Car Camping in Florida and the Skunk Ape was Right Outside!

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Welcome to Big for Society. In
this episode, I talked to Marie Dumont

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about her research in Florida, about
skunk capes, orbs and more. Not

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This one's a good one. So
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All right, Big for Society.
We've got the privilege of talking to Marie

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Dumont from down there in Florida,
Mid Florida Bigfoot Research Group. How's it

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going tonight? Marie? Very good? How are you, Jeremiah, I'm

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doing great. I'm excited to chat
with you. I don't get to talk

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to a lot of people from Florida
on the podcast, but can you tell

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us a little bit about the Mid
Florida Bigfoot Research Group? Marie. Oh

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boy, Okay, So I well, first of all, you can find

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the Mid Florida Bigfoot Research Group on
Facebook, Instagram, and YouTube, and

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I also have a website. It's
mid Florida mid Florida Bigfoot dot com and

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there you can see you know,
research gallery, photos, you know,

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press and media. There's facts about
Florida. There's bios for our team members,

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so you can get to learn a
little bit more about us if you

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like. But anyway, I started
the group five years ago. I've always

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I've always been into the paranormal.
I've been a paranormal investigator for over thirty

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years. And it started out with
ghost hunting UFOs and then I had some

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friends who were very interested in bigfoot. So I wasn't really too interested at

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the time, but I was like, let me, you know, let

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me check this out. So it's
because of that that I started to go

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out with them and we would go
to the O'calan National Forest and look around.

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And what really did it for me
was I was on a camp out

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with my friends and a bunch of
probably about fifteen other people. We were

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in the Ocalan National Forest and just
a primitive, just a spot we just

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picked and about one thirty in the
morning, we heard this huge vocalization,

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just one long, lengthy It would
be classified probably like the classic Ohio big

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foot call. It was unbelievable.
And all this happened on the coldest night

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of the year when we were camping, like I said, at one thirty

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in the morning, and that's what
solidified it for me. That's when I

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was like, I've got to look
into this. I want to be the

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one to prove that they do exist
in Florida, bigfoots and scum games.

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So that's how the journey began.
Then I started going on Facebook trying to

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find a group, a Florida group
that specialized in just Florida research, and

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at the time I couldn't find anything. So that was when I decided to

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start my own group. And you
know, like I said, I've had

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it for five years. I have
over seven thousand members now and it's just

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wonderful. It's it's a place where
Florida researchers and individuals can go there not

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be ridiculed. They can share their
stories, they can share their evidence,

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you share their knowledge, because that's
what this is about, that's what it's

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supposed to be about sharing knowledge with
each other because we all have something to

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learn from one another. So that's
why I do it, and it's it's

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been wonderful. And I have my
own research team and there's four of us.

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It's me and Mike Aular Ruby,
Joe Brew and Chris Hensley, and

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we are very dedicated, very serious
bigfoot and skun Gape researchers. We are

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out in the field in the swamps
and what's every single weekend and we have

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been for the past five years,
every single weekend, sometimes more than one

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day of the weekend. So it's
it's just been an incredible journey and I'm

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just so grateful. That's amazing.
So every pretty much you said every weekend

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of every weekend. Wow. Is
this primarily an Okawa National Forest or do

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you guys have kind of go around
to different areas. We go to different

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areas. We're mostly in the central
Florida, which I'm in Tampa, you

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know, Mike is an an area
called Wesley Chapel Moor, north Tampa.

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So the places we go to are
I've been to the Calan National Forest,

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like I said, but typically we
go to areas north of Tampa and Pascoe

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County. We go to the Green
Swamp which is over by Lake glynd We

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go outside of Tampa, which would
be around Hillsboro State Park, Morris Bridge

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Road, Highway three oh one,
and so we just kind of rotate.

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You know, we have places that
we have found be interesting and some of

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the places are very interesting. They
never disappoint Every time we go out there,

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we will find something very weird,
and so we just kind of rotate.

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We rotate around to these area.
But we do have one particular active

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research area that we've had now for
over two years and you talk about crazy

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activity, it's been unbelievable. And
so, you know, probably maybe about

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ten places total in our area.
And then we'll go down to the Everglades

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because David Cheley is an honorary team
member. He's a skunk Gate expert,

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so he's found the Everglades. We'll
go down there and do research with him,

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or he'll come up to Tampa and
go researching with us. So we

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work closely together with him as well. And so but we've also been to

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other places in South Florida, depending
on you know, if we're going to

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go on a camp out investigation or
around Jacksonville which is where we had incredible

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stuff happening there at Jennings State Forest
in February. So Dave Sheeley is one

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of the individuals I've always wanted to
meet him. I'm actually looking forward to

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meeting him in Oakridge. I'm going
to be out in Oakridge. Yes,

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yes, it should be a fun
time. There's a lot of really cool

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individuals that are going to be there. And yeah, he is a person

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I have yet to meet. Oh
yeah, it'll be a good time.

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Yeah it is. You'll like him. He's very down to earth, nice

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guy, and we're going We're also
going with him. Mike and I have

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been asked to speak at the Meddling
Falls Bigfoot Festival, which is in Washington

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and that's on Father's Day weekend June
fifteenth, So that's for a month from

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now. So we'll be going there
and we'll be doing a presentation about bigfoots

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and skuncapes and flora. Oh wow. So if anybody is in that area

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going to that festival, please,
you know, attend our presentation or if

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you see us walk around, stop
by, say hi, introduce yourself,

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and you know it's gonna be great. I wish I was going to the

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Oregon one too, Madeleine is one
of those that always comes up as a

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one that's really worth it to make
the trip out to. So that's pretty

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cool that you're able to, uh
to get out there to speak for that.

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There's there's something I've noticed that you've
said a few times, and I

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want to I want to hone in
on it just for a little bit because

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it's kind of something that's always been
in the back of my mind too.

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About Florida, You've mentioned a few
times the terms bigfoot in skuncape in the

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same sentence. But yes, they
are two different things. So I'm really

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curious about what you're you're your thoughts
are as to is skunkcake bigfoot or is

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this two different creatures that we are
seeing there in Florida. Well, our

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team tends to believe that there are
two separate species of you know. We

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have the reason why we believe that
is the reports in different areas of Florida

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are different. So, say,
for instance, Central Florida to North Florida,

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the reports are the typical bigfoots a
little smaller. They're usually six to

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nine feet tall, right, and
they are you know, more muscular,

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they're beefy, they're you know,
reddish brown hair, five toes and all

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that stuff. But once you listen, when you hear reports and I witness

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fightings of what's down in South Florida, what they've encountered, they're different.

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They're very different. And it seems
to be a smaller creature which is five

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to seven feet tall and very thin, and it has four toes, not

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five toes, four toes. That's
interesting that that comes up in different places

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as well. Yes, have you
found that the two one seems to be

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more aggressive? Is a skuncape a
more aggressive creature or the bigfoot in the

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north of Florida more aggressive? Have
you found anything like that in reports?

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Not that much, except that I
would I don't know how to say this.

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Skuncapes, you know, there's the
majority of them seem to be in

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the Everglades area. The Everglades area
is about three million acres, okay,

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and so that's where it seems to
be the biggest population is. So everything

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in the Everglades is out to kill
you, Okay. So you've got Florida

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panthers, you've got Burmese pythons,
you've got other dangerous killer snakes. You

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have. You know, you have
coyotes, You've got all these things,

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alligators, crocodiles. You know,
it's very hard to you know, step

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into the swamps and the everglades and
not encounter something that's out to get you.

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So that's why the skuncapes seem to
be a little more aggressive problem because

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they have to be right. They
have to be in order to survive when

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you're dealing with all of those creatures, especially alligators and crocodiles and panthers and

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python snakes. So, you know, but we do believe that the skunk

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gap could be a subspecies of bigfoots
Now, there is a what's it called

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it, there's a rule called Bergman's
rules, if you've ever heard of that

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before, that states that the closer
you get to the equator, the smaller

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animals will be. So, for
instance, deer deer in North Florida are

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big, but you go down to
like the keys or whatever. We've got

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a key deer which are tiny.
They're like the size of a dog,

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very small, but they have to
be in order to survive because of the

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heat and humidity that is down there. You know, something big and bulky

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and huge cannot survive with all the
muscle and the hair and stuff. It's

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hot, it's very humid, you
know, the feel like temperatures can be

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over one hundred and ten degrees down
there, so it's miserable. It's miserable

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here. It's more miserable down the
Everglades. So that's that's why there seems

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to be a difference four toes versus
five toes. Don't know, maybe there's

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been some inner breeding along the way, some kind of defect, geneic defit,

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or if you think about skunk apes, an ape, they probably need

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longer toes in order to climb the
trees like in the Everglades to get out

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of the water, which is always
a possibility as well. So maybe that's

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why they got these long four toes. But i'll show you right here.

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Have a it's a copy of a
cast that one of my part time team

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members found down south. Okay,
here, I'll show it to you here

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if you can see it. Can
you see it? Oh yeah, we

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see the fore toes. Yeah.
Interesting, Yeah, so it's pretty cool.

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But that's the kind of thing.
And this is a very narrow print

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as well, so maybe they are
that way because they have to climb trees

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and they need toes to be able
to climb up a tree, you know,

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a cypress tree or whatever. In
the Everglades, when I was out

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there with my team a few years
ago, we were walking down this dry

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path where there's water on both sides. Right, it's the Everglades, and

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I looked over the left. I
look up in the tree and it looks

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like a giant hammock about ten feet
long maybe eight feet wide, made with

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thousands of vines like they were all
just like clumped together. It would be

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the perfect place for something to get
up there and sleep, to get up

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there and get out of the water. It was in the water, but

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it wasn't too far off the dry
path. It's the perfect spot. It

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looked like a hammock. Not saying
that's what it is, but it could

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be used whether it's a skunk gate
or maybe a panther. A panther could

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jump up there and yeah, sleep
to get out of the water, you

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know, the watery conditions. So
you know, I think when most people

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think of the skun cap, they
probably think of the may Eco. Yes

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photo, yes, and you know
that kind of has an orangutang Yestan look

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to it. Have you found that
in your reports that there are sometimes characteristics

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reported that are close to yes,
orangutan would look like Yes, Yes,

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absolutely. The majority of the Skunk
Cape sightings are of a reddish brown creature.

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And if you look at that picture
of the you know, the Mayaka

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picture, it is reddish, you
know, in color, but it has

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some white on its face and stuff
like that. But some people have said

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it kind of looks like amerangutang,
but orangutang's, you know, don't get

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to be five to seven feet tall, so we don't know what it is,

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but it's pretty fascinating. You mentioned
the Green Swamp earlier, and that's

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a location that is starting to come
up in different bits of media. I've

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noticed different videos on YouTube, documentaries, et cetera. Have you experienced any

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things in that area? Yeah,
And what's really interesting, we've had some

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like paranormal stuff happen out there really
well, big footing that's where the majority

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of the stuff has been. So, you know, we've found structures,

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we have found prints out there.
Part time team member of doctor Bill Hewitt

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and Bigfoot, Dave Miller. They
were camping out there one night and Dave

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was in a tent and his head. Something but large hands put their hands

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underneath his head and lifted his head
up in the tent to where he was

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at an upright sitting position, and
then it gently put him back down.

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That's not normal, that's not you
know, Bear's not going to do that.

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No, I mean, how do
you explain giant hands lifting his head

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through the tent. You know,
that's a whole new level of take you

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out if I wanted to, absolutely, but absolutely. But earlier in the

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day, they were hiking and they
found a grapefruit tree, a wild grapefruit

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tree, and so they were like, oh cool. You know, they

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picked a couple of the grapefruits and
they stuck it in the backpack, and

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then you know, when they were
done, they went to the camp and

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that night is when this creature came
to their campsite did what it did with

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Dave, and then it also opened
up the coolers. It took out a

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stack of hamburgers, raw hamburgers,
and so you know, there's paper between

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the hamburg patties. There was a
trail of white square papers leading out of

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the campgrounds. So it was eating
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next burger while it's walking. It
was just throwing down the paper. I

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was eating the hamburgers. Oh,
but they checked the backpack. It had

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taken it the grapefruits. It then
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zipped the backpack closed again. So
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It's probably his favorite tree, its
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he wanted it back. So he
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and got hamburgers in the process,
right, so extra extra bonus for him.

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Were there any tracks found around the
campsite. No, Okay, wow,

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that's really weird. No, it's
just hard, you know, it's

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just hard and leaves and pining,
nooles and stuff like that. Very trumpacted.

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It wasn't a loose you know,
it wasn't loose substrate or anything.

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Has there been a time when you've
been out researching in the field and just

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things got very intense and you're like, if I could get out of here,

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I could get out of here.
I haven't. I have not,

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I have not. But team member
Mike, he's been hit with infrasound about

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two or three times, so he
has had that we got to get out

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of here. We got to get
out of here, or he'll feel very

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physically ill. He'll have to sit
down, he'll throw up. And so

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he's experienced in for sound about three
times total while we've been out. I

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don't experience the fear. I don't
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I've seen all kinds of strange things, so I don't know. I'm

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just not that fearful. But I'm
sure something walked. If a bigfoot walked

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out in front of me, I'd
probably be a little scared, but also

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most people would, yeah, but
also very fascinated. Absolutely. What do

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you think that the closest that you've
been to a big foot Earth's gun Cape

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would be? Okay, the closest
would have been in February, my movement

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camping at Jennings State Forest and that's
by Jacksonville. We went on a week

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end camp out there. We were
meeting up with Mike Famelot from the Shadow

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of Big Red Eye. He's a
good friend of ours and he always comes

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down the floor and in the wintertime
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So he picked Jennings because there's been
reports there, and I really didn't know

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that much about the reports. But
we went there on a Friday, and

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when we got there, it had
rained just lightly, not too much,

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and we became friends with a couple
of volunteers who were doing like security.

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They were driving around the campground and
stuff like that, and so they took

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us out at night. You're not
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they took us out, and they
took us to this one interesting spot by

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the power lines, and so we
got out of the car and we're just

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like looking around as pitch black.
You know, I have my little flashlight.

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We weren't really prepared to go out
exploring, but they took us out

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here. So everybody was kind of
like standing around talking and there was a

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like a forest road. It was
all sand. It had been tilled,

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so it was, you know,
really clumpy and stuff like that. Yeah,

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it was probably tilled, you know, two weeks prior or something like

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that. And I had my flashlights. Saw one of the roads was really

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dark and creepy looking, and of
course that's going to appeal to me.

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So I was like, screw it, I'm just going to go take a

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walk down this path and just see
what I can find. You know,

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it's sand, right, So I'm
looking and I see what looks like a

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footprint and I'm like hmm, and
then I'm looking for another one. I

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find another one and I'm like,
okay, this is a sugar sand.

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So it's not well defined, but
it's enough that you can see the toest.

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You could see toes. And so
I called the rest of the you

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know, Mike and Chris over.
Ruby was with me, and I said,

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take a look at this. I
said, this looks like these look

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like prince and this looks like a
trackway. And they're like, oh my

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god, yeah it does. And
so we quickly did a measurement. The

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prince were sixteen inches long and the
stride between the prince was fifty four inches.

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So that was like, this is
amazing. But it's pitch black.

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It's like almost midnight. So we
stuck a couple of sticks on the ground

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so we could come back the next
morning and take a closer look at them.

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Right, so buye. We put
the sticks out, and then we

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leave and we go back to our
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at one campground. Mike and Chris
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and then Mike Famelot was at the
last campground where Ruby and I were

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at. Her and I were car
camping. We were parked probably fifteen eighteen

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feet away from each other, so
we gave each other plenty of privacy in

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room, but we were sleeping in
our cars. And one thing about me

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is that whenever I go somewhere,
I can never sleep on the first night

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ever. So here I am.
I'm in my car. But prior to

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that, for some reason, I
asked Ruby what time you get up in

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the morning. I don't know why
I asked or that, but I did.

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And she says, I around four
thirty or five. And I'm like,

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what, that's crazy. So anyway, so I'm in my car.

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Of course I'm trying to sleep,
and I'm just like, I can't,

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and it's pitch black. I have
shades on my windows and everything. And

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then probably around four or five in
the morning, I hear something loud walking

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by ba Lee on the driver's side
of my car. It's just boom boom,

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boom boom, And I'm like,
is Ruby up? Why is she

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walking so loud? That doesn't make
sense why she would be walking so loud.

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I just hear boom boom, boom
boom, and I'm like, it's

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just really weird. And then something
bumped my car. I went whoa like

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that, and I'm like, oh, I'm like, I'm still not believing

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it's anything weird. I'm still thinking
it's Ruby, right, and I'm like,

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why is Ruby bumping into my car? Why is she getting that close

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to my car? It's like four
or five in the morning, it's pitch

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black outside, and I was like, Wow, that's really weird. I'm

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like, huh, this is I'm
not sure about this. So in the

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morning, when the light, when
everything got light, I got out of

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my car, looked around, didn't
see Ruby anywhere. I thought, okay,

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well, maybe she got up early
and went for a hike. In

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the meantime, I walked down to
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I wanted to eat breakfast, and
so Mike comes out of his tent

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and he starts telling me about how
he couldn't sleep at all that night either,

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and something bipedal and heavy walked around
their tents and their campsite, and

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I was like, we had I
had the same thing happened the exact same

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thing happened, I said, but
it pushed my car. It bumped my

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car. So it was then that
we're like, oh goodness, we have

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a big foot that's walking around,
bumped my car, walk around. Mike

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and Chris is tents. Chris didn't
here because he was asleep. Amazing,

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absolutely amazing. So I go back
to my campsite. Ruby gets out of

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her car and I'm like, oh, what are you doing? I said,

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did you just get up? She
said, yeah, I just got

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up. And I'm like, oh, so you didn't get up at four

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or five in the morning like you
said. She's like, no, I'm

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just getting up now. And I'm
like it was definitely a big thing.

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So after breakfast, we got on
the trucks. We went to where the

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trackway was and so we could get
a better look at it. We brought

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casting material. We tried to cast
two of the best ones we could find,

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but our mixture I think was too
thick. I wish it was a

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little more watery where it would possibly
pick up the toes better. But Mike

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has an iPhone and there is a
apt they are called scan verse, and

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you could do a three D scan
of the prince, and so he did

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and it turned out amazing. You
could definitely see the toes. It's cool

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because you can. It's interactive,
you can move it around, you can

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look at it from different angles.
You can see how deep it was,

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and it was a deep The prints
were deep. They were probably about three

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inches deep. And like I said, the stride was fifty four inches sixteen

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inch prince and they went for about
a quarter of a mile and ended at

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a creek. So what an amazing
weekend, amazing four hours, right,

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that is wild? It was that
was talked about in the Bigfoot Times.

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Yes, yes, yes, and
that's that's on my wall back there.

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I can see it right, Yes, that's awesome. Yes, Bigfoot Times

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March twenty twenty four edition. And
we made the cover and because Daniel Perez

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reached out to me and he's like, who found the Prince, and I

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said I did, and he's like, I want to talk to you,

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and so he interviewed me and I
sent him pictures and he put us on

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the cover of the March issue,
which was a huge achievement for us.

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And it was quite an honor to
be recognized in that way. And it's

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an unbelievable story. So much happened
that one night, you know, So

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definitely if listeners haven't heard of The
Bigfoot Times and you like to nerd out

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about Bigfoot, you need to look
that up and get a subscription to it.

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It's a print news letter that comes
to you in the mail every month

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and talks about all the Bigfoot stuff
that you won't hear anywhere else. That's

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very cool. Yeah, the Lazies
greatest news in the big Foot community.

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Yeah. He does a great job
with it. He does a great job.

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So yes, So that was that
was the closest that I've really ever

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been to a bigfoot him outside my
car, which is awesome. Yeah,

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I mean that's that's pretty close.
Like you can your car is actually sounds

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like it was jostled back and forth. Yeah, it was bumped from the

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back. It was bumped on the
back. Okay. Have you been back

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to that area since at that time? Yeah, not yet, probably next

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winter, just because it's getting too
hot now and it's about for us three

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and a half hour drive to get
there, and but this time of year

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it's not good for camping. It's
just too buggy, it's too hot and

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miserable, but next winter we probably
will. Okay. Have you heard of

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similar situations or sightings in that same
area? Is that something you've looked into?

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Well? I heard I heard a
story or read about a story,

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like a couple of weeks ago of
somebody who went to They knew about the

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area, and they said, what's
common the common reports there are a creature

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that jumps over the roads and hangs
around the campgrounds. M hmm, jumps

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over the roads. That's a jump
over. Yeah, jumps over the roads

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and goes in the campgrounds. And
I didn't know any of this beforehand.

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I found this out afterwards. So
when I heard they go on the campgrounds,

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I'm like, oh, yeah,
here, that's exactly what happened to

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us. So we were very lucky
right place at the right time. Have

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you ever been able to talk to
I mean, I guess in Iowa we

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call him d n R. Any
any forestry workers or any any officials state

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park employees about about Big Four activities? Has that ever come up or is

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a thing where it's in that area
or just in Florida? Just I guess

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in any of your any of your
areas that you yes, yes, we've

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befriended a park ranger and he's totally
in the bigfoot, which is awesome because

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you never think about park rangers being
into that, you know. And so

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it was funny because Ruby and I
were out doing an investigation over around where

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were we at Morris Bridge Road outside
of Tampa and come back to my Oh

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it was Chris. Came back to
the car and there was a teeny tiny

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little bigfoot figurine that was left by
my door handle on my window, and

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I'm like, what is this?
And then truck pulls up. He's like,

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hey, I saw your bigfoot stickers
and I thought i'd leave your presence.

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So he was a park ranger.
So then we started talking. We

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talked to him for like an hour
and a half, sharing stories, things

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he's heard, things we've heard,
just compared notes. Amazing stuff, absolutely

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amazing. It's and so we're good
friends with him now, which is awesome.

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And some of the there's been reports
around outside of Tampa in his area,

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and he's heard of three reports of
a whitish grayish bigfoot been seen,

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and so one of the reports is
a lady in my group. And then

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another guy in my group came forward
with a similar story. So I told

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the park ranger that, So now
he knows that there's four reports of a

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whitish, grayish bigfoot that's been seen
outside of Tampa in the swamps, and

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it's been most of the reports have
been in a ditch off the side of

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the road, a very busy road, but it's been very early morning hours

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that they've been seeing. So it's
fun to be friends with a park ranger

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guy who can get that information.
I asked him, I said, what

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do you guys do with the information? If somebody tells you a bigfoot story

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or report, what do you do
with it? Do you report it to

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your superiors or whatever? And he's
like, yeah, we tell them,

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but nothing's ever done as you know, anything that said. But he himself,

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you know, keeps his stored up
here because he's totally into all that.

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And and then you know, he'll
tell me stuff that as it reported

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or as it happens or whatever.
So that's a that's a good connection to

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have. Yeah, that's the kind
of that's the kind of guy we all

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need to have. Absolutely reminds me
of like John Hickinbottom from Salt Fork State

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Park. He's a naturalist, up
there. But he's also totally into bigfoot.

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He's a great guy. I know
he listens. Have you ever heard

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a report or an account from someone
where if it happened to you, you

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would probably not be going back out
into the field. Oh yeah, I've

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heard all those kind of stories before, you know. I I'm sure it's

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possible, you know, I mean, but I'm also not that fearful.

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So even though I've had other creepy, weird things happen, and when I

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was a paranormal investigator, you know, maybe I'm a little more immune to

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weird stuff. But again, I've
never had one walk up to me.

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I'm hoping someday I'll see you one
walk in front of me at least.

404
00:37:30.840 --> 00:37:35.400
But there's a lot of people are
very fearful. Just the thought of bigfoot

405
00:37:35.599 --> 00:37:38.840
is scary to them, and then
if they see anything, you know,

406
00:37:38.880 --> 00:37:43.199
they're just going to freak out.
I'm not that way. I'm not that

407
00:37:43.280 --> 00:37:45.760
kind of person. Yeah, I
think that's a good discussion to have,

408
00:37:45.800 --> 00:37:51.000
because I know that I see that
come up in other places. And do

409
00:37:51.079 --> 00:37:55.360
you think it's something that we need
to be afraid of whatever this creature is,

410
00:37:55.559 --> 00:38:01.480
or maybe it's something else we should
have maybe a healthy respect. Well,

411
00:38:01.519 --> 00:38:04.960
I think we need to have a
healthy respect, but we also have

412
00:38:05.079 --> 00:38:09.159
to protect ourselves. You know,
we have to stay on alert because they're

413
00:38:09.159 --> 00:38:14.320
all creatures, right, we don't
know what they're doing, what they're thinking,

414
00:38:14.519 --> 00:38:19.119
what they're thinking about us. You
know, I'm sure they're scared of

415
00:38:19.199 --> 00:38:23.760
humans, right. You know,
they know we kill animals, they know

416
00:38:23.960 --> 00:38:30.760
we tear down trees. You know, we're not a very pleasant species,

417
00:38:30.679 --> 00:38:36.599
and we're destroying their habitat, you
know. And here in Florida there's development

418
00:38:36.760 --> 00:38:45.960
going up all over the place,
and there's places that you know, they've

419
00:38:45.000 --> 00:38:51.000
become landlocked. Like there'll be a
swamp and then they'll be housing communities all

420
00:38:51.039 --> 00:38:55.199
around the swamp. Right, So
then the creatures in the swamp, you

421
00:38:55.239 --> 00:39:00.199
know, they just they live there. They can't go anywhere without being seen

422
00:39:00.239 --> 00:39:07.639
because their developments houses everywhere. So
we've really messed up to their habitat.

423
00:39:08.280 --> 00:39:15.079
Their food supplies have been affected,
and it's just that good. So you

424
00:39:15.119 --> 00:39:19.320
know, these are big creatures.
It's just like you know, you see

425
00:39:19.360 --> 00:39:22.840
an alligator, you're not You shouldn't
go up to an alligator to try and

426
00:39:22.880 --> 00:39:29.599
pet it because most likely that thing
is going to attack to you because it's

427
00:39:29.639 --> 00:39:34.760
going to it's thinking that you're attacking
him. So you just need to have

428
00:39:34.800 --> 00:39:40.199
a healthy respect for these animals,
these creatures. Be on alert and protect

429
00:39:40.199 --> 00:39:45.440
yourself, carey protection if you feel
you need that. You know, it's

430
00:39:45.559 --> 00:39:51.920
just the best way to go about
that. Have there been any reports of

431
00:39:52.400 --> 00:40:00.639
bigfoot or skunkpe being seen in areas
where it's development speak because the developments were

432
00:40:00.719 --> 00:40:07.840
made just on the edge of of
a you know, swamp area or habitat.

433
00:40:09.480 --> 00:40:14.800
Yeah, exactly. Well, our
active research area is in one of

434
00:40:14.840 --> 00:40:21.239
those areas that's very land. You
know, it's totally surrounded by developments.

435
00:40:21.320 --> 00:40:28.159
So you have this big swamp and
that's where we have a lot of activity

436
00:40:28.480 --> 00:40:31.239
going on. And when I say
activity, you know we you know,

437
00:40:31.480 --> 00:40:36.440
we have some stuff that we you
know, we leave gifts, we leave

438
00:40:36.480 --> 00:40:39.599
toys, we leave experiments out there. You know, we just want to

439
00:40:39.639 --> 00:40:45.559
see what happens. We've had all
kinds of crazy stuff happened. You know.

440
00:40:45.679 --> 00:40:53.039
One of the things is we brought
a teddy bear and the teddy bear

441
00:40:53.239 --> 00:41:00.440
had you know, normal stuffed animals
have a white tag hanging off right,

442
00:41:00.119 --> 00:41:05.119
and it's impossible to tear it off. You normally have to use scissors to

443
00:41:05.159 --> 00:41:12.239
do it. And so when we
put that out for the first time a

444
00:41:12.320 --> 00:41:15.000
couple of years ago, we put
it out, we'll go back to the

445
00:41:15.079 --> 00:41:19.599
area like once a month, every
four to six weeks, we just see

446
00:41:19.639 --> 00:41:22.519
what's new, what's going on.
The teddy bear has been moved. It's

447
00:41:22.599 --> 00:41:30.840
laying on the ground. Face first. The tag was ripped off the teddy

448
00:41:30.880 --> 00:41:38.039
bear and then ripped in half.
So it did two things, ripped it

449
00:41:38.079 --> 00:41:45.400
off and then ripped a tag in
half. You know how hard it is

450
00:41:45.440 --> 00:41:50.599
to rip one of those tags off
a stuffed animal and then try to rip

451
00:41:50.639 --> 00:41:53.320
it in half. It's very,
very, very difficult. But that's what

452
00:41:53.480 --> 00:42:00.679
happened. So every single time we
go out there, we'll put the teddy

453
00:42:00.679 --> 00:42:06.360
bear. We put the teddy bear
facing out, We'll put it up against

454
00:42:06.400 --> 00:42:09.440
a big cypress tree. We'll just
kind of like wedget down there, and

455
00:42:09.719 --> 00:42:15.280
every single time we go out there
check on it. Four weeks later,

456
00:42:16.239 --> 00:42:22.400
it's always turned around. It's always
moved and turned around, so its face

457
00:42:22.679 --> 00:42:27.880
is up against the tree kind of
like it doesn't like it. It's like

458
00:42:27.920 --> 00:42:32.679
a little game that we play.
We fix it and it changes it every

459
00:42:32.719 --> 00:42:37.400
single time. Now people are like, well, do you put trail cams

460
00:42:37.440 --> 00:42:45.039
out there, which we all know
if you're a bigfoot researcher, we know

461
00:42:45.199 --> 00:42:50.159
that trail cams do not work.
And sure enough, the moment I put

462
00:42:50.199 --> 00:42:54.920
out trail cams, all activity stopped, everything absolutely stopped. And then we're

463
00:42:54.960 --> 00:42:59.079
like, this is ridiculous. We
can't do this, so we remove the

464
00:42:59.119 --> 00:43:04.880
trail cams. Now everything's back to
normal. We get activity all the time.

465
00:43:05.000 --> 00:43:12.360
We have found prints out there.
We've had a chicken egg shell left

466
00:43:12.400 --> 00:43:21.639
on top of a cypress knee,
crazy stuff. Sticks shoved in the ground

467
00:43:21.679 --> 00:43:27.599
at thirty degree angles, three sticks
laid parallel next to each other on the

468
00:43:27.599 --> 00:43:35.360
ground across the stick. We've had
big sticks that have been bent around trees

469
00:43:35.519 --> 00:43:43.000
and secured. That's not normal.
Treefall branches don't do that when they fall

470
00:43:43.039 --> 00:43:51.840
straight down. They don't bend themselves
and ledge themselves very tightly around other trees.

471
00:43:52.239 --> 00:44:00.280
Just insane stuff, absolutely insane stuff. There's some really weird stuff happening

472
00:44:00.280 --> 00:44:06.960
in that area. And I'm familiar
with the you know when you talk about

473
00:44:07.360 --> 00:44:09.920
gifting, you know, I've talked
to a lot of researchers about that.

474
00:44:10.079 --> 00:44:16.559
But you mentioned doing like experiments,
and that's kind of a new a new

475
00:44:17.480 --> 00:44:23.239
thought to have for me. Is
that like what you did with a teddy

476
00:44:23.239 --> 00:44:28.039
bear or does that involve other things
you were doing when you talk about experience,

477
00:44:28.079 --> 00:44:31.599
Yeah, teddy Bear is one of
them. Another thing is I brought

478
00:44:31.679 --> 00:44:37.159
up a bun some rocks and I
put them in a circle, and I

479
00:44:37.199 --> 00:44:39.320
had a blue rock in the center
of it. I wanted to see if

480
00:44:39.400 --> 00:44:46.800
they would stack them, because stacking
rocks seems to be a Northern thing,

481
00:44:49.079 --> 00:44:54.159
Like some researchers in Minnesota, even
maybe in the Pacific Northwest will find the

482
00:44:54.320 --> 00:44:59.480
stacks of rocks and these streams and
stuff like that. Yeah, we're thinking

483
00:44:59.519 --> 00:45:07.960
of the same in Minnesota. Yeah
right, yeah, that sounds so I

484
00:45:07.280 --> 00:45:10.119
put the rocks. Now, this
is gonna sound really weird, but we

485
00:45:10.159 --> 00:45:16.840
don't have that many rocks in Florida. Okay, all right, it's shells,

486
00:45:16.960 --> 00:45:22.199
it's you know, just stuff.
We don't have these nice river rocks

487
00:45:22.320 --> 00:45:27.159
that you'll find in a stream up
north from the Pacific Northwest or even in

488
00:45:27.239 --> 00:45:31.159
the Carolinas. So but I had
some and I'm like, what the heck,

489
00:45:31.559 --> 00:45:35.360
I put them out. I want
to see if they stack them.

490
00:45:35.719 --> 00:45:40.920
They've never done anything with the rocks. I also put out an experiment.

491
00:45:42.679 --> 00:45:50.880
Somebody had recommended this. As I'm
painted, I took these paint sticks,

492
00:45:51.760 --> 00:45:55.719
painted them, like three of them
red. I painted three of them yellow

493
00:45:55.719 --> 00:46:00.719
and three of them green. So
I laid out three of the and I

494
00:46:00.840 --> 00:46:06.960
put a food item on top of
that, and then I just piled up

495
00:46:06.960 --> 00:46:10.840
the sticks next to it. I
want to see if it's going to copy

496
00:46:12.000 --> 00:46:16.199
what I did. And that's a
new thing that I've done. I've tried.

497
00:46:16.360 --> 00:46:21.039
So far, nothing has happened.
Sticks have been moved a little bit,

498
00:46:21.639 --> 00:46:24.199
but not substantial, not enough to
say, oh, yeah, this

499
00:46:24.360 --> 00:46:30.320
is really interesting. But we're just
trying these different little experiments just to see

500
00:46:30.800 --> 00:46:35.239
what they do. If they'll do
anything, you know, we don't know

501
00:46:35.400 --> 00:46:39.039
it's worth trying, right. So
it's all fascinating. But the Teddy Bear

502
00:46:39.079 --> 00:46:44.880
is the biggest experiment and it's the
most fascinating one. It's fun. It's

503
00:46:44.920 --> 00:46:46.760
like a game. Like I said, it's like we turn it, we

504
00:46:47.559 --> 00:46:52.679
correct it, it turns it around. We correct it, it turns it

505
00:46:52.760 --> 00:47:00.960
around. So it's really interesting.
Are you do you keep your Facebook group

506
00:47:00.679 --> 00:47:08.559
up to date with the things that
happened from your experiments or oh well I

507
00:47:08.599 --> 00:47:15.159
did with the Teddy Bear. I
posted that on I think Monday. I

508
00:47:15.199 --> 00:47:22.800
did even like a side by side
comparison, just to show you that this

509
00:47:22.840 --> 00:47:25.119
is what it looked like three weeks
ago when we put it out, this

510
00:47:25.199 --> 00:47:30.320
is what it looked like when we
went out there. And we also have

511
00:47:30.400 --> 00:47:37.039
done like some videos on YouTube about
it, and I'm going to keep track

512
00:47:37.079 --> 00:47:45.599
of it more. We have a
app that Chris created for us that allows

513
00:47:45.719 --> 00:47:55.400
us to dot to track, to
capture document everything that we find and the

514
00:47:55.519 --> 00:48:00.719
location where we found it, so
that you know, we could put it

515
00:48:00.840 --> 00:48:06.599
on a map. We can see
what areas are more active certain times of

516
00:48:06.639 --> 00:48:09.960
the year. Okay, so we
have our own like database right where we're

517
00:48:10.079 --> 00:48:15.519
you know, documenting, documenting if
we find a print, if we find

518
00:48:15.519 --> 00:48:19.800
a structure, if we hear a
sound, a knock, whatever. So

519
00:48:19.880 --> 00:48:22.639
we have our own little database where
we're just keeping track of all this stuff

520
00:48:23.079 --> 00:48:28.800
for future reference. Like I said, so we could identify what places are

521
00:48:29.679 --> 00:48:36.079
hot certain times of the year.
So that's that's great that you you are

522
00:48:36.159 --> 00:48:39.480
doing it. It sounds like you
probably have data from a lot of different

523
00:48:40.039 --> 00:48:44.840
parts of Florida. Yes, since
you guys are you know, going to

524
00:48:45.280 --> 00:48:52.960
multiple different places. But have you
ever thought or what is your thought as

525
00:48:52.039 --> 00:49:00.280
to what bigfoot actually is? I
know there's there's many different viewpoints in the

526
00:49:00.320 --> 00:49:07.320
community about what we are dealing with. Obviously, ah, you know,

527
00:49:09.079 --> 00:49:15.840
a primate creature, I truly flesh
and blood. But I really think that

528
00:49:17.000 --> 00:49:24.159
they have special abilities that we would
consider to be paranormal. Does that makes

529
00:49:24.199 --> 00:49:32.159
sense? Okay, So let's say
the ability to cloak for humans that would

530
00:49:32.199 --> 00:49:40.440
be supernatural, the ability to disappear. Right, So there's orbs associated with

531
00:49:40.559 --> 00:49:47.400
bigfoot sightings. You know, we've
had EVPs happen while we've been you know,

532
00:49:47.599 --> 00:49:53.639
out bigfooting. But I so maybe
it's possible. You know, just

533
00:49:53.679 --> 00:49:58.400
think a chameleons. You know,
if you would have told somebody two hundred

534
00:49:58.480 --> 00:50:01.440
years ago, Yeah, there's a
million that if it stands on a blue

535
00:50:01.599 --> 00:50:07.000
piece of paper, it'll turn blue. They think you're crazy, right,

536
00:50:07.480 --> 00:50:12.960
But look at chameleons. They have
their masters of camouflage. Whatever they stand

537
00:50:13.079 --> 00:50:20.079
on, their skin will change the
color to match it. So bigfoots could

538
00:50:20.199 --> 00:50:23.920
very well have something like that.
It's interesting to think about. I think

539
00:50:23.960 --> 00:50:30.800
there's also some octopus that are able
to do that as well. Absolutely,

540
00:50:30.400 --> 00:50:35.880
yes, they'll change their skin color
to match the rocks, the corel that

541
00:50:36.079 --> 00:50:40.719
they're on. I mean to imagine
a creature the size of a bigfoot having

542
00:50:40.760 --> 00:50:46.719
the ability to maybe kind of be
like a chameleon in a sort of way.

543
00:50:47.760 --> 00:50:52.719
That's even more frightening to me.
I mean, a massive animal that

544
00:50:52.760 --> 00:50:57.840
could just blend into anything. Yeah, it's pretty wild to think about,

545
00:50:58.039 --> 00:51:00.280
but I don't it's not out of
the question. I don't think anything's happened

546
00:51:00.639 --> 00:51:06.079
the question. Anything's possible. Maybe
they can't turn a certain way in their

547
00:51:06.159 --> 00:51:12.239
hair and make it look like they
disappear, you know, like a gilli

548
00:51:12.320 --> 00:51:16.719
suit or something. I don't.
I don't know, but I do believe

549
00:51:16.760 --> 00:51:21.840
they do have special abilities that,
like I said, we would consider paranormal.

550
00:51:22.360 --> 00:51:28.239
Absolutely. Have you have you done
any research outside of Florida or are

551
00:51:28.239 --> 00:51:34.760
you just sticking inside the state so
far. I'll research wherever I go.

552
00:51:35.199 --> 00:51:43.480
So I did some research in Utah
when I went to Phenomicon, the Phenomicon

553
00:51:43.679 --> 00:51:49.239
conference over in Vernal, Utah,
and I met up with a bigfoot researcher

554
00:51:49.360 --> 00:51:54.960
there and he took us out into
the forests outside of Vernal, and yeah,

555
00:51:55.000 --> 00:52:00.639
sure enough I found a tepee structure. Amazing, amazing, And it

556
00:52:00.719 --> 00:52:07.800
was so crazy that we were driving
down the road and I saw I was

557
00:52:07.800 --> 00:52:12.679
looking at some bushes and I was
looking through the bushes and I saw some

558
00:52:13.840 --> 00:52:15.480
stick, some clusters, and I
said, stop the car, stop the

559
00:52:15.480 --> 00:52:17.800
car, And they're like what I
said, I need to go over here

560
00:52:17.800 --> 00:52:21.800
and take a look. I get
out of the car, go take the

561
00:52:21.880 --> 00:52:25.760
look behind the bushes. Sure enough, there's a tepee structure. And it

562
00:52:25.880 --> 00:52:32.079
was just incredible. So I found
a tepee structure and a one area that

563
00:52:32.199 --> 00:52:39.639
had a lot of arches. Didn't
see any prints, but the tepee structure

564
00:52:39.840 --> 00:52:46.679
was the coolest thing that I found
over there in Utah. And I'm hoping

565
00:52:46.719 --> 00:52:51.760
to go again and go back in
the woods over there and take a look

566
00:52:51.760 --> 00:52:54.320
around a little bit more so.
But yeah, if I'm in Tennessee,

567
00:52:54.480 --> 00:53:00.719
I'll go. You know, I'll
take whatever time I can get to go

568
00:53:00.960 --> 00:53:05.079
exploring. I'll go out on my
own. I'll drag around, or I'll

569
00:53:05.159 --> 00:53:09.079
just get on the car and just
start walking. So is Vernal out by?

570
00:53:09.400 --> 00:53:14.320
Is that by the you went to
Basin at all? Yes, that's

571
00:53:14.559 --> 00:53:17.880
Skillwalker Ranches. Okay, I had. I was like, I have a

572
00:53:17.880 --> 00:53:22.880
feeling it's close. Wow, that's
really interesting. I know those guys are

573
00:53:22.920 --> 00:53:25.719
all involved with phenomenon, at least
they have been in the last year or

574
00:53:25.760 --> 00:53:30.039
two. But were you able to
go out in that area at all or

575
00:53:34.679 --> 00:53:37.320
to go to the ranch? Right? No, I wish you can't just

576
00:53:37.320 --> 00:53:44.079
walk? Yeah? Who wouldn't want
to go to Skinwalker Ranch? Right,

577
00:53:44.280 --> 00:53:50.440
I don't know I would. I've
been to the gate. Yeah, I've

578
00:53:50.480 --> 00:53:52.519
been to the gate. Okay,
I've been to the gates. Cool.

579
00:53:52.960 --> 00:53:58.800
Yeah, So I don't know that
that freaks me out with the whole uh

580
00:53:58.840 --> 00:54:06.920
Thomas Winterton stuff he went through with
is yes, he had some serious cranial

581
00:54:07.000 --> 00:54:12.039
things going on aste. Yeah,
I had. I walked up. The

582
00:54:12.119 --> 00:54:15.280
reason why I got to go to
the gate was I was on I took

583
00:54:15.360 --> 00:54:21.559
a I paid for a tour perimeter
tour of Skinwalker Ranch where you drive around

584
00:54:21.639 --> 00:54:25.440
the bus with some of the cast
members from the show. So I had

585
00:54:25.519 --> 00:54:31.480
Dragon on my bus at one point, and then I had Thomas. And

586
00:54:31.559 --> 00:54:37.280
Dragon is hilarious on the show.
He's all tough and looks mean and stuff,

587
00:54:37.320 --> 00:54:44.719
but he's the funniest guy on all
the team and he's a coot.

588
00:54:44.880 --> 00:54:49.960
He's hilarious and Thomas is wonderful too, So they switched off, so we

589
00:54:50.079 --> 00:54:53.199
got to hang around and go around
with both. But part of the thing

590
00:54:53.400 --> 00:55:00.760
is they park they allow you to
walk up to the gate that's as far

591
00:55:00.800 --> 00:55:05.519
as you can get. And then
doctor Travis Taylor met us at the gate

592
00:55:05.679 --> 00:55:07.840
on the other side. He pulled
up in his red cheep and so he

593
00:55:07.960 --> 00:55:15.159
was talking to us through the gates
and yeah, which was which was a

594
00:55:15.159 --> 00:55:17.760
lot of fun. So yeah,
I love I love it there. I

595
00:55:17.840 --> 00:55:22.519
love Vernal, but the forest is
wonderful. Lots of sasquatch reports, there

596
00:55:23.280 --> 00:55:31.719
absolutely in the woods, the forests
outside of Bernal, lots of sasquatch reports.

597
00:55:32.199 --> 00:55:39.440
How far aways are those forests and
woods from the ranch area, I

598
00:55:39.480 --> 00:55:45.119
don't know. I would probably get
about maybe twenty miles, Yeah, probably,

599
00:55:45.559 --> 00:55:49.239
I just I just love And this
is where it's the end of the

600
00:55:49.280 --> 00:55:52.840
show where we're kind of rabbit trailing
and it's all right because it's Locker ranch.

601
00:55:52.920 --> 00:55:55.920
But I love the old story about
how they see the portal open up

602
00:55:55.960 --> 00:56:00.159
and the big Foot type creature comes
out of the poor all on Skinwalker Ranch

603
00:56:00.199 --> 00:56:05.719
says, that's one of my favorite
anecdotal stories. Yes, and I mean

604
00:56:05.760 --> 00:56:12.360
you can only imagine and hope that
there would be more bigfoot stories at some

605
00:56:12.599 --> 00:56:16.360
point on that property. I mean, I don't know, but hey,

606
00:56:16.400 --> 00:56:22.400
if anyone listening knows, let me
know. I think they actually one of

607
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the guys, he's one of the
ute deputies, the first guys. I

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think he even captured a vocalization out
there of a big foot, so a

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sasquatch. So it's fascinating. But
and when we go to Medaling Falls,

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we're going to be spending a week
there, so we're going we're going to

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be going out in the woods every
single day. We have some researchers who

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want to meet up with us and
take us out, which is awesome.

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We know nothing about the area.
I was going to say, hopefully you

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got some some local researchers. It's
going to be a little bit different than

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Florida, for sure. Absolutely,
it's going to kill us because we're used

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to flat land, not mountains.
But it's going to be a wonderful time

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and we're hoping. We already have
plans to meet up with a few researchers

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who want to take us out or
they want to meet us for lunch or

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dinners. So it'll be great.
It'll be really awesome. That's very cool,

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U, Maria. I want to
say thank you for for hanging out

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and talking about Bigfoot in skun capes
down in Florida. You're okay with hanging

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out for a little bit longer to
chat about I mean, you've got some

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other paranormal stuff that's in your life, and I think we want to definitely

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chat about that in the members only
Strange Days portion. But yeah, I

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just want to say thank you so
much for coming on. Thank you for

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having me. It's been such an
honor. Thank you, special thank you

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to Marie Dumont for coming on the
podcast. Stay tuned for sneak peek from

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the Strange Days after show portion of
this episode. It was very funny,

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very damp. He was by himself. He just went on one trail and

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he was just buzzing down the road
on his e bike and the first thing

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he encountered was he was hearing bells
tones and then he felt a electric charge.

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He's kind of freaked out. Now. He's just kind of like taking

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photos while he's riding the bike and
he captured something that looks standing in the

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I can get out of here.
We can tell our stories. Maybe there's

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somebody else out there listening it's too
afraid to tell their story. Maybe this

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will give them the courage to come
out and now feel so bad about it.

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Who cares what anybody's thinks. I
know what I saw, I know

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what's out there. That's all I
care. Please let people know, Please

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let them know. If you ever
see one of these things, you need

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to tell, because if you don't, then shame on you. You know,

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shame on you,