Finding Bigfoot in New Hampshire with Aleks Petakov

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0:45 You're listening to an episode of Bigfoot Society recorded more than three years ago. Interviewing skills in audio quality have improved since then. Please don't judge the podcast on this one episode. All right, thanks for coming back. This is Jeremiah with the Bigfoot Society podcast and we have the privilege of having Alex Pettakoff from Pettacough Media with us. Alex, thanks for coming on. Yeah, thanks for having me on. Man, how you doing doing well? Doing well? And I mean this is as real as it gets because you are directly back from the woods. Can I right? I was just out there. Yeah, I was just out in this area that had some strange activity in the past. But we can talk about that in a little bit.

1:27 Very cool, Very cool. Do you mind starting out by making maybe doing a quick synopsis of who it is you are and what it is that you do. Sure. My name is Alex Petakov. I am a documentary filmmaker, sort of a cryptid researcher. And I say researcher in the sense that I sort of researched the subject, the cryptosology, so I'm not necessarily trying to find DNA evidence to prove something is real or not. I'm just I like all aspects of it, and that includes getting into individual subjects, whether it's through documentaries or writing about it or just doing research in general. So yeah, that's basically it. I'm a filmmaker, adventurer, I love the outdoors. I am a big hiker as well, so I've just always had the I always had a good time out in the woods, and I think cryptosology, looking for bigfoot, that sort of stuff. It goes hand in hand with just being out and enjoying nature. That's awesome. That is very cool. You've done a few really cool docum I'm sure you've done many cool documentaries, but the ones I'm familiar with are your champ documentary. Very cool.

2:35 If you want to hear more about that, definitely listen to the Cryptic Campfire episode that you were on. If you don't listen to those guys, you should. That was a great episode. And you've got an awesome documentary about mountain lions in the Northeast. Correct. Yeah, that's my latest documentary. Feature documentary about mountain lions and mystery big cats in the New England area. Just sort of released right as the whole COVID things started in March. So it was unfortunate timing because the premiere got canceled and like four screenings I had planned for the spring were canceled as well. So we're hoping actually have an actual premiere on the point during the summer and then from there, oh wow, it's in't so we were. We were checking it out a bit ago, and I want to make sure if people are going to watch the trailer the documentary it gets there. It's graphic in there. There's a warning at the beginning where it's like, hey, there are going to be images, and I was like, oh, yeah, okay, and no it gets a little graphic and I look over in my four year old it's like oh dad, and I'm like no, no, but hey, you did your due diligence and the warning is there. So if that doesn't make you go check it out, you need to go check it out, guys.

3:53 Yeah. And it's nothing, nothing too scary. It's just nature. It's basically if you've see the Bad Nature documentary, you know, lion ripping a part of zebra. It's nothing worse than that. Yeah, totally, totally. So let's see your history. You have kind of been in different parts of the world, is that correct? I grew up in other country and yeah, so I was actually born in South Africa. That's where my parents went to in the nineties when their home country of Yugoslavia Southeast Europe started falling apart during a civil war there that lasted a while, so they kind of went to South Africa for a little bit. South Africa was as well, transitioning politically from apartheid to sort of a more democratic system. Even though it's still a bit shaky to this day. And I was born there. We didn't stay very long. I was very young when we left became the United States. South Africa just became very dangerous. They were talking about it possibly being a war there too, so that's the last thing they needed after just escaping another war. Beautiful country. I've only been back once. I wish to go back again someday, hopefully if it down a bit. But uh yeah, so that's my history. I kind of came over the US.

5:03 I've been in the US since then, sort of grew up always kind of traveling around and really interested in exploring different cultures and different areas of the world. And I think cryptozoology is always kind of fit into that a little bit, because every corner of the world or anywhere I go, I'm always looking for those local legends. It's there, it's there. Yeah, Oh man, that's universal. Humans all have stories of strange creatures or legends, mythology. I mean, since people have been living in unorganized societies, even you know, cave all sorts of stuff to seek out the unknown. Definitely around and tell the stories around the campfire. It's so great, right, uh you so your base currently is in New England. Yeah, so I'm New Hampshire, sort of Austin area. That's you know, most people think New Hampshire all Europe and up on the mountain. I am often up on a mountain, but I am closer to the Boston area and that's sort of New England small, so you can get around pretty quickly. So I say kind of New England based because I'm often moving around different parts of New England.

6:10 The pictures you're putting up on Instagram, I mean, you're not kidding when you're saying you're climbing mountains. This is crazy stuff, like stuff where it's like if you take her on step you are you're falling off into oblivion. Like I mean, you do some some wild stuff and it does it look like you do drone work as well? Is that true? Yeah? So I do, you know, kind of just my own photography on the side. I've always been interested in that and going to these natural, beautiful locations lends itself perfectly to always having a camera or something on me and whether it's trying to do some night photography or a drone. A couple of mountains I recently hiked, I just the good conditions. We didn't have much wind. Usually there's a lot of wind. We have pretty bad weather up in the White Mountains and a lot of the mountains here, so you oftentimes get winds that will blow you right off. So a drone, yeah, a couple of times, you know, you get you get lucky, and then you see a lot of wildlife that sort of stuff. And one of the hikes I just did, actually I just posted about it. It's called the Watcher and it's right actually near in Franconia Notch, which is beautiful little kind of highway goes right through the area where Betting Barney Hill abduction happened. Actually, you know, definitely, Yeah, part of their encounter was in that notch, and it was something called the Watcher, And it's this cliff face that if you look at it from a certain angle, it has like a face and it's actually directly across the highway from the Old Man of the Mountain.

7:30 It's famous for unfortunately he passed off off the rock in like two thousand and three. So this is they call her the Old Woman of the Mountain, the Old Wow Mountain, or the Watcher. But it was some of the gnarliest train getting up there. We had pretty much, you know, almost a vertical at one point rock slides. Uh, there was a way around it we didn't see and we went straight up and I'm like, this is if if this was any steeper, we would have need rock climbing gear. Basically, No, you were totally you were almost there. Like you might have seen that on Instagram that I posted. Yeah, but it was yeah, still plot twist. I don't know if I've ever told you. I actually grew up in New England. So I think a little town called Northfield, Massachusetts, which is you know, right where for Montnehamshire and mass meet in that area, and that's that's the area the Berkshires and stuff is out there, and you're not too far from Keene. I can imagine Keen.

8:31 Yeah, Keene is where you go to to get a job. It's a little it's well, it's a it's a big college town in the middle of the mountains. Nothing around it. Famous for the Pumpkin Festival and the riots that that is true and the filming of Jumanji starring Run Yeah, you can still see the pair of shoes up on the wall, the mural that they had painted, but so awesome. I love the The Madame Cherie Forest is real close there as well, and there's this kind of ruins there, and you can climb up on these cliffs that have a great view of the Connecticut River and you can see Brittleboro, Vermont, right from that cliff. And that's yeah, yeah, Pisga Forest or something like that. Yes, yep, beautiful area. Oh my goodness. Yeah. So you said, is the southern New Hampshire that you're based out of. Yes, yeah, southern New Hampshire, so where most people in New Hampshire live. New Hampshire's kind of funny because it's sort of the same shape as Vermont, just flipped the other way. We kind of joke around we're very similar in that way, but we have twice the population. We're about a million one point three million.

9:35 So most of southern New Hampshire's people who work in the Boston area northern Massachusetts, and there's just a lot more in southern ne Hampshire than you have Middle New Hampshire, which is kind of the Lakes region, and then a little bit of the White Mountain region, and then you have Kowas County, the northern part which is most of the White Mountains, and then the Great North Woods, which is by far the least populated area of the state, and that's where all the hiking there. Yeah, yeah, that's that's the area that it's just filled with moose. I mean, there's some areas that have more moose than people. Shout out to Colebrook, New Hampshire if you haven't been to Colebrook. I was just there last week. Yeah. Oh my goodness. They have the place where you can get your motorcycle blessed at the shrine. Oh really, I didn't know it's a big deal. But no. I mean I remember going up there as a young kid on family vacations and we were literally be driving at dusk. We saw twelve thirteen moose in an hour, very big deal, and there'd be things where I remember my Dad's driving down the road, this moose comes out of nowhere, comes right towards us, and it's like you had to throw it into reverse because so many people die a year with the moose going over the top of the car and get squishing, the people crazy and then you hit one of those.

10:46 It's just not We saw nine between two days and we were up near Pittsburgh, so we were supposed to have a wedding actually pre Corona days, we were supposed to have a wedding that week. So we decided to still use that time. And they had just opened up Airbnb's and that sort of stuff for New Hampshire is it. So we're like, you know, let's just go up north for a little bit and hung out for a couple of days and drove on the famous Moose Alley which goes from Pittsburgh to the Canadian border and that's like the largest concentration of moose in that area. And we drove some of the gnarly logging back roads that go into Maine. Oh wow, really, I got like a nail on my tire I recently. I just had to get that fixed. Buddy, you're taking your life in your hands man, done Fundler style. I love those areas though. Driving that kind of stuff in Maine in New Hampshire is is just so cool because you're there's nobody around you for for such a long time and you get to see some If you don't have a four wheel driver a truck, you pretty much can't get to some of these spots either. You're as my as my kids say, you're done, Zoe Lorenzo, I have no idea how it came up with that, but he's hilarious. That's great. So you've got a really cool opportunity because when I was out there, I wasn't really into like the bigfoot stuff, encryptid stuff a lot. It kind of clicked when I was so I moved out to Central Iowa, right, that's where I am now. But you're like, you're out in the middle of some crazy stuff because I remember well, so I grew up at a summer camp. We

12:18 did a lot of hiking. So I've done a lot of hiking up with my dad on the Appalachian Trail, you know, Connecticut, Massachusetts, and there's times when you're in the middle of those forests and you can feel something watching you. And at the time, the worst I could think of, what's the mountain lion could have been but it could have been something else, you know, I wasn't thinking could be Bigfoot. You don't know what's out in those woods, Like it gets deep and dark, and I don't know if you've been in the area. So Franklin County, Massachusetts, where I'm from, there's some places you can go like Warwick, Massachusetts, or like the Satan's Kingdom part Oh yeah, further Vermont, it gets wild and wild and like you go like far western Massachusetts out in the Berkshires. Man, it's wild country. Got to check those out, Like, oh, sorry, let me know if you got a text. So I almost almost said something. But so I'm doing a thing where I'm doing commentary on on the trail of UFOs. I didn't know you were in it, and I'll come out of nowhere and I didn't know this this side. Do you do you mind sharing the story where I didn't know you guys had like the sightings of you know that that UFO, Like I would love to hear that story directly from me. That's really cool. It's down absolutely right. Yeah it was.

13:50 It was like central western Pennsylvania is the best way I can describe it. A place near a place called do Boys. Man. It was. It was never really that into the UFO stuff. Really, I'd always kind of have been interested in peripherally. I was much more on the crypto side of things, bigfoot lockness Champ. So there. I have a couple of really good friends here in the New England area, who are colleagues of mine as well. They do paranormal research, Paul and Benino. They have a radio show out of Rhode Island called Behind the Paranormal, and they've been like a father father son duo. They've been investigating this stuff for decades. I mean Paul trained with or I guess kind of worked with Ed and Lorraine Warren back in the day and has been in it since like the sixties and seventies.

14:33 I mean, the guy's an old timer. He's really been his stuff, and his son's worked with him, and they have had this show and they have a pretty big following. And one of their readers contacted them about an area they were researching Connecticut, which was like one of these kind of flap areas as they call them, where there seemed to be totally high strangeness creatures and UFOs strange things. One of the readers contacted somebody they knew, and somehow it got down to them and they started going out to this area in Pennsylvania to investigate this proper pretty where people were claiming to have tons of activity. So they had been for five or six years, and I came on in twenty eighteen we'll be back with more Bigfoot Society after these words from our sponsors. Yeah, twenty eighteen was the first year I actually went, so I've been twice so far. What primarily interested me was the bigfoot stuff.

15:22 So they said that there were people on the property who had seen bigfoot O Man, one of our group members claimed to have seen when they're as well, who wasn't really into the bigfoot stuff. So that was kind of interesting. But I went into it kind of thinking, you know, this flap area stuff, I don't really know. It doesn't really sound very scientific to me. It sounds kind of maybe I was a little more closed off to it. So we went into it the first year and we interviewed three generations of a family that was having bigfoot activity in their property. I'm like, are we generations? Yeah? So there was a mother, her son, and then his daughter, and they all lived in this htile area that was near a wooded ravine. But the thing is their property was down towards the ravine in the woods up the hill. Three or four other houses were all their other relatives. Now, the relatives at the top of the house were seeing shadow people in another area they were seeing pos and the people in the area report seeing black helicopters, strange things in the sky, glowing lights, all sorts of stuff. So the first year we saw like a glowing red orb in the woods, just for like a few seconds. I didn't really think too much of it. It was just kind of weird. At the time, we sort of thought, well, you know, if we'd gotten a better look at it, we could have figured out what it was.

16:27 And then it wasn't until twenty nineteen, so about a year ago exactly, we were back there. It was end of May, and we had all been split up in different parts of the property just examining it, doing kind of night investigations, hanging out. What we would do is we'd go for three or four days and then we'd have a town hall meeting and meet with locals and ask them about their sightings. And that's where we'd find out a lot about the Bigfoot stuff. So, like I said, that's more I was mostly interested in the bigfood stuff. It was a perfect night, though, we decided to all go up to the top of the house there the property that we were staying at, where they had a little kind of fire pit. We could just sit and watch the stars. You know, we were all watching the stars, and it was after midnight at one point that there was not a single cloud in the sky, perfect star cover.

17:10 There was this what appeared to be a cloud that had like an illumination light in it started just moving in slow motion, and at first I was like, well, that cloud is in front of the moon, but we didn't see the moon until now that it would be really weird. And it just sort of in slow motion, was moving kind of like a leaf in slow motion, and we're watching and we all start realizing and then five of us begin to watch it and a smaller, more defined light literally flew out of it at high speed and then right back into it. And at this point we're freaking out. We're like, oh, yeah, totally, some of these guys. We had a guy with us in the group who has interviewed dozens of people who have claimed to have had alien encounters, and he's, you know, without mentioning him who he is, he works for some states doing stuff with veterans in the psychology and that sort of stuff, so he has like that professional background. So each member of the group had a different sort of area that they were interested in. I was more of the camera guy and the more of the big foot side, but we're all watching this thing and we're just like, man, this is just amazing. We watched it for about five minutes. We saw again another light fly out of it, and at one point one of our members, Paul there, went to grab his night vision up inoculars that he had just gotten recently and he began filming it. He actually filmed it for about a minute and a half, I think, and we actually got on video and then the video you can see this hazy object moving and there's a small circular object that stays parallel to it the entire time. And you can see the full footage on my website.

18:41 We haven't really published it much. It was in on the trail of UFOs, That's what it was in there, but it hasn't We've had it looked at by one of the chief video and photo analysts from Moufon and he he's a friend of he's a friend of ours, and he's usually shoots down ninety percent of the stuff that gets sent his way. You know, it's a lens flare, it's something that's been seen and he genuinely could not figure out what it was, so we're wow, We're still not really sure, you know what exactly it is, but it was kind of what we saw. And we watched this thing as it went over the horizon. It then stopped, and a few minutes later we saw from right to left an object fly through the sky at a tremendous speed, something you wouldn't imagine. And it was the strangest thing I've ever seen. Yeah, absolutely, and we all recapped and it's funny. We then we actually had another experience the night after, and this one I don't really talk about as much anymore because it's kind of out there. I didn't talk about it at least on the OH.

19:33 I did talk about it on the tri UFOs, but I don't think that park was included. It's just a very long story. But it was about twenty four hours after this, we all were in this garage where we were staying. That was where my gear was. Everyone's getting ready to go to bed in different areas, and we heard this just high pitched noise like a be It was just it started going and then all of a sudden, you know, we're looking around out who stepped on a piece of he Who activated the fire alarm. I'm looking at all my camera here. They're like, oh, is that your drone. I'm like, no, my dron doesn't make that noise. Sounds like it's right above us, and we're all scrambling to see what's going on. And mind you, there's the owners of the house are sleeping in the bedroom right above the garage, and there's a there's door that isn't fully closed where another group member is just laying there on his phone, you know, he's like getting ready for bed. So you're listening to this noise and it's almost like it moves outside. I don't know how to describe it. Man. We go outside and it sounds like it's in the sky and you can hear it like moving around in a sort of pattern, or at least like in different spots. Two cell phones are recorded at this point, so we have it the audio captured, and it gets to the point where it kind of it's almost like it's circling over the house and it goes towards this wooded area and then all of a sudden, it just stops. It didn't fade out. It went from like as if someone just hit an off switch. It didn't fade out like you'd expect foo maybe like a Tibetan singing bowl, you know, it'll sort of fade out.

21:00 Actually, that's the closest thing. Uh, And so we have audio of that as well. It just was strange. It happened right after that UFO experience. We still couldn't figure out what it was, and that the day after that we had our town hall meeting and we were so excited to tell all the townsfolk about it, and they weren't really that intrigued, I guess because they're like, oh, yeah, that kind of stuff happens pretty much all the time around here, very common that it's not weird, like exactly, you know, like that's the crazy thing. Yeah, who cares about that, you know. Yeah. They were just kind of like, yeah, we've had stuff like that happened very nonchalantly, and it was very interesting for us, of course. So right, So, so it was the weirdest thing I've ever seen. I don't know what it was, and I always say this, it truly fits the definition of UFO Unidentified flying object.

21:47 Yeah, yeah, it could have been some secret government technology. I really don't know. I've never seen anything that can fly in the way it did, like a slow motion having things flying off of it and back into it. Yeah, that's yeah exactly. And it was like it was like a cloudy haze kind of thing. That's what it really reminded us at first. And the object that flew off of it was defined and smaller, a lot smaller, and it kind of circled under it and went right back into it. And we watched this thing and we were just and we got on video. I mean, it's not just a wild story, and we you know, we just don't know what exactly it was, and we don't claim to say it was extraterrestrials or interdimensional travelers or or whatever. It was just truly a UFO. Wow, that's awesome. Like all of that add on information to that story. That stuff I had no idea about it, Like that's that's very cool. It's a long story without it, and that of course that's kind of it just makes more sense like that. And like I said, I never was really interested in that UFO side. That kind of opened up my eyes a little bit to the UFO subject, and that's when I got you know, involved a little bit more not really researching, but I definitely have have reconsidered some of my previous positions. Not that I was closed off to the topic at all, I just it wasn't really my cup of tea. I was more interested, just like I'm not really in the ghost you know, I was around people, I say, you know, being hanging around in a dingy basement in some insane asylum does not sound as fun to me as being in the woods looking for Bigfoot. That's just me, you know. Yeah, exactly two to have a horrible segue, Tell me

23:17 more about the project you're about to embark on later this year. From what I know, it's still later this year with the Chasing Legends crew. Yeah. Absolutely, So that's something that's been kind of in the works recently. A lot of fun. Nash Hoover, who's a pretty similar guy to me. I guess he's just from the Midwest. I'm from the East Coast, So he's a young guy filmmaker, adventurer, loves the cryptied subject. He's had this program called Chasing Legends for quite a while and they just sort of it's exactly what it sounds like. They go and investigate different cryptied legends or strange locations and just sort of investigate it from that first person perspective, you know, what are they, what's going on to them? And so they've this past year they've been working on a season one. So originally he contacted me because they were going to do a show on the Puck Qudgy, which is here in the Bridgewater Triangle. Yes, yes, yeah, so keep going, Sorry, I have questions, No, absolutely, yeah. Yeah.

24:22 So he he hit me up because he's like, oh, I know you're out there in New England, like we're planning on coming out there. Would you want to help us? I'm like, I'd be happy to. I just I don't really know much about the Puckqudgy myself. As a researcher, I've done Bridgewater Triangle stuff, but mostly Bigfoot. So I put them in touch with people that were more into that. So my friend Paul, my friend John Horrigan, who actually narrated Lines of the East, he researched in the previous life the Bridgewater Triangle pretty intensely and was involved with a lot of the key players and Lauren Coleman and everyone. So I put him. I put them in touch with people who have dealt with that subject for a while and they were like, well, would you want to be kind of like a guest in skater. I'm like, yeah, I'd love that. I mean, it'd be a lot of fun to go back to the bridge Waid to Triangle. Haven't been in a while. And then I sort of we started working together. We had this really funny shoot. What wasn't funny was great, but we had some funny experiences while there. We had this insane Motel sixth experience that was like that was a bonding experience right there, and yeah, that put us together as like we're going to talk about this story in twenty years. Okay, yeah, I gotcha. So they came.

25:26 It was funny because the timing was so perfect. It was the weekend or no, it was like four days before Massachusetts declared a state of emergency for the COVID That's when they were here. So they flew in from from Minneapolis and they were here in Boston. I showed them around Boston. We'd go to check into this Motel six and it was like I don't know if it was like a drug den or something, but there was like we lost power six times. There was a snowstorm all of a sudden, there's like people with pit bulls walking around the hallway and people having loud parties and kids screaming, and we're like, we need to get out of it. So we we do another hotel and we were all just like, this is some wild stuff and it was. It was comical. It's comical looking back on it, but that was a bonding experience. But aside from that, we had a fantastic shoot. We hung around the Freetown State Forest, we talked to people in the area, and then after that we kind of said, hey, Nash's kind of like, hey, would you want to like maybe join as a as a researcher with us for the first season. I'm like, I would absolutely love that, especially some of the things you're playing investigating, like those are I've either investigated them or I'd love to investigate them.

26:30 So oh yeah, totally. So we started a Kickstarter here back in the end of May and within a week we reached one hundred percent funding, which dominated so it's great, thank you, thank you. So we're doing some stretch goals, are actually going to do like a poster. So some guys are so inclined. Every listent helps just make it a little bit better, so you have a puck Wedgies done. That's that's basically, I mean, it's all filmed and everything. The next expedition we're hoping to do is the Moggion Monster Arizona, which is sort of a bigfoot kind of thing. So that's very different terrain. Yeah, absolutely, it's it's very cool one up there in northern Arizona, so it's not in the deserts of Arizona. It's in the what's called the Moggion Rim, which is this called Rim Country, and it's the basically this canyon area and then the top of the canyon it's all pine woodland, forest nice. So that's where a lot of elk and mountain lions and other forest creatures actually live. And it's in the mountains, so it's not really like what you'd expect you think Arizona cactuses, wild West that sort of stuff. It's very mountainous actually, so they have reports of a big foot like creature. So we're hoping to do that here in July.

27:42 And then after that Champ of course personal favorite of mine, so that one you have to you have to, Yeah, that one will be great, and then another one will be the rugaroo, so, which is the weir wolf type creature of Louisiana. Oh, oh my goodness. Yeah, I've been down there once in Louisiana and I've I've actually been to the town where that festival, the Ruguru Festival happens, So we're hoping to get down there. So it's like in terms of terrain, that's that's why I like, you know, the extra funding was needed just in terms of transport and all that kind of stuff, because we're dealing with in March, frigid snow conditions in Massachusetts July Arizona, you've got rattlesnakes and everything that wants to kill you in the woods. Same as Yeah, no joke, that's a very like Lake Champlain. So it's it's we're trying to present very different terrain and different types of cryptids. So you're just you're not just getting like big Foot type creatures. You're getting a puckwudgy, which you know is totally unique in terms of cryptids. You're getting a lake monster, a swamp monster, and a big foot type creature combined with a little bit of you know, mountainous sort of terrain in the desert so it's it's it's pretty awesome. So it's it's been really cool. I actually was just talking ton Ash earlier today.

28:56 As of this recording, we're trying to figure out for the DVD cover, doing some like art and stuff like that. So it's it's fun. Yeah, I'm glad to be a part of it. And they're great crew, and you know, we had we just worked pretty well together on that initial shoot, so we're happy to move forward doing that. So it sounds like you're very excited to answer Nash's question on how excited you are, and so we'll leave that at that. Also, do you do you care to comment on how many puck would you you've seen? Cryptid Campfire is trolling you hardcore? It sounds like, because that was addressed, I've seen a whole tribe okay, and they Hey, if you want more of that action, go listen to their episode. Guys, come on, No, they're good guys, they are. It's a good man. That's a good one. Yeah, definitely. One thing I had the thought of was after I listened to the episode, I went and looked at the Kickstarter and I was like, the amount that you're trying to to raise does not feel like it's enough, so literally, don't take that it's already raised in stop donating money for you know, kickstarting, Like if you haven't yet, please go because you guys have high goals. Like absolutely, that's off to you. Like through the Louisiana thing by itself, you could run into some crazy stuff down there.

30:18 Definitely. Yeah, So that's the thing. I mean, we did the Puckwogi thing pretty much out of pocket, so as much of the mogion okay, and we're just sort of at the point where we're like, you know, we'd like to keep the quality going, so you know, we're hoping if people want to get involved. What's cool about it is obviously with Kickstarter you have the different rewards, so you kind of become part of the crew, and you become part of the you get put in the credits. There's also we have the kind of the there's a couple executive producer roles that have been filled in, so those people will actually get to put their input in and like meet with us when we have our virtual meetings and kind of maybe if they want some aspects of the mystery that are explored, they get that opportunity because they're they're in a way, they're part of the production. So it's just making more interactive. And the way I look at is it's cryptid content for people, made by people who are interested in crypto content. We're not you know, LA producers that just want ratings. We actually care about the subjects a lot, and we're passionate and we'd be doing this if even if it weren't for this exactly, we'd be getting out there anyway. So we're just kind of putting that. And what I like for me of this project is it's my sort of first really getting out there as an investigator more, you know, putting my sort of time I've spent out in the outdoors and putting that in terms of searching. Because most of my work and documentaries, which you know I love, has been without myself in it, so I put myself to the side. I just focus on the subject and try and cover it from that perspective as like a historian or a documentarian. But this will be just me straight up saying what I think about a certain situation or what we should do that kind of thing, and as well as Nash, and that's kind of been his approach so it's definitely different for me,

31:52 and that's why I'm on board as well, because I like kind of changing up a little bit. I always like having my hand in different sort of air, so to speak. Very cool. Believe it or not, we are kind of starting to get to the end already. I would love you to share about your amazing show that you have Monday nights correct on YouTube. That's the day of the week usually that happens. Yes, yeah, it's pretty much every Monday night so far. We've had like eight or nine episodes. So it's my YouTube channel, SaaS gotch Out of the Shadows, And that's a YouTube channel I've had since like twenty sixteen where I just decided to put Bigfoot interviews and interviews with witnesses and kind of short documentaries that I don't really put out in a sort of official format, just kind of get them out there. And since the whole virus thing started, everyone was at home, I'm like, this would be a perfect time to start a show.

32:45 I already kind of had an idea I wanted to do for and it's just interviewing people that I've always wanted to talk to, are personal friends, people like Seth Jeff Melder mother, folks that I just find interesting. We're gonna have Jonathan Wilcone very soon, Cliff Barrickman very nice. Yeah, so just folks that people will hear of in people that you've never heard of. And that's what I like, just engaging conversations. So it's every Monday night, eight pm Eastern, and we take audience questions. So we always get some people asking fantastic and intelligent questions, which is awesome because we're very cool talking to these researchers and really kind of you're not. If it's somebody wh've seen on TV twenty times, this is your chance to kind of interact with them in a way. Yeah. No, I mean every week I look at the guests you get in, like pedacoffee, You've done it again. I don't know how you did it, but hats off to you. Thank you.

33:36 You got some connections that are amazing, and I'd say keep going with that. You were making some quality, quality content. What if, let's say, if I'd be surprised if people haven't heard of you before this this episode of how can people also keep up to date with what you're doing? Besides yeah, the easiest place is petacov Media dot com and that's filled a ko vmedia dot com. It's got links to everything from Facebook to YouTube to Instagram, links to projects, links to the Kickstarter for chasing legends too, on the trailer champ. Anything you want, it's all in there. That's the easiest single place to get it. Very cool also, and I can talk about that thing if you Okay, that's your screen cap, do it now? We have like three minutes now now, sure? Absolutely so.

34:27 At the end of the month here in June into July, we're going to start filming on on the Trailer Bigfoot two. So this is the continuation of small Town Monsters on the Trailer Bigfoot. This is going to be sort of a feature documentary, but it's going to focus on the Northeast. So we're going to start in Whitehall, New York, and we're going to be in Massachusetts, slash Maine and kind of filming in those areas, talking about researchers, all sorts of stuff. I'm not going to go into specifics, but the crew will be Seth myself, Mark Matski, Andy Maskie as well as Adam of small Town Monsters. So it's going to be a pretty skeleton crew compared to the usual sort of crew that is on there. But that's the whole thing with on the trail of it's much more of like a running gun style. So we're really excited. I'm super excited to get out to some of these locations like White Falls back in the Maine, so keep your eyes peeled for that. Uh So, we're just gonna be interviewing folks. Okay, we're gonna be interviewing some folks in Massachusetts. Yeah, so we're not going to spend too much time in Massachusetts, but it's going to be definitely part of the film. Yeah. Oh man, that is so cool.

35:37 Uh wow, So Northeast section of the US, all the Bigfoot encounters and goodness of their we're giving it some especially Maine, which doesn't get covered as much. Whitehall people might know about, but we're going to cover it all and we're just hoping to really show people, you know, just the natural beauty these areas too, because it's ridiculous. Oh my goodness, that is such a cool thing that you could you could share with the listeners here. Thank you for of course. Yeah. The text came in and I'm like, yes, yeah, definitely. I almost said something by by accident halfway through because Seth hadn't given the go ahead by text. So thank you Seth because I know that you listened to big Foot Society, right. But I love Seth. He's a good dude, he's a good good chat in the past, but again, I would love to have you back on in the future. Sure we can kind of have a wrap up of Chasing Legends.

36:35 Yeah, on the trail Bigfoot too. But hats off to you, sir. You are doing some great work. Maybe I can see it at the Van Meter Visitor Festival if you if you guys come, I don't know. I think I know, he goes. I will try my best. I don't know when that is, but September in the fall. Yeah, it's around September. I've been there for the last It's like twenty minutes from where I live, so oh nice. Yeah, I would love to. If not vicariously, I will be there for oh yeah. Ja Pajoci was there last year too from Wisconsin and al Linda Godfrey. Every year it gets a little bit bigger, so it's a good time. But again, well, chat later. Have a good one, Alex. Thank you. Again for coming on. Absolutely thanks for having me. Man, have a good night here at Bigfoot Society, our goal is to provide a platform for those that have encountered Bigfoot to share their encounter and a safe and respected environment. But we need to hear your story. If you've experienced something that you just can't explain, please send me an email at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com.

37:40 Then we can start the conversation. And I know a lot of you have not shared your encounter at all. It's been twenty years and it's time that you get this off your chest and then you can get some well deserved for rest because I know you haven't been sleeping. I understand what you going through and I appreciate every one of you listening.