March 23, 2026

A Northern Wisconsin Landowner Describes The Creature Watching Him Build In The Woods

A Northern Wisconsin Landowner Describes The Creature Watching Him Build In The Woods
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Season 1

In this episode, we delve into the extraordinary experience of Jack from Wisconsin, a combat veteran who purchased a piece of remote land in the Chequamegon–Nicolet National Forest with plans of slowly building his future retirement property. While spending time alone in the woods working on small projects and learning the land, Jack began noticing things that didn’t quite add up. One night, a powerful roar echoed through the forest near his campsite, leaving him unsettled and searching for answers.


As the months passed and he continued developing the property, something in the woods seemed to be paying close attention to his work. What first appeared to be nothing more than a strange dark stump near some deadfall slowly revealed itself to be something very different. Jack describes the moment he realized he was being watched, along with the details of what he observed looking back at him from the trees.


He also shares unusual details about the property itself, including curious tree formations in the surrounding woods and the possibility that certain sounds he was making while building may have drawn something closer to investigate. Jack’s account offers a grounded and thoughtful look at what it feels like when a lifelong skeptic suddenly finds himself questioning what might be living deep in the forests of northern Wisconsin.


Join us as we explore Jack’s experience in the Chequamegon–Nicolet National Forest and the lingering questions that remain about what might still be watching from the woods.


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You're listening to Big for Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron.

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In this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to

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bring you first hand encounters from people who say they've

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seen something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers

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to quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere,

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and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.

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These are the voices of the people who've lived it.

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To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that

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just might change the way you see the woods forever.

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So stay with us, all right, Big for Society. You've

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got the privilege of talking to Jack today. Jack is

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an individual I got connected to and a little bit

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of background information for Jack. He's a twenty two year

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combat infantry vet. Thank you for your service to our country.

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Jack, Thank you.

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We've got some really interesting things to go over today

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that Jack has experienced. I'll let him share the details

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for that. But Jack, is there anything else that we

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would need to know about you for context before we

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get into things.

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No, I'm just an ordinary guy that had quite the

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quite the experience. That's pretty much it.

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Absolutely and it's just the wildest thing where this phenomenon

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keeps happening to people that are just ordinary people. You

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can really think of any profession, and there have been

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individuals in that profession that I have had encounters. Jack,

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feel free to take us back to when you first

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started realizing that you were having an experience that was

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out of the ordinary.

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Regarding this, okay, well, kind of start out with. You know,

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for years, I've put away money to buy a piece

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of land to retire on, and I decided to buy

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a piece of land out in Wisconsin, and I check

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them all Nicole National Forest in Wisconsin, and so after

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I was pretty excited I was able to get this

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piece of land in such an area that I brought.

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You know, I didn't have anything. I didn't have any

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camping gear or any of that stuff. And my grandmother

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years ago told me, if you feel like you're being watched,

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you probably are anyway. So I going up there, and

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I took the car and I slept in the car

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that night just because I wanted to be there, and

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always had this feeling the whole time that I was

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being watched. It was kind of weird. I didn't think

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nothing of it, but that little feeling saved me and

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I rack a couple times. Anyways, I went back again.

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This time I had a little pop up trailer, second

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time I ever put it together. And one of the

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nights I was kind of sleeping. It was first night,

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and I noticed that the door was opened to the

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pop up. I you know, obviously had to get up.

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It was kind of cold, and I heard this roar,

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and I but I'm not scared of anything, but that

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scared me. Man only scares me. Man doesn't scare me.

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It's God scares me. This thing terrified me. And it

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was probably I'm guessing fifty seventy five meters away from

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where this sound was, and it was a roar that

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I just couldn't get out of them out of my head.

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And I didn't think anything about after that. Very first

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thing I said when that happened was is what was that?

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Just like everybody else said as far as I can

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understand on all the videos. But anyways, I didn't think

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nothing of it, kind of made jokes about it and everything.

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And I'm one of those guys that, you know, I

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totally dissed people that believed in bigfoot or anything like that.

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I you know, I think it was a bobo, the

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squatcher or something. I kind of was like, pooh, pooh

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did whatever. I thought it was a joke. Anyways, so

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I did some mess in kind of investigating. I was

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trying to I went on YouTube, and I was looking

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for all the sounds in that area that any kind

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of creatures would make, and I couldn't find anything. I

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even talked to some guys at work and oh, that's

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probably coyotes, and no, I know what a coyote sounds like. Anyway,

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so I it was about three hours of listening to

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audios for different creatures and finally I looked up bigfoot

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sounds and I found one that was almost identical but

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not quite identical, and it was the top five bigfoot sounds.

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It was the fourth one, and it was this is

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long how except for the how that I heard was

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extremely loud, sounded me and at the end of the

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how it was kind of sounded like it was frustrated,

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if that makes any sense. So but I didn't think

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of anything of that, so I just kind of went

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down whatever not even didn't even think about it then.

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And so anyway, so that was that was one year,

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and then the following year. I think this was two

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years ago. I know it was it two years ago.

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It was last year, and I was putting together a

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privy and outhouse and I kind of was just after

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after it, guess because I want to live on a

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thing and I got to have a place to do

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my thing to build. Anyways, so i was just kind

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of scanning the woods and I'm kind of on an

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old Indian path. This is kind of an extra it's

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an Indian path. It was crazy. It's how the trees

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are bent over and then they kind of grow up,

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and it's kind of an in the old Indian market.

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They're about over well over one hundred and some years old.

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My brother pointed out most of them. I just saw too,

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and he just looked right up. Anyways, going back to that,

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so there's a water there's a water access on my

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on my land there. I just kind of scanned the

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woods a little and just it took a little break

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from building the privy, and I saw a black image

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kind of behind some dead fall, and I looked closely

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at it. I wasn't sure. It looked like it looked

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like a stump, a black stump with strange bark on it.

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And I just thought, well, maybe that's just disease, maybe

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it's just rotting. Didn't think anything of it after that

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until and I was thinking, wait a minute later on,

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I kind of got on some videos this, you know,

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because now my interest is peaked. And after you know,

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I just carried on with that and didn't think anything

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of it and then went back. I would say it

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was about June of last year, June or July, and

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I thought as I was building, I was building an

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outdoor shower at this point, and I took a little

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stop and I thought, wow, you know, maybe I should

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go over and take a look at that black stump,

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just to make sure, you know, because and I looked

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over in that area, and that black stump had moved

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on the other side of the dead fall. That's when

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I and it was still kind of behind some brush,

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but not much of a brush. And I thought that

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thing moved, and I looked closer at it, and I

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kept looking closer at it, and when I saw an

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eyeball and I saw two eyes looking this is the

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process how it happened. I saw that I saw it

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would be the left eye, and then I saw the

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right eye, and they were as clear as day and

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I and then I saw the reflection off a cheek

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and it was black. It was a black skin. And

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then it started all coming together and it looked like

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a stump. The it it looked. It looked young. I

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don't know if it was a female or a male,

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but it was kind of sitting on its haunches a

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little bit on its heels, just watching me. That's what

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it was doing. It was watching me build. And I

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took a good look at this thing. And I always

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told these guys before this happened, I said, yeah, if

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I see a big foot, i'll dis wave at it,

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you know. Well, I looked, and I made sure I

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was made sure what I was looking at before I

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moved away, not looking at it, and sure it was incredible.

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And I reached down for my phone in my pocket

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really fast to get a picture, and lo and behold,

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my phone isn't there. It's on the table about, you know,

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twenty thirty feet away. And I thought, okay, this thing,

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by the time I move, it's going to get up

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and move. Well, I grabbed my phone and I figured

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this out out my whole actions. I think I was

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in shock because of my following actions, and I grabbed

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the phone and I zoomed to where this black image

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was and I just started hitting the button as fast

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as I could. And that was this kind of hoped

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some that would come out out of that, and what

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I should have done is not zoom and just started

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taking pictures. Now that I see all the pictures, and

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I just thought and I was and it was towards

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the end of the day where I was needed to

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get pack everything up and head home because I had

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so much time and had to get going. Well, I

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just thought, Okay, I'm going to take pictures of this

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thing and I'm going to continue on and I'm not

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going to scare it because I think I figured out

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how to draw it in so I didn't want to

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provoke it or let it know that I saw it.

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So after that, I kind of just packed up my

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things and I left and and then I I kind

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of started watching more videos, going over more videos, and

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it was like, wait a minute, you can honestly see

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you know, you can tell who's actually seen one and

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who hasn't, you know, and you can and it's just

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and they end their videos and then you see some

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of the videos where it's obvious it's fake. And then

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there's something that's obvious that this is something. Unfortunately my

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photos that it's kind of the closest one I got,

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The clearest one I got is you can it's kind

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of a slightly blurry image where you can see the

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cheekbone and you can see the eye socket and one eye,

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but it's not clear. So I can't even I don't.

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I won't even post that. But I figured out how

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I drew it in because it's it happened twice and

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when I was using it, I was using an impact

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branch or an impact drill where it would make a

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weird click sound at the end of the drill, and

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I did hundreds of those, and I think that's why

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I came in to basically sit back and watch me

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build this these things, and so so I can't wait

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to get back there this year and try it out

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and see, you know, see if I can draw them

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back out and this time get a better picture. It's

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not much of a story, but that's my.

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Story, and I think that's an incredible account. My goodness.

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I do definitely have some questions for you.

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Yeah, shoot them please.

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So you're you're looking at it it's sitting on its haunches.

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It looks like a black stump at first. How tall

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would you say that black stump type?

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Well, it's it's hard for me to to determine how

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tall it was because it was the distance. The distance

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I would say was probably fifty meters, and I would say,

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I'm just this is just a guess. I would say

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if it was sitting on its haunches, I'd say it

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was probably about six foot tall from sitting on its haunches,

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but I'm not absolutely positive. I got to go out

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to that tree and market, and because there's it was

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by some trees, I could market and see about where

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it was sitting on its haunches.

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Okay, gotcha. Fifty meters is about the length of I

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think two tennis courts.

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Yeah, yeah, it was. It wasn't It wasn't very far

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away at all, you know, And that's it was. Honestly,

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it was about four to fifty meters away from me.

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And and you know, like I said, I think I

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was in shock because I could havesh I should have

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just sat there and just started taking pictures of it

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because the eyes were clear as day. Yeah, that's it

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was amazing I've never ever have thought that I would

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be one of them people that saw bigfoot in my

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entire life. So anyways, yeah, that's kind of that's kind

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of my you know, I've just been doing research and

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now I've been you know, looking for organizations to go

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to to find, you know, speak to other people and

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see what they've found. And I've you know, kind of

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burnt out on the videos. I just want to speak

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to some humans, but actually who actually have seen this

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and experienced this with me, because I feel alone. You know,

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there's nobody really to talk to except for my wife.

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And she doesn't think I'm crazy at all, so.

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Which that's a plus.

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I I thanked her for not I thanked her for

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not you know, not berating me. Yeah, but yeah, so

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she's very supportive. And I told her, I says, if

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you watch, I'll try to draw it in. I warned her, says,

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if you see it, please don't run and don't scream,

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don't do anything.

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How long do you think, time wise, you were able

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to see it there in front of you.

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If I was able to, I probably could have sat there.

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If I had time, I could have sat there the

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whole time and waited for it to get up and

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walk away. I mean, it was Cleena's day. I like

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I said, I didn't want to spook it and not

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come back. So that was kind of my thinking. But

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there was so many things going through my head when

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that happened, you know, it was I wasn't sure how

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to make a clear decision if I should just make

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sure if I got proof of this. But my thought,

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my thought process was, well, once I take pictures of

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this and then look at the pictures, then I could

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absolutely be absolutely positive that this is not I'm not crazy, right.

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Oh yeah, Well, and the pictures so you know, because

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it kind of you can kind of see when I

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walked away, it turned its head, so I got a

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I got a photo of it on the kind of

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a side, just a little bit of an angle of

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the face, so I zoomed in too closely and pretty

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much gotcha. Yeah.

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So the actual the actual amount of time that you

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did that you were able to have eyes on, would

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you say it was like a minute less than a minute?

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Oh? What I actually had eyes on was a broad

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about maybe a minute and a half two minutes wow.

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Because I just had to convince myself that I was

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seeing what I was seeing, because make sure I make

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sure I was convinced, make sure I was convinced of

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what I was seeing. Yeah, and I was absolutely positive

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of what I saw, but I needed photos to confirm

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this and be able to show someone, look, I'm not crazy,

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this is what I saw. Well, it's again blurry photos.

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So I don't speak to anybody really about it. I

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told a couple of family members, but that's about it,

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and my wife. And again, I guess there's a Bigfoot

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Society meeting or something like that in October and something

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in Wisconsin. That's where I'll be. I'll be heading there.

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Oh cool, Yeah, it's got to be some kind of

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Bigfoot conference. I would I would imagine up there. That's

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pretty cool. I have to look into that. Do you

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remember any details about the eyes themselves?

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The eyes? Yes, Oh yeah, jeez, it's gonna it's gonna

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sound kind of weird. But the eyes. You can see

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all the way the white all the way around the eyes.

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Because when I was looking at it, it was looking

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at me like it was surprised that I noticed it.

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That was the expression on its face. Does that make

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any sense?

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Yeah? So when you so you could tell it was surprised.

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How could you tell it was surprised by the eyes.

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Itself, because the eyes were so wide, they were wide open.

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I could see white all the way around.

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Interesting.

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Yeah, And then and the nose. The nose was kind

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of a how would you say, it was like a

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regular nose, but it was flat. It wasn't an eight nose.

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It was a human nose, but flatter, if that makes

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any sense. The skin was black. I could see the

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sun reflect off its cheekbone. That's how I was able

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to put it all together. Once I had the eyes,

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and then I hit the cheekbone, and you can you

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can see the fore I saw the forehead. There wasn't

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any reflection on the forehead, but it was you can

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see there was a you know, no skin on the forehead.

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The mouth was kind of I didn't really get a

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glad or glimpse at the mouth because I was so

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phyxiated on the eyes because I mean, when something's looking

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back at you like that, it's okay, what are you

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gonna do? You know? You know? So, yeah, that's that's

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that's about what I have. You know, Like I said,

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it was sitting on its hatches, arms were kind of

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on its knees and it was it looked like a

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big black stump with weird bark on it. And it

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was lumpy. That was the other one that was lumpy.

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That was the first time I noticed it was lumpy.

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I'm like, well, that's some weird that's a weird looking

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tree and bark because it's kind of lumpy and it

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had weird black bark on it. And then again the

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last time it was lumpy, black bark with eyeballs. Wow. Yeah, yeah.

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The eyes did they have a certain color to them?

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You know, you guys, I see these old red eyes

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or no, it was just regular eyes. This this this

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was an ape. This was a forest ape the best

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way I can describe it. I mean, you would have

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to be that big to be able to take on

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the wilderness, you know, bears and moose and all that.

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But no, there was no red eyes. There was no

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green eyes. It was just I couldn't tell you the

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color of the eyes. I know they were black, but

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if I got closer you could probably see, you know,

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I'm guessed they were probably brown. I don't know, gotcha.

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Did you notice if they were if the one eye

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was far away from the other one, or were they

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close in proximity.

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They weren't far away, you know, you know, they were

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kind of like a normal face. They weren't very far apart.

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They were just kind of a normal looking, you know,

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normal they were putting in the right place. It wasn't

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oddly together, oddly separated. It was just a normal face.

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But it was. It was not I guess it was.

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It wasn't a human face because it obviously couldn't have

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been a human face, but it was kind of a

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human face. That makes sense, No.

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It absolutely does. You know, based on other things that

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I've heard over the years, were there any details about

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the face that really made it jump out that, Okay,

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this is an ape like face that I'm looking at

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right now that.

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Really jumped out? Nothing? Uh, I don't know how. No,

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it was no, not nothing that jumps out. It was.

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It was just a black face. You know. It wasn't harry.

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It wasn't a hairy face, but it was kind of

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hairy around the mouth area and but not really you know,

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it was kind of a beard, but it was a

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big beard. And the only place where there wasn't hair

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was on the cheekbones and on the forehead and on

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the nose. Okay, I've seen I've seen drawings and it

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was like, you know, which number one to one through

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twenty or whatever. And one I saw was number sixteen

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and it had round but it had rounder eyes. And

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I don't know. It's if you've done any research. I didn't,

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you know, kind of catch it here and there online. Okay,

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I've done so much surfing. It's crazy. Oh I bet.

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I mean it seems that after you have an experience

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like this, you either jump in head first or years.

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I don't want anything to do with this ever again.

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Yeah, yep, And I was. I was, you know, the

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first two times I was in denial completely not not completely,

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but I'm still curious. And then the third time, I'm

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absolutely positive. I'm I'm dumbfound at that you know that

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this isn't unknown species after doing after doing all the

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surfing on net, I'm not the only one. There's other

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people that have seen these things do so I don't

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really feel totally alone about it, but still I need

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I need somebody to talk to about it. Absolutely.

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Did you have any electronics on you the first time

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when you went out there?

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Electronics on me? Well, just my phone. There's there's no

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internet service out there. There's no phone service. It's literally

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in the middle of nowhere, gotcha.

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And the phone was turned on.

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Yeah, the phone was turned on, but it was in

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my camper the first time. I well, the first time

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I saw something, so I didn't even bother taking a picture.

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But this time it was on the workbench where I was,

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you know, putting things together, and I didn't have it

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in my pocket.

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That's true, So maybe I just want to double check.

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So the first time that you saw the stump slash,

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well bigfoot, that phone was not on.

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Your person, correct, No, No, it wasn't that.

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Was there anything else on your person that would have

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been electronic?

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No, absolutely nothing interesting. I had a drill and a

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battery operated drill.

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That's it, Okay, it is. Are there any other things

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that you've noticed on the property that would tell you

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evidence that you might have something else on this property

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with you besides the vision that you had?

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Well, yeah, it was when I first looked at this

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piece of land. There was an old hard side trailer

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in there, and it was in the license plate. Last

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time anybody was there was nineteen eighty nine, and I

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didn't think anything about it until after I saw. What

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I saw is that there was a tree that was

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next to it. The trailer was like halfway. I mean,

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the tree was like halfway halfway in the trailer, and

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it looks like that tree fell on that trailer square on.

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So so the trailer was on its left side or

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the tree was on its left side, and somehow this

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tree fell on this trailer and it had to have

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moved in order for that tree to land like that,

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it had to have been directly behind the trailer, and

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it wasn't. It was on the left hand side of

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the trailer. And I didn't think anything of it, but

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I get it now. I think somebody had a tree

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fell on that trailer for who knows what reason and

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left never came back. But like I said, the tree

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way it fell, it was impossible for it to land

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the way it landed, if that makes anything any But

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that's to look back at that that wasn't you know?

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It was kind of a weird coinkydink the way the

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tree fell on this thing, because it would literally have

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to how would you say, move back and over five

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feet to land on this tree or land on the

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trailer right, So who knows. But again I look I

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put it all together, and I heard that sound and

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it was a roar. It was a definite roar, but

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it sounded like it was like disappointed somebody's there or

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something of the sort. So, and that was super close.

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That was that scared me. That scared me. And that's

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when I realized I didn't even have a butter knife

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to defend myself to leave any DNA. So I stayed up.

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I stayed up the rest of the night waiting for

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the because the store was about an hour away and

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I was and it opened at seven, so I waited

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until six o'clock in the morning. This was about I

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don't know, two three o'clock in the morning when it happened,

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and I ran to the store and I got myself

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a machete just in case.

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Sure, yeah, absolutely, are there any Are there any neighbors

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close to the property, And if yes, have you talked

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to them? Been like, hey, you having any weird stuff

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happened around here?

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I do have a neighbor, and I haven't had the

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opportunity to speak to her. I see her, she's driving.

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She drives whenever I'm there, she's driving some white truck

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driving by. So but this year I will go up

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to her house and knock on the door. She is

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a permanent residence there, and it would be kind of

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a rough life up there because it's pretty deep in

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the middle of nowhere. But I will go to speak

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with her. I'm not sure if I'm going to bring

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up the big foot thing right away, you know, I

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just want to introduce myself to her first and maybe

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maybe ask her if she's heard anything strange.

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Yeah, exactly, sounds like it sounds like a good idea.

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You mentioned something really interesting that you experienced after this, uh,

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this visual that you had, and you you started to

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realize that you can tell a difference between people that

461
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say that they've seen it and really haven't and people

462
00:26:23.759 --> 00:26:26.880
that have really really seen it and they definitely have.

463
00:26:27.039 --> 00:26:29.480
Can you can you explain what that means?

464
00:26:30.960 --> 00:26:34.559
Yeah, I'll try to do the best I can with that.

465
00:26:36.920 --> 00:26:40.319
It's it's a tone of voice. It's an excitement tone

466
00:26:40.440 --> 00:26:45.680
in the voice when they've when you actually have seen it.

467
00:26:46.119 --> 00:26:48.200
That's kind of it's hard to describe it, you can.

468
00:26:48.240 --> 00:26:49.519
You know, you get on the videos and you hear

469
00:26:49.519 --> 00:26:53.400
people talk and it's like the people get too in depth,

470
00:26:54.440 --> 00:26:57.839
really too highly detailed, where they're really trying to push

471
00:26:58.680 --> 00:27:00.759
that they've actually seen it, and you have people that

472
00:27:00.839 --> 00:27:03.960
are kind of, you know, kind of I would you

473
00:27:04.000 --> 00:27:08.480
say a little more excited, a little more straightforward to

474
00:27:08.559 --> 00:27:14.480
the story and and how I can pick it out

475
00:27:14.880 --> 00:27:20.640
kind of had that job in the service also, yeah,

476
00:27:20.720 --> 00:27:23.880
again again, so sometimes people get way too detailed. They

477
00:27:23.920 --> 00:27:26.079
start going into their entire life story and it's like,

478
00:27:26.160 --> 00:27:28.079
we really don't want to hear this. I just want

479
00:27:28.079 --> 00:27:31.559
to hear what happened, you know. That's what I'm thinking

480
00:27:31.640 --> 00:27:32.599
of the videos.

481
00:27:32.920 --> 00:27:35.400
I get it, and that's actually something I picked up

482
00:27:35.480 --> 00:27:38.319
something similar to that when I first went out to

483
00:27:38.359 --> 00:27:41.160
Oregon and was able to talk to a lot of

484
00:27:41.200 --> 00:27:44.039
people face to face. You're like, Okay, now I get it.

485
00:27:44.200 --> 00:27:48.440
Like yeah, absolutely, my goodness.

486
00:27:48.480 --> 00:27:49.880
So so you know what I'm you know what I'm

487
00:27:49.880 --> 00:27:50.799
talking I know what.

488
00:27:50.720 --> 00:27:53.519
You're talking about hundred percent. Yeah, yes, I sure do.

489
00:27:54.119 --> 00:27:58.240
So you are You're at the point where would you say,

490
00:27:58.319 --> 00:28:01.400
later this year twenty twenty, you're going to start building

491
00:28:01.400 --> 00:28:02.960
more on this property.

492
00:28:04.000 --> 00:28:06.240
Well, this year I am going to I gotta I

493
00:28:06.319 --> 00:28:08.680
have a I've got a lot of trees that are

494
00:28:08.880 --> 00:28:11.480
felling and I gotta chop them up. And all that

495
00:28:11.920 --> 00:28:13.920
this year, and I'll put up a gate, just a

496
00:28:13.960 --> 00:28:16.920
couple of little odds and ends this year. But yeah,

497
00:28:16.920 --> 00:28:18.440
as soon as the snow melts, because I think right

498
00:28:18.480 --> 00:28:21.200
now we got about four feet where the property is

499
00:28:21.200 --> 00:28:24.599
four or five feet and there's more coming, so it'll

500
00:28:24.599 --> 00:28:26.359
be next thaw, I'll be able to get out there,

501
00:28:26.400 --> 00:28:28.519
and I mean i'll do, you know, do some of

502
00:28:28.559 --> 00:28:32.400
my work, but I'll definitely sit down and put some

503
00:28:32.480 --> 00:28:34.640
time on the side to try to call them in

504
00:28:35.160 --> 00:28:39.599
see if I can. It's crazy, I mean, it sounds

505
00:28:39.920 --> 00:28:42.200
yeah with the drill. I mean people I saw people

506
00:28:42.279 --> 00:28:45.480
using a baseball bat on a tree or hooting and

507
00:28:45.519 --> 00:28:47.839
hollering or something like that. I don't know if they work,

508
00:28:47.920 --> 00:28:50.480
I don't know, but I know for a fact that

509
00:28:50.559 --> 00:28:52.839
this drill, well not for a fact that I know

510
00:28:52.920 --> 00:28:55.079
this drill could be one of the things that have

511
00:28:55.200 --> 00:28:57.599
drawn it in. I mean, I can't imagine why anything

512
00:28:57.599 --> 00:28:59.920
else would come in and sit there and watch, you know,

513
00:29:00.559 --> 00:29:05.279
be entertained with the drill because it makes a weird

514
00:29:05.359 --> 00:29:08.519
sound when every time you have you know, you screw up,

515
00:29:09.319 --> 00:29:09.960
put a screw in.

516
00:29:10.759 --> 00:29:13.759
It's it's such a strange thing, but it is a

517
00:29:13.799 --> 00:29:17.799
pattern that I've I've seen in other ways where you know,

518
00:29:17.839 --> 00:29:20.279
there was an individual on the Olympic Peninsula that was

519
00:29:20.319 --> 00:29:23.720
able to bring them in with uh with a bagpipe.

520
00:29:24.039 --> 00:29:27.400
And it also sometimes maybe it's just a sound that

521
00:29:27.440 --> 00:29:30.079
they're not used to and so they're extremely curious about it.

522
00:29:31.359 --> 00:29:34.519
Who knows, right, But have you heard that drill sound

523
00:29:35.000 --> 00:29:38.160
in the woods around your property outside of you using

524
00:29:38.200 --> 00:29:42.960
the drill? No, okay, gotcha. It'd be interesting if you

525
00:29:43.000 --> 00:29:45.480
ever start to hear that. Sometimes that will happen like

526
00:29:45.519 --> 00:29:49.960
a weird mimicry type deal. Really, Oh yeah, yeah, that

527
00:29:50.480 --> 00:29:54.119
I've had that reported. Have you ever experienced anything on

528
00:29:54.160 --> 00:29:58.599
the property that is weird but you're like, it's definitely

529
00:29:58.599 --> 00:30:01.599
not bigfoot related, but it's still just doesn't make sense.

530
00:30:04.880 --> 00:30:07.759
Nothing that I can think of right now. Cool, nothing

531
00:30:07.839 --> 00:30:10.559
like that, however, I did, you know, not on the property,

532
00:30:10.559 --> 00:30:13.160
but I took a little hike. I won't go in

533
00:30:13.200 --> 00:30:15.119
the woods anymore where I'm at without a without a

534
00:30:15.160 --> 00:30:18.160
firearm anymore. But I took a little walk up to

535
00:30:18.160 --> 00:30:23.160
the north at North and there was some trees falling over,

536
00:30:23.920 --> 00:30:27.880
and I kind of watching some videos and the squatchers

537
00:30:27.920 --> 00:30:31.400
were pointing out how their crisscrossed and the branches, and

538
00:30:31.519 --> 00:30:34.720
I noticed that before I even saw the videos, and

539
00:30:34.799 --> 00:30:36.759
I just thought, Wow, how did those trees end up

540
00:30:36.839 --> 00:30:39.279
like that? That's kind of weird, how wind blows them

541
00:30:39.279 --> 00:30:43.640
over and how they glinky inkly interlock each other. And

542
00:30:43.680 --> 00:30:47.880
then I started watching these videos and went, oh, this

543
00:30:48.000 --> 00:30:48.880
kind of makes sense.

544
00:30:48.960 --> 00:30:57.799
Now, Well, you have an interesting situation going on your property,

545
00:30:57.839 --> 00:31:02.119
for sure, Jack, It'll be interesting to see what happens.

546
00:31:02.640 --> 00:31:05.799
Do you how are you how are you viewing things there?

547
00:31:05.839 --> 00:31:07.880
Are you just trying to figure out how to live

548
00:31:07.960 --> 00:31:11.240
with whatever is there? Or or how are you viewing

549
00:31:11.279 --> 00:31:11.759
this now?

550
00:31:14.039 --> 00:31:17.240
Oh? I'm just gonna I'm just gonna live with it.

551
00:31:17.359 --> 00:31:19.680
I I hope he shows up or he or she

552
00:31:19.880 --> 00:31:23.880
or whatever it is shows up, and you know, I'll

553
00:31:23.680 --> 00:31:26.920
I don't you know, I don't kill anything. I won't

554
00:31:26.920 --> 00:31:29.720
shoot anything anymore. I won't do any of that anymore.

555
00:31:30.119 --> 00:31:32.720
I just want to live together within peace, you know,

556
00:31:33.920 --> 00:31:37.279
and whatever it is can come around and look and

557
00:31:37.319 --> 00:31:39.799
see and do whatever. Just don't break anything or you know.

558
00:31:41.799 --> 00:31:45.200
That's kind of my thought about this whole situation. I

559
00:31:45.319 --> 00:31:48.039
want to you know, live and let live, and I

560
00:31:48.079 --> 00:31:50.880
don't want people to come into the area and start

561
00:31:50.920 --> 00:31:54.160
disturbing the area looking for you know, Bigfoot or Sasquatch

562
00:31:54.279 --> 00:31:56.519
or whatever they want to call it, because I just,

563
00:31:56.599 --> 00:31:59.200
you know, I think they should live in peace, and honestly,

564
00:31:59.240 --> 00:32:02.119
I I think there needs to be some sort of

565
00:32:02.119 --> 00:32:10.119
protection at something something. Yeah, trust me, I was not

566
00:32:10.200 --> 00:32:14.680
a believer at all at all, and I am now.

567
00:32:15.200 --> 00:32:20.759
I'm not a believer. I'm a witness and it's kind

568
00:32:20.759 --> 00:32:24.119
of I don't know if it's a blessing or a curse, you.

569
00:32:24.079 --> 00:32:27.640
Know, I think that's a great way to put it,

570
00:32:27.759 --> 00:32:32.839
as it can be looked at that both ways. But Jack,

571
00:32:32.960 --> 00:32:35.519
thank you so much for coming on the show today.

572
00:32:35.559 --> 00:32:37.119
I want to make sure that you were able to

573
00:32:37.160 --> 00:32:40.960
share everything that you're wanting to share about your experience.

574
00:32:42.319 --> 00:32:45.759
Yes, and I will let you know if I run

575
00:32:45.799 --> 00:32:49.079
into any other issues. You know, this year or this summer.

576
00:32:50.640 --> 00:32:53.640
Have you ever heard all the accounts of bigfoot activity

577
00:32:53.720 --> 00:32:56.920
around Oakridge, Oregon and you think to yourself, Man, I

578
00:32:56.960 --> 00:32:59.759
would love to get out in those woods and experience

579
00:32:59.799 --> 00:33:05.200
it myself. Well guess what this year you can. If

580
00:33:05.200 --> 00:33:09.079
this is interesting to you, stay tuned because it's pretty cool.

581
00:33:09.400 --> 00:33:13.880
Sasquatch Summer Fest is coming up July tenth through the eleventh,

582
00:33:14.160 --> 00:33:17.759
twenty twenty six. It's gonna be even better than the

583
00:33:17.799 --> 00:33:21.720
previous year's reason number one, I'll be one of the speakers.

584
00:33:22.240 --> 00:33:27.799
It's gonna be wild. I'll probably I'll say this. There

585
00:33:27.839 --> 00:33:31.759
may be stuff you haven't heard anywhere else, because let's

586
00:33:31.839 --> 00:33:36.400
just say sometimes it's well, you just got to be there.

587
00:33:36.759 --> 00:33:39.160
We'll leave it that more about looking for Bigfoot in

588
00:33:39.200 --> 00:33:42.279
the Oakridge Woods. Now check this out. You may know

589
00:33:43.079 --> 00:33:48.319
Jason Kenzie from his documentary series Searching for Sasquatch. Well,

590
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this year you can not only go to the festival,

591
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but you can also sign up for a track deep

592
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in the wild forest outside of Oakridge with Jason Kenzie

593
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to the Bigfoot Spots to look for Bigfoot. There's only

594
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eight spots to sign up for this, and yes, this

595
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will also be filmed for the next chapter in his

596
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documentary series, which is Searching for Sasquatch. This is a

597
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once in a lifetime deal. It's just trust it's going

598
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to be a wild, wild experience. To get a ticket,

599
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head on over to Sasquatch Summerfest dot com and listeners

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can use the code b sp like Bigfoot Society podcast

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603
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604
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can get a little a little help with the costs there.

605
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Appreciate that, Priscilla. I hope to see you at the

606
00:34:56.960 --> 00:35:01.039
booth in Oakridge this year. We can tell about your encounter.

607
00:35:01.280 --> 00:35:03.639
Was able to talk to so many people last year

608
00:35:03.760 --> 00:35:07.920
and the year before. It is an incredible time. You're

609
00:35:07.920 --> 00:35:09.679
not going to want to miss it, and I'll see

610
00:35:09.679 --> 00:35:14.039
you there. Before we wrap this episode, I want to

611
00:35:14.039 --> 00:35:17.320
say something directly to a very specific group of listeners.

612
00:35:17.559 --> 00:35:21.280
If you're in the military, any branch or forces, and

613
00:35:21.320 --> 00:35:24.239
if you've seen something that no one can explain, or

614
00:35:24.280 --> 00:35:27.360
if you're a National park ranger or forestry worker who's

615
00:35:27.400 --> 00:35:30.239
been told to stay quiet, or if you're a pilot

616
00:35:30.280 --> 00:35:33.800
who's seen something strange down on the ground, or if

617
00:35:33.840 --> 00:35:37.400
you're with the FBI a federal agency, or working intelligence

618
00:35:37.599 --> 00:35:40.639
and you've stumbled upon something you're not allowed to talk about.

619
00:35:40.920 --> 00:35:43.840
And if you're a firefighter, paramedic, or search and rescue

620
00:35:43.840 --> 00:35:47.760
responder who's heard screams or found tracks that didn't make sense,

621
00:35:48.280 --> 00:35:52.119
if you're in the logging industry, on a remote oil field,

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or a trucker with government contracts, and you've had something

623
00:35:55.360 --> 00:35:58.800
happen that you've never told a soul. And if you're

624
00:35:58.800 --> 00:36:02.280
a biologist, a while life specialist, or a field researcher

625
00:36:02.440 --> 00:36:06.079
under contract who has found evidence you're not allowed to report.

626
00:36:06.599 --> 00:36:09.079
If you're a pastor, a missionary, or someone on a

627
00:36:09.119 --> 00:36:12.599
spiritual retreat and you saw something that shook your faith,

628
00:36:13.280 --> 00:36:16.400
or if you work in the shadows CIA, NSA or

629
00:36:16.440 --> 00:36:19.800
anything with clearance, and you've seen what the public hasn't,

630
00:36:21.159 --> 00:36:24.639
then I want to talk to you, even if it's anonymous.

631
00:36:26.400 --> 00:36:29.920
You can reach me at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com.

632
00:36:30.360 --> 00:36:32.800
The world needs to hear what you've been forced to

633
00:36:32.840 --> 00:36:38.760
carry alone, and you're not alone. You've got the story,

634
00:36:39.159 --> 00:36:43.000
We've got the mic. See you in the woods. Thank

635
00:36:43.000 --> 00:36:45.880
you for listening to this episode of the Bigfoot Society podcast.

636
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637
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