Sept. 20, 2023
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What if you were trafficked into a cult...or were mauled by a grizzly bear...or were stabbed 27 times by a serial killer - what would you do? This is Actually Happening brings you extraordinary true stories of life-changing events told by the people who lived them. In their newest season, you’ll hear from a man who watched as his wife developed 21 new identities, or the women who began seeing demons everywhere inhabiting people, including her own son. These stories will have you on the edge of your seat waiting to hear what happens next.
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What if your partner developed twenty one
new identities, or you discovered that your
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friend who helped you through your darkest
times was actually a conniving con artist.
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Or what if you began seeing demons
everywhere inhabiting people, including your son.
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What would you do? From Wondering, This Is Actually Happening is a podcast
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that brings you extraordinary, true stories
of life changing events told by the people
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who lived them. In their newest
season, you'll hear even more intimate,
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first person accounts of how regular people
have overcome remarkable circumstances, from the man
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who went to jail for seventeen years
for accidentally shooting the person who tried to
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save his life to one of the
close friends of infamous scam artist Amanda Riley.
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These haunting accounts sound like Hollywood movies, but I assure you this is
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actually happening. I'm about to play
a clip from This Is Actually Happening while
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you're listening. Follow This Is Actually
Happening on the Wondering app or wherever you
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get your podcasts. I knew there's
probably something on that phone, and I
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needed to find out what it was
because he wasn't going to be honest and
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tell me. So his phone was
password protected, but I knew my husband
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well enough, and I figured out
the code to his phone. It still
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sounds crazy to me, but I
figured it out, and I got into
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his phone, and in such a
weird place, I found it in the
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notes app. I looked in the
notes app and there was a link.
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When I clicked on the link,
it had a role of photographs of his
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co worker and she was nude.
And so once I had found those photos,
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he came clean and he said it
was an inappropriate friendship and that he
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had lied to me. But he
told me the relationship had never been physical.
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He said he had never cheated on
me, He hadn't kissed her,
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he hadn't hugged her, and they
had not had sex. And so as
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devastating as it was to me,
he was repentant and he was sorry.
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And you know, because I was
like, do you want our marriage to
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be done? You know, like
I don't want to be in a marriage
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with someone who doesn't want to be
married to me. But I was still
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I still loved him at this point, and I was willing to try if
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he was willing to try, And
he told me he was willing to try,
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and we got counseling and worked on
our marriage, and I felt we
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were on the way up. We
hit this big roadbump. It's not a
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roadbump that's unfamiliar to many couples.
I can handle this. I do not
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want to get divorced again. If
he wants to work on things, and
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I'm willing to work on things.
We were doing okay. You know,
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we went to church on Sunday together, and you know, like one of
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my favorite things would be going to
church and him reaching over and taking my
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hand. It's just like each week
you could a chance to renew yourself and
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just like start fresh and put the
past behind you and let's keep moving forward.
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So it's winter break another time.
That's like teachers. It's such a
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blessing for teachers. You'd have like
two weeks off over Christmas, and it'd
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been a nice winter break and we'd
spent time with the kids. And my
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son's birthday is January second. That
was the date my son had turned fifteen,
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and we were having my parents over
for dinner that night and my brother
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and his wife to celebrate my son's
fifteenth birthday. It was just a nice
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night. We were going to bed, and I remember it. I had
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asked him about a couple of bills
that I'd asked him if he had paid,
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and he had told me that he
had not paid him. And he
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told me that not only had he
not paid them, but he hadn't paid
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them for two months. And I
just was like, oh gosh. I
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was stressed. And it was late
at night though, and Michael went to
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sleep, and I lay down and
tried to go to sleep. Something just
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wasn't sitting right with me, Like
something's off and I couldn't go to sleep,
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and why can't my mind rest?
I just want to go to sleep.
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It's been a long day, and
I'm like, I'm just going to
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take a sleeping pill and go to
sleep. Took a sleeping pill and I
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was wide awake, could not sleep. I just laid in bed and I
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was like, what could be bothering
me? Like what's going on? I
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just felt like something was off with
Michael. And I didn't know if it
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was like maybe he's talking to this
coworker again, or if it's related to
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the finances. Just you know,
something inside me was telling me something's wrong
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and you need to pay attention.
I mean it's after midnight, and you
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know, I feel like, you
know what, maybe if I go through
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his phone again and there's nothing there
that'll put my mind at ease. So
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I remember getting app and opening his
phone up and looking through every app I
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could think of, looking through his
messages, looking through his emails. I
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didn't even know where to look.
I just I couldn't see anything off.
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I didn't see any signs of him
communicating with this woman. Again. After
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looking through everything I could think of, I remember setting it down. I'm
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sitting in the closet and I just
prayed, and I just said, God,
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if there's something on this phone that
you want me to see, you're
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gonna have to show me where to
look, because I don't know where else
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to look. And as soon as
I finished that prayer, I opened up
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his photos and I scrolled down to
the file called recently Deleted, and I
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tapped on that, and it was
like opening Pandora's box. You can listen
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to this is actually Happening ad for
you right now by joining Wondery Plus in
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the Wondery app or on Apple Podcasts.
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What if your partner developed twenty one
new identities, or you discovered that your
2
00:00:04.120 --> 00:00:08.439
friend who helped you through your darkest
times was actually a conniving con artist.
3
00:00:08.679 --> 00:00:13.119
Or what if you began seeing demons
everywhere inhabiting people, including your son.
4
00:00:13.599 --> 00:00:18.120
What would you do? From Wondering, This Is Actually Happening is a podcast
5
00:00:18.199 --> 00:00:22.679
that brings you extraordinary, true stories
of life changing events told by the people
6
00:00:22.719 --> 00:00:26.160
who lived them. In their newest
season, you'll hear even more intimate,
7
00:00:26.239 --> 00:00:32.079
first person accounts of how regular people
have overcome remarkable circumstances, from the man
8
00:00:32.119 --> 00:00:36.240
who went to jail for seventeen years
for accidentally shooting the person who tried to
9
00:00:36.320 --> 00:00:40.640
save his life to one of the
close friends of infamous scam artist Amanda Riley.
10
00:00:40.799 --> 00:00:45.240
These haunting accounts sound like Hollywood movies, but I assure you this is
11
00:00:45.320 --> 00:00:49.759
actually happening. I'm about to play
a clip from This Is Actually Happening while
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00:00:49.759 --> 00:00:54.159
you're listening. Follow This Is Actually
Happening on the Wondering app or wherever you
13
00:00:54.240 --> 00:01:04.359
get your podcasts. I knew there's
probably something on that phone, and I
14
00:01:04.439 --> 00:01:07.439
needed to find out what it was
because he wasn't going to be honest and
15
00:01:07.480 --> 00:01:15.640
tell me. So his phone was
password protected, but I knew my husband
16
00:01:15.680 --> 00:01:21.200
well enough, and I figured out
the code to his phone. It still
17
00:01:21.239 --> 00:01:23.920
sounds crazy to me, but I
figured it out, and I got into
18
00:01:23.959 --> 00:01:27.840
his phone, and in such a
weird place, I found it in the
19
00:01:27.920 --> 00:01:33.480
notes app. I looked in the
notes app and there was a link.
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00:01:34.680 --> 00:01:40.680
When I clicked on the link,
it had a role of photographs of his
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00:01:40.879 --> 00:01:47.159
co worker and she was nude.
And so once I had found those photos,
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00:01:47.719 --> 00:01:53.000
he came clean and he said it
was an inappropriate friendship and that he
23
00:01:53.040 --> 00:01:57.359
had lied to me. But he
told me the relationship had never been physical.
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He said he had never cheated on
me, He hadn't kissed her,
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00:02:00.280 --> 00:02:05.079
he hadn't hugged her, and they
had not had sex. And so as
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00:02:05.159 --> 00:02:10.560
devastating as it was to me,
he was repentant and he was sorry.
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00:02:10.879 --> 00:02:14.479
And you know, because I was
like, do you want our marriage to
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00:02:14.520 --> 00:02:15.599
be done? You know, like
I don't want to be in a marriage
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00:02:15.599 --> 00:02:19.120
with someone who doesn't want to be
married to me. But I was still
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00:02:19.199 --> 00:02:23.080
I still loved him at this point, and I was willing to try if
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he was willing to try, And
he told me he was willing to try,
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00:02:25.879 --> 00:02:34.919
and we got counseling and worked on
our marriage, and I felt we
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00:02:34.919 --> 00:02:39.240
were on the way up. We
hit this big roadbump. It's not a
34
00:02:39.319 --> 00:02:46.120
roadbump that's unfamiliar to many couples.
I can handle this. I do not
35
00:02:46.199 --> 00:02:49.759
want to get divorced again. If
he wants to work on things, and
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00:02:49.919 --> 00:02:55.360
I'm willing to work on things.
We were doing okay. You know,
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00:02:55.360 --> 00:02:59.840
we went to church on Sunday together, and you know, like one of
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00:02:59.840 --> 00:03:02.520
my favorite things would be going to
church and him reaching over and taking my
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00:03:02.599 --> 00:03:07.479
hand. It's just like each week
you could a chance to renew yourself and
40
00:03:07.560 --> 00:03:12.759
just like start fresh and put the
past behind you and let's keep moving forward.
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00:03:13.639 --> 00:03:16.759
So it's winter break another time.
That's like teachers. It's such a
42
00:03:16.800 --> 00:03:21.599
blessing for teachers. You'd have like
two weeks off over Christmas, and it'd
43
00:03:21.599 --> 00:03:24.759
been a nice winter break and we'd
spent time with the kids. And my
44
00:03:24.840 --> 00:03:30.240
son's birthday is January second. That
was the date my son had turned fifteen,
45
00:03:30.360 --> 00:03:36.159
and we were having my parents over
for dinner that night and my brother
46
00:03:36.240 --> 00:03:39.280
and his wife to celebrate my son's
fifteenth birthday. It was just a nice
47
00:03:39.400 --> 00:03:45.680
night. We were going to bed, and I remember it. I had
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00:03:45.719 --> 00:03:49.360
asked him about a couple of bills
that I'd asked him if he had paid,
49
00:03:49.759 --> 00:03:52.719
and he had told me that he
had not paid him. And he
50
00:03:52.840 --> 00:03:54.960
told me that not only had he
not paid them, but he hadn't paid
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00:03:55.039 --> 00:04:00.039
them for two months. And I
just was like, oh gosh. I
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00:04:00.400 --> 00:04:02.840
was stressed. And it was late
at night though, and Michael went to
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00:04:02.879 --> 00:04:08.319
sleep, and I lay down and
tried to go to sleep. Something just
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00:04:08.520 --> 00:04:12.759
wasn't sitting right with me, Like
something's off and I couldn't go to sleep,
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00:04:12.840 --> 00:04:15.960
and why can't my mind rest?
I just want to go to sleep.
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It's been a long day, and
I'm like, I'm just going to
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00:04:17.160 --> 00:04:21.480
take a sleeping pill and go to
sleep. Took a sleeping pill and I
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00:04:21.519 --> 00:04:27.319
was wide awake, could not sleep. I just laid in bed and I
59
00:04:27.360 --> 00:04:30.639
was like, what could be bothering
me? Like what's going on? I
60
00:04:30.800 --> 00:04:35.160
just felt like something was off with
Michael. And I didn't know if it
61
00:04:35.240 --> 00:04:40.319
was like maybe he's talking to this
coworker again, or if it's related to
62
00:04:40.360 --> 00:04:46.120
the finances. Just you know,
something inside me was telling me something's wrong
63
00:04:46.160 --> 00:04:51.160
and you need to pay attention.
I mean it's after midnight, and you
64
00:04:51.199 --> 00:04:54.600
know, I feel like, you
know what, maybe if I go through
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00:04:54.600 --> 00:04:59.279
his phone again and there's nothing there
that'll put my mind at ease. So
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00:04:59.319 --> 00:05:03.600
I remember getting app and opening his
phone up and looking through every app I
67
00:05:03.639 --> 00:05:09.519
could think of, looking through his
messages, looking through his emails. I
68
00:05:09.560 --> 00:05:12.879
didn't even know where to look.
I just I couldn't see anything off.
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00:05:12.920 --> 00:05:17.519
I didn't see any signs of him
communicating with this woman. Again. After
70
00:05:17.839 --> 00:05:21.839
looking through everything I could think of, I remember setting it down. I'm
71
00:05:21.879 --> 00:05:26.399
sitting in the closet and I just
prayed, and I just said, God,
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00:05:26.439 --> 00:05:29.920
if there's something on this phone that
you want me to see, you're
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00:05:29.959 --> 00:05:31.399
gonna have to show me where to
look, because I don't know where else
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00:05:31.439 --> 00:05:38.000
to look. And as soon as
I finished that prayer, I opened up
75
00:05:38.040 --> 00:05:45.279
his photos and I scrolled down to
the file called recently Deleted, and I
76
00:05:45.439 --> 00:05:51.480
tapped on that, and it was
like opening Pandora's box. You can listen
77
00:05:51.519 --> 00:05:57.000
to this is actually Happening ad for
you right now by joining Wondery Plus in
78
00:05:57.040 --> 00:05:59.639
the Wondery app or on Apple Podcasts.