Dec. 1, 2024

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Note: These were originally aired as Episodes 358 and 359 of Bigfoot Society in 2023.

Mark, a hunter and fisherman from eastern Texas, recounts a series of unsettling encounters with a mysterious creature near Lake Fork. He describes witnessing deer...

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Season 1

Note: These were originally aired as Episodes 358 and 359 of Bigfoot Society in 2023.

Mark, a hunter and fisherman from eastern Texas, recounts a series of unsettling encounters with a mysterious creature near Lake Fork. He describes witnessing deer acting strangely, spotting a tall, black, fluidly moving figure he initially mistook for a hog, finding large tracks, and hearing strange whistles and noises. Mark's stories are enriched by his sketches and attempts at photographing the creature.Mark discovered a deer skeleton in a tree fork and witnessed potential Bigfoot interactions with local wildlife, raising the question of what truly inhabits the woods. Meanwhile, Dan from Reynolds County, Missouri, details a different kind of eerie experience. In the dense forests near Johnson's Shut-Ins State Park, his family has heard blood-curdling screams, experienced rock throws, and consistently encountered tree knocks. Dan and his daughter recount multiple unnerving incidents, including trailing eerie sounds while hunting and experiencing silences broken by heavy footsteps. Both Mark and Dan's detailed recollections offer a fascinating glimpse into unexplained phenomena, raising questions about the mysterious creatures that may inhabit these remote regions.

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Forward slash the Big for Society and now let's get

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on with the show. All right, Big for Society. I've

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got the privilege of talking to Mark tonight. He's a

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hunter in Fisherman from eastern Texas. How's it going tonight, Mark.

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It's going good. How about you?

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It's going great. We are already talking a little bit

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before this, and I'm excited to talk to you about

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what you've been experienced down in the eastern ten.

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I've ever done for a living, it's hunting face and

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I've been spent lots of times on the water and

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lots of times in the woods and never thought my

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life would encounter anything where it's being.

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Are you able to share the area of eastern Texas

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that these encounters take place in.

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Well, you have the most famous lake in the world,

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which is Lake Fork. There's a big bottom that goes

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from Lake Fork to Telwokene. There's just a big bottom there,

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uninhabited and everything else. And that's where my recent encounters

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have happened.

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Gotcha. And if you were looking at this on a map,

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lake Fork would be east of Dallas, it looks. But

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how far back does this happen?

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This last thing encounter was probably we'll see. We're in November,

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so I'd say probably Jan because I was just putting

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out cameras for my dear to see them eating on

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the protein and kind of I give them names and

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stuff like that as they're growing up.

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Got Mark, what I'm going to do is I'm going

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to just let you do what you do best, and

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just do you mind sharing your story of what happened.

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I'd love for people to know more about it because

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I'm always optimistic and this world has so many questions

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that are unanswered, and I don't want to ever feel

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like I'm making anything up or anything like that, because

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I just happened out of occurrence and there restraints and

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just back up just a little bit. I carried up

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Marine Billow this one time, and I was telling him

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my story and he said, Mark, he said, you'd be

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shocked at what we pulled out of the ocean sometimes,

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and I said, well, I can't imagine what's in those woods.

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Backing up to my encounter, I'm putting out my game

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camps in the summer because I'm all these deer in velvet,

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and I want to watch and see how many bucks

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I've got coming through my property. And so I'm just

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lolly gagging around through the woods the middle of the

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day about eleven o'clock, because my goal was to put

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my camera out and go eat lunch, and because I

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normally start my morning's about five o'clock, whether I'm working

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or not. And I'm walking across the pond dam and

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look up and I said, deer coming at me. And

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I'm thinking that's weird. And it went to my ride

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about sixty yards. I walked a few more steps and

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then here come another one, and I thought, man, it's

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forty yards. I said, that's pretty weird. Y'all should be

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going the other direction. My deer semi tame. I say

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that they see me a lot, so they're not just

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terrified of me, but to run at me. That's a

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little bit interesting. As I'm walking across my pond dam

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and I've got my cellular camera in my hand. Now,

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I don't like to carrying my phone the woods because

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if you're out here putting up the tree ladders or

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deer stands and the ladder stands, I don't want to

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lose my phone in the woods because I'd never find it.

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So I just don't given care. And I'm in my side,

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of my side, but I do have my cellular camera

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that sends pictures back to my cellphone in my hand.

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I'm going across to put it up across the pond.

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I look up after this deer come at me, and

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I had cut a limb off of a cedar tree

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that was about face high when you're on a side

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by side, and I turned this corel on my trail

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that slapped me in the face, so I'd cut it

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off and I just flew it down on the ground

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out there in this little opening, this little opening is

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about side of two pickup trucks. And as I walked

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across the pond down, I looked up, as you would

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in the woods. You're going to be looking for a

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movement at any time. And so I look up and

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I see something black in front of me, and I'm

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thinking it's a pig. I've got a lot of wild

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hogs in that bottom. First thing go so my mind

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as it's a hog because it's black and it's blow

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to the ground. I take a few more steps and

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this thing went from ground level to a linebacker position,

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and I was just like, what the heck, because hogs

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don't stand on the high ledge or hogs don't grow

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like that, leave you skimmish and run off. And then

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I looked at it again and it stood up and

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it turned around so smoothly from facing me to putting

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this back towards me, just like it was so fluid.

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And at that point I don't know I was going

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to John Lane, because I just flew the camera down,

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pulled my pocket knife and went running after it. And

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at this time, I'm thirty yards when I think I'll running,

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it's thirty yards from me. It's stets in those woods.

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And I just it disappeared. I couldn't believe how fast

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it got away from my dish. Now, my woods ain't

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completely thick, but I could I should have been able

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to see this thing for at least to her yards

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before it crossed my fence road. And I never seen

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it again. At that point, I went back to my cabin,

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pulled out a pen and some paper, and I drew

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a sketch of what I had just seen because it

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was fresh on my mind, and I splustered. I was

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flustered pretty good because I was just like mad, I'm

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not supposed to be seeing this here. I went back

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got a tape measure after I drew the picture up

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all a piece of paper, and I knew where it

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walked beside this tree. I went over to that tree

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and I measured to where I've seen a not. The

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last visual I seen is it walked by this tree.

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Was the knot that I cut a limb off was

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even with its right ear. Now I didn't see no ears.

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It was too hairy to see any years, but about

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where I would assume the ear would have been on

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its right side. And I thought, when I first thing

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it get up to be honest with you, I thought

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it was five maybe six week talk and I'm right.

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I'm about five ten, five eleven. When I got to

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the tree and measured it lost a little socket. It

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measured at six six at the right ear hole, so

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they would have put the top of the head about

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i'd see close to seven somewhere in that range. And

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I started looking around and I found three sets of

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tracks where it went in, and you can see the

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depression in the ground, and you can see where it

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smashed the pine needles down. Keep seeing on toes, but

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you can see the outline of the foot, but no

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toes because it's just it's good hard ground. What's funny

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is one of the tracks sunk in and I stood

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right beside that track, and I couldn't sink the dirt in.

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Evidently it was I'm too fifty. And then it's heavier

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than me. It didn't look heavier than me, but it

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was because of that one step, because I couldn't make

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it go down. A few days goes by and I'm

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out again and I'm going up that little trail on

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the side by side, and I had to see a

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black flash. This is hard from where I seen it

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go into that tree and it goes across the trail.

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It was so fast it was like if you blink

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your eyes, somebody's still football across the just that's how

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I passed. It went across the trail, and I've never

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seen it go through the woods or nothing again. And

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I was just at that point, I was just like, God,

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leave now, I've seen it twice. I said, this is

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I'm gonna get it. I'm gonna get a picture of

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it somehow. So I had keen game cans out. I thinking,

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if you walk through my property, I'm going to catch

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you on one of them somewhere somehow. And I kept

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waiting to get pictured. About four days later, I'm going

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through there to check my cameras and I see it

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on my neighbor's property, just on my back fence, and

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I was able to pull my phone up and snap

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a picture. And it's a pretty interesting picture. And it

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looks just like what I seen walk away from me

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four days prior, or three or four days prior. And

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that's the last that I've seen it. Now. What's interesting

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is opening morning the Deer season on Rifles Season. I

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was listening and I've heard these things supposedly whistle. I'm

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not sure if that's any truth to that or not.

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But I heard three whistles that morning in the woods,

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and they were several hundred yards apart, and it's just

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the one that's all.

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If you were you had a buddy deer hunt, you go,

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I'm over here, I'm over here, and it's just a

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several whistle. I heard those three whistles in a triangle

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area and they come together, and when they you could

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tell when they got closer. They whistle till they got closer.

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And it could have been people for that matter, I

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don't know. But then I heard the dog. God you

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remember though, Budwiser commercial base, you go ah or something

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like that.

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Yeah, no way, it's what it sounds like.

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It's like, and I was like, look, and the next

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thing I know, I heard it make two more noise noises.

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Weird sound. I can't even try to do case, couldn't

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tell you what sounds like. It's just it wasn't a

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whoop or whatever. But it went back down in this

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bottom toward the lake. All this is happening pretty much

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in that one little corner of my property. I've got

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pretty heavy cameras in there, but I'm still waiting on

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the next encounter. But I want back up one thing

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in twenty twenty, where I had my game cameras out.

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I was checking cameras one day and I went through

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the pictures and I seen two pigs in the middle

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of the day and they're running. And I'm thinking, I'm

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always looking to see what my deer running from or

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my hogs running from. Where it's a cow ode or

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hog dogs or whatever. And I go the next frame,

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the next picture, and I see this thing coming up.

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I got a little creek that runs through my place,

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and I see this thing coming up out of the creek.

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It's sixty feet in front of my camera, might even

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be a little further, but it's pretty good ways. And

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I showed it to Jeff Meldram. Most people in the

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big foot world know Jeff Mildram. He thought it was

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pretty interesting, and I showed you some of the tracks

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that I found. He thought it was pretty interesting. But

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it looks like a gorilla, that's all I can tell you.

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It looks just like a gorilla, and it's on its

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knees and it's coming up out of that creek and

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it's got a big old gray nose, and it's got nostrils.

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You can put you from me. It's crazy. I all

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shoots you all the christures I got because that right there.

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So like some people go, that's a bird. I've never

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seen pigs run from a bird, and I can't make

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out a bird of it. I look at a gorilla

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more than anything. Everybody has assumed it in said it's

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a gorilla. And at one point in the picture, let's

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just say, you put your your thumb or your fingers

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in your pocket, like your right pocket, and how your

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or if you just put your finger your hand on

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your waist, how your little pinky kind of pops out

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like I can do it. Right now. I'm just putting

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my pressure on my right pocket of my leg, and

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my pinky just sticks straight out. I'm not even trying it,

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it just sticks out. In this picture of what looks

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to be a gorilla, you can see a finger. You

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can see a gray finger. It's the only thing that

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can be. You can follow the arm all the way

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down and there's a thing there's a finger sticking out there.

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I don't it the thanky, but you can see the finger.

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To say, I have something. I've got a neighbor across

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the street. I sell him the pictures. He's got a

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little bit more akers than I do. He was intrigued

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by him. And we're gonna keep your eyes out and

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see what happens.

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Now, Doctor Meldrum has seen the photo your neighbor has.

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It doesn't sound like this has been on the internet

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at all. No, Yeah, that'd be very interesting to see that.

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So going back to when you had seen the creature,

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would you be able to talk through what you drew

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of the creature, what details you might remember.

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Yeah, I can see you. I took a picture of

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my little drawing, which if any of the listeners right

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now have ever watched The Adamas Family, it like Cousin

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It you remember Cousin. It is just a little fur

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ball as what it was, but as black. It's so

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basically when I drew it on the paper, I drew

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it about the size of my thumb and it just

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made the hair outlines. But you could definitely see and

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I still remember this right now on my mind, just

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like I'm looking at it. I can tell I remember

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the back of the head being a little bit taller

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than the front, like a slide slow, but definitely bigger

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in the back than it was in the front, if

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that makes any sense. It's not like it's got a

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chronicle hat or whatever the people say or whatever. It

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didn't look like that. It looked like it definitely was

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tallered the back and a little shorter above the four end.

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I do, I do know.

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What you mean.

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Yeah, so it's interesting. I've never heard anyone else use

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the analogy of cousin it, which I totally know what

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you're talking about. Is there a certain may be too young? Oh,

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they definitely would be it. I just know because I

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used to watch Nick at Knight as a lot, being

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a lot younger back in the day. But anyways, what

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were the specific things you noticed about it that made

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you call it cousin it that made you jump right

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to that analogy?

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It was it's pretty hairy. It's pretty hairy. I hear

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a lot of people say, we've seen wan and it

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was like I had the mains or hair was missing.

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And I can see that because the picture of what

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I call the gorilla, there's a spot right between its

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eyes on the top of its head that a big

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chunk of hair is missing. How many times do you

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walk through the woods with a ball cap on and

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the limb knocked your head off?

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Her head off big?

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So society will be right back after these messages.

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This gorilla picture had a spot right there on top

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of its head that you would think was kitching limbs

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and jerking all the air out. It's a big old

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ball spot, pretty obvious. But the shine. Now here's something

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that I sang two different times on it. One time

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I sing across the fence after it was chasing the pigs.

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My girlfriend and I were traveling around back and I

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seen something on the other side of the fence low

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to the ground, and I just said, I don't remember

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that stuff being there, and they sing a note. It

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took off. It was lowed the ground. I seen that

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was a pig, but I remember seeing what looked to

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be like a silver street down its back. What it

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was that day across what I seen it turn and

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walk away from me two months ago, three months ago

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in June. It looked like right between the shoulder blades,

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it had about sixteen or eighteen inches of either white

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hair or silver hair between the shoulder blades. I'll never

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forget it because it stuck out big time. But now

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I also thought, could that big glimmer? And then I

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thought no, because what I seen across that pence a

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year or so ago it had the same thing. So

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I think I'm dealing with the same whatever.

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Not you the carn I can tell you that you

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said it's not a glimmer. Can you define what you

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mean by that.

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It's like if sunlight hits a horse's hair, give that

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glare shiny side shining like it's using or.

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Whatever, and make it shine totally.

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And one of the pictures I took where it's going

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the other side before it took off running, you can

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see that same shimmer. You can see it, and it's

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one hundred yards away from me. I say it's a

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hundred yard away, Maye, it's seventy yards away around. But

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I got a pretty good picture of it. You can

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zoom it in and see that that shine off the hair.

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So the hair seems to be long and black. I

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don't see any color difference. It looks like black as

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they face. It's black. We don't have bears in these Texas.

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You go north here toward Oklahoma and maybe see a

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few stragglers coming down where I'm at. I don't know

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if a bear has ever been seen in our county. Ever,

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it's a bear. Look this thing for so fast. A

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bear cann't go that fast. It have been drug by

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a truck. It's not possible. It's not possible. The steps

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worked very far apart going into that tree line, because

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it had just turned around and it didn't have to

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take but three steps, and it was in the woods,

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you see what I'm saying, So those steps were not

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like he was trying to get away at that point.

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And I never could find any in the woods because

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of the undergrowth and forage and stuff like that in there.

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But the ones going in were you can see the

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depression of them in the outline of them and stuff

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like that.

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How long would you say? The tracks were.

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Ten to twelve? Maybe okay, and I probably leaned more.

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I probably lean more to the twelve. It's just hard

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to guesstimate when you're looking at it on the ground.

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But I were a ten and a half and it

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was every bit as long as my foot. But I'm

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that's in a boot, So if you measure the butt

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was probably twelve.

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Inches about so cousin it. Yeah, we're just gonna.

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Sorry, that's the only thing I can describe it.

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I see it, go for it, I go for it.

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It sounds like you got a look at the face

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of the creature. Was the whole face covered with hair then?

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Or I never got All.

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I got to see is the back of the head.

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Okay, okay, gotcha.

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Never did get to see, but you could tell when

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it went as it turned around, you could tell that

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it was big at the back. It was just I

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don't know, my dad money slope like that. I don't know.

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It was just a gradual decline. And I mean that's all.

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I never got seated. Thanks, I want to see the pace,

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but never got to see the face. I just got

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to see the side in the head. And I couldn't

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even see an ear because if it had an ear,

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it was either really small or it's covered completely by hair.

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So when you see the picture I seen it, it's

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pretty wooly. I can't imagine how it is in this Texas.

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Eat exactly when it's moving away from you. Did you

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notice anything about the arms, the legs at all?

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No, because see the bush was at the tree limb

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that I had cut was it stands about four feet tall.

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It was most of that was behind it. So when

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it turned and went away, I'm looking from its torso

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up and it's like its arms were right up against

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its side. So when it went in it was amost

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one uniform shape, so to speak. It's not like it

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was slinging its arms left and right. It was just

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like you just turned around real slow and just walked

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and didn't act like it was scared. When it was walking.

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The night before I took off running, it was walking.

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But when I ran, that'st one either side. Hey, I

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better get her whatever. I can't believe it'd be scared

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of me. But when I started running it it was gone.

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It was so fat. I still blowed away by how

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fast it actually got into those woods, and I never

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seen it again.

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That's impossible because you said that you had you were

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chasing after it with. You said a pocket night for.

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Yeah. So when I finished, I carry a small pocket knife.

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But when I'm in the woods, I carry a big

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pocket knife. I say a big pocket knife. It's a

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five entry and it's razor sharp. I keep it served

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at all times, but it's the only thing I had.

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I just didn't know what else to do. If I

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would have it now. I carry my nine with me

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now all the time. I don't go in those woods

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within even if I'm bow hunting, I got it with me.

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It'spealy as for what I've seen. I'm just like man,

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I'm back there bow hunting. For what am I gonna do?

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Pokem running era so I won't have protection, and I

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don't know that I would shoot one. This depends. I

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don't know that I would shot. I'm not gonna shoot anything.

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I don't know what it is, period. But if it

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turns and counters me, then I had to make a

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decisions with me or him, and that might bring a

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decision on play. But I don't want to shoot one.

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I just want to get a good visual one with

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the things that's happened to me in my life in

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the last ten years, from hunting experience and stuff. Now

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I'm really more than anything. Now. My family has Indian heritage,

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so that if you don't know this, every Indian tribe

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actually has a name for it. Every Indian tribe has

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a name for it. Even Eskimos have a name for it.

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So I wasn't too much into it. Didn't care whether

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they existed or not. I've been in the woods all

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my life. Didn't care. But now that the things have

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happened to me, I started looking into it more and

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I'm starting to put pieces together that's happened to me

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through the years, thinking I've been around these things a

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lot more than I thought I had been. Some of

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the things I've happened in the tracks and stuff like that. Ooah, man,

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that's pretty interesting. I ever thought it'd be right here

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in my backyard.

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Exactly right. No one ever thinks that you talked to

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your neighbors as well about them seeing creatures on their

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land as well. It sounds like no.

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I have one neighbor that we communicate on deer, which

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I'm saying, this deer, you seeing it on your property?

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Blah blah blah. And I asked him, I said, you're

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further down in that bottom that I am. You ever

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have anything weird down there or anything? And goes, what

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are you talking about? When I showed him the picture

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of that, and he no, he said, but send me

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that picture. And so I send him the picture and

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he says, I hear some things down there, but I

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ain't never seen nothing. Oh okay, And I was like,

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you know, I'm only like five hundred yards from you. Yeah,

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I'm candy corner of your fence. You're down in the bottom.

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Not keep an eye out, see there's anything happening down there.

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He ain't never text back that he's seen anything, but

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he was like, I need to see that picture, and

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I show you send that to me.

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Have you heard any any screams or whoop? Is there anything?

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Yes?

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Okay?

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Never paint no mine, never did. I'd be down there

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hunting pigs with herble at night and hear stuff. Then like,

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what what is that? I've heard mountlines, heard bobcasts boxes. Now,

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I'll make interesting knowledges. But you can take some of

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these things. You can't put an animal to the sound,

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so to speak. And I heard some pigs screen for

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bloody and murder back there. And we've had some pigs

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show up with ear and missing. I assume that was

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home hunters. But we've had some pigs that were dead

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found dead on my property and they had an ear missing,

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and I thought that was pretty strange. But I don't

457
00:24:41.640 --> 00:24:43.920
know that can be hog hunters taking the ears of

458
00:24:43.960 --> 00:24:45.000
trophy or whatever.

459
00:24:45.640 --> 00:24:48.359
It sounds like you're you've got an eye out on

460
00:24:48.400 --> 00:24:52.720
your property. Now you're looking for something to show up,

461
00:24:52.759 --> 00:24:53.519
which is cool.

462
00:24:54.200 --> 00:24:55.480
Ten cameras.

463
00:24:55.680 --> 00:24:59.599
Yeah, something I also wanted to talk to you about.

464
00:25:00.200 --> 00:25:03.359
And this is getting off subject for just for a

465
00:25:03.400 --> 00:25:07.759
little bit, but just because that area of Texas is

466
00:25:07.799 --> 00:25:11.680
also known for some other things as well, and some

467
00:25:11.920 --> 00:25:16.720
just throw it out there. If you've ever seen or

468
00:25:16.799 --> 00:25:21.599
heard anyone that's had an encounter with like an upbreak

469
00:25:21.720 --> 00:25:25.319
canine ever or something called it dog man.

470
00:25:25.559 --> 00:25:30.839
No, now I heard this dog man theory, and I'm

471
00:25:30.880 --> 00:25:32.839
not going to say it don't exist again. I'm gonna

472
00:25:32.880 --> 00:25:37.960
be optimistic. I'm even optimistic that most likely a unicorn

473
00:25:38.000 --> 00:25:39.960
don't exist, but you're sure, as I say you don't,

474
00:25:40.440 --> 00:25:43.200
somebody will find one. So I'm not going I'm always

475
00:25:43.200 --> 00:25:46.440
gonna be optimistic because of that. But I never heard

476
00:25:46.440 --> 00:25:50.559
anything like that. What's pretty interesting, Teremiah, because now I've

477
00:25:50.960 --> 00:25:53.640
had this and started looking into it. I hear these

478
00:25:53.799 --> 00:25:57.880
so called experts say they follow waterways. You got to

479
00:25:57.920 --> 00:26:01.880
think about where I'm at, Sabine to the south, we

480
00:26:01.960 --> 00:26:05.039
have to suffer to the north, and in the Trinity

481
00:26:05.519 --> 00:26:08.839
too far back that way to the west, we're kind

482
00:26:08.839 --> 00:26:10.240
of in the middle of a lot. And of course

483
00:26:10.240 --> 00:26:14.000
you got cattle Lake the Falkns Munster out of Arkansas,

484
00:26:14.160 --> 00:26:17.559
the falk Muster, or the legend of Boggie Creek's Lessen

485
00:26:17.880 --> 00:26:21.880
that's less than seventy miles from me, or where Bonby

486
00:26:21.960 --> 00:26:23.759
Creek runs into Cattle Lake.

487
00:26:24.240 --> 00:26:26.839
Oh, there's no doubt about it that you are in

488
00:26:27.039 --> 00:26:30.799
the right area where a lot of stuff happens. So

489
00:26:30.799 --> 00:26:33.960
it's not the question that it doesn't sound like you

490
00:26:34.000 --> 00:26:36.680
have a zoo right next door where like a gorilla

491
00:26:36.839 --> 00:26:38.480
could get loose from right.

492
00:26:40.119 --> 00:26:42.759
When people said that gorilla. When I show people in

493
00:26:42.799 --> 00:26:45.039
that picture that one, they said that somebody of bus

494
00:26:45.039 --> 00:26:47.680
had got one. Look got loose at the zoo, I said,

495
00:26:47.680 --> 00:26:52.440
the zoo had a Yeah, well there's been one gorilla

496
00:26:52.480 --> 00:26:55.279
and the zoo lost around here, ever, So don't make up.

497
00:26:55.160 --> 00:27:00.319
Stories, gotcha. The other question I've been throwing out just

498
00:27:00.359 --> 00:27:04.480
for fun, is any stories you've ever heard of people

499
00:27:05.519 --> 00:27:08.640
seeing something that resembles like a hyena.

500
00:27:09.240 --> 00:27:10.319
You're talking about like a chu.

501
00:27:11.079 --> 00:27:14.119
Not chup of cobras are awesome, but this would this

502
00:27:14.160 --> 00:27:15.640
would be that's a good.

503
00:27:15.759 --> 00:27:17.680
That's a good around here.

504
00:27:17.680 --> 00:27:21.000
Okay, Yeah, usually a hyaena sighting would be totally different

505
00:27:21.000 --> 00:27:24.279
than a chupacabra. But yeah, I guess down there you're gonna.

506
00:27:25.839 --> 00:27:30.279
There's people that actually bread Highenas and I wouldn't be

507
00:27:30.279 --> 00:27:32.079
shocked if some in Texas.

508
00:27:32.359 --> 00:27:36.119
Oh yeah, that's a good point. That's a good point. Yeah.

509
00:27:36.440 --> 00:27:39.279
I've seen a video of people that random and they

510
00:27:39.359 --> 00:27:40.480
got them his pants.

511
00:27:40.960 --> 00:27:46.079
We were talking earlier about you've had some some interesting

512
00:27:46.200 --> 00:27:49.799
things you've seen up in in Oklahoma as well. Do

513
00:27:49.839 --> 00:27:52.160
you mind sharing about that for a bit?

514
00:27:52.880 --> 00:27:57.039
Now, that's really where all this stars, that's where it

515
00:27:57.119 --> 00:28:01.640
got interesting through the years. And and like I said,

516
00:28:01.640 --> 00:28:04.400
who would have ever follow I could have had this

517
00:28:04.440 --> 00:28:08.279
happen in my backyard. And I tell people, you can't

518
00:28:08.359 --> 00:28:11.559
unsee what you've seen. You can't do it. And you

519
00:28:11.680 --> 00:28:13.880
might make up stories, but you're making up a story

520
00:28:13.880 --> 00:28:16.079
on something you never seen. But when you've seen it.

521
00:28:17.240 --> 00:28:19.559
People that know me, and if you ask them about me,

522
00:28:19.599 --> 00:28:21.599
they're going to tell you, hey, that's the most time

523
00:28:21.599 --> 00:28:24.640
this guy you're ever gonna meet. My people tell me

524
00:28:24.680 --> 00:28:27.079
I'm too honest. My daddy told me not to ever

525
00:28:27.160 --> 00:28:28.799
tell a lie. You tell a lie, you got to

526
00:28:28.839 --> 00:28:32.160
cover it up with another one. So I just tell

527
00:28:32.200 --> 00:28:33.559
it like it is, and you can take it for

528
00:28:33.640 --> 00:28:36.400
what it is. And that's just what it is. So

529
00:28:36.480 --> 00:28:38.799
getting to my open Alma story, but I want to

530
00:28:38.839 --> 00:28:44.240
start from not the exact beginning, but it's part of

531
00:28:44.279 --> 00:28:48.160
the beginning. So I'm this old man was a friend

532
00:28:48.160 --> 00:28:49.960
of my best friend, and he told us to come up,

533
00:28:50.039 --> 00:28:52.920
dear hunt with he don't come up here, he goes,

534
00:28:52.920 --> 00:28:55.720
I stay up every boy himself. He bought this acreage.

535
00:28:55.799 --> 00:28:59.160
I can't remember how many acreages it is total, but

536
00:28:59.319 --> 00:29:02.960
it's kind of on the neck south of Tulsa. And

537
00:29:03.880 --> 00:29:06.640
he had told us when he bought it, he keeps

538
00:29:06.680 --> 00:29:09.920
all the cows on this side because on the other

539
00:29:10.000 --> 00:29:13.119
side of the creek, it was just he'd lose a

540
00:29:13.200 --> 00:29:14.920
cow if that got over there, so he would never

541
00:29:15.000 --> 00:29:17.720
go over there. And he's a lazy old man, so

542
00:29:17.759 --> 00:29:19.880
if he's going to hunt, he's sure ain't going back there,

543
00:29:19.880 --> 00:29:22.279
putting no effort in it. He did hunt the meta,

544
00:29:23.079 --> 00:29:25.599
but he had told us when he bought that place,

545
00:29:25.640 --> 00:29:28.839
and he had found a human skeleton up in these

546
00:29:28.920 --> 00:29:31.839
rock foremotions and had a spine on it, and I

547
00:29:31.880 --> 00:29:35.000
thought that's pretty cool. I'd like, where's that at? And

548
00:29:35.039 --> 00:29:36.599
that went and looked far. He told me I never

549
00:29:36.640 --> 00:29:39.000
did find it, and everything else, So that kind of

550
00:29:39.000 --> 00:29:41.880
comes into play with what may have happened to me

551
00:29:42.680 --> 00:29:44.480
or what has happened to me. It may have some

552
00:29:45.119 --> 00:29:47.440
instances with that for that matter, might have been a

553
00:29:47.519 --> 00:29:50.880
Julnile one for that matter. Here's how the story goes.

554
00:29:50.960 --> 00:29:53.359
We're uting been there hunting. We probably hunted there for

555
00:29:53.400 --> 00:29:58.160
five six years. Never nothing weird, just typical deer hunting.

556
00:29:58.880 --> 00:30:00.920
Walk on them as a two weeks season. So we're

557
00:30:00.920 --> 00:30:03.680
there during the week of Thanksgiving and then it's over.

558
00:30:03.839 --> 00:30:05.960
It's a week after the week of and a week

559
00:30:06.039 --> 00:30:09.240
after so we go off, or we'd hunt for three

560
00:30:09.319 --> 00:30:11.119
or four five days and then go up to another place

561
00:30:11.200 --> 00:30:11.880
now my home and.

562
00:30:11.920 --> 00:30:15.039
Hunt again big so society would be right back after

563
00:30:15.079 --> 00:30:15.839
these messages.

564
00:30:27.599 --> 00:30:36.319
We're walking down the fence row before daylight or right

565
00:30:36.400 --> 00:30:39.119
at daylight. I'm going to cross this big creek which

566
00:30:39.160 --> 00:30:41.440
is about a twenty put in up on the other

567
00:30:41.519 --> 00:30:44.119
side that turns into an old logging road. So there

568
00:30:44.200 --> 00:30:46.720
used to be an old bridge at one time there

569
00:30:46.759 --> 00:30:49.599
and it's flowed out, but it's were logging roads. On

570
00:30:49.640 --> 00:30:52.000
the night and I had a deer feeder sitting way

571
00:30:52.000 --> 00:30:54.400
back in there, and it took me a pretty good

572
00:30:54.400 --> 00:30:57.319
little job to get back there in the bark, and

573
00:30:57.400 --> 00:31:00.680
it was I'm not scared ahead that I know of,

574
00:31:00.839 --> 00:31:02.920
but it was pretty scary walking in there in the

575
00:31:03.000 --> 00:31:04.640
dark and you can't see your hand in front of

576
00:31:04.640 --> 00:31:07.799
your face. We're walking down the fence row and all

577
00:31:07.799 --> 00:31:10.319
of a sudden, his towels come running over that. It's like,

578
00:31:10.960 --> 00:31:12.480
not like we were going to feed him, but like

579
00:31:12.519 --> 00:31:17.160
a stampede, and they're just moon and we're like, my

580
00:31:17.200 --> 00:31:19.359
best friend, he's a city boy, so he has no

581
00:31:19.440 --> 00:31:23.799
idea about cows, nothing whatsoever. He looks at me and says,

582
00:31:23.799 --> 00:31:26.119
what's wrong with them cows? I was like, dude, I

583
00:31:26.119 --> 00:31:30.079
don't know. I've hunted all over America. I've ran the

584
00:31:30.119 --> 00:31:35.079
deer us for years and I've seen them around mountain lions, bears, wolves, cows.

585
00:31:35.519 --> 00:31:37.400
I ain't never seen no cows a like like these.

586
00:31:37.400 --> 00:31:40.319
I guess they've got the mad cow disease making a

587
00:31:40.400 --> 00:31:43.960
humorous part of it. They ran back cow and you

588
00:31:44.000 --> 00:31:46.440
can stillhou with them in the pasture a little bit

589
00:31:46.640 --> 00:31:50.400
because it's starting to get it's not daylight. The sun

590
00:31:50.519 --> 00:31:53.680
is coming up, so the skylines right, but the lower

591
00:31:53.759 --> 00:31:56.920
base is dark still. They make them about a I

592
00:31:56.920 --> 00:32:00.559
don't know, fifteen to seventy five yards circle. And they

593
00:32:00.599 --> 00:32:03.279
came back and they ran into that bombed wire fence

594
00:32:03.319 --> 00:32:06.559
at full speed, just like you were hurting buffalo off

595
00:32:06.559 --> 00:32:10.039
the cliff or whatever, and they cut theirself. They bit

596
00:32:10.200 --> 00:32:13.279
three of the tea posts over with the weight of

597
00:32:13.319 --> 00:32:16.759
them hit it at a pretty good speed. We jumped back.

598
00:32:17.839 --> 00:32:22.480
What the heck? And my buddy says, man something, I

599
00:32:23.000 --> 00:32:24.839
rolled the cows, and he said, what are you thinking?

600
00:32:24.880 --> 00:32:26.359
I said, dude, I don't tell you. I don't know,

601
00:32:26.839 --> 00:32:30.279
but I tell you this, whatever scaring them might scare me.

602
00:32:30.400 --> 00:32:32.079
I ain't going in the woods till I seek it.

603
00:32:32.119 --> 00:32:34.359
I just got a bowl air. You got a gun.

604
00:32:34.519 --> 00:32:36.839
I got a bowl air. I ain't going in there.

605
00:32:36.839 --> 00:32:38.839
I didn't even have my pistol on it. He said,

606
00:32:38.880 --> 00:32:39.960
I'm going to go get the blind.

607
00:32:40.000 --> 00:32:40.559
He rolled out and.

608
00:32:40.519 --> 00:32:42.720
Gets the bike. I wait there for a little bit.

609
00:32:42.960 --> 00:32:45.279
I decided I'm better get going because it's a long

610
00:32:45.319 --> 00:32:48.279
ways back here to my feet and probably already gone off,

611
00:32:48.319 --> 00:32:50.559
and I'm gonna walk up and scare of the deer

612
00:32:50.640 --> 00:32:53.200
I'm trying to kill. I start up this logging row.

613
00:32:53.400 --> 00:32:56.880
It's one of them cool mornings, not a hot morning

614
00:32:56.920 --> 00:32:59.680
and not a cold morning, but a little hard for

615
00:32:59.759 --> 00:33:02.880
a jacket if you're going to be hiking, Like I

616
00:33:03.079 --> 00:33:05.359
was three quarters of a mile to get to that

617
00:33:05.440 --> 00:33:08.640
stand back there. So I'm going up this logging road.

618
00:33:09.200 --> 00:33:11.200
And I walking up the logging road, and I stopped

619
00:33:11.200 --> 00:33:13.240
to take my jacket off to stick get in my backpack.

620
00:33:13.279 --> 00:33:15.799
And I understand when I get back there, I carry

621
00:33:15.799 --> 00:33:18.519
a backpack, and I'm must stay all day. I ain't

622
00:33:18.519 --> 00:33:20.319
going back there for two hours in the morning, two

623
00:33:20.359 --> 00:33:23.920
hours even, I'm staying all day. So I stick in

624
00:33:23.960 --> 00:33:26.000
my jacket into my backpack, and I'm out in the

625
00:33:26.000 --> 00:33:27.880
middle of that logging road. And that's when I look

626
00:33:28.000 --> 00:33:30.440
up and I see a big track right in the

627
00:33:30.440 --> 00:33:33.200
middle of that road. And it's obvious what made it.

628
00:33:33.680 --> 00:33:36.720
You can count all five toes. I didn't measure it,

629
00:33:36.759 --> 00:33:39.480
but I guess it could be fifteen inches, and it's

630
00:33:39.519 --> 00:33:43.319
about seven to eight inches wide. I see it, and

631
00:33:43.400 --> 00:33:45.920
I'm just like an, oh, my lord, and I turn

632
00:33:46.000 --> 00:33:48.640
in a little can I see which direction it went,

633
00:33:48.799 --> 00:33:50.599
And it went off the road and it's storing towards

634
00:33:50.599 --> 00:33:55.279
this rock formation over on the hill there. Those tracks

635
00:33:55.640 --> 00:33:59.079
were between three and a half and four feet apart

636
00:33:59.319 --> 00:34:03.160
in strive and when it stepped off the road, it

637
00:34:03.359 --> 00:34:07.880
sunk like three inches. It sucks, And I was like,

638
00:34:08.159 --> 00:34:10.559
oh man, And it was just when it got off

639
00:34:10.559 --> 00:34:13.840
that logging roll and started going toward that hill. You

640
00:34:13.840 --> 00:34:16.360
can see how much it was sinking in the ground

641
00:34:16.360 --> 00:34:19.760
and how much money is flicked. You run a horse

642
00:34:19.800 --> 00:34:21.840
through a muddy area, it just drops it up. They

643
00:34:21.880 --> 00:34:25.400
sink and blud goes everywhere and all that. So I like, man,

644
00:34:25.480 --> 00:34:27.559
So I found a rock and I put it on

645
00:34:27.599 --> 00:34:29.239
that track, and I said, I'm want to bring my

646
00:34:29.280 --> 00:34:31.119
best friend back in there and show them that. Now

647
00:34:31.159 --> 00:34:34.400
I know what is scared those cows. That's what scared

648
00:34:34.440 --> 00:34:37.480
those cows. And in front of me somehow. So I

649
00:34:37.559 --> 00:34:40.000
walk up the logging road about twenty more yards out here,

650
00:34:41.239 --> 00:34:46.840
just like a baseball back hits lood. I didn't know

651
00:34:46.880 --> 00:34:49.320
what that was, didn't that what, didn't care. I just

652
00:34:49.320 --> 00:34:51.239
want to get back to my stand. But to be

653
00:34:51.280 --> 00:34:55.039
honest with you, after seeing that track, I'm not deer

654
00:34:55.119 --> 00:34:58.639
hunting anymore. I'm looking for what made that track, and

655
00:34:58.719 --> 00:35:02.440
I want to see it before it's me. So I'm

656
00:35:02.440 --> 00:35:04.239
going back in there and I get my stand. I

657
00:35:04.239 --> 00:35:07.719
stay all day, I'm looking. I've seen a few deer,

658
00:35:07.800 --> 00:35:10.239
but didn't see a lot that day. It didn't seem

659
00:35:10.280 --> 00:35:11.960
like they were moving around very good. And it might

660
00:35:12.079 --> 00:35:14.800
be because this thing was in the barrier. I come

661
00:35:14.840 --> 00:35:16.559
out of there, told my best friend. And next day

662
00:35:16.599 --> 00:35:18.719
I said, I know what's scared when we got out

663
00:35:18.719 --> 00:35:20.519
of the woods at nights and I know what scared

664
00:35:20.519 --> 00:35:23.960
of those cows. He said, what's that? I said, Bigfoot?

665
00:35:24.800 --> 00:35:31.239
He said Bigfoot? You bigfoot? I said, Scott. I said, hew, hey,

666
00:35:31.360 --> 00:35:34.159
years we've been up together, he said about thirty. I

667
00:35:34.199 --> 00:35:37.400
was like, have you ever heard me say anything about bigfoot?

668
00:35:37.400 --> 00:35:40.480
And he said nope. I said, I'll tell you. I've

669
00:35:40.519 --> 00:35:42.440
got a track up there in that logging road. You

670
00:35:42.480 --> 00:35:44.320
it's going to freak you out when you see it.

671
00:35:45.039 --> 00:35:48.199
You're gonna look at me and go up. And I said,

672
00:35:48.199 --> 00:35:49.559
you just wait, I'll show it to you more. I

673
00:35:49.559 --> 00:35:52.280
got a rock way up in the road, looking where's it?

674
00:35:52.800 --> 00:35:54.440
So I took it back in there and showed him

675
00:35:54.519 --> 00:35:58.400
the next day. That's pretty interesting. He said, that's pretty interesting.

676
00:35:58.840 --> 00:36:01.360
Still skeptical, didn't want I believe it, but it was

677
00:36:01.400 --> 00:36:03.719
like because he thought I might have been playing office.

678
00:36:03.760 --> 00:36:06.480
I'm not a holter. I'm a christer sometime, but I'm

679
00:36:06.519 --> 00:36:10.119
not a holster. So he's that's pretty interesting. So we

680
00:36:10.239 --> 00:36:14.719
went on the honey never seen nothing else. Blah blah blah.

681
00:36:15.119 --> 00:36:18.000
We try to go back a year or two after

682
00:36:18.239 --> 00:36:20.960
and they have a big flood and we can't get

683
00:36:21.000 --> 00:36:22.480
to the other side of the creek where we have

684
00:36:22.599 --> 00:36:24.719
two bowl feeders over there, one for him and one

685
00:36:24.760 --> 00:36:27.599
for me if he decides boa And so we couldn't

686
00:36:27.599 --> 00:36:29.920
get back there and fill them up because of the flood.

687
00:36:30.920 --> 00:36:32.960
So I said, I'll go for the summertime when the

688
00:36:33.000 --> 00:36:36.760
creek is low down and there's no no water, and

689
00:36:36.800 --> 00:36:38.360
there's a very little bit of water in it. There's

690
00:36:38.400 --> 00:36:40.800
always water in it, but it won't be a bunch.

691
00:36:41.639 --> 00:36:44.280
So I come back a back ten years later and

692
00:36:45.519 --> 00:36:48.840
I come in. I think it's June or July. So

693
00:36:48.880 --> 00:36:51.360
I pulled down my four wheeler off and I'm trying

694
00:36:51.400 --> 00:36:53.880
to get my four wheeler loaded up the cord and

695
00:36:53.920 --> 00:36:55.920
I go down the creek and I'm looking around to

696
00:36:55.920 --> 00:36:59.079
see where that I used to get a good rud

697
00:36:59.159 --> 00:37:01.480
up that embankment of forty five and catch up logging

698
00:37:01.559 --> 00:37:03.239
road and go back and fill my feet er up.

699
00:37:03.880 --> 00:37:05.880
It all washed out when we had a big flood,

700
00:37:05.920 --> 00:37:08.679
it just washed the whole embankment out. So I'm walking

701
00:37:08.719 --> 00:37:13.760
around in the creek and I hear this. At that point,

702
00:37:13.920 --> 00:37:16.239
I had a forty caliber on my side because I

703
00:37:16.280 --> 00:37:17.960
knew I was gonna see a snake on that creek

704
00:37:18.079 --> 00:37:20.599
somewhere somehow, so I always carried my pistol for seating

705
00:37:20.599 --> 00:37:23.159
snakes in the summertime. This thing was up on this

706
00:37:23.320 --> 00:37:27.280
ledge yet grounded, I mean, and it sounds like a dog,

707
00:37:28.000 --> 00:37:30.440
but it sounded like a bull. At the same time,

708
00:37:31.000 --> 00:37:32.840
I know we don't have no cattle on that side

709
00:37:32.880 --> 00:37:37.199
of the creek, so whatever this is, I'm thinking, huh,

710
00:37:37.599 --> 00:37:40.119
I've never heard anything like that. But I got a

711
00:37:40.159 --> 00:37:43.119
forty caval I'm a pretty good shot. Don't mess with

712
00:37:43.119 --> 00:37:47.360
me or I'll shootee whatever. It doesn't about probably four

713
00:37:47.480 --> 00:37:52.360
times but in about a twenty minute span. And at

714
00:37:52.360 --> 00:37:54.960
that time I start walking down the creek to look

715
00:37:55.000 --> 00:37:57.079
for another place to get my four whee or up

716
00:37:57.119 --> 00:38:01.199
the creeks out, and I can hear it walking with

717
00:38:01.239 --> 00:38:03.039
me up on top of this hee O can't see it.

718
00:38:03.079 --> 00:38:05.440
I'm done it. It's twenty foot deep in that creek

719
00:38:05.480 --> 00:38:09.440
probably or at least a thing, and I can hear

720
00:38:09.480 --> 00:38:11.280
it walking through the brush up there, and I go

721
00:38:11.360 --> 00:38:13.639
down this way and then I hear it's hollering me,

722
00:38:14.039 --> 00:38:18.480
it's tracking me or whatever. Now that's pretty interesting that

723
00:38:18.519 --> 00:38:22.519
whatever it is is definitely paying attention to me. And

724
00:38:22.599 --> 00:38:25.199
at that point I turned and I looked at when

725
00:38:25.239 --> 00:38:28.599
I sang seven sets of tracks coming off the side

726
00:38:28.599 --> 00:38:33.440
of that creek bluff, and they were going in an

727
00:38:33.440 --> 00:38:36.000
angle instead of just jumping straight off. It was like

728
00:38:36.039 --> 00:38:37.760
I did before, I get a run at it an

729
00:38:37.760 --> 00:38:42.159
angle and go up. These were coming down. So I

730
00:38:42.199 --> 00:38:44.719
went over there and put my boot beside him, and

731
00:38:44.760 --> 00:38:48.239
they were about eleven inches long. But what I thought

732
00:38:48.280 --> 00:38:52.639
was weird about those is that the toes were long

733
00:38:52.760 --> 00:38:56.519
like my fingers. They weren't like big and right. They

734
00:38:56.519 --> 00:38:59.880
were really long and skinnym you can see the big toe,

735
00:39:00.000 --> 00:39:02.440
it was more like a thumb. The other ones were

736
00:39:02.519 --> 00:39:04.840
riding along the skin, and they were about three of

737
00:39:05.280 --> 00:39:06.960
maybe three and a half of the part. They didn't

738
00:39:07.000 --> 00:39:09.519
have near's biggest stride as of one I've seen years

739
00:39:09.880 --> 00:39:13.599
by prior, And I was like an old man, there's

740
00:39:13.639 --> 00:39:15.800
a different one. Because I knew those weren't from the

741
00:39:15.840 --> 00:39:21.320
same one I've seen earlier several years before, and I

742
00:39:21.360 --> 00:39:25.159
had taken pictures of the ones that I found three

743
00:39:25.239 --> 00:39:27.719
or four years before, and I had them on one

744
00:39:27.760 --> 00:39:30.440
of my phones, and I had lost I'd transferred to

745
00:39:30.480 --> 00:39:33.679
my pictures from one phone to another, and then sometimes

746
00:39:33.679 --> 00:39:35.800
with my game cams, go with my cell cam, and

747
00:39:35.840 --> 00:39:37.800
sometimes I just go through there and to deleave pictures,

748
00:39:38.079 --> 00:39:40.679
and I either deleted them or they got removed when

749
00:39:40.679 --> 00:39:43.119
I switched falls. So I didn't have those first sets

750
00:39:43.159 --> 00:39:46.199
of tracks. I had them in an email because I

751
00:39:46.360 --> 00:39:48.159
emailed them just a couple of tables, so I can

752
00:39:48.239 --> 00:39:51.000
look back in my email and find them, but it

753
00:39:51.039 --> 00:39:53.199
may be thousands of them to go through, but I

754
00:39:53.239 --> 00:39:55.440
definitely got them an emails. I remember emailed them to

755
00:39:55.480 --> 00:39:58.559
a few people. I go up there to get a

756
00:39:58.599 --> 00:40:00.320
cattle pan. I A'm goot to get a cattle panel

757
00:40:00.400 --> 00:40:01.840
laying on the side of the creek where I can catch

758
00:40:01.880 --> 00:40:03.360
it with my nobbies and go up to catch that

759
00:40:03.440 --> 00:40:05.639
logging road. And I was just going to wire this

760
00:40:05.719 --> 00:40:08.719
cattle panel into the side of the creek channel so

761
00:40:08.800 --> 00:40:10.440
I can get a run and get tracks in and

762
00:40:10.440 --> 00:40:12.599
get on the back there and because I'm not hauling

763
00:40:12.679 --> 00:40:15.000
corner back here on my back. I'm getting on that

764
00:40:15.079 --> 00:40:17.559
foe winter and I had a too well drive. I'm

765
00:40:17.599 --> 00:40:19.480
going up to the barn to get the cattle panel

766
00:40:19.840 --> 00:40:23.480
and owners up there at the barn. And then so

767
00:40:23.599 --> 00:40:26.840
I said, hey, buddy, I said, you got a digital

768
00:40:26.920 --> 00:40:29.320
camera and he said I do. I said, you got

769
00:40:29.360 --> 00:40:31.480
a bigfoot living on this dead gun place. Because I

770
00:40:31.480 --> 00:40:33.280
found some more tracks. I said, you remember them I

771
00:40:33.280 --> 00:40:35.119
found a couple of years ago. He said, yep. I

772
00:40:35.119 --> 00:40:37.320
said I found some more today. They're not as big,

773
00:40:37.360 --> 00:40:39.960
but they're back there. And he was like a kid

774
00:40:39.960 --> 00:40:41.960
in the candy start. I said, get you digital camera

775
00:40:41.960 --> 00:40:43.480
and meet me down there at the creek and we'll

776
00:40:43.519 --> 00:40:45.880
get some cameras that I want them on a SD

777
00:40:46.000 --> 00:40:48.400
card so we can't lose them. I don't want to

778
00:40:48.440 --> 00:40:51.400
lose them. And he gets his camera and I'm down

779
00:40:51.440 --> 00:40:53.800
there wire and this cattle panel up. He comes down

780
00:40:53.840 --> 00:40:56.239
there and says he's looking at me. Said, man, that's

781
00:40:56.280 --> 00:40:58.559
pretty good idea. Mark. I would have never thought that.

782
00:40:59.320 --> 00:41:01.400
I said, I'm a guy. We on this type of stuff.

783
00:41:01.400 --> 00:41:02.719
I can come up with things. He said, yeah, I

784
00:41:02.760 --> 00:41:05.400
would have never thought that. You put that cattle panel

785
00:41:05.400 --> 00:41:07.960
down on that soft sand, and you just run over

786
00:41:08.000 --> 00:41:10.840
it and go back there. We're sitting there talking, he's

787
00:41:10.840 --> 00:41:15.199
on the players, and all of a sudden he goes again,

788
00:41:16.239 --> 00:41:18.679
and I'll tell you this, old man's eyes got's bigg around.

789
00:41:18.719 --> 00:41:21.079
It's soft. He lived in me, he said, Mark, I'm

790
00:41:21.119 --> 00:41:23.719
seventy three years old. I ain't never heard nothing like that.

791
00:41:24.400 --> 00:41:26.480
I started loud, and I said, it's already done that

792
00:41:26.559 --> 00:41:30.519
to me like five times or six times. He said,

793
00:41:30.920 --> 00:41:32.800
I don't have a clue. I said, I knew it

794
00:41:32.840 --> 00:41:34.400
wasn't none of your cows, because you want a cowl over.

795
00:41:34.440 --> 00:41:36.639
He's absolutely not. I wouldn't put my cowls over, but

796
00:41:36.800 --> 00:41:38.800
never find them, he said. But I ain't never heard

797
00:41:38.840 --> 00:41:41.079
nothing like that. So we're sitting there talking again and

798
00:41:41.119 --> 00:41:43.599
we try to get quiet, and we start here. Makes

799
00:41:43.639 --> 00:41:45.639
some I don't know, it made a couple of weird

800
00:41:45.719 --> 00:41:48.119
little bee noise. It's not like a mouse, like a

801
00:41:48.800 --> 00:41:51.159
like he was popping his lip to be like like that,

802
00:41:52.320 --> 00:41:55.440
and I was like, he goes, that's weird. So anyway,

803
00:41:55.920 --> 00:41:58.280
he asked about three or four more times, and then

804
00:41:58.280 --> 00:41:59.719
it just got quiet, but we could hear it up

805
00:41:59.719 --> 00:42:02.199
there moving around when we would move or whatever we

806
00:42:02.239 --> 00:42:04.719
can hear. He gets the pictures, said, I can't wait

807
00:42:04.719 --> 00:42:06.960
to see them to the game boarding because that's just crazy.

808
00:42:07.039 --> 00:42:09.000
So he takes all these pictures and he got them

809
00:42:09.000 --> 00:42:11.119
on his camera and I get on back there and

810
00:42:11.159 --> 00:42:13.199
fill my feet up. I've never seen nothing when I

811
00:42:13.199 --> 00:42:14.639
get on top of that hill, and never did or

812
00:42:14.679 --> 00:42:17.000
anything like that. When I was getting back there to hunt.

813
00:42:17.000 --> 00:42:20.199
When we came to hunt during the fall, I was

814
00:42:20.239 --> 00:42:23.280
going with that logging road and when I shold my

815
00:42:23.320 --> 00:42:26.800
best friend that that track a few years before with

816
00:42:26.920 --> 00:42:29.760
a rock, I moved those rocks the rock to the side.

817
00:42:30.159 --> 00:42:31.920
When I came back up this time, there was two

818
00:42:32.039 --> 00:42:34.400
rocks in the middle of the road, and I'm thinking

819
00:42:35.239 --> 00:42:37.760
I didn't put them there. I'll remove them from last time.

820
00:42:38.239 --> 00:42:40.639
Those rocks had been there in years and there was

821
00:42:40.679 --> 00:42:43.639
only one, but there this time there was. I'm starting

822
00:42:43.639 --> 00:42:46.000
to go back there to hunt, and I checked my

823
00:42:46.000 --> 00:42:48.440
finger before we started out, actually is what it was.

824
00:42:48.920 --> 00:42:51.639
And there's a tree laying across the road. I'm thinking,

825
00:42:52.119 --> 00:42:54.320
that's weird. I jump the gun here. I gotta go

826
00:42:54.320 --> 00:42:57.119
back to the game mording story real quick. But going

827
00:42:57.239 --> 00:42:59.960
back up, I want going back to the tree. He goes,

828
00:43:00.119 --> 00:43:02.599
this was a game warden. Two weeks later game ward

829
00:43:02.679 --> 00:43:05.239
drug and they were bear tracks when they're not bear tracks,

830
00:43:05.400 --> 00:43:06.960
but they were too long to be a bear tracking

831
00:43:07.000 --> 00:43:09.880
bear don't have a three and a half flips dride anyway,

832
00:43:09.880 --> 00:43:11.920
And he said they got behind his house. He heard

833
00:43:11.960 --> 00:43:13.840
some noises behind the house for a bout a week

834
00:43:13.880 --> 00:43:17.920
and they disappeared. That was all before we got to

835
00:43:17.920 --> 00:43:20.159
go up there and hunt before the tree and the rocks.

836
00:43:20.599 --> 00:43:22.679
We go back up there and I'm going across inur

837
00:43:22.800 --> 00:43:25.519
this tree. It's uprooted, it's got a roof ball on

838
00:43:25.519 --> 00:43:28.679
the end of it. It's run across my trail the

839
00:43:28.760 --> 00:43:33.280
logging road. Speaking around as a football fifteen eighteen pele long.

840
00:43:33.760 --> 00:43:36.000
It's not something you're gonna pick up real easy and move.

841
00:43:36.639 --> 00:43:38.559
I was able to grab one in and just move

842
00:43:38.559 --> 00:43:41.159
it around off the road and going in there with

843
00:43:41.199 --> 00:43:43.559
my fourhead or I could have probably just jumped over it,

844
00:43:43.559 --> 00:43:44.679
but I thought, well, I don't want to do that

845
00:43:44.679 --> 00:43:46.480
and take too much time. I'll just go ahead and

846
00:43:46.480 --> 00:43:48.880
move it out way. So I got off moved that way.

847
00:43:48.760 --> 00:43:51.519
They go back there and I hunt. About two days later,

848
00:43:52.400 --> 00:43:55.079
I'm going back in there, and the two rocks were

849
00:43:55.119 --> 00:43:57.480
back in the road, and the tree was across the road. Again.

850
00:43:57.639 --> 00:44:01.000
I'm thinking, okay, somebody jacking with me. This is crazy,

851
00:44:01.800 --> 00:44:05.679
this isn't I still never found where that rootball come from.

852
00:44:05.800 --> 00:44:07.320
I looked all up and down the side of the road,

853
00:44:07.920 --> 00:44:09.920
and here's a tree that's got a pretty good rootball

854
00:44:10.039 --> 00:44:14.079
on it, Bigger than a trash can, bigger than if

855
00:44:14.000 --> 00:44:16.920
I got a buck, That's what I'm saying. And I

856
00:44:16.920 --> 00:44:19.599
can't see any ruards been uprooted. It was put there

857
00:44:19.639 --> 00:44:21.679
in that road. There's nowhere up down that road I

858
00:44:21.679 --> 00:44:23.920
could see where that thing was jerked out at. I

859
00:44:24.079 --> 00:44:26.880
moved them again, went enter in another day or two,

860
00:44:27.360 --> 00:44:30.360
ever seeing nothing, every saying nothing else, never heard that.

861
00:44:30.519 --> 00:44:33.280
We came back the next year, and about one hundred

862
00:44:33.320 --> 00:44:36.639
dollars before my deer stand, a bigger tree was laid

863
00:44:36.639 --> 00:44:39.159
across the road. And this one was big enough you

864
00:44:39.320 --> 00:44:41.280
wasn't gonna move unless you had a tracker, so it

865
00:44:41.320 --> 00:44:43.159
could have been a dead follow. But I never could

866
00:44:43.199 --> 00:44:46.280
find where it fell. It was like a tree top

867
00:44:46.320 --> 00:44:48.239
and fell out, and then something was just.

868
00:44:48.199 --> 00:44:51.039
Put in there big so society would be right back.

869
00:44:51.119 --> 00:44:52.679
After these messages.

870
00:45:08.159 --> 00:45:10.760
I never see the root ball, was it or anything

871
00:45:10.800 --> 00:45:13.760
like that. I could see where it fell out, and

872
00:45:13.840 --> 00:45:16.719
so that was basically then never see anything else other

873
00:45:16.719 --> 00:45:19.280
than that. But I've kept my eyes opening. And of

874
00:45:19.280 --> 00:45:21.079
course we don't hunt there no more. The old man's

875
00:45:21.119 --> 00:45:22.639
moved on and all that kind of stuff, so we

876
00:45:22.960 --> 00:45:25.719
don't unt there anymore. But he did say his neighbor

877
00:45:25.800 --> 00:45:28.360
had brought on a crail cam or a game cam,

878
00:45:28.440 --> 00:45:30.000
but I never didn't get a chance to go see

879
00:45:30.000 --> 00:45:34.719
that either. But that's my almost start.

880
00:45:35.239 --> 00:45:38.360
It's a wild one, especially that noise that you guys heard.

881
00:45:38.480 --> 00:45:43.679
Are you able to share any more specifics about the

882
00:45:43.880 --> 00:45:47.079
area that was? I know you mentioned it was like

883
00:45:47.239 --> 00:45:49.079
south of Tulsa, right.

884
00:45:49.800 --> 00:45:53.840
Yeah, Bristol we hunted is out of Bristol and between

885
00:45:53.880 --> 00:45:58.840
Bristol and there's a national force there. I forget what

886
00:45:58.880 --> 00:46:02.280
to call it, Wilmall management areas. Huh, we were hunting,

887
00:46:02.599 --> 00:46:06.000
not there's a lot of management area probably about five

888
00:46:06.119 --> 00:46:10.800
miles from actually probably probably three miles from us, and

889
00:46:11.039 --> 00:46:13.639
we were back down and there between Bristol and that

890
00:46:13.719 --> 00:46:16.639
wildlife management area, which is I think there's two or

891
00:46:16.679 --> 00:46:19.119
three big creeks in there at that time. I don't

892
00:46:19.159 --> 00:46:21.880
know what the names of them are, but those creeks

893
00:46:21.920 --> 00:46:25.159
they travel all up through there in all but yeah,

894
00:46:25.360 --> 00:46:30.199
Bristol or vr Stows. I don't know how they pronounce

895
00:46:30.199 --> 00:46:30.639
it up there.

896
00:46:31.360 --> 00:46:34.800
Very interesting. I'm sure there'll be some listeners that hear this,

897
00:46:35.000 --> 00:46:38.719
and man, they might even know that that same area.

898
00:46:38.760 --> 00:46:42.360
It'll be interesting to hear if anyone reaches.

899
00:46:42.039 --> 00:46:44.760
Out they say something in that area. Great, Yeah, what

900
00:46:44.960 --> 00:46:47.320
you've seen it. You just can't see that. It's not

901
00:46:47.400 --> 00:46:50.760
like imaginary I got imaginary friend over here. It's not

902
00:46:50.880 --> 00:46:53.559
like that. I sure changed my attitude a lot. When

903
00:46:53.559 --> 00:46:56.960
I'm in the woods. I am old guard, like nobody's business.

904
00:46:57.320 --> 00:47:01.119
Going back to your property down into do you think

905
00:47:01.159 --> 00:47:05.880
that there's two different types of bigfoot down there? You

906
00:47:06.599 --> 00:47:09.239
mentioned you have the picture of the gorilla, then you

907
00:47:09.360 --> 00:47:10.400
have the cousin it.

908
00:47:11.159 --> 00:47:13.239
I think the gorilla the cousin are the same, but

909
00:47:13.760 --> 00:47:16.440
I think the same one. Okay, Yeah, because they're they're

910
00:47:16.480 --> 00:47:20.159
they're all in a they're all in this corner. It

911
00:47:20.199 --> 00:47:23.400
is the thickest corner on my property. It is the

912
00:47:23.480 --> 00:47:27.440
thickest cover on my property. So it makes total sense.

913
00:47:27.679 --> 00:47:29.639
If you're gonna hide, you're gonna hide where it's thickest,

914
00:47:30.199 --> 00:47:33.480
and it's stay in that little area where it can

915
00:47:33.519 --> 00:47:35.199
be one to take it. I can see it moving.

916
00:47:35.280 --> 00:47:39.159
The guy behind these on a wildlife bag exit. They

917
00:47:39.280 --> 00:47:43.880
only bowl hunt and they're just very very seldom. Nobody

918
00:47:43.880 --> 00:47:46.760
owns the twelve acres. The people. There's twelve acres to

919
00:47:46.800 --> 00:47:50.000
the north of me that's pretty thick. Never see anybody

920
00:47:50.039 --> 00:47:53.519
over there ever, And that's where I think it's if

921
00:47:53.519 --> 00:47:57.000
it has a home or where it's hanging out. I

922
00:47:57.039 --> 00:48:00.519
think that's where it's hanging because that's the thick place

923
00:48:00.599 --> 00:48:03.119
and there's something to think about it. And I thought about

924
00:48:03.159 --> 00:48:06.960
this after far people say they stayed them eight nine ten,

925
00:48:07.039 --> 00:48:09.320
twelve feet tall. Twelve would be just that's what the

926
00:48:10.320 --> 00:48:13.639
gigantical pitts. That's what I think some of these might

927
00:48:13.679 --> 00:48:15.679
going to be. You gotta think about this. If you're

928
00:48:15.679 --> 00:48:17.920
gonna do the woods, and the woods are thick, and

929
00:48:17.960 --> 00:48:22.519
it's just standing there and all you're gonna feaze two legs,

930
00:48:22.519 --> 00:48:25.800
and if the cover's got everything else broken up, if

931
00:48:25.840 --> 00:48:29.800
it's fairly tall, so if you're not looking mid rains,

932
00:48:29.840 --> 00:48:32.360
you could probably miss it completely because you're just singing.

933
00:48:32.400 --> 00:48:35.920
The legs were trees. That's in my opinion. If it

934
00:48:35.960 --> 00:48:37.679
was very tall, if it was eight nine, ten feet

935
00:48:37.679 --> 00:48:39.719
tall or whatever, I would think you that some of

936
00:48:39.760 --> 00:48:42.360
the brush that I'm looking at, the underbrush comes up

937
00:48:42.400 --> 00:48:45.159
so far you can see trees so far that middle

938
00:48:45.199 --> 00:48:49.360
torso area would just be camouflaged by trees. You wouldn't

939
00:48:49.360 --> 00:48:52.119
be looking at it as it's something solid. You just

940
00:48:52.159 --> 00:48:53.880
see two legs a little like two trees.

941
00:48:55.639 --> 00:48:58.519
It would be the weirdest thing in the world.

942
00:48:58.800 --> 00:49:00.599
I can't imagine. How would even it through there?

943
00:49:01.199 --> 00:49:02.360
Yeah, I didn't.

944
00:49:02.079 --> 00:49:04.039
Imagine, but I want to. I want to back that

945
00:49:04.159 --> 00:49:08.039
up with something. I had watched. Elk that have horns

946
00:49:08.079 --> 00:49:10.239
as right as the hood of my truck runs through

947
00:49:10.239 --> 00:49:12.480
the forest and not hit them hardly a branch or

948
00:49:12.559 --> 00:49:15.880
not take their head plum off. And I'm thinking, hell,

949
00:49:16.039 --> 00:49:19.960
that possible. I've seen elk with massive racks go through

950
00:49:19.960 --> 00:49:23.079
some of the tightest cover. They lean their head back

951
00:49:23.119 --> 00:49:25.239
and run right through there one hundred mile and ire

952
00:49:25.280 --> 00:49:27.400
to get away from you. And you would think that

953
00:49:27.400 --> 00:49:29.639
that their horse would catch a limb and jerk their

954
00:49:29.679 --> 00:49:32.800
head flow back or do a back with you right

955
00:49:32.840 --> 00:49:35.760
through there. It's amazing what thing do. But here I

956
00:49:35.760 --> 00:49:38.239
want to give you something else. So people ask me,

957
00:49:38.320 --> 00:49:41.880
what do you believe almost had to now? I said,

958
00:49:42.039 --> 00:49:46.159
did I care before? I always suckers. I'm always optimistic. Right,

959
00:49:46.679 --> 00:49:49.400
The white deer exists, but if you go try to

960
00:49:49.440 --> 00:49:51.519
buying one, you'll spend a lot of money trying to

961
00:49:51.519 --> 00:49:53.960
buy one and probably not ever buy one. And as

962
00:49:53.960 --> 00:49:55.800
somebody says, you, hey, I got one of my backyard

963
00:49:55.880 --> 00:50:01.199
eating chees or whatever. So I look at it like that,

964
00:50:01.639 --> 00:50:04.199
Why there exists? But how many do you see? You know?

965
00:50:05.039 --> 00:50:08.679
Or it's pretty rare. I think there's more than people

966
00:50:08.800 --> 00:50:12.360
think there is. I definitely think there's just you know,

967
00:50:12.400 --> 00:50:14.760
there's too many people, a million signings a year by

968
00:50:14.840 --> 00:50:17.880
whatever it is there, I don't know. They all can't

969
00:50:17.880 --> 00:50:18.960
be hoaxers and liars.

970
00:50:19.400 --> 00:50:24.199
You can't have you thought to yourself, what is it

971
00:50:24.880 --> 00:50:26.519
that it actually is?

972
00:50:28.000 --> 00:50:31.119
It has to be it's got to be a cross.

973
00:50:31.199 --> 00:50:33.360
That's the only thing I can figure. It's got too

974
00:50:33.440 --> 00:50:37.519
much intelligence man to be. I won't say that one

975
00:50:37.559 --> 00:50:40.079
hadn't been killed, because I think some probably were killed

976
00:50:40.119 --> 00:50:43.679
in the eighteen nineteen hundreds. If you look into Teddy Roosevelt,

977
00:50:43.719 --> 00:50:46.320
I think it was Teddy Rose wrote a book about

978
00:50:46.360 --> 00:50:49.960
one killing one and they were running trap line and

979
00:50:50.079 --> 00:50:52.159
one of his best friends got killed running tracks by

980
00:50:52.159 --> 00:50:54.280
one and suppose we shot at it or killed it

981
00:50:54.400 --> 00:50:56.440
or whatever. I can't remember the name of the book

982
00:50:56.480 --> 00:50:59.360
with Teddy Roosevelt, but I don't even remember what year

983
00:50:59.400 --> 00:51:04.360
it was. I'm odors than that. But so it's like this,

984
00:51:04.840 --> 00:51:08.920
it's got to be. It's got to have the Neanderthal

985
00:51:10.400 --> 00:51:14.440
survival deal. And maybe it's an an ap or it.

986
00:51:14.519 --> 00:51:17.159
We'll go back to this thing called gigantic epithecus. It's

987
00:51:17.400 --> 00:51:19.400
something that wasn't supposed to make it through the ice

988
00:51:19.440 --> 00:51:23.719
age that did. There's a lot of things guard gold Fin,

989
00:51:24.519 --> 00:51:27.559
several piecies space made it through the ice age. Why

990
00:51:27.559 --> 00:51:30.800
couldn't on mapple that has intelligences the place maybe to

991
00:51:30.800 --> 00:51:34.679
get warm, stay warm or figure it out or whatever. Something.

992
00:51:35.199 --> 00:51:37.440
It's gotta be a cross of something. It just hasen.

993
00:51:37.599 --> 00:51:40.199
When I see what I seen, and it has a

994
00:51:40.280 --> 00:51:43.199
human foot track for the most part, other than one

995
00:51:43.239 --> 00:51:46.199
has the long fingers. That was real scratching my head.

996
00:51:46.239 --> 00:51:48.840
But I will say this, I did find a track online.

997
00:51:48.880 --> 00:51:51.320
It looked just like what I found in the second

998
00:51:51.320 --> 00:51:54.199
time at Bristol. I did find one just like it online.

999
00:51:55.079 --> 00:51:58.320
So it's evidently it's something that happens from from time

1000
00:51:58.400 --> 00:52:03.360
to time, or just maybe it steps or whatever. But man,

1001
00:52:03.400 --> 00:52:05.559
there's just so much in this world we don't know about.

1002
00:52:07.960 --> 00:52:12.280
But it had intelligence, because how can you survive and

1003
00:52:12.360 --> 00:52:17.480
not be detected on a daily basis as is? But

1004
00:52:17.679 --> 00:52:19.800
here's the other thing. And I said this to some

1005
00:52:19.840 --> 00:52:22.199
of my friends. They said, man, you are to go

1006
00:52:22.239 --> 00:52:25.559
out and do some night searching. Look, I've seen some

1007
00:52:25.639 --> 00:52:28.519
of these TV shows and I'm not going to I

1008
00:52:28.519 --> 00:52:31.519
don't want to use the word idiot, but I want

1009
00:52:31.519 --> 00:52:34.000
to put it in a paraphrase so you understand it

1010
00:52:34.000 --> 00:52:38.159
the more if you go hunting something bright in the

1011
00:52:38.239 --> 00:52:41.039
darken night, even if you buy it, you're still a zero.

1012
00:52:41.519 --> 00:52:44.639
Does that make sense? I don't understand it. These things

1013
00:52:44.679 --> 00:52:46.519
are seeing in the daytime as much as they're seen

1014
00:52:46.559 --> 00:52:50.119
at night. Why would you not try to prove the

1015
00:52:50.719 --> 00:52:54.239
species in a daytime? Because if you find him at

1016
00:52:54.320 --> 00:52:57.280
night on the thermal, there's still skepticism that's gonna show up.

1017
00:52:57.840 --> 00:53:00.519
They we're gonna go there can be a human because

1018
00:53:00.519 --> 00:53:02.559
you ain't got what have you got? In the daytime?

1019
00:53:02.880 --> 00:53:04.800
It's a little bit more convincing because you get a

1020
00:53:04.800 --> 00:53:07.920
better picture. So I don't like to use the word idiot,

1021
00:53:07.960 --> 00:53:10.199
so I want to retract that. But I'm just saying

1022
00:53:10.280 --> 00:53:12.840
that I'm not going to go looking for something black

1023
00:53:12.880 --> 00:53:15.800
in the black of the night. I don't care if

1024
00:53:15.800 --> 00:53:18.360
you called up or whatever, because I call coyotes up

1025
00:53:18.360 --> 00:53:20.360
at night, and I call coyotes up in the daytime,

1026
00:53:21.039 --> 00:53:23.480
and if it's a predator, it's looking for a meal.

1027
00:53:23.519 --> 00:53:25.239
I don't care what time to dated. I get ugly

1028
00:53:25.280 --> 00:53:27.119
at eighty quick in the morning. I get ugly at me.

1029
00:53:27.840 --> 00:53:29.159
I won't get up and go fee.

1030
00:53:29.559 --> 00:53:34.840
Oh absolutely, Mark, it has been a really fun chat

1031
00:53:34.880 --> 00:53:37.920
with you, and I would love it if you could.

1032
00:53:38.199 --> 00:53:42.039
If there's other stuff that happens on your property, definitely

1033
00:53:42.519 --> 00:53:44.639
keep me up to date and send me an email.

1034
00:53:45.360 --> 00:53:48.400
Man. Like I said, I don't want to kill it.

1035
00:53:48.760 --> 00:53:54.079
I will a good solid picture then I and right

1036
00:53:54.119 --> 00:53:56.519
now I would tell if any was or whatever. I said, Hey,

1037
00:53:56.519 --> 00:53:58.519
I'll tell you a polygraph. I know what I've seen.

1038
00:53:59.079 --> 00:54:01.719
I can't take that. I ain't try to pull a

1039
00:54:01.719 --> 00:54:05.960
little buller on nobody's eyes or nothing. And I'm just

1040
00:54:06.039 --> 00:54:09.320
like hearing these texts. I'm shocked. I really am because

1041
00:54:09.920 --> 00:54:12.519
this is not supposed to happen where I'm at. My

1042
00:54:12.559 --> 00:54:15.840
brother Ley, he was like, boy, I don't know what

1043
00:54:15.880 --> 00:54:17.880
you got going on down there, but you got going something.

1044
00:54:17.880 --> 00:54:20.960
I want to mention one this. You hear the term

1045
00:54:21.079 --> 00:54:26.480
with the orbs and stuff with bigfoot. I had a

1046
00:54:26.559 --> 00:54:30.280
couple of deals on camera, like little orbs and people said,

1047
00:54:30.320 --> 00:54:34.199
that's dust particles going through the air. Yeah, we've seen

1048
00:54:34.239 --> 00:54:36.400
something that looked like as the We've seen something look

1049
00:54:36.519 --> 00:54:39.440
like a Christmas ornament and all this kind of stuff.

1050
00:54:39.440 --> 00:54:43.199
But one morning I'm down there, I'm hunting buying, and

1051
00:54:43.280 --> 00:54:45.440
I take my brother while he's hunting out here's hunting

1052
00:54:45.440 --> 00:54:48.719
and buying at another place. I said, you wouldn't believe

1053
00:54:48.760 --> 00:54:51.320
what I'm looking at. He said, was that I'm looking

1054
00:54:51.400 --> 00:54:53.960
up in a tree and it's like there's a spotlight

1055
00:54:54.000 --> 00:54:58.199
up or that tree. He really I said, yeah, and

1056
00:54:58.280 --> 00:55:01.239
the son's not even close to coming up, and I said,

1057
00:55:01.280 --> 00:55:04.679
it looks just like a little head laugh, a little

1058
00:55:05.159 --> 00:55:08.639
little light up there. And I watched this thing for

1059
00:55:09.360 --> 00:55:12.199
eight to thirty minutes, and I don't know if it

1060
00:55:12.239 --> 00:55:15.079
was a reflection of something or what it's up in

1061
00:55:15.079 --> 00:55:17.719
a tree light thirty five forty feet and then all

1062
00:55:17.760 --> 00:55:20.440
of a sudden, I looked back on where I'm looked away,

1063
00:55:21.199 --> 00:55:23.400
looked back, it's still there. I looked back and it's gone,

1064
00:55:23.679 --> 00:55:27.199
and I've never seen it again. I thought that is weird, wow,

1065
00:55:27.480 --> 00:55:29.280
because it was just it looked like a little light

1066
00:55:29.400 --> 00:55:31.000
up front the top of a tree. And I was like,

1067
00:55:31.519 --> 00:55:34.239
and he said, the weirdest stuff goes on down there.

1068
00:55:34.679 --> 00:55:37.719
I know, but that light. I don't believe in the

1069
00:55:37.840 --> 00:55:40.639
ORB stuff, but that was pretty weird. That. That was

1070
00:55:40.679 --> 00:55:44.079
pretty weird. You would have thought somebody was coon hunting

1071
00:55:44.079 --> 00:55:46.679
they had in one of them trees, because it just

1072
00:55:46.679 --> 00:55:49.280
set up for a little bit and I watched it,

1073
00:55:48.480 --> 00:55:51.519
and it may have been a reflection of sunlight coming

1074
00:55:51.519 --> 00:55:55.760
through something or whatever. But that's pretty weird. But that's

1075
00:55:55.800 --> 00:55:57.360
the only thing I've ever seen as far as a

1076
00:55:57.400 --> 00:56:00.880
light and on cameras and stuff. I don't believe in

1077
00:56:00.880 --> 00:56:03.599
that ORBS stuff, but that was freaky.

1078
00:56:04.119 --> 00:56:07.559
You definitely have some weird stuff going on down there, Mark,

1079
00:56:07.679 --> 00:56:08.079
for sure.

1080
00:56:08.840 --> 00:56:11.480
I'm beginning to think so, because, like I said, so

1081
00:56:11.559 --> 00:56:13.159
I get my you know, some of my buddies to

1082
00:56:13.280 --> 00:56:16.119
come out little hall hunting. Well, sometimes we have to

1083
00:56:16.159 --> 00:56:18.440
here something that the most time, we don't. It's just

1084
00:56:18.519 --> 00:56:21.880
difficult old hunting. And every now and then, well or

1085
00:56:21.920 --> 00:56:24.320
something it's a little different. But there's time because the

1086
00:56:24.360 --> 00:56:27.119
same old stuff. But it's like right now, I said, So,

1087
00:56:27.159 --> 00:56:30.320
the last time I seen it was probably probably in

1088
00:56:30.880 --> 00:56:33.679
let's see some where, probably August was the last time

1089
00:56:33.719 --> 00:56:35.679
that I seen it. I've seen the picture of the

1090
00:56:35.760 --> 00:56:37.519
date on it, so you'll be able to that'll be

1091
00:56:37.559 --> 00:56:40.159
my last picture. Uh as a day not saying it,

1092
00:56:40.840 --> 00:56:42.920
I said, no more size. I look in the mud

1093
00:56:43.159 --> 00:56:45.800
all the time, all the time I'm getting around my

1094
00:56:45.880 --> 00:56:49.079
pond perspective, I am looking. I'm looking at the creek,

1095
00:56:49.119 --> 00:56:54.280
cattles and stuff. I'm always looking for that little something different. Oh,

1096
00:56:54.360 --> 00:56:56.880
I know what I can't tell you. So my grandson

1097
00:56:56.960 --> 00:57:00.119
and I we were where I've seen this thing that

1098
00:57:00.239 --> 00:57:04.239
before I had explained to him where I seen it

1099
00:57:04.280 --> 00:57:07.079
or this, but about a month before that, before I

1100
00:57:07.199 --> 00:57:09.880
seen it. We were walking through there and there was

1101
00:57:09.920 --> 00:57:13.760
a peak skeleton and a tree about I don't know,

1102
00:57:14.000 --> 00:57:15.840
five foot tall, and it was in the fork of

1103
00:57:15.880 --> 00:57:19.440
a tree. Oh really, and my grand said said yeah.

1104
00:57:19.599 --> 00:57:23.000
My grand said, goes look here. I'm like, yeah, I

1105
00:57:23.000 --> 00:57:25.079
want you do that far. He said, I didn't do that.

1106
00:57:25.559 --> 00:57:27.880
I said, yeah, you did. He said no, I didn't.

1107
00:57:28.760 --> 00:57:31.880
I said, what whatever, And I just shook it off

1108
00:57:31.880 --> 00:57:34.159
like I didn't think nothing of it. Didn't think nothing

1109
00:57:34.159 --> 00:57:36.400
of it. Well, right when I seen that thing, walked

1110
00:57:36.440 --> 00:57:38.199
to the tree the other side of that little opening

1111
00:57:38.880 --> 00:57:42.159
that tree was in. That tree is about as big

1112
00:57:42.199 --> 00:57:46.239
around as a Copenhagen can about about that size of that.

1113
00:57:47.239 --> 00:57:50.880
Have you to do that, smart pet? Actually probably about

1114
00:57:50.880 --> 00:57:54.360
the size of a red bullcan be more more accurate. Anyway,

1115
00:57:54.920 --> 00:57:59.800
The tree is just being over pushed over, and the

1116
00:58:00.199 --> 00:58:02.679
all is about twenty five feet from where U was

1117
00:58:02.960 --> 00:58:05.280
in the tree. But I thought that was pretty weird.

1118
00:58:05.400 --> 00:58:07.519
Yeah, that's very weird because.

1119
00:58:07.599 --> 00:58:11.400
He swears he said, I did not put that there

1120
00:58:11.480 --> 00:58:13.079
paper mark. I said, yeah you did. He said no,

1121
00:58:13.199 --> 00:58:16.199
I did not. And I like, boy, don't be pulling

1122
00:58:16.199 --> 00:58:17.079
on my leg like that.

1123
00:58:17.719 --> 00:58:18.039
And I.

1124
00:58:19.840 --> 00:58:21.760
Didn't do it. He said it was there, That's why

1125
00:58:21.760 --> 00:58:24.239
I told you. And I was like, I didn't do it.

1126
00:58:24.639 --> 00:58:27.440
And it's just a little from one of the pigs

1127
00:58:27.440 --> 00:58:32.199
we'd shot when it was shoved in the fork of

1128
00:58:32.280 --> 00:58:36.119
that limb and it was jammed in there or whatever.

1129
00:58:36.199 --> 00:58:38.880
And I just I never even judge. I just looked together. Yeah,

1130
00:58:38.880 --> 00:58:42.039
you're just jerking my chain. But now that makes sense

1131
00:58:42.119 --> 00:58:45.280
because it's not forty feet from work, walked by that tree.

1132
00:58:45.679 --> 00:58:49.000
Everything's happening in that corner. Everything's happening in that corner.

1133
00:58:49.400 --> 00:58:52.440
I would you really aware when you're gone back there?

1134
00:58:52.519 --> 00:58:53.000
For sure?

1135
00:58:53.280 --> 00:58:54.960
Mark, I'll tell you, I don't want to get in

1136
00:58:55.039 --> 00:58:57.639
my boat stand without my pistol. I've got my pistol

1137
00:58:57.679 --> 00:58:59.719
on it all the time now. But again I don't

1138
00:58:59.719 --> 00:59:04.320
want to. I just want self protection as I don't

1139
00:59:04.320 --> 00:59:07.000
know what I'm doing with something. Will someday I will

1140
00:59:07.039 --> 00:59:08.639
say one more thing. I know you probably ready to

1141
00:59:08.639 --> 00:59:12.400
get off here. Somebody said, what about homeless people. I'm like, yeah,

1142
00:59:12.400 --> 00:59:15.000
that's possibility. You remember when back in the old days

1143
00:59:15.519 --> 00:59:19.280
mountain men got in the mountains and you've never seen again. Sure, okay,

1144
00:59:20.280 --> 00:59:24.039
Indian tribes and I can't remember which ones. I'm trying

1145
00:59:24.039 --> 00:59:26.599
to think it might have been either the sewer or

1146
00:59:26.599 --> 00:59:34.199
the crow if you dishonored the tribe, or we're caught

1147
00:59:34.320 --> 00:59:39.280
doing something with a squaw or and somebody will probably

1148
00:59:39.760 --> 00:59:42.440
lavigate on this a little bit more, but they would

1149
00:59:42.559 --> 00:59:45.920
kick you out of the tribe and tell you to

1150
00:59:45.960 --> 00:59:48.920
go to the mountains and never be seen again. And

1151
00:59:48.960 --> 00:59:52.480
so I've often wondered if this could be some past

1152
00:59:53.000 --> 00:59:57.880
episodes of that, because I'm pretty sure it's more than

1153
00:59:57.920 --> 01:00:01.519
one tribe, but it's either there, the Sue, the Crow

1154
01:00:02.599 --> 01:00:06.000
I can't remember, but one of them, maybe all of them,

1155
01:00:06.039 --> 01:00:09.039
I don't remember. I can't remember Rich Eric here, Comanche,

1156
01:00:09.960 --> 01:00:14.719
but whatever, there may be something just in the Native

1157
01:00:14.719 --> 01:00:18.599
American meal. Somebody may, like I said, chime in on

1158
01:00:18.679 --> 01:00:21.079
that at one point and see. But I do know

1159
01:00:21.280 --> 01:00:24.800
that I've heard that years and years ago that if

1160
01:00:24.840 --> 01:00:27.639
they did something dishonored the tribe, they were kicked out,

1161
01:00:28.480 --> 01:00:30.360
and sometimes they would give them a squaw and they

1162
01:00:30.400 --> 01:00:32.960
would send them out and say, don't come back. You're

1163
01:00:33.000 --> 01:00:36.599
no more part of this tribe. You're done, and they

1164
01:00:36.639 --> 01:00:38.679
go into the mountains of wilderness and never to be

1165
01:00:38.719 --> 01:00:39.239
seen again.

1166
01:00:40.480 --> 01:00:43.239
Big for society will be right back after these messages.

1167
01:00:59.320 --> 01:01:02.519
What if they got there started a breeding population. It's

1168
01:01:02.559 --> 01:01:05.679
like the a I can't even pronounce at the bernade

1169
01:01:05.760 --> 01:01:10.519
Lee or order in Australia or whatever, the travel people

1170
01:01:10.559 --> 01:01:12.800
that they keep in fact that where they found one

1171
01:01:12.880 --> 01:01:16.360
just the other day another tribe that never even ever

1172
01:01:16.440 --> 01:01:16.960
been found.

1173
01:01:17.480 --> 01:01:20.280
Well, it is very interesting how in certain parts of

1174
01:01:20.280 --> 01:01:24.760
the world there are still tribes that don't have contact

1175
01:01:25.119 --> 01:01:27.119
really with the outside.

1176
01:01:27.360 --> 01:01:30.360
Let's saying we know everything, and again it goes right

1177
01:01:30.400 --> 01:01:32.679
back to that circle. We keep meeting that dead horse.

1178
01:01:33.239 --> 01:01:36.079
We don't know everything. We're not ever going to know everything.

1179
01:01:37.480 --> 01:01:40.480
We just got to take each grain and are each

1180
01:01:40.559 --> 01:01:43.639
piece of the puzzle and put it together and one

1181
01:01:43.719 --> 01:01:46.159
day it's gonna come up there. But you know what,

1182
01:01:46.519 --> 01:01:50.280
with proven let's just say Bigfoot in its existence at all,

1183
01:01:51.039 --> 01:01:54.360
there's lots of examples of blood and hair. Just Mildren's

1184
01:01:54.400 --> 01:01:58.360
got a man. He told me some stories that were

1185
01:01:58.480 --> 01:02:01.880
just awesome and some of the tracks he's casted and

1186
01:02:01.920 --> 01:02:04.480
stuff like that. And I got to visit with him

1187
01:02:04.480 --> 01:02:09.079
at one of the Bigfoot conventions or conferences, and I

1188
01:02:09.199 --> 01:02:12.440
ended up buying one of the casts from Paddy out

1189
01:02:12.480 --> 01:02:17.199
of California. And I can say now that I own that.

1190
01:02:18.480 --> 01:02:20.960
Compared to the ones that when I found in Oklahoma,

1191
01:02:21.239 --> 01:02:25.280
they're not near as big as Patty's. Close. Yeah, they're good,

1192
01:02:25.679 --> 01:02:28.400
but Patty's like eighteen inches. It's a big old track.

1193
01:02:28.519 --> 01:02:31.599
It's sending think eighteen inches the ones not wronger went

1194
01:02:31.639 --> 01:02:36.079
out that big but real similar. That's about all I got.

1195
01:02:36.239 --> 01:02:37.920
I was keep an eye on on it, and Buddy,

1196
01:02:37.920 --> 01:02:39.559
I'll tell you if I get it, I'll get hold

1197
01:02:39.599 --> 01:02:43.079
of you. And I said, we get through here, I

1198
01:02:43.119 --> 01:02:44.960
want to see these pictures, and I wanted to know

1199
01:02:45.519 --> 01:02:48.000
when I send you these pictures, I want you to

1200
01:02:48.039 --> 01:02:51.159
text me right back and tell me what your thoughts are.

1201
01:02:51.280 --> 01:02:54.559
You tell me because I'm always open to If you

1202
01:02:54.679 --> 01:02:57.280
think that's a it's not a buzzard. I'm not going

1203
01:02:57.320 --> 01:02:59.840
to go for that because it's too shining. There's no,

1204
01:03:00.719 --> 01:03:04.679
it's not a buzzard. But he said that does it

1205
01:03:04.719 --> 01:03:06.760
like a gorilla? Or that does look like a Harry

1206
01:03:06.800 --> 01:03:11.639
homeless person or whatever. I'll take him thinking at least

1207
01:03:11.639 --> 01:03:15.760
put it into play for sure. All right, man, I

1208
01:03:16.000 --> 01:03:20.199
joining out doing it. Everybody got to hear this, And no,

1209
01:03:20.239 --> 01:03:22.760
I'm just telling it just like it is, and it

1210
01:03:22.840 --> 01:03:24.599
is what it is. And you can't under see what

1211
01:03:24.599 --> 01:03:28.440
you're saying. And maybe there's a reason why I'm supposed

1212
01:03:28.440 --> 01:03:29.880
to say good Lord knows, I don't.

1213
01:03:30.440 --> 01:03:33.199
There you go. Mark, has been a pleasure chatting with you,

1214
01:03:33.360 --> 01:03:35.480
and I hope to be chatting with you again in

1215
01:03:35.519 --> 01:03:38.480
the future. All right, big fast idea. The privilege of

1216
01:03:38.599 --> 01:03:43.559
talking to Dan from down in Missouri about some things

1217
01:03:43.639 --> 01:03:48.400
he's experienced regarding Bigfoot. How's it going tonight, Dan, It's

1218
01:03:48.400 --> 01:03:49.239
doing really good.

1219
01:03:49.760 --> 01:03:52.280
Finally got a little bit of rain. It's been pretty dry,

1220
01:03:52.400 --> 01:03:56.320
but ere season has been rolling along and a lot

1221
01:03:56.320 --> 01:04:00.760
of people have been out in the woods and probably

1222
01:04:00.800 --> 01:04:04.239
experiencing a few weird things, because this time of year

1223
01:04:04.639 --> 01:04:10.239
is when we hear or experience more strange things as

1224
01:04:10.280 --> 01:04:15.599
far as Bigfoot. Some people claim that they migrate through

1225
01:04:15.599 --> 01:04:17.960
this part of the country anywhere from the end of

1226
01:04:18.000 --> 01:04:22.039
October through the end of December, first part of January,

1227
01:04:22.239 --> 01:04:24.760
so that's when we've had most of our incidences.

1228
01:04:24.920 --> 01:04:28.519
I know there are a lot of really interesting areas

1229
01:04:28.559 --> 01:04:33.039
in Missouri that have to do with Bigfoot. Are you

1230
01:04:33.119 --> 01:04:36.840
able to give maybe a general location or if we

1231
01:04:36.880 --> 01:04:39.639
need to just leave it at Missouri, that is fine too.

1232
01:04:40.480 --> 01:04:45.639
No, we live in Reynolds County, Missouri, which is about

1233
01:04:45.679 --> 01:04:50.880
one hundred and twenty miles south southwest of Saint Louis,

1234
01:04:51.599 --> 01:04:56.800
down in the Theozarks, Johnson Sheddon State Park, Elephant Rocks,

1235
01:04:56.800 --> 01:05:00.199
different things like that. But we're an extremely rural.

1236
01:05:00.119 --> 01:05:02.280
Area you most certainly are.

1237
01:05:02.480 --> 01:05:05.920
The thing that started it with me was my grandson

1238
01:05:06.039 --> 01:05:11.199
graduated from high school twenty sixteen, and prior to that,

1239
01:05:11.360 --> 01:05:15.199
probably about a year before that, my daughter and grandson

1240
01:05:15.280 --> 01:05:20.639
lived on the family farm and there's roughly two hundred

1241
01:05:20.679 --> 01:05:24.280
acres and anyway, they live on the backside of the farm.

1242
01:05:25.199 --> 01:05:28.239
And I was over one morning. It was late October,

1243
01:05:28.760 --> 01:05:34.920
beautiful day in the morning, and across the ridge from them,

1244
01:05:35.119 --> 01:05:39.320
it would be east from them, we heard a blood

1245
01:05:39.480 --> 01:05:44.679
curdling scream and there was a group of coyotes up

1246
01:05:44.760 --> 01:05:48.559
on a hill and they started yelling and yipping, and

1247
01:05:48.599 --> 01:05:52.239
they ran south and continued to yell until they were

1248
01:05:52.400 --> 01:05:56.239
completely out of sight. I've heard a lot of strange

1249
01:05:56.280 --> 01:06:02.800
animal noises, bobcats, coyotes, the foxes. I've never heard anything

1250
01:06:02.920 --> 01:06:05.480
like that. And we kind of looked at each other.

1251
01:06:05.800 --> 01:06:08.920
What in the world was that? You question what it

1252
01:06:09.079 --> 01:06:12.559
was and what it could be, and it kind of

1253
01:06:12.599 --> 01:06:16.559
got the ball rolling. And then after that, my grandson

1254
01:06:16.960 --> 01:06:18.880
went to school up in Maine for a while. He

1255
01:06:18.960 --> 01:06:22.679
came home for Christmas break. He came home early Thanksgiving

1256
01:06:22.760 --> 01:06:27.360
and we have faro hogs here. Terrible animal. But anyway,

1257
01:06:27.880 --> 01:06:29.599
we were going to see if we could hunt a

1258
01:06:29.639 --> 01:06:33.360
couple of them, and we were following a path behind

1259
01:06:33.400 --> 01:06:36.280
the farm. And to give you an idea, from my

1260
01:06:36.440 --> 01:06:40.159
daughter's house to the nearest town, it's twenty miles. There's

1261
01:06:40.199 --> 01:06:44.360
nothing but forest in between there. It's extremely dense forest.

1262
01:06:45.400 --> 01:06:49.960
And we're walking along a game trail which was probably

1263
01:06:50.880 --> 01:06:54.400
i would say sixty yards down from the peak of

1264
01:06:54.440 --> 01:06:57.840
the hill. And as we're walking he's in front of me.

1265
01:06:58.599 --> 01:07:05.000
A rock, probably just a little bit between a softball

1266
01:07:05.719 --> 01:07:09.039
and a volleyball, came over the top of the hill,

1267
01:07:10.000 --> 01:07:13.039
went right between us and hit the ground. And I

1268
01:07:13.119 --> 01:07:16.079
looked up and you could see branches and twigs and

1269
01:07:16.079 --> 01:07:18.079
stuff falling off the trees where it came through.

1270
01:07:18.079 --> 01:07:18.239
There.

1271
01:07:18.320 --> 01:07:22.119
My grandson turned around, goes, where did that come from?

1272
01:07:22.800 --> 01:07:25.719
I said, I don't know, man, it looked like it

1273
01:07:25.760 --> 01:07:28.679
came from up above the hill. And we looked. He goes,

1274
01:07:29.159 --> 01:07:31.039
I don't think we need to go up that way now.

1275
01:07:31.320 --> 01:07:34.199
I don't think so. So we made a circuit and

1276
01:07:34.239 --> 01:07:39.159
went back to the house. And that same year that

1277
01:07:39.840 --> 01:07:43.480
he was on leave, there's a pond in the woods

1278
01:07:43.519 --> 01:07:45.360
that used to be an old farmer way back there,

1279
01:07:46.000 --> 01:07:48.079
and we went back here to hog hunt. One night.

1280
01:07:48.119 --> 01:07:49.920
There was a big pig that was coming in there,

1281
01:07:50.440 --> 01:07:54.800
and there was maybe not quite a half moon, just

1282
01:07:54.880 --> 01:07:57.320
bright enough be able to see walking back in there.

1283
01:07:58.199 --> 01:08:02.760
And we sat up and he'll come in here pretty soon.

1284
01:08:03.559 --> 01:08:07.960
And all of a sudden, the night noises got extremely quiet.

1285
01:08:08.159 --> 01:08:11.920
We heard something walk behind us, and it wasn't a deer,

1286
01:08:12.760 --> 01:08:15.880
rather heavy. You could almost feel it stopped behind us,

1287
01:08:16.159 --> 01:08:19.640
and we sat there and finally you could hear it

1288
01:08:19.760 --> 01:08:22.279
walk off and went up the hill on the other

1289
01:08:22.399 --> 01:08:27.039
side of us. And we sat there for probably fifteen minutes.

1290
01:08:27.399 --> 01:08:29.399
The night noises came back, and he looked at me.

1291
01:08:29.439 --> 01:08:32.439
I go, I think we better just go to the house.

1292
01:08:33.119 --> 01:08:37.520
Things like that. My daughter, this time of year show

1293
01:08:37.560 --> 01:08:41.600
here tree knocks and usually it's after dark and she's

1294
01:08:41.600 --> 01:08:44.560
in the house with the TV on, and she called

1295
01:08:44.560 --> 01:08:47.119
me one night. Her husband's in over the road truck driver,

1296
01:08:47.399 --> 01:08:49.680
so she calls me up. She goes, look, I'm hearing

1297
01:08:49.680 --> 01:08:55.000
these noises. So I went back out there and I listen.

1298
01:08:55.239 --> 01:08:58.159
I don't really hear anything. So went and visited for

1299
01:08:58.159 --> 01:08:59.680
a little bit, and as I walked out, we heard

1300
01:08:59.680 --> 01:09:02.439
it again and it was up on the hill. I'm

1301
01:09:02.479 --> 01:09:05.399
not sure about that. That's weird. This time of year,

1302
01:09:05.560 --> 01:09:09.880
she'll hear them three knots, and she's heard three of

1303
01:09:09.920 --> 01:09:13.720
them when east of the house. One would have been

1304
01:09:13.880 --> 01:09:16.800
north and the other one would have been west. They

1305
01:09:16.800 --> 01:09:20.279
were back and forth. She says, I didn't bother the

1306
01:09:20.359 --> 01:09:24.520
dog and anymore now, she says, she goes, I've heard

1307
01:09:24.560 --> 01:09:29.239
it so much it doesn't bother me. And her husband's

1308
01:09:29.279 --> 01:09:33.079
came home from traveling one time and she'd said something

1309
01:09:33.079 --> 01:09:35.359
to about it, and he's, oh, you know, it's probably

1310
01:09:35.399 --> 01:09:37.760
the house or something. And he heard it one night too.

1311
01:09:38.239 --> 01:09:41.279
It's things like that. My sister and brother in law

1312
01:09:42.279 --> 01:09:46.239
live about three miles from us, and they're out about

1313
01:09:46.239 --> 01:09:50.000
two weeks ago, and in the evening they like to

1314
01:09:50.039 --> 01:09:53.079
walk around. They've got twelve acres and he's got a

1315
01:09:53.119 --> 01:09:56.279
trail all the way around that they walking for exercise,

1316
01:09:56.319 --> 01:10:00.640
and he said there was an extremely musky smell. He's

1317
01:10:00.800 --> 01:10:03.279
like a lot of us, we lived in this part

1318
01:10:03.319 --> 01:10:06.279
of the country and you hear things or see things

1319
01:10:06.279 --> 01:10:09.720
since yeah, that's a fox, or oh that smells like

1320
01:10:09.800 --> 01:10:12.399
pigs or whatever. He goes now, he said this was

1321
01:10:13.720 --> 01:10:16.159
nothing like he'd ever smelled before, and they went home.

1322
01:10:16.760 --> 01:10:20.199
It makes me wonder, now if they're coming through this

1323
01:10:20.319 --> 01:10:24.359
time of year, if it's a migration, where are they

1324
01:10:24.399 --> 01:10:28.239
going and how come we never experience anything like this

1325
01:10:29.000 --> 01:10:31.439
any other time of the year. I'd really like to

1326
01:10:31.479 --> 01:10:35.720
know if there's a migration pattern or something like that.

1327
01:10:35.000 --> 01:10:36.880
That would be interesting.

1328
01:10:37.920 --> 01:10:38.119
Oh.

1329
01:10:38.279 --> 01:10:41.800
Absolutely, your daughter has heard tree knocks.

1330
01:10:43.039 --> 01:10:45.359
And this has been going on. Like I said, this

1331
01:10:45.479 --> 01:10:49.840
time of year. Gosh, probably they've lived over there for

1332
01:10:50.319 --> 01:10:54.439
fifteen years on and off like that, and it's always

1333
01:10:54.479 --> 01:10:57.880
this time of year. I put game cams out and

1334
01:10:57.960 --> 01:11:03.000
I've never, unfortunately, never had a picture of anything like that.

1335
01:11:03.800 --> 01:11:06.560
I've heard and talk to people that claim that they

1336
01:11:06.640 --> 01:11:10.920
have pictures of a bigfoot. I've never seen the pictures.

1337
01:11:11.439 --> 01:11:14.239
I really would like to see that, but there's just

1338
01:11:15.119 --> 01:11:19.479
there's a state park north of US tom Soak State Park,

1339
01:11:19.760 --> 01:11:22.319
and one of the rangers a story is if he

1340
01:11:22.399 --> 01:11:25.680
went out to get some equipment one time and it

1341
01:11:25.840 --> 01:11:28.239
was off on its own. I don't know if it

1342
01:11:28.279 --> 01:11:30.640
was like a bulldoze or what, but one of the

1343
01:11:30.720 --> 01:11:33.479
ladies that work out there said that he came back

1344
01:11:33.479 --> 01:11:35.479
and said, if you want that equipment, you go get

1345
01:11:35.520 --> 01:11:38.840
it yourself. I will never go back out there, So

1346
01:11:38.920 --> 01:11:43.479
I don't know what he saw or you hear different

1347
01:11:43.479 --> 01:11:46.199
things and you just and it's always this time of year.

1348
01:11:46.279 --> 01:11:48.199
That's what's strange about it.

1349
01:11:48.800 --> 01:11:51.640
So is that a ranger you know personally or just

1350
01:11:52.479 --> 01:11:53.960
you heard about it from somewhere.

1351
01:11:54.199 --> 01:11:57.119
No one of the ladies that worked out there told

1352
01:11:57.199 --> 01:11:59.119
us about it. I don't know the ranger put us.

1353
01:11:59.520 --> 01:12:01.640
There's a lot to you hear a lot of stories

1354
01:12:01.920 --> 01:12:06.880
in hearsay. I do know four individuals and one extremely

1355
01:12:06.960 --> 01:12:11.039
well that had seen one. They were in high school

1356
01:12:11.359 --> 01:12:16.000
on riding four by fours and he said, it cross

1357
01:12:16.000 --> 01:12:18.279
the road right in front of us. And it wasn't

1358
01:12:18.279 --> 01:12:20.119
a bear, he said. The only thing I could say

1359
01:12:20.359 --> 01:12:23.680
is it was a bigfoot. And this guy's extremely reliable.

1360
01:12:24.920 --> 01:12:27.800
Same time of year. I would love to have some

1361
01:12:27.920 --> 01:12:32.159
kind of definite proof or something. Something's out there, and

1362
01:12:32.239 --> 01:12:34.640
I believe that's what it is. And this time of year,

1363
01:12:34.720 --> 01:12:37.479
like I said, it's got to be a migration pattern.

1364
01:12:38.079 --> 01:12:42.520
Have you ever talked to neighbors around around the area

1365
01:12:43.119 --> 01:12:46.520
about this as well, to see if they've ever experienced

1366
01:12:46.560 --> 01:12:48.319
anything weird on their properties.

1367
01:12:48.880 --> 01:12:52.079
One of the individuals that live was a matter of fact,

1368
01:12:52.079 --> 01:12:55.399
across the street from the Highway from my sister and

1369
01:12:55.439 --> 01:13:00.000
brother in law. They had heard this basically the same

1370
01:13:00.439 --> 01:13:05.000
we heard, only was a different time. Once again, these

1371
01:13:05.039 --> 01:13:07.119
people hunt there out in the woods a lot, and

1372
01:13:08.039 --> 01:13:11.399
he said it was. He said it literally scared him

1373
01:13:11.560 --> 01:13:14.039
to the point where he didn't think he was wanting

1374
01:13:14.079 --> 01:13:17.199
to go out in the woods anymore after that. But

1375
01:13:17.920 --> 01:13:21.279
we've had people that claim that they've had calves missing

1376
01:13:21.319 --> 01:13:24.880
and things like that. But as far as like I said,

1377
01:13:24.960 --> 01:13:28.279
is the one guy that I do know. He said

1378
01:13:28.279 --> 01:13:34.479
that he had some hunting dogs missing, and he said

1379
01:13:34.520 --> 01:13:37.760
he had a very had put a game cam up

1380
01:13:38.000 --> 01:13:41.239
and had a shadowy image of He said, the only

1381
01:13:41.279 --> 01:13:44.319
thing I could say it was a bigfoot. And once

1382
01:13:44.359 --> 01:13:47.079
again I asked, I said, hey, send me the picture.

1383
01:13:47.199 --> 01:13:49.920
I never did see it. But some people are leery

1384
01:13:49.960 --> 01:13:54.039
about talking about it. But now that this time of year,

1385
01:13:54.199 --> 01:13:57.000
like I said, this time of years when most of

1386
01:13:57.039 --> 01:14:01.760
the stuff when we hear strange noise is tree knocks

1387
01:14:02.560 --> 01:14:05.920
things like that. But like I said, some people are

1388
01:14:05.960 --> 01:14:09.319
just literally to talk about us. Well, I'm not going.

1389
01:14:09.640 --> 01:14:13.720
Let's see what's going on, So maybe get some researchers

1390
01:14:13.760 --> 01:14:14.840
down here or something.

1391
01:14:15.760 --> 01:14:19.279
Missouri is a state where there are there's a ton

1392
01:14:20.359 --> 01:14:25.079
of researchers. You've got Miguel from Sasquatch theory is hitting

1393
01:14:25.159 --> 01:14:28.279
up all sorts of places down there in Missouri. And

1394
01:14:28.479 --> 01:14:32.560
I think you guys have Mark Twain State Forest.

1395
01:14:33.119 --> 01:14:36.920
Well, Mark Twain. That's just yes's right a stone throw

1396
01:14:37.000 --> 01:14:41.560
from here, is it really? Yeah? Oh boy? And like

1397
01:14:41.600 --> 01:14:46.800
I said, there's literally miles and miles of nothing, but

1398
01:14:46.920 --> 01:14:50.399
for us, it's a great habitat. Lots of food. Deer,

1399
01:14:50.880 --> 01:14:56.800
wild hogs. Yeah, there's great habitat for them. So I

1400
01:14:57.159 --> 01:15:01.720
even said an email to it. I've never heard back

1401
01:15:01.720 --> 01:15:05.520
from them when I started following you. Oh maybe I

1402
01:15:05.560 --> 01:15:09.279
can get a like minded person or some response. I'm

1403
01:15:09.279 --> 01:15:12.039
glad that you contacted me. That's wonderful.

1404
01:15:12.600 --> 01:15:16.640
Absolutely, whenever I get a connection, I always like to

1405
01:15:16.640 --> 01:15:20.439
see if I can talk, because you never know what

1406
01:15:20.560 --> 01:15:24.640
kind of small thing you might drop and that might

1407
01:15:24.720 --> 01:15:30.119
help someone who's listening, or some connection out there big

1408
01:15:30.159 --> 01:15:48.840
for society will be right back. After these messages, it

1409
01:15:49.199 --> 01:15:54.359
feels like your daughter's having some really interesting things going on.

1410
01:15:55.359 --> 01:15:58.560
She's really the one that's heard more tree knocks I've

1411
01:15:59.319 --> 01:16:02.039
I heard. Oh gosh, it's been a number of years

1412
01:16:02.079 --> 01:16:04.479
ago and I was in a tree stand bow hunting

1413
01:16:05.199 --> 01:16:08.199
and it was I heard it, and it was like,

1414
01:16:09.560 --> 01:16:11.560
maybe that's a woodpecker.

1415
01:16:12.359 --> 01:16:12.640
And I.

1416
01:16:14.119 --> 01:16:18.560
Didn't even think about that for a long time until

1417
01:16:18.600 --> 01:16:21.760
Leslie started here in a minute, say, that's probably what

1418
01:16:21.880 --> 01:16:25.359
I heard, because those seasons this time of year two. So,

1419
01:16:26.680 --> 01:16:29.800
like I said, I'd really like to see if there

1420
01:16:29.880 --> 01:16:34.199
was a way that people could put the dates together

1421
01:16:34.319 --> 01:16:37.000
in different locations in the country and see if there

1422
01:16:37.079 --> 01:16:38.199
is a migration trail.

1423
01:16:38.800 --> 01:16:41.319
That's a cool idea. So you said you were in

1424
01:16:41.720 --> 01:16:45.960
a tree stand hunting and you started to hear knocks

1425
01:16:46.000 --> 01:16:46.520
around you.

1426
01:16:47.079 --> 01:16:50.800
Yeah, would have been up the ridge from where I

1427
01:16:50.880 --> 01:16:53.880
was sitting in a tree stand, And like I said,

1428
01:16:53.880 --> 01:16:57.880
at first, I thought I really didn't equate it to that,

1429
01:16:58.720 --> 01:17:00.960
But now that I've think about it, and it was

1430
01:17:01.000 --> 01:17:04.199
more than one time, so I wish i'd have thought

1431
01:17:04.199 --> 01:17:08.439
about it back then. So, although I don't know how

1432
01:17:08.479 --> 01:17:11.199
happy i'd be to be in a tree stand with

1433
01:17:11.199 --> 01:17:12.359
a bigfoot running.

1434
01:17:12.079 --> 01:17:17.000
Around, yeah, exactly, that can lead to some really interesting

1435
01:17:17.640 --> 01:17:21.039
scenarios that I've heard of, and it can really definitely

1436
01:17:21.079 --> 01:17:24.159
mess with you. Was there a pattern to the Knox

1437
01:17:24.239 --> 01:17:26.079
that you heard when you were up in a tree stand.

1438
01:17:26.680 --> 01:17:31.640
I'd here. I remember there's probably three to four knocks,

1439
01:17:32.159 --> 01:17:35.000
and then it was like a delay, and then again,

1440
01:17:35.760 --> 01:17:38.319
and then I didn't hear it anymore. And like I said,

1441
01:17:38.359 --> 01:17:41.399
at first, I just blew it off as a kind

1442
01:17:41.399 --> 01:17:44.520
of animal, or if it was a little windy, maybe

1443
01:17:44.560 --> 01:17:47.359
it was a tree limb hitting another tree. I never

1444
01:17:47.399 --> 01:17:50.600
did put two and two together at the time, but

1445
01:17:51.479 --> 01:17:53.960
it was interesting, not that i'd have went up the hill.

1446
01:17:53.840 --> 01:17:58.359
To look exactly the scream that was heard. Do you

1447
01:17:58.359 --> 01:18:04.000
remember any details about length, duration, anything weird that you noticed.

1448
01:18:04.840 --> 01:18:11.840
It was a very one of these extremely long golly,

1449
01:18:12.479 --> 01:18:18.760
it was probably thirty seconds forty seconds long, extremely long,

1450
01:18:18.920 --> 01:18:22.039
extremely loud, and it was one of these things that

1451
01:18:22.279 --> 01:18:24.760
just raised the hair up on the back of your neck.

1452
01:18:25.239 --> 01:18:27.880
What in the world. And like I said, when the

1453
01:18:27.920 --> 01:18:31.800
coyotes took off and they yelped and screamed until they

1454
01:18:31.800 --> 01:18:34.760
went out of earshot, and we looked at each other

1455
01:18:34.800 --> 01:18:37.600
and it was like, what in the world is that?

1456
01:18:38.720 --> 01:18:41.640
And when we talked to our neighbors and they heard

1457
01:18:41.720 --> 01:18:48.079
something similar, only it was probably a year later, and

1458
01:18:48.119 --> 01:18:51.479
that's when we even looked up. We started listening to

1459
01:18:51.920 --> 01:18:54.840
animal noises on the phone. Okay, what's the bear sound like?

1460
01:18:54.960 --> 01:18:59.640
But we know what mountain lions and bobcats and coyotes

1461
01:18:59.680 --> 01:19:02.560
and five that sound like. But we couldn't get anything

1462
01:19:02.760 --> 01:19:08.159
like that. And then he said, let's look up noises

1463
01:19:08.279 --> 01:19:10.960
for bigfoot, and he started to listen to different things,

1464
01:19:10.960 --> 01:19:15.840
and there was one in particular, and it was like, whoa,

1465
01:19:15.880 --> 01:19:18.600
I think that's it. And it was I think a

1466
01:19:18.720 --> 01:19:23.520
recording from Washington or Oregon or something like that. But yeah,

1467
01:19:23.640 --> 01:19:26.520
it was one of these things. It brings the primeval

1468
01:19:26.680 --> 01:19:27.640
fear out.

1469
01:19:27.800 --> 01:19:33.039
Have there been any other out of place sounds that

1470
01:19:33.239 --> 01:19:35.760
have been heard around the properties at all.

1471
01:19:35.600 --> 01:19:41.439
Or not that anybody's talked about. Mainly, the main thing

1472
01:19:41.479 --> 01:19:44.359
that we hear a lot is a tree knox. And

1473
01:19:44.640 --> 01:19:46.800
like I said, the rock being thrown at us was

1474
01:19:47.600 --> 01:19:50.600
that's when I really it's like my daughter told me,

1475
01:19:50.640 --> 01:19:52.880
she goes, that's when you really got interested in it.

1476
01:19:53.359 --> 01:19:55.800
I wanted to start researching a little bit, and I

1477
01:19:55.880 --> 01:19:58.680
talked to people. I've got a big footsticker on the

1478
01:19:58.760 --> 01:20:01.920
tailgate of my truck, and of course I've got the

1479
01:20:01.920 --> 01:20:03.720
one in my front yard too that I showed you

1480
01:20:03.720 --> 01:20:07.439
a picture of that funny story. But anyway, people will

1481
01:20:07.439 --> 01:20:09.560
see that and I'll go, hey, you believe in Bigfoot?

1482
01:20:10.199 --> 01:20:13.279
Sure how about you, and some people will open up

1483
01:20:13.319 --> 01:20:16.840
a little bit. I thought I heard this, or I

1484
01:20:16.920 --> 01:20:19.920
thought somebody talked about this. You hear second a lot

1485
01:20:19.920 --> 01:20:25.359
of secondhand stuff, but as far as just down to

1486
01:20:25.439 --> 01:20:28.880
earth things, I just know what's happened to my family

1487
01:20:28.920 --> 01:20:35.199
and myself. But yeah, I really started. Somebody wants to

1488
01:20:35.239 --> 01:20:37.119
talk about it, I'm open to talk about it and

1489
01:20:37.159 --> 01:20:40.039
see what they hear, what they know. And like I said,

1490
01:20:40.079 --> 01:20:41.399
it's always this time of year.

1491
01:20:42.760 --> 01:20:47.000
You had mentioned really quick that there were some dogs

1492
01:20:47.039 --> 01:20:49.600
that came up Missus a gentleman.

1493
01:20:49.720 --> 01:20:56.279
He lives probably i'd say twenty twenty miles from us.

1494
01:20:56.720 --> 01:21:00.359
I stopped at his place of business one day. He

1495
01:21:00.439 --> 01:21:02.760
saw my truck and he goes, oh, Bigfoot, and I go, yeah,

1496
01:21:02.760 --> 01:21:05.920
I goes, Hey goes, I've got a picture one. I go,

1497
01:21:06.159 --> 01:21:08.279
you're kidding me, I said, can I see it? He

1498
01:21:08.359 --> 01:21:11.920
showed me on his phone and it was taken from

1499
01:21:12.119 --> 01:21:17.359
his game cam. You could see the outline and it

1500
01:21:17.439 --> 01:21:20.840
looked like he had something. It looked like it had

1501
01:21:20.880 --> 01:21:23.520
something in its hand. And the guy goes, that's my dog.

1502
01:21:24.399 --> 01:21:27.560
I'm going your kidney. No, he says, I've been missing dogs.

1503
01:21:27.600 --> 01:21:29.239
And he said, I put my game cam up and

1504
01:21:29.279 --> 01:21:31.880
that's what I got. And I said, would you send

1505
01:21:31.880 --> 01:21:33.840
me that picture? And I gave my phone number, but

1506
01:21:33.880 --> 01:21:36.920
like I said, I never got it. But yeah, and

1507
01:21:37.319 --> 01:21:41.239
he was an avid hunter and he uses dogs for

1508
01:21:41.399 --> 01:21:45.119
pig hunting, so they weren't little dogs by any stretch

1509
01:21:45.119 --> 01:21:51.359
of the imagination. But yeah, it was I'd really like

1510
01:21:51.439 --> 01:21:54.359
to talk to him again and see if he's had

1511
01:21:54.399 --> 01:21:58.720
any That was last yeah, last year, see if he's

1512
01:21:58.720 --> 01:22:03.880
had any incidents this year. And there's a doctor in Salem,

1513
01:22:03.920 --> 01:22:06.319
which is like fifty miles from here, and he does

1514
01:22:06.359 --> 01:22:08.359
a lot of research. I have not been able to

1515
01:22:08.359 --> 01:22:11.079
get in touch with him, but yeah, and they claim

1516
01:22:11.119 --> 01:22:13.119
he's done a lot of research and did talks on

1517
01:22:13.159 --> 01:22:15.960
it and all that, but like I said, I've never

1518
01:22:16.000 --> 01:22:19.079
been able to get in touch with him. So once again,

1519
01:22:19.119 --> 01:22:25.479
it's all secondhand information. But there's definitely a pattern or

1520
01:22:25.520 --> 01:22:26.479
something through here.

1521
01:22:27.119 --> 01:22:29.920
Living in that area of the Ozarks. Are there other

1522
01:22:30.000 --> 01:22:33.680
weird things that happen to or primarily a bigfoot type

1523
01:22:33.720 --> 01:22:37.159
thing going on there? Sometimes these areas have other things

1524
01:22:37.199 --> 01:22:37.880
going on too.

1525
01:22:39.079 --> 01:22:42.960
There's people that see different things, hear different noises and

1526
01:22:43.000 --> 01:22:45.920
stuff like that. Being in the Ozarks here is a

1527
01:22:46.079 --> 01:22:49.720
lot of oh, I don't even know what you would

1528
01:22:49.800 --> 01:22:54.800
call it, superstitions and things like that. But I've heard

1529
01:22:54.800 --> 01:22:57.319
some of the older people talk about, oh, there was

1530
01:22:57.560 --> 01:23:01.520
like some kind of wolf that would go through and

1531
01:23:01.520 --> 01:23:04.439
make all these weird noises and stuff, and there have been.

1532
01:23:04.640 --> 01:23:07.079
Matter of fact, my brother in law has a picture

1533
01:23:07.159 --> 01:23:10.680
of a wolf. He'd killed a hog on his property,

1534
01:23:10.960 --> 01:23:12.960
about a four hundred pound hog, and there was a

1535
01:23:13.000 --> 01:23:16.000
wolf he got a picture on a game cam. I

1536
01:23:16.039 --> 01:23:20.079
think was huge. People will hear things like that. It's

1537
01:23:20.119 --> 01:23:22.800
not that there's a lot of wolves around. I think

1538
01:23:22.840 --> 01:23:28.319
they probably migrate through too, But yeah, different things like that.

1539
01:23:29.119 --> 01:23:31.199
Like I said, a lot of superstitions, a lot of

1540
01:23:31.239 --> 01:23:36.239
areas that people won't go into. Mark Twain National Forest

1541
01:23:36.279 --> 01:23:40.479
has herds of wild horses believe it or not, in there,

1542
01:23:40.880 --> 01:23:43.760
and now we have elk, so people will see something

1543
01:23:43.800 --> 01:23:46.399
and it could be just a large elk going through.

1544
01:23:47.000 --> 01:23:51.079
They started that ten years ago bringing elk back in.

1545
01:23:51.800 --> 01:23:55.800
You mentioned large wolves. Do you think from what you've

1546
01:23:55.800 --> 01:23:59.279
heard these are actual wolves or is it ever these

1547
01:23:59.319 --> 01:24:05.239
stories could be like a humanoid type canine or a

1548
01:24:05.319 --> 01:24:06.560
dog man or anything like that.

1549
01:24:07.399 --> 01:24:10.600
There are people, they'd be a little more south of

1550
01:24:10.680 --> 01:24:13.880
us that they claim that there's a dog man. I've

1551
01:24:14.520 --> 01:24:17.880
around here. I've never heard anybody mentioned anything like that.

1552
01:24:18.479 --> 01:24:22.159
Further south the Missouri Arkansas border down in that part,

1553
01:24:22.239 --> 01:24:25.239
people talk about it, but up here, I've never seen it.

1554
01:24:25.279 --> 01:24:29.159
I've got the picture of the wolf and the pig.

1555
01:24:29.239 --> 01:24:31.359
I'll send it to you when we're done talking. But

1556
01:24:32.119 --> 01:24:34.920
as far as dog man and things like that, I've

1557
01:24:35.960 --> 01:24:39.159
I've never heard anything like that around here. Primarily people

1558
01:24:39.479 --> 01:24:43.159
if they hear anything they have they'll either blow it

1559
01:24:43.199 --> 01:24:46.680
off or that could be a bigfoot. Some people will

1560
01:24:46.720 --> 01:24:48.920
say that kind of laugh about it, but I think

1561
01:24:49.399 --> 01:24:53.880
they think that that could be. There's definitely something that

1562
01:24:54.000 --> 01:24:56.960
goes through here this time of year. I have seen

1563
01:24:58.880 --> 01:25:02.960
type structures before walking through the woods and at the

1564
01:25:03.000 --> 01:25:04.439
time you go through there and you look at it

1565
01:25:04.439 --> 01:25:06.199
and go, you know, wow, there must have been a

1566
01:25:06.239 --> 01:25:08.760
lot of wind or something. And doing a little more

1567
01:25:08.800 --> 01:25:13.960
research is that's odd. It's we don't have snowload around here,

1568
01:25:14.079 --> 01:25:16.079
and if we do have a lot of wind, the

1569
01:25:16.159 --> 01:25:19.600
trees usually get blown over. They don't get put up

1570
01:25:20.439 --> 01:25:21.600
like tripod things.

1571
01:25:21.640 --> 01:25:26.319
And yeah, yeah, that's not normal for sure. Yeah, you

1572
01:25:26.479 --> 01:25:31.960
mentioned that there were some areas that people stick stay

1573
01:25:31.960 --> 01:25:36.119
away from. Is that anything you have more details about

1574
01:25:36.600 --> 01:25:39.960
what these certain areas are or why they're still going from.

1575
01:25:40.680 --> 01:25:42.640
No, and it's it was more.

1576
01:25:43.600 --> 01:25:44.159
Oh.

1577
01:25:44.439 --> 01:25:46.880
I hate to say old timers because that's what I'm now.

1578
01:25:49.920 --> 01:25:52.920
But No, as a kid, you hear people talk about it.

1579
01:25:54.000 --> 01:25:56.520
That's you don't want to go down in that part

1580
01:25:56.560 --> 01:26:00.079
of the woods. That's that's just not that's not a

1581
01:26:00.119 --> 01:26:03.479
good place to go, and things like that, and you

1582
01:26:03.520 --> 01:26:06.880
don't hear too much of that anymore. Like I said,

1583
01:26:07.319 --> 01:26:10.079
a lot of the old people, old timers would say that.

1584
01:26:10.119 --> 01:26:12.640
I remember as a kid, there was a lady that

1585
01:26:13.000 --> 01:26:15.800
told my cousin and I that there was a place

1586
01:26:15.840 --> 01:26:21.840
that somebody had She said, the Indians had a mine

1587
01:26:21.880 --> 01:26:23.720
and all that stuff. He didn't want to go up there.

1588
01:26:24.000 --> 01:26:29.239
Being kids, we actually found it and it was creepy,

1589
01:26:29.319 --> 01:26:32.760
but we didn't hang around too long. But like I said,

1590
01:26:33.159 --> 01:26:35.439
a lot of people would in the old days would

1591
01:26:35.439 --> 01:26:38.720
say stuff like that. But you don't really hear too

1592
01:26:38.800 --> 01:26:42.359
much of that anymore. A lot of there's not I

1593
01:26:42.399 --> 01:26:45.880
hate to say it, A lot of the younger kids,

1594
01:26:46.039 --> 01:26:49.319
they're not into going out in the woods hunting that much.

1595
01:26:49.640 --> 01:26:53.039
There's some, but not like it was when I was

1596
01:26:53.079 --> 01:26:57.079
a kid. He practically lived in the woods. But you

1597
01:26:57.119 --> 01:26:59.840
don't hear too much of that anymore. There are places,

1598
01:27:00.000 --> 01:27:03.760
but I'm sure that people would avoid for one reason

1599
01:27:03.880 --> 01:27:06.239
or another. But I've only heard of a couple of them,

1600
01:27:06.279 --> 01:27:07.680
and that was one of them that my cousin and

1601
01:27:07.680 --> 01:27:09.840
I went to that one time. But other than that,

1602
01:27:09.840 --> 01:27:11.640
I don't hear too much of it anymore.

1603
01:27:12.600 --> 01:27:14.840
Have you ever heard of a place called the Marley

1604
01:27:14.920 --> 01:27:15.880
Woods in Missouri?

1605
01:27:16.479 --> 01:27:19.880
Marley Woods? No, it doesn't ring a bell.

1606
01:27:20.640 --> 01:27:25.039
Yeah, I'm not surprised. It's supposedly someplace in Missouri where

1607
01:27:25.039 --> 01:27:29.840
it's like a ranch type setting where there's a lot

1608
01:27:29.880 --> 01:27:34.720
of really weird stuff that happens, including UFOs and just

1609
01:27:35.000 --> 01:27:37.560
we really weird things like that. But it's kind of

1610
01:27:37.600 --> 01:27:42.800
like only a few people are aware of the location

1611
01:27:43.720 --> 01:27:46.720
as it's private property stuff like that. But it's one

1612
01:27:46.760 --> 01:27:47.319
of those things.

1613
01:27:47.159 --> 01:27:52.960
That's never No, we've seen unidentified flying objects around here.

1614
01:27:53.439 --> 01:27:56.399
I was in the Air Force and there's things that

1615
01:27:56.479 --> 01:28:00.239
I've seen here and that's no plane that's no sad light.

1616
01:28:00.520 --> 01:28:03.479
That's just weird. And once in a while somebody will

1617
01:28:03.479 --> 01:28:06.560
say saying, oh wow, I saw UFO last night. Doesn't

1618
01:28:06.600 --> 01:28:09.199
surprise me. My son in law and I will go

1619
01:28:09.239 --> 01:28:16.319
out go out at night in hog Hunt and it's amazing.

1620
01:28:16.359 --> 01:28:19.840
Some of the things in the sky extremely interesting, and

1621
01:28:19.840 --> 01:28:22.840
some of it it's like, what is it? Don't have

1622
01:28:22.920 --> 01:28:26.159
a clue. There is a place in Missouri, I think

1623
01:28:26.199 --> 01:28:30.479
it's a west somewhere southwest where there is a light

1624
01:28:30.760 --> 01:28:33.760
that evidently goes up and down a road. They talk

1625
01:28:33.840 --> 01:28:36.680
about that too. I remember where that was at in

1626
01:28:36.680 --> 01:28:39.479
there west plains or something. I've never seen it.

1627
01:28:39.880 --> 01:28:44.600
So, so you said you saw some like UFO type

1628
01:28:45.319 --> 01:28:47.880
things in the sky. Were was it like strange lights

1629
01:28:48.039 --> 01:28:51.159
or like an actual craft that you saw.

1630
01:28:51.199 --> 01:28:54.880
Or strange lights? One night we were my daughter and

1631
01:28:55.359 --> 01:28:57.439
my wife and my two daughters were coming back and

1632
01:28:57.479 --> 01:29:02.840
there was a large why craft or something and I

1633
01:29:02.960 --> 01:29:06.479
stopped in the road and they said, you just need

1634
01:29:06.479 --> 01:29:11.680
to keep going. Yeah, you there's no there's hardly any

1635
01:29:11.800 --> 01:29:13.880
light pollution down here. So you see a lot of

1636
01:29:13.920 --> 01:29:16.239
stuff that was just bizarre.

1637
01:29:16.479 --> 01:29:18.720
You stopped in the road to look at it, and

1638
01:29:18.840 --> 01:29:21.239
your families you just need to keep driving.

1639
01:29:22.159 --> 01:29:22.880
Just drive.

1640
01:29:23.000 --> 01:29:24.960
Yeah, that's really interesting.

1641
01:29:25.600 --> 01:29:31.960
Yeah, it was, it was. It was really interesting. But no,

1642
01:29:32.119 --> 01:29:34.880
and then once in a while you'll see something like

1643
01:29:34.920 --> 01:29:37.399
I said, I have no idea what it is. It's

1644
01:29:38.600 --> 01:29:41.760
there's can't be human made. With the way the thing,

1645
01:29:42.399 --> 01:29:46.039
with the way they move, part of ninety degree turns

1646
01:29:46.640 --> 01:29:50.319
be there, I'll get real bright and disappear. Just things

1647
01:29:50.399 --> 01:29:53.960
like that. It's it's cool to watch, but at the

1648
01:29:54.000 --> 01:29:56.680
same time you wonder what is it and where did

1649
01:29:56.760 --> 01:29:57.560
it come from.

1650
01:29:57.920 --> 01:30:02.520
Yeah, there's been some really interesting reports from Missouri over

1651
01:30:02.560 --> 01:30:07.600
the years. You've got everything from the Momo monster back

1652
01:30:07.600 --> 01:30:11.119
in the day. More recent during the I think it's

1653
01:30:11.119 --> 01:30:17.159
the Joplin tornadoes, people were reporting seeing beliefs. They were

1654
01:30:17.159 --> 01:30:21.000
calling them butterfly people around the time of the tornadoes,

1655
01:30:21.039 --> 01:30:24.560
and some people were thinking maybe some form of angels.

1656
01:30:24.560 --> 01:30:28.199
We're not sure, but it's just it's a very interesting state.

1657
01:30:28.960 --> 01:30:33.039
Sure it is. Depending on where you're from, there's a

1658
01:30:33.079 --> 01:30:38.119
golly different beliefs things like that. Yeah, like I said,

1659
01:30:38.119 --> 01:30:40.239
the one place down the West Plains with the light

1660
01:30:40.880 --> 01:30:44.479
and then for the south, the Howler or whatever you

1661
01:30:44.520 --> 01:30:47.600
want to call it. There's just there's all kinds of

1662
01:30:47.640 --> 01:30:50.720
things up north by the rivers. I'm sure there's things

1663
01:30:50.800 --> 01:30:55.399
up there, but yeah, down here primarily, like I said,

1664
01:30:55.399 --> 01:30:58.840
this time of year, you'll hear tree knocks. And like

1665
01:30:58.840 --> 01:31:01.000
I said, the rock throne thing was the one thing

1666
01:31:01.039 --> 01:31:04.279
that really that in the same time period when we

1667
01:31:04.359 --> 01:31:09.039
had whatever was walk behind us, just it was bipedal.

1668
01:31:09.119 --> 01:31:13.199
It was extremely heavy, and yeah, it was one of

1669
01:31:13.279 --> 01:31:15.640
those things. I've never been afraid to be in the woods,

1670
01:31:16.439 --> 01:31:20.399
but that right there creeped me out. My grandson said,

1671
01:31:21.560 --> 01:31:24.600
you about done her. Grandpa say, let's get the heck

1672
01:31:24.680 --> 01:31:26.760
out of here, so went back home.

1673
01:31:27.439 --> 01:31:31.960
Yeah, you were talking about the howler. Is that in

1674
01:31:32.079 --> 01:31:34.800
reference to when you heard the screams?

1675
01:31:35.239 --> 01:31:40.000
I would that was more I've heard people talk about

1676
01:31:40.000 --> 01:31:43.920
the howler, but that's more of a I would think

1677
01:31:43.920 --> 01:31:48.800
of a wolf type sound. This was a wow. I

1678
01:31:48.840 --> 01:31:52.319
can't it's hard. It would be I wouldn't even call

1679
01:31:52.319 --> 01:31:57.640
it would be like an extremely frightened woman's scream, only

1680
01:31:57.760 --> 01:32:03.239
more guttural. But it was. Yeah, that was really strange.

1681
01:32:03.600 --> 01:32:07.520
And like I said, for all those coyotes to run

1682
01:32:07.560 --> 01:32:10.239
away the way they did, if it was just a

1683
01:32:10.279 --> 01:32:13.119
screaming probably want I don't know what that is. But

1684
01:32:14.000 --> 01:32:16.720
to hear the coyotes run the way they did, there

1685
01:32:16.840 --> 01:32:19.680
was obviously something up there they didn't want to be around.

1686
01:32:20.159 --> 01:32:23.600
That always makes you wonder, right, like when you hear

1687
01:32:24.119 --> 01:32:27.680
these reports or you actually hear the recordings where it's

1688
01:32:27.720 --> 01:32:30.800
like something large makes that noise and then the coyotes

1689
01:32:30.920 --> 01:32:35.479
just noted shut up. They've probably been messed with from

1690
01:32:35.560 --> 01:32:37.800
it in the past. It'd be interesting if you put

1691
01:32:37.840 --> 01:32:42.119
the sound recorder out in there area captured.

1692
01:32:42.720 --> 01:32:43.159
Yeah.

1693
01:32:43.439 --> 01:32:45.319
As a matter of fact, my daughter and son in

1694
01:32:45.439 --> 01:32:48.119
law did that, put one on the back of their

1695
01:32:48.199 --> 01:32:53.560
house facing the forest, and there were sounds that they

1696
01:32:53.640 --> 01:32:56.680
heard and when they checked the recording, it wasn't on

1697
01:32:56.720 --> 01:33:01.079
the recording. Yeah. What in the world, he said, I

1698
01:33:01.159 --> 01:33:04.039
know that thing's working, right, you'd hear the dogs bark

1699
01:33:04.039 --> 01:33:06.319
and all that, but you couldn't hear that. Oh, so

1700
01:33:06.359 --> 01:33:07.399
they here in the house.

1701
01:33:07.359 --> 01:33:10.359
They can hear stuff through their own ears, but it's

1702
01:33:10.439 --> 01:33:12.680
not getting picked up. That is really weird.

1703
01:33:12.760 --> 01:33:15.479
It's not getting picked up. Yeah. Like I said, we've

1704
01:33:15.479 --> 01:33:19.199
got game cams we put up and we've captured a

1705
01:33:19.199 --> 01:33:22.640
lot of different things, but not that. I don't even

1706
01:33:22.680 --> 01:33:25.159
know how you would track those I put them on

1707
01:33:25.199 --> 01:33:28.800
game trails before out in the woods to see if

1708
01:33:28.800 --> 01:33:31.479
we could see anything. But like I said, I've got

1709
01:33:31.560 --> 01:33:34.520
pictures of deer, I've got pictures of dogs and hogs,

1710
01:33:34.600 --> 01:33:35.920
but nothing like that.

1711
01:33:36.960 --> 01:33:40.239
No one's trying to do like a gifting type situation

1712
01:33:40.560 --> 01:33:43.000
or leave food for them or anything like that.

1713
01:33:43.079 --> 01:33:46.720
Right, No, we haven't tried anything like that.

1714
01:33:46.720 --> 01:33:47.199
That's good.

1715
01:33:47.760 --> 01:33:51.439
Yeah, I don't know if I want to feed the

1716
01:33:51.479 --> 01:33:54.960
animals like that or not, but I've not heard of

1717
01:33:55.039 --> 01:33:58.479
anyone trying that. Like I said, there's so much out

1718
01:33:58.520 --> 01:34:02.439
in the forest farm. We've got so much deer, and

1719
01:34:02.880 --> 01:34:05.920
like I said, the faroh hogs are unbelievable. There's so

1720
01:34:05.960 --> 01:34:09.159
many of them. They have ample food, for sure. I

1721
01:34:09.199 --> 01:34:13.079
don't know. That is interesting. I remember seeing the TV

1722
01:34:13.159 --> 01:34:15.840
show with they were putting stuff out for him to eat,

1723
01:34:15.880 --> 01:34:17.920
donuts and all kinds of stuff, and I keep thinking

1724
01:34:18.000 --> 01:34:20.680
that maybe that's hooey. I don't I'm not.

1725
01:34:20.600 --> 01:34:26.279
Sure, but yeah, my personally it's I am very wary

1726
01:34:26.359 --> 01:34:29.039
of stuff like that because like one of the times,

1727
01:34:29.079 --> 01:34:32.840
you're gonna either stop feeding them or you're gonna forget too.

1728
01:34:33.000 --> 01:34:36.000
And that's like those are the reports I take where

1729
01:34:36.000 --> 01:34:39.039
it's like it's just stuff goes haywire after that.

1730
01:34:39.880 --> 01:34:45.039
Yeah, yeah, I think I'd pass on that action for sure. Yeah,

1731
01:34:45.279 --> 01:34:47.520
no sense pushing my Look, I don't mind putting game

1732
01:34:47.560 --> 01:34:51.920
cams out and seeing if I can hear them, but no, yeah,

1733
01:34:51.960 --> 01:34:54.840
that might irritate them quite a bit.

1734
01:34:55.680 --> 01:34:55.880
Dan.

1735
01:34:55.960 --> 01:34:59.439
It has been a fun chatting with you. It sounds

1736
01:34:59.439 --> 01:35:02.439
like you you have some really interesting stuff going on there.

1737
01:35:03.199 --> 01:35:06.079
Definitely keep me in the loop. If you hear some

1738
01:35:06.119 --> 01:35:09.159
more stuff go on down there.

1739
01:35:09.439 --> 01:35:13.359
I definitely will. And like I said, I'll talk to

1740
01:35:13.399 --> 01:35:15.720
different people see if there's anything. This time of year,

1741
01:35:15.720 --> 01:35:18.960
there's a lot of people deer hunting and things like that.

1742
01:35:19.119 --> 01:35:23.039
See if there's anything that anyone locally has heard. I

1743
01:35:23.079 --> 01:35:24.800
can chine to picture of the wolf too, if you

1744
01:35:24.840 --> 01:35:27.720
want to see what you think of that. My daughter,

1745
01:35:27.800 --> 01:35:32.359
particularly she's she'll tell me I heard him again last night, Dad,

1746
01:35:32.920 --> 01:35:34.880
And like I said, at first it bothered her, but

1747
01:35:34.960 --> 01:35:39.640
now whatever. She thought it was weird when she heard

1748
01:35:39.640 --> 01:35:41.720
the three of them going back and forth though, which

1749
01:35:41.760 --> 01:35:45.279
I can I can understand that because where her house

1750
01:35:45.359 --> 01:35:47.279
is at it's on the back of the back side

1751
01:35:47.279 --> 01:35:53.640
of the farm. Yeah, but pretty interesting. But I'll keep

1752
01:35:53.640 --> 01:35:55.520
my ear to the ground see what I can find out.

1753
01:35:55.600 --> 01:35:59.159
If I hear anything interesting, I'll be more than happy

1754
01:35:59.159 --> 01:35:59.840
to drop your line.

1755
01:36:00.119 --> 01:36:03.520
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