Bigfoot Nests and Devil's Creek with Shane Corson (Bigfoot Society Classic)

0:00 Either you're listening to the Big Fust Society podcast and I'm Jeremiah Byron. Every week I talk to individuals who have experienced sasquats in some way or another, so you won't want to miss an episode. Make sure you're subscribed on the platform that you're listening to, and share this episode where the friend does not cost a thing, and it helps the show continue to grow. If you'd like to hear Bigfoot Society episodes early an ad free, you can do so by becoming a Patreon supporter or a YouTube channel member. Links to those are in the show notes and Bigfoot Society. I've taken far too much of your time so far, so let's get on with the show. Morning. You're listening to an episode of Bigfoot Society recorded more than three years ago. Interviewing skills in audio quality have improved since then. Please don't judge the podcast on this one episode. We'll see you next week. All right, Well, welcome back to another episode of the big Foot Society podcast, and we have the privilege this time of talking with mister Shane Coursen. Shane is involved with all sorts of cool stuff Bigfoot and I'll have them talk about that in a minute. But the way that I picture is doing research into Shane. It's kind of like if you have the Marvel Avenger movies and you know Agent Colson is there at the beginning, and then when you start to look for Agent Colson, he's everywhere. So I mean, you are, you have your

1:32 hands and everything, sir, would you mind going ahead and kind of what's a brief summary of who you are and what you've done in the big foot community over the last few years. I guess we'll start there. Okay, Well, I don't claim to have done anything, but I'll tell you I was born and raised in Scotland, had an interesting cryptids as a young in it was always fascinated with of course in Scotland and your fascinated with the lock this monster and Yeddi and other cryptids that are you know, around the world. Always fascinated with the subject of sasquatch. Moved over to the States in ninety three, still fascinated with the sasquatch phenomena. I really did not start getting into sasquatch research, or what I thought was sasquatch research, until about the ninety seven and that's kind of when I got my wheels and was able to travel doing research in southern California where we moved to around San Bernina Mountain, Julian area, and then definitely Yosemite was on my radar for a number of years. Yosemite was fascinating to me. Talked to a lot of great individuals individual with the head encounters, but I personally never found anything during my years in California. Eventually moved up to Oregon. I got Mary, moved up to Oregon in two thousand and eight, and that's really where I started hitting the ground heavy up an again and had an encounter in twenty eleven that

3:05 solidified the existence of Sasquats for me, okay, and from there I realized that being a one man band, somebody that is going about their business by themselves, was not very productive. I realized that I really wasn't doing research. I was investigating stuff. I read every book out there been online. I really had no context at that point. I talked a few individuals and eventually got involved with the Olympic Project after my encounter and got involved with like Cliff Barrickman and those individuals very cool and that's kind of really jumped my research and joining a group and realizing that there's more to research than what you think.

3:50 And I really wasn't conducting research. Now I'm now up in Washington State, up in you know, Western Washington here where we do a lot of research and I work. You know, I'm one of the core members of the Limit Project now and I work with an amazing and fantastic group of like minded individuals, both from the layman world and the academic world. So that's kind of where I'm at now. I've been working on a lot of projects. I've been around the block, and there's a lot of cool stuff going on now. There's a lot of cool stuff that's happened. So I'm very proud to be working with the individuals that I work with and collaborating with them. And you know, I'm always an optimist. A lot of people get frustrated in this field. Not me. I see all sorts of opportunities.

4:35 Back right before this interview here, I just got the phone with somebody that's working on an amazing project, very scientific project, and so always things going on behind the scenes. I'm sure my listeners listen to Bigfoot and Beyond with Cliff and Bobbo as well. You had a fantastic episode on that, and you've referenced something that I wanted to ask you. If you had been in the them, I would have asked you right there. So you mentioned the Olympic Project, and I believe what you mentioned was that in the coming year you would actually be having primatologists coming to the area. Did I get that right from the episode or maybe did I hear that directly? Are you talking about the nest area? I think so, yeah, Yeah, we've actually already had primatologists. Okay, now, yeah, we've had primatologists come out to this area. We've had bare biologists come out to this area. We've had anthropologists, archaeologists, we've had even zoologists, which was the most recent.

5:42 Two individuals came out from a certain zoo here in the United States, not in Washington, but a certain zoo. I can't mention it, but they came out and we really wanted to get their feedback on, you know, these nests when it comes to known primate behavior. These individuals worked directly with chimpanzees, bonobos. Uh so we're back gorillas. So we really wanted to get their feel on on these nests. Because they're not bairness and they're not they're definitely nests and they're formulated. Doctor Meldon's talked about these nest loads of time, so it's Cliff. They've both been out to the area and helped us collect sample. So yes, we've brought in a lot of academic individuals out there because we're not you know, I'm not a scientist. I'm not an academic individual. I'm I'm an explorer. I find stuff, I collect stuff, and you know, sometimes I'll visually analyze stuff, but I have my limits and I recognize those, and so you got to bring in to people with the right eye. So yeah, we've done that. Yeah, very cool, very cool. If if so, if listeners do not know the nest we are talking about, of course, so you can fill in details as we go along, of course. But there's so you have access to an area of land where it had not been touched for was it forty years? Yeah? Fifty plus year? Yeah, fifty plus years.

7:00 So like a logging company and there's these nests that were found on there, and I mean they're big enough for I believe it was either you a Cliff said that you could lay down in the nest and it was quite comfortable, and man, it's just it's fascinating. There is one part where it's like you're saying, from one nest you could see the other nests, and I thought that that was very fascinating. Yeah, the the Huckleberry So all these nests, there's twenty two nests bound to date, spread along a ridge line and they're spread out on fingers or saddles or ridges, depending where you're from the country. Everybody calls it something different. But you have a ridge line with a finger or a ridge or a saddle coming down and they're spread out on multiple saddles, fingers, ridges or and whatnot. And they're they're definitely formula. They've been constructed intelligently. They're not some that's been haphazardly put together.

8:03 And by what I what I meant when I said and when I say that you can see from nest and nest, well, that's that's on purpose. The huckerberry branches them in stripped completely of leaves, whether that was a food source or on purpose to see from nest and nest to nest and in their their very strategically placed these nests. But yeah, you can see every nest and they range in size from you know, about three feet to about nine feet in size and circumference, so I mean huge, huge, and we're a foot in depth. I mean just huge law material. That is very, very cool. The question I also thought the other day is so, uh, of course, right now we're in the middle of the COVID nineteen pandemic. How has that affected the work of the Olympic project tremendously.

8:52 Yeah. You know, nobody gets paid to do sasquatch research. We all have day jobs, we have families, and so it's really there's a lot of stuff we can do at home, and fortunately we do have access to you know, when it comes to research, we do have access to timberland. We have gate keys and whatnot, and that's where we conduct a lot of our business. But this whole COVID thing, regardless of would you think of it and how it's affected you, it's affected everybody economically, socially, you name it, and so I can speak for a lot of enthusiasts, bigfoot researchers, you name it that it's affected at big time. You can't get into some areas that you used to be able to get into legally. I mean sure, I'm sure people are sneaking out here in Washington. They closed down it's opening up May five, all of the trails and parks and whatnot. But it's affected it tremendously and what it's really done for the Aliment project. Recently, kind of jumping ahead here, we've come across some newer nests. Finally, after searching for four years, five years now, we came across a new nest. I can't really get into the kills right now, okay, but a partner of mine by the name of Todd Hale, he's a project Mayber. We were out scouting an area that Derek Randalls and I had scouted two weeks prior. While we went back out to this area and came across something physically making a nest. Did not see it, but spooked. It sounded very large song by pedal and oh it was. It was quite the experience. And I won't get into that right now, and

10:26 that's some stuff we're working them. But we did come across a nest in the making or multiple nests in the making, and we came across a lot of other really unique and very cool tidbits to this that it proved a lot of things to us. So we were in the right area, the right time of year, the white circumstances, and we just got really lucky and walked upon something making a new nest. But go back to your question, Well, I have some samples that I've collected, that we've collected as a whole, as a one project that I got. I can't send it anywhere right now, you know, And it sucks because some of these samples, you know, they they go to junk after a while. It's time sensitive sort of stuff. And some you know, you know, we got some hair samples for example. Some of that you can visually analyze, but to do any real work on it. It's, man, it's really been.

11:20 It was just this whole virus is the worst timing, and we talked about that as a group, the worst timing ever. Unfortunate. But upwards and onwards, you keep plugging away and we'll see if we anything comes from this. No promises, no guarantees, but exciting tells me we're we're doing something right. Regardless, you can say, regardless of what's making these nests, we came across whatever was making it fresh, and that's that's awesome. That that is really exciting, and maybe you can start to see a pattern like Okay, it's this time of year. You know, who knows the data that you'll get from this like this, that is super exciting. And that's you said, that's very recent that that happened. Yeah, this happened back in February. So, I mean the reason and cool, The real key there is that we hypothesize originally that the older nest that we had we were led to. We didn't discover the old old nest. They were discovered originally by a timber cruiser in a really remote area doing his job. These areas aren't places you go hiking in, you go hunting in, exploring in their off trail. They're hard to get to there, it's a nightmare. And he came across them. Well, we started to mimic what he was doing for years and possibly came across some very very old nest. So ran we're kind of on the right truck. Maybe we don't know. And then we come across this and that was in the month of February. Again with the same elements. You got the salmon come up these creeks, you got a lot of things going for you. So you're right, it does add value to that and it's exciting tells us we're on the right track. Oh man,

12:52 that is that is very cool. You've also been involved with, yeah, the Devil's Creek project, and that was a few years ago where that where there was a lot of that, you know, those stories going around and you know what was going on. Would you be able to kind of you know, there's a chance there are some listeners that you know, when I say Devil's Creek, they might not know what I'm talking about, But would you be able to maybe give the summary of that scenario. And then you'd mentioned before our calls started that you actually have some some new things that you can share. Some things you can't because it's you know, special situation.

13:39 But yeah, if you go ahead with that, that'd be awesome. Yeah, absolutely so. Several years ago, Derek Randalls was contacted by an individual by the name of Donna. Her husband's name is Greg, up here in western Washington on the east side of the Olympics, and they had a lot of suspicious activity going on on their property. Well, Donna's husband Reg he works all around he works all around the country, he was rarely home, and Donna had all the stuff, weird stuff happening, noises, stuff happening on the property. And her husband, Greg, when he was home with witnessed some of this. The majority seemed to happen when she was home, but he got to witness a lot of unique things, especially audio things they found on their property. And so they got ahold of Derek Randalls of the Olympic Project, and he came out, and Derek's not an audio guy, and so he got them in touch with David Ellis of the Olympic Project, who is like the audio guru. He looks at audio visually on a sonic visualizer program and so he's not just listening because your ear replay tricks on you. But if you can visually analyze something and listen to it, it really adds value. And you can compare those recorded sounds to the mcaulay Library of Sounds, for example, so you have a context and a baseline to compare unknown sounds, at least unknown to you. And so David and Donna really started place, you know, placing audio recorders on the property. Well, I mean the backtrack a little bit. Donna had a sighting near her

15:09 property, you know, when they were driving up the road to their property, just down the road in what it's been coined Devil's Creek. And let me clarify something. There is no Devil's Creek. You know, there's no Devil's Creek. It was a name made up by a third party that got involved. And you know, at first, a lot of us really didn't like to name Devil's Creek because there are Devil's Creeks around the country. We'll be back with more big Foot Society after these words from our sponsors. This was a pseudo name, just a made up name. We stuck with it mainly because there was a lot of individuals trying to find this area and we wanted to throw them off. They you know, they were trying to there's a lot of people out there. Yeah, they find spots. So we stuck with Devil's Creek. Not the greatest name and a little bit disingenuous, but there was a reason behind that. Now, don't get me wrong, there's a lot that creek plays a huge role in this whole experience, this phenomena. And so after David Elle started recording stuff, Donna, you know, previously had her sighting. I started getting involved in going up there placing audio and I spent quite a few nights out there in the property, had some my own experiences and no sightings, and I do have flear equipment.

16:33 I tried very thick, hilly area, and it wasn't like every night, it was every once in a while. But this one on for several years and I did get the chance. Donna called me up one day and said, hey, basically, backpack a little bit more. Don and Greg actually moved out of that house, planning on renting it or possibly selling it. They got another house, well not nearby, but you know, about hours away from this place. They got another house, so they're paying two mortgages, and they wanted to do something with this property, but they knew that it was important for research, and so they weren't ready to give it up. I mean, God bless him, because we did record a lot of neat stuff on the property, experienced a lot of neat stuff. And as as they were living on this separate property, they were trying to fix up this house and they hired a contractor, a contracting business to come up and fix one of their like a kind of a guesthouse slash garage and lo and behold this guy. This one of the contract tractors, had a sighting possibly two sidings in the area, and he knew nothing about the big foot phenomenon going on in the property. He knew nothing about it. I interned the best part. That's the best part where he's like, that's a little weird that all what's gone. That's awes exactly exactly. You know. We talked about this on MONSTRAI Tradio, my podcast, but oka being is that it was just it was phenomenal, and you know, and going through this area

18:04 over the years and studying this area, some of the elderly neighbors that live close by. One of the women who has an apple orchard in this area, she knew there was sasquat. She straight up told Donna one day, without Donna really you know, insinuating anything. Yeah, it's sad squats it. It's up in this area. So there's a lot of collaboration, there, a lot of ideas there where other people are aware the other people have seen something and there's no it's not that they're having a discussion on sasquatch. It just pops up and then historically in this area there's multiple reports on one project gets taken in personally, I've had people that are close in the know of this area that have talked about other reports from neighbors and people within a couple of square miles and some of the lakes in this area, there's reports.

18:49 So why why Donna was having this activity on the property, I don't know. You know, she was home alone. Her house was like a lot of really big windows where something from the forest line could watch her. There was apple orchards in the area. A lot of hypothesizing here, but no doubt she had a lot of tremendous amount of activity on this property. Now fast forward, there were some unfortunate events that took place. Unfortunately, Donna and Gregg sold the property and they no longer have access to the property. There's still stuff going on in some adjasent areas that I follow, but it's not an area you can get intoout getting into trouble, and it's private property and all that stuff. So it's a real shame there. But I guess, you know, paying two mortgages and just that Donna did not feel comfortable staying there anymore and they had to leave. So as far as Devil's Creeks concerned, there's not really anything ongoing there now. As far as research, I'm not being in contact with the new inhabitants. They're not aware of any of the stuff that went on there. I'm not sure if they're experiencing anything. That's a story in itself. It's like, did they know what they were getting into buying property? And like if they're just slowly, I don't think it would be slow. I think it would be quick that they would figure out, like there's something going on here. You know, who knows, right, I mean, all bets are off. I don't know.

20:12 I do know that there's still some occasional activity in that drone area. Still get reports from that area. I do still visit some of the adjacent areas, but it's not you know, as far as the property is concerned, I don't get I can't get access to that. And definitely, my personal opinion, they definitely had sasquatch stuff going on, I mean no doubt about it, with the multiple signings from different individuals and the things that occurred with me. I've had rocks thrown and stuff like that, and I couldn't spend enough time there. I really wanted to capture something on a fleer and I spent many nights are by myself edge the property had you know, a lot of experiences. I've never got anything on fleer. The brush is so thick and whatever it was would never get close enough for me to get on flear. So it is what it is. Yeah, man, thanks for sharing that. That's that's a really cool up to add. No idea that that had. Yeah, that's not happening to get shared. Yeah, yeah, Well but I'll tell real quick. I'll tell you Donn and Gregg.

21:12 Sorry to interrupted Donn and Gregor, two fantastic, phenomenal individuals I have to the utmost respect from Donna and David Els did phenomenal audio work on the property. And I know Donna's very thankful for David Ellison and Derek and myself, two stand up individuals that didn't ask for this, just happened, and they were willing to go along and do what they could to a certain extent, and unfortunately things didn't work out with their lives and with the property. But the chance to to get involved with one of these rare occurrencies where you have this consistent activity happening on the property, not necessarily year round, but consistently.

21:53 That's the sort of places you want to be in because I'm not a I'm not, for say, an ambulance chaser. I don't you know those days are asked, I don't you know. Derek Randall's a the Elent Project, but the co founder of the Elment Project talking this years ago, you know heat for years. He's been in research since nineteen eighty five, and he used to go to Idaho, I mean, living in Washington, would go to Idaho at the drop of a hat looking for uh, you know, if there was an account, he drive out there or wherever. And you can get a lot of good information on that. But it's almost you know that the crime's done and defined a place where there's a lot of activity and it's ongoing. That's really not ambulance chasing. You're trying to do a conductive study there and figure out what's going on. So that's that's that's something I think when those occurrences happen, and it's happened a few times in my experience with this research and and some others, that's the places you really want to be m very cool, very cool. I'm gonna throw out a random left field question just to see if anything sticks. Doesn't, we'll go to somewhere else. So you've had all these you know, you're focused on big foot. I'm in uh this the Midwest area. We have a lot of like things flying around, thunderbirds, stuff like that. Have you ever run into any weird stuff? I don't know. Is that a thing where those

23:25 actually will come up in the Pacific Northwest, like large flying cryptids or anything like that, or not really a thing that you you run up against. Well, here's the thing. You know, growing up, I was involved interested in a lot of crypt It's not involved. I was interested in all sorts of cryptics. I'm well burst on a lot of cryptids up here and northwest. I mean, you go to Portland and you know that there's a big sign that says keep Portland's weird down in or it's great. Yeah, and it is weird. The you know, the Pacific Northwest is a weird spot. There's a lot of things that you know, people will claim to see. You know, they have a Cadborosaurus on the coast that apparently it's like a water cryptid because from San Francisco all the way up to Alaska they call Caddie. There's, of course, the the large thunderbirds. There's you know, pterodactyl, tranidon sightings. Apparently you got UFO sightings. I personally never seen any of that stuff. And I spend I mean I live in the woods, and I spend ungall the amount of time in the woods.

24:26 I've never personally come across you know, I've never seen any weird orbs or lights. You know, none of that's a but you do hear stories from credible people that claim to have seen you know, Cadburisaurus or a flying cryptid that's much larger enacting peculiar. You do have people claiming to see lights in the woods or UFOs. I mean Washington State, you know, I think one of the really first big UFO sightings was around mount very near back in ooh, what the sixties, fifties or seventies, I forget flying discs. So it's an where there's a lot of stuff that happens up here, and different cryptids, you know. We know, mainly though my focus and mainly what I come across the sasquatch sightings up here and It's way more prevalent than people will ever guess. You know, for every you know, one siding you hear about or two signs you hear about, there's I mean, I can only imagine how many more signings are out there that you know, from people that are either not willing to talk or just don't have an opportunity to talk about it. Very cool, very cool. You'd mentioned before that you have actually you spent time in the Yosemite area early on. Can you go in? I've actually so I visited that area. It's a beautiful area and I'll just I'll paint a little picture. When we drove there from Cupertino area, you lose cell service like an like two hours outside of the park.

25:56 It felt like it was nuts and there was apart when we were like driving around in this little electric car up these hills and like we had to stop and literally if you had stepped you always hear people say this, if you stepped a foot off the road, you would be a lot like you'd be done. It was prehistoric and it was amazing. Do you have any you know, I can recall anything that happened around that area or like any cool stories about researching that area or yeah, I mean so from when I one of my old girlfriends work to Yosemite and that really was a nice a kick in the pants and get up there even more so, but Yosemity when my perst. I remember going through a tunnel and coming to an area inspiration points, and seeing the Semity Valley and it was absolutely amazing. A guy from Scotland that got the witness that, you know, I was, you know, enthralled. I see why you know Theodore roll about some of these others.

27:00 You know, I said, this is God's country. It's just an amazing country and just amazing. So I fell in love with it. And and of course I heard about all these sad squats reports in the Sierras and Yosemite and all that. So I made at a point, you know, even though from I lived in San Diego it's like eleven twelve hour drive, I would do it as much as I could, and I did it for years. Amazing area. I've been all around yo semi backpack in Yosemite. I've been up to half Going, I've been all around Elk Cap with Semni Falls. I've been all around there. And I always liked to backpack, you know, off trail and off country. I personally, you know, I've had a lot of bear encounters up there, a ton of bear encounters. There's bearers up there galore. Oh yeah, man, I'm chasing from my camp up there. I never personally had a big foot encounter. Right there. I came across one impression I thought was interesting, could have been a double bear stamp. The most interesting thing that that I took away from Yosemite, besides just that it's it's so vast, and you know, there's a lot of people that go there. I talked to a a former park She was a female, and she was working the l cap area below the base, near a hotel out there, and she had something throwing rocks at her. And when she looked up from this little bluff, she saw this black shadow and it took off by pedally up the hill. And I heard that first person. Now we're talking ninety seven through about two thousand and six, it's kind of a time prime I would go up there. Really I didn't. Back ninety seven, I had a beeper. I didn't really have a cell phone, you know, so it wasn't like I could get cell phone reception anyways. But that's awesome. You know, there are a lot

28:33 of missing people in that area, but I'll tell you it's easily. You could get lost up there easy. And I mean the last time I was there last summer, I realized I will never go there. During the height of the season, I took my family down there and they had never been there. My eight year old daughter and my wife. We took him out. I took him out there on our way down to San Diego. Driving down from Washington, we stood. We sat in our car for over an hour trying to get in the park. It was a nightmare. There's so many people, millions of people. I forget the number, but it's over a million people that go through the park every year. You've got that many people come through a park, and you've got a lot of tourists from out of the country, they don't speak English, that had no business being in the woods. People are going to get hurt and people are going to disappear.

29:17 So there's no shock to me that I always get whold your sementys a hotspot, woll Yeah, but there's when you have that number of people that go through that area, it's to be expected. You know, I can't accounting times that I came across hurt people or lost people out there while I was hiking. And the amountain villagers out there, oh yeah, all the time. I mean I experienced that up here in the pacivin Northwest, hiking the Olympics. There's people that are unprepared or ill prepared and don't know what they're doing. So yeah, I mean Yosemite, I have no doubt there's probably sasquatch down there. I just you know, and talking to a few people that had experiences really solidified that for me. But I never had an the counter down there. But you know, when you lived eleven twelve hours away and you're kind of like a glorified camping because you're just doing it for a weekend, four days or whatever. You can only do so much, and it's an area you need to live in. The Sierra's beautiful, tons of wildlife. And if you think Yosemite is primordial or you know, you know, Jurassic Park is, should come up to Washington State or Oregon, specifically Washington State up in the Olympics where you got mobs and I've been there.

30:22 Yeah, we hiked, we hiked the whole as a whole rainforce who rainforts is crazy, it's nuts. Primorial We've been to the Forks area and and all that, that's a different story, but the whole rainforest is simply beautiful. Unexpected part of the trip definitely. Man as we start to kind of get towards the end of our time here, what is what is kind of next for I know the Olympic project is probably the main focus of your your time with squatching. Is there anything that maybe you can tease us with something that you guys are are working towards or I guess you did say that you you've found these new new vests, which uh nests, which are huge.

31:17 That's that's a huge deal because you thought that that was a dead end, but then finding new ones that's incredible. So yeah, yeah, So basically, so, you know, this initial nest site that was discovered by this Timber cruiser was probably the most exciting thing and still is the most exciting thing I've ever worked on, based on a number of actors, based on just so many different things, and you know, historically speaking, there's been other nests bound, but just not this many and not study like this where you have unknown hair that matches primate hair is doctor Melgram Moltoya. You have nest formulating constructed the huckleberry breaks and snaps and how it's formula. You needed opposable thumb, you had rocks that had score marks found, you had bush nests off the ground that were constructed like the ground nests. So still it was and still is the most exciting thing. Now going forward, well, finally after four years, we've come across some possibly new nests, but actually being I just you know, all we had as a goal as a team was to find more nest and as new as can be. I had no idea we were going to come across something making a nest as it was being made. And now we got all. We got some samples, we got some casts, some different things that I'll eventually release. We've had some really key people involved with helping us cast this stuff. And so going forward,

32:47 really it's we're just we're not ambulance chasing. We're studying was one area, this one bass area as much as we can collecting audio. You know, we do use some troll cameras, but like Lee and we're just you know, studying the area, getting all the known animals in this area, all the sounds they make, so that we can roll in and roll out what we're recording if it's suspicious, collecting data from this new nest site, looking for new nest sites. But at the same time, we're also there's the thing, something's making these nests and making them for a reason. And you know, part of you when you're out there and you feel guilty because you disturb something and the amount of work that went into making like even this new nest, it was in the you know, the process of making it, the amount of work. When my partner I disrupted it, you know, when I got back to our camp because it was in the evening, we just kind of we backed out of there. It was getting dark, went on. You know, I don't care what's making I didn't want to disturb it, and didn't know if we're in a good spot to be disturbing anything.

33:49 We went back into the next day with a few more people and discovered what we discovered. But part of you feels guilty for disrupting something making that but you know it is what it is, and uh, you know, and we'll study that area. You know, it's disturbed. So we're constantly looking for a new nests. The same time, we're also trying to be not jerks, you know, you know, if something's making a nest for a little one or a baby or a newborn. You know, who are we to go in these areas and disturb them and disrupt that that amount of work. So it's a catch twenty two the same you know, science moves on, but at the same time, uh, you know, I don't want to. I'd rather come find the nest later after it's been departed, you know exactly. That's kind of where're and that's what we're focused on, is finding new nests and studying this nests and learning everything we can about these new nests and and and the Element Project is not about proving sasquats exist.

34:38 We're about studying what we already pretty much know to exist. The majority of our Limit Project members, so we do have some things in those individuals that never had an encounter, but we're about collecting as much data so when that day comes across that sasquatch has proven, we already have everything laid out there for academia to look at. Yeah, it's so fun and it gets it out in the woods which we enjoy and we have a great group, right because at the end of the day, you're still spending a lot of good time and nature, which there's nothing wrong with that. If people want to keep track of what you're doing, what is the best the best things for them to look at? Website or social media what have you. Yeah, so we have our website is it's still we're still building upon this and working on it. A lot of us, like I said, are we have dave jobs, so it's hard to keep up, but we do keep up.

35:36 So Olympic Project dot com you can send emails there anything, audio and all that you can share and we will get back to you at some point in time. David Ellis kind of really leads that. Pardon me at this point in time. Of course, I do host my own podcast called Monster Rex Radio, and you can reach me or my partner Gunner Monson at monster x Radio one, Gmail dot com. And you know, so I'm on Facebook Change Courson, so if you got any you know, reach out to me on Facebook at Chang Corson and on Instagram, Twitter and all that stuff. But the LIMP Project dot com it is probably the best way and we have lots of resources and lots of individuals on there, David Elle, Derek Randalls, myself, just a ton of you know, Cindy Dowson, a ton of different individuals from different backgrounds and different fields that may be able to help you out. Or just check out the website. It'll be updated even more so down the road here. That's awesome, Yeah, very cool.

36:35 Well, thank you again Shane for coming on tonight and spending a little bit of a time with the big Fast Society podcast and some some pretty cool updates. I'm sure all the listeners out there will be checking out the Olympic Project website and keeping track of what you guys find next. So thank you again, sir, Thank you, Jeremy. I appreciate yep, have a good night. You two here at Bigfoot Society. Article is to provide a platform for those that have encountered Bigfoot to share their encounter in a safe and respected environment. But we need to hear your story. If you've experienced something that you just can't explain, please send me an email at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com. Then we can start the conversation. And I know a lot of you have not shared your encounter at all. It's been twenty years and it's time that you get this off your chest and then you can get some well deserved for rest, because I know you haven't been sleeping. I understand what you're going through, and I appreciate every one of you listening