters

676
00:52:14.199 --> 00:52:16.760
down there for people to put their trash in.

677
00:52:17.480 --> 00:52:19.559
And I think, you know.

678
00:52:19.519 --> 00:52:23.039
I know where his He could see that one dumpster

679
00:52:23.159 --> 00:52:26.440
on the way out, he could see two different dumpsters

680
00:52:26.480 --> 00:52:32.880
from where his home was. He probably saw something and

681
00:52:34.280 --> 00:52:34.880
took a shot.

682
00:52:35.039 --> 00:52:39.000
I was worried that he had killed it, he had

683
00:52:39.079 --> 00:52:45.880
killed a baby, but even I think I think he didn't,

684
00:52:46.119 --> 00:52:49.440
and he got the crap scared out of him, and

685
00:52:49.480 --> 00:52:52.440
it literally gave him a heart attack because you know,

686
00:52:52.519 --> 00:53:00.239
he shot at it. It were shots fired, and I mean,

687
00:53:00.320 --> 00:53:03.760
I think, you know, at first, I thought he had

688
00:53:03.840 --> 00:53:08.079
killed a baby, and that really bothered me. And that's

689
00:53:08.159 --> 00:53:10.880
when I decided to carve.

690
00:53:11.079 --> 00:53:14.519
They got clay down there in that river, and if

691
00:53:14.519 --> 00:53:16.599
you're careful, you can carve it.

692
00:53:17.079 --> 00:53:19.599
And put it someplace and let it, you.

693
00:53:19.519 --> 00:53:22.440
Know, stash it in the river somewhere and let it

694
00:53:22.519 --> 00:53:26.280
continue to harden and become a rock. And so I

695
00:53:26.480 --> 00:53:32.079
carved You'll see it on my YouTube. There's a picture

696
00:53:32.119 --> 00:53:34.840
of me holding a heart and it says love on it.

697
00:53:35.599 --> 00:53:39.000
And on the backside, I carved a big foot and

698
00:53:39.079 --> 00:53:43.880
a whole foot, and I put it down there.

699
00:53:43.920 --> 00:53:46.599
I sat there and I in the river and I

700
00:53:46.880 --> 00:53:49.840
carved it. And this is like down there at Dodge Park.

701
00:53:50.800 --> 00:53:58.079
It's a confluence the sandy Bull Run comes into the sandy,

702
00:53:58.199 --> 00:53:59.440
and that's why I prefer to be.

703
00:53:59.400 --> 00:54:03.039
On bull Run because the water is clear. The sandy

704
00:54:03.280 --> 00:54:06.760
is cloudy and sandy. And then so I'm sitting there

705
00:54:07.440 --> 00:54:08.440
and I think.

706
00:54:08.239 --> 00:54:11.320
I was watched, you know, I talk out loud.

707
00:54:11.039 --> 00:54:16.679
To him if nobody's around, and I made that and

708
00:54:17.280 --> 00:54:18.719
I left it.

709
00:54:18.840 --> 00:54:19.599
I hid it.

710
00:54:20.199 --> 00:54:26.840
In the river and wanted the MoMA to have it.

711
00:54:27.000 --> 00:54:30.880
The mother of the baby, I thought died. And I

712
00:54:31.039 --> 00:54:34.079
come back the next morning before I'm like the first

713
00:54:34.079 --> 00:54:37.599
person in the gates they open at seven, and I

714
00:54:37.719 --> 00:54:44.480
go down there and it's gone, and I'm like, okay, well.

715
00:54:45.880 --> 00:54:48.519
Did she get it? Did you guys, get in. Did

716
00:54:48.559 --> 00:54:50.840
you like it? You know, I hope you liked it.

717
00:54:50.920 --> 00:54:56.360
And I come back again the next day because you know,

718
00:54:56.400 --> 00:54:59.440
it's hot and I can't stand being at home. And

719
00:55:01.639 --> 00:55:06.039
I took a video and when I found right where

720
00:55:06.079 --> 00:55:09.480
I had been sitting and carving that, and it was

721
00:55:09.519 --> 00:55:13.639
a bunch of a bunch of fish, a bunch of

722
00:55:15.440 --> 00:55:23.199
eating on dead steel heads. And I think your show,

723
00:55:23.360 --> 00:55:26.599
I think I think I was listening to somebody was.

724
00:55:29.000 --> 00:55:32.039
Well, maybe it was Steez, I don't know. Somebody mentioned

725
00:55:32.400 --> 00:55:41.960
how David eat bushy really icky dead fish.

726
00:55:42.000 --> 00:55:44.079
And when I saw that there, I was like, okay,

727
00:55:45.119 --> 00:55:47.960
that's a sign they that was a sign for me.

728
00:55:51.239 --> 00:55:56.199
Then there was I mean, this is this is a

729
00:55:56.199 --> 00:56:01.039
bit neu right here. This is pan seam light or

730
00:56:01.440 --> 00:56:07.079
or whatever you want to call it. When I knew

731
00:56:07.119 --> 00:56:10.199
that they were a wildcat and I.

732
00:56:10.280 --> 00:56:14.400
Wanted to bring them apples, I wanted to keep bringing

733
00:56:14.440 --> 00:56:18.920
them stuff, but I didn't want.

734
00:56:18.280 --> 00:56:20.519
It to just all go to the deer, and I

735
00:56:20.159 --> 00:56:23.199
would I'm telling them, you know, you know, I don't

736
00:56:23.239 --> 00:56:25.719
care if the deer has some I just want to

737
00:56:25.760 --> 00:56:28.199
make sure that you're going to be here, you know,

738
00:56:28.440 --> 00:56:31.840
And and I'm going to give them to you too.

739
00:56:33.519 --> 00:56:38.519
Is there any way you can let me know, just

740
00:56:38.519 --> 00:56:42.360
just for me to know that you will still be here.

741
00:56:43.280 --> 00:56:47.960
And I'm sitting in the dark on Wildcat at this

742
00:56:48.119 --> 00:56:50.599
one other place. It's a really big pool off where

743
00:56:50.599 --> 00:56:52.639
people have dumped.

744
00:56:54.119 --> 00:56:57.559
I'm dumped a trailer and people sometimes camp there and it's.

745
00:56:58.920 --> 00:57:00.880
Got the burr, got big burn.

746
00:57:00.679 --> 00:57:04.480
And that's where I got the little Admirer on video.

747
00:57:06.920 --> 00:57:10.920
And I look over and it's dark, it is black out,

748
00:57:12.119 --> 00:57:17.880
and I see a looks like a star going it's

749
00:57:17.920 --> 00:57:22.519
between these two trees and it's going up and down

750
00:57:23.320 --> 00:57:27.199
and like it's following a big paper clip, just molling

751
00:57:27.400 --> 00:57:31.239
up and down. And I took a video because I

752
00:57:31.280 --> 00:57:34.840
was trying to get it, and I didn't mention it

753
00:57:34.920 --> 00:57:38.559
in this one, and I accidentally must have deleted the

754
00:57:38.559 --> 00:57:40.480
one where I spoke about it.

755
00:57:41.880 --> 00:57:43.280
But I'm freaking out.

756
00:57:43.639 --> 00:57:47.880
I'm like, I listened to it the other night and

757
00:57:47.880 --> 00:57:51.280
I was like, wow, that that really freaked me out, that,

758
00:57:51.920 --> 00:57:55.320
you know, And I was flustered because I didn't I

759
00:57:55.320 --> 00:57:56.360
couldn't record it.

760
00:57:56.440 --> 00:58:00.119
My camera was able to see it. And it's like, well,

761
00:58:00.119 --> 00:58:02.960
I just got down town them, you know, you know,

762
00:58:03.320 --> 00:58:05.599
give me a sign that only you know, that only

763
00:58:05.639 --> 00:58:06.480
I don't know, and.

764
00:58:06.559 --> 00:58:10.800
See sure enough, I couldn't get it, but I got

765
00:58:10.800 --> 00:58:16.440
my reaction, and it's like that's genuine right there. I

766
00:58:16.440 --> 00:58:20.400
won't see uh so the uh.

767
00:58:21.519 --> 00:58:25.280
My oh.

768
00:58:25.360 --> 00:58:29.159
And I mean I've had you know, there's been sightings.

769
00:58:29.199 --> 00:58:37.159
If you mentioned that bigfoot uh map, there's some place where.

770
00:58:37.000 --> 00:58:37.679
You can look on.

771
00:58:37.679 --> 00:58:41.920
A map and there's and there's these little green bigfoot

772
00:58:42.280 --> 00:58:43.840
that mark sightings.

773
00:58:44.719 --> 00:58:48.280
There has been sightings in Boring, absolutely.

774
00:58:51.199 --> 00:58:56.159
And I had I go a back road down here

775
00:58:56.320 --> 00:59:01.280
three seventy second or something, and they passes over the

776
00:59:01.360 --> 00:59:06.400
spring Water trail and it goes up and runs into

777
00:59:06.719 --> 00:59:11.039
Palm Lad And I'm going.

778
00:59:10.840 --> 00:59:13.719
Past this guy's house all the right that has a

779
00:59:13.760 --> 00:59:17.280
bunch of hunting dogs. He's got bears neither.

780
00:59:18.599 --> 00:59:23.320
Hounds that sound like beagles, and he's got a tall

781
00:59:23.400 --> 00:59:29.840
fence and there's a bunch of arborieties running along the roadside.

782
00:59:30.559 --> 00:59:33.320
And I had something. I had something thrown at me

783
00:59:34.119 --> 00:59:37.119
from you know, somebody must have been laying down on

784
00:59:37.159 --> 00:59:41.039
the ground and threw something out and hit my Vand

785
00:59:42.000 --> 00:59:51.159
I didn't want to know or anything. Let's see. Uh yeah,

786
00:59:56.360 --> 01:00:04.800
I'm I mean I'm so glad that I document stuff accidentally.

787
01:00:04.840 --> 01:00:11.519
Even where I take my son down to is by

788
01:00:11.800 --> 01:00:21.679
Eagle Fern Park. It's right on actually north Fork Eagle

789
01:00:21.760 --> 01:00:29.039
Creek that dumps into Eagle Creek and it's a free park.

790
01:00:29.159 --> 01:00:33.440
Is free will pull off there and across the road

791
01:00:33.719 --> 01:00:35.239
is a walking.

792
01:00:34.960 --> 01:00:39.039
Path that goes up on top of abute bigs.

793
01:00:39.079 --> 01:00:42.079
A society will be right back after these messages.

794
01:00:58.079 --> 01:01:01.719
And circles around and comes back down. And there was

795
01:01:01.760 --> 01:01:07.599
absolutely nothing up there. I met a woman that my

796
01:01:07.760 --> 01:01:10.880
aske you know, i'd seen her walking and he was

797
01:01:10.920 --> 01:01:14.199
still down there when she came back down. And after

798
01:01:14.400 --> 01:01:17.280
you know she did, were you know, hurt, any weird

799
01:01:17.320 --> 01:01:19.880
noises or anything strange up there?

800
01:01:20.760 --> 01:01:27.199
Me? Yeah, she's had rockstone at her And the same

801
01:01:27.239 --> 01:01:33.360
spot I took my son there is the next day

802
01:01:34.079 --> 01:01:38.800
after I had I wanted to give them stuff, but

803
01:01:38.880 --> 01:01:41.920
I knew that there was a cat around that I

804
01:01:42.000 --> 01:01:45.480
was feeding cat food too to keep it from climbing

805
01:01:45.519 --> 01:01:47.840
after the stuff that I was leaving for the big

806
01:01:47.880 --> 01:01:54.000
hairy forest people. And I pulled.

807
01:01:53.639 --> 01:01:58.199
This one, well, a bit of a sucker off of

808
01:01:58.360 --> 01:02:02.280
the whole dead tree, poled it down, put it under

809
01:02:02.360 --> 01:02:09.840
my arm started cutting twigs to impale. There were hot

810
01:02:09.880 --> 01:02:12.480
dogs and maybe there were a litt little sausages that

811
01:02:12.599 --> 01:02:15.920
I was bringing them, and it slipped off from underneath

812
01:02:15.960 --> 01:02:18.679
my arm and I had reached back up and bring

813
01:02:18.719 --> 01:02:22.880
it down, work on again, slipped up, lost it, grabbed

814
01:02:22.920 --> 01:02:27.440
it again, finally got it done, and I tell you

815
01:02:27.480 --> 01:02:28.440
into the video.

816
01:02:28.199 --> 01:02:30.880
Of it and showed you know, I got here's this.

817
01:02:31.039 --> 01:02:32.599
And then I put over to the light.

818
01:02:33.039 --> 01:02:38.239
I broke the little chocolate wax donuts and half and

819
01:02:38.599 --> 01:02:39.800
put them all over in.

820
01:02:41.400 --> 01:02:43.320
The tree or both right there with it.

821
01:02:44.599 --> 01:02:47.719
And then the next morning I came back with my

822
01:02:47.840 --> 01:02:54.039
son and the headlights hid it and I'm like, Josh,

823
01:02:55.280 --> 01:02:55.760
look at.

824
01:02:55.639 --> 01:03:04.000
This and go out and I inspected and oh my lord.

825
01:03:04.039 --> 01:03:10.639
It was nicely woven and held. There was another little

826
01:03:12.400 --> 01:03:16.559
uh sucker coming out of the ground from something else

827
01:03:16.599 --> 01:03:20.119
that they freaking attached it to and wove it to

828
01:03:21.639 --> 01:03:23.960
so that I could just easily put that stuff on

829
01:03:24.039 --> 01:03:24.960
their hands free.

830
01:03:26.239 --> 01:03:31.000
And it sent a bit of a.

831
01:03:32.960 --> 01:03:34.880
I had a smile on my face, but it sent

832
01:03:35.000 --> 01:03:39.119
a sugar for me because I was like, wow, I'm

833
01:03:39.119 --> 01:03:42.840
looking over It's like somebody was sitting up on that

834
01:03:42.920 --> 01:03:43.840
hill watching me.

835
01:03:45.280 --> 01:03:47.760
Oh, lord.

836
01:03:50.360 --> 01:03:54.360
Yet, you know, and I found uh found a place

837
01:03:54.400 --> 01:03:58.440
where you know, I called it a bigfoot picnic area

838
01:03:58.800 --> 01:04:04.519
because there were a bunch of deer bones, bare white

839
01:04:04.559 --> 01:04:05.920
deer bones like wown.

840
01:04:06.119 --> 01:04:14.039
Yeah, somebody somebody sat here and had a meal. I've

841
01:04:14.079 --> 01:04:20.719
got I've got a somewhere on there on my on

842
01:04:20.840 --> 01:04:22.039
my channel is.

843
01:04:27.880 --> 01:04:30.239
A minute forty eight seconds. It says that it's a

844
01:04:30.280 --> 01:04:35.159
minute and forty eight seconds into it where it's probably

845
01:04:35.199 --> 01:04:37.559
about twelve o'clock.

846
01:04:37.280 --> 01:04:42.159
At night, and I have my thermal in my.

847
01:04:42.719 --> 01:04:46.920
Rolled up in my passenger window. I'm facing the creek

848
01:04:47.960 --> 01:04:54.519
and my thermal fafing back towards the road. And I

849
01:04:54.519 --> 01:04:57.440
didn't look through it really good to see how my

850
01:04:57.559 --> 01:05:00.599
view was, because it's kind of skewed. It's not it's

851
01:05:00.639 --> 01:05:05.960
to the tilted to the right. And here comes a

852
01:05:06.000 --> 01:05:09.840
big hairy person walking down the side of the road,

853
01:05:10.000 --> 01:05:12.559
and you can tell, you can see when they see me,

854
01:05:13.360 --> 01:05:16.840
and they start pausing, and they like they'll duck down,

855
01:05:17.559 --> 01:05:18.159
and then.

856
01:05:18.280 --> 01:05:23.639
They end up down in a bit of a bit

857
01:05:23.679 --> 01:05:27.280
of a dip or a bit of the bowl in

858
01:05:27.320 --> 01:05:35.239
the bushes, and they stay there. My my thermal records.

859
01:05:35.639 --> 01:05:41.800
They stayed there for there twenty minutes before I start

860
01:05:41.880 --> 01:05:44.679
moving moving the camera to get like, you know, okay,

861
01:05:44.840 --> 01:05:48.599
Le's gonna do a panoramic over the period, So we'll

862
01:05:48.639 --> 01:05:49.679
be here for a little bit.

863
01:05:49.800 --> 01:05:51.679
Then I'll skid it to the left a little bit,

864
01:05:52.480 --> 01:05:54.599
and then I'll wait alone and so on.

865
01:05:55.360 --> 01:06:02.039
And he flows the rock and he comes up and

866
01:06:02.079 --> 01:06:04.079
he gets.

867
01:06:04.119 --> 01:06:09.159
Caught behind a rock, and then I move it again,

868
01:06:09.639 --> 01:06:10.599
and that's.

869
01:06:10.400 --> 01:06:16.760
When he actually runs out in front of my van and.

870
01:06:18.960 --> 01:06:23.239
He's fallow. I mean, the trees that's in the video

871
01:06:23.880 --> 01:06:25.760
is unmistakable.

872
01:06:25.639 --> 01:06:28.920
And I've got many videos and pictures of it there

873
01:06:28.960 --> 01:06:30.119
in that little parking lot.

874
01:06:30.880 --> 01:06:37.199
And when you look at it in slow motion, when

875
01:06:37.239 --> 01:06:41.280
I slowed it down on my computer and then put

876
01:06:41.320 --> 01:06:44.280
it on YouTube and slowed it down to twenty five,

877
01:06:45.880 --> 01:06:50.519
it goes so slow that you can indeed tell that

878
01:06:52.400 --> 01:06:53.840
it is a male.

879
01:06:55.760 --> 01:07:00.440
And it goes so fast in the regular speed, it's

880
01:07:00.599 --> 01:07:02.320
just like I watched in the video.

881
01:07:02.360 --> 01:07:04.000
I'm like, who was that?

882
01:07:05.519 --> 01:07:10.559
I mean, so fast that the camera can't you know,

883
01:07:12.639 --> 01:07:14.400
can't get all of the form.

884
01:07:14.920 --> 01:07:25.239
And so yeah, real quick, real quick, because that part's

885
01:07:25.280 --> 01:07:28.000
extremely interesting. That is Those are some of the clips

886
01:07:28.000 --> 01:07:33.079
you sent to me right in the email. Yeah, okay,

887
01:07:33.159 --> 01:07:39.039
so that thermal is those thermal clips are so interesting

888
01:07:39.039 --> 01:07:42.480
because yes there is. I mean I've seen a lot

889
01:07:42.599 --> 01:07:47.559
and there is a bipedal figure in those clips. It's

890
01:07:47.920 --> 01:07:51.519
it's no mistake. Did you were you able to try

891
01:07:51.559 --> 01:07:55.039
to do any tests to see, like figure out how

892
01:07:55.119 --> 01:07:58.280
tall that figure was that you captured on thermal and

893
01:07:58.320 --> 01:07:59.960
you like comparison to.

894
01:08:03.079 --> 01:08:06.119
That is that is video?

895
01:08:06.440 --> 01:08:09.719
I show you, I show you a bit of the video,

896
01:08:09.960 --> 01:08:14.719
and I'm freaking out because I'm like, you can hear

897
01:08:14.760 --> 01:08:17.600
it in my voice that I'm in flight.

898
01:08:17.479 --> 01:08:19.960
Mode realizing how big he is.

899
01:08:20.119 --> 01:08:24.800
And I measured a stick. I had a love for wood.

900
01:08:24.880 --> 01:08:32.000
I just absolutely love you know, the stripped river soft

901
01:08:32.880 --> 01:08:35.960
or dried out wood. I've got a love for wood.

902
01:08:38.960 --> 01:08:42.840
I what the heck blew up?

903
01:08:45.039 --> 01:08:45.239
Oh?

904
01:08:45.399 --> 01:08:48.720
I measured the stick, and then you know, I knew.

905
01:08:49.000 --> 01:08:50.840
I can tell right.

906
01:08:51.000 --> 01:08:55.439
Where he comes out at. I can see.

907
01:08:55.520 --> 01:08:57.840
I show you the bow, you know, I show you

908
01:08:57.880 --> 01:09:03.600
a picture of that spot during the day, and I

909
01:09:03.720 --> 01:09:08.520
even I have somebody go over and somebody shows up

910
01:09:08.520 --> 01:09:10.279
there and I ask him to take a firm and

911
01:09:10.279 --> 01:09:14.399
he doesn't do a really good job, but you know where.

912
01:09:14.159 --> 01:09:18.800
He comes out at from his waist up. I come

913
01:09:18.840 --> 01:09:22.239
out from behind that winging my hand.

914
01:09:22.159 --> 01:09:27.920
And you can't see me. He was he was ten

915
01:09:27.960 --> 01:09:32.359
feet tall and he's got twenty prince.

916
01:09:32.840 --> 01:09:33.800
Oh my goodness.

917
01:09:36.359 --> 01:09:37.680
Yeah, he's ten feet tall.

918
01:09:38.079 --> 01:09:41.479
Remind me again. So and the area that this was

919
01:09:41.520 --> 01:09:45.319
in again, this.

920
01:09:45.359 --> 01:09:50.479
Was this was at Eagle Fern on.

921
01:09:51.239 --> 01:09:54.560
Let me see who the Eagle Fern Park.

922
01:09:54.960 --> 01:10:00.319
The name of the view. Yes, if if you're okay,

923
01:10:01.039 --> 01:10:04.439
there is a road right by it that is called

924
01:10:06.439 --> 01:10:14.640
it starts with an am. I think, uh, Eagle Fern

925
01:10:14.720 --> 01:10:26.159
Parks and I you know, I I measured, I did.

926
01:10:26.279 --> 01:10:30.560
I didn't realize that I could hold my thumb on

927
01:10:31.079 --> 01:10:35.119
my screen and keep stretching out and go all the

928
01:10:35.159 --> 01:10:35.760
way out.

929
01:10:35.600 --> 01:10:41.640
To where I first, uh encounter them. They're a wildcat.

930
01:10:42.319 --> 01:10:48.239
It is exactly ten miles as the bird flies that

931
01:10:48.720 --> 01:10:58.039
they go Ingle Fern. Okay, it is dummy, dumb, dumb. Okay.

932
01:10:58.600 --> 01:11:05.760
The name of the road, Oh, it's Kitts Miller Southeast

933
01:11:06.079 --> 01:11:08.359
k I t Z Miller Road.

934
01:11:09.520 --> 01:11:17.760
And yeah, they go up and down that. I mean,

935
01:11:17.800 --> 01:11:21.479
there's there's a spot that I pulled over. The creek

936
01:11:21.600 --> 01:11:25.840
runs you know, North Fork, Eagle Creek runs all the

937
01:11:25.840 --> 01:11:30.800
way up there, and I can hear it on It's

938
01:11:30.800 --> 01:11:35.720
not even Wildcat anymore. It's it's a forest development road.

939
01:11:36.600 --> 01:11:41.319
And the spot that I sat at was at the

940
01:11:41.359 --> 01:11:46.920
beginning of the trail one oh five going up to

941
01:11:47.560 --> 01:11:49.359
Wildcat Mountain trail.

942
01:11:49.159 --> 01:11:54.000
Ahead, and I can hear north I can hear.

943
01:11:54.159 --> 01:11:59.239
Northwark Eagle Creek sitting there, and.

944
01:11:58.640 --> 01:12:02.439
I mean, there's there's a spot where.

945
01:12:02.359 --> 01:12:04.520
You know, I took a video walking back in there,

946
01:12:05.800 --> 01:12:07.399
and I was going to check it out, but it

947
01:12:07.479 --> 01:12:07.920
was like.

948
01:12:07.760 --> 01:12:13.119
Oh, well, there's one break, I mean, bow down they were.

949
01:12:13.159 --> 01:12:17.840
They were breaking down limbs and making it so I

950
01:12:17.880 --> 01:12:18.319
had to.

951
01:12:18.479 --> 01:12:21.439
Duck underneath him. And when I ducked underneath the third one,

952
01:12:21.800 --> 01:12:25.079
I was like, yeah, I don't think anybody's wanted back

953
01:12:25.119 --> 01:12:29.279
here that And along that road is where I.

954
01:12:29.239 --> 01:12:34.479
Got that footprint, and I wish I'd had casting materials

955
01:12:34.560 --> 01:12:45.520
to do it. And let's see, uh uh down there

956
01:12:46.920 --> 01:12:51.720
at the one spot that's that's where you know, right

957
01:12:51.760 --> 01:12:57.479
across from him walking off from behind that street is

958
01:12:57.479 --> 01:13:01.039
that little gravel parking lot. You know, you can set

959
01:13:01.119 --> 01:13:02.399
three or four cars in there.

960
01:13:02.239 --> 01:13:07.159
If you could. And he knew he knew, I mean

961
01:13:09.079 --> 01:13:14.279
from from where recorded that he was right across the road,

962
01:13:14.399 --> 01:13:19.000
and you know, he's probably fifty feet away, sixty feet away.

963
01:13:19.600 --> 01:13:24.159
He knew we were there. And you know, then later

964
01:13:24.279 --> 01:13:30.239
that night he's really earlier, earlier. He's down in the

965
01:13:30.279 --> 01:13:35.680
creek and he tosses a pebble to distract my son.

966
01:13:36.640 --> 01:13:41.640
And he ends up. He's looks like he's on shore

967
01:13:41.680 --> 01:13:44.399
when he tosses the pebble, but then you know, a

968
01:13:44.439 --> 01:13:47.399
few minutes later, it looks like he's laying out in

969
01:13:47.479 --> 01:13:54.720
the creek on his back. And let's say, there's there's

970
01:13:54.800 --> 01:13:57.279
one where I got it, and I was like, wow,

971
01:13:57.319 --> 01:14:02.359
what's this. It was the one where he stands up

972
01:14:02.680 --> 01:14:04.520
big and Harry stuck like shruck.

973
01:14:05.680 --> 01:14:08.560
Oh. I called it big Boy.

974
01:14:08.399 --> 01:14:12.760
Rising for his evening, okay, And it's got a heart

975
01:14:14.159 --> 01:14:17.359
going around him up there on the on the thumbnail.

976
01:14:18.159 --> 01:14:23.960
And I went and I did a comparison. I went

977
01:14:24.000 --> 01:14:26.520
ahead and I set up my thermal during the day

978
01:14:27.119 --> 01:14:30.680
in my window like it was when I was getting

979
01:14:30.760 --> 01:14:35.079
him and or to match the same, you know, to

980
01:14:35.199 --> 01:14:38.239
match the screen. I got it as close as I could,

981
01:14:38.560 --> 01:14:41.880
and then I walked down there and I walked up

982
01:14:42.039 --> 01:14:45.319
the hillside to where I thought I found where he

983
01:14:45.479 --> 01:14:53.800
come up from but no, there was another one there,

984
01:14:54.439 --> 01:14:58.079
but it never stood up. There's a second there's a

985
01:14:58.119 --> 01:15:03.199
little bitty a dot Heath's signature below him, and that's

986
01:15:03.279 --> 01:15:08.000
where I went, and I was like, oh my gosh,

987
01:15:08.159 --> 01:15:11.560
he was he was a lot further up that hill,

988
01:15:12.279 --> 01:15:16.239
so he was he was further away and higher up.

989
01:15:17.000 --> 01:15:20.640
So you know, as big as as big as he.

990
01:15:20.520 --> 01:15:27.199
Looks coming up from his little spot up there, he's huge.

991
01:15:27.680 --> 01:15:30.439
Big for society will be right back after these messages,

992
01:15:46.560 --> 01:15:46.760
you know.

993
01:15:46.960 --> 01:15:51.119
I mean, he's two foot tallis got at least four

994
01:15:51.199 --> 01:15:57.720
or five foot shoulders, and you know, standing there when

995
01:15:57.720 --> 01:15:59.920
I when I went over with my stick to measure,

996
01:16:01.079 --> 01:16:04.600
I started, my voice is shaking. I mean you can

997
01:16:04.680 --> 01:16:07.760
hear it. And I'm breathing heavy, like I've been running

998
01:16:07.840 --> 01:16:08.399
or something.

999
01:16:09.119 --> 01:16:14.239
And I stand there and I realized, oh my gosh,

1000
01:16:14.279 --> 01:16:16.439
if he was standing here, I don't even want to

1001
01:16:16.479 --> 01:16:17.119
think about it.

1002
01:16:19.800 --> 01:16:27.279
You know. I mean, my head's you know, my head's

1003
01:16:27.319 --> 01:16:28.760
not even up to his belly button.

1004
01:16:29.039 --> 01:16:29.640
That's wild.

1005
01:16:31.359 --> 01:16:33.800
Yeah, yeah. And then.

1006
01:16:35.159 --> 01:16:40.960
You know that uh, that night that I got squeezed

1007
01:16:41.039 --> 01:16:43.000
like Sharman was.

1008
01:16:43.279 --> 01:16:51.239
Actually I just put this clip up and it's only

1009
01:16:51.319 --> 01:16:55.239
forty two seconds it says the night I was squeezed

1010
01:16:55.279 --> 01:17:03.119
like Sharman and I don't know my son's got the camera.

1011
01:17:04.000 --> 01:17:12.119
But down on the creek, somebody comes up from it's

1012
01:17:12.159 --> 01:17:16.600
it's tall, it is from from where he's standing. His

1013
01:17:16.720 --> 01:17:24.159
head sticks up. The creek is probably down ten feet maybe,

1014
01:17:24.600 --> 01:17:29.880
and he stood up on this on the on the

1015
01:17:29.960 --> 01:17:33.399
hillside and peeked up over the roots of the tree

1016
01:17:33.880 --> 01:17:36.239
and he was just there for I mean.

1017
01:17:37.840 --> 01:17:41.239
A split a few seconds or not even not even

1018
01:17:41.239 --> 01:17:53.199
a whole second. It was crazy, Uh that that was

1019
01:17:53.239 --> 01:17:53.840
the night that.

1020
01:17:55.439 --> 01:18:03.880
I got I've got the video footage of the older

1021
01:18:04.680 --> 01:18:10.159
sibling and the younger one running toward down the creek.

1022
01:18:10.840 --> 01:18:14.159
And I mean when I when this happened, I'm like

1023
01:18:14.680 --> 01:18:18.359
looking at the at the video, I'm talking to myself

1024
01:18:18.399 --> 01:18:23.079
and I process it out loud and I'm like and

1025
01:18:23.079 --> 01:18:23.760
I'm right there.

1026
01:18:24.159 --> 01:18:27.680
I went back. It was during the day, and I'm.

1027
01:18:27.079 --> 01:18:32.159
Talking to the camera and saying that, you know, if

1028
01:18:32.880 --> 01:18:37.239
that couldn't have been their mother, because their mother wouldn't

1029
01:18:37.359 --> 01:18:41.119
have been running ahead of them and leaving them behind,

1030
01:18:42.439 --> 01:18:45.439
it had to be an older brother or sister. And

1031
01:18:45.479 --> 01:18:52.680
that's when it hit me. It was like, oh my gosh, this.

1032
01:18:51.640 --> 01:18:56.560
His group is the same one from up world chat

1033
01:18:57.119 --> 01:19:02.399
and they just come down the creek and I've got

1034
01:19:02.520 --> 01:19:07.800
you can see where the stick gets tossed, comes out

1035
01:19:07.960 --> 01:19:12.840
and it bounces in the grass. And that's when I had.

1036
01:19:12.760 --> 01:19:16.560
Told my son had the funnel and I had the spotlight,

1037
01:19:17.199 --> 01:19:20.199
and I said, did you hear that? And he's like

1038
01:19:20.239 --> 01:19:25.159
what And I said, it sounded like something motioning through grass,

1039
01:19:25.199 --> 01:19:29.479
like a foot or a bunny rabbit or something, and

1040
01:19:29.640 --> 01:19:34.079
he's allware And I pointed the spotlight out to the

1041
01:19:34.199 --> 01:19:36.960
right in front of me about I don't know, ten

1042
01:19:37.000 --> 01:19:39.119
feet out and I said about there.

1043
01:19:40.079 --> 01:19:44.359
And he's like, I'm ready to go. I want to go.

1044
01:19:46.560 --> 01:19:49.000
He hadn't told me what he'd been touching on the funnel,

1045
01:19:49.399 --> 01:19:52.479
but I told him. I said, you know they're here.

1046
01:19:52.880 --> 01:19:53.960
I know I can.

1047
01:19:53.760 --> 01:19:58.760
Tell they're here, but they don't mean any harm. And

1048
01:19:59.800 --> 01:20:03.479
so well, after finding out on the video, I was like, well,

1049
01:20:04.520 --> 01:20:06.560
I was just off. You know how if you turn

1050
01:20:06.680 --> 01:20:10.960
your head you can be mistaken to where the sounds

1051
01:20:10.960 --> 01:20:11.920
coming from.

1052
01:20:12.159 --> 01:20:15.600
It was actually to the left that that stick landed

1053
01:20:16.319 --> 01:20:20.039
and I found it and it matches.

1054
01:20:20.159 --> 01:20:24.600
The one in the video, and it's from the dash

1055
01:20:24.720 --> 01:20:25.319
my van.

1056
01:20:26.840 --> 01:20:29.560
That they threw at me, Well they didn't throw at me,

1057
01:20:29.640 --> 01:20:34.479
They just threw it out there to distract. And then

1058
01:20:34.600 --> 01:20:38.920
shortly after that you wanted to leave.

1059
01:20:39.439 --> 01:20:42.600
And I did a build on my van. It is

1060
01:20:43.359 --> 01:20:43.720
it is.

1061
01:20:45.720 --> 01:20:50.039
Wall the wall, all the inside is tongue and drew

1062
01:20:50.359 --> 01:20:54.520
climb and on my door you can't see through the

1063
01:20:54.520 --> 01:20:59.439
window anymore. It's all paneled. And I made a pull

1064
01:20:59.560 --> 01:21:04.800
down table that would be held up with lean chains

1065
01:21:05.840 --> 01:21:08.840
and from it getting slam shut, because you know, everybody's

1066
01:21:08.880 --> 01:21:15.279
got to slam the door shut, it gets well compromised

1067
01:21:15.319 --> 01:21:17.680
and it would fall down and I'd have to pull

1068
01:21:17.680 --> 01:21:19.359
it up before I you know, put it back up

1069
01:21:19.359 --> 01:21:21.600
before I could open the door. And so it had

1070
01:21:21.640 --> 01:21:23.680
done that when my son got out and shut it,

1071
01:21:24.760 --> 01:21:25.960
and he.

1072
01:21:26.079 --> 01:21:28.680
Was like, you know, I'm there. You go and he

1073
01:21:28.760 --> 01:21:32.279
goes around to the to the door and he opens

1074
01:21:32.319 --> 01:21:34.039
it and he gets up. I'm like, hold on, I've

1075
01:21:34.039 --> 01:21:35.840
got to go in there and fix it so you

1076
01:21:35.840 --> 01:21:36.439
can get in.

1077
01:21:37.880 --> 01:21:41.479
And I'm wearing the same rubber boots that is in

1078
01:21:41.520 --> 01:21:45.560
that picture where I found that big twenty inch print.

1079
01:21:47.000 --> 01:21:50.760
And so I get in and I've taken out my

1080
01:21:51.279 --> 01:21:55.119
passenger seat and it is got a case in it,

1081
01:21:55.479 --> 01:22:00.520
a fireproof case, and it's put a woodstove in and

1082
01:22:00.800 --> 01:22:03.600
I've got a bench like a pull down bench in

1083
01:22:03.680 --> 01:22:06.960
the middle, and I'm laying across that one night belly

1084
01:22:07.119 --> 01:22:10.079
diagonally to fix the door.

1085
01:22:10.640 --> 01:22:16.319
My feet are hanging out my driver's door, and he's right,

1086
01:22:16.479 --> 01:22:19.399
you know. The door's open a little bit, like I

1087
01:22:19.439 --> 01:22:22.760
don't know, three inches. He can see that.

1088
01:22:22.760 --> 01:22:24.479
I'm there, and I can see that he's there, and

1089
01:22:24.520 --> 01:22:29.199
he's really wanting in, and all of a sudden, I

1090
01:22:29.319 --> 01:22:36.520
feel on my right foot a gradual squeeze, very slowly

1091
01:22:36.920 --> 01:22:42.479
and softly, like they're they're coming. They're feeling that rubber

1092
01:22:45.359 --> 01:22:48.880
they're feeling the rubber boot and that it's giving you know,

1093
01:22:48.960 --> 01:22:51.600
I'm not feeling it out, So they're they're waiting until

1094
01:22:51.600 --> 01:22:56.840
they run into my flash. And I didn't hear myself,

1095
01:22:58.479 --> 01:23:02.479
but I know I start kicking and flailing, and the

1096
01:23:02.520 --> 01:23:04.600
thought that was going in my head was, oh my god,

1097
01:23:04.600 --> 01:23:06.760
I'm gonna get drug out by a bigfoot.

1098
01:23:08.079 --> 01:23:12.119
I had him in screaming. I had to make noise.

1099
01:23:12.279 --> 01:23:16.359
Because my son went come running around the friend of

1100
01:23:16.399 --> 01:23:19.520
the land, and by the time he gets to my door,

1101
01:23:19.640 --> 01:23:23.920
I'm standing there outside on the ground, and I said,

1102
01:23:24.399 --> 01:23:25.560
did you grab my foot?

1103
01:23:26.199 --> 01:23:31.520
And he's like you and God bless them alone along

1104
01:23:31.640 --> 01:23:39.880
the pieces that he reminds me of e Or And

1105
01:23:39.960 --> 01:23:43.840
he didn't. He did not squeeze me. He was right

1106
01:23:43.880 --> 01:23:49.079
outside the door when that happened. But you know, our

1107
01:23:51.760 --> 01:23:57.359
denial system works to protect us. And when we got.

1108
01:23:57.199 --> 01:24:00.720
Home, we came out into the motor home and I started,

1109
01:24:01.119 --> 01:24:08.359
I downloaded that stuff, and I was thinking about what

1110
01:24:08.520 --> 01:24:12.720
had happened, and I'm like, I'm like, you know, no,

1111
01:24:14.640 --> 01:24:20.920
you didn't you you were I you your denial worked

1112
01:24:21.319 --> 01:24:26.560
to save you too, to protect us, because I said,

1113
01:24:26.720 --> 01:24:27.199
picture it.

1114
01:24:28.199 --> 01:24:31.760
If I had said, you know, did you grab my foot,

1115
01:24:31.760 --> 01:24:35.560
my uncle, then you just said no, and you'd feel

1116
01:24:35.560 --> 01:24:38.960
all that we had gotten in the van, and I

1117
01:24:39.000 --> 01:24:42.520
would appeal out of there. We very likely would have

1118
01:24:42.720 --> 01:24:46.880
ended up going into Eagle Creek when I turned right

1119
01:24:47.079 --> 01:24:55.880
on that bridge. Yeah, I mean, And so that was

1120
01:24:55.920 --> 01:24:59.920
the last time when he went with me, and it

1121
01:25:00.119 --> 01:25:00.680
kind of did.

1122
01:25:01.319 --> 01:25:04.960
It did to him what I was talking about earlier,

1123
01:25:06.119 --> 01:25:09.119
that it happens to some people.

1124
01:25:09.119 --> 01:25:09.399
I mean, he.

1125
01:25:11.199 --> 01:25:17.560
Fell off the face or he's homeless.

1126
01:25:17.720 --> 01:25:20.800
Last time I heard he was living under a Bridge

1127
01:25:20.840 --> 01:25:22.319
and Portland, and.

1128
01:25:22.159 --> 01:25:24.920
I, you know, I don't know, I don't know what

1129
01:25:25.039 --> 01:25:29.840
happened to him, but I know that then it messed

1130
01:25:29.840 --> 01:25:33.199
with him. I mean, he got We went to on

1131
01:25:33.359 --> 01:25:37.640
that On that way going out to Eagle from Park

1132
01:25:38.600 --> 01:25:42.319
is another place we called the fish Ladder, so on

1133
01:25:42.359 --> 01:25:46.000
the right hand side, and you know, people aren't supposed

1134
01:25:46.039 --> 01:25:46.319
to go in.

1135
01:25:46.359 --> 01:25:48.279
They've been trying for years to keep people out, but

1136
01:25:49.439 --> 01:25:53.239
good luck with that. It's fun and it's beautiful. And

1137
01:25:54.199 --> 01:25:57.640
I took him down there to see how how the

1138
01:25:57.680 --> 01:26:02.560
water was. And when you come back, I was ahead.

1139
01:26:02.319 --> 01:26:06.039
Of him down walking down the path back to the van,

1140
01:26:07.239 --> 01:26:12.119
and he was probably about thirty feet behind me, forty

1141
01:26:12.159 --> 01:26:14.680
feet behind me, and he heard growl.

1142
01:26:15.960 --> 01:26:21.640
He got growled at, and that scared the crap out

1143
01:26:21.640 --> 01:26:26.880
of him. And you know, they don't They seemed him

1144
01:26:27.079 --> 01:26:29.359
for the most part, have a hard time with men.

1145
01:26:31.359 --> 01:26:38.960
I was really surprised that they got growled at. But uh,

1146
01:26:39.479 --> 01:26:44.439
you know, oh, maybe someone will here this. Maybe whoever

1147
01:26:45.800 --> 01:26:52.920
did this will remember, of course and recognize that it

1148
01:26:53.000 --> 01:26:56.439
was them and write in the comments or send you

1149
01:26:56.479 --> 01:26:57.399
an email or something.

1150
01:26:57.479 --> 01:26:58.359
That m.

1151
01:27:00.079 --> 01:27:01.920
Was snow and it was still snow on the ground

1152
01:27:02.000 --> 01:27:07.359
up wildcat. I took my son with me and we

1153
01:27:07.520 --> 01:27:12.920
stopped at where I first filmed, got my little admirer

1154
01:27:13.000 --> 01:27:19.000
on thermal and I go out and he's he's skinny

1155
01:27:19.159 --> 01:27:20.239
and and.

1156
01:27:20.399 --> 01:27:23.239
Gotting me on his bone. So he gets pulled easy

1157
01:27:23.279 --> 01:27:26.279
and he wouldn't come out with me. So I walked

1158
01:27:26.319 --> 01:27:27.279
across the road and.

1159
01:27:28.000 --> 01:27:33.520
I find I find big, big footprints.

1160
01:27:33.560 --> 01:27:37.720
I mean they look like a shoe because the rounded,

1161
01:27:38.520 --> 01:27:38.840
but I.

1162
01:27:38.800 --> 01:27:41.720
Put my foot next to it, and you know it's

1163
01:27:41.760 --> 01:27:46.840
not a snow shoe and it's huge, and right there

1164
01:27:46.880 --> 01:27:52.439
going along with it are wolf some wolf prints.

1165
01:27:53.680 --> 01:27:55.640
And so then I crossed the link.

1166
01:27:56.159 --> 01:28:01.800
To go toward the logging road, and I'm always looking

1167
01:28:01.880 --> 01:28:07.279
down and I'm recording, and I'm like.

1168
01:28:07.880 --> 01:28:09.239
A hand print.

1169
01:28:10.720 --> 01:28:14.760
It was a big handprint, and I put my hand

1170
01:28:14.920 --> 01:28:21.199
over it. You know, it's like two inches more and

1171
01:28:21.359 --> 01:28:27.520
two inches longer fingers. And I go into immediate flight.

1172
01:28:28.560 --> 01:28:31.920
Sounding like I'm.

1173
01:28:30.640 --> 01:28:36.079
Freaking out and just run a marathon, and and I'm

1174
01:28:36.119 --> 01:28:42.239
like wow, you know, okay. I keep going go around

1175
01:28:42.279 --> 01:28:46.520
the gate and I see some prints that look like hmmm,

1176
01:28:46.720 --> 01:28:51.439
those those look suspicious, and I keep going down and

1177
01:28:51.520 --> 01:28:55.439
I didn't fit but in in my video there.

1178
01:28:55.359 --> 01:29:02.279
Is a bleak bottle to the left, and I ended up.

1179
01:29:02.920 --> 01:29:06.680
Noticing something further down the road, on the right hand

1180
01:29:06.920 --> 01:29:10.960
edge of a gravel road, and I walked down there

1181
01:29:11.520 --> 01:29:13.000
and I'm like, what's this.

1182
01:29:14.560 --> 01:29:15.079
It is?

1183
01:29:15.720 --> 01:29:17.960
It looks like kind of like, you know, a paint

1184
01:29:18.000 --> 01:29:19.760
can or a big coffee can.

1185
01:29:19.560 --> 01:29:25.840
Only it's plastic. I didn't bother to continue reading the

1186
01:29:25.880 --> 01:29:37.039
applications on it, but I think somebody wanted to get

1187
01:29:37.439 --> 01:29:43.640
some prints, wanted to do some uh you know, plaster

1188
01:29:43.800 --> 01:29:46.279
curse some molds because you can't do them in the snow.

1189
01:29:46.319 --> 01:29:48.640
I didn't realize that gotta have the right stuff.

1190
01:29:50.119 --> 01:29:53.520
And I think like maybe there was a truck there

1191
01:29:54.159 --> 01:29:59.000
and that handprint was him, you know, getting down and

1192
01:29:59.039 --> 01:30:02.399
looking around the back his track down the road at the.

1193
01:30:02.359 --> 01:30:06.640
Guy BIG's a society will be right back after these messages.

1194
01:30:23.479 --> 01:30:26.520
And then seeing and knowing that he wants to take

1195
01:30:26.840 --> 01:30:30.239
a cast of his footprint and it probably pissed him off.

1196
01:30:31.159 --> 01:30:36.199
I found a pile of I said, oh, this looks

1197
01:30:36.239 --> 01:30:41.079
like Pastor Parrish and it's powdering white. And that's when

1198
01:30:41.079 --> 01:30:44.439
I looked down and I saw that container probably about

1199
01:30:45.039 --> 01:30:47.840
twenty or thirty feet down the road, maybe forty feet

1200
01:30:48.800 --> 01:30:58.159
and you know it's colored in in small, not dense,

1201
01:30:58.279 --> 01:31:02.119
but the paper has been it looks like a pattern

1202
01:31:02.520 --> 01:31:06.319
like it got hit against something that that just.

1203
01:31:07.119 --> 01:31:09.760
Took little pieces of paper off. It was really weird.

1204
01:31:09.840 --> 01:31:14.119
But it also looks like it got angrily squeezed and

1205
01:31:14.319 --> 01:31:19.159
broken like like you know, not a pop can, but

1206
01:31:19.159 --> 01:31:25.680
but something brittle. And yeah, I think uh, I think

1207
01:31:26.399 --> 01:31:28.720
somebody had the poop scared at him when they were

1208
01:31:28.720 --> 01:31:29.600
going to take canas.

1209
01:31:30.199 --> 01:31:34.119
And there were some tissues down there too that really

1210
01:31:34.560 --> 01:31:37.079
mhm freaked me out.

1211
01:31:37.479 --> 01:31:39.560
I was it scared me out.

1212
01:31:40.199 --> 01:31:43.880
I walked down filming at night with the flash on

1213
01:31:44.600 --> 01:31:47.119
and got the tennis shoe to my foot next Jade

1214
01:31:47.199 --> 01:31:48.239
laying there.

1215
01:31:48.239 --> 01:31:51.159
And then turned and ran back. I know that they

1216
01:31:51.199 --> 01:31:56.840
have that they have been here. Oh oh wait, mind speak.

1217
01:31:57.039 --> 01:32:03.399
That was it? My little admirer squeezed me like sarmon.

1218
01:32:05.239 --> 01:32:09.960
I was like, I'd go there and I'd talk out

1219
01:32:10.000 --> 01:32:16.720
the windows in the dark, and I hung my hand

1220
01:32:16.760 --> 01:32:20.800
out the door, out the window, and I'm telling him, you.

1221
01:32:20.760 --> 01:32:24.640
Know, if he wanted a little admired, if he wanted

1222
01:32:24.640 --> 01:32:25.399
to touch me.

1223
01:32:26.479 --> 01:32:31.880
Let me know, you know, give me some sort of

1224
01:32:32.159 --> 01:32:37.479
you know, sound sign like like a baby something happy,

1225
01:32:37.680 --> 01:32:41.079
like a baby cooling, is what I said, like a

1226
01:32:41.119 --> 01:32:45.119
baby cooling, And kept.

1227
01:32:44.920 --> 01:32:47.880
Talking and little and I ended up.

1228
01:32:48.720 --> 01:32:51.479
I go back and go back a lot, but I

1229
01:32:51.479 --> 01:32:54.920
think it was about a week later. For some reason,

1230
01:32:56.119 --> 01:32:58.640
I needed something out of the back and I didn't

1231
01:32:58.640 --> 01:33:02.399
want to crawl through from the inside. So I got

1232
01:33:02.479 --> 01:33:06.840
my lamp and went around some my slider and opened

1233
01:33:06.840 --> 01:33:08.880
it and I was looking around for stuff in there,

1234
01:33:09.399 --> 01:33:14.479
for something, and all of a sudden, I hear like

1235
01:33:14.520 --> 01:33:20.439
a really loud, panting pappy puppies is what it sound like.

1236
01:33:21.600 --> 01:33:28.239
I whirled around screaming. I still cannot to this day

1237
01:33:28.359 --> 01:33:33.199
believe how I screamed. It sounded like something out of

1238
01:33:33.239 --> 01:33:34.479
a horror movie.

1239
01:33:34.720 --> 01:33:40.479
It was so loud and nothing, there was nothing there.

1240
01:33:42.760 --> 01:33:48.479
So I get back in my van and it's like, wow,

1241
01:33:48.640 --> 01:33:52.119
you know, did that that just happened? I mean, I

1242
01:33:52.159 --> 01:33:56.159
knew what it was. I you know, I knew what

1243
01:33:56.239 --> 01:34:01.319
it was. And there. You know, when you're born with

1244
01:34:03.119 --> 01:34:06.279
an ability, that doesn't mean that you're going to be

1245
01:34:06.279 --> 01:34:09.359
able to do it right from the gate. You know,

1246
01:34:09.640 --> 01:34:12.640
you've got to learn how to and you know, control it.

1247
01:34:12.840 --> 01:34:18.720
And I think clearly that that this little person and

1248
01:34:18.760 --> 01:34:20.119
this little hairy person.

1249
01:34:20.159 --> 01:34:23.880
Needed to work on their volume because it was really

1250
01:34:24.199 --> 01:34:24.840
really loud.

1251
01:34:27.720 --> 01:34:29.199
Well, I'm starting to.

1252
01:34:29.159 --> 01:34:33.039
Share it because I'm sitting out in life in way

1253
01:34:33.399 --> 01:34:37.840
to be hot that isn't hot, to stay cooler in

1254
01:34:37.920 --> 01:34:38.279
the heat.

1255
01:34:39.359 --> 01:34:41.960
Mm hmmm mm hm.

1256
01:34:46.159 --> 01:34:51.960
Oh gosh, I can't believe this. I've never I mean,

1257
01:34:51.960 --> 01:34:59.399
this is just it's a bit of well, not overwhelming, well,

1258
01:34:59.520 --> 01:35:01.079
maybe a lit bit to.

1259
01:35:01.079 --> 01:35:07.319
Be able to talk about all this stuff. I just, yeah,

1260
01:35:07.359 --> 01:35:10.520
I think about I think about all the people that

1261
01:35:10.560 --> 01:35:17.159
you've had on that you know what I can relate to,

1262
01:35:17.560 --> 01:35:19.720
you know. I mean.

1263
01:35:21.880 --> 01:35:25.279
When I showed up up there on the Wildcat and

1264
01:35:26.039 --> 01:35:29.199
that little guy was looking out at me from behind

1265
01:35:29.239 --> 01:35:33.479
that tree, you know, he I think he was like

1266
01:35:34.279 --> 01:35:35.199
he was in awe.

1267
01:35:35.279 --> 01:35:39.000
He was like, I think they can they can see

1268
01:35:39.319 --> 01:35:43.680
our oris, you know they can. You know, it's like

1269
01:35:44.000 --> 01:35:45.720
you have a neon sign.

1270
01:35:46.800 --> 01:35:52.359
Flashing hanging around her neck that you know they can tell.

1271
01:35:54.359 --> 01:35:58.720
They can tell that you're you know, you're a good person.

1272
01:36:01.119 --> 01:36:08.279
And I can't believe that, you know, all the hearing

1273
01:36:08.319 --> 01:36:12.920
somebody say that all all the bad experiences were red ones,

1274
01:36:13.039 --> 01:36:18.199
But I mean that's that's where they are. I mean clearly, because.

1275
01:36:19.399 --> 01:36:25.319
You know, someone who wants to kill you or eat

1276
01:36:25.399 --> 01:36:29.079
you isn't going to run down the road and wait

1277
01:36:29.199 --> 01:36:32.920
for you to stop you from crying by showing themselves

1278
01:36:33.000 --> 01:36:34.960
to you like that, right, And.

1279
01:36:34.960 --> 01:36:38.560
You know he covered himself, covered his face up, so

1280
01:36:39.399 --> 01:36:42.079
he didn't make me start crying for a different reason.

1281
01:36:43.560 --> 01:36:44.600
That's really interesting.

1282
01:36:44.840 --> 01:36:45.760
Yeah, And.

1283
01:36:48.880 --> 01:36:56.359
I've heard, I've heard a time or tube one hid

1284
01:36:56.399 --> 01:36:57.840
behind they saw him.

1285
01:36:58.039 --> 01:37:01.399
Sitting up on a cliff side on the road and.

1286
01:37:02.520 --> 01:37:06.560
They were sitting there holding a tree right between their legs.

1287
01:37:06.279 --> 01:37:12.640
In front of them. I mean, there's they are a people.

1288
01:37:14.000 --> 01:37:17.920
They are and you know they they have a language,

1289
01:37:18.119 --> 01:37:21.960
they understand us.

1290
01:37:22.000 --> 01:37:22.520
You know that.

1291
01:37:24.399 --> 01:37:28.720
They're I'm sure they're gurnal live longer because they are grounded.

1292
01:37:29.479 --> 01:37:35.039
They're they're not wearing river soles and and ungrounded from

1293
01:37:35.159 --> 01:37:47.199
the earth. Yeah, and and you know, i mean Patty,

1294
01:37:47.800 --> 01:37:50.600
she got a hair on her face. She you know,

1295
01:37:50.720 --> 01:37:51.520
she looks different.

1296
01:37:51.560 --> 01:37:57.479
There's there's more than there's more than just one kind

1297
01:37:57.560 --> 01:38:01.199
out there. I mean they there are and look humid,

1298
01:38:01.840 --> 01:38:07.760
that look like you know, and the end result big valage.

1299
01:38:07.880 --> 01:38:10.119
So if you go off of the just the reports

1300
01:38:10.119 --> 01:38:14.640
that i've you know, received there are different kinds. They

1301
01:38:14.680 --> 01:38:18.279
look different in different parts of the US, that's without

1302
01:38:18.359 --> 01:38:19.319
question for sure.

1303
01:38:20.119 --> 01:38:26.760
Yeah, yeah, yep, like the ones down in Florida, or

1304
01:38:26.800 --> 01:38:29.000
smaller exactly.

1305
01:38:29.159 --> 01:38:29.359
Yep.

1306
01:38:29.439 --> 01:38:33.840
The further south you get they are they are smaller

1307
01:38:33.880 --> 01:38:38.920
for sure, and reverse the further north you get, you know,

1308
01:38:39.079 --> 01:38:41.600
up in Alaska they're they're much bigger, you know, and

1309
01:38:41.800 --> 01:38:47.600
up north in Canada. But you know, Lisa, you're the

1310
01:38:47.720 --> 01:38:51.920
things you've experienced so far over the years is just incredible.

1311
01:38:52.560 --> 01:38:55.000
But I would love to, you know, just while I've

1312
01:38:55.039 --> 01:38:58.640
got you here. Have you ever heard of anything going

1313
01:38:58.680 --> 01:39:00.840
on south of you? Like I'm going to be down

1314
01:39:00.880 --> 01:39:06.119
in the Willamette National Forest soon down near like Oakridge area.

1315
01:39:06.159 --> 01:39:09.840
Have you ever heard of anything happening down there?

1316
01:39:13.039 --> 01:39:19.000
No? No, but I did. I have been listening to

1317
01:39:19.039 --> 01:39:20.920
you say how you're going to go down there, and

1318
01:39:20.960 --> 01:39:23.399
I've heard I've heard some of the stuff that was

1319
01:39:24.560 --> 01:39:29.399
that was talked about that Oh when was that guy's

1320
01:39:29.479 --> 01:39:35.199
name that he just had on that his stuff happened

1321
01:39:35.199 --> 01:39:36.560
around there, Lily Close.

1322
01:39:37.119 --> 01:39:40.319
Oh, there has been there's been cool. Yeah, there's been

1323
01:39:40.359 --> 01:39:45.159
the gentleman out by Spirit Lake. There's been the gentleman

1324
01:39:45.439 --> 01:39:49.680
where his dog got thrown up in a tree. I

1325
01:39:49.680 --> 01:39:52.560
guess that was a little bit west of of Oakridge.

1326
01:39:52.640 --> 01:39:57.199
But yeah, there's just this man. Oregon is just is

1327
01:39:57.359 --> 01:40:02.239
full of wild stories. But all so really, you know,

1328
01:40:02.760 --> 01:40:07.279
interesting stories like the ones you've shared that maybe are

1329
01:40:07.319 --> 01:40:12.359
not super aggressive, but are also very interesting to analyze,

1330
01:40:12.439 --> 01:40:16.840
you know, how they're interacting with humans, you know, in

1331
01:40:16.840 --> 01:40:18.000
the ways that you've been sharing.

1332
01:40:20.359 --> 01:40:22.760
I think you can. I think you can kind of

1333
01:40:24.960 --> 01:40:29.840
look at it and if you compare it to us.

1334
01:40:30.640 --> 01:40:42.039
We are raised being told stories, being told, you know, experiences.

1335
01:40:42.119 --> 01:40:46.239
You know, Okay, well this kind of stuff happened in Mississippi,

1336
01:40:46.439 --> 01:40:48.760
so you know that they grew up here in about

1337
01:40:48.840 --> 01:40:52.439
you know Billy Joe are you know?

1338
01:40:53.680 --> 01:40:58.079
Yeah, Billy Billy Joe mccalisters and boss of Tallahassi Bridge.

1339
01:40:58.520 --> 01:41:02.359
You know, you just you hear, you hear different stuff.

1340
01:41:02.439 --> 01:41:05.880
You're raised on different histories.

1341
01:41:08.399 --> 01:41:13.600
And you know, I heard someone h say that that

1342
01:41:14.039 --> 01:41:17.359
they are told when they reach a certain age, they

1343
01:41:17.359 --> 01:41:22.159
are told about us, little hairless ones. And you know,

1344
01:41:23.279 --> 01:41:26.439
I can only imagine the things that they're told because

1345
01:41:26.640 --> 01:41:29.000
we are not nice, or I shouldn't say we, because

1346
01:41:29.560 --> 01:41:33.560
I'm not a mouse in somebody's pocket. You know, they're

1347
01:41:33.600 --> 01:41:38.279
not nice, and I mean that's why you know.

1348
01:41:39.760 --> 01:41:47.439
They know what guns are, you know, they they there's

1349
01:41:47.439 --> 01:41:50.039
the reason why they don't like us, why they don't

1350
01:41:50.079 --> 01:41:54.319
trust us. And if they can tell, if they can

1351
01:41:54.399 --> 01:42:01.479
tell a person's intent, that says the lot about missing falling,

1352
01:42:01.560 --> 01:42:07.239
one hunted the hunted, you know. I mean when you

1353
01:42:07.279 --> 01:42:09.800
know they're looking for.

1354
01:42:09.960 --> 01:42:14.800
Another hunter and they accidentally find a young man shoved

1355
01:42:14.960 --> 01:42:17.720
up underneath the root.

1356
01:42:17.520 --> 01:42:22.279
System in a tree, and you know who's going to

1357
01:42:22.359 --> 01:42:28.960
do that. People ask about the red eyes. I listened to.

1358
01:42:30.439 --> 01:42:36.119
Some guy interviewing Steve Sdall, and you know it's like

1359
01:42:37.359 --> 01:42:40.720
they got this.

1360
01:42:39.239 --> 01:42:42.479
This little problem with the eyes.

1361
01:42:43.840 --> 01:42:49.479
Illuminating from within, and it's like, well, you know, I'm

1362
01:42:49.520 --> 01:42:53.800
a thinker, I'm you know, I'm a truth seeker. I

1363
01:42:54.000 --> 01:43:01.079
dissect and we know about you know, oppas sea creatures

1364
01:43:01.520 --> 01:43:05.199
they can change their colors, lizards, and.

1365
01:43:06.920 --> 01:43:10.399
So there's you know, there's a there's a reason for it.

1366
01:43:10.399 --> 01:43:14.399
It doesn't just happen. I mean, they're either hunting. It's

1367
01:43:14.399 --> 01:43:20.399
a survival thing. It's either food or safety. And our

1368
01:43:20.479 --> 01:43:27.000
eyes have rods in them that are for night vision.

1369
01:43:27.800 --> 01:43:31.399
And I heard somewhere quite a while back that we

1370
01:43:31.520 --> 01:43:39.600
have somewhere between seven and nine in each eye and.

1371
01:43:41.439 --> 01:43:43.920
Big for it in the sasquash, big Harry folks and

1372
01:43:43.920 --> 01:43:50.319
white being called that other stuff they can see quite

1373
01:43:50.439 --> 01:43:53.880
clearly at night. I mean, there's this one guy, I

1374
01:43:53.880 --> 01:43:56.159
haven't seen him put up any videos in a long

1375
01:43:56.239 --> 01:44:01.000
time that he's called we do it outdoors and he

1376
01:44:01.279 --> 01:44:07.439
actually he actually uh cut out some of one of

1377
01:44:07.479 --> 01:44:09.800
my favorite videos of his that I recorded, that.

1378
01:44:09.760 --> 01:44:16.680
Part where he gets he gets drug off. He's out

1379
01:44:16.720 --> 01:44:19.920
with his brother, I think, and he gets drug off

1380
01:44:20.600 --> 01:44:23.279
and you see at the end of the video you

1381
01:44:23.319 --> 01:44:28.079
see upside down a slick two feet walking away. But

1382
01:44:28.880 --> 01:44:32.479
he took this one thermal and his device. He holds

1383
01:44:32.479 --> 01:44:33.800
it out in front of him like it's for an

1384
01:44:33.840 --> 01:44:38.880
electrician or something. It's really way more expensive than mine was,

1385
01:44:38.880 --> 01:44:42.560
I'm sure, but he's told me he's like you see him.

1386
01:44:42.880 --> 01:44:47.319
You see the big guy walk along, reach out, push

1387
01:44:47.399 --> 01:44:49.600
up a branch out of the way and step over

1388
01:44:50.439 --> 01:44:54.239
probably a log. But it is pitch black out there,

1389
01:44:55.680 --> 01:45:04.199
so I think that you know, they know that they're

1390
01:45:05.520 --> 01:45:10.920
maybe they have a thermal maybe that is actually thermal.

1391
01:45:10.640 --> 01:45:17.079
Viewing wait to view, and that the AI that they

1392
01:45:17.159 --> 01:45:24.359
made the thermal imaging that I have was.

1393
01:45:25.720 --> 01:45:31.079
Reverse engineered, and they would need a big hairy person

1394
01:45:31.199 --> 01:45:32.479
to dissect.

1395
01:45:32.960 --> 01:45:37.960
And you know, I don't know, or maybe maybe a

1396
01:45:38.039 --> 01:45:41.159
sense of red, but I.

1397
01:45:41.159 --> 01:45:47.960
Do believe that that glow comes from their rots. You know,

1398
01:45:48.039 --> 01:45:52.399
they do something. Maybe you know, maybe it has to do.

1399
01:45:52.359 --> 01:45:58.239
With like when that guy said uh he was uh

1400
01:45:59.199 --> 01:46:03.680
he was spoken to you, or you know, this big

1401
01:46:03.720 --> 01:46:06.720
hairy guy stepped out. He had seen his arm in

1402
01:46:06.760 --> 01:46:10.199
his hand on a tree, and he stepped out and

1403
01:46:10.399 --> 01:46:13.000
was standing there and he like he quinched his fifth

1404
01:46:14.239 --> 01:46:16.560
back and forth like in like an anger.

1405
01:46:16.640 --> 01:46:21.039
Maybe big so society will be right back after these messages.

1406
01:46:37.159 --> 01:46:43.800
Possibly, and he felt he felt something come to him

1407
01:46:43.920 --> 01:46:47.199
like you know, what do you what are you doing here?

1408
01:46:47.359 --> 01:46:50.279
What is your you know took this type thing.

1409
01:46:50.199 --> 01:46:54.319
And he felt inclined to speak out loud and tell

1410
01:46:54.399 --> 01:47:00.239
him that he didn't intend him any harm, that he

1411
01:47:00.560 --> 01:47:03.840
only carries you know, the side arm out of habit.

1412
01:47:04.800 --> 01:47:07.479
And but the guys, the big hairy.

1413
01:47:07.279 --> 01:47:13.720
Guy's eyes went red. They started glowing. And so I'd

1414
01:47:13.760 --> 01:47:16.079
have to re listen to that and see exactly when

1415
01:47:16.119 --> 01:47:16.920
they started growing.

1416
01:47:17.039 --> 01:47:24.279
But it's you know, little marine life deep down in

1417
01:47:24.319 --> 01:47:29.159
the ocean. Organisms have something in their system that can

1418
01:47:29.359 --> 01:47:30.880
line up like a mean light.

1419
01:47:32.439 --> 01:47:37.960
So I mean it's not it's not all alone with possibilities,

1420
01:47:38.039 --> 01:47:42.560
and I can really easily imagine it.

1421
01:47:42.640 --> 01:47:47.800
Absolutely. It is so many interesting theories and and things

1422
01:47:47.880 --> 01:47:52.880
to consider that Lisa has been such a such an

1423
01:47:52.880 --> 01:47:56.439
interesting chat. Uh. You're different things you've encountered, and I'm

1424
01:47:56.479 --> 01:47:58.840
just thankful we were able to get you on in

1425
01:47:59.000 --> 01:48:02.279
order that you'd be all does share the whole story,

1426
01:48:02.520 --> 01:48:03.920
So thank you for coming on.

1427
01:48:06.359 --> 01:48:12.520
I've seen fairy I've got footage of fairies too, right

1428
01:48:12.560 --> 01:48:15.399
down there at that at that same spot.

1429
01:48:15.479 --> 01:48:21.119
Where I got squeezed, and they're on there too. They're

1430
01:48:21.880 --> 01:48:23.720
you know, first and first.

1431
01:48:23.479 --> 01:48:28.880
Video the inauperation or whatever a fairy hill I call

1432
01:48:29.039 --> 01:48:34.039
fairy hill. You know these things are. They seem to

1433
01:48:34.039 --> 01:48:38.960
be about two inches around and flat, you know when

1434
01:48:39.039 --> 01:48:41.720
it when it went up a tree. I've got footage

1435
01:48:41.880 --> 01:48:47.800
of a shrew on that same weird tree that the

1436
01:48:47.840 --> 01:48:49.199
big guy went in.

1437
01:48:49.159 --> 01:48:50.960
Front of and showed his gender.

1438
01:48:52.640 --> 01:48:55.399
I've got a shrew going up that tree. So you

1439
01:48:55.439 --> 01:48:58.119
know this one o'clock in the morning.

1440
01:48:59.119 --> 01:49:03.079
It's not it's not a squirrel, it's not a bird

1441
01:49:03.680 --> 01:49:05.960
going around having to.

1442
01:49:07.840 --> 01:49:10.960
From tree to tree, looking like going in through holes

1443
01:49:11.000 --> 01:49:14.439
that are all over that landscape.

1444
01:49:14.800 --> 01:49:19.399
Like they look like, you know, funnel webs.

1445
01:49:19.800 --> 01:49:25.119
How you know the formation of it. It is not

1446
01:49:25.439 --> 01:49:29.920
something that rodents did when they're out off from the ground,

1447
01:49:30.079 --> 01:49:33.159
away from the ground, and they're in the shrubs and

1448
01:49:33.199 --> 01:49:35.560
they're just they're holes.

1449
01:49:35.560 --> 01:49:42.640
They're little tunnels made into the foliage. And through some

1450
01:49:42.760 --> 01:49:47.680
of the naughty bought the tree roots.

1451
01:49:47.520 --> 01:49:53.600
Out there on the hill, I mean, and they knew,

1452
01:49:53.920 --> 01:49:57.119
you know, that night that I got that first solution.

1453
01:49:56.960 --> 01:50:01.199
I'm like, what are these? I'm like thinking what game

1454
01:50:01.239 --> 01:50:05.439
the mind was tinker Bell? Because some of some of

1455
01:50:05.439 --> 01:50:12.279
the footage you see a bit of a a thermal

1456
01:50:16.039 --> 01:50:19.279
jet stream, you know, like when Tinkerbell goes running off

1457
01:50:19.319 --> 01:50:22.319
and you see the glitter going behind her. If a

1458
01:50:22.359 --> 01:50:25.199
bit of a heat signature from them going through the air.

1459
01:50:26.680 --> 01:50:33.560
And that night I went home and I'm looking looking

1460
01:50:33.600 --> 01:50:38.319
for fairy stuff, and I happened upon some guy that

1461
01:50:38.520 --> 01:50:46.079
had there was a website where he's he started a

1462
01:50:46.079 --> 01:50:49.840
collection like in fourteen fifty two or something way back,

1463
01:50:50.600 --> 01:50:57.000
and all these creatures had been caught and kept and

1464
01:50:57.119 --> 01:51:01.800
in wooden boxes and there was one of a fairy

1465
01:51:02.840 --> 01:51:09.039
that had a queen or Queen Elizabeth's penny sitting next

1466
01:51:09.079 --> 01:51:09.279
to it.

1467
01:51:10.720 --> 01:51:14.199
And you look at that penny next to that figure,

1468
01:51:14.359 --> 01:51:16.520
and that thing looks like it's about two inches tall.

1469
01:51:17.520 --> 01:51:19.640
And on on.

1470
01:51:19.479 --> 01:51:21.479
My on my.

1471
01:51:23.239 --> 01:51:32.159
YouTube I have there's a video very short and it says,

1472
01:51:34.680 --> 01:51:36.560
wtf is that?

1473
01:51:36.880 --> 01:51:40.079
And there's the thumbnail is the picture of that fairy.

1474
01:51:41.000 --> 01:51:46.359
And then a piece of videos that I accidentally caught

1475
01:51:46.960 --> 01:51:50.039
something flying around in a bush.

1476
01:51:49.800 --> 01:51:52.119
That you know, it wasn't an insect, it wasn't a bird.

1477
01:51:53.560 --> 01:51:55.359
And I mean.

1478
01:51:55.279 --> 01:52:00.880
They're very huge. They're down at the water when Josh

1479
01:52:01.199 --> 01:52:06.560
is getting that well, the one through a rock when

1480
01:52:06.640 --> 01:52:10.479
it like comes up out of the water and does

1481
01:52:10.600 --> 01:52:20.199
an art and then he goes back down. I've got eyeballs.

1482
01:52:18.960 --> 01:52:23.439
That are that has got to be big boy, and

1483
01:52:23.479 --> 01:52:26.920
they're like ten foot up this tree that's behind me.

1484
01:52:28.079 --> 01:52:32.520
I mean, it's kind of all kinds of stuff mm hmm.

1485
01:52:32.920 --> 01:52:36.840
That it feels like there's gonna be definitely more more

1486
01:52:36.880 --> 01:52:39.279
things to talk about in the future. I would imagine,

1487
01:52:39.640 --> 01:52:40.800
who knows what will happen.

1488
01:52:43.520 --> 01:52:44.239
Yeah, m.

1489
01:52:49.439 --> 01:52:52.720
I pissed one off up low Low pass, did you

1490
01:52:52.920 --> 01:52:54.239
when I left the fire burning.

1491
01:52:56.800 --> 01:53:02.159
Yeah. Yeah, he hit the side of my van and

1492
01:53:02.800 --> 01:53:12.279
knocked a pot off of a shelf. I mean, I didn't.

1493
01:53:12.640 --> 01:53:15.720
I was startled by the pot, but I didn't know

1494
01:53:15.760 --> 01:53:18.079
what it was. And then the next day I get

1495
01:53:18.159 --> 01:53:19.439
up and I go out and I'm like.

1496
01:53:19.439 --> 01:53:23.039
Wow, all that wood burned all the way off. I

1497
01:53:23.079 --> 01:53:25.840
had a big pile out there. But then I moved

1498
01:53:25.880 --> 01:53:26.720
to a different.

1499
01:53:26.439 --> 01:53:29.960
Spot next door because the guy left and I wanted

1500
01:53:30.000 --> 01:53:34.920
that spot. And I was going off and I was recording.

1501
01:53:35.119 --> 01:53:36.640
I was going off and I was going to cut

1502
01:53:36.640 --> 01:53:42.079
some wood, and I found I looked off in the

1503
01:53:42.119 --> 01:53:47.840
bushes and I found a very specific, recognizable piece of

1504
01:53:47.840 --> 01:53:51.279
wood that I have out in the motor home that he.

1505
01:53:51.359 --> 01:53:55.359
Took off of the fire. He dismantled my fire, and

1506
01:53:55.560 --> 01:53:59.560
he took it, walked a little walkway down on the

1507
01:54:00.119 --> 01:54:01.960
edge of the.

1508
01:54:01.199 --> 01:54:04.000
Creek, and he threw it off in the bushes. And

1509
01:54:04.479 --> 01:54:08.079
I found it, and I apologized and told them, you know,

1510
01:54:08.159 --> 01:54:09.800
I got I got downs of water.

1511
01:54:09.880 --> 01:54:13.920
I brought it down to the fire pit and I said,

1512
01:54:13.960 --> 01:54:16.119
see here, I've got water. I will not you know,

1513
01:54:17.640 --> 01:54:18.920
I will not do that again.

1514
01:54:19.319 --> 01:54:23.319
But I could feel him, Wow, I could feel him

1515
01:54:23.359 --> 01:54:23.720
right there.

1516
01:54:23.760 --> 01:54:26.760
And did you see any tracks outside at all around

1517
01:54:27.239 --> 01:54:28.039
the van or.

1518
01:54:32.279 --> 01:54:33.000
No? I didn't.

1519
01:54:33.199 --> 01:54:35.800
I didn't look, and I didn't realize that, you know,

1520
01:54:37.039 --> 01:54:39.239
I didn't realize. I thought I had just knocked it

1521
01:54:39.279 --> 01:54:42.520
off because at that time I was sleeping with my

1522
01:54:42.640 --> 01:54:46.920
head behind the driver's seat and it goes diagonal from

1523
01:54:46.960 --> 01:54:50.119
the driver's seat back to the left corner the right corner,

1524
01:54:50.600 --> 01:54:52.319
so my head was down there, and I just thought

1525
01:54:52.319 --> 01:54:53.840
i'd knocked it off, but I didn't.

1526
01:54:55.520 --> 01:55:02.199
He got peeved, right, extreme interesting stuff. I hope that

1527
01:55:02.199 --> 01:55:06.520
that one interaction doesn't repeat itself in the future. It

1528
01:55:06.560 --> 01:55:09.960
sounds like most of your interactions are pretty peaceful, so

1529
01:55:10.720 --> 01:55:12.119
we'll hope that continues.

1530
01:55:12.520 --> 01:55:14.880
Which one the squeeze one?

1531
01:55:15.640 --> 01:55:20.319
Well, I guess the squeeze one. I mean, did that

1532
01:55:20.479 --> 01:55:22.680
leave a did it leave a bruise at all?

1533
01:55:22.800 --> 01:55:29.000
Or no? No, gently squeezed me like like a rola

1534
01:55:29.039 --> 01:55:34.720
sharmany gradual until he ran into my into my solid flush.

1535
01:55:34.920 --> 01:55:38.159
So I would say that's a peaceful interaction, right, I mean,

1536
01:55:38.800 --> 01:55:40.560
it could have been much worse, for sure.

1537
01:55:41.039 --> 01:55:43.760
Yeah, I mean it was misunderstood, but then, you know,

1538
01:55:43.840 --> 01:55:49.279
I mean they knew when I said you know me,

1539
01:55:50.039 --> 01:55:54.079
you know, a sign something, you know, the sound something

1540
01:55:54.279 --> 01:56:00.119
nice like chewing a happy teeing baby. They didn't have

1541
01:56:00.199 --> 01:56:03.279
a Korean baby to compare it to that. They were told, well,

1542
01:56:04.079 --> 01:56:08.279
I'm thinking they're around dogs, so they know what a

1543
01:56:08.279 --> 01:56:09.680
happy little puppy sounds like.

1544
01:56:10.119 --> 01:56:17.479
Right, M so interesting, Lisa, I appreciate you coming on.

1545
01:56:17.560 --> 01:56:21.319
Did you have any you know, as we start to

1546
01:56:21.479 --> 01:56:26.039
wrap up our first time chatting together, did you have

1547
01:56:26.079 --> 01:56:31.800
any closing thoughts about the Sasquatch as a you've said

1548
01:56:31.800 --> 01:56:36.119
that as a forest people. As how you you've mentioned

1549
01:56:36.119 --> 01:56:39.159
them a few times.

1550
01:56:40.199 --> 01:56:44.520
Yeah, I mean, there's more than them out there, you know.

1551
01:56:44.920 --> 01:56:49.439
I hope, I hope I never see a dog man

1552
01:56:49.479 --> 01:56:53.000
that you know. Those those eyes that I'm.

1553
01:56:52.800 --> 01:56:58.359
Looking at right now on on my page, it kind

1554
01:56:58.359 --> 01:57:00.479
of looks like at first as I thought there was

1555
01:57:00.520 --> 01:57:03.600
a bit of a blaze, a white blaze going up

1556
01:57:03.640 --> 01:57:10.560
the forehead, but that may not be. And and yeah,

1557
01:57:11.520 --> 01:57:16.760
out I don't know. Out in the sun they can.

1558
01:57:16.760 --> 01:57:17.800
Depending on their skin.

1559
01:57:17.960 --> 01:57:24.680
I've I've seen where there's one guy that I watch,

1560
01:57:25.840 --> 01:57:35.399
his name is, his name is Sunny Sunny later better

1561
01:57:36.800 --> 01:57:40.560
and he has he's got footage of the same big

1562
01:57:40.600 --> 01:57:44.800
hairy guy over years and.

1563
01:57:44.039 --> 01:57:48.119
I can tell from he's got a white beard. And

1564
01:57:49.199 --> 01:57:51.600
with his first video that was like, I don't know,

1565
01:57:51.720 --> 01:57:54.800
seven or ten years ago. His he looks like he

1566
01:57:54.920 --> 01:57:59.960
has one big dread like he's he's now.

1567
01:58:00.920 --> 01:58:04.359
It's not long and flowing or anything, and it just grew.

1568
01:58:04.479 --> 01:58:10.079
It's like his hair got taller. And when he's got

1569
01:58:10.119 --> 01:58:14.079
one video where he's got a there's a camera sitting

1570
01:58:14.159 --> 01:58:17.880
up facing their tent or facing the hill behind the tent,

1571
01:58:18.800 --> 01:58:23.439
and here's this big figure creeping in behind the bushes.

1572
01:58:23.640 --> 01:58:25.199
And he looks really dark.

1573
01:58:25.279 --> 01:58:29.479
I heard somebody describe his the same skin color where

1574
01:58:29.479 --> 01:58:36.000
it was like kind of a a gray, you know,

1575
01:58:36.119 --> 01:58:38.640
kind of Indian looking dark.

1576
01:58:39.760 --> 01:58:45.159
You know, there's no there's no brown in it.

1577
01:58:45.239 --> 01:58:48.680
I mean it's it's like a smoky gray. But then

1578
01:58:48.720 --> 01:58:54.119
when he starts creeping off stage white, the sun hits

1579
01:58:54.199 --> 01:59:00.439
him through the shrubbery and his skin turns white. Skin

1580
01:59:00.560 --> 01:59:08.760
looks lighter, so you know, these squinchy eyes. I look

1581
01:59:08.800 --> 01:59:11.920
at it and really hope that it's not it's not

1582
01:59:12.600 --> 01:59:13.359
a dog man.

1583
01:59:13.479 --> 01:59:18.279
But when I looked, I mean that.

1584
01:59:17.560 --> 01:59:22.119
That being is about eight feet tall at least based

1585
01:59:22.119 --> 01:59:23.800
on where it was standing.

1586
01:59:28.319 --> 01:59:32.520
Interesting stuff be interesting to see if there's other people

1587
01:59:32.600 --> 01:59:36.239
that reach out in the comments that I've had interactions

1588
01:59:36.279 --> 01:59:40.600
in that same Wildcat area. I've heard other I've feared

1589
01:59:40.800 --> 01:59:43.439
heard a little bit about it from other people, but

1590
01:59:43.520 --> 01:59:47.640
I think we might get some other things too. But Lisa,

1591
01:59:47.680 --> 01:59:50.600
thank you so much for chatting tonight. It has been

1592
01:59:50.640 --> 01:59:51.159
a pleasure.

1593
01:59:53.640 --> 01:59:58.960
If there's anybody in the area, in my area that

1594
01:59:59.600 --> 02:00:06.520
doesn't have somebody to go with, I would love somebody to,

1595
02:00:07.039 --> 02:00:12.880
you know, go out there, and you know, I don't

1596
02:00:12.920 --> 02:00:17.439
feel real safe, you know, being out by myself.

1597
02:00:18.760 --> 02:00:25.920
Sure, I'll put your YouTube in the description and maybe

1598
02:00:25.960 --> 02:00:27.960
people can reach out to you in the comments of that,

1599
02:00:28.079 --> 02:00:30.199
or is there another way that they should reach out

1600
02:00:30.239 --> 02:00:33.840
to you.

1601
02:00:33.840 --> 02:00:39.640
Well, they can, they can reach out to me in

1602
02:00:39.680 --> 02:00:44.560
the comments, or you know maybe if you don't mind,

1603
02:00:44.600 --> 02:00:47.479
and they emailed you, so.

1604
02:00:48.880 --> 02:00:52.840
That that's I will say that I don't do that

1605
02:00:52.880 --> 02:00:57.640
anymore because there have been ones where I have had

1606
02:00:57.640 --> 02:01:00.960
to answer hundreds of emails and it takes my entire day.

1607
02:01:01.079 --> 02:01:05.319
So I try to not do that game anymore. I apologize.

1608
02:01:05.319 --> 02:01:08.640
But the comments might be a good good deal. Yeah,

1609
02:01:08.680 --> 02:01:14.199
if you don't have a direct just keep an eye

1610
02:01:14.239 --> 02:01:18.600
on the comments. I suppose so, but thank you for

1611
02:01:19.239 --> 02:01:22.800
thank you for chatting tonight, Lisa, and I really recommend

1612
02:01:22.800 --> 02:01:27.319
people check out Lisa's channel. There's some really interesting thermal

1613
02:01:27.319 --> 02:01:31.680
footage shots on that channel, so definitely check that out.

1614
02:01:32.920 --> 02:01:34.039
But thank you, Lisa.

1615
02:01:34.760 --> 02:01:37.960
Yeah, thanks Tomia