Running from the Mafia in Sasquatch Territory!

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Big for Society. I got the privilege

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of talking to Mark today. So
Mark's an individual that I noticed a comment

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come in on one of my YouTube
videos previous interview, and it was just

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very interesting to the point. I
mean, I think it ended up it

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was talking about rolling off of a
Camaro or something like that, but I'm

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sure that'll come up later. But
I reached out to Mark and I was

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like, man, we got to
talk because I got a feeling this is

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going to be interesting. So Mark, I'm glad that we made this happen,

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and I'm going to go ahead and
let you have the floor and share

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what you would like to my friend. Okay, thank you, Jarma.

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I'll just jump right in. In
nineteen seventy two, I was eight years

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old and my mom had just remarried, and so we had a blended family

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and that was six of us boys
and my stepdad. With that many boys,

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one of the things they would like
to do is take us out hiking,

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and that was kind of like their
dates when they when all of us

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boys were together. And because we
were two of us were eight, I

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was eight years old and then ten, eleven, twelve, and fourteen years

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old. So on one of the
heights we went on for some reason I'll

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never forget it, the man who
was seemed to be my stepdad, he

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noticed something off of the trail and
we were in our Merchy, Georgia,

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and I think it was a place
called the Pocket, a little state park

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type thing, and there were switchback
trails and you went up a small mountain

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and at the end of it was
a little waterfall. But I would say

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about thirty feet off of one of
the trails was this. I would six

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or eight saplings that were about eight
to twelve feet long. It's been a

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long time, but I do remember. It was in a dome type structure

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and there weren't hardly any limb on
the trees. And he noticed it first

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and he said, well, isn't
that amazing? How could nature make something

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like that happen? Because they were
kind of intertwined weaves together at the top,

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and and you could, you know, you could see inside of it.

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It was basically just the the the
trees without limbs, you know.

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I thought that really was interesting.
And I even went over there to it

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and kind of stepped inside of it
and looked around. And that was the

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first, the very first thing that
I had ever seen. And of course

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I didn't have any idea what it
was. But there was someone that came

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walking up the trail that wasn't there
in our group, and I remember he

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said something about you shouldn't have touched
that. Now you're marked. And the

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reason I remember it was because I
said, well, that doesn't matter.

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I'm already marked. My name is
marked. So but we just kind of,

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you know, that was basically it. It was just an interesting thing

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that we thought nature had somehow done
by weaving those trees together in the dome

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type structure, and we finished our
hike, and I don't recall anything else

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happening, you know, strange during
that hike. So that is what I

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would, you know, call my
first encounter. So Mark, I'll tell

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you a really weird synchronicity going on
here. So I just had an interview

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with another Mark last week talking about
his experiences in this same area. I'm

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not even kidding that, right,
Oh yeah. And I'll tell you,

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like, if you go to bigfootmap
dot com you look in the area that

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you're talking about, it's lit up
like the fourth of July. There's a

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ton of you know, sightings,
people hearing, weird stuff, all sorts

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of stuff going on in that especially
northern Georgia, but that northwest corner,

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the pocket Chickamauga just under Chattanooga,
all that good stuff. Yeah, you've

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got you've got some really interesting stuff
going on in that area. Man.

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I wish I mean, if that
happened to me, I wish i'd known

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what that guy meant by now you're
marked, right, it was strange,

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but we just kind of wrote it
off. Okay, he's kind of out

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there somewhere, you know, Uh, we didn't really, And of course

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that was a very long time ago, so I don't remember exactly how we

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reacted to it, but I just
remember him saying I was marked, and

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I thought it was funny because my
name is marked exactly now at this point,

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did you I mean you said age
six or age eight? Okay,

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so a j And had you thought
of big foot at that time or is

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it something that was talked about in
your household or no? I had no

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idea whatsoever. Shortly after that,
my mom and al was my stepdad's name,

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they married and we lived in a
place. We rented a place in

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Santa and, Georgia, which is
only about five miles from from our mercy,

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and it was it was about the
one hundred and twenty acres of farmland

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in a wooded area and the driveway
to the house was a little over a

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half mile, so it was it
was back in the woods. And there

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was I had one step brother that
was uh. He was ten, so

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he was a couple of years older
than me, and he kind of uh

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played the role as a big brother
to me because my only real big brother.

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You'll hear a little bit more about
him later. He didn't. He

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didn't look out for me, you
know, very well at all. So

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so Brian he was he was a
good guy, and uh he kind of

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looked out for me. And one
day he and I were walking down that

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that driveway, just kind of going
out on an adventure. Like I said,

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there were six of us boys,
so we ran out over those woods

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and had a great time. Uh
and we heard something in the woods beside

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us, and of course we just
thought it was an animal that was about

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thirty feet away or so, and
we couldn't we couldn't see it through the

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woods. And at one point Brian
said, I don't think that's an animal.

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That sounds like a person. And
you know, I said, well,

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how can you tell? And he
said, it just sounds I don't

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remember the word he used, but
of course by peedle. And he got

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scared. But for some reason I
wasn't scared. And I can only attribute

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that and my experiences to my grandmother
being full Cherokee, which makes me twenty

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five percent. And my grandmother and
me were very close and she was a

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good Christian lady. We talked a
lot, we were we were special to

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each other. So uh So,
anyway, I said Uh. Brian was

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ready to turn around and go back
home, and we were about a quarter

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mile from the house and I said, well, just wait a minute,

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I said, we have our pocket
knives. You know, I was brave

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and uh and I said, uh, there's a clearing up here about fifty

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feet and when we get to this
clearing, whoever that is will either have

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to stop or they will come out
and we will see them. And so

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that's what we did. And just
as we got to the clearing, it

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was about this was on the right
the sound in the woods, and it

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was like the woods just sort of
stopped suddenly. It was like a ninety

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degree angle from the driveway where there
was a clearing, but just got the

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edge of the woods, about thirty
or so feet uphill, there was a

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bush. And as we stepped past
the woods to where there was a clearing,

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and we could see that bush and
we were looking up there for somebody

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or something to come walking out of
those woods. That bush was shaking as

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if somebody was holding onto the middle
of it and just shaking it back and

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forth, you know, about six
inches from center or something. And it

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only did it about three or four
seconds, and it stopped and of course

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we were amazed, and I remember
saying, well, maybe there's some kind

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of bird in that bush causing it
to do that. Uh, maybe it's

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got a nest in there, and
it's you know, I don't know what

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would be what would be doing that. So but of course we were starting

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and confused, and even at that
age, you know, I had learned

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to be aware of my surroundings.
So after we stared at that bush for

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about you know, fifteen or twenty
seconds and it hadn't done anything else,

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I started turning around, and you
know, I turned to my little left,

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looking on up the driveway in the
direction that we were going. And

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about the time I got my back
turned to the bush as I was going

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to do a three sixty and look
all around us, my brother hollered,

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it's a monster run. And he
even grabbed me and pulled me a couple

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of steps, and he repeated,
it's a monster run, and he took

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off running. But now Brian was
known to kind of exaggerate and you know,

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tell some unbelievable stories, so I
didn't believe them. Even though we

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had seen the bush shaken and I
had heard the footsteps, I just didn't

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believe there was a monster up there. So I stopped and I continued to

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look, but I never saw anything, and he kept running, and I

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guess, you know, when he
got about fifty or sixty yards away,

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you know, I realized, I
was, okay, I'm not going to

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do something here. So I hollered
his name and I started jogging towards him,

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and he finally turned around, and
I could tell that he was absolutely

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terrified, and so, you know, I kind of ran towards and I

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knew I had a long way to
go. And I actually had a heart

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condition that I was born with,
so I knew I couldn't run wide open,

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you know, a quarter mile to
the house. So I just kind

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of jogged towards him and h and
as he was we were hollering back and

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forth, I put my finger up
to my mouth and you know, told

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him to be quiet, and I
listened in the woods, and you know,

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I said, it's okay, it's
it's not following us. I don't

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hear it, you know. And
so I asked him about the monster,

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and I said, well, what
did it look like? Was it Frankenstein?

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You know? And he said,
of course not. I said,

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well, there's a lake. We
had, like a twelve acred lake,

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which is just on the other side
of the driveway from where we heard that

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sound. And and I said,
well, there's a lake ruight over there.

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That left a lot in this monster. And he said no, he

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said it looked like Harry Caveman and
that that gave me the chills. I

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was like, Okay, that's that's
pretty scary. And we lived at that

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house. We lived on that property
for about three years. And I do

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remember one or two other times,
one time specifically when I was with my

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stepbrother who was just a couple of
months younger than me, and we were

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a bit closer to the house.
But I do remember the footsteps in the

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woods walking beside us one other time. But that was those two were the

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only things that happened at that house. And that was in that was in

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Shannon, that was just about five
miles away from where that structure was.

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That is that's super interesting. Do
you remember how tall the bush was?

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You know, I would guess it
was about five feet it was. It

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was pretty good sized bush. I
don't remember, you know, what kind

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of it was, but I do
remember it being very round and full and

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you couldn't see through to the other
side. And I don't recall how big

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he said it was. Uh he
said it just sort of peeked up over

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the bush, and uh, you
know, of course I turned around and

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looked, and I didn't see anything, so I it had it had hidden

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whenever he whenever he hollered, I
guess and I turned around. But it's

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for it to peek up over the
bush right when I turned my back,

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but he was still looking. That's
kind of you know, it just that's

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kind of weird. Yeah, that's
that's very very interesting. You mentioned that

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you heard bipedal footsteps as well.
Was that the only time that you heard

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something weird in the woods or were
or other times where you would hear stuff

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maybe that wouldn't belong or out of
place sounds anything like that on that property,

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that was the only time we heard
footsteps, gotcha like that? And

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that's that was the only Now,
when we first moved in, and I

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believe it was the very first night, we heard something that sounded like a

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baby crying. I mean, it
sounded just like a baby crying. But

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my stepdad said, that's just that's
just a mountain lion. They sound like

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that. So but but I remember
I was like, we've got to go

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get that baby, you know,
I was concerned. And it sounded like

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it was about, you know,
forty or fifty feet away, up and

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up in the woods, and it
was night, so we couldn't see what

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it was. Oh man, he
sounded a gold flashlight, which you couldn't

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You couldn't see thing. That's so
that's very interesting. I mean, yeah,

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on the one hand, maybe could
have been a mountain lion. On

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the other hand, I mean,
if you look into what goes on in

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Alaska, you know, they they
say if you hear a baby cry in

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the woods outside your place, don't
go looking at it because that's how the

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hairy man is trying to lure you
into the woods. So that's very interesting.

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You heard it so close to where
you were staying, too. Yeah,

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But other than that, you know, I saw I was looking that

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up one time, and I saw
there's also a frog that sounds like a

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baby crying, but I didn't I
never saw, you know where they are

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indigenous too, but that was a
late video. There was there is a

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frog that sounds just like a baby
crying. So at this point you're around

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eleven twelve or how old are you
at this time? Well, now my

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next my next story is, uh, I was eleven at that time.

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I was like eight and nine,
okay, but yeah, something something happened

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when I was eleven. I was
actually we were still in the in the

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Armorchy area, and this place was
an old logging road, and we were

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with my real dad. We were
visiting him on the weekend, and and

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he had a there was something called
parents without Partners, and they would,

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you know, people who had kids
but they were single, they would get

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together and go do you know,
usually something a low budget type thing.

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So this this old logging road had
been designated as a hiking area somehow,

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but because there was a at one
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built out a block that they had
had put there for the people who

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go hiking up this road. And
there was Okay, so there's me and

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my real brother at this point,
I was eleven, and so my real

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brother was fourteen, and and then
there was my dad and another adult male

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and an adult female and two girls. And I seem to remember they were

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a little bit younger than me.
I would say they were about nine and

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eight. So we're we're hiking up
this road and my brother's stomach starts hurting.

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he was like, I've got to
go back to the bathroom. My stomach

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is killing me. And so somehow
we decided. I was always more brave

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than I should have been, I
guess, but uh, me and my

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brother walked back to the bathroom because
you know, the girls were a bit

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younger, and we had already been
walking for a while. So the whole

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group didn't want to go back because
uh, you know, and so the

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adult stayed with the two young girls
and me. I was eleven and my

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brother was fourteen, and we had
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the wilderness. So I was like, well, we'll just walk back,

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y'all. Just hang on it.
Like I said, it was about a

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mile, so I said, you
know, forty five minutes or so we

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should be back. So that's what
we did. We got back, We

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got back to the bathroom, my
brother went in, and I went around

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back to you know, to take
a wise. And when I went around

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behind that building, man, I
felt something watching me. I just I

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felt eyes on me. I can't
explain it, but I knew somebody was

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watching me. Excuse me. So
my brother gets through and we start walking

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again, and I still have that
feeling. I remember mentioning because my brother,

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but he just kind of brushed it
off and we heard the footsteps.

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Now, my brother he was I
know he I know he heard it because

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I kept seeing him glance over there. It was it was to her right,

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and but he decided he was just
going to ignore it. And he's

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just started talking about whatever came to
his mind, talking a mile a minute.

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And of course I'm I'm kind of
in disbelief that he's doing this.

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But uh so I after, you
know, just a few seconds or so,

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I said, Keith, I know
you hear that, and uh,

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I'll never forget. I got him
to stop. We both stopped, and

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the footsteps stopped and we started walking
again, and the footsteps started up again.

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I'll never forget. It still cracks
me up. I said, see

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something's walking over there, and he
said, why do you always have to

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notice everything? But that was his
personality. He wanted to you know,

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he didn't want to acknowledge anything that
was scary or dangerous. He would rather

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just try to ignore it. But
so, okay, so I said,

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oh. And one thing about this
was really strange. This this was these

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were new pine trees planted in rows, and I would best I can remember,

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they were about thirty foot tall or
something, and there wasn't a bunch

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of undergrowth or anything. We had
clear vision. I even remember looking to

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see. I thought, it's this
thing a ghost and I'm because you can't.

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I couldn't see it. And it
only sounded like it was about twenty

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or thirty feet away, and we
should have been able to see it.

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I was even looking at the ground
where it sounded like it was that to

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see if there was a ghost and
its feet were pushing down, you know,

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the grass and things. That's just
I'm sorry, but so and so

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I said. I told my brother, I said, okay, stop,

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and I said, I'm gonna run
about five steps and we'll see what we

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hear. And so this is the
way. And another thing was we were

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walking on a very dry, hard
dirt road wearing tennis shoes, and you

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could tell the sound in the woods
was heavy footsteps with twigs snapping and grass

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being pushed down. It was a
totally different sound than our footsteps because we

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had thought, well, maybe it's
just an echo. So I told my

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brother, I said, okay,
stare right here. I'm gonna take five

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fast steps. And here's the way
it went. It went stomp, so

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sop sop, sop, sop,
sop sop sop. So. So there

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was no way that was an echo
because it took way too long, you

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know, an echo from just that
distance, it would be like a split

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second later. And uh So I
turned back to my brother and I said,

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that ain't no echo. Run And
I took off running just as hard

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as I could go, because because
at that point I was scared, and

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I guess I ran about fifteen steps
or so. And I looked back at

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my brother because I knew he was
older and faster than me and he could

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catch up. And and he was
still standing there, and he was looking

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where the sound was coming from,
and he was looking back at me.

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And he would look where the sound
was coming from, and he would look

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back at me, and I said, what are you doing. Come on,

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let's get out of here. And
my brother said, it's after you

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get away from me, it's you
know. I hope my brother never is

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this, but if he does,
that's that's what happened. But uh so,

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and this is going to sound really
unbelievable, but this is what happened.

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I turned and looked in the direction
where I thought the thing was,

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because it had stopped when I stopped, and I said, if you want,

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if you're going to kill one of
us, you ought to get him

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because he's evil. And this thing
hollered. I mean, it was a

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roar that knocked me down and I
fell back and I actually rolled over backwards

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that you know, rolled into a
somersault, and got right back up on

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my feet and took off fronting just
as hard as I could. And at

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that point, my brother, I
think I hollered at him, you know,

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I said, stay here if you
want to, I'm getting out of

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here. And so he decided to
start running too, and I actually,

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out of still, out of some
compassion, I slowed down where he could

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catch up because I was a good
ways ahead of him, and he caught

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up pretty quickly. And just about
the time he uh started to pass me,

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my heart started hurting. And it
would do that sometimes when I would

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run, and uh, you know, I told him, I said,

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I said, stop, wait up. My heart's hurting, and he was

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like, I don't care, I'm
getting out of here. And so I

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as I was falling, he was
on my right and I fell and I

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grabbed hold of his belt with both
hands, and when I fell, I

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pulled him down and he landed flat
on his back and knocked the wind out

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of him and its glasses went flying
off. And so while I was recovering

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from my heart hurting, it's a
mitral valve provous. The valve would actually

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get stuck and it would just cause
horrible pain, but it would eventually,

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especially if I would take deep breasts
and stretch it, it would pop back

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into place. So while he was
recovering from his getting the wind knocked out

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of him, about the same time
I recovered from my valve getting stuck in

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my heart, and we didn't hear
anything else. I actually got up and

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got his glasses for him, because
they had fallen in a small ditch that

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was right on the on the right
hand side of the road. So I

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actually walked closer to where the sound
had been coming from and picked up his

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glasses, and uh, basically we
we took off walking again, and we

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didn't hear anything else. Crazy Huh, that's that's intense, Mark my goodness.

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So it's it roared at you.
Now, have you heard ever heard

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any sound that even comes close to
what that roar sounded like? The ah,

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I mean, it was so loud. It was like I have been

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uh standing next to the railroad tracks
where the road goes over, like when

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we were kids and we were walking
around the neighborhood. There was a railroad

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track h in Garden Lakes there in
Rome, and I have been uh there

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where the train is coming to,
you know, to the the road where

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the road crosses over and it blows
its one And it was it was that

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loud and that intense as far as
you know, what it really sounded like.

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You know, all I can say
is a roar, but it was.

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It was just incredibly loud. And
so when when we got back to

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the group, they they were looking
at us strange at first, and so

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I said, did y'all hear that? Did y'all share that scream? And

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I could tell that they did,
but they wouldn't admit it. That is

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the main thing that just blows my
mind about sasquatch encounters is the way people

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just cannot deal with it. They
will deny it, even even adults,

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you know. But I knew when
they were looking at us, they were

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looking at us like we didn't know
if y'all were going to make it back.

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But one reason I realized they were
the two young girls there, so

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they didn't want to scare them was
one of the things why they, you

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know, didn't want to talk about
it. So I told them, you

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know, what had happened, and
they were just kind of like, you

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know, I don't really believe you. That's kind of hush, You're going

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to scare these girls, you know
that sort of thing. Man, did

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you ever go back to that area
any other time in the future after that?

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I don't think we ever went back
to that area. No, that's

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wild. So you heard the roar, you're still not seeing anything at all?

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Oh nothing, And we should have
been able to see it because you

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know, those were planted pine trees, planted in rows. That makes no

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sense to me, especially since you're
hearing you're hearing the footsteps Blake and it's

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like, well, man, the
only the only explanation is that the thing

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is somehow invisible, you know,
or or cloaked or like a chameleon like

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any of these unexplainable things. Who
knows it's that's wild. Yeah, and

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I have heard, you know,
a couple of other people. I listened

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to the podcasts and things. I've
heard a couple of other people say the

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same type thing, right, So, yeah, it's it's very strange.

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There's some strange things in this world. Now at this point, what were

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what were your thoughts as were you
thinking, Okay, there's something weird in

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this world. Is it Bigfoot?
Or were you not quite there yet where

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you believed in Bigfoot? No?
I wasn't. I actually wasn't quite there

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yet. I think I may have
seen the Patty Gelan film thing, the

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Patterson Ginland film by that point,
because this would have been nineteen seventy five,

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so I'm pretty sure I had seen
that. What year did that come

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out? I know it was so
it was filmed in sixty seven. Okay,

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so, but it being invisible,
I didn't really put it together with

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the Sasquatch. I didn't know what
it was. That's such an intense story,

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especially the dynamic between you and your
brother. Yeah, wow, that's

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kind of sad, is wild,
But okay, here's here's the next one.

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And it gets even more in denial. All right, this one is

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wild, this one okay. At
this point, I'm seventeen years old,

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and so it's nineteen eighty one.
I remember it's at the end of the

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summer. It was the first cool
night of that season. He got kind

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of cold that night. So I
had just gotten off of work, and

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I was I won't bother you with
the details, but I had a lot

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on my mind. I had a
lot going on in my life, and

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I was just confused. It's about
what I was going to do. I

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wasn't getting along with my dad at
all. So I came home from work

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and I just kind of I had
the house to myself from my age and

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took a shower, and it was
it was about nine thirty before I ever

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decided, I'll go over to my
friend's house that I've known since I was

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five years old. It'll start right
down the road and I'll see what's going

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on over there. So I get
to his house and he says, you

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know, man, I'm glad you're
here. I know where there's a party

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out in the woods. We used
to like to go to fields and build

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bonfires and throw big parties. But
he said I don't think it's going to

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be that big of a party,
but I really want to go out there.

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And so, long story short,
we took off out there, and

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again it's in our merchy and it's
I would say we were about ten miles

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north of the Martha Berry property,
and I remember the last three or four

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miles there wasn't even a house out
there anywhere. And I was like,

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you're sure we're going to the right
spot, and he said yeah. So

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off this lonely back road, took
a left on what I would call a

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farm road, just a little one
lane dirt road, and this little road

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went through the woods probably about an
eighth of a mile, and then it

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opened up into this huge field.
And what I say huge, I would

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say it was probably about two hundred
yards long by two hundred yards wide approximately,

410
00:37:39.559 --> 00:37:45.920
and it was very well maintained.
I guess they grew rye grass out

411
00:37:45.920 --> 00:37:49.679
there or something, because I remember
commenting like, wow, we and it

412
00:37:49.800 --> 00:37:53.400
was freshly cut, and I was
like, wow, we could actually play

413
00:37:53.440 --> 00:38:00.639
football out here. Somebody's really taken
care of this place. But so there

414
00:38:00.639 --> 00:38:07.719
were only three other cars out there
and the guy that was driving each car,

415
00:38:07.800 --> 00:38:10.320
so there was only three other people
and then me and my friend.

416
00:38:12.320 --> 00:38:19.519
And let's say that we were going
north as we came into this field.

417
00:38:19.559 --> 00:38:23.960
I don't remember the exact direction,
but we'll just say north. So they

418
00:38:24.000 --> 00:38:28.760
had this huge bonfire going. I
mean, the flames were about eight feet

419
00:38:28.840 --> 00:38:35.559
high, and their cars were each
part on the north side, beside each

420
00:38:35.599 --> 00:38:40.559
other in a row. So I
pulled up to the west side, just

421
00:38:40.719 --> 00:38:52.199
short of their cars and the west
side of the fire. And so we

422
00:38:52.320 --> 00:38:55.320
start to get out, and they're
just really happy to see us. And

423
00:38:55.400 --> 00:39:00.960
I could tell it was they were
relieved that we were there, because,

424
00:39:00.480 --> 00:39:05.920
you know, a couple more numbers
make them a little more confident that they

425
00:39:05.920 --> 00:39:10.960
were obviously scared of something and h
and I knew it when I got out

426
00:39:12.000 --> 00:39:19.119
of the car. I felt it
again. Somebody's watching Somebody is in those

427
00:39:19.159 --> 00:39:24.280
woods or or something that's got their
eyes on us, you know. And

428
00:39:24.320 --> 00:39:28.360
I said something to them about it, and I could see them kind of

429
00:39:28.480 --> 00:39:30.719
nod in acknowledgment at first, and
then they just kind of went, oh,

430
00:39:30.840 --> 00:39:36.480
no, ain't nobody watching us.
How can you tell something's watching us?

431
00:39:36.519 --> 00:39:38.079
You're you're just not used to being
in the woods, said, I

432
00:39:38.119 --> 00:39:43.760
said, no, I'm very used
to being in the woods, and so

433
00:39:43.880 --> 00:39:50.079
I said, it's either coyotes or
you know something. I said, it

434
00:39:50.119 --> 00:39:55.559
may be moonshiners, somebody may be
growing some marijuana out here, or maybe

435
00:39:55.559 --> 00:40:02.159
even possibly a game warden. But
somebody or something it's watching us, and

436
00:40:02.199 --> 00:40:08.239
it's over there to the west,
and so we just kind of, you

437
00:40:08.280 --> 00:40:13.679
know, just kind of ignored it
and talked for a while. And I

438
00:40:13.719 --> 00:40:17.679
would say, you know, maybe
twenty minutes or so went by, and

439
00:40:17.760 --> 00:40:23.079
so all of these guys are leaned
up against the front of their cars,

440
00:40:23.119 --> 00:40:25.400
at the back of their cars.
I don't remember which way they were parked,

441
00:40:25.679 --> 00:40:30.360
but so they're facing south and I'm
leaned up against the front part of

442
00:40:30.400 --> 00:40:37.960
my car, so I'm facing east. And then my old friend Ken,

443
00:40:37.079 --> 00:40:40.800
he's right over there beside me somewhere, but he's really drunk. He had

444
00:40:40.800 --> 00:40:45.360
gotten really drunk. The rest of
us were driving, so we were staying

445
00:40:45.400 --> 00:40:52.079
pretty straight. We were just kind
of sipping on views and talking and a

446
00:40:52.239 --> 00:40:57.559
rock came flying through. It was
between John was the one closest to me,

447
00:40:58.280 --> 00:41:01.360
and I have to say he was
most arrogant person I've ever known.

448
00:41:02.440 --> 00:41:06.079
And they'll find out more about him
in a minute. But so he was

449
00:41:06.119 --> 00:41:12.400
the one closest to me, probably
six or seven feet away, and this

450
00:41:12.639 --> 00:41:21.960
rock comes flying through exactly at eye
level and exactly in between me and John,

451
00:41:22.920 --> 00:41:24.599
and it, I mean, it's
a fastball, it's a move in

452
00:41:24.719 --> 00:41:30.199
ninety miles an hour, and it
goes over the fire and everybody saw it,

453
00:41:30.239 --> 00:41:35.360
even Ken, even though he was
drunk, and we all of course

454
00:41:35.800 --> 00:41:40.760
turned real quick to look to the
west to see where it came from,

455
00:41:40.880 --> 00:41:46.760
and there was nothing over there,
and so we look back at each other

456
00:41:46.840 --> 00:41:55.639
and we're just stunned, and this
is I still can't believe it. John

457
00:41:55.719 --> 00:42:01.400
looks at me and he gets this
goofy on his face and he says,

458
00:42:01.840 --> 00:42:07.159
how did you do that? I'm
like, man, what are you talking

459
00:42:07.199 --> 00:42:10.360
about. I'm standing right here beside
you. He said, no, you

460
00:42:10.400 --> 00:42:15.400
did that somehow. I said,
John, I'm not a witch, I'm

461
00:42:15.400 --> 00:42:19.280
not a warlock. I can't make
things fly through the air. What are

462
00:42:19.360 --> 00:42:23.679
you talking about? But he was
just adamant that somehow I did that.

463
00:42:27.079 --> 00:42:32.639
Strange, strange, total denial.
People blow my mind when it comes to

464
00:42:34.239 --> 00:42:42.679
things like this. So basically we
kind of yeah, Actually, I said,

465
00:42:42.719 --> 00:42:45.719
okay, I'm getting out of here, and they were like, no,

466
00:42:45.719 --> 00:42:49.880
no, don't go. I'm not
sure what they were thinking, and

467
00:42:49.960 --> 00:42:52.440
maybe they were trying to face their
fears even though they were in denial,

468
00:42:53.920 --> 00:42:59.239
but they didn't want to go.
So I finally relented and I said,

469
00:42:59.280 --> 00:43:07.239
okay, so we're it starts to
get cold. And I had a sleeping

470
00:43:07.360 --> 00:43:14.880
bag in the back seat of my
car, and I noticed that two of

471
00:43:14.920 --> 00:43:20.599
the other guys that are there are
both they're standing up, but they're in

472
00:43:20.719 --> 00:43:24.119
sleeping bags, you know, pulled
up to like their their chest. And

473
00:43:24.159 --> 00:43:28.639
I and I went, man,
that's a good idea. And I was

474
00:43:28.679 --> 00:43:32.599
like, y'all both have sleeping bags
exactly like the one that I just bought.

475
00:43:34.320 --> 00:43:38.320
And so I went to get mine
and mine was gone. And this

476
00:43:38.360 --> 00:43:43.880
is this is significant to the story
because I get in my argument with them,

477
00:43:43.920 --> 00:43:47.679
but neither one would would admit that
they had gotten my sleeping bag.

478
00:43:49.239 --> 00:43:52.559
So I finally just said, okay, you know whatever, I'm not going

479
00:43:52.599 --> 00:43:57.000
to get in a fight with with
two people that I consider friends. I

480
00:43:57.000 --> 00:44:00.000
mean, one of the guys I
had been in a in a little rock

481
00:44:00.159 --> 00:44:01.639
band with him, you know,
for a couple of years and stuff.

482
00:44:01.800 --> 00:44:07.880
Then I knew him. I knew
him all pretty well, so I said,

483
00:44:07.000 --> 00:44:12.239
you know, okay, just forget
it. Well, John says Mark,

484
00:44:12.239 --> 00:44:15.360
he shouldn't be a coward. I'm
like, man, I'm not a

485
00:44:15.360 --> 00:44:20.719
coward. I said. I said, would you fight two people over a

486
00:44:20.800 --> 00:44:24.119
sleeping bag? And he said yeah, because I'm not afraid of anything.

487
00:44:24.920 --> 00:44:32.159
Literally, when when those words came
out of his mouth, I'm facing north

488
00:44:32.280 --> 00:44:37.480
because I'm looking at him. He's
facing south. The other two guys are

489
00:44:37.519 --> 00:44:40.960
facing south. Ken is beside me, but like I said, he's drunk,

490
00:44:42.000 --> 00:44:49.840
so he's not really paying attention.
So about the woodline was probably you

491
00:44:49.880 --> 00:44:54.880
know, eighty yards away or so, about twenty feet behind the woodline,

492
00:44:55.440 --> 00:44:59.880
there's a pine tree that's i would
say, about forty five feet tall.

493
00:45:00.760 --> 00:45:06.039
And when you said I'm not afraid
of anything, this one tree. Now,

494
00:45:06.199 --> 00:45:09.320
it was kind of windy, so
there was some you know, trees

495
00:45:09.360 --> 00:45:15.280
swaying a little bit, but this
tree all of a sudden went about five

496
00:45:15.320 --> 00:45:20.320
feet from center one way. Then
it came back and it went about ten

497
00:45:20.360 --> 00:45:23.400
feet from center the other way,
and then it came back and it went

498
00:45:23.440 --> 00:45:28.920
about fifteen feet from center the other
way. And about that time, I

499
00:45:28.960 --> 00:45:30.599
said, oh, you're not afraid
of anything. Huh. Turn around and

500
00:45:30.639 --> 00:45:35.880
look at that. And they said, oh, we're not going to fall

501
00:45:35.920 --> 00:45:37.599
for that. We're out in the
middle of the woods. There's nothing going

502
00:45:37.639 --> 00:45:42.840
on behind us, you know.
All three of the guys that were facing

503
00:45:43.360 --> 00:45:49.599
me said that. And this tree
is swaying back and forth, you know,

504
00:45:49.719 --> 00:45:54.559
about thirty feet total, and you
can't I don't know if I mentioned

505
00:45:54.559 --> 00:45:59.920
it, but you can't see the
bottom twenty feet or so of the tree

506
00:46:00.159 --> 00:46:05.159
because of the undergrowth. And I
would say it's about twenty feet back from

507
00:46:05.360 --> 00:46:13.639
the edge of the woodline. So
I grabbed you know, Ken was also

508
00:46:13.800 --> 00:46:16.840
saying, you know, we're not
going to fall for that. And I

509
00:46:16.920 --> 00:46:21.199
grabbed him and I said, man, I've been your friends and they were

510
00:46:21.280 --> 00:46:24.559
five years old. And I grabbed
him by the shoulders and I turned him

511
00:46:24.599 --> 00:46:29.320
to look at the tree, and
I leaned up against him and I had

512
00:46:29.360 --> 00:46:32.079
my arm pointed at the tree right
beside his head. I said, look,

513
00:46:32.239 --> 00:46:37.760
Ken, look, and he at
first he was like or whatever,

514
00:46:37.800 --> 00:46:40.199
And then he when he looks at
the tree, his eyes get big and

515
00:46:40.239 --> 00:46:44.719
he starts shaking and he's terrified.
And of course the rest of the guys

516
00:46:44.760 --> 00:46:51.639
turn around and they you know,
they're terrified, and I couldn't resist.

517
00:46:52.679 --> 00:46:55.159
I took about three steps and I
was standing right next to John. I

518
00:46:55.159 --> 00:47:00.679
said, so you're not afraid of
anything. And he looks at me with

519
00:47:00.800 --> 00:47:04.639
terror on his face. And then
he looks back at the tree and then

520
00:47:04.679 --> 00:47:08.079
he turns back around and gets this
determined demeanor about him and said, it

521
00:47:08.119 --> 00:47:12.599
ain't nothing. It's just a tree
moving. It ain't nothing, don't mean

522
00:47:12.639 --> 00:47:17.280
nothing. And the rest of the
people followed his lead. The rest of

523
00:47:17.320 --> 00:47:23.119
them said the same thing, turned
around. And when when that happened and

524
00:47:23.199 --> 00:47:29.599
it turned around, the tree stopped. It was as if by that time,

525
00:47:29.679 --> 00:47:32.880
I am thinking sasquatch for sure,
you know, and I am believing

526
00:47:32.920 --> 00:47:39.000
this is this is a sasquatch and
uh and it was like it just let

527
00:47:39.079 --> 00:47:45.599
the tree go, and I can
only imagine sasquatch is over there going what

528
00:47:46.000 --> 00:47:53.880
is wrong with these people? These
are the craziest humans I've ever encountered.

529
00:47:58.199 --> 00:48:02.360
So uh hm, basically, at
that at that point, you know,

530
00:48:02.559 --> 00:48:09.199
I said that some other things happened. I actually forgot one one encounter before

531
00:48:09.239 --> 00:48:15.199
this one. But uh but you
know, I know we were only have

532
00:48:15.400 --> 00:48:20.599
so much time, so basically that
was it. Within a within a few

533
00:48:20.639 --> 00:48:29.079
minutes, I left. Uh,
and I don't know, do you want

534
00:48:29.079 --> 00:48:34.760
me to tell you more about what
happened as something I did that's unbelievable at

535
00:48:34.800 --> 00:48:39.960
the time, definitely. Well,
Like I said, I had a lot

536
00:48:40.000 --> 00:48:49.480
on my mind, and I'll just
backtrack that I had another encounter with my

537
00:48:49.559 --> 00:48:57.960
stepdad and something was shaking the camper
that we were in and uh. And

538
00:48:58.039 --> 00:49:00.599
so I actually my stepdad, even
though he was a big man, he

539
00:49:00.760 --> 00:49:07.280
was a marine in Vietnam. He
was terrified, and long story short,

540
00:49:07.639 --> 00:49:13.320
when I knew there was nothing else
I could do, I went over.

541
00:49:13.800 --> 00:49:16.880
I could tell where it had hold
of the camper and it was shaking it.

542
00:49:17.119 --> 00:49:21.920
We were actually on the Tennessee River
building a house and we were staying

543
00:49:21.960 --> 00:49:24.800
overnight and going to get up and
work again the next morning. And I

544
00:49:24.840 --> 00:49:34.239
went over to where I knew it
was and so it's just right on the

545
00:49:34.239 --> 00:49:37.400
other side of this little thing camperwall. And I said, look, I

546
00:49:37.400 --> 00:49:42.760
said, if I did something to
offend you, I'm sorry, I said,

547
00:49:43.360 --> 00:49:46.400
because I thought it may have actually
been a guy that was working with

548
00:49:46.480 --> 00:49:51.079
us, that was messing with us. But I was halfway thinking it was

549
00:49:51.480 --> 00:49:59.440
sasquatch. But yeah, I apologized
and I said, I said, I'm

550
00:49:59.440 --> 00:50:05.239
a good person. I believe in
Jesus and I want everybody to make it

551
00:50:05.280 --> 00:50:08.119
to Heaven. I said, but
I am a dumb teenager and I do

552
00:50:08.239 --> 00:50:13.840
cut up and I do offend people
sometimes. I said, if I offended

553
00:50:13.880 --> 00:50:20.239
you, I'm sorry. That was
and it quit rocking the camper. Basically

554
00:50:21.559 --> 00:50:25.000
that was like I said that that
had happened three years before, when I

555
00:50:25.039 --> 00:50:30.440
was fourteen. So with that in
mind, when these guys back in that

556
00:50:30.440 --> 00:50:37.199
field in our merchy, when these
guys kind of wouldn't pay me any attention,

557
00:50:37.320 --> 00:50:42.599
they turned away for just a minute, I took off running for that

558
00:50:42.679 --> 00:50:53.800
tree. I literally took off running
towards the tree because I'm just I'm stupid,

559
00:50:54.719 --> 00:50:58.840
but because I just I was at
that point in my life. I

560
00:50:58.920 --> 00:51:04.000
was seventeen years old. I was
really not getting along with my dad.

561
00:51:04.039 --> 00:51:08.800
I wasn't I didn't know where I
was going to live at you know,

562
00:51:08.960 --> 00:51:14.559
I believed in God and I knew
my life had a purpose, and at

563
00:51:14.559 --> 00:51:21.119
this point I knew it was a
sasquats and because it had started shaking that

564
00:51:21.199 --> 00:51:27.440
herbs, making that tree sway right
when you know, everybody was against me

565
00:51:27.519 --> 00:51:30.119
in that group. Somebody had stole
my sleeping bag, you know, the

566
00:51:30.320 --> 00:51:36.039
guy was calling me a coward.
I was like, it saw what was

567
00:51:36.079 --> 00:51:40.760
happening, and it was at least
causing a diversion. It was upset about

568
00:51:40.760 --> 00:51:45.599
what was happening to me. So
I was like, I've got to I've

569
00:51:45.639 --> 00:51:49.960
got to go over here. And
just like in that camper, I went

570
00:51:50.000 --> 00:51:52.440
over there and I stopped about twenty
feet from the woodline. That was as

571
00:51:52.440 --> 00:51:58.559
far as I was brave enough to
go, and I quietly spoke and I

572
00:51:58.599 --> 00:52:02.599
apologized. I said, I'm sorry
we're out here disturbing you. And I

573
00:52:02.639 --> 00:52:10.039
said, I you have a beautiful
place out here, and maybe maybe you

574
00:52:10.079 --> 00:52:15.800
were planning on doing some hunting tonight
and we're in your way, and I'm

575
00:52:15.840 --> 00:52:21.559
really sorry, and I just,
you know, I understand why you don't

576
00:52:21.599 --> 00:52:23.960
want us humans here. But when
I said I understand, it kind of

577
00:52:24.039 --> 00:52:30.039
hushed, it sort of sound,
and I almost almost fell down. I

578
00:52:30.039 --> 00:52:34.719
stepped back, and then I quickly
said, Okay, I don't completely understand,

579
00:52:34.960 --> 00:52:38.119
but I sort of understand. I
said, you've you've seen how I

580
00:52:38.159 --> 00:52:42.519
don't get along with these guys.
I said, I'm not crazy about humans

581
00:52:42.559 --> 00:52:46.320
either, man, And I said
uh. I said, so I'm about

582
00:52:46.320 --> 00:52:51.800
to leave, and I'm sure they
will leave shortly after. And I said,

583
00:52:52.719 --> 00:52:57.119
I'm very thankful that I got to
sort of meet you. I said,

584
00:52:57.159 --> 00:53:00.000
this is amazing. And as I
turned to walk away, I turned

585
00:53:00.000 --> 00:53:05.159
back and I said, I knew
I had to say this. I said,

586
00:53:06.320 --> 00:53:10.960
Jesus is Lord. He created everything
I said, which means he created

587
00:53:12.039 --> 00:53:19.280
me and he created you. And
if he can save me, I believe

588
00:53:19.280 --> 00:53:23.840
he can save you because you've helped
me out. And with that, when

589
00:53:24.039 --> 00:53:29.639
when I said that, all the
tension just lifted, I mean there was

590
00:53:29.679 --> 00:53:31.840
there was tension. Even though I
was brave enough to go over there and

591
00:53:31.960 --> 00:53:37.400
apologize. It wasn't like I wasn't
scared. It wasn't like I didn't feel

592
00:53:37.760 --> 00:53:42.719
danger. But when I said that, all the tension just lifted. And

593
00:53:43.679 --> 00:53:45.880
I walked back to my car and
I said, come on, Ken,

594
00:53:45.880 --> 00:53:50.960
we're getting out of here. And
uh, and I left, And as

595
00:53:51.000 --> 00:53:53.280
I was leaving, I saw,
you know, the other guys, they

596
00:53:53.280 --> 00:53:59.480
were getting ready to leave too.
And so that's that's basically the whole story.

597
00:54:00.039 --> 00:54:06.079
That's incredible and not the first time
that I've heard someone use the name

598
00:54:06.159 --> 00:54:14.159
of Jesus in order to stop some
Bigfoot related interaction. It's really interesting and

599
00:54:15.079 --> 00:54:20.800
raised the tension right away. It
was it was gone. It was gone,

600
00:54:22.760 --> 00:54:27.119
Yeah, because that was you know, it showed me intelligence and compassion,

601
00:54:27.320 --> 00:54:30.920
I thought. You know, so
I still don't know, you know,

602
00:54:31.679 --> 00:54:42.679
who were what exactly these beings are, but they're intelligent and uh they

603
00:54:43.360 --> 00:54:46.880
you know, you hear hear other
stories about them doing kind things. Now

604
00:54:46.920 --> 00:54:51.519
I'm not not even enough to think
that they're all kind. I believe some

605
00:54:51.599 --> 00:54:55.119
of them are very evil too,
you know, just like just like people

606
00:54:55.119 --> 00:55:02.119
are. I suppose Oh yeah,
uh definitely, Yeah, But all my

607
00:55:02.320 --> 00:55:14.079
encounters are basically you know, have
haven't I haven't experienced and evil uh sasquatch?

608
00:55:14.920 --> 00:55:21.039
You know that, just like like
some of the stories I've heard and

609
00:55:21.119 --> 00:55:29.280
unbelievable stories too, you know.
Any So, after any of these situations,

610
00:55:29.280 --> 00:55:36.679
did you ever have any like really
weird dreams or was there any like

611
00:55:36.760 --> 00:55:42.320
communication that would happen or anything like
that. No, I've never experienced anything

612
00:55:42.400 --> 00:55:45.280
like that. Oh, but I
have to tell you this, John,

613
00:55:45.360 --> 00:55:51.719
Now, I had a I'll try
to make this as short as possible.

614
00:55:52.039 --> 00:56:00.639
I was actually had a conversation with
him a few days later and he mentioned

615
00:56:00.679 --> 00:56:06.280
something about me being a coward again. I remember he said we were eating

616
00:56:06.320 --> 00:56:07.800
and stuff, when we were cutting
up and having a good time. Like

617
00:56:07.840 --> 00:56:10.800
I said, he's the most arrogant
person I've ever met. That's why I

618
00:56:10.880 --> 00:56:16.639
changed his name. But he brought
up he said, you're all right,

619
00:56:16.679 --> 00:56:21.679
but even if you are a coward, and I said, man, I

620
00:56:21.679 --> 00:56:25.400
said, I said, I'm not
a coward, and I won't go into

621
00:56:25.400 --> 00:56:29.840
all the details, but I said, I tell you this, for a

622
00:56:30.039 --> 00:56:34.440
million dollars, I would not go
back out of that field, drive my

623
00:56:34.599 --> 00:56:39.599
car up at midnight, shine my
lights on that tree, and get out

624
00:56:39.599 --> 00:56:43.800
of my car and walk around in
front of it and scream I'm not afraid

625
00:56:43.840 --> 00:56:47.599
of you. I'm not afraid of
you. And he said, I'll do

626
00:56:47.679 --> 00:56:52.679
it because I'm not a coward.
Now. I was using reverse psychology on

627
00:56:52.760 --> 00:56:55.400
him at that point. You know, I knew how he was. I

628
00:56:55.480 --> 00:57:00.840
knew he was simple minded. I
knew he would do it. But when

629
00:57:00.960 --> 00:57:07.039
I realized that I had, you
know, succeeded in talking him into doing

630
00:57:07.079 --> 00:57:08.400
that, I was like, man, no, you know, I had

631
00:57:08.400 --> 00:57:14.000
compassion on my dude, don't do
that. Don't don't go back out there.

632
00:57:14.039 --> 00:57:15.159
But he just got mad at me. You know, we almost got

633
00:57:15.199 --> 00:57:21.519
in a fight. Don't tell me
what to do. Yeah, So I

634
00:57:21.599 --> 00:57:24.519
actually I had moved to make him
for a little while, and I came

635
00:57:24.599 --> 00:57:30.599
back and I saw him again.
It was about a year later, and

636
00:57:30.519 --> 00:57:34.800
I went over to his house.
His little brother was one of my best

637
00:57:34.800 --> 00:57:43.199
friends. So I had gone over
to his house and uh, and I

638
00:57:43.280 --> 00:57:49.480
just ended up parking my car right
behind his and uh when I went in

639
00:57:50.400 --> 00:57:52.320
and I actually cleared it was his
little brother. First, I told his

640
00:57:52.360 --> 00:57:54.920
little brother what, you know,
what had happened, that we had almost

641
00:57:54.920 --> 00:57:59.519
got in a fight. And I
made sure it was okay with him if

642
00:57:59.559 --> 00:58:04.960
I came in. And they were
having a little party, and so John

643
00:58:05.159 --> 00:58:09.440
was like sitting by hisself watching TV. He wasn't even interacting with anybody.

644
00:58:10.159 --> 00:58:15.400
So after a few minutes, I
realized what was going on, and I

645
00:58:15.440 --> 00:58:20.440
said, you went back out there, didn't you? And he just got

646
00:58:20.480 --> 00:58:23.519
wild eyed and he said, I
got to get out of here. And

647
00:58:23.559 --> 00:58:25.639
he didn't have his keys in his
pocket, so he had to go to

648
00:58:25.639 --> 00:58:29.800
his bedroom to get his keys.
But when he did that. I went

649
00:58:29.840 --> 00:58:32.159
outside and I was waiting on him, and my car was parked right behind

650
00:58:32.199 --> 00:58:36.880
his, so we couldn't get out. And he said, somebody's parked behind

651
00:58:36.920 --> 00:58:38.440
me. He'd seen my car a
hundred times, and he was so beside

652
00:58:38.559 --> 00:58:45.119
himself he didn't even realize it was
my car. And I said, it's

653
00:58:45.159 --> 00:58:46.960
my car, and I'm not moving
it until you tell me what happened.

654
00:58:47.559 --> 00:58:53.679
I want to know what you saw
out there, Jeremiah. This guy started

655
00:58:53.679 --> 00:59:00.519
crying, started shaking, he wet
his pants, and he said, my

656
00:59:00.559 --> 00:59:02.519
life is over. My life is
ruined. I have my whole life ahead

657
00:59:02.559 --> 00:59:07.719
of me and now it's ruined.
And I got him to calm down,

658
00:59:08.320 --> 00:59:12.599
you know, I said, man, you still you whatever happened, you

659
00:59:12.719 --> 00:59:15.320
survived it. You still have your
whole life ahead of you. And he

660
00:59:15.719 --> 00:59:19.159
kind of like yeah. And I
said, do you want me to go

661
00:59:19.199 --> 00:59:21.400
in the house and get you some
more pants? And he looked at me

662
00:59:21.519 --> 00:59:27.400
like I was crazy. He was
wearing long blue jeans and he had wet

663
00:59:27.440 --> 00:59:30.639
his pants so much that it was
dripping off the bottom of his pants wave

664
00:59:30.840 --> 00:59:37.599
and he had not even realized it. And he would never ever tell me

665
00:59:38.119 --> 00:59:43.119
that was actually the last time that
I saw him for about I didn't see

666
00:59:43.159 --> 00:59:49.519
him again for about another twenty five
years, and that he would never ever

667
00:59:49.639 --> 00:59:55.920
tell me what happened out there,
But something very serious and very scary came

668
00:59:55.960 --> 01:00:01.239
out of those woods, and you
know, I don't know what it did,

669
01:00:02.199 --> 01:00:07.679
but it literally steered the p out
of him, No, no doubt.

670
01:00:07.679 --> 01:00:13.119
Wow, that is quite the reaction
I've I've never heard anything that wild

671
01:00:13.159 --> 01:00:20.599
before. Mark. This has been
incredible, and thank you for sharing just

672
01:00:20.679 --> 01:00:30.119
some really interesting times from your life. And you definitely experienced, even though

673
01:00:30.119 --> 01:00:34.440
you never had a visual, you
definitely experience I would say, some some

674
01:00:34.480 --> 01:00:37.960
Bigfoot activity over the years in that
corner of the state, no doubt.

675
01:00:37.119 --> 01:00:40.800
Yeah, Yeah, there's I have
heard. Of course. You know they

676
01:00:40.840 --> 01:00:47.239
have the Bigfoot Museum up in Northwest
Georgia. Absolutely, And I didn't even

677
01:00:47.239 --> 01:00:51.920
tell you about the one at Little
River that I made the comment on that

678
01:00:52.000 --> 01:00:54.400
was that was the last one.
Yeah, the one where you go off

679
01:00:54.440 --> 01:00:59.639
the roof of your car or something
like that. Yeah, just just to

680
01:01:00.280 --> 01:01:04.039
be brief, I won't even get
into why I was out there, but

681
01:01:04.119 --> 01:01:09.639
I was, actually I was,
actually I had a I don't know how

682
01:01:09.679 --> 01:01:15.360
to put it. I had a
run in with somebody who was very dangerous.

683
01:01:15.320 --> 01:01:20.599
This man was actually in the mafia, okay, and I was living

684
01:01:20.639 --> 01:01:23.159
in Atlanta, and he told me
to leave Atlanta. He told me to

685
01:01:23.800 --> 01:01:28.840
I better not be ever be within
one hundred miles of him again. End

686
01:01:28.920 --> 01:01:30.880
up finding out his name was Tom
Papania. But I won't I won't tell

687
01:01:30.920 --> 01:01:35.840
you all the detail, but if
you ever want to hear the greatest testimony

688
01:01:36.320 --> 01:01:40.159
you have ever heard, Tom Papania
got saved in prison. He was in

689
01:01:40.199 --> 01:01:45.079
the mafia, and he got saved
in prison and charges got dropped, a

690
01:01:45.239 --> 01:01:52.800
really cool testimony. And so I
went out to the Little River because I

691
01:01:52.880 --> 01:01:55.880
figured if he was going to kill
me, then I wanted it to be

692
01:01:57.840 --> 01:02:01.440
I would be by myself and nobody
else would get hurt. And plus this

693
01:02:01.599 --> 01:02:07.440
was the place that I was familiar
with and I knew my way around there,

694
01:02:07.199 --> 01:02:12.440
and so I thought maybe my chances
would increase of surviving it. So

695
01:02:12.599 --> 01:02:15.039
that's why I was out there,
and I was sleeping on my car that

696
01:02:15.159 --> 01:02:17.960
night. It was Memorial Day weekend, and we had there's a lot of

697
01:02:17.960 --> 01:02:22.039
people that had come out out there
that day. But then after the day

698
01:02:22.159 --> 01:02:30.119
was over, I went to My
car was part the old sixty eight Camaro,

699
01:02:30.280 --> 01:02:35.679
was part just thirty feet from the
edge of the canyon with the river

700
01:02:35.760 --> 01:02:43.400
down below. And so I was
extremely tired because I had been up two

701
01:02:43.519 --> 01:02:46.760
nights before, and so I said, I'm gonna fall asleep in no time.

702
01:02:47.480 --> 01:02:52.119
So what I'm going to do is
I'm going to lay here about two

703
01:02:52.119 --> 01:02:57.199
more minutes and then I'm going to
lightly snore as if I'm asleep. And

704
01:02:57.239 --> 01:03:02.159
literally on the third snore, I
heard a snap. And at the moment

705
01:03:02.199 --> 01:03:08.360
I was thinking, Okay, the
mafia somehow snuck out here without me hearing

706
01:03:08.360 --> 01:03:15.599
them, and but they stepped on
a twig and uh. So I had

707
01:03:15.639 --> 01:03:20.000
my my gun on my on my
chair in my hand on my chest,

708
01:03:20.000 --> 01:03:22.960
and I had my cover over me. So I threw my cover off to

709
01:03:22.000 --> 01:03:25.159
the right and I rode off to
the left because that was the side of

710
01:03:25.199 --> 01:03:31.079
the canyon. The other side was
about a quarter mile dirt road that went

711
01:03:31.119 --> 01:03:35.599
out to the main road. So
I figured if that somebody was coming down

712
01:03:35.639 --> 01:03:38.000
there to get me, they would
come from my right. So I rode

713
01:03:38.039 --> 01:03:42.800
off to my left and got on
the other side of my car, and

714
01:03:42.880 --> 01:03:45.599
uh, and you know that's That's
when I said, look, I've got

715
01:03:45.599 --> 01:03:49.079
I've got the gun. I've got
a gun out here, but I really

716
01:03:49.079 --> 01:03:52.760
don't want to shoot you. I
said, that was just a chance meeting

717
01:03:52.760 --> 01:03:55.480
in Atlanta. I don't know who
you are, so I wasn't thinking sasquatch.

718
01:03:55.599 --> 01:04:00.840
I was thinking mafia. And I
said, uh, said, I

719
01:04:00.840 --> 01:04:03.920
don't know who you are. And
I said, uh, I, but

720
01:04:04.000 --> 01:04:10.159
I could tell from your accent you're
probably from the New York area. And

721
01:04:10.320 --> 01:04:14.400
I can tell by the way you
dressed and just your demeanor that you are

722
01:04:14.440 --> 01:04:19.039
somebody that I do not want to
mess with. And uh, I was

723
01:04:19.039 --> 01:04:23.400
a pretty bad dude. I grew
up around bikers and stuff. But I

724
01:04:23.519 --> 01:04:26.760
knew when I met this man and
he threatened me, I was like,

725
01:04:27.320 --> 01:04:30.039
yes, sir, may I leave? Now? This was somebody I did

726
01:04:30.079 --> 01:04:34.840
not want to mess with. But
so, uh, you know, and

727
01:04:34.840 --> 01:04:38.719
and I said uh. And by
the way, also, I was like

728
01:04:38.800 --> 01:04:41.920
on liver seeing DoD Kno's the shakeest
gun in the West. But man,

729
01:04:42.239 --> 01:04:47.119
I was shaken. That's the way
I look. But uh, but so

730
01:04:47.320 --> 01:04:49.920
I said, you know, I
said, uh. I said the Lord's

731
01:04:49.920 --> 01:04:56.159
prayer I had before I went to
bed that night, I had been.

732
01:04:56.320 --> 01:05:00.280
I had been reading it and memorized
it, and I said, said the

733
01:05:00.320 --> 01:05:05.840
Lord's Prayer out loud and uh,
and everything was fine after I did that.

734
01:05:06.440 --> 01:05:12.639
And you know, I even I
even I don't go around saying God

735
01:05:12.719 --> 01:05:15.840
told me something, but I really
felt like God was saying, Okay,

736
01:05:15.880 --> 01:05:18.880
stand up, it's all right.
So I hesitated for a second, but

737
01:05:18.960 --> 01:05:21.840
I was like, okay, and
I stood up, and I looked around,

738
01:05:24.239 --> 01:05:27.639
and of course, even though my
heart was beating in my chest and

739
01:05:27.679 --> 01:05:30.559
that was making a lot of noise, of course I was listening for any

740
01:05:30.599 --> 01:05:34.079
sound, any other sound, and
I never heard anything else. I don't

741
01:05:34.079 --> 01:05:40.920
know how somebody got that close and
then got away without me hearing them.

742
01:05:42.280 --> 01:05:47.920
And I later realized that the snap
was much louder and different than somebody stepping

743
01:05:47.960 --> 01:05:54.079
on the twig. It was like
somebody had a stick that was about the

744
01:05:54.159 --> 01:05:58.000
diameter of a row of quarters,
and they were really strong and they were

745
01:05:58.039 --> 01:06:00.280
able to just snap it in two. That's about what it sounded like.

746
01:06:00.360 --> 01:06:06.639
And it was about twenty feet away
from me. So but yeah. Then

747
01:06:06.719 --> 01:06:13.320
the the next morning I hiked up
river. I had already decided if I

748
01:06:13.559 --> 01:06:15.559
if I survived this night, if
I lived through the night. I was

749
01:06:16.000 --> 01:06:19.599
I had practiced back flips all day
on cliffs that were from you know,

750
01:06:19.760 --> 01:06:26.000
ten to fifteen twenty feet, and
there was there was a big cliff up

751
01:06:26.159 --> 01:06:29.280
river about a mile and I said, if I survived tonight, I'm going

752
01:06:29.360 --> 01:06:31.599
to hike up there and I'm going
to do a backflip off that off that

753
01:06:31.639 --> 01:06:35.840
cliff. It's probably about seven year
or eighty feet high. And so that's

754
01:06:35.880 --> 01:06:40.000
what I did. I got up
there, I did the back flip,

755
01:06:40.719 --> 01:06:44.559
and when I came up out of
that cold water. It was nice,

756
01:06:44.599 --> 01:06:49.079
beautiful warm day both days and I
was up there. But when I came

757
01:06:49.159 --> 01:06:53.719
up out of that water and I
took a couple of breasts, I hollered,

758
01:06:53.760 --> 01:06:58.039
you know, I was happy.
I was whoo. And then I

759
01:06:58.119 --> 01:07:02.079
heard a whoop, which was I
noticed it was different than my woo,

760
01:07:02.199 --> 01:07:06.920
but I thought it somehow. I
didn't see whoever had gotten out there.

761
01:07:08.480 --> 01:07:11.920
You know, somebody had seen me
do the backflip and they were celebrating with

762
01:07:12.000 --> 01:07:16.800
me. But now I had done
a backflip. So I'm facing the cliff

763
01:07:17.599 --> 01:07:21.960
and I quickly scanned to the right
all down the cliff. It only took

764
01:07:23.000 --> 01:07:27.360
about two seconds where if anybody was
coming out there, they would have come

765
01:07:27.400 --> 01:07:32.239
from that direction, because there's a
parking area up there and the road that

766
01:07:32.360 --> 01:07:36.119
goes by up there, and there's
a there's actually a bridge about another one

767
01:07:36.159 --> 01:07:43.400
hundred yards upriver. So and there
was nobody out there. And then I

768
01:07:43.480 --> 01:07:46.800
quickly realized that no, this whoop
came from my left, and that's all

769
01:07:46.880 --> 01:07:51.599
wooded area up there, and I
looked up there, and uh, you

770
01:07:51.599 --> 01:07:57.519
know, I didn't see anything.
And I also realized I was I was

771
01:07:57.599 --> 01:08:00.280
right there at the waterfall, you
know, eighty what a pretty good sized

772
01:08:01.159 --> 01:08:05.119
waterfall, and I'm right there at
it where it's hitting the water. So

773
01:08:05.239 --> 01:08:09.800
whatever made that whoop, I heard
it very clearly. It had to make

774
01:08:09.840 --> 01:08:14.719
it a really good loud whoop for
me to hear it like that. But

775
01:08:14.840 --> 01:08:17.640
so I just I, you know, I thought, well, it's a

776
01:08:17.680 --> 01:08:21.319
bird. I wasn't thinking sasquatch at
that time. And I just swam back

777
01:08:21.359 --> 01:08:25.680
to the other side of the river
where I had had my towel and my

778
01:08:25.680 --> 01:08:30.680
pistol, and and I just walked
back, you know, hiked back down

779
01:08:30.800 --> 01:08:35.520
and had another had another good day
out there. There was a few people

780
01:08:35.560 --> 01:08:41.039
that came out there and and I
spent the night again, and I actually

781
01:08:41.119 --> 01:08:44.640
stayed all the next day and had
the whole place all to myself. Nobody

782
01:08:44.680 --> 01:08:48.960
actually came out on that Monday,
and I stayed until sunset the next day,

783
01:08:49.000 --> 01:08:53.359
so I'd made it. I'd stayed
out there for basically three days,

784
01:08:54.000 --> 01:08:57.560
never had anything else happened, even
though even when I was hanging out there

785
01:08:57.600 --> 01:09:02.680
all by myself all day long.
Wow, that is wild. What a

786
01:09:02.720 --> 01:09:09.720
way to end it too, Oh
man, Mark, thank you for contacting

787
01:09:10.880 --> 01:09:15.359
me back, and just a pleasure
chatting with you. I mean that.

788
01:09:15.399 --> 01:09:20.920
Man. If listeners have more things
that have happened in that northwest corner of

789
01:09:20.960 --> 01:09:26.119
Georgia, please reach out Guys Big
for Society at gmail dot com. But

790
01:09:26.199 --> 01:09:29.359
Mark, thank you so much for
chatting tonight. It has been a pleasure.

791
01:09:30.159 --> 01:09:32.399
Thank you, sir, been my
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792
01:09:32.600 --> 01:09:38.479
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01:09:56.000 --> 01:10:00.960
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798
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799
01:10:05.279 --> 01:10:09.760
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800
01:10:10.279 --> 01:10:15.159
this week to announce that I'll be
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801
01:10:15.199 --> 01:10:18.079
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802
01:10:18.119 --> 01:10:24.039
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803
01:10:24.079 --> 01:10:28.520
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804
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01:10:31.880 --> 01:10:36.880
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811
01:11:00.960 --> 01:11:06.439
For Society, we're headed to the
moon and here's a current update about going

812
01:11:06.479 --> 01:11:11.439
full time. So here we go. As of five twenty two, you're

813
01:11:11.479 --> 01:11:15.239
now at two hundred and two patroons
out of eight hundred and twenty four needed.

814
01:11:15.800 --> 01:11:18.960
That's twenty four point five to one
percent, almost a quarter of the

815
01:11:19.000 --> 01:11:24.159
way there, guys, brings us
down to six hundred and twenty two left

816
01:11:24.840 --> 01:11:28.319
to join the patroon. So a
huge thank you to Barbara, Gregory,

817
01:11:28.439 --> 01:11:31.159
Dana Craig, Jeff, Steve,
reckyde Norm, Meghan, Dan, Daddy

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Chatty, Joe Eber, Eike Jewels, Josh, Ryan Todd, Nathan Gabe,

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Bill Lucky, Meghan, William,
Bobby, Joe, and Inger for

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joining recently. If you want to
join in the fun, you can join

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over at patreon dot com forward slash
the Big Foot Society. I'll see you

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there, and again, thanks for
listening. Her and I can get out

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here, we can tell our stories. Maybe there's somebody else out there listening

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it's too afraid to tell their story. Maybe this will give them the courage

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to come out. And now I
feel so bad about it. Who cares

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what anybody thinks. I know what
I saw. I know what's out there.

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That's all I care. Please let
people know, Please let them know.

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If you ever see one of these
things, you need to tell because

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if you don't, then shame on
you. You have shame on you.

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Wait there's more. Monsterfest two is
coming up soon and Beautiful can't Ohio and

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I will be there doing a live
podcast. If you've ever wanted to meet

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big Foot Society in person, this
is the year to do it. My

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special guest in the live podcast episode
will be Justin from Cryptids of the Corn.

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You will not want to miss this
live episode and then you can hang

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out with me at Monsterfest. You
can go to small Town Monsters dot com

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to get your tickets. Pre sale
tickets are twenty dollars fifty cents and tickets

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at the door will be twenty five
dollars. But kids twelve and under are

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free. How many places can you
go to where at kids twelve and under

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are free? Not many. New
this year are the live workshops. I'm

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excited about this, extremely excited.
How to cast a footprint, how to

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collect DNA in the woods, Ghosts
hunting tools one oh one, how to

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do research also there's going to be
food trucks outside this year and new guests,

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new speakers, people you won't I
mean, the coolest thing about last

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year is that I got to meet
people I was not expecting to be there,

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people like less Odell, John Hickinbottom, really cool, big people that

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I never would have thought that I
would have met before. And Seth Breedlove

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made it happen by making this incredible
place for the community to get together.

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Monsterfest in can Ohio June twenty eighth
through twenty ninth. Guys, do not

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miss this year. If you missed
last year, don't miss this year.

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Head on over right now to Smalltownmasters
dot com. I hope to see you there.