Into the Boundary Waters: Bigfoot Experiences and Mysteries (Extra: Bigfoot Rendezvous Preview!)

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all right, Big for Society've got
the privilege of talking to Sean Shawn's

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a gentleman that reached out to me
through email to share some interesting things that

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happen back in September of twenty twenty
one up in the Boundary Waters area of

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Minnesota. Thank you so much for
contacting me, Sean, And it's going

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to be a pleasure to hear the
full story tonight. But how's it going,

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man? It's going pretty good,
awesome, and so are you?

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Based out of northern Minnesota. Then
no, I live in more like west

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central Minnesota. Gotcha, all right, been here my whole life. You

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know, I haven't had the privilege
of getting up there in northern Minnesota,

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but I've heard a lot of wild
stuff about it. So now I'm going

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to go ahead and give the floor
right over to you, my friend,

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and let you kind of hear what
happened to you those few three days.

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Yeah, and late September twenty one, I actually it was my first Bondywater's

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trip. Went with a friend and
his dad and uncle, and we went

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in on the eastern side of the
Bondywater, so we were in like the

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top corner of Minnesota. And really
we got out there was a five day

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trip. We paddled in, got
to our first campsite, and you know,

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we I've always kind of had an
interest and listened to different podcasts and

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everything in Bigfoot, but I wasn't, you know, looking for anything.

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But the first full day we were
there, when we went inland because we

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were staying on an island in a
giant lake, we went into a bay

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and which was super cool because we
could hear a bull moose move around and

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like bellowing. It was really cool. And then we get to our first

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portage and we get a basically out
of the canoes and everything's ready to go,

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and we go to start packing everything
out, and my buddy and I

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were we were leaving second because we
were carrying the packs and the other guys

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left with the canoes, and we
heard four pretty distinct wood knocks, and

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like he and I both joking,
you know, you know, we both

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have interests in the subject, but
we both kind of joked, oh,

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we're gonna see big Foot on this
trip. And then all of a sudden,

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like we just snapped and looked at
each other. But yeah, so

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we kind of went through that portage. It was like a they measure everything

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by rods, which I believe is
sixteen feet. It was like rod portage.

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We get to the end there,
we get in the canoes, load

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everything up, and as soon as
we push off, I hear it again,

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just whack, whack, whack,
you know, four. It was.

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It was too much of a coincidence, and we ended up portaging.

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You know, we end up getting
out of the canoes three times because we

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had to do you know, three
portages into fishless lake and three porters back

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out, so it end up being
six full portages, and we heard it

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five of the six times. It
was when once we were on the ground

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carrying stuff, we would hear it, and once we were back in the

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water pushing off, we would hear
it again. It was just super super

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weird and it was very I never
had a moment where I felt uncomfortable or

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just not safe, but it was
definitely. You start listening a little bit

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more, but that's all we ever
heard. And then we got back to

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camp, and the next day we
stayed on the island and just hiked around

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the island because it was too windy
and rainy. And then the third day

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we paddled like four miles west of
where we were staying and we portage up

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to this little tiny lake that had
brook trout in it because we were gonna

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go fish for brook trout. We
were there for about an hour and a

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half, didn't really hear anything,
you know, I was kind of listening,

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but never heard anything. And then
the guy that I was in the

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canoe with said he wanted to take
a break, so we kind of paddled

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back to where we launched the canoes
from pull it up on shore. He

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fell asleep pretty instantly, and I
was just kind of laying there. Threw

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a bober out and we were kind
of fishing, and I was just laying

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back on the grass and I hear
this cracking and crashing up on the hillside.

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And there was this to the north
of us, a hillside with all

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this dead fall. It was a
pretty big hillside, and the dead fall

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was all, you know, like
probably two to four inch diameter branches.

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And I just hear this crashing,
you know, something moving along that hillside,

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and I kind of look and into
the scening. So I grabbed my

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phone to try and take some pictures
of the hillside, and as I lean

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over to unset my pack, I
look up again and I saw just the

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backside of something, whether it was
you know, the back or a shoulder

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or something. It was just like
a gray kind of black matted fur.

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It was something moving, but it
was like a grayish black. And then

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it stopped because it got into some
foliage. And then as I was fumbling

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around trying to get my phone out, it moved through and I didn't see

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it again. I just saw it
that first, you know, go into

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the foliage, and then it continued
on and then just got quiet. So

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I took some pictures of the hillside
and you know, kind of zoomed in

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on where I saw it go and
kind of where I was seeing it traverse

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through. And then that night in
the tenth I was talking to my friend

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that I was up there with about
it, and he goes and he was

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in the canoe on the other side
of that lake, and he had heard

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the crashing as well the movement.
He never saw anything, but he heard

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it move along down that whole side
of the lake, and it was just

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I tried to compare, you know, what animals I know are up there

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and what would be moving on at
hillside that steep making that much noise,

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and I mean, and with the
colorations that I saw, I don't know

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nothing really. I mean, a
black bear very well could have been a

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black bear. I just was making
a whole lot of noise, moving pretty

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fast, and it was just kind
of a coincidence. And then that night,

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after we paddled all the way back, we were it was just my

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friend and I, his dad,
his dad and uncle were hiking on the

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island. They were just looking around
for mushrooms or stuff to forage, and

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we were kind of fishing off a
boulder and he elbowed me and looked across,

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and I didn't see it, but
he described something a dark figure or

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something about two or three hundred yards
across the lake from the to the nearest

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point we were at, scramble up
from the shore into the rocks and foliage.

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He couldn't tell if it was on
two feet or four feet, but

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it moved pretty quickly, and I
just kind of weirded out a little bit.

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Nothing really any know, like we
need to get out of here type

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feelings. And then we had another
day, and then the next, and

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then the two mornings after we paddled
out and went home. That was that

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was it for that encounter, just
the the wood knocks and then something moving

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along the hillside and the dead fall. But it's it's it's such an interesting

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event of that of those days,
just because I don't know, you're in

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such a remote area, right,
Yeah. We we were forty five miles

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north of the nearest town, and
then we were six miles in from the

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landing, which isn't super far.
You can get a lot farther up in

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there. But I mean we were
we saw like two other groups total that

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whole five days we were there.
Definitely have a few questions for you.

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So thinking back to how you saw
something on the hill when you were looking

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up, was there any way to
kind of get a feeling of how how

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tall what you saw was the ground
tough? Is that hill was so steep?

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I just saw I just saw basically
a hair moving like fur hair whatever,

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moving into the into the green.
I mean it it looked big in

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comparison to the branches. I just
don't know how tall it was, because

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that that hillside was fairly steep.
I just all I didn't see like legs

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pumping into the I just saw movement. And you know, it was about

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one hundred probably fifty yards up,
you know, you know, at an

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angle. So I just saw a
movement in I couldn't tell how tall it

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was, but just it would look
big in comparison to the trees that were

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around it. What kind of sounds
were you hearing in the woods that day?

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Really just some squirrels making noise.
I mean, we met a couple

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of squirrels going up the up that
path, but that was about it.

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There wasn't much for birds going on, you know, and actually once we

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got on the water, really really
here much at all for creater noises,

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gotcha. Yeah, going up that
trail, a couple of red squirrels crossed

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the path, but after that I
don't remember hearing or seeing any other critters

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until we got back down to the
water to paddle back to camp. You

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mentioned you heard the four knocks at
multiple different times throughout the trip. Did

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you hear any other sounds that didn't
really belong or that kind of were like,

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that's kind of weird to hear that
here. I mean, no besides

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and the moose, the moose bellering
and like that. That that big noise

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they make that definitely is natural,
but it was just it. I don't

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know, I haven't been able to
find a video that sounds exactly like that

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one. But it was off through
the off to the trees. It was

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probably just started a little bit.
But we didn't hear anything else. There

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was not anything I've encountered before besides
the wood knox, gotcha. At any

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point, did you smell anything that
was pretty strong or any weird smells besides

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myself? After five days? No? Right, Yeah, the water was

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too cold. No, really,
no, we didn't notice any smells.

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Gotcha. You had mentioned that someone
else in the party had also seen like

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a dark figure scramble up from the
lakeside. Was that remind me? Was

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that your dad or your uncle?
So that was my buddy? Okay,

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So I was there with my friend
and his dad and uncle, so they

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invited me. It was the three
of them have always gone up there,

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so he and I were kind of
off doing our own thing most of the

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trip when we weren't all canoeing.
But yeah, it was. He saw

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it when we were fishing together as
the across the lake to the nearest point.

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Was he an individual that would have
had he would have been thinking about

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bigfoot as he's going into this or
what was How was he thinking about it?

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I mean it's he wouldn't be like
everything's gonna be bigfoot, right.

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We both have an interest in the
subject. And we talked about the woodknocks.

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I mean when we got back to
camp, we kind of just the

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two of us talked about it a
little bit because the other guys were kind

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of kind of poop pooted. They're
like, we've been up here a million

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times and we've never heard or seen
anything weird and say, okay, that's

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you know, but no they he
and I talked about a little bit.

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I mean we both had the same
ideas, like that's that's weird. The

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fact that it happened the second time
it happened, that's like, that's a

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that's really interesting. And then it
just kept happening, and I thought I

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had you know, I was listening. I listened to him. That's my

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daughter and I listened to Bigfoot podcasts
when we're driving and she's she's six.

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But I remember someone was saying that
they've noticed that when they were traveling in

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groups, they would sometimes knock or
try to knock to you know, as

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far as how many people they saw, not that they can count, but

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like, you know, right,
so, I don't know, it's it

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just it was interesting that it was
exactly four and there was four of us,

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and it was almost every time we
portaged into that area. That's that's

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an interesting theory I haven't heard before. Actually, that's but that's kind of

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what I heard. That to think
about squat chronicles, Okay, gotcha,

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something that might be interesting as context
was probably a lot of listeners don't know,

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can you describe what it means to
portage in the bony waters. You

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are truly you have to bring everything
in. So what we were doing is

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we were just on a day trip. So we had our camp set up,

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we had fishing gear and rain gear. And what we would do is,

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you know, you're in the canoe, you get to the spot and

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they have trails marked. It's not
not super heavy, but you'd get out

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of your canoe, you load all
your stuff up, you carry your canoe

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across the track of land and you
get back into a spot. So we

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topped the big lake, We paddled
into a bay, landed the canoe,

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carried our canoes and our gear,
you know, to another lake, paddled

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across that lake, carried the canoes
and gear to another lake, and then

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fish that third lake or fish that
other lake in. So you just you

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have to you have to bring everything
across. So we had to make two

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train every time to carry all of
our gear and then carry the canoes.

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You're spending a lot of time not
on the water when you're doing that.

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And would you be holding the canoe
with your hand or would it be over

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I know there's some people they put
it over their shoulders. Yeah, so

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the canoes we had had yolks in
the center, so you kind of lifted

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up over. We were lucky enough
to use the The one of the guys

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that was in the group owned a
two person kevlar canoe, and then we

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rented one from where he works at
So they weighed like seventy six pounds.

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They're incredibly light, so it's aluminum
frame with kevlar lining, so when one

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guy can carry the canoe. So
it was just to carry, you know,

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we had a pack with our food
because we brought our food with you

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because you have to hang your food
or have it in a bear safe container.

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But we just decided to bring the
food bag with us because we didn't

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know how long we're going to be
gone, you know, so we brought

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you know, I ended up usually
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heaviest bag, and then one guy
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back and get the fishing gear.
But you had two different tu canoes.

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That's the fishing gear, a food
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That's wild. It's it's just one
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lot of people know about that part
of canoeing when you can find it with

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hiking. It's just it's fascinating.
I mean it is to me because of

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how I grew up. But we
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just last fall, and we went
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fish Lake Trout, and we had
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was a hard trip and it was
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total, and twelve of those twelve
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was carrying everything, and it was
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Have you been back to that area
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No, this time we went in. We went in on the opposite side.

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We went in more by Elia,
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where we were. And did anything
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No, nothing happened this time that
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you know, it's when I was
I took a hammock this time,

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so I have a tent hammock.
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the woods. But you'd hear stuff
moving around outside you and sometimes you trick

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your mind tricks you think there's you're
hearing something on two feet versus what it's

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probably just grouse or rabbit or something. But no, nothing out of the

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ordinary. This last trip. Okay, you have this trip in twenty one

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and some weird things happen. How
did that affect your life when you got

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back out of the woods and your
back out didn't change it at all change.

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I want to go back there,
my friend, and I want to

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go back there to that spot specifically, because when I did email you it

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is I was I had listened to
one of the older episodes, and when

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I was looking on the map,
is we weren't more than twenty miles as

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the crow flies roughly from where the
experience that I listened to. When I'm

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like, you know what, I
should just email because it was so close,

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you know. But we want to
My buddy and I want to go

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back, just the two of us
and just go in and just not do

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anything, just hang out and just
see if we can notice anything or see

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anything or encounter anything. It's not
it's not keeping me out of the woods

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by any means. Big for society. Who will be right back after these

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messages? Right? And that was
ah, yeah, that was Leslie.

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That's an old one. Yeah,
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That's very interesting. Yeah, because
I remember it. She was grouse hunting

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or something and was and was getting
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But yeah, no, I heard
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a look at the map, like, that's not far from where we were,

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you know, And then I started
looking where she was at. I'm

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like, yeah, that's because we
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of Lutson. Okay, so it's
not far. I am going, yeah,

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I think not enough. That's so
old. A lot of people that

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probably don't remember that one, and
I'm probably just gonna tag it onto the

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end of this, to be honest. And when you got back home,

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did you so we know that that
one that was on my show happened about

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twenty miles away? Did you look
up to see if there are any other

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incidents that occurred in that area?
Not in that. I haven't read anything

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else in that area. I've looked
at different It's so hard because I've looked

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up, like tried to look at
like the BFRO and other sites, and

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I've looked at like I've just google
searched or searched on like podcast histories like

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yours, and then I, you
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I listened to just try to find
other ones. I haven't found a whole

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lot in that area, but like
there's a Bonderwater's Facebook page, there's a

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lot of people that talk talk about
they're encountering like hauntings, but then they're

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also like having things thrown in their
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But I had nothing too far and
nothing too much in that area that I

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always have been able to find.
But I haven't looked at it too much,

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and that's been a few years since
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do, we do, my friend
and I do want to try and plan

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another trip to go up there,
purely just to try and invest, just

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to look for look for one or
try and have another encounter. So we

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know that definitely the Boundary waters Is
has got some Bigfoot action going on.

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Have you do you know? Have
you heard of any other places in northern

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Minnesota that have had things happen Bigfoot
related. I'm trying to think of north

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of like, but Midgie I've heard
of. I've read a couple of reports

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that would be more central northern Minnesota. But it's I don't have I don't

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remember off the top of my head. One thing I didn't ask is,

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at any point during the trip in
twenty one, when you're experiencing the wood

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Knox you saw something up the hill, things like that, did your emotional

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state change in any way or how
you were feeling or how are you reacting

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to that? No? Not,
no, nothing. Nothing really made me

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fearful or unnerved at all. It
was just that was weird. That's a

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weird coincidence kind of feeling. It
wasn't ever I never got I never felt

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like I shouldn't shouldn't be there,
or like I something was wrong. Sometimes

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people are really affected sometimes Now you
never know how it's going to affect you

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for sure. But it's a very
interesting area and I feel like there's probably

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going to be a few people that
listen to this and it's going to stir

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a little bit of Ornate's So do
you mind stating again that you said Brutal

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Lake, right, Brule Lake.
It's a giant lake north of Lutson,

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Minnesota. Gotcha. So that's that's
the area we're looking at, guys that

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let's say twenty mile radius around Brule
Lake. So if we listeners, if

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you've experienced anything up there, please
reach out or you can always leave stuff

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in the comments as well. We're
going to listen to the other interview that

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was from a few years ago in
a few minutes. But Sean, thank

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you for reaching out. I'm glad
we were able to get this documented and

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out in the open and maybe dive
into some other boundary waters encounters because of

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this, So thank you so much. Thank you. Thanks for having me

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on. It feels nice to actually
talk about it, you know, with

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people other than just friends. All
right, big for society. Today,

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I've got the privilege of talking to
Leslie, who's an outdoors woman and bow

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hunter. Thanks for coming on the
podcast today, Leslie. How's it going.

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It's going well. Thanks for having
me now, Leslie, You've had

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a ton of really interesting experiences and
I love to get into those right aways,

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so let's get right into it.
Okay, great, Well, thank

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you again. I'll share a little
bit about myself and how I was raised,

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which i'll help the listeners kind of
understand how I got to most recent

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encounters out in Montana. I was
born and raised in the Midwest, in

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a suburb of a city outside of
Saint Paul, Minnesota, and there's a

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trend in that area to go north
for the weekends. People you know,

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do their work week and then they
hop in their vehicles and they head north

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to lake country where there's woods and
water. And I grew up in this

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way, and I hunted and fished
with my dad growing up, and I've

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always had a love for the woods, and so that puts me out into

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the wild still today, where I
go fishing and hunting and just pick foraging

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for wild berries and mushrooms and things. I just really enjoy the outdoors.

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My first potential encounter, and I
did not lay eyes on what this was.

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Curt. In two thousand, I
was up in the Boundary Water Canoe

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area, which is in the northern
part of the state of Minnesota, and

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it's the boundary of Minnesota and Canada, and I was on a grouse hunting

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and fishing trip with my dad and
several of I often found myself surrounded by

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these guys growing up because they loved
to hunt and fish too, and that's

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who I spent my time with.
Mostly. We were up there and it

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was midday and I wanted to go
grouse hunting, and all the guys wanted

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to hang back at camp, and
so I decided that I was going to

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just walk on foot and go to
a trail. And where we were was

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if you look at Lake Superior and
the west side of Lake Superior in Minnesota,

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and you go up Lake Superia and
you find a town named Hoveland,

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Minnesota. We were northwest of there, about twenty miles and I left camp

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on foot with my twelve gage shotgun, and I was going to go look

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for grouse. And there was a
hiking trail not far from where we camped

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that headed kind of northeast and away
from camp, and so I thought,

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well, I'll just go walk that
trail. And when you're hunting for grouse,

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if you don't have a dog to
help flushbirds, you just walk quietly

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and listen. And so at that
time I had no knowledge of bigfoot activity.

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I hadn't really done any looking into
bigfoot behaviors or anything of that nature.

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It just wasn't anything I ever thought
about. So I have my shotgun

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and I'm walking down this path,
and the terrain in this area is if

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you've watched the show Port Protection and
you see that port protection gets a lot

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of rain and the ground is mossy
and wet. It seems like it's always

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wet in port Protection. That's a
lot like how it is up in the

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Boundary waters. There's a lot of
rain, there's a lot of marshland.

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It's not mossy like it isn't poor
protection, but it's just wet, muddy,

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terrainy. You don't really want to
go off trail. And so there

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was a hiking trail that was at
least five miles long, if not longer,

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and I thought, well, I'll
just hike down this trail real quiet

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and look and listen for grouse.
And so without a dog, you just

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walk real slow, trying not to
make any noise, and you might take

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twenty or thirty steps and then you
stop and you listen, and grouse are

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going to make a real quiet noise
that sounds like water droplets, And so

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you stop and listen, and you
listen for the grouse to make noise,

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and you watch for them, you
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you might look up in trees.
They might be perched there. But that's

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what I was doing as I was
just taking a hike by myself, very

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slow and watching for grouse. And
I was about probably a half mile down

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this trail and kind of moderately dense
forest around me, and the trail was

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mostly hard packed mud, so I
wasn't making any noise when I was stepping

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walking and stepping over rocks. It's
a very rocky terrain up there, and

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I would stop and listen. So
at one point I stopped taking a step

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and listened, and I heard a
step off to the side of me,

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and I forget since it was two
thousand and a figo was left or right

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side of me. But I heard
a step of footfall after I stopped walking,

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and I thought immediately it's probably a
grouse, and so I just turned

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all my attention in that direction and
just listened, and I heard nothing,

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and I stood there waiting for this
grouse to move, and nothing moved,

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and so I just continued taking a
few steps, and I thought, I

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wonder if that grouse is going to
move again, And so then I stopped

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walking again, and I heard another
footfall after I'd stopped walking, and so

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again I'm staring in this area and
I cannot see what it is that's moving,

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and I think well, that's you
know, it's a grouse. I

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can't see. They're pretty well camouflaged, and I figured it was just off

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far enough I couldn't see it.
So I continued to walk and stop.

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But then I heard a stick break
on one time when I stopped walking,

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and the next step and footfall,
a stick broke, and so then I

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realized I was being flanked by something. And having grown up in the hunting

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and fishing, I've hunted white tailed
deer, and I've had bear around me,

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and wolves and coyotes and foxes,
and I hadn't been elk hunting yet

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at that point in time my life. But I've heard animals walking through the

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woods, and this was not an
animal with four legs walking on the ground.

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It sounded like a footfall, you
know, It's like one foot setting

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down. I didn't know what it
was, and I thought maybe it could

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have been a mountain lion. But
then I wondered if I would have hear

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the mountain lion or not. Rather
than continue on down the path, I

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just took my gun off safety and
I held it kind of at the ready,

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kind of my arms are folded,
and my twelve gage was up.

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You know, kind of clutching it
against my body so I wouldn't have to

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bring it up if I had to
shoot in some direction. And I turned

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and I hustled out of there,
and I did stop once or twice on

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my way back down that trail back
towards camp, and this creature was still

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pacing me, and I couldn't see
it. I never saw it. So

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that was that incident, and I
never saw the creature. But I went

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back to camp and I shared with
my dad what had happened, and he

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said, it was probably just a
big cat following you, which I've never

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seen up there. Doesn't mean they
don't exist. I'm sure they do mountain

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lions, but I've never seen one
in the wild. So that was the

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first incident, and I didn't think
much of it after that. I kind

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of put it in the back of
my mind and probably hoped I was never

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paced again out in the wild.
But fast forward to last fall, September

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twenty twenty two. I have a
cousin. His name is Mike, and

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Mike lives in Montana, and he
moved from Minnesota out to Montana maybe forty

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years ago, and he's an avid
outdoorsman, probably one of the best big

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game hunters I'll ever know in my
entire life. Just a real smart hunter

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and really a good man, good
family man, has a great family.

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Having my cousin live out there,
I've never gone big game hunting or hunting

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for elk with him, and I
reached out and a couple of years ago

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started traveling out to Montana to bow
hunt elk with him. Last year was

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my third year traveling out to bowhunt
elk with him, and we were in

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a new location hunting. We were
in the Tobacco Root mountains and there were

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three encounters there, which I'll talk
about. So I'm going to set this

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up soely understand who was experiencing these
encounters. Had my cousin, Mike,

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who's been an avid hunter's whole life. He's hunted every large game animal you

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could hunt, probably in the US
or Canada. He's hunted a lot his

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whole life, so he's just a
pro. So Mike was out there a

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relative of his on his wife's side
of the family. He was hunting with

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us, and my son was along
as well. So there was four of

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us and we had been hunting for
several days and the relative of Mike's wife.

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He had arched an elk, and
that elk was in the cooler or

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in the freezer and cooler for a
couple days and then or about a day,

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and he was going to go out
and do some scouting look for fresh

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elk tracks because we hadn't been seeing
elk that week. They weren't calling,

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they weren't moving, it was pretty
quiet. So he had already got his

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elk. So he took off by
himself one morning to go scout and look

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for fresh elk tracks in places we
hadn't been yet in that area in the

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Tobacco Room mountain. So he came
back to camp after that scouting morning and

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00:29:51.480 --> 00:29:56.359
said that he found a spot where
one logging road ended, and he parked

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his vehicle or his truck, and
he walked up the draw and found two

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wallows and wallows for the listeners who
aren't familiar with that term, that is

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a mud hole essentially that's created by
elk using their antlers. And the elk

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liked to roll around in these mud
holes to get mud on their hide,

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00:30:19.119 --> 00:30:23.079
on their fur, and they like
to do it once or twice a day

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typically, And so there's all sorts
of fresh elk sign around these wallows.

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So we found two wallows and I'll
describe the terrain we were in for this

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hunt. So he came back from
scouting and he marked the two wallows on

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his on ex app GPS style app
that we use for hunting, and he

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shared the coordinates with me. Big
for Society will be right back after these

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messages, and the decision was made
after he had scouted this and found the

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tracks and found the wallows. So
that was the best sign that we had

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00:31:15.759 --> 00:31:18.160
seen all week for elk, and
so that was probably the best chance if

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00:31:18.160 --> 00:31:22.440
we were by those wallows to get
a chance to arch and elk. I

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00:31:22.559 --> 00:31:26.680
my son headed up to this area
that evening to go sit and the plan

438
00:31:26.920 --> 00:31:33.480
was to hike up to the wallows
and to pick the wallow that looked most

439
00:31:33.519 --> 00:31:37.880
active and have my son set off
to if you were looking up hill,

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have him set off to the left
side of the wallow, and I would

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00:31:41.440 --> 00:31:44.839
set off to the right side of
the wallow at the same elevation. And

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with the thermals and the mountains,
we expected the breeze to come down the

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00:31:48.799 --> 00:31:52.400
mountain and carry our scent downhill towards
where we parked, and so we expected

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00:31:52.400 --> 00:31:56.240
all activity at the wallows. If
anything was going to happen with Elk,

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00:31:56.519 --> 00:32:00.759
we expected to come from up high
to come down to the to the wallows

446
00:32:01.279 --> 00:32:09.119
that afternoon. So we parked the
truck and we hiked up this drainage area

447
00:32:09.279 --> 00:32:15.079
and it's a little bit marshy and
mucky, and you know, it's hardwoods

448
00:32:15.119 --> 00:32:19.160
and boulders and you know, you're
climbing up this area. And we went

449
00:32:19.240 --> 00:32:22.640
uphill up this draw. It took
us about an hour and fifteen minutes to

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00:32:22.680 --> 00:32:29.400
get up to where these wallows were, and we got settled down. My

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00:32:29.519 --> 00:32:30.720
son was on one side of the
wallow. I was on the other.

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We're about thirty yards away from where
the wallow was, but we could see

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00:32:35.079 --> 00:32:37.519
it, and we're just waiting.
And we had agreed, my son and

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00:32:37.559 --> 00:32:43.000
I had agreed we would sit until
seven pm and then we would meet back

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00:32:43.039 --> 00:32:45.319
at the wallow and then head back
down the draw to where the truck was

456
00:32:45.359 --> 00:32:50.640
parked on this dead end logging road. And so while we were sitting there,

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00:32:50.880 --> 00:32:55.960
my son hasn't really looked into Sasquat
or even talking about it. You

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00:32:57.039 --> 00:33:01.039
know, he wasn't necessarily a believer
or an hoor or thinking that that was

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00:33:01.079 --> 00:33:05.559
a possibility or anything. But we
were sitting there and it was. We

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00:33:05.599 --> 00:33:09.640
had agreed to meet at the wallow
and if anything came up, although neither

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00:33:09.640 --> 00:33:15.839
one of us were expert out callers, very novice probably sounded pretty sick making

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00:33:15.880 --> 00:33:17.920
a call. If anything came up, we would call to each other and

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00:33:17.960 --> 00:33:21.880
then meet at the wallow. So
we were sitting there. It was very

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00:33:21.920 --> 00:33:24.680
quiet. There was no wind.
I could hear nothing moving, you know,

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00:33:24.759 --> 00:33:30.880
no animals, no pine squirrels,
nothing. And I heard a tree

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00:33:30.960 --> 00:33:35.039
knock. And that tree knock was
uphill from us, you know, high

467
00:33:35.039 --> 00:33:38.559
little higher elevation, but it was
more over on the left side of the

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00:33:38.599 --> 00:33:44.200
wallow where my son was sitting,
but up the draw from him, so

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00:33:44.319 --> 00:33:47.200
further up, and it didn't sound
like it was too much further up,

470
00:33:47.839 --> 00:33:52.759
and so much like getting the tension
of a dog when the dog's ears go

471
00:33:52.839 --> 00:33:59.920
up and its headcocks to the side. When that tree knock happened, I

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00:34:00.119 --> 00:34:04.599
immediately all of my energy focused on
that area, and I was just looking

473
00:34:05.559 --> 00:34:08.119
and trying to figure out what it
was that I heard, because it was

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00:34:08.599 --> 00:34:13.679
the sound was like taking a Louisville
slugger wouldn't bat and walking up to a

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00:34:13.719 --> 00:34:19.159
telephone pole and hitting it as hard
as you can, just you know,

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00:34:19.280 --> 00:34:23.119
just real loud and distinct. One
big knock, and I'm trying to think

477
00:34:23.159 --> 00:34:27.079
of what that could be, and
I'm trying not to let all my sasquatch

478
00:34:27.280 --> 00:34:30.960
interest play a role here. And
I thought, wow, that was a

479
00:34:30.960 --> 00:34:36.559
pretty loud knock. And I'm just
sitting there and it's still just like super

480
00:34:36.639 --> 00:34:43.400
quiet, and I hear a second
knock, same exact location, and I

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00:34:43.480 --> 00:34:47.039
thought, that is a tree knock. And I got my cow bleat like

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00:34:47.159 --> 00:34:52.960
read out of my pocket and I
made a cow talk noise, which wasn't

483
00:34:52.000 --> 00:34:57.320
great, and my son recognized that
it was me calling to him, and

484
00:34:57.400 --> 00:35:05.519
he answered my call with his cow
talk, and he started getting his He

485
00:35:05.559 --> 00:35:07.840
took his arrow out of his bow
and put in his quiver and was kind

486
00:35:07.840 --> 00:35:09.960
of getting ready to walk and meet
me at the wallow. I looked at

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00:35:09.960 --> 00:35:13.960
my phone at that point, which
was in my pocket. I never thought

488
00:35:14.960 --> 00:35:17.760
in that moment to take my phone
on my pocket, because when you're out

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00:35:17.840 --> 00:35:22.039
hunting, especially bow hunting, you
want to be as still as possible,

490
00:35:22.400 --> 00:35:24.519
as little movement as possible, because
the animals will pick up on it,

491
00:35:25.119 --> 00:35:28.800
and so the last thing you want
to do is quickly reach for something if

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00:35:28.880 --> 00:35:32.199
you think an animal is coming.
So I just I didn't get my phone

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00:35:32.239 --> 00:35:37.719
out before this had I thought it
was going to be a bigfoot or possibly

494
00:35:37.760 --> 00:35:40.199
a bigfoot. I know you'd think, wh wouldn't you describe your phone and

495
00:35:40.199 --> 00:35:44.360
start recording at least the tree knox
or something. But that was the furthest

496
00:35:44.360 --> 00:35:46.719
thing from my mind. It was
really fear and shock. I think I

497
00:35:46.840 --> 00:35:52.159
was kind of going into in that
moment. So I cow talked to him.

498
00:35:52.159 --> 00:35:54.639
He cow talked back. He started
getting his stuff packed up to move

499
00:35:54.719 --> 00:36:00.280
to meet me at the wallow,
as did I. And I heard this

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00:36:00.440 --> 00:36:04.960
creature, whatever it was, which
was up the draw and maybe a little

501
00:36:05.000 --> 00:36:07.480
left of me, more in my
son's direction. I heard it take some

502
00:36:07.760 --> 00:36:12.519
steps, you know, it was
like three or four steps if you looked

503
00:36:12.599 --> 00:36:15.599
up the draw up the mountain.
It went from left to right, and

504
00:36:15.639 --> 00:36:19.000
then it came down the draw on
the right hand side of me, and

505
00:36:19.079 --> 00:36:22.239
all I heard was three or four
steps, and I heard it break a

506
00:36:22.360 --> 00:36:27.400
twig downhill from me, but off
to my right hand side when it had

507
00:36:27.480 --> 00:36:31.440
started uphill from me on my left
hand side, so three or four footfalls,

508
00:36:31.480 --> 00:36:37.000
it covered seventy five yards or more
one hundred yards. It just it

509
00:36:37.079 --> 00:36:42.199
covered so much ground in those step
step step when it snapped a twig.

510
00:36:42.400 --> 00:36:45.079
I don't know what could cover that
much ground in those few steps, unless

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00:36:45.199 --> 00:36:50.239
I didn't hear the steps in between
those and they were shorter, or if

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00:36:50.280 --> 00:36:53.480
there was more than one creature around
me. But the directions of the steps

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00:36:53.480 --> 00:36:57.719
were that way from upper left,
and then it went across above me in

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00:36:57.760 --> 00:37:00.679
elevation, and then it came down
to my right hand side, was heading

515
00:37:00.719 --> 00:37:04.239
down the draw in the direction of
where my truck was parked. I meet

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00:37:04.280 --> 00:37:07.119
my son at the wallow. He
walks up to it. I walk up

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00:37:07.119 --> 00:37:12.159
to it and he said what was
that? And I said, what did

518
00:37:12.239 --> 00:37:14.039
you hear? And we talked about
it, and I said, let's get

519
00:37:14.039 --> 00:37:15.760
off the mountain. And when I
had grabbed my phone and looked at it

520
00:37:15.800 --> 00:37:19.800
after I cow talked to him,
it was ten minutes to seven and we

521
00:37:19.800 --> 00:37:22.559
had agreed to meet at seven o'clock
at the wallow. But I couldn't wait.

522
00:37:22.719 --> 00:37:24.719
I had to get out of there
in that moment, and I had

523
00:37:24.719 --> 00:37:30.719
to get I was worried that these
knocks were over by him, and he

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00:37:30.800 --> 00:37:35.000
only had a nine millimeter he was
carrying, and I was carrying at ten,

525
00:37:35.519 --> 00:37:37.480
and so I at least wanted to
get us together, so we at

526
00:37:37.559 --> 00:37:40.960
least had those two handguns, you
know, together versus just his alone.

527
00:37:42.119 --> 00:37:46.159
Should something happen that was, you
know, requiring us to pull our guns.

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00:37:46.199 --> 00:37:49.440
I said, let's get out of
here. It took us an hour

529
00:37:49.480 --> 00:37:52.199
and fifteen minutes to get up.
It took us about twenty minutes to get

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00:37:52.239 --> 00:37:57.199
down, and we semi ran down
the draw to get to the truck.

531
00:37:57.320 --> 00:38:01.559
So we're moving pretty quick. We
went back back to camp. My cousin

532
00:38:01.719 --> 00:38:06.480
and the relative from his wife's side
were there at camp. They didn't go

533
00:38:06.480 --> 00:38:09.400
out hunting that afternoon. They were
processing the elk that this other, the

534
00:38:09.440 --> 00:38:14.800
other person with us, harvested the
day before. So they were in camp

535
00:38:14.840 --> 00:38:19.280
processing. There were no other hunters
around, there were no other vehicles around,

536
00:38:19.599 --> 00:38:22.960
really kind of out there by ourselves. So we go back to camp

537
00:38:23.159 --> 00:38:30.119
and I share with them what happened
and what we heard with the knocking and

538
00:38:30.159 --> 00:38:35.400
the walking and the gentleman with us
that had harvested the elk. He said,

539
00:38:35.880 --> 00:38:38.480
oh, the same thing happened to
me this morning. So he experienced

540
00:38:38.480 --> 00:38:44.239
exactly, or what I thought was
exactly my son and I had experienced that

541
00:38:44.360 --> 00:38:46.880
morning. But he gave us the
coordinates to go back up there that evening

542
00:38:46.920 --> 00:38:51.320
to sit for the hunt. And
so we went up there, not knowing

543
00:38:51.320 --> 00:38:54.039
that that had happened to him.
But I described where this creature walked and

544
00:38:54.079 --> 00:38:58.840
its footfalls and how far it got, and he said exactly the same thing

545
00:38:59.199 --> 00:39:01.280
in terms of the n and where
they came from and the walking away.

546
00:39:01.360 --> 00:39:06.320
So I thought that was too much
of a coincidence to not cause alarm for

547
00:39:06.440 --> 00:39:10.960
me. And so sitting around that
evening, we decided that the next day

548
00:39:13.159 --> 00:39:15.079
the four of us were going to
go hunt that area because that's where the

549
00:39:15.079 --> 00:39:19.960
elk tracks were and we really wanted
to harvest another elk. And so that

550
00:39:20.039 --> 00:39:22.840
particular area in the Tobaccoo Mountains,
the road that I had parked on the

551
00:39:22.920 --> 00:39:27.360
night before and walked up that was
a lower logging road. There was a

552
00:39:27.400 --> 00:39:31.599
logging road above this area as well, so you could drive the upper logging

553
00:39:31.679 --> 00:39:37.599
road and park and then walk down
this draw. The next morning, my

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00:39:37.719 --> 00:39:43.159
son and this other gentleman drove on
the upper logging road and parked, and

555
00:39:43.199 --> 00:39:45.920
the plan was for them to come
down the draw. I'm going to say

556
00:39:45.920 --> 00:39:51.320
it's east east of the wallows.
That's where they came down the draw and

557
00:39:51.400 --> 00:39:58.840
they stopped at the same elevation as
the wallows, and my cousin Mike,

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00:39:58.880 --> 00:40:01.639
and I parked at the where my
son and I parked the night before and

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00:40:01.760 --> 00:40:07.079
went up the draw and we went
up to where the wallow was that my

560
00:40:07.119 --> 00:40:09.800
son and I were hunting on at
the same elevation the other two guys were

561
00:40:09.800 --> 00:40:15.280
at and together at that time.
They were bugling and kow talking back and

562
00:40:15.360 --> 00:40:20.800
forth. We were as two separate
groups to try and get some elk moving

563
00:40:20.840 --> 00:40:23.960
in the area, to see if
we could create some excitement for elk so

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00:40:23.960 --> 00:40:29.039
that we could maybe see one.
This other gentleman would bugle or cow talk,

565
00:40:29.119 --> 00:40:31.159
and then my cousin, who's an
expert caller, he would do the

566
00:40:31.199 --> 00:40:36.119
same back or a similar call or
answer. We did this for a little

567
00:40:36.159 --> 00:40:42.719
while until my cousin and I were
standing by the wallow and doing this kow

568
00:40:42.800 --> 00:40:45.679
talk and bugling and just having periods
of quiet time, you know, ten

569
00:40:45.719 --> 00:40:49.719
minutes of just standing there listening,
and then there would be more talking,

570
00:40:49.880 --> 00:40:53.079
you know, uh kow talking or
whatever. We were hunting. Basically,

571
00:40:53.159 --> 00:40:57.639
there was a treeknock in the same
spot it happened the night before, and

572
00:40:57.800 --> 00:41:01.960
the same spot that happened to the
other gentleman the morning before. And I

573
00:41:02.199 --> 00:41:07.760
just looked at Mike and I he
said, was that a tree knock?

574
00:41:07.800 --> 00:41:12.239
He looked at me, and I
just shook my head yes or said yes

575
00:41:12.360 --> 00:41:17.159
or something real quiet because the woods
were so quiet. And so he reaches

576
00:41:17.199 --> 00:41:21.840
down and he grabs a stick that
he finds and it was thicker than a

577
00:41:21.840 --> 00:41:24.960
baseball bat, but he found a
stick, and he just held one finger

578
00:41:25.039 --> 00:41:30.079
up to me, like hang on
a second, and he whacked that stick

579
00:41:30.119 --> 00:41:34.320
on the tree to knock back.
And when he did that, his stick

580
00:41:34.440 --> 00:41:37.800
broke into many pieces. It was
like a rotten branch or something. But

581
00:41:37.880 --> 00:41:42.840
it was a knock. And he
dropped that piece that was still in his

582
00:41:42.880 --> 00:41:47.840
hand, and we stood there and
this thing knocked back, so it responded

583
00:41:47.840 --> 00:41:52.119
to his knock. And again,
this thing is so close to us,

584
00:41:52.159 --> 00:41:54.960
we couldn't see it, but it
was like knocking what would be probably if

585
00:41:54.960 --> 00:41:59.840
you're in thick woods, imagine twenty
yards away or thirty yards away. That's

586
00:42:00.039 --> 00:42:05.159
twenty large steps or thirty large steps
away is where the snock came back from.

587
00:42:05.360 --> 00:42:07.440
And it just felt like it was
just so close to us. And

588
00:42:07.519 --> 00:42:16.039
I looked at him and probably used
some colorful language and said, let's get

589
00:42:16.079 --> 00:42:21.360
out of here. And unbeknownst to
me, he was angled away from me.

590
00:42:21.760 --> 00:42:24.599
And he carried his big bear gun
on his right hip, kind of

591
00:42:24.639 --> 00:42:30.360
in his ribcage area. And my
gun is a chest holster gun with a

592
00:42:30.480 --> 00:42:36.039
leather strap that goes over it to
hold it in the holster. And I

593
00:42:36.079 --> 00:42:39.000
didn't know this, but he unholstered
his gun, and that side of his

594
00:42:39.039 --> 00:42:43.760
body was facing away from me.
That side of his body was facing the

595
00:42:43.800 --> 00:42:47.159
direction of where this tree knocking was
coming from. So he unholsters his gun

596
00:42:47.480 --> 00:42:52.320
and looks at me, and he
makes a motion with his hand for me

597
00:42:52.400 --> 00:42:59.199
to unsnap the leather strap that straps
my ten millimeter into its holster on my

598
00:42:59.320 --> 00:43:02.559
chest. And so when he told
me to do that and get ready,

599
00:43:04.320 --> 00:43:08.519
like I maybe I went ashen or
all white or something. I was just

600
00:43:08.599 --> 00:43:14.079
it was pretty scary. So I
knew a guy who spent his life hunting

601
00:43:14.199 --> 00:43:19.119
in the mountains for a large game
for him to unholster his gun because he

602
00:43:19.159 --> 00:43:22.360
feels a threat that's pretty serious in
my books, and I have a lot

603
00:43:22.360 --> 00:43:25.320
of respect for his honety, knowledge
and everything. So when he's telling me

604
00:43:25.360 --> 00:43:31.119
to get ready, I unsnapped that
leather strap and I grabbed on to my

605
00:43:31.199 --> 00:43:35.000
gun. I didn't onholestrip, but
I was ready to if I needed to.

606
00:43:35.639 --> 00:43:37.000
So I had my bow in one
hand and my other hand up on

607
00:43:37.079 --> 00:43:44.559
my handle of my gun, And
just as I was unsnapping that leather strap

608
00:43:44.599 --> 00:43:49.519
on my holster, whatever this creature
was, it led out a sound that

609
00:43:50.519 --> 00:43:55.960
I've heard somebody describe in another podcast
recently. Actually Mike called my attention to

610
00:43:57.000 --> 00:44:00.639
it my cousin. But it was
a sound of a lot of air leaving

611
00:44:01.360 --> 00:44:05.960
a lot of lung capacity, you
know, big lungs, and an exhale

612
00:44:06.000 --> 00:44:10.119
with a huff in disgust. So
if you can imagine just the most disgusted

613
00:44:10.679 --> 00:44:15.599
loud huff that if I could assign
an emotion to it, I would say

614
00:44:15.599 --> 00:44:20.320
disgust. And it was probably about
the same time that Mike was unholstering his

615
00:44:20.519 --> 00:44:23.280
gun. He unholstered his gun,
looked at me, and gave me the

616
00:44:23.320 --> 00:44:27.960
motion to unsnap that leather strap,
which I did, and this thing huffed,

617
00:44:28.920 --> 00:44:32.599
and he turned to face the direction
of where this thing was huffing from.

618
00:44:34.000 --> 00:44:37.880
And it then walked in the same
direction it had walked for my son

619
00:44:37.960 --> 00:44:40.159
and I the night before, and
the same direction it walked for the other

620
00:44:40.239 --> 00:44:45.320
gentleman the morning before, and it
went down the hill and again it was

621
00:44:45.400 --> 00:44:49.920
just a few steps and it was
out of there. I said, we

622
00:44:50.000 --> 00:44:52.840
needed to get out of there,
and he agreed, and we walked in

623
00:44:52.880 --> 00:44:55.199
the direction of where the other two
guys were, same elevation. We headed

624
00:44:55.360 --> 00:44:59.039
I'm going to say, to the
east or to the right, and walked

625
00:44:59.079 --> 00:45:02.920
over to them, and they had
heard the tree knocks and they heard the

626
00:45:04.000 --> 00:45:07.079
walking because it had walked down the
draw between where we were and where they

627
00:45:07.159 --> 00:45:12.440
were. And so we walked over
there and we were kind of debriefing on

628
00:45:12.519 --> 00:45:15.639
what was going on, and that's
when the other gentleman, who had already

629
00:45:15.639 --> 00:45:20.159
harvested as Elk, who was there
calling and looking for deer while we were

630
00:45:20.159 --> 00:45:25.320
looking for Elk. He had said
that when he had his encounter twenty four

631
00:45:25.320 --> 00:45:31.519
hours earlier, that he had unholstered
his gun and that this creature did that

632
00:45:31.679 --> 00:45:36.360
huff at him as well in disgust, and he said, the way that

633
00:45:36.400 --> 00:45:38.880
you describe it is exactly how it
happened to me. Big for society,

634
00:45:38.880 --> 00:45:59.239
who will be right back after these
messages? And so I'm thinking, wait

635
00:45:59.239 --> 00:46:01.679
a minute, you had all this
information that you didn't share with us,

636
00:46:01.679 --> 00:46:06.360
and then you sent us into this
area where all these things happened. As

637
00:46:06.360 --> 00:46:09.400
it turned out, he unholstered his
gun and he ran down the mountain to

638
00:46:09.480 --> 00:46:12.639
get out of there. I don't
know if he ran, but he got

639
00:46:12.639 --> 00:46:16.199
out of there quick because he said
that he was it scared him. Whatever

640
00:46:16.239 --> 00:46:21.559
it was it was, he didn't
know what it was, having been having

641
00:46:22.079 --> 00:46:24.679
grown up in the woods and hunting
and listened to the animals move. I

642
00:46:24.800 --> 00:46:30.280
just can't figure out what would have
single footfalls and what would make that noise,

643
00:46:30.760 --> 00:46:36.880
and do the knocks and knock back, and everything keeps coming back for

644
00:46:37.000 --> 00:46:43.320
me. But I didn't lay eyes
on it. I did contact a game

645
00:46:43.360 --> 00:46:47.280
warden about a month after this happened
or more to report it, or several

646
00:46:47.280 --> 00:46:53.559
weeks later to report the incident and
provide the coordinates, and that particular game

647
00:46:53.599 --> 00:46:58.639
warden said they lived five miles from
that location and would definitely go check it

648
00:46:58.679 --> 00:47:01.960
out, so suggested that he didn't
go alone, he would bring someone with

649
00:47:02.119 --> 00:47:07.199
because this was I didn't see any
tracks, but it just sounded like a

650
00:47:07.199 --> 00:47:13.239
bay animal. It covered a lot
of ground pretty quickly. So that is

651
00:47:13.599 --> 00:47:17.039
basically the first encounter of whether it
was an encounter or not. The pacing

652
00:47:17.079 --> 00:47:21.920
in two thousand and then these three
three accounts in the same exact area and

653
00:47:21.920 --> 00:47:25.559
the behavior that we encountered. Can
I ask a few questions before? Okay,

654
00:47:25.679 --> 00:47:30.320
that's absolutely incredible. So your cousin
Mike is a big game hunter.

655
00:47:30.039 --> 00:47:36.199
I'm sure he's very familiar with the
animals in that area. Are there any

656
00:47:36.280 --> 00:47:40.599
other animals that could make a huff
sound like that? It sounded like he

657
00:47:40.760 --> 00:47:47.239
was. I mean, he was
ready with his gun for something. He

658
00:47:47.360 --> 00:47:53.159
absolutely was ready with his gun.
I didn't know that he unholstered his gun

659
00:47:53.920 --> 00:47:57.800
when he told me to get ready. You know, when he gave me

660
00:47:57.840 --> 00:48:01.840
that hand motion to unsnap the leather
strap that was holding my gun in that

661
00:48:01.960 --> 00:48:06.440
is when I realized he had unhole
street his gun. And that is about

662
00:48:06.440 --> 00:48:10.760
the time when this creature did that
disgusted huff. And that's when he then

663
00:48:10.800 --> 00:48:15.920
turned to face that direction and we
were both just looking as hard as we

664
00:48:15.960 --> 00:48:20.039
could to try and see what this
was. And then it walked off and

665
00:48:20.079 --> 00:48:22.039
we couldn't see it. We could
hear it walk off, and we never

666
00:48:22.119 --> 00:48:27.519
saw it. It was but a
he is a very avid hunter. He's

667
00:48:27.519 --> 00:48:30.519
been hunting his whole life. He's
been hunting those mountains his whole life.

668
00:48:30.119 --> 00:48:34.519
But he didn't he couldn't figure out
what it is. I know it bothers

669
00:48:34.599 --> 00:48:38.639
him like it bothers me today thinking
about it in terms of we just neither

670
00:48:38.679 --> 00:48:42.880
one of us really want to see
it or wanted to see it or have

671
00:48:43.000 --> 00:48:46.400
the encounter. But to see it
then would have put to rest the what

672
00:48:46.599 --> 00:48:50.599
was it? But I just don't
know what else it could have been.

673
00:48:51.280 --> 00:48:54.199
The tree knock back, like if
you would say an elk would use its

674
00:48:54.360 --> 00:48:58.559
if an elk took its rack and
hit its rack on a tree, if

675
00:48:58.599 --> 00:49:00.039
they're going to rub their rack on
a tree, they're gonna, you know,

676
00:49:00.119 --> 00:49:04.559
rub it up and down in a
tree. They're not going to hit

677
00:49:04.639 --> 00:49:09.199
it like the sound of a wooden
bat hitting a telephone pole, just a

678
00:49:09.239 --> 00:49:14.639
real loud You can imagine the sound
if you were to go outside and do

679
00:49:14.719 --> 00:49:20.599
that today. That's the sound.
So was that Mike's first potential sasquatch interaction

680
00:49:21.199 --> 00:49:23.840
that you know of. That's an
interesting question because he and I have had

681
00:49:23.880 --> 00:49:30.360
this conversation a few times. And
if he thinks back on hunting in the

682
00:49:30.360 --> 00:49:32.679
mountains over the year, you know, forty years of hunting, it's a

683
00:49:32.719 --> 00:49:38.280
long time. And he said,
there's been times where roads that were passable

684
00:49:38.360 --> 00:49:42.400
would have a log drug over them, and like they would be going in

685
00:49:42.480 --> 00:49:45.920
somewhere and then come back out and
there's a log drug over the road where

686
00:49:45.960 --> 00:49:52.760
they had passed. The When people
talk about hearing the screaming that you can't

687
00:49:53.119 --> 00:49:57.960
figure out what it is that's screaming
like a woman screaming in the woods.

688
00:49:58.000 --> 00:50:00.760
And he knows all the animals sound, you know, the cats, the

689
00:50:00.800 --> 00:50:06.159
foxes, the all these sounds.
He knows them all well, and he

690
00:50:06.280 --> 00:50:13.360
had that experience once. But he, like me, never thought about sasquatch

691
00:50:13.639 --> 00:50:21.440
ever until I started asking him questions
after I had heard about the pacing situations,

692
00:50:21.480 --> 00:50:24.199
and then I thought about my experience
in the Boundary waters up in Minnesota,

693
00:50:24.400 --> 00:50:29.280
northern Minnesota years ago. I then
decided to ask him if he'd ever

694
00:50:29.559 --> 00:50:34.000
seen anything out of the ordinary,
which then started him down the path of

695
00:50:34.079 --> 00:50:37.239
listening to some podcasts and doing his
own you know, armchair research, you

696
00:50:37.280 --> 00:50:44.599
know, listening at listening to podcasts, reading, et cetera. So that's

697
00:50:44.800 --> 00:50:49.360
very very interesting. Have you guys
ever experienced any you know, something Can

698
00:50:49.440 --> 00:50:55.320
mentioned was experiencing finding grizzlies I believe
out there with their next broken. Is

699
00:50:55.360 --> 00:51:01.519
that anything that you've ever run into
out there? No, very thankful for

700
00:51:01.599 --> 00:51:06.880
that. My fear would be running
into a grizzly. And he's actually run

701
00:51:06.880 --> 00:51:12.559
into grizzlies out there over the years
when he's been out hunting, and he's

702
00:51:12.599 --> 00:51:15.840
never mentioned that he's run into that. Just looking back at that and knowing

703
00:51:15.880 --> 00:51:22.159
that there weren't many people around that
entire we were probably there for I think

704
00:51:22.199 --> 00:51:25.559
seven or eight days. We might
have seen three other hunters in different places

705
00:51:25.599 --> 00:51:30.880
around the mountains. I mean,
that's a lot of country to hunt,

706
00:51:30.880 --> 00:51:34.920
and it just doesn't make sense to
us as we think back on it,

707
00:51:35.199 --> 00:51:37.880
that it could have been a prank, you know, by another hunter.

708
00:51:38.360 --> 00:51:43.480
Would hunters just when they're too busy
hunting to want to prank others in this

709
00:51:43.599 --> 00:51:46.280
way? Right? Why would a
hunter go to the exact same location and

710
00:51:46.400 --> 00:51:51.639
tree knock and huff, and how
would they cover that distance of walking,

711
00:51:51.960 --> 00:51:55.320
you know, and just a lot
of unanswered questions. But you know that

712
00:51:57.039 --> 00:52:01.400
was the extent off. If you
had seen one, I've you know,

713
00:52:02.079 --> 00:52:07.639
had an actual visual and you were
ready with you know, both hands.

714
00:52:07.039 --> 00:52:10.800
That's something you think about, like
what would have I done in that situation?

715
00:52:12.559 --> 00:52:15.199
And I don't know what I would
have done. I don't know what

716
00:52:15.239 --> 00:52:17.280
I would have done. I knew
I had my hand on my gun,

717
00:52:17.440 --> 00:52:21.719
you know, I knew he had
his gun drawn. I just didn't know

718
00:52:21.880 --> 00:52:24.960
I with I don't know. I
don't want to see one. I didn't

719
00:52:24.960 --> 00:52:27.960
want to see one then, I
don't want to see one now. I

720
00:52:28.000 --> 00:52:30.280
hope I never see one. If
I do, it would be in a

721
00:52:30.360 --> 00:52:34.840
vehicle, would be a long distance
you know, viewing, or somebody else

722
00:52:34.880 --> 00:52:37.880
having a really great sighting that gets
recorded or something. But I don't ever

723
00:52:37.880 --> 00:52:40.440
want to see one. I hope
I never do. I would tend to

724
00:52:40.480 --> 00:52:45.039
want to retreat, just from what
I'm hearing about the size of an adult,

725
00:52:45.800 --> 00:52:49.800
you know, from other sightings,
I'd want to retreat and not risk

726
00:52:49.920 --> 00:52:54.360
taking a shot and that's that's incredible. It's an incredible story. Since the

727
00:52:54.400 --> 00:53:00.519
time that you've had that happen,
have you heard of similar their interactions happening

728
00:53:00.599 --> 00:53:07.519
in the Tobacco Root Mountains. I
have not, and I've been searching for

729
00:53:07.559 --> 00:53:10.679
that. I searched the podcast just
to see if anybody else is talking about

730
00:53:10.679 --> 00:53:15.559
that location, and I just haven't
seen it. And I was looking because

731
00:53:15.559 --> 00:53:19.800
I, you know, you're looking
for validation of what happened, and I

732
00:53:19.880 --> 00:53:24.000
just haven't seen it. I'm I'm
fairly sure it wasn't a bear because and

733
00:53:24.159 --> 00:53:30.039
there are grizzlies there, because a
bear doesn't have thumbs to hold a piece

734
00:53:30.079 --> 00:53:34.400
of wood to hit it on a
tree. And I think a bear would

735
00:53:34.400 --> 00:53:37.159
either come at you or go away. It wouldn't just tree knock and respond

736
00:53:37.199 --> 00:53:42.199
to a tree knock. And you
know, I suppose bears do den or

737
00:53:42.719 --> 00:53:45.280
hang out in spots, but I
just wouldn't think three times in a row

738
00:53:45.320 --> 00:53:50.639
we would have the same activity in
the same place unless it was a spot,

739
00:53:50.679 --> 00:53:52.400
you know, because this was the
only fresh elk sign we had seen

740
00:53:52.920 --> 00:53:57.760
really in all the time there,
because the elk were just in different locations

741
00:53:57.960 --> 00:54:01.079
than where we were, that it
might have been if it was a sasquatch

742
00:54:02.199 --> 00:54:07.239
or a grizzly, but it was
a prime hunting spot for them where they

743
00:54:07.239 --> 00:54:10.639
could look down on the wallows.
Is that area a place that you would

744
00:54:10.639 --> 00:54:15.360
ever go hunting in again or is
that off limits for you now because of

745
00:54:15.400 --> 00:54:20.159
that, that's a great question.
I'm going to be going back out to

746
00:54:20.239 --> 00:54:25.760
Montana elk hunting with the bow again
this year and just haven't decided where we're

747
00:54:25.760 --> 00:54:29.400
going to go yet. I don't
know that i'd want to go to that

748
00:54:29.480 --> 00:54:35.480
specific area, that specific draw where
those wallows were, because that was for

749
00:54:35.559 --> 00:54:38.760
me personally terrifying first to have my
son there, and of course, as

750
00:54:38.760 --> 00:54:44.440
a parent, you want to protect
your kids, but then second to have

751
00:54:44.559 --> 00:54:47.880
somebody who knows those mountains so well
act the way he acted. I knew

752
00:54:49.400 --> 00:54:52.599
that this was something out of the
ordinary. I really don't want to go

753
00:54:52.639 --> 00:54:55.480
to that specific spot again. Now. I don't blame you. I really

754
00:54:55.559 --> 00:55:00.320
don't blame you on that. If
it would feel like I've dodged I've dodged

755
00:55:00.320 --> 00:55:04.159
something a few times. I don't
know if I want to put myself in

756
00:55:04.199 --> 00:55:07.039
that situation again. I don't know
if what happens if lightning strikes again,

757
00:55:07.280 --> 00:55:13.599
you know, right now. Something
interesting about this area is that cattle ranchers

758
00:55:13.639 --> 00:55:20.079
are allowed to let their cattle kind
of free range in this area, and

759
00:55:20.159 --> 00:55:24.800
there were cattle at lower elevations in
this area. And so you think about

760
00:55:24.840 --> 00:55:31.719
the beef on a cow, you
know, and versus elk meet it's interesting

761
00:55:31.760 --> 00:55:36.599
that a cow would be very easy
for a creature of this size and speed

762
00:55:36.639 --> 00:55:39.800
to catch, where an elk would
be difficult to catch or more difficult to

763
00:55:39.840 --> 00:55:45.800
catch. So it's just interesting.
My cousin and I were talking about the

764
00:55:45.840 --> 00:55:49.960
fact that the cows were plentiful,
you know, in that area, so

765
00:55:50.039 --> 00:55:53.599
that was also interesting. Oh.
Absolutely, It's like, make it the

766
00:55:53.639 --> 00:55:59.840
best food source area that you could
for a large animal that needs a ton

767
00:55:59.880 --> 00:56:06.280
of calories per day. Let's give
for apps some huge burgers that are walking

768
00:56:06.320 --> 00:56:09.679
around and have at it boys.
You know, that's phenomenal. Man.

769
00:56:09.719 --> 00:56:13.920
I'd love to talk to some of
those ranchers. I bet they've had some

770
00:56:13.960 --> 00:56:19.280
come up missing for sure if they're
free range. But that has been I

771
00:56:19.320 --> 00:56:23.440
mean, it's an amazing story.
When you were talking to me off camera

772
00:56:23.559 --> 00:56:30.000
earlier and on Facebook, you had
mentioned another thing which and this is a

773
00:56:30.079 --> 00:56:37.039
totally left hand turn out of Bigfoot
territory, but listeners will find it interesting

774
00:56:37.119 --> 00:56:42.840
because of interviews I've had in the
past before. And you've had an interesting

775
00:56:43.199 --> 00:56:46.920
sighting of another creature down in Mississippi, and do you mind sharing about that?

776
00:56:47.639 --> 00:56:53.079
Sure, you're right with it being
a left turn, So I'll set

777
00:56:53.159 --> 00:56:59.519
up the situation or what was going
on. I was driving with my husband

778
00:56:59.679 --> 00:57:07.039
from Minnesota down towards Mobile, Alabama, on January first, and we had

779
00:57:07.119 --> 00:57:10.880
stayed in a hotel for the It
was a two day trip, so the

780
00:57:10.880 --> 00:57:14.239
first night we stayed in the hotel
and then we woke up early in the

781
00:57:14.320 --> 00:57:19.880
morning and then began our drive to
head to Mobile. And we were the

782
00:57:19.880 --> 00:57:25.000
sun had come up and it the
morning kind of fog had lifted, and

783
00:57:25.239 --> 00:57:30.639
we were in Mississippi. And I
can't tell you the exact pinpoint location.

784
00:57:30.800 --> 00:57:37.320
I just know that we were about
fifty miles northwest of Philadelphia, Mississippi.

785
00:57:38.199 --> 00:57:42.440
And what I had done when we
left our hotel that morning I was driving

786
00:57:42.840 --> 00:57:46.639
is I just put our destination into
GPS on my phone and I was following

787
00:57:46.679 --> 00:57:52.920
that and we were on a two
lane road heading southeast and the fog had

788
00:57:52.960 --> 00:57:57.280
lifted. It was seven twenty five
in the morning, because when this happened,

789
00:57:57.599 --> 00:58:00.840
I looked at the clock to see
what time it was, just out

790
00:58:00.880 --> 00:58:06.119
of curiosity. And there was morning
dew kind of or you know, all

791
00:58:06.159 --> 00:58:09.440
the dampness from the fog that happens
down in that area in the winter times.

792
00:58:09.760 --> 00:58:15.599
There was like morning dew on all
the branches of all the trees.

793
00:58:15.639 --> 00:58:21.280
And we were going through a it's
kind of a lowland area and this two

794
00:58:21.360 --> 00:58:24.599
lane road. On the east side
of the road there was there wasn't much

795
00:58:24.639 --> 00:58:28.639
shoulder, it seemed like on this
road. You know, I'm used a

796
00:58:28.639 --> 00:58:30.400
bit more shoulder on a road,
but the road kind of dropped off and

797
00:58:30.440 --> 00:58:37.039
went down ten to twenty feet down
to the forest floor where it was flat,

798
00:58:37.400 --> 00:58:42.840
and there wasn't much greenery growing because
of the time of year being January.

799
00:58:43.039 --> 00:58:45.079
So the sun was coming up,
the fog had lifted, the trees

800
00:58:45.079 --> 00:58:50.199
were sparkling with this morning dew.
Was really pretty. And my husband was

801
00:58:50.280 --> 00:58:57.199
riding in the passenger seat, and
he's never seen anything that I would call

802
00:58:57.280 --> 00:59:01.519
out of the ordinary or paranormal or
cryptid or anything like that. And he's

803
00:59:01.639 --> 00:59:05.599
very gracious and listening with me when
I listen to podcasts and things, but

804
00:59:05.639 --> 00:59:14.360
it's not really his deal. And
I'm driving and something crossed the road in

805
00:59:14.400 --> 00:59:16.000
front of us, and it went
from left to right, so it went

806
00:59:16.000 --> 00:59:22.960
from east to west, and it
went across the road so fast that I

807
00:59:23.320 --> 00:59:29.559
was he saw it the entire way. He saw it come across the road

808
00:59:29.840 --> 00:59:32.159
from left to right, so from
east to west he saw it. It

809
00:59:32.239 --> 00:59:36.960
was maybe fifty yards in front of
us. I was going sixty miles an

810
00:59:37.000 --> 00:59:40.559
hour. And this I'm going to
call it an entity, and I'll describe

811
00:59:40.599 --> 00:59:45.039
it in a minute. Here it
crossed the road, and it crossed the

812
00:59:45.119 --> 00:59:49.400
road. I'm going to make a
noise to share with the audience how quickly

813
00:59:49.440 --> 00:59:54.280
this thing crossed the road. And
it crossed the road like jun like that

814
00:59:54.440 --> 00:59:59.840
fast across a two lane road from
left to right. And where I saw

815
00:59:59.880 --> 01:00:05.679
it at first was in the middle
of my lane as it was heading towards

816
01:00:06.039 --> 01:00:08.840
the right side of the road,
heading towards the west. He saw it

817
01:00:08.840 --> 01:00:13.840
the entire way. So what I
think happened is I blinked at that moment

818
01:00:13.880 --> 01:00:16.239
when it started across the road,
and it was like I blinked, and

819
01:00:16.280 --> 01:00:22.199
it was already in front of my
our vehicle in my lane and heading off

820
01:00:22.280 --> 01:00:27.760
the side of the road, and
I noticed when it crossed the road that

821
01:00:27.840 --> 01:00:30.760
there was a driveway on the right
hand side of the road. And I'm

822
01:00:30.760 --> 01:00:36.239
going to describe. I have to
describe what the layout of that side of

823
01:00:36.239 --> 01:00:38.920
the road was so that it helps. As I on the left, the

824
01:00:39.000 --> 01:00:42.760
road dropped down around the east side
of the road, it dropped down about

825
01:00:42.760 --> 01:00:49.559
ten to twenty feet and it leveled
off flat into lowland swampy wood area big

826
01:00:49.599 --> 01:01:08.880
for society will be right back after
these messages. And on the west side

827
01:01:08.880 --> 01:01:13.519
of the road, or the right
side of the road, there was overgrown

828
01:01:14.440 --> 01:01:21.880
vines and different type of greenery alongside
the road that might have grown over a

829
01:01:21.920 --> 01:01:24.119
fence that might have been there years
ago, but it was very thick and

830
01:01:24.159 --> 01:01:29.400
you couldn't really see beyond it.
And where this entity crossed the road,

831
01:01:30.039 --> 01:01:34.280
there was a driveway on the west
side of the road, a gravel driveway,

832
01:01:34.480 --> 01:01:44.840
very narrow, and these weeds and
vines and brush bushes whatever they were,

833
01:01:45.199 --> 01:01:47.760
grew real heavy right up until the
driveway, and the driveway was super

834
01:01:47.840 --> 01:01:51.599
narrow and on the other side of
the driveway, as were driving again,

835
01:01:51.639 --> 01:01:57.159
this greenery and bushes and vines continued. Once we passed that driveway, I

836
01:01:57.159 --> 01:02:00.800
couldn't I looked as we're passing the
drive but once we got past that little

837
01:02:00.800 --> 01:02:05.280
opening, I couldn't see back to
see what I had seen in that driveway.

838
01:02:05.360 --> 01:02:07.079
I'll get back now and talk about
the entity and what we saw.

839
01:02:07.440 --> 01:02:10.719
You know, the sun is shining, the fog is lifted, the branches

840
01:02:10.760 --> 01:02:15.639
are glistening with the moisture that's on
them and the sun that's hitting them,

841
01:02:15.000 --> 01:02:17.840
and I'm thinking, this is really
pretty. It is lowlands, and it

842
01:02:17.880 --> 01:02:24.639
is in the middle of really a
low populated area in Mississippi. And all

843
01:02:24.679 --> 01:02:28.880
of a sudden, this entity crossed
the road. And what was confusing for

844
01:02:29.000 --> 01:02:34.239
me in the moment was I've seen
animals cross the road. I've hunted deer

845
01:02:34.320 --> 01:02:37.760
my entire life. I've seen dogs
run, deer, bears, wolves,

846
01:02:37.800 --> 01:02:42.440
I've seen animals running across a road
or running in front of me, and

847
01:02:42.760 --> 01:02:46.480
you'll see a neck and a head
and you'll see legs running. What I

848
01:02:46.559 --> 01:02:52.000
saw, the same thing my husband
saw, was a mass that was about

849
01:02:52.000 --> 01:02:58.599
two feet above the road, and
it was rust color, kind of and

850
01:02:58.760 --> 01:03:05.639
grayish, but real fuzzy around the
outside like muted washed out, so it

851
01:03:05.679 --> 01:03:08.920
was. It was a form the
size of an adult torso, with no

852
01:03:09.079 --> 01:03:14.320
head, arms or legs, but
real muted in colors and going, like

853
01:03:14.360 --> 01:03:17.559
I said, so fast across the
road that you you know, right across

854
01:03:17.559 --> 01:03:22.480
the road like that that I saw
it in front of me in my lane,

855
01:03:22.880 --> 01:03:27.360
and then I saw it go across
into that driveway where it disappeared from

856
01:03:27.400 --> 01:03:30.679
sight. And we're approaching that driveway, and as we went by at sixty,

857
01:03:30.760 --> 01:03:35.000
I looked down that driveway and I'll
explain what I saw. In a

858
01:03:35.039 --> 01:03:42.559
moment. I said to my husband, what the was that? And he

859
01:03:42.679 --> 01:03:47.519
said, and he doesn't swear,
he said, exactly what the F was

860
01:03:47.639 --> 01:03:52.000
that? And I said, did
you did you look down the driveway?

861
01:03:52.000 --> 01:03:54.159
Because I was driving and I saw
it hit that driveway or go down that

862
01:03:54.239 --> 01:03:58.719
driveway, and I turned and looked
to see if I could see. I

863
01:03:58.760 --> 01:04:01.840
wanted to see like a dog's there, or a deer or something to tell

864
01:04:01.840 --> 01:04:05.960
me I didn't like something to make
sense of what I saw. But I

865
01:04:06.039 --> 01:04:11.119
know what I saw in that mask
moving across the road so quickly was no

866
01:04:11.239 --> 01:04:13.639
arms, no legs, no neck, no head, and it was a

867
01:04:13.719 --> 01:04:17.519
very smooth glide across the road or
flying across the road. It was,

868
01:04:17.920 --> 01:04:21.840
and it was substantial in size.
So when I looked down the driveway,

869
01:04:23.519 --> 01:04:25.639
I asked him, but did you
look on the driveway and he said no,

870
01:04:26.199 --> 01:04:30.119
and I'm driving and he said go
back, and I said, no

871
01:04:31.039 --> 01:04:35.159
effing way am I going back,
because when I looked on the driveway what

872
01:04:35.199 --> 01:04:39.440
I saw I didn't want to go
back to. I did not want to

873
01:04:39.440 --> 01:04:41.400
turn around and go back. I
said, I am not going back.

874
01:04:41.440 --> 01:04:45.360
We are driving on. And so
we've spent the next few hours talking about

875
01:04:45.360 --> 01:04:48.760
what we saw. And I kept
asking him because he has not had experiences

876
01:04:48.920 --> 01:04:54.760
and he's always, you know,
been a good sport and listening. Stay

877
01:04:54.760 --> 01:04:58.440
tuned for more Bigfoot Society. We'll
be right back. After these messages,

878
01:04:59.360 --> 01:05:01.800
I could ask, tell me again, what you saw, be very detailed.

879
01:05:01.880 --> 01:05:05.159
Explain what you saw. And what
he saw a crossing the road is

880
01:05:05.199 --> 01:05:09.480
what I explained to you, the
same thing that I saw. And so

881
01:05:09.840 --> 01:05:13.239
for me, there was a little
peace of mind that there was somebody with

882
01:05:13.280 --> 01:05:15.760
me that saw what I saw.
But he did not turn his head and

883
01:05:15.800 --> 01:05:20.320
look down that driveway, and I
did. And when I looked down that

884
01:05:20.440 --> 01:05:29.159
driveway about ten yards or less beyond
that vine thick hedgerow whatever it was,

885
01:05:29.239 --> 01:05:35.039
weeds, grass bushes about ten yards
beyond that in this gravel driveway. When

886
01:05:35.079 --> 01:05:44.960
I went past, what I saw
was too extremely skinny, bluish grayish,

887
01:05:45.519 --> 01:05:49.239
what looked like legs, but they
were very long, like very long,

888
01:05:49.400 --> 01:05:56.119
meaning they would belong on a very
super skinny NBA player that might have been

889
01:05:56.159 --> 01:06:00.800
seven feet tall. But we're talking
very skinny, like skin little skinny.

890
01:06:00.119 --> 01:06:05.639
And the color I was describing to
my husband the color of the legs,

891
01:06:06.239 --> 01:06:12.280
it looked like stonewashed blue jeans from
back in the eighties, that color,

892
01:06:12.519 --> 01:06:16.559
you know, light bluish gray.
And because I was going sixty miles an

893
01:06:16.599 --> 01:06:20.480
hour and this drive was narrow,
I saw this image and I'll explain a

894
01:06:20.480 --> 01:06:24.440
little bit more about it. And
we kept driving and I kept trying to

895
01:06:24.440 --> 01:06:29.280
process what it was I saw,
and it was just legs. And on

896
01:06:29.360 --> 01:06:32.880
top of the legs there was a
red If you can imagine taking a red

897
01:06:33.639 --> 01:06:39.519
handkerchief and tying it around your waist, you know, maybe making it into

898
01:06:39.559 --> 01:06:43.079
more of a rope shape and tying
around your waist like red and a little

899
01:06:43.119 --> 01:06:46.480
puffy, or taking a sweatshirt and
rolling it into something and tying that around

900
01:06:46.559 --> 01:06:50.360
your waist or a T shirt.
But there was something red right at the

901
01:06:50.360 --> 01:06:57.000
top of what should have been a
torso. It was just a blur of

902
01:06:57.079 --> 01:07:00.840
red, but there was no upper
tors It was just these long, skinny

903
01:07:01.800 --> 01:07:06.559
legs. And it just didn't make
any sense to me because what I saw

904
01:07:06.639 --> 01:07:12.719
crossing the road was this mass,
and I described that, and then what

905
01:07:12.760 --> 01:07:15.280
I saw standing in the driveway as
we went past was not the mass.

906
01:07:15.280 --> 01:07:21.119
It was these legs with red at
the top of the legs, like where

907
01:07:21.119 --> 01:07:26.440
the torso should should be. That
was what I saw. That was January

908
01:07:26.559 --> 01:07:29.679
first, seven twenty five in the
morning this year. So I was just

909
01:07:29.679 --> 01:07:35.000
glad somebody else saw something that I
saw to kind of like validate that I

910
01:07:35.039 --> 01:07:39.880
saw something. You know, have
you ever gone back to that area or

911
01:07:40.079 --> 01:07:44.679
that was a one time trip through
that area? That was a one time

912
01:07:44.760 --> 01:07:47.440
trip through the area. I just
I don't know if I could get back

913
01:07:47.440 --> 01:07:51.400
to the area. I suppose I
could if I just put the GPS on

914
01:07:51.440 --> 01:07:55.360
the hotel we stayed at the night
of the thirty first, before we got

915
01:07:55.440 --> 01:07:59.360
up next morning to drive this way, you know, down south so I

916
01:07:59.400 --> 01:08:01.559
could drive that way again. I
don't have any desire to see that again.

917
01:08:02.079 --> 01:08:05.760
I can't explain what it was.
I just call it an entity,

918
01:08:06.280 --> 01:08:12.360
but it doesn't I can't make sense
of what I saw crossing the road at

919
01:08:12.360 --> 01:08:16.279
that speed and size with no arms
and legs, and then looking down that

920
01:08:16.399 --> 01:08:20.399
driveway that it entered into, and
seeing what I saw when I passed,

921
01:08:20.880 --> 01:08:26.039
and this was a really run down
piece of property. You know it.

922
01:08:26.520 --> 01:08:28.399
I don't know if somebody lived there
or not, but there's a lot of

923
01:08:28.439 --> 01:08:31.279
places you drive by in that part
of the country that look really run down.

924
01:08:31.399 --> 01:08:35.920
No, I don't want to go
back there. No, but Mississippi

925
01:08:36.399 --> 01:08:43.760
is a weird place from what I've
talked to other people. Not surprised that

926
01:08:43.800 --> 01:08:46.720
you had that encounter there, for
sure. There's something weird about that state

927
01:08:46.760 --> 01:08:51.359
that I'm finding out. It's very
very strange. What do you if,

928
01:08:51.920 --> 01:08:58.039
I'm sure you've thought of this a
few times since that January first, able

929
01:08:58.079 --> 01:09:01.479
to make any sense of of what
you think it is or the best you

930
01:09:01.479 --> 01:09:05.840
can think it's some sort of entity. I have thought about it because it's

931
01:09:06.439 --> 01:09:14.239
and you've probably had guests on or
you've heard podcasts where people try and fit

932
01:09:14.319 --> 01:09:18.880
what they see into what they know, and I can't fit what I saw

933
01:09:18.920 --> 01:09:24.800
with the mass crossing the road,
the speed with which this I'm going to

934
01:09:24.840 --> 01:09:30.680
call it an entity cross the road
was I mentioned I believe I blinked at

935
01:09:30.680 --> 01:09:33.520
the time when it started crossing the
road, because I saw it when it

936
01:09:33.560 --> 01:09:36.960
was in front of my vehicle.
It had already come across the other lane,

937
01:09:38.439 --> 01:09:42.359
and my husband saw it the entire
way left to right, and so

938
01:09:42.399 --> 01:09:45.000
I know it didn't just manifest in
front of our vehicle that because he saw

939
01:09:45.039 --> 01:09:47.880
it go left to right and I
just saw it in front of us going

940
01:09:47.880 --> 01:09:50.840
to the right. I just don't
understand what it could have been. It

941
01:09:50.880 --> 01:09:55.439
doesn't fit into any slot that I
can think of in terms of what it

942
01:09:55.560 --> 01:09:58.760
might be, which is why I've
just I think of it as an entity.

943
01:09:58.880 --> 01:10:00.359
I don't know what it could have
been. And then when I looked

944
01:10:00.439 --> 01:10:06.920
down that driveway and saw those really
long, skinny legs, I thought,

945
01:10:06.920 --> 01:10:12.479
well, that could have been a
person bending over that was very thin with

946
01:10:12.600 --> 01:10:16.079
really long legs, and they could
have had a shirt tied up around their

947
01:10:16.119 --> 01:10:21.720
waist that was red. But I
didn't see any upper torso I just saw

948
01:10:21.840 --> 01:10:27.520
legs and that red at the top
of what would be the waistband, you

949
01:10:27.520 --> 01:10:30.159
know, area of if you were
wearing a pair of pants, you know

950
01:10:30.760 --> 01:10:33.520
that was it just these long,
skinny legs with the red above it.

951
01:10:33.640 --> 01:10:40.960
And it just doesn't The two don't
make sense to me, And like,

952
01:10:42.079 --> 01:10:45.960
I don't know what the possibilities are, you know, is it an entity

953
01:10:45.039 --> 01:10:50.520
that manifested into what I saw?
Is it two separate things? I don't

954
01:10:50.560 --> 01:10:56.039
know. I mean, what are
your thoughts? You know, it's tricky

955
01:10:56.079 --> 01:11:01.039
because you say is stonewash blue gray
color, but man, if you had

956
01:11:01.079 --> 01:11:06.359
said white, would have thought.
You know, there's a thing that's seen

957
01:11:06.399 --> 01:11:12.720
out in California, the fred Fred
Crawler, and it's also see I believe

958
01:11:12.720 --> 01:11:15.439
there's sighting out in Yosemite National Park
as well, but the main one is

959
01:11:15.920 --> 01:11:23.399
out in California. But what you
described as is definitely a little bit different

960
01:11:23.439 --> 01:11:26.920
than that, for sure. But
I just I if I had to think

961
01:11:26.960 --> 01:11:30.319
of like anything that's even a little
bit close, that's what I might think.

962
01:11:30.359 --> 01:11:35.439
But yours just seems like a very
unique There's something going on in Philadelphia,

963
01:11:35.479 --> 01:11:41.520
Mississippi area, and if listeners know
of any other things that have happened

964
01:11:42.039 --> 01:11:45.399
that this sounds familiar to them.
I would love to hear about if you

965
01:11:45.439 --> 01:11:50.720
can email me atosociety at gmail dot
com or hit me up on any of

966
01:11:50.760 --> 01:11:56.760
my social channels. Yeah, I'm
at a loss for this one, Leslie.

967
01:11:56.880 --> 01:12:02.359
I hope we can somehow get some
answers for But it's a fascinating story,

968
01:12:02.439 --> 01:12:05.680
but I'm not really sure what to
do with it. Well, maybe

969
01:12:05.680 --> 01:12:09.439
your listeners will have an idea,
and you know, maybe they can come

970
01:12:09.520 --> 01:12:15.079
hopefully get in touch with you because
there's power and knowledge, and you know,

971
01:12:15.119 --> 01:12:18.000
you've got a community out there that
all wants to learn more and have

972
01:12:18.079 --> 01:12:21.319
conversations around these things. Yeah,
I would be very interested to hear if

973
01:12:21.359 --> 01:12:28.600
anybody else has seen anything similar in
terms of entities or I said that long

974
01:12:28.680 --> 01:12:32.319
set of legs with nothing else but
the legs, that was just pretty shocking.

975
01:12:32.359 --> 01:12:38.880
I guess absolutely. Leslie. It's
been really fun chatting with you today

976
01:12:39.000 --> 01:12:44.000
about your different encounters, and thank
you for coming on. If you ever

977
01:12:44.479 --> 01:12:48.680
have any other things happened to you
as well, feel free to reach out

978
01:12:49.199 --> 01:12:54.880
and let me know about it.
You've been a really fun guess, very

979
01:12:54.920 --> 01:12:58.680
knowledgeable, and your attention to detail
is some of the best that I've ever

980
01:12:58.720 --> 01:13:00.960
heard. So thanks jer Maya,
thanks for letting me share my story.

981
01:13:01.680 --> 01:13:06.000
Stay tuned for a special interview about
the twenty twenty four Bigfoot Rendezvous. All

982
01:13:06.079 --> 01:13:09.640
right, big for Society. We've
got the privilege of talking to Chelsea.

983
01:13:09.880 --> 01:13:15.640
She's with the twenty twenty four Bigfoot
Rendezvous out there in Pocatello, Idaho.

984
01:13:15.840 --> 01:13:18.319
And how's it going today, Chelsea? Pretty good? How are you?

985
01:13:18.840 --> 01:13:23.880
I'm doing great. I'm living the
dream, talking to people about Bigfoot and

986
01:13:24.000 --> 01:13:27.880
doing all sorts of wild stuff and
I can't complain. But you know,

987
01:13:27.920 --> 01:13:30.880
I've heard about this from a few
different people, so I'd love to chat

988
01:13:31.039 --> 01:13:33.640
with you for a few minutes today, So tell me all about what we've

989
01:13:33.640 --> 01:13:36.880
got going on with the Bigfoot Rendezvous. So this is an event that we

990
01:13:36.960 --> 01:13:42.079
do every couple of years. My
friend Brandon, he's the one who started

991
01:13:42.079 --> 01:13:45.560
this whole thing years ago. So
this year we have some guest speakers.

992
01:13:45.600 --> 01:13:49.920
We have doctor Jeffrey Meldrum, who
is a resident of Pocatello, so it's

993
01:13:49.960 --> 01:13:56.319
always nice to have him come and
speak for us. We have Nko spatafora

994
01:13:56.880 --> 01:14:01.159
he works over at the North American
big Foot Center, and who works with

995
01:14:01.640 --> 01:14:08.039
Cliff Berrickman pretty closely, so pretty
excited about that. We will also have

996
01:14:09.520 --> 01:14:17.840
David Ellis, who specializes in vocalizations, and we will also have Mark Marcel

997
01:14:18.600 --> 01:14:24.119
and also Squatch America is going to
be doing an appearance at the event as

998
01:14:24.159 --> 01:14:29.319
well. The lineup you have for
Bigfoot Rendezvous is incredible. I mean,

999
01:14:29.359 --> 01:14:33.399
this is a lineup you're not going
to really find at most Bigfoot conferences.

1000
01:14:33.479 --> 01:14:38.319
You have people like Michael Freeman,
the son of Paul Freeman, who have

1001
01:14:38.399 --> 01:14:42.319
talked to on the podcast. Also
Nico from North American Bigfoot Center, who

1002
01:14:42.399 --> 01:14:45.920
is a wealth of knowledge, David
Ellis, who one of the premier individuals

1003
01:14:46.079 --> 01:14:50.560
with Bigfoot sound recording, Squatch America
crew, Mark Marcell, and of course

1004
01:14:50.640 --> 01:14:55.720
doctor Meldrum, who we all know
and love in the community. But Chelsea,

1005
01:14:55.760 --> 01:15:01.000
what was the motivation behind putting this
conference together? Well, Brandon says

1006
01:15:01.039 --> 01:15:04.680
that a lot of times people come
up to Jeff Meldrum and they ask him

1007
01:15:04.720 --> 01:15:08.479
when are you going to come speak
for us, you know, because he

1008
01:15:08.840 --> 01:15:15.760
travels the country and does speeches elsewhere. And Brandon and Jeff are really close

1009
01:15:15.880 --> 01:15:18.960
friends. You know. The first
year they got together at ISU and they

1010
01:15:19.039 --> 01:15:25.560
put together an event so that the
locals could also get a chance to speak

1011
01:15:25.600 --> 01:15:29.199
with Jeff. That's so cool.
It's bringing it all back home. I

1012
01:15:29.239 --> 01:15:33.079
love it. What kind of things
can people expect to find when they come

1013
01:15:33.119 --> 01:15:36.159
to this conference? So yeah,
So this year we're doing it at the

1014
01:15:36.199 --> 01:15:42.840
Westwood Mall, right next door to
Outer Limits Fun Zone, which is a

1015
01:15:42.880 --> 01:15:46.680
pizza arcade and oh my gosh,
they have like the best pizza and the

1016
01:15:46.720 --> 01:15:51.439
best chicken. And then there's also
a Mexican food truck in the parking lot

1017
01:15:51.479 --> 01:15:57.840
every day, so there's definitely options
for food. And then we are also

1018
01:15:57.920 --> 01:16:01.960
going to have some vendors who will
be selling Bigfoot merch and that part's going

1019
01:16:02.000 --> 01:16:04.439
to be open to the public.
You don't have to buy a ticket to

1020
01:16:04.520 --> 01:16:09.119
check out the vendors, which is
really good for the vendors and for people

1021
01:16:09.119 --> 01:16:12.560
who just want to come and check
it out, But it's if you want

1022
01:16:12.560 --> 01:16:15.199
to see the speakers, you gotta
pay for the ticket. One of the

1023
01:16:15.199 --> 01:16:21.720
guys we got coming is bred and
Haffeine and he has a Bigfoot being going

1024
01:16:21.720 --> 01:16:28.279
on in Boise and I believe he's
the one that sells watch juice. Oh

1025
01:16:28.399 --> 01:16:30.520
yeah, I've heard of that.
Yeah, very interesting. Okay, that's

1026
01:16:30.520 --> 01:16:34.640
cool, he'll be there all right. We have a few Native Americans live

1027
01:16:34.680 --> 01:16:39.479
in the area that are gonna be
coming and displaying some of their crafts and

1028
01:16:39.600 --> 01:16:44.720
arts that are also Bigfoot related,
and we're always excited to have them come

1029
01:16:45.079 --> 01:16:47.800
and come to these things because I
feel like Tomi personally, I feel like

1030
01:16:47.800 --> 01:16:54.399
that kind of legitimizes it. These
people have been around for much longer than

1031
01:16:54.439 --> 01:17:00.560
we have, and they've had many
more experiences and stories to to share with

1032
01:17:00.640 --> 01:17:04.680
us, you know, Oh,
absolutely, I think it's extremely important when

1033
01:17:04.720 --> 01:17:12.399
we have Native American influence present in
festivals and conferences like this. For sure.

1034
01:17:13.199 --> 01:17:17.039
Is this a one day event or
multiple days or we're going to be

1035
01:17:17.079 --> 01:17:20.560
doing it for two days? Very
cool? And I'm guessing there's some hotels

1036
01:17:20.600 --> 01:17:26.319
nearby people can stay in and all
that good stuff. Yeah. So if

1037
01:17:26.359 --> 01:17:30.439
you go to sasquatchprints dot com,
we do have a carousel at the top

1038
01:17:30.520 --> 01:17:35.000
of the page and it takes you
to the hotel where you can get a

1039
01:17:35.039 --> 01:17:41.079
discount. Is Pocatello easy to get
to? Is there an airport nearby or

1040
01:17:41.239 --> 01:17:46.079
if people wanted to fly in for
this, that unfortunately is a little bit

1041
01:17:46.119 --> 01:17:51.920
more difficult. We do have an
airport, and they do have delta flights

1042
01:17:53.000 --> 01:17:58.800
coming and out, but it's easier
to probably fly into Salt Lake and rent

1043
01:17:58.800 --> 01:18:02.640
a car to get here. Or
I believe that Idaho Falls Airport is getting

1044
01:18:02.880 --> 01:18:05.880
bigger, where you might be able
to find into Idaho Falls, which is

1045
01:18:06.880 --> 01:18:12.640
maybe about fifty minutes away for Pocatello. Fantastic, But I mean, looking

1046
01:18:12.680 --> 01:18:15.359
at the lineup again, even if
you had to put a little work to

1047
01:18:15.439 --> 01:18:19.079
get there, it's going to be
worth going to this event. I myself,

1048
01:18:19.199 --> 01:18:27.159
I've met Mark Marcel in person,
and that alone is a delight because

1049
01:18:27.199 --> 01:18:30.920
Mark is one of the nicest individuals
and you'll love it. So you know,

1050
01:18:30.000 --> 01:18:33.880
I can't imagine meeting the other individuals
in person. So I would say

1051
01:18:33.920 --> 01:18:39.600
people definitely need to put in the
extra effort to try to get to this

1052
01:18:39.680 --> 01:18:44.920
event. But Chelsea, I've got
to ask you while I have you on

1053
01:18:44.960 --> 01:18:51.199
the phone, have you ever experienced
anything maybe bigfoot related or weird out in

1054
01:18:51.199 --> 01:18:57.680
the woods yourself? Possibly? So
usually when I go hiking, I try

1055
01:18:57.720 --> 01:19:01.159
to stick to trails that are heavily
pop mulated with people, so the chances

1056
01:19:01.159 --> 01:19:05.840
that I bump into a wild animal
is less likely, you know, I

1057
01:19:05.880 --> 01:19:10.439
don't I'm not a gun carrying type, so I don't, you know,

1058
01:19:10.479 --> 01:19:14.359
I don't have that extra protection if
something were to attack me, So I

1059
01:19:14.439 --> 01:19:19.000
just I usually stick with heavily populated
trails. But I did once wander off

1060
01:19:19.119 --> 01:19:26.239
into the woods by myself in an
area that wasn't so populated, and things

1061
01:19:26.239 --> 01:19:28.960
were, things were fine and dandy, and then all of a sudden,

1062
01:19:29.039 --> 01:19:31.720
I just noticed that there was like
no sound, like there were no birds

1063
01:19:31.800 --> 01:19:36.600
chirping. It was like deathly quiet. And then like the hair on the

1064
01:19:36.600 --> 01:19:40.079
back of my neck started to like
raise, and I was just like,

1065
01:19:40.119 --> 01:19:43.079
oh my gosh, I need to
turn around, you know, Like,

1066
01:19:43.199 --> 01:19:46.560
so as soon as that happened,
I turned right around and went back the

1067
01:19:46.600 --> 01:19:53.039
direction I came from, because whatever
was causing that feeling was not good,

1068
01:19:53.119 --> 01:19:56.520
I could tell for sure. Who
knows what it could have been that you

1069
01:19:56.760 --> 01:20:00.800
almost experienced out there. And the
thing about it is Idaho is so wild.

1070
01:20:01.000 --> 01:20:04.640
I've talked to some people up in
northern Idaho that have had things happen

1071
01:20:04.760 --> 01:20:10.199
that I myself would never want to
experience. So I'm kind of glad that

1072
01:20:10.920 --> 01:20:15.680
nothing crazy happened to you that day. But Chelsea, it has been a

1073
01:20:15.720 --> 01:20:20.279
pleasure chatting to you real quick about
the Bigfoot Rendezvous. And one last question,

1074
01:20:21.680 --> 01:20:28.000
how can people get tickets again for
this? The tickets can be purchased

1075
01:20:28.199 --> 01:20:33.960
on sasquatchprints dot com. There is
a link it says purchase tickets here.

1076
01:20:34.159 --> 01:20:39.079
It's in red and if you click
on it, it should you take you

1077
01:20:39.159 --> 01:20:44.479
right to the tickets. Remember to
get your tickets off the website because on

1078
01:20:44.560 --> 01:20:48.800
the day of the event it will
go up in price. Extremely important,

1079
01:20:48.800 --> 01:20:54.199
guys, get your tickets ahead of
time on the website. You don't want

1080
01:20:54.239 --> 01:20:57.680
to be paying more at the door, but you could be, but we

1081
01:20:58.159 --> 01:21:01.039
let you know. So all right, Chelsea, Well, such a pleasure

1082
01:21:01.239 --> 01:21:06.479
chatting with you, and I hope
that these Bigfoot Rendezvous goes awesome for you.

1083
01:21:08.039 --> 01:21:13.239
Thanks YouTube. The Bigfoot Rendezvous is
coming up quick July twenty sixth and

1084
01:21:13.279 --> 01:21:17.800
twenty seventh of twenty twenty four.
Get your tickets today and special thanks again

1085
01:21:17.840 --> 01:21:23.199
to Chelsea for coming on the show. Please take a minute to help out

1086
01:21:23.239 --> 01:21:27.760
the show by subscribing on YouTube,
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1087
01:21:27.760 --> 01:21:31.119
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1088
01:21:31.520 --> 01:21:35.840
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1089
01:21:36.000 --> 01:21:41.560
make sure that you're subscribed. Share
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1090
01:21:41.600 --> 01:21:45.239
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1091
01:21:45.239 --> 01:21:49.640
bigfoot encounter related to the following,
or know someone who has, please reach

1092
01:21:49.720 --> 01:21:55.640
out to me at Bigfoot Society at
gmail dot com or pass on my email.

1093
01:21:56.399 --> 01:21:59.439
Here's the list. All right,
I'm going to use this space this

1094
01:21:59.520 --> 01:22:03.319
week to announced that I'll be at
the Sasquatch Summerfest and Oakridge organ as an

1095
01:22:03.319 --> 01:22:08.439
atender. I won't be presenting or
anything, but I'll be hanging out trying

1096
01:22:08.479 --> 01:22:13.039
to interview people that have had bigfoot
counters. If you're from the Oakridge,

1097
01:22:13.079 --> 01:22:16.960
Oregon area or surrounding and you've had
a bigfoot experience, please contact me directly

1098
01:22:16.960 --> 01:22:21.079
Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com.
Also, Priscilla was nice enough that if

1099
01:22:21.119 --> 01:22:26.880
you get your tickets through Sasquatch Summerfest
dot com in use code Bigfoot Society,

1100
01:22:27.319 --> 01:22:30.920
you can get fifty percent off the
cost of your tickets, which is a

1101
01:22:30.960 --> 01:22:34.960
big amount. So code Bigfoot Society
to get fifty percent off your tickets.

1102
01:22:35.000 --> 01:22:41.000
Sasquatch Summerfest dot com and helps out
the podcast as well. A special thank

1103
01:22:41.079 --> 01:22:45.199
you to all the Bigfoot Society Patreon
and YouTube channel members. It's your support

1104
01:22:45.239 --> 01:22:49.960
that helps keep the show going and
I extremely appreciate it. Here at big

1105
01:22:49.960 --> 01:22:56.439
for Society, we're headed to the
moon and here's a current update about going

1106
01:22:56.479 --> 01:23:00.439
full time. So here we go. As of five twenty two, you're

1107
01:23:00.479 --> 01:23:03.239
now at two hundred and two patroons
out of eight hundred and twenty four needed.

1108
01:23:03.800 --> 01:23:08.960
That's twenty four point five to one
percent, almost a quarter of the

1109
01:23:09.000 --> 01:23:13.159
way there, guys, brings us
down to six hundred and twenty two left

1110
01:23:13.840 --> 01:23:16.319
to join the patroon. So a
huge thank you to Barbara, Gregory,

1111
01:23:16.439 --> 01:23:20.560
Dana Craig, Jeff, Steve,
reckyde Norm Meghan, Dan, Daddy Chatty,

1112
01:23:20.680 --> 01:23:25.159
Joe Eber, Eike Jewels, Josh, Ryan Todd, Nathan Gabe,

1113
01:23:25.159 --> 01:23:30.279
Bill Lucky, Meghan, William,
Bobby, Joe, and Inger for joining

1114
01:23:30.680 --> 01:23:34.600
recently. If you want to join
in the fun, you can join over

1115
01:23:34.640 --> 01:23:39.680
at patreon dot com forward slash the
big Foot Society. I'll see you there,

1116
01:23:40.880 --> 01:24:32.399
and again thanks for listening. Her
and I can get out here,

1117
01:24:32.479 --> 01:24:35.720
we can tell our stories. Maybe
there's somebody else out there. Listening.

1118
01:24:36.039 --> 01:24:40.960
It's too afraid to tell their story. Maybe this will give them the courage

1119
01:24:41.000 --> 01:24:44.720
to come out. And now I
feel so bad about it. Who cares

1120
01:24:44.720 --> 01:24:47.239
what anybody thinks. I know what
I saw, I know what's out there.

1121
01:24:48.159 --> 01:25:09.119
That's all I care abo. Please
let people know, Please let them

1122
01:25:09.439 --> 01:25:13.119
know. If you ever see one
of these things, you need to tell

1123
01:25:13.800 --> 01:25:16.720
because if you don't, then shame
on you, you know, shame on

1124
01:25:16.840 --> 01:26:10.439
you. Wait there's more. Monsterfest
two is coming up soon and beautiful Canton,

1125
01:26:10.479 --> 01:26:14.000
Ohio, and I will be there
doing a live podcast. If you've

1126
01:26:14.000 --> 01:26:17.800
ever wanted to meet Bigfoot Society in
person, this is the year to do

1127
01:26:17.880 --> 01:26:25.119
it. My special guest in the
live podcast episode will be Justin from Cryptids

1128
01:26:25.159 --> 01:26:30.000
of the Corn. You will not
want to miss this live episode and then

1129
01:26:30.399 --> 01:26:34.039
you can hang out with me at
Monsterfest. You can go to small Town

1130
01:26:34.119 --> 01:26:40.279
Monsters dot com to get your tickets. Pre sale tickets are twenty dollars fifty

1131
01:26:40.279 --> 01:26:45.359
cents and tickets at the door will
be twenty five dollars, but kids twelve

1132
01:26:45.439 --> 01:26:49.119
and under are free. How many
places can you go to where at kids

1133
01:26:49.159 --> 01:26:54.439
twelve and under are free? Not
many. New this year are the live

1134
01:26:54.479 --> 01:26:59.760
workshops. I'm excited about this,
extremely excited. How to cast a footprint,

1135
01:27:00.119 --> 01:27:02.439
to collect DNA in the woods,
ghosts hunting tools one oh one,

1136
01:27:04.479 --> 01:27:11.920
how to do research. Also,
there's going to be food trucks outside this

1137
01:27:12.039 --> 01:27:16.880
year and new guests, new speakers, people you won't I mean, the

1138
01:27:16.880 --> 01:27:21.119
coolest thing about last year is that
I got to meet people I was not

1139
01:27:21.199 --> 01:27:27.840
expecting to be there, people like
less Odell, John Hickinbottom, really cool,

1140
01:27:27.880 --> 01:27:30.960
big people that I never would have
thought that I would have met before.

1141
01:27:31.159 --> 01:27:40.000
And Seth Breedlove made it happen by
making this incredible place for the community

1142
01:27:40.039 --> 01:27:45.399
to get together. Monsterfest in kant
Ohio June twenty eighth through twenty ninth.

1143
01:27:45.479 --> 01:27:48.279
Guys, do not miss this year. If you missed last year, don't

1144
01:27:48.319 --> 01:27:54.720
miss this year. Head on over
right now to Smalltown Monsters dot com.

1145
01:27:55.840 --> 01:27:56.720
I hope to see there.