How to Submit a Bigfoot FOIA Request with Eric Palacios

0:00 Welcome to the Bigfoot Society. In this episode, I talked to Eric Pelacios, a Texas based filmmaker and an investigative journalist. Eric shares about FOYA requests and how these can be done in the field of Bigfoot. Please do your due diligence and your own research before embarking on a FOYO recovery journey of your own. If you've submitted a FOYER request regarding Bigfoot yourself and have results you would want to share, please reach out immediately to me after this episode. Remember, your information could be the key to unlocking this mystery once and for all, so please don't hesitate to contact me at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com. All right, big for Society. I've got the privilege of talking with mister Eric Pelasios tonight. He is a indie film producer director with a background in investigative journalism. I've been wanting to talk to him for a while.

0:48 Eric, how's it going tonight. That's one pretty hug Jeremy, thanks for having me on man. Oh absolutely, I'm going to give you the reins right away. One thing we want to talk about is you've had a really interesting encounter and I know my audience loves to hear people talk about their encounters, and we've got some really important things to talk about at the end as well. Those that are listening. You want to make sure you hit the entire episode for sure, But Eric, go right ahead. Man. Yeah, So, I really don't think I can talk about my encounter in full without kind of describing where it's located. Where here and the media Central Texas area, to be a little bit more specific, It's Williamson County and we are part of the Balconies Escarpment, which is like a mini Grand Canyon.

1:32 It's actually visible from space, and it has creek runoffs, caves and a lot of underground aqua. First, and I've lived here pretty much for my entire life, and that kind of feeds into an encounter that I did have in twenty eleven. And twenty eleven is a strange year because that was the worst route Texas had ever faced, So there were a lot of water levels that were lower than normal, a lot of caves had been exposed, and access to a lot of places that were normally off limits. And we took a short walk from my backyard into the Brushy Creek where a lot of this stuff happens. And like a normal summer day, it was June, we'd been out there fishing. It was about six of us. We caught a lot of fish that day because there was pretty much a trickle into pools.

2:17 It was so bad that drough was just that bad. It just trickles into little pools filled with catfish and bass and stuff like that. So we caught a lot of fish that day and probably there for about six or so hours, and it started getting dark and as we were leaving, there was about six of us there walking single file. Because it's the slope area along the Brushy Creek. We were in a deeper area than we would normally be because the water was so low, so we were walking up at an angle. And the best way to describe it is we heard pretty much like this massive sound like an elephant coming through the brush and for whatever reason, we couldn't lay our eyes on it. It got really close, it had to be, with it about ten feet of us, and we were six big boys. We had stuff to take care of ourselves out there, but we were all trembling little kids out there, and this thing was just crashing through the woods. I would associated with someone turning the car scareo up on a metal song and it just keeps staying louder and louder and finally have to reach out and grab them out to turn it down. That was where we were at, and one of the guys I was with bent down and grabbed a rock and threw it in that direction, and we never heard anything after that, and we walked that way across the creek and we made it back to our house. Really didn't think about it for several years after that until we were all together and we started talking about it, and one of my buddy was like, oh, man, where could that have been? And I started doing the deep dive here in my area. And there's been a long history of bigfoot sasquatch activity dating back to the eighteen hundred, so so much

3:53 so. There's a road right off the Breshy Creek called harry Man Road, And that's not a myth, that's the actual name of the road. The street science says it and everything, and the legend goes there was a kid's family passing through and covered wagon times and the kid fell off the wagon and he ended up being stronged lot there and he became like a wild, hairy man or whatever. And that's touch story we grew up with as kids hearing that, but I never really put too much thought into it. I thought it was just an interesting story. And that is when I started doing the research for my documentary The Beasts of Rson Creek. I found a page in a book from who a guy who was actually the local postmaster in the area, had he written a book and he detailed the night of this event that took place. It was in nineteen sixty six. Group of high school kids were hanging out on the Herringman Road after midnight and one of the kids, his name was actually Shorty Caldwell. We have all the names of the kids that were out there. Shorty Caldwell was the name of the boy who got stranded out there, and he says that he tells this amazing tale of being chased out of the harry Man Road area by a giant, hair covered man, a being, And he got to school the next day and started talking about it, and the story kind of caught my wildfire, and a few years after that it was officially named harry Man Road, but it wasn't with that. It's people that were opposed to it. A lot of the old timers didn't want that name for whatever reason being attached to that road. Some

5:24 of the big, bigger names in the community would be like c d Folks. We have a school named cdee Folks. He was one of the people that was crazing a campaign to rename the road for Bluff and fortunately that never happened. But long, long history of that bigfoot activity in the area, and I guess I'm with that encounter that I had in twenty eleven unknowingly became kind of part of what's going on here. It's just it's so very interesting, especially because you're close to Austin, Texas. Right, Yeah, we're a little bit Marik of Austin, but not that far yet for sure. Fascinating and just to have all that that bigfoot history. I love your passion for investigative journalism. It comes out very It just it comes out super quick when you just start looking at the different things that you've put together. And I myself am a fan of that because I have, as you can imagine, I've got a lot of that myself. In fact, even tonight I'm digging into reports from actually a place in North Texas, Lake Texoma, up by the Oklahoma border, and people are reporting Bigfoot activity plus other things.

6:39 As a person who's investigating, you're you've always you're always looking into something. But I first heard about you, Eric when I was looking into some FOYA stuff and your Media Palace YouTube channel had come up, and it is just such a very interesting subject. Do you mind sharing with the listeners? What a Foyer request is request is a Freedom of Information Act request and that grants us information from any of the majority of government agencies that I wouldn't say withholding records from us. They just haven't personally been released to the public. You have to ask for these things. If he can't, he don't ask, you never know what the answer might be. That's what a request is.

7:23 In a nutshell, It's a way to get information pretty much. Yeah, so interesting. And I've tried to talk to someone on this podcast that has done Foyer requests for Bigfoot related information. I've tried for years and I've been unsuccessful. So when I stumbled upon the Media Palace YouTube account, I've got to talk to Eric. He has been uncovering some incredible things. You uncovered more information about the incident at the Mammoth Cave Park in Kentucky. Do you mind sharing a little bit about that. Yeah, that was one of the more interesting cases of me doing a FOIA requests. I had heard about this in twenty nineteen, which is around the same time I started getting into the subject, and I was huge news. A CNN had covered it. A bunch of the major news organizations I talked about at least featured it on their website, if not devoted a segment to it. And so I was like, Wow, that's interesting. And I never really gave two sets about it until I started doing a deep dive into research and I was like, look, it happened in a national park. That information should be public because it's federally it belongs to everybody, that information at least. And I did some digging on the national Park's website and I actually found the incident number. It was associated with the event that had taken place, and for people to that don't know what happened, the story goes there was a man out there with

8:58 his son and they had witnessed a bigfoot, supposedly witnessed the bigfoot, and they were in such danger that he ended up shooting at he fired a shot at it. They were witnesses in the area that approached the man, and the man told him that he had shot at Bigfoot, and so it kind of spun out of control when the media got ahold of it, and they were all types of conspiracy theories and a little bit of everything going on with this. So I wasn't really sure what I was going to find when I did the four year request. But with that incident number, I was able to write a detailed four year request of the information that I wanted, dates and everything corresponding to the limited I take place. So I did that and I waited. I want to stay close to a month before I got anything back. But when I got it back then it was a treasure trove of information. We have almost everything on this guy. Really. The only thing we don't have because it's exempt from a four year request, is the identity of this person. But we have pictures of the gun that was used, We have the witness statements from the when the police interviewed the witnesses that were on location there. We have tickets that were written to the gentleman the fire of the web, and we have a little bit of everything. There was also two videos that the National Parks had, but unfortunately they wanted over three thousand dollars for those videos, and I wasn't really comfortable forking over that money without knowing what was on the videos. So I was like, yeah, I'll just stick to the reports, and like I said, we got a

10:31 kind of a treasure trobe of information and I can go ahead and construct what really happened out there. So the guy was out there getting content for his YouTube channel, and that becomes aware of when you read the police officer's general court statement. He says, hey, this guy was prior to coming out here. We looked at or prior to coming out here, he had made videos on his YouTube channel saying that he was going to come out to Mammoth Cave and go bigfoot hunting, and if anything happened, he's going to run towards gigfoot, not run away. Not only that, but we have the report to where the officer approached the officer asked if he had a weapon. He denied having a weapon, even though he had a gun hiding one of the floorboards of his vehicle, and he got cited for that. He got cited for lying to a police officer, lyning to law enforce me. Now, I don't know how much think he would have in someone that's already lining the police to believe their Bigfoot story, because when the cops approached him again, he didn't say one word about Bigfoot. He just pretty much said that his gun malfunctioned and he dropped in his gun went off. Nothing about Bigfoot.

11:39 The only ones that remade that Bigfoot information were the witnesses. There were three witnesses that were there that had been approached by this man that had claimed that he had shot Bigfoot. None of that happened. It was a complete fabrication. Unfortunately. I really wish the news agencies would have printed a reaction, but maybe they didn't do the fully request. They didn't do the foot work. And I know people had been working on this story for a long time. Researchers in Kentucky had been researching it and they were saying, oh, it's gosh. They were keeping it under routs and local sharf So the local sheriffs don't have anything to do with And it's a federal part. The fans have jurisdiction over and in this case, it was the national Park Service.

12:20 So that was my first big realization when I started doing these spoiler requests, actually finding some information and now I think it's honestly safe to close that file. We can close this one and move on to the next one. That was my goal while getting into the spoiler request stuff. I wanted to see if I could find any breadcrumbs that might lead to other things like a nine to one one call me or a photo. It's been really interesting doing the sployer requests and seeing some of these results. And I have a lot more than i've got coming up, so I'm really excited to put out what I'm working on. Oh, in the documentaries you've got on your media puase channel, You've got one on that Mammoth cave and it's so informative. You've got all the documents you can, you've got the different things in the video and listeners you need to make sure you subscribe to it hit the bell so you don't miss anything. And then just recently you've got the video on you got a nine to one one bigfoot call from East Texas. There's some really interesting comments in that video. That one was a shocking I didn't even think that was a real call. To be honest with you, I had heard about it through some secondhand stuff saying hey, it was a big foot call.

13:31 It had taken place in East Texas, and I was like, oh, whatever, it was probably just some media stunt or something like that. Someone made a post or something they got picked up. I did the research and I actually found again an incident number and an incident summary report from the Harrison County Sheriff's Department, and the incident said that man calls Sheriff's office to report bigfoot on trail camera. And I was like, WHOA, that's interesting. Let me see how far this goes again. I wrote the four year request. Having that report, member, I was able to put the date and everything, all the necessary stuff that you needed for a good four year request. I was able to put in it here, and within I want to say, less than twenty four hours, I got a response, which is really surprising, and it was totally legit. It was a call that had taken place since the morning of September tenth to the Harrison County Sheriff's office.

14:26 The guy is pretty much stating that hey, I think I have a big foot on my trail camera. Who do I need to talk to you about this? And they, oddly enough, the Harrison County Sheriff's Office transfers it to the Texas game Boarding. That might not be odd, that might be their routine. I'm still trying to figure out why it was transferred over. I haven't made it successful of finding out why it was transferred, but it was transferred to the Texas game Boarding and a Texas game Boarding went out there to investigate what was going on. I have the nine to one one call. I have the call sheets, so we can construct a picture of what took place out there. And I do think it's interesting because it's not an outlandish nine to one one call that you've hear some other You've heard some other bigfoot calls that are, oh, this guy's in my front yard, we're all getting attacked or whatever. I'm not sure if those are one hundred percent legitimate. I have here the folder that the USB was given on for these calls. I hadn't, and there was a series of three calls that were taking We have the reports for this is one hundred percent of legitimate big foot nine to one one call. It was real. It happened the Sheriff's deputies were deployed to the area to figure out what's going on. They took the photo, and so we have all of that stuff, and the people who have seen the photo they ain's interesting. I'll just say that it's pretty interesting. And I'm working on the video. It's going to be coming out of my channel going into detail of what the witness said. I spoke to the witness. I have the unredacted police reports, which is not normally the case. Normally they were dact the identity of the person, but I have

15:58 his unredacted. I was able to reach out to him and at first he was like, how did you get my number? But I told him how I got and he wasn't upset, he was just surprised. He gave me a little bit of a rundown on why he called. And the background of the game Cram being there in the background of the area where he lived at, and it's all really interesting stuff in the photo. The photo, I think when people see that, they're gonna they're really not going to know what to make of it. I'm interested to see what people think when they see it. And if you haven't heard the phone call, check it out. It's pretty interesting. Again, it's to me it's one of the more credible calls because the guy seems very calm. He just wants him know what to do with this photo, and yeah, it's I think it's really interesting and I'd really like to know what people think when when they see the photo.

16:44 So I'm looking forward to that. I'm excited for the follow up because when I watched that video, I was pumped. Man, this is what gets me excited. But the UFO community, I feel, does a lot of for your requests. I feel that, unless they're just not talking about it, I don't think there's a lot of people in the Bigfoot community that do foyer requests. What do you think? Yeah, I'm surprised there isn't more people doing it. I think I've seen one other person do a four yer request for the subject. But you would think people seeing this and you've heard about these calls being made, and it seems like it would be a more frequent thing that law enforcement of some nature would have some type of record of calls taking place or emails being passed. Which emails, it's funny, I can actually talk about this here coming up. So I did a Foyer request for the Snowcave Florida Scowcave in Mayachi State Park, because I know there had been some coming out reports coming out and I was interested in doing that.

17:49 So I was like, Okay, cool, let me do a Foyer request for these Skollkak reports. And so I did that, a request for the I believe it was Florida Parks and Wildlife or something for that effect, and I wrote it up and said, hey, give me any records you have of a skullcape being reported in the park, being seen or anything like that, and not much Not long after that, I get a email saying we have zero reports, zero anything of skowcake for whatever. It's disappointed about that. But I pretty much took the same ployer request that I had written, and instead of skincave reports, I put bigfoot emails. I did that. I got fifteen thousand hits when I did that. So the Fish and Wildlife of Florida Fish and WELDLFE, they I have an email stating they have fifteen thousand emails containing the word big footing them. So that's a little interesting there.

18:42 So I'm working on getting a portion of those emails. Unfortunately, with that amount fifteen thousand emails. They wanted to charge me about three thousand dollars to get all those emails, so I kept nailing it down. I was like, how much for a thousand I stay too much? How lenge for you know, eight hundred student too much? So I think we settled on two hundred and fifty. That's what I could afford right now. So hopefully I'll be able to get the rest of those at some point. But I have coming to me, hopefully very soon, two hundred and fifty emails. Don't know the contents of them, but they do relate to bigfoots, so that's going to be an interesting find once I get those, and I might need some help digging into that. I don't know, Jeremiah, would you be interested in helping you dig through some of those. I'm not going to say no, my friend. I'll never say no to looking through bigfoot stuff.

19:33 It's such a fascinating topic, the whole Foya thing. I'm personally interested. So two times you found incident I think you said incident numbers on websites regarding the situation, Can you go into any details about how you were able to find those or any tips regarding that, Yeah, it's really just a lot of digging. Man. The National Parks they release their incident summary reports for a year, for a yearly thing. I think every I want to say towards the end of every year. I could be wrong about that, but they just released the one for twenty twenty three and it's really hard to go over. It's just like a notepad, if you will, of documentation.

20:14 It looks like code almost when they release it. It's not easy to look through, but you're able to find someone for some stuff on there. It is not keyword searchable, so that makes things in lave tetfork And the other thing that kind of got harder is that before, if you wanted to do a folly request, there was a website portal that you were able to do that. It was provided by the government. You could go on there submit your full year request. You could submit one request to multiple agencies and you would get your you know, oh we submitting here's the process or here's where it's at now, and they kept you up to date of how your request was doing and where it was at. Unfortunately, that website was removed last year in September. So now if you want to do a full year request, you have to go to the organization that you want to get that information through us and write the email detailed email. There's no portal for you to check the process. You just have to keep sending emails back, which is a little disappointing. It did make things a little bit harder, but it's still it's still able. You can still do it. And if you just know, if you have something that you want to look for, you have some information, I would you know, anything would help. But yeah, it's coming a little bit more difficult, but it's still doable, gotcha.

21:29 I would really hope that more people jump on it. I know, like you said, the UFO communities, you're seeing a growth spurt with everybody kind of doing their full year requests in that area. And I think if more people start doing this stuff for BIGO, we would get some really interesting information. I even think that let's before I get into anything more, and I'm going to have a disclosure before the end, before the beginning of this episode, if listeners choose to do stuff like this, you've already heard that there could be cost to do it, so do your due diligence before you do a foier request, and you are responsible, of course for anything that happens. But I think that if the Bigfoot community, if more people were to do this like you were, it could lead to any two things, maybe even like more disclosure or who knows where it could lead. No, I agree with you. I'm looking for breadcrumbs when I submit these foil requests.

22:22 I'm looking for phone calls or reports, obviously emails, anything that breadcrumbs to something bigger. I'm really hoping that maybe someone has like a video or a really clear image that they shared and hasn't gone mainstream or something like that. I know more effects, but you never know. I mean, I've already got one picture doing a follyer request, so it's like, what else is that there? And I've only been doing it for about a year. We've got the phone call, We've got the picture. I've had some other reports. We talked about the mammoth cable, and I can talk about another incident that you know a chance It was one that took place in Dinah Park, Colorado. Okay, this was weird, Okay they I found this on the National Parks website again, and it did have a summary there and an incident summary report number. The incident's summary was like three sentences and it says campers see pile of bones and claim that I've seen big foot in the area.

23:15 That's all it said, really short whatever. So I was like, wow, that's weird. I had the report number. So I wrote the four year request sent to out. I get back the typical National Parks leaflet though the way they would send their email back, the way it's structured blank, completely blank, And I'm like, what's going on here. I've never had that before, and I've had multiple requests I've done with them. Why is it blank? So I look at the email they followed that and I'm looking through it and it says it does say that there was big foo reported there. People had seen strange bone piles in that area. They reported to the ranger. The ranger was medically incapacitated to go out there and check.

24:00 They said, he refused to go out there and check. And normally with these foy requests for the National Parks, we have the name of the ranger, we have the name of the person that submitted the incident report. This was completely blank, and I think the reason they said it was medically incapacitated is because they could use a HIPPA exemption and not have to give out that rangers information. To me, this one was really weird. Do you have people saying they saw this and you have the ranger saying, hey, medically incapacity. Is that really what happened? Or are they just saying that because let's just even go all types of ways with it here. And it was smart for them to say he was medically incapacitated because for that we'll never know who this person was. Because it's a medical condition or whatever. It falls under the HIPPA exemptions, which Foyer unfortunately does have some exemptions that you know.

24:55 And it's weird when you get an exemption for bigfoot because it's like the exemption and typically for national security, ongoing investigations things of that nature. To get one on a bigfoot exemption on a big foot request, that's a little interesting. I've had a few and I could talk about that a little bit later. But yeah, for whatever reason, this guy claimed to be medically incapacitated and refused to go check out this big title that's a place in Colorado. This is getting wild, dude. Oh man, I got some questions for you, can you walk us through what in your mind makes a best case scenario or successful for your request, Like how you go about that?

25:38 Oh yeah, that's a good question. If you can find an incident number your goal. If you had one of those, you're going to get some information back. And if you get an exemption for that's even weirder. I think that's weirder than getting no information if you get an exemption. But definitely, if you have a report number, if you have a date in time of what happened, if you have some context of what happened, names, three street names, general areas, things of that nature, what was reported, keywords like that, bone piles like I mentioned in this other one, bone piles, things like that. But if really, if you can find a report number, you're going to be in good shape there. Doing broad searches like I'm doing now, Hey, good put emails or whatever, you might be able to find some stuff like that for sure. But again, the way I structured them, I was looking for certain information, so you can just get bombarded with nonsensical like email links and stuff from them saying you know, oh hey this is all we have or whatever. So yeah, I would say, really, if you have a day and time, location, things like that, they're probably going to be your best bet. If you have an if you have a report number, instant report number, you're gold. Yeah, it's really just And the other thing is you can just throw some hooks out there like you're fishing. It doesn't cost anything to do for you. But if you want the information, that might cost to something.

27:00 So it's going to get to a point where they'll be like, yeah, we have stuff, and if we go any further, it's going to cost you money. That's going to happen. Yeah, exactly. And I can go into detail on another one that I digree So okay, and I've been working on I should be getting to some back here. Yeah, I'm sure you're probably familiar with the Eastern Bray Road the low Are you kidding me? Okay? I did a dn R request for the response in dn R or whatever today. You know, I want all the information you have on I'm not going to give the keyword away, but yeah, because it's still an ongoing process, I don't want it to get ruined. I said, hey, I want all this information we have on this stuff or whatever, and they've been very responsive, and they're saying, Okay, cool, we'll give you that information, but we're going to build you up front. And I'm like, okay, wow, that's kind of what could they have, you know, fifteen thousand, one hundred fifty you know, reports on this stuff that's really interesting? Would I be mad if they're like, hey, it's going to be five grand, but we have pictures and audio and all types of who knows. I don't know whodness. But I am working on that and they've been very responsive and I'm hoping it's not a crazy number, and if it is, you might see me on like a gofund me something because I want that information, man, I definitely want it. And yeah, exactly, people need to know it. Yeah, I know there's a lot of people in the dog Man community that would be very interested in what the Wisconsin DNR has. Oh my goodness, that's amazing. Eric. Yeah,

28:30 it's not only the Wisconsin DNR, but I'm also doing the It's not it's the city elk Man, it's Woolworth County. I believe it's Wilworth County. I did it for the Sheriff's office there, and if I'm not mistaken, I don't remember that. I believe the gentleman's last name, I shouldn't say his last name, but he was featured in a documentary. He was featured in a documentary about the subject, and he had mentioned this werewolf folder they had. Now, if a government agent, a government employee has a werewolf folder, that's public information. You can hide that. And so I sent that out saying, hey, I want that, I want anything and everything. I'm like, here's a clip of him saying he has that or he wrote that, So you guys cannot deny that. But employee says he has that, and then multiple people in the sheriff's office knew about it.

29:17 So I want it, and I haven't heard back from them yet. That was only a couple of days ago. But the DNR variouspons and they have about twenty days to respond different for your request, different areas. They'll give you a deadline. And taxes we have ten days Wisconsin, we have twenty days. It's sticking down, man, kicking down. Well, get some type of response. So that answers one of my other questions. What I was going to ask, you can this be used for other cryptids? Too? And I mean there's the answer. You're looking at the dog man right now. Definitely, I would assume. Yeah, I mean yeah, I was never really sure about it until I started doing the digging. And I'm going to tell you about another one here, and I might get some flack for this one, but I have documentation for work. Yeah, this one.

30:00 I'm sure you've heard about the LBL stuff and all that stuff. Hold on here because there's been a lot of talk about that stuff, and there's a supposed master that took place and everything. I don't really I'm not sure how I feel about that, and I wanted to find out. Yeah, And so I did for you request on Hay and I wrote one that I felt from all the information online fit with the information I was looking for. And it was a little bit harder because that we really don't have anything solid on that, so you have to speculate a lot on that, and I did, and so I sent that in and I didn't get anything for that time period, Okay, for the time period, and I think they said it was like late seventies, eighties, this this event took place. Didn't find anything there, so I'm not really sure about that. But I did get a report from twenty twenty one. A man was fishing there in the lake, and I have to report your tooth. The man was fishing in this lake and he reels in a skull. He reals in a skull on the end of his line and thought it was a catfish. And we have no idea who that person was, how they die, anything like that, but we do know this person fishing reeled in a skull in that lake.

31:15 The police were called, the I believe the coroners and everything like that. They were all called to the area, and we do I have that report with some redactive information in there, but I was never really sure on the LBL type of stuff, and I'm still not sure. But finding that was like, that's creepy and weird, and no one knew about it. No one reported missing or anything like that, So I really don't. I can't really say anything other than what I'm seeing on the reports, and that, to me, that's pretty creepy. You're fishing out there, you think you're catching a big catfish, and you're really in the human skull. Now, I don't know about you, jeed Ny, but when I go fishing, I'm not thinking about really in a skull. Yeah, that's not on my goal list to get the skull. Just a nice pass would be good.

32:07 That's incredible, and it hats off to you to for really you thinking outside the box. I thought you were just a bigfoot guy, but man you are. You're going all over the place. Another cool thing I got from that is that at the beginning, we're talking about national parks, but you're also going into DNR And I was going to ask is so let's say I'm from Iowa and I'm looking into certain state parks or forests or something like that. It sounds like it's just it's being very You have to find the email to send the request to, and then you're just sending an email that says, hey, I'm looking for things of this nature. Do you actually have to drop the phrase I'm doing a foyer request or will they know what you're doing? No, you have to say this is a freedom of information a request, okay under this statue. And typically i'll name the statue of you know, if it's a federal STAF. Actually i'll name the federal statue for the foyer request. If it's statewide, you can find that online. I'm not sure the one for I of but yeah, you can find any It is best to state that with a four request you want to be as direct as possible. Again, like I said, just changing a couple of words can get you some information or it can get you not denied. They don't want to get you as they don't. They'll just be like, oh, we have no information like that, change a couple of words and then get fifteen thousand results. So yeah, it's an interesting gamble when you do one of these foy requests where you're going to get say anything. And I've had some that said, like I told you the Florida fishing game. They I had multiple ones saying no, we have zero on this, we have zero

33:38 on this. I'm telling you about a lot of the successful ones. But with that, there's been a plethora of unsuccessful ones that I've had where I've seen reports that have been reported on the BFRO or the wood A Conservancy where they have maps and stuff like that, and I'll look and see, hey there's anything reporting here, and I've come up dry on a lot of that stuff. For every ten you do, twenty you do maybe you'll get one or two that has something that you might be able to buy it on there. But yeah, there's a lot of failed ones for the ones that I've mentioned. Okay, but we're still getting information in here. That's the main role we want to try and make at least what I'm trying to do is make this a little bit more serious to where if I'm talking about it in the public setting away from the community, people will be like, Wow, that's really interesting and I can believe you because you have the documentation to prove it. And I think that might draw in some more people. It might get people changing their method. Maybe I'm not trying to change the world, but it would be awesome if more people reached out and did some of their own. Maybe they have some information that an event that took place in the area, and we can help them do a four year request on it and see what. I'm always willing to help somebody out. I've got ideas that I'm probably going to try myself. And you said you can do this with the sheriffs departments as well. Now I've heard some people when they're looking to see if a sheriff's department or police department has info, they'll just call directly and ask have you tried that route as well. I have tried that.

35:09 The most recent one that I called was an event that took place in Washington. It was a siding that was supposedly took place near a roadside, and the news agency said that the witness had contacted the sheriff's office, and so I called the sheriff's office and said, Hey, I'm looking for this information or whatever, and they're like, no, we don't have anything on that. We heard about that too, where we don't have anything on that, and you get that from other reports that you're looking into. Again, I don't want to hear any of his feelings. But one of the bigger nine to one one calls was the Bear County in San Antonio of the homeless couple that said they had seen a big flat trumping through the woods or whatever. So I did a full request for the sheriffs or the police department there, and they had no record of it. I'm not saying I'm not sure how legitimate that might have been. I know it was featured in like a couple of films documentaries, but I wasn't able to find any reports, any documentation on any of that stuff. And again I'm not trying to debunk this stuff.

36:08 I'm just trying to you know, Oh, that'd be cool. Let me get to the police report from the guy went out there or something like that, you know the call log. But yeah, you never know. With that shrowing, it's able hurt. It doesn't hurt to ask, unless they're gonna charge you an arm on the legs exactly. Then then that might hurt a little bit. But you can always you can say no, it sounds like it's not gonna come out of nowhere on you thankfully. Yeah. No, most places will tell you in advance or when you write the four request. I'll normally I'll write the foyer requests. Hey, if there's any charges of whatever, I'd like to be informed beforehand. And that's probably the best movie. He was just writing back in the four year request any extra building let me know. Let's say, let's take a hypothetical situation. Let's say you were to look into a certain you knew a certain area of a state, a certain region of a state was very squatchy. Would you drill down, maybe look at certain counties, certain county sheriff's office, and then go one by one or what would maybe your plan of attack be if you That's the way I've been doing it so far. I've been going one by one. Yeah, I haven't really found any any other way to do it, and I'm going one by one, but one by one in a sense of like one of the most reports I've seen taking place in areas like that, So starting off with maybe the more populated areas, like you said, most squatchy or whatever, starting with those areas and working my way down, but yeah, one at a time, sending them out with as specific as

37:39 I can and the information that I'm searching for. And yeah, it's some states are more or some sheriff's office are more willing to accommodate than others, and some are life. You didn't fill out this thing properly or whatever, so we're not going to do your request or we're going to now your request. But you don't really get that from a lot of agencies. But no, like I said, I've tried several places here in Texas and I've had a handful of success. And that's a lot of counties in my area. I'm not sure how many, but there's a lot in Texas, a lot of counties. So just working through it and yeah, hopefully when I've done with Texas, I'll move on to something else here. I don't think listeners need to realize it might sound scary, like calling a sheriff's office, but I think if you're just honest and like I've done this myself. I called an office and I think it was a Marshall County, Tennessee, and hey, have you had any bigfoot reports? And I actually was able to talk to an individual that was involved with an investigation quite a while back, a few years ago. But he was like, oh, yeah, I totally went to that area. And sometimes you never know what will happen unless you just try, and there's no harm in trying, but matter, yeah, you no harm in asking, And that's awesome that you actually got some information from a oh like that that stops to you. I was surprised. It can be. Yeah, it can be a min of scarity calling the sheriff's office with we're attempting to find bigfoot stuff or whatever, but you never know

39:10 they might be you might have someone on the other line that gives you all the information you need. So who knows. I got some good ones, man, I'm working on a few every one of these, I'm trying to make a video for Oh, I'd like to do the Mammoth Cave video. On the reci these, I want to show the documentation for everything. Everything I'm talking about, there's some form of data, whether that be a phone call records, eyewitness statements, things of that nature. So we had I did the Mammoth Cave one which showed all the tickets of the guyline, pictures of the gun. We even have photos of his ID, even though they were adapted. We have the pictures of his ID pretty much everything. And with this next one that I did for Texas for the nine to one one call about the same and we have the call statements when the cop was out there, I want to show when the call got transferred, the nine to one one call self, and the photo. So it's yeah, I'm trying to compile these into video essays that if you will, just to give everybody all the informations and we can leave it where it is or maybe come to a conclusion then move on to the next one, like the Mammoth cable, and I think we can put an X into that one and move on to the next one. So we're here on this Texas one and the photo I hope for maybe we get some video analysis on it or photo analysis on it to get a breakdown, and maybe we'll get some more information on it.

40:29 I am planning on going out to Harrison County, Texas to speak with the witness, and hopefully that'll happen when the weather starts getting a little bit better here in Texas. Maybe you're on spring So I'm gonna go out there, going to go to the location where the picture was taken and all that good stuff. But yeah, I'm I have a lot of information I'm waiting to get back. And that's the thing with the Floyer request is they can take a few months to get back. I think the longest one that I was waiting for took three months to get back. Wow, I was part of the that was part of the Mammoth Cave stuff. It took about three months for me to get information on that. So it does take a little bit of getting that stuff back. But I think I have a lot of irons in the fire that should be on their way back now. So I might have maybe a couple that I'm gonna have to juggle to see which one I'm able to put out first, but the LBL one I might end up doing sooner than later because I had got that information about a year ago, kind of kept it under my belt while I was doing some more research. But yeah, I mean I have the report. It is heavily redacted, but it's there, and I'm just trying to get a little bit more information to break it down to a video. Yeah, that's one of the ones that I'm working on next, and the Texas photo one, so everybody's gonna have a chance to see the photo give their opinion. And I'm really excited about that. Eric, You're I'm going to be honest, You're involved with a lot more cool stuff than I had realized. That's this is very exciting stuff.

41:58 And yeah, thank you. I appreciate that means a lot of coming from here. I really admiring show, and you've had some really amazing guests on in the production qualities. It's awesome, man, So defically deserve everything really good right now. Yeah, for sure, appreciate that. Do you have any fun investigative things you're involved with in your local area. You've got all these things going in other states, but anything going on home base right now? Yeah, like we talked about at the beginning, that Brushy Creek has a long history of not only weird Bigfoot stuff, I guess you could say, but just a lot of weird stuff in general. Like I'll give you an example in my backyard, childhood home I grew up in, about fifty feet away from our backyard. In twenty fourteen, they found three ancient Native American bodies there. We have no idea how old they are, who they were, We have none of that information. Unfortunately, because Texas there's a wall that allows the construction company to hire their own just to examine the body or the bones. So nine times out of ten you're gonna get some guy who's like, oh, nothing to see here, go ahead and build the road or the all them build the neighborhood. That happens all the time.

43:10 Unfortunately, we have no idea how old those people were, but would engage an idea from another ancient body that was found right along the Brushy Creek in Leander I believe it was in the nineteen seventies. They found an ancient Native American woman along the Brushy Creek and they titled it the Leanderthal Woman. In nineteen seventies. In the nineteen seventies, I believe they dated her to about thirteen thousand years old. Now that was back then. With the advances, now it could be way older than that. And that was just right along the Brushy Creek, So people have been in this area for a really long time. The Tonka would tribe would actually call this takachuwe Puetsuit, which translates to the land of the Good Water. That's what they called it.

43:53 This was like the literal Paradise and the Tonka they were an interesting tribe man. They had full body tattoos, like which you would think with the islander culture. They had full body tattoos. They didn't really wear a lot of clothing in the summertime because against crazy hot in Texas. But once a year they would put on a big celebration for their deity, which was a giant wolf, and they would wear wolf pelts and dance around for a few days and celebrate this wolf deity. And that's all in the area that we're at right now with all these thrones and counter stories. And not only that, but I can't believe I almost forgot the Roman coin that was found in the sixties they found a Roman coin right along the Brushy Creek again, and it was really strange because it was found at the bottom of an Indian burial mount and the person the found it took it to the professor at the University of Texas, and there was a little bit of a controversy there because one professor didn't believe it was authentic from a Roman. He believed it was from a World War two veteran coming home and had collected that a spoils of war walking along the Brushy Creek and dropped it and a road and grabbed it and burrowed underneath, and that's how it got to the bottom of an Indian now and then that's his theory at least. But the other professor knew the person that found the Roman coin. They had grown up together and been arrow hunting, and they learned under the same gentleman about how to relic hunt, and he had seen it. He's one hundred percent of believe that guy, and I

45:24 believe it, but there's none he would lie and all this other stuff. And the other guy, the professor that denied it, he actually refused to go to the area where they found it. He didn't go there until it were five years later. By that time, things had already been constructed, there was a road, some other stuff. But yeah, just a lot of really weird happenings along the Brushy Creek area. And that's really what drove me to do my first documentary was just accumulating all this really weird information. And I didn't mean for it to become a documentary. I just knew I was gathering this formation. I wasn't sure what it was going to be, but and then becoming the documentary and through that I actually found some more really weird stuff that kind of ties into the four year request. And I remember, if you remember, at the beginning, I talked about four year quest I had done in my area for some big quit stuff that take I took, and I can talk about that if you want. It might get a little spicy there there, Jeremiah, I just got to throw your heads up on that. We can go for it and see what happens. We can go for it. Go for it. I can always add if it gets too weird, I just wanted to check with you. Get a little okay, So this in twenty sixteen, I'm just going to be straightforward I was investigating some bodies that had popped up in the Brushy Creek. Twenty sixteen, there were three bodies that, for one reason or another, ended up in the Brushy Creek to this name. We don't know the identity of one of the people. We have no idea if it was a man woman, how

46:57 old they were, we have no information on that. The other two were men in their forties. The police and everyone has says they died. They died from natural causes and nothing to see here in no foul playing. Two of those bodies were actually six days apart, So it's weird that would happen like that. And this was all in the same year that the area I lived, round Rock, was named one of the top ten safet cities in America. So you're talking about saving the cities in America, but you have a couple of bodies popping up in the creek. Whatever. I started researching that. And when I started researching that, in twenty seventeen, for whatever reason, we had a giant influx of bigfoot activity. I guess you could say that people were in groups Facebook groups and now they're talking around town and talking about things were taking place to harry Mont Road had been closed for a while. They said it was for construction. A lot of really weird stuff happening, and that kind of culminated into a gentleman posting a video of this tall skinny thing. I haven't seen a video, but everybody has told me what they saw. Multiply you told me what they saw. It was a tall, skinny thing walking across the creek in a certain area. And when the reason I've heard about this is because I was in a Facebook group saying, hey, anybody heard me any more information about this stuff going on or whatever? This was later, This was in my twenty twenty later when I started working on the documentary and stuff like that, and they said, oh, you need to reach out to this guy. This guy took a pic.

48:28 This guy took a video, and he posted in one of these groups, and he got in trouble and all this other stuff. At least five different people told me the name of this person that about that video, and at least five other people said that guy had been hanged off, he had been got in trouble or some weird stuff going on. Who knows, not really sure, But in twenty seventeen, this is a fact. You can go and check it out. The an agency. I'll say that an Alphabet agency actually put about a reward for the capture or information to the capture of Bigfoot. This is all fact. You can go look it up. I have the emails that were sent from the chief of police in my area to an Alphabet person. Not only a person. We know who this person was because it was in the email. This person that works for this Alphabet agency was the head of that agency in Texas. And I did a little bit of digging on that guy. And in his bio it says that he's in charge of secret information and at least ten overt a covert secret basis inside of Texas. This is all in his bio. This is public information. This was the guy that the chief police sent the email too. And then the guy responded saying, Hey, we're going to send you all types of anything you need to capture Bigfoot. We're going to offer a five hundred thousand dollars reward. Jeremiah, have you ever heard one of these agencies offering a fake

50:01 reward? Yeah? No. To get these emails, Okay, we have them. It became public. It was public and a lot of people were saying like, Oh, this is a this is a stunt for the local community or whatever. But if it was a local thing, why is a federal agency offering a reward for it? Okay. Not only that, but the same day that reward came out, the information about the reward came out, there's a report on the BFRORO in the same area, the same wording that this agency put the report out on. In the same area, there's a bfr ROW report same date, a very detailed encounter from a person that I actually took me two years to find out who this person was, but I found out who he was, and he had seen something going through his trash or his composting that he had in his backyard and seen something going through there. This was the same day the cy bulletin came out all really weird.

50:59 So it thinks you think the agency monitoring that site and putting up fake stuff or did they see it and decided to put out a wanted for that really weird stuff going on. Not only that, but the next closest report it was the next day. The next day there was another report. There was another report the next day about ten miles east, someone had seen something crossing the road and it jumped a fence at one of our state parks, Aboucony's State Park, which is a really interesting, beautiful area. That's weird because they don't let you stay overnight, they don't let you film out there.

51:40 There's no grown stuff out there, really weird area. I would love to do some stuff out there. But yeah, eventually, we hope they'll people do that there. Yeah. To me, this is like a smoking gun of stuff taking place. You're having all these accounts. This guy had said he had filmed something. Multiple people had said, hey, we saw the video of that guy film You need to talk to this guy. And I reached out to that guy and he said a very short word. He says, yeah, I did. I have all these emails and everything. He says, yeah, I did film it, and I signed a non disclosure emit. Sorry, I can't talk about it. Pretty much what he said disure told the location. Yeah, yeah, exactly, all right, and yeah, that's pretty weird. Man. To me, this is like, yeah, I don't want to say too much about a cover up or anything like that, but do you remember I was talking about breadcrumbs, finding some breadcrumbs there's a lot of dang bread crumbs here, man, there's a lot Why would a federal agency put out a reward and a bulletin like that from an actual not just an employee, but the head of the agency in that area. What's going on there? Man? And five hundred thousand dollars?

52:51 That's you know, it's all really strange and weird to me. Man. And so I did a flower quest on this, said, hey, this is the date I have the information. This really happened. Give me the information and it was exempt. Sorry, we can't give you that information. Maybe we cannot give you that information. I'm like, what the heck, why can't you give you that information? And they listed their terms and this is either national security threat, it's an ongoing investigation. There are people that have of influence in the law. Possibly, there's a lot of really weird. It shouldn't have been it shouldn't have been an exempt. It should have just been, oh, we have nothing on that. That was a joke or something that says to me that everything that you said is probably true.

53:37 If they're like, no, we're not going to give you anything, that's nuts, dude. Yeah, I've been trying to get an interview with that person, the top guy there, the one who put out this wants it. And a couple of months later he retires, and now he works for a gigantic oil company as their security or as they're whoever, they're big in a big security drilling whatever. I'm going to tag allegedly onto my last statement just because I'm paranoid. Yeah, I told you I was going to get a little I have everything for this, man, I have the data for it. This is real. I have the emails people sent me, the messages. I have everything. I have the guy saying, hey, I sang a non disclosure agreement. I can't talk about that. He goes into a little bit more detail. I really won't take too much on that, but yes, yeah, he went into some detail on it and gave me a location where it was. Okay, not only that, but we're talking about twenty seventeen. I keep forgetting stuff. Now it stopping in my head. We're talking about twenty seventeen. So in twenty nineteen, I'm sorry.

54:37 In twenty eighteen, we had a giant caving in one of the neighborhoods off of Brushy Creek. There was a caving and it went for I think they said that they found man on a finding like twelve chambers or something. Crazy airflow down there and the water down there, and I'll just say that the person said, hey, I had found something. The guy who took the video said, hey, I had found something. And I told them about this area prior to the caving, this many months prior to the caving, And I don't know if that has anything to do with it whatever, but it was really interesting and in this area there are just so many caves. While researching it, I found a document from the University of Texas Perlunkin group. They documented about three hundred caves in the area. Oh wow.

55:23 Now they're estimating there could be around three thousand caves undiscovered in the area. Some of these caves go for a really long way underground. I know there's a cave in Long Warm Cavern, which is south of us that they just discovered. These cats prestore cats that are like three miles underground and pitch black. They're like, well, how did cats get back here? It makes enough sense. They're trying to figure that out too. Bones of them, Yeah, multiple bones down there, and they really couldn't figure out how they could go miles in the darkness like that. Really weird stuff, but just a bunch of caves, caverns and weird stuff in my area. So that's I am working on a couple of more documentaries that should be out here soon.

56:09 That's the next one is pretty much buttoned. Uh yeah, and it takes a deep dive into the area. We're actually going into the Brushy Creek. I talked to some witnesses that had some really amazing encounters that are the typical Brushy Creek encounter. I want to say typical, but it's the same fashion of people being aggressively chased out of the area. That's something that goes back again to the nineteen sixties encounter of Shorty Colwell being chased out of the area off of Harryman Road. Almost every person I've talked to had said it was aggressive in one of us out of the area, and I just thought of another one that had happened. I had got an email from someone that said that they have heard about there was a video up on it too that was removed. They had heard about an encounter that took place off of the Brushy Creek in my county where a school bus had stopped on stop next to the tracks and something that came out and hit the side of the bus.

57:04 The kids saw it, the bus driver saw it. I was doing the digging to see if I could get some information on that, and then there was a video kind of describing a little bit of this. You can't find it anymore. The link is a good scrub from YouTube, you think, or scrub from YouTube. And yeah, it was really weird, but so I was trying to get someone on that. But it is just like a weird area, man, and not just Bigfoot related. There's just a lot of a lot of activity that I probably shouldn't talk about that weird stuff. Man. You know what, I know Texas is your main goal, right because that's where your home base is. Dude, Someday I would love to see you just go into Oklahoma Bigfoot and just yeah, find some stuff that would be nuts. I've done some I've done some little bit of digging there.

57:52 Oklahoma has some interesting foia logs. I'll just say that, really they're not as easy to get some information. Yeah, Oklahoma and Louisiana they are a little bit tighter and not impossible. But I haven't got any information after yet. Really, but I haven't done too many. I haven't done too many out of Oklahoma. I've been a few out of Louisiana. I'm I'm still coming up drying there. It sounds like it's a challenging thing to do, but the rewards are worth it if you put in the time and you have the patience to do it. Yeah, I think so. I think we're starting to get the ball rolling. We're actually getting data that can be measured in one way or another. And that's my goal is to getting into this. I wanted stuff that's solid for people to look at. I didn't just want to just come up with more anecdotes and anything like that. I wanted to do something a little bit more solid, something a little bit more concrete for where I could pass it off to people that might be a little bit better inclined to do some harder video analysis or audio analysis or whatever, and maybe we'll get some more answers from it. That's really the goal, to get as much information we can, and I think one on the right one on the right path. With that, hopefully more people jump in and start doing some for you. Next thing email. We'll have a bunch of phone calls, a bunch of stuff looking forward to that and listeners, if you have done a foya about Bigfoot or other cryptids, feel free to reach out email me Bigfoot Society gmail dot com or put it in the YouTube comments for this YouTube episode and I'd love to hear about it. But Eric,

59:22 I want to thank you for coming on the show tonight. I've been looking forward to this one for a while. But do you mind sharing with the listeners how they can keep up to date with what you're doing, how they can contact you if they have any information they want to share with you. Yeah. Sure, you can find me on YouTube. It's media Palace. That is my channel here on YouTube. If you want to email me, it's Eric media Palace at Gmail. Can also find that on my channel in the description of most of my videos. And yeah, if you'd like to watch the documentary The Beast and Brushy Creek, it was in a detail a little bit about everything in the area extreaming on TV Amazon. It's also on my YouTube channel. I have the other documentary, The Legend of Harryman Road on my YouTube channel as well, and that's a little bit more of the stuff going on in my area. But hopefully once I start getting more of these full your request responses back, you'll start seeing a lot more videos like the nine to one one call, like the Manoth Cave video on my channel.

1:00:22 So I'm really looking forward so putting all the data I have out there for people to dig through. And again, if anyone's interested in helping me out dig through some emails or dig through some National Parks records, please let me know because I could always use it. Air. That's awesome. Oh man, thanks for coming on, Eric, It's been a good time. Awesome, Thank you. Thank you for having me Jeremiah, I really appreciate it. I just wanted to take a few minutes to say thank you to you all my listeners for listening to the podcast. Please take a minute to help out the show by subscribing on YouTube, making sure you hit the bell so you don't miss any notifications, and share the episode on YouTube with a friend. Also, if you're listening to us on a podcast, thank you so much, make sure that you're subscribed, share the show with a friend.

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