Bigfoot Nests and Devil's Creek with Shane Corson (Bigfoot Society Classic)

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next week. All right, Well,

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welcome back to another episode of the
big Foot Society podcast, and we have

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the privilege this time of talking with
mister Shane Coursen. Shane is involved with

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all sorts of cool stuff Bigfoot and
I'll have them talk about that in a

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minute. But the way that I
picture is doing research into Shane. It's

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kind of like if you have the
Marvel Avenger movies and you know Agent Colson

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is there at the beginning, and
then when you start to look for Agent

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Colson, he's everywhere. So I
mean, you are, you have your

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hands and everything, sir, would
you mind going ahead and kind of what's

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a brief summary of who you are
and what you've done in the big foot

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community over the last few years.
I guess we'll start there. Okay,

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Well, I don't claim to have
done anything, but I'll tell you I

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was born and raised in Scotland,
had an interesting cryptids as a young in

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it was always fascinated with of course
in Scotland and your fascinated with the lock

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this monster and Yeddi and other cryptids
that are you know, around the world.

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Always fascinated with the subject of sasquatch. Moved over to the States in

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ninety three, still fascinated with the
sasquatch phenomena. I really did not start

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getting into sasquatch research, or what
I thought was sasquatch research, until about

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the ninety seven and that's kind of
when I got my wheels and was able

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to travel doing research in southern California
where we moved to around San Bernina Mountain,

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Julian area, and then definitely Yosemite
was on my radar for a number

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of years. Yosemite was fascinating to
me. Talked to a lot of great

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individuals individual with the head encounters,
but I personally never found anything during my

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years in California. Eventually moved up
to Oregon. I got Mary, moved

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up to Oregon in two thousand and
eight, and that's really where I started

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hitting the ground heavy up an again
and had an encounter in twenty eleven that

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solidified the existence of Sasquats for me, okay, and from there I realized

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that being a one man band,
somebody that is going about their business by

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themselves, was not very productive.
I realized that I really wasn't doing research.

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I was investigating stuff. I read
every book out there been online.

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I really had no context at that
point. I talked a few individuals and

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eventually got involved with the Olympic Project
after my encounter and got involved with like

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Cliff Barrickman and those individuals very cool
and that's kind of really jumped my research

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and joining a group and realizing that
there's more to research than what you think.

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And I really wasn't conducting research.
Now I'm now up in Washington State,

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up in you know, Western Washington
here where we do a lot of

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research and I work. You know, I'm one of the core members of

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the Limit Project now and I work
with an amazing and fantastic group of like

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minded individuals, both from the layman
world and the academic world. So that's

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kind of where I'm at now.
I've been working on a lot of projects.

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I've been around the block, and
there's a lot of cool stuff going

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on now. There's a lot of
cool stuff that's happened. So I'm very

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proud to be working with the individuals
that I work with and collaborating with them.

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And you know, I'm always an
optimist. A lot of people get

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frustrated in this field. Not me. I see all sorts of opportunities.

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Back right before this interview here,
I just got the phone with somebody that's

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working on an amazing project, very
scientific project, and so always things going

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on behind the scenes. I'm sure
my listeners listen to Bigfoot and Beyond with

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Cliff and Bobbo as well. You
had a fantastic episode on that, and

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you've referenced something that I wanted to
ask you. If you had been in

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the them, I would have asked
you right there. So you mentioned the

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Olympic Project, and I believe what
you mentioned was that in the coming year

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you would actually be having primatologists coming
to the area. Did I get that

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right from the episode or maybe did
I hear that directly? Are you talking

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about the nest area? I think
so, yeah, Yeah, we've actually

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already had primatologists. Okay, now, yeah, we've had primatologists come out

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to this area. We've had bare
biologists come out to this area. We've

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had anthropologists, archaeologists, we've had
even zoologists, which was the most recent.

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Two individuals came out from a certain
zoo here in the United States,

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not in Washington, but a certain
zoo. I can't mention it, but

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they came out and we really wanted
to get their feedback on, you know,

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these nests when it comes to known
primate behavior. These individuals worked directly

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with chimpanzees, bonobos. Uh so
we're back gorillas. So we really wanted

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to get their feel on on these
nests. Because they're not bairness and they're

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not they're definitely nests and they're formulated. Doctor Meldon's talked about these nest loads

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of time, so it's Cliff.
They've both been out to the area and

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helped us collect sample. So yes, we've brought in a lot of academic

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individuals out there because we're not you
know, I'm not a scientist. I'm

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not an academic individual. I'm I'm
an explorer. I find stuff, I

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collect stuff, and you know,
sometimes I'll visually analyze stuff, but I

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have my limits and I recognize those, and so you got to bring in

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to people with the right eye.
So yeah, we've done that. Yeah,

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very cool, very cool. If
if so, if listeners do not

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know the nest we are talking about, of course, so you can fill

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in details as we go along,
of course. But there's so you have

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access to an area of land where
it had not been touched for was it

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forty years? Yeah? Fifty plus
year? Yeah, fifty plus years.

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So like a logging company and there's
these nests that were found on there,

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and I mean they're big enough for
I believe it was either you a Cliff

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said that you could lay down in
the nest and it was quite comfortable,

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and man, it's just it's fascinating. There is one part where it's like

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you're saying, from one nest you
could see the other nests, and I

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thought that that was very fascinating.
Yeah, the the Huckleberry So all these

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nests, there's twenty two nests bound
to date, spread along a ridge line

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and they're spread out on fingers or
saddles or ridges, depending where you're from

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the country. Everybody calls it something
different. But you have a ridge line

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with a finger or a ridge or
a saddle coming down and they're spread out

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on multiple saddles, fingers, ridges
or and whatnot. And they're they're definitely

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formula. They've been constructed intelligently.
They're not some that's been haphazardly put together.

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And by what I what I meant
when I said and when I say

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that you can see from nest and
nest, well, that's that's on purpose.

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The huckerberry branches them in stripped completely
of leaves, whether that was a

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food source or on purpose to see
from nest and nest to nest and in

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their their very strategically placed these nests. But yeah, you can see every

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nest and they range in size from
you know, about three feet to about

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nine feet in size and circumference,
so I mean huge, huge, and

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we're a foot in depth. I
mean just huge law material. That is

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very, very cool. The question
I also thought the other day is so,

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uh, of course, right now
we're in the middle of the COVID

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nineteen pandemic. How has that affected
the work of the Olympic project tremendously.

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Yeah. You know, nobody gets
paid to do sasquatch research. We all

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have day jobs, we have families, and so it's really there's a lot

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of stuff we can do at home, and fortunately we do have access to

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you know, when it comes to
research, we do have access to timberland.

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We have gate keys and whatnot,
and that's where we conduct a lot

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of our business. But this whole
COVID thing, regardless of would you think

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of it and how it's affected you, it's affected everybody economically, socially,

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you name it, and so I
can speak for a lot of enthusiasts,

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bigfoot researchers, you name it that
it's affected at big time. You can't

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get into some areas that you used
to be able to get into legally.

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I mean sure, I'm sure people
are sneaking out here in Washington. They

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closed down it's opening up May five, all of the trails and parks and

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whatnot. But it's affected it tremendously
and what it's really done for the Aliment

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project. Recently, kind of jumping
ahead here, we've come across some newer

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nests. Finally, after searching for
four years, five years now, we

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came across a new nest. I
can't really get into the kills right now,

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okay, but a partner of mine
by the name of Todd Hale,

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he's a project Mayber. We were
out scouting an area that Derek Randalls and

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I had scouted two weeks prior.
While we went back out to this area

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and came across something physically making a
nest. Did not see it, but

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spooked. It sounded very large song
by pedal and oh it was. It

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was quite the experience. And I
won't get into that right now, and

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that's some stuff we're working them.
But we did come across a nest in

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the making or multiple nests in the
making, and we came across a lot

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of other really unique and very cool
tidbits to this that it proved a lot

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of things to us. So we
were in the right area, the right

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time of year, the white circumstances, and we just got really lucky and

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walked upon something making a new nest. But go back to your question,

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Well, I have some samples that
I've collected, that we've collected as a

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whole, as a one project that
I got. I can't send it anywhere

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right now, you know, And
it sucks because some of these samples,

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you know, they they go to
junk after a while. It's time sensitive

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sort of stuff. And some you
know, you know, we got some

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hair samples for example. Some of
that you can visually analyze, but to

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do any real work on it.
It's, man, it's really been.

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It was just this whole virus is
the worst timing, and we talked about

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that as a group, the worst
timing ever. Unfortunate. But upwards and

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onwards, you keep plugging away and
we'll see if we anything comes from this.

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No promises, no guarantees, but
exciting tells me we're we're doing something

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right. Regardless, you can say, regardless of what's making these nests,

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we came across whatever was making it
fresh, and that's that's awesome. That

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that is really exciting, and maybe
you can start to see a pattern like

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Okay, it's this time of year. You know, who knows the data

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that you'll get from this like this, that is super exciting. And that's

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you said, that's very recent that
that happened. Yeah, this happened back

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in February. So, I mean
the reason and cool, The real key

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there is that we hypothesize originally that
the older nest that we had we were

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led to. We didn't discover the
old old nest. They were discovered originally

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by a timber cruiser in a really
remote area doing his job. These areas

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aren't places you go hiking in,
you go hunting in, exploring in their

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off trail. They're hard to get
to there, it's a nightmare. And

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he came across them. Well,
we started to mimic what he was doing

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for years and possibly came across some
very very old nest. So ran we're

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kind of on the right truck.
Maybe we don't know. And then we

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come across this and that was in
the month of February. Again with the

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same elements. You got the salmon
come up these creeks, you got a

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lot of things going for you.
So you're right, it does add value

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to that and it's exciting tells us
we're on the right track. Oh man,

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that is that is very cool.
You've also been involved with, yeah,

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the Devil's Creek project, and that
was a few years ago where that

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where there was a lot of that, you know, those stories going around

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and you know what was going on. Would you be able to kind of

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you know, there's a chance there
are some listeners that you know, when

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I say Devil's Creek, they might
not know what I'm talking about, But

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would you be able to maybe give
the summary of that scenario. And then

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you'd mentioned before our calls started that
you actually have some some new things that

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you can share. Some things you
can't because it's you know, special situation.

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But yeah, if you go ahead
with that, that'd be awesome.

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Yeah, absolutely so. Several years
ago, Derek Randalls was contacted by an

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individual by the name of Donna.
Her husband's name is Greg, up here

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in western Washington on the east side
of the Olympics, and they had a

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lot of suspicious activity going on on
their property. Well, Donna's husband Reg

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he works all around he works all
around the country, he was rarely home,

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and Donna had all the stuff,
weird stuff happening, noises, stuff

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happening on the property. And her
husband, Greg, when he was home

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with witnessed some of this. The
majority seemed to happen when she was home,

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but he got to witness a lot
of unique things, especially audio things

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they found on their property. And
so they got ahold of Derek Randalls of

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the Olympic Project, and he came
out, and Derek's not an audio guy,

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and so he got them in touch
with David Ellis of the Olympic Project,

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who is like the audio guru.
He looks at audio visually on a

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sonic visualizer program and so he's not
just listening because your ear replay tricks on

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you. But if you can visually
analyze something and listen to it, it

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really adds value. And you can
compare those recorded sounds to the mcaulay Library

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of Sounds, for example, so
you have a context and a baseline to

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compare unknown sounds, at least unknown
to you. And so David and Donna

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really started place, you know,
placing audio recorders on the property. Well,

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I mean the backtrack a little bit. Donna had a sighting near her

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property, you know, when they
were driving up the road to their property,

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just down the road in what it's
been coined Devil's Creek. And let

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me clarify something. There is no
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Devil's Creek. It was a name
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involved. And you know, at
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like to name Devil's Creek because there
are Devil's Creeks around the country. We'll

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was a pseudo name, just a
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mainly because there was a lot of
individuals trying to find this area and we

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wanted to throw them off. They
you know, they were trying to there's

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a lot of people out there.
Yeah, they find spots. So we

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stuck with Devil's Creek. Not the
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but there was a reason behind that. Now, don't get me wrong,

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there's a lot that creek plays a
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phenomena. And so after David Elle
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previously had her sighting. I started
getting involved in going up there placing

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audio and I spent quite a few
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some my own experiences and no sightings, and I do have flear equipment.

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I tried very thick, hilly area, and it wasn't like every night,

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it was every once in a while. But this one on for several years

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and I did get the chance.
Donna called me up one day and said,

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hey, basically, backpack a little
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moved out of that house, planning
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They got another house, well not
nearby, but you know, about hours

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away from this place. They got
another house, so they're paying two mortgages,

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and they wanted to do something with
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it was important for research, and
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I mean, God bless him,
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neat stuff on the property, experienced
a lot of neat stuff. And as

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as they were living on this separate
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this house and they hired a contractor, a contracting business to come up and

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fix one of their like a kind
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behold this guy. This one of
the contract tractors, had a sighting possibly

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two sidings in the area, and
he knew nothing about the big foot phenomenon

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going on in the property. He
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best part. That's the best part
where he's like, that's a little weird

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that all what's gone. That's awes
exactly exactly. You know. We talked

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about this on MONSTRAI Tradio, my
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was just it was phenomenal, and
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over the years and studying this area, some of the elderly neighbors that live

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close by. One of the women
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she knew there was sasquat. She
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without Donna really you know, insinuating
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It's up in this area. So
there's a lot of collaboration, there,

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a lot of ideas there where other
people are aware the other people have

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seen something and there's no it's not
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It just pops up and then historically
in this area there's multiple reports on one

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project gets taken in personally, I've
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of this area that have talked about
other reports from neighbors and people within a

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couple of square miles and some of
the lakes in this area, there's reports.

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So why why Donna was having this
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know. You know, she was
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lot of really big windows where something
from the forest line could watch her.

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no doubt she had a lot of
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Now fast forward, there were some
unfortunate events that took place. Unfortunately,

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Donna and Gregg sold the property and
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There's still stuff going on in some
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it's not an area you can get
intoout getting into trouble, and it's private

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property and all that stuff. So
it's a real shame there. But I

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guess, you know, paying two
mortgages and just that Donna did not feel

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comfortable staying there anymore and they had
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Creeks concerned, there's not really anything
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I'm not being in contact with the
new inhabitants. They're not aware of

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any of the stuff that went on
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anything. That's a story in itself. It's like, did they know what

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they were getting into buying property?
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don't think it would be slow.
I think it would be quick that they

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would figure out, like there's something
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knows, right, I mean,
all bets are off. I don't know.

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Still get reports from that area.
I do still visit some of the adjacent

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I don't get I can't get access
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personal opinion, they definitely had sasquatch
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about it, with the multiple signings
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with me. I've had rocks thrown
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spend enough time there. I really
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I spent many nights are by myself
edge the property had you know, a

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lot of experiences. I've never got
anything on fleer. The brush is so

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thick and whatever it was would never
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flear. So it is what it
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sharing that. That's that's a really
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that had. Yeah, that's not
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I'll tell you Donn and Gregg.

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Sorry to interrupted Donn and Gregor,
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the utmost respect from Donna and David
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And I know Donna's very thankful for
David Ellison and Derek and myself,

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two stand up individuals that didn't ask
for this, just happened, and they

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were willing to go along and do
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and unfortunately things didn't work out with
their lives and with the property. But

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the chance to to get involved with
one of these rare occurrencies where you have

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this consistent activity happening on the property, not necessarily year round, but consistently.

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That's the sort of places you want
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I'm not, for say, an
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days are asked, I don't you
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but the co founder of the Elment
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know heat for years. He's been
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he used to go to Idaho,
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go to Idaho at the drop of
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if there was an account, he
drive out there or wherever. And

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you can get a lot of good
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know that the crime's done and defined
a place where there's a lot of activity

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and it's ongoing. That's really not
ambulance chasing. You're trying to do a

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conductive study there and figure out what's
going on. So that's that's that's something

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I think when those occurrences happen,
and it's happened a few times in my

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experience with this research and and some
others, that's the places you really want

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to be m very cool, very
cool. I'm gonna throw out a random

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left field question just to see if
anything sticks. Doesn't, we'll go to

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somewhere else. So you've had all
these you know, you're focused on big

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foot. I'm in uh this the
Midwest area. We have a lot of

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like things flying around, thunderbirds,
stuff like that. Have you ever run

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into any weird stuff? I don't
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actually will come up in the Pacific
Northwest, like large flying cryptids or anything

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like that, or not really a
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Well, here's the thing. You
know, growing up, I was involved

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interested in a lot of crypt It's
not involved. I was interested in all

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sorts of cryptics. I'm well burst
on a lot of cryptids up here and

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northwest. I mean, you go
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big sign that says keep Portland's weird
down in or it's great. Yeah,

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and it is weird. The you
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spot. There's a lot of things
that you know, people will claim to

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see. You know, they have
a Cadborosaurus on the coast that apparently it's

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like a water cryptid because from San
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call Caddie. There's, of course, the the large thunderbirds. There's you

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know, pterodactyl, tranidon sightings.
Apparently you got UFO sightings. I personally

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never seen any of that stuff.
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the woods, and I spend ungall
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I've never personally come across you know, I've never seen any weird orbs or

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lights. You know, none of
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credible people that claim to have seen
you know, Cadburisaurus or a flying cryptid

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that's much larger enacting peculiar. You
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the woods or UFOs. I mean
Washington State, you know, I think

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one of the really first big UFO
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ooh, what the sixties, fifties
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So it's an where there's a lot
of stuff that happens up here, and

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different cryptids, you know. We
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what I come across the sasquatch sightings
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people will ever guess. You know, for every you know, one siding

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you hear about or two signs you
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can only imagine how many more signings
are out there that you know, from

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people that are either not willing to
talk or just don't have an opportunity to

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talk about it. Very cool,
very cool. You'd mentioned before that you

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have actually you spent time in the
Yosemite area early on. Can you go

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in? I've actually so I visited
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you lose cell service like an like
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It felt like it was nuts and
there was apart when we were like driving

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around in this little electric car up
these hills and like we had to stop

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and literally if you had stepped you
always hear people say this, if you

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stepped a foot off the road,
you would be a lot like you'd be

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done. It was prehistoric and it
was amazing. Do you have any you

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know, I can recall anything that
happened around that area or like any cool

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stories about researching that area or yeah, I mean so from when I one

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of my old girlfriends work to Yosemite
and that really was a nice a kick

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in the pants and get up there
even more so, but Yosemity when my

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perst. I remember going through a
tunnel and coming to an area inspiration points,

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and seeing the Semity Valley and it
was absolutely amazing. A guy from

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Scotland that got the witness that,
you know, I was, you know,

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enthralled. I see why you know
Theodore roll about some of these others.

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You know, I said, this
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amazing country and just amazing. So
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and of course I heard about all
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Yosemite and all that. So I
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even though from I lived in San
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I would do it as much as
I could, and I did it for

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years. Amazing area. I've been
all around yo semi backpack in Yosemite.

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I've been up to half Going,
I've been all around Elk Cap with Semni

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Falls. I've been all around there. And I always liked to backpack,

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you know, off trail and off
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I've had a lot of bear encounters
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There's bearers up there galore. Oh
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my camp up there. I never
personally had a big foot encounter. Right

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there. I came across one impression
I thought was interesting, could have been

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a double bear stamp. The most
interesting thing that that I took away from

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Yosemite, besides just that it's it's
so vast, and you know, there's

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a lot of people that go there. I talked to a a former park

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She was a female, and she
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base, near a hotel out there, and she had something throwing rocks at

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her. And when she looked up
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black shadow and it took off by
pedally up the hill. And I heard

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that first person. Now we're talking
ninety seven through about two thousand and six,

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it's kind of a time prime I
would go up there. Really I

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didn't. Back ninety seven, I
had a beeper. I didn't really have

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a cell phone, you know,
so it wasn't like I could get cell

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phone reception anyways. But that's awesome. You know, there are a lot

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of missing people in that area,
but I'll tell you it's easily. You

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could get lost up there easy.
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there last summer, I realized I
will never go there. During the height

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of the season, I took my
family down there and they had never been

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there. My eight year old daughter
and my wife. We took him out.

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I took him out there on our
way down to San Diego. Driving

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down from Washington, we stood.
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hour trying to get in the park. It was a nightmare. There's so

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many people, millions of people.
I forget the number, but it's over

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a million people that go through the
park every year. You've got that many

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people come through a park, and
you've got a lot of tourists from out

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of the country, they don't speak
English, that had no business being in

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the woods. People are going to
get hurt and people are going to disappear.

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So there's no shock to me that
I always get whold your sementys a

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hotspot, woll Yeah, but there's
when you have that number of people that

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go through that area, it's to
be expected. You know, I can't

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accounting times that I came across hurt
people or lost people out there while I

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was hiking. And the amountain villagers
out there, oh yeah, all the

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time. I mean I experienced that
up here in the pacivin Northwest, hiking

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the Olympics. There's people that are
unprepared or ill prepared and don't know what

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they're doing. So yeah, I
mean Yosemite, I have no doubt there's

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probably sasquatch down there. I just
you know, and talking to a few

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people that had experiences really solidified that
for me. But I never had an

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the counter down there. But you
know, when you lived eleven twelve hours

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away and you're kind of like a
glorified camping because you're just doing it for

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a weekend, four days or whatever. You can only do so much,

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and it's an area you need to
live in. The Sierra's beautiful, tons

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of wildlife. And if you think
Yosemite is primordial or you know, you

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know, Jurassic Park is, should
come up to Washington State or Oregon,

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specifically Washington State up in the Olympics
where you got mobs and I've been there.

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Yeah, we hiked, we hiked
the whole as a whole rainforce who

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rainforts is crazy, it's nuts.
Primorial We've been to the Forks area and

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and all that, that's a different
story, but the whole rainforest is simply

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beautiful. Unexpected part of the trip
definitely. Man as we start to kind

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of get towards the end of our
time here, what is what is kind

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of next for I know the Olympic
project is probably the main focus of your

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your time with squatching. Is there
anything that maybe you can tease us with

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something that you guys are are working
towards or I guess you did say that

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you you've found these new new vests, which uh nests, which are huge.

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That's that's a huge deal because you
thought that that was a dead end,

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but then finding new ones that's incredible. So yeah, yeah, So

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basically, so, you know,
this initial nest site that was discovered by

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this Timber cruiser was probably the most
exciting thing and still is the most exciting

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thing I've ever worked on, based
on a number of actors, based on

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just so many different things, and
you know, historically speaking, there's been

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other nests bound, but just not
this many and not study like this where

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you have unknown hair that matches primate
hair is doctor Melgram Moltoya. You have

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nest formulating constructed the huckleberry breaks and
snaps and how it's formula. You needed

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opposable thumb, you had rocks that
had score marks found, you had bush

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nests off the ground that were constructed
like the ground nests. So still it

436
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was and still is the most exciting
thing. Now going forward, well,

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finally after four years, we've come
across some possibly new nests, but actually

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being I just you know, all
we had as a goal as a team

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was to find more nest and as
new as can be. I had no

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idea we were going to come across
something making a nest as it was being

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made. And now we got all. We got some samples, we got

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some casts, some different things that
I'll eventually release. We've had some really

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key people involved with helping us cast
this stuff. And so going forward,

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really it's we're just we're not ambulance
chasing. We're studying was one area,

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this one bass area as much as
we can collecting audio. You know,

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we do use some troll cameras,
but like Lee and we're just you know,

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studying the area, getting all the
known animals in this area, all

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the sounds they make, so that
we can roll in and roll out what

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we're recording if it's suspicious, collecting
data from this new nest site, looking

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for new nest sites. But at
the same time, we're also there's the

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thing, something's making these nests and
making them for a reason. And you

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know, part of you when you're
out there and you feel guilty because you

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disturb something and the amount of work
that went into making like even this new

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nest, it was in the you
know, the process of making it,

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the amount of work. When my
partner I disrupted it, you know,

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when I got back to our camp
because it was in the evening, we

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just kind of we backed out of
there. It was getting dark, went

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on. You know, I don't
care what's making I didn't want to disturb

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it, and didn't know if we're
in a good spot to be disturbing anything.

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We went back into the next day
with a few more people and discovered

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what we discovered. But part of
you feels guilty for disrupting something making that

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but you know it is what it
is, and uh, you know,

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and we'll study that area. You
know, it's disturbed. So we're constantly

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looking for a new nests. The
same time, we're also trying to be

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not jerks, you know, you
know, if something's making a nest for

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a little one or a baby or
a newborn. You know, who are

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we to go in these areas and
disturb them and disrupt that that amount of

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work. So it's a catch twenty
two the same you know, science moves

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on, but at the same time, uh, you know, I don't

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want to. I'd rather come find
the nest later after it's been departed,

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you know exactly. That's kind of
where're and that's what we're focused on,

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is finding new nests and studying this
nests and learning everything we can about these

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new nests and and and the Element
Project is not about proving sasquats exist.

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We're about studying what we already pretty
much know to exist. The majority of

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our Limit Project members, so we
do have some things in those individuals that

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never had an encounter, but we're
about collecting as much data so when that

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day comes across that sasquatch has proven, we already have everything laid out there

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for academia to look at. Yeah, it's so fun and it gets it

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out in the woods which we enjoy
and we have a great group, right

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because at the end of the day, you're still spending a lot of good

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time and nature, which there's nothing
wrong with that. If people want to

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keep track of what you're doing,
what is the best the best things for

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them to look at? Website or
social media what have you. Yeah,

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so we have our website is it's
still we're still building upon this and working

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on it. A lot of us, like I said, are we have

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dave jobs, so it's hard to
keep up, but we do keep up.

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So Olympic Project dot com you can
send emails there anything, audio and

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all that you can share and we
will get back to you at some point

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in time. David Ellis kind of
really leads that. Pardon me at this

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point in time. Of course,
I do host my own podcast called Monster

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Rex Radio, and you can reach
me or my partner Gunner Monson at monster

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x Radio one, Gmail dot com. And you know, so I'm on

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Facebook Change Courson, so if you
got any you know, reach out to

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me on Facebook at Chang Corson and
on Instagram, Twitter and all that stuff.

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But the LIMP Project dot com it
is probably the best way and we

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have lots of resources and lots of
individuals on there, David Elle, Derek

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Randalls, myself, just a ton
of you know, Cindy Dowson, a

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ton of different individuals from different backgrounds
and different fields that may be able to

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help you out. Or just check
out the website. It'll be updated even

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more so down the road here.
That's awesome, Yeah, very cool.

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Well, thank you again Shane for
coming on tonight and spending a little bit

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of a time with the big Fast
Society podcast and some some pretty cool updates.

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I'm sure all the listeners out there
will be checking out the Olympic Project

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website and keeping track of what you
guys find next. So thank you again,

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sir, Thank you, Jeremy.
I appreciate yep, have a good

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night. You two here at Bigfoot
Society. Article is to provide a platform

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00:37:06.719 --> 00:37:12.320
for those that have encountered Bigfoot to
share their encounter in a safe and respected

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00:37:12.440 --> 00:37:16.239
environment. But we need to hear
your story. If you've experienced something that

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00:37:16.280 --> 00:37:22.880
you just can't explain, please send
me an email at Bigfoot Society at gmail

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00:37:22.960 --> 00:37:27.960
dot com. Then we can start
the conversation. And I know a lot

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of you have not shared your encounter
at all. It's been twenty years and

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it's time that you get this off
your chest and then you can get some

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well deserved for rest, because I
know you haven't been sleeping. I understand

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what you're going through, and I
appreciate every one of you listening