Silver Star Bigfoot! | Washington

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0:46 He's the individual that took the Silver Star Mountain Bigfoot photos in Gifford Pinchot National Forest on November seventeenth, two thousand and five. So it's privileged to talk to him about his experience with that and finally get his side of the story out there in his word. So, Brandy, welcome to the show. How are you doing. Today, sir, Great thank you for having me on. Absolutely, you know, I feel like we've got a lot of ground to cover. I would I would love it if if first, if you wouldn't mind taking us back to that day what you had to do to get to that point where you took these photos that probably most Bigfoot enthusiasts have seen at one point in the other and just feel free to tell your story from your side of things, please, Okay.

1:39 Well it happened on in November. On November seventeenth, two thousand and five, I decided I was going to go up to hike a Silver Star Mountain. A friend of mine was going to go with me, but he had to cancel, and so I knew i'd hit snow and I'm always prepared when I go out, so I had all my gear that I needed to go up, so you drive up. I came out of the battleground up to Copper Creek area and was taking the edge trail and when I got to the parking lot, it it was lightly snow there. There wasn't that much the road to get up there now is it's almost last time was really almost possible to get up, And then I parked and got ready to go up, and I'm going and then the snow started getting deeper, you know, from from like three or four inches to a foot and they get higher and higher. So I'm heading up Edge Trail, which is on the on the east side of the Silver Star Ridge, and I'm hiking along and there's this arch there that you it's a rock arch, and you walk through that, and the snow is getting pretty deep.

3:10 And at certain points they're like like the cartoons where you you're walking along and I mean the snowball starts and gets bigger and bigger, white goes down. That was happening, and so I got to this one little it's like a small in cave or like cave, but it's not huge or anything. So I sat in there and would decide whether I should keep going up Ed's Trail or not because it was getting really snow and I didn't want to slide down because it's almost cliff that part area, And so I decided to turn around and I went back through the arch, and then I started zigzagging climbing the the ridge up and it took a while. It's usually about a two hour hike to get up there.

4:00 Well by the time I got there's like four hours, so I'm still zig zagging a long, and I go up. I get on the top of the ridge and I'm walking along. This area has Indian pits and stuff, and you can see all over the place. There's a beautiful good of day. I could see all the mountains and stuff. So then I walk and I get to I always go into the area of Silver Star Mountain is like a saddle. It has the north peak is higher and the south peak is lower, so there's a little saddle there. So I came up into the middle of the saddle and I started heading up north to the higher elevation peak where there's it used to be a lookout tower.

4:47 And so I must have walked twenty to forty feet our yards wasn't that far. And all of a sudden, I got this eerie like my whole body electrified. It was just like ah, And I didn't know what I thought. I didn't know what it was or anything, but I thought maybe a cougar or something because or bear. But I didn't know, all right, if it not, But I just I'm not scared to be out there. But that was the first time I had that experience and so I kind of waited for a little bit, like two or three minutes, and then I started heading farther up.

5:30 And it was a real windy day. I mean real windy. The winds were coming from the east, just blowing like crazy. And so I get it to the top and I always look up look at the mountains. I always look at Mount Saint Helens, Mount Rainier, Mount Adams, and came around to Mount Hood and as soon as I looked at Mount Hood, I saw this black object. It looked like a big black rock down there on the side other peak of Silver Star, and so I go, whoa, and I got I put my backpack down, took out my camera, and I stayed myself because of the winds and everything. And it's just straight on my left. It was a straight down drop there. Just it just really dropped.

6:19 And and now I'm at I'm at forty three hundred feet up. That's how high the highest peak is. And so I take the camera out and I snapped the picture and then it stood up like a whoa, and so so then I took another picture, and then I took turned and took a picture of the Columbia River. And then I took the other picture and walked down the hill after that. Now I didn't know what it was at the time, because it was just weird to see something like that, you know, And I'm standing in snow.

7:02 I've been in the snow all day, and I'm up to my knees in snow and I'm pretty cold, so I kind of I didn't know what that was. And I just glad I got a picture of after all this time, and I wish I would have went down and explored it more, but I didn't. I didn't have the time. I had to walk back to my car, and so I got my stuff gathered up and I headed back down. And that's pretty much happened. That is absolutely fascinating from what you could see in your viewpoint. How tall would you estimate what you saw was?

7:47 Oh, I I don't know it was it was it was. It was big. It was big and black, and but I know that later Cliff Barrocklan went down there with me, or went up there with me, and he estimated between six and eight feet tall. But but be it. It was on the other side of the little ridge there and I'm standing in snow and I'm up to my knees in snow. It could be taller, it could have been smaller, because you don't know what's on the other side. Was it kind of on a rock or was it daped down like I was, because it's for sure really a heavy animal.

8:31 Absolutely. I'm sure that you've looked at these photos hundreds of times over the years. I know I would. I would look at them every day. Are there any details that you've noticed about looking at these photos that you always go back to that you're like, wow, Okay, yeah, it definitely was a big foot. Just look at this one thing in the photo. The thing is, I look at it that they're blown up now, and I can tell you a story about that whole thing there. But I noticed there's tracks in the blow up. I at that time didn't even think about going down and looking down there. I just decided I had to get out back out because I didn't want to get stuck up there because of the snow and everything. But what happened was when this I guess I could keep going on that. What happened was is that on Thanksgiving I was going to my son's house and I started showing everybody that the pictures of the that I ha took for that day. And so I'm going through and showing the pictures and then those pictures came up and somebody goes, Bob, what is that. I go, I don't know. I took those pictures last week or was because it was on Thanksgiving, and my son's a computer whiz, and so he got on there and started

10:04 blowing them up. And then they go because you can see the arms down down to the knees and stuff, and it's hunched over and stuff. And somebody goes, that looks like a bigfoot, and I go, are you kidding me? So then so then I got on the I started I called the paper, Columbia Paper, and I called the news channels around the Portland area, and only one person was interested and it was channeled to news. But then when we were going to do the interview, they decided that it wasn't that important at the time, and there was some sort of dog thing going on in Hillsbury, in Hillsboro, and so that ever happened. But so then I also got on on the internet started looking around and I saw the bfr OL Bigfoot Research Organization, and I text our emailed them and I said Hey, I have some big pictures that you might be interested in.

11:14 And this guy text me, emailed me back, and his name is John Challenger, I mean Calendar, John Calendar. And he says, can I come down and look at those pictures? And I go, sure, come on down, and so we set up a date. He came down like the next day or two days later. I can't remember what day that was, and he didn't. He looked at it and he goes, Wow, those are awesome pictures. And so then he did a story of me, which you can see on the BFR page if you look up Scamminia County Bigfoot of that year. Another thing about that. After I got done, I also looked on when I found the BFR, I looked on that web page and there was a father and son in that area in the nineteen seventy or seventy one that they're hiking up there and there's this big black thing chuck and rocks at them. So I thought that was kind of strange. It kind of makes my pictures even better because there's other people. And over the years I've noticed people right and that they've been up there and they've been hearing the sound of the Bigfoot, you know, the howling, and so basically that's it.

12:41 I'm that sorry now. That that's that is really cool, especially that they were able to get someone there that quickly. I mean, if you look at the site, I believe it was November twenty fifth that John was there with you, which is just over a week after this happened. Very very interesting stuff. Have you ever had any other professional analysis or anything done to the photos? No, I haven't. I know that the BFR did some stuff on it, and one person compared it to the Patty film pictures, you know, the film because of the cone head and things like that. And the other one person was Daniel Perez that does the big Foot times.

13:36 He contacted me. He wanted me to take them up there. I took them up there. And the other the next person was Cliff Rockman, and he's the one that got me into doing the Finding Bigfoot TV show. Yeah, I would cansider both of them a friend of the show. When you took so you took Daniel up there, and you also took Cliff up there at different times. Correct different times, And there was another time it took Cliff Matt Prewitt, Tyler bounds and I think there was another person, I'm not sure. And we went up there around the same time. And when we were coming back down it was at nighttime and the blood moon was out, and that was pretty.

14:32 Cool, big for society. Who will be right back after these messages? Well that that must have been just beautiful looking. Did anything happen out of the ordinary on any other those trips when you took those individuals. Up No, only the the only thing that happened different was when Daniel Perez and I were up there. Uh, we happened to be up on the top talking and this this couple came up and they were teachers from Portland and we asked them or Daniel, why why are you up here? And they was explaining that they wanted to go hiking and they saw the picture of the big Foot, my picture and and Daniel goes, well, this guy, here's the guy that took it, and so they wanted to take a picture of me and and ask questions and stuff. So that was kind of interesting. And then when we were hiking back down and I've never seen this before, but there was we were in some snow at the time Daniel and I were up there and there was these ants. They were and then the snow is like a foot to the yard deep in this one area. But there ants on top of snow making holes.

16:06 You know, they're coming from the ground up to get this. I've never seen anything like that. That was pretty weird, that's what you're asking about. But otherwise I hadn't seen anything as a bigfoot thing going on up there at that time. That's that's pretty weird. I've never heard of snow ants before. That's really really interesting someting to think about. Have you gone up there by yourself since that time? I hiked by myself all the time. As matter of fact, I just posted on Facebook that this year is the twenty years since I did it the last okay, one of the last times I went. I went ten years after the pictures that I took, and I went out there by myself and literally I took a video of it and some pictures and it was like a monsoon rainstorm.

17:05 It was so terrible. And this time I posted that it's twenty years since I took the pictures, and I want to know if anybody wants to go up and we could start planning to go up there. And so far I only got one person that was is thinking about it. But I also need to know what if I take people up there, they have to be able to hike connect the conditions there. They're not irregular. I'm trying to do the same trail I did last time, and it's not for the light harder that it's not, you know, So it's a long hike to get up there.

17:49 So just throwing it out. There, there you go. It definitely sounds like it is not for the beginner. In multiple hours to get where you were going, you need to be ready. I mean, it sounds like you had drop offs right right to the side of you as you were up there. You've got to not be a beginner outdoors man or hiker if you're gonna even consider this, right. I mean, it's a great hike in the spring, and I mean the summertime through fall it's beautiful. I mean the flowers are out during the springtime, summer, it's beautiful.

18:32 You can see for miles up there, all the way to Mount Rainier, all the way down. You can see the Sisters, you can see to the coast, you can see Saddle Mountain in Oregon. It's literally a beautiful place to go. Is this the main experience you feel that you've had with sasquatch over the years. Well, my very first time was when I was a kid in the seventh in nineteen seventy and we were heading to my grandma's house. But we stopped off in a little town, couch Cashmere. It's between Manatchi and Leavenworth. And it was in the morning and everybody's still sleeping.

19:15 I had told my asked my brother, Aye, Russ, you wanted to go out and walk around the woods. And he said, yeah, let's go. So we went up and we were up on top of this mountain, this ridge, and over there on the east side, the trees are pine trees mostly, and you can see farther. It's not as dense as it is here except soulber Star that's wide open. But we were on this one ridge and all of a sudden we looked over to this other ridge and we see this thing, huge, big brown thing laying back and forth and stuff. And I asked my brother, what do you think that is? What is that? He goes, I don't know. He goes, it's not a bear. Hey, let's go check it out. So we had to go down into the to this camp through this canyon and came back up. And by the time you got up there, it was gone, of course. And and the reason I figured now the reason was going back and forth, walking back and doing like I think it smelt us or something or whatever. So but when we got up there, it reeked so bad. It was I never smelt something that bad in my life. And so then we got to my grandma's house where we're going in Elk City, Idaho, and first thing out of her mouth was when we told her about the story. First out of her mouth was, you saw a Sasquatch. And then she started to telling

20:47 us all these stories of the loggers and miners in Idaho in that area that they were, and road construction people of the Sasquatch, all the stories that she told us. It was. It was an amazing thing. But after that I hadn't really uh. I did find an article on in the Seattle Times back in the Saturdaies about it, but after that, I hadn't really thought about it. And then there was Menica. I had have had encounters after the Silver Star incidt and I'm still having encounters that are amazing. That just amazing. I found I found a footprint the other day, well, a couple of them. They went out into the swamp. I took a picture of that.

21:39 But I'm I'm seeing this stuff. I'm hearing tree knocking, which I never would have thought of this stuff in still until I started hanging out with the other people that know this stuff. Like in Portland once a month, this guy called right, I'm having a brave Heart, Guy Edwards was doing this thing called Hopsquatch And every month in Portland they'd have Hopsquatch there and people from the show of Fannie big For there. Certain times you never know who would be different. And Bob Gimley was there, the guy that did the Chewi costume, he was there.

22:35 There were so many people, Bobo Renee, all those people were there. It was really fun. So the more I learned about this the Bigfoot, I learned more stuff that, hey, i'm out in the woods that might be a big foot or might not. You just don't know. Different sounds that goes on. How long ago was that happening? Which one the Hopsquatch? Is that a current day event? No, okay, it's been gone. I'm gonna guess twenty years to stop. They used to have it once a month and it was so many. Some people said pictures. There's like I have a picture that was there and you can see some of the people that you knew in there.

23:27 It was Greaty was that the Lucky Labrador or something like that, a pizza, sandwich place beer? It was really great. So are you saying it's the Was it the individual that made the Chewbacca costume or the individual that wore it. I'm just curious. The guy that made it, and he was there to talk about the Patterson film and saying that that there was no way that that could be faked because they didn't have the technology in the sixty seven when that when Bob Gimley and the Patterson guy took the pictures the video and he said there's no way and stuff, and it was. It was a really good discussion. I can't I don't want to butcher what he said because it's been so long.

24:21 That's that's extremely interesting. If you talk to the Cliff or talk to Guy Edwards, he might have some video that I'm not sure. Now you'd mentioned that you are current day experiencing things when you go out and finding tracks and things like that. Yeah, I've had encounters. There's one encounter that I had that an area called Indian Heaven. I was up there by myself. I was I was going to go camping.

25:01 I hand me camp okay, So I got my stuff ready and I was hiking up to it's called Indian Horse Track Indian Heaven, and I was going up there, and I was almost two. I actually got to the lake where I was going to camp, but I met these two guys. I knew they were handy campers and they were heading back where I had just come from the parking lot and I had already walked probably two three miles in. I asked them what they were doing. They goes, well, we're going to go to these lakes. And I go, hey, I've never been there, and I've been all hiked all that area before. I just this is one of the areas I hadn't been, so I said, hey, do you mind me going with you? And they said, sure, come on back. So we ended up getting going back and then it was getting a little bit later, so they go, we're going to go back down to the parking lot and make dinner and then we'll head up there.

25:59 I said, okay, So we have dinner, we make dinner and everything, and it's getting later. It's probably around and this isn't this isn't the fall time, so it's probably four o'clock or four point thirty. And then they did, those two guys decided that they weren't going to go, and I said, well, how do I get up there? Because I want to go up there in the area. So they told me how to get there. They said, the trail's probably really overgrown and stuff like that, but if you fall the creek that it will go up to the first lake, and there's a bunch of lakes up there. And so I hike up there, and there's trees blown over and until the trail is kind of you kind of lose the trail, and then you gain the trail and keep going and it's getting darker and darker, and so I get up. I said that I get to this place, I think it's a good place to set up. I'm tired by this time. I've hiked probably two miles in or three miles, and I and I set up my handmache. I ate some fix up dinner and stuff, and I said, okay, it's time to, you know, go sleep. So I'm laying my hammy and I'm just about ready to doze off, and all of a sudden, snack something hit this tree and it's like twenty to forty yards away, and then all of a sudden, it went, like I said, it was smack, and it sounded like it went. Everybody like that got up and this went

27:34 on for about a minute minute thirty or a half or whatever, and I just got tired of it and I just wasn't the Houston it or something like that, and I took out my gun and shot it up in the air and it shut up. So then I got up next morning and I go and I'm only like like one hundred yards or so from the first say, so I kind of explore that area. And then when I got home, I looked up that area because I had to research where I went and stuff. Same thing I did with the Silver Star thing. Well on this one here I found out and they used to have these guys that cleaned the trails. They're rangers, and they were up in that area where the lakes are at, and they had any they had an incident up there where they had their pack horses or mules, and they know their horses started getting a little chill skittish. They got a little skittish, and then one of the guys looked over and he saw this big black thing that it wasn't a bear, and they said, I camera exactly what he said. But it was a big black thing.

28:53 It was scaring their horses and stuff and all that. And you can look it up on internet if I tell you it's had. But these lakes were all named for the wives of the rangers that were up there and working the trails and cleaning the trails. So I thought that was really interesting. And that was a pretty fun incident that I had. I'll tell you. So, I was down in the gorge, that's the gorgeous between on the Columbia River between Washington, Oregon, and I was on the Washington side, and I'm in an area I call Wizard Falls. I won't say the name of the place because now I heard it's all closed off for environmental thing.

29:38 But I was hiking up in that area and zig zagging up these cliffs of stuff to get up, and all of a sudden I found I found two left feet footprints. I could the right foot every time it would land in the solid rock. So these things were and I got pictures of this, of the footprints, and these things were about seventeen inches to eighteen inches long, the footprints. So I took that and then I kept zigzagging. I kept going up. About forty five minutes later, I was way up at the top of this area and I'm walking along and like I said, I'm at the top, so there's there's not there's no cliffs or anything like that.

30:25 And I'm walking along and about twenty feet from me, a big rock the size of a microwave drops right by me. I stopped. I look around, and I go, uh, okay, I know that whatever they are. At first I thought, okay, At first I thought, did this thing drop out of a tree? But if the trees aren't windy or anything like that, and it just that was just kind of a weird thing. But that's the first thing out in my mind. Could this drop out of the tree? And I looked around and stuff. I couldn't see that that, I could hear nothing, but I think that basically whatever it was was warning to get out of that area.

31:08 You know. It's the same with the silver Star thing that when my body got electric electrified. I found out later that the Bigfoot will send out like a bad signal, you know, sign a high pitch something that's telling you to get out of their area. Big for society will be right back after these messages. Now, like I said, just learning all this stuff back in the day. So that's one of the things that happened to me. And I remember this other time. I was up at eight k by eight caves on not Saint Ellen's and I used to hike with these guys that are we did night hikes and we were doing the only cave which a lot of the only the locals really know about this cave at that time. And so we're getting back to the car. It's about three in the morning and the guy we're getting up to his car and he clicks his for his alarm on this key thing and they went beep beep like that, and all of a sudden, this ungodly uh screeched yelled

32:40 out and it ran it away from us. The ground shook and it was pounding and busting branches and trees getting away from us. And we both were the two of the three of us go what was that I don't know about that really shook the ground. I don't know what that was, but it was big, and yeah, that was that was. And so I think it was like a month or three later that I heard on some TV show about bigfoot. It made that screeching sound or something, and that's what I figured that was a bigfoot.

33:25 Now again I don't know, because of course, it's just something that happened, and it's the weird thing that these things happened to me. And I mean to find footprints side tree knocking. The first time I heard tree knocking was I was camping at Frog Lake down in the south part of Mount Hood at about four point thirty the morning. I'm out hiking around and all of a sudden I hear the tree knocking. I get a log and I hit the hit it that the tree that kind of like see what would happened? And then it answered me back, and this went back and forth a little bit of time, and then it just stopped talking.

34:06 I might have not hit the tree that many times for that, but okay, I should not. Randy, this is some incredible things in some really incredible places that you hear about, some of which I mean people that don't go people that go out by themselves. I'm thinking of like Indian Heaven. There's a lot of missing persons cases out there. But has there ever been a time when you've been out, you know, doing some hiking or exploring and something has happened and you've been like, you know, this is a little bit too much for me.

34:51 I'd rather not be here, but I've got to deal with this. I was hiking in the gorge on the Organ side, and I was doing night hike by myself. I've done a lot of those during around New Year's and stuff. I like that coming in the years. And I was out there on this trail. I wish I could mend which the trail was. I have to think about it. But all of a sudden I hear somebody behind or down the trail coming up the trail, and I just dove off the trail and and I thought that was weird. But I did ever see anybody. It was just the noising walking up through the trail. I thought that was weird, and and did I. I did turn around and go back at that time, because that was kind of spooky to me.

35:46 So were you able to hear the steps go by you and there was nothing there. Visually, yeah, it was. You can feel it. Oh, that's I just remember. Okay. So I was up in the up on this one place that I parked, and it's up called Lookout Mountain. It's above large mountain in the area of Silver Star, and I plan on hiking around the mountain all the way around it. It's called Lookout Mountain. There's a lookout up there radio there's actually a radio tower up there now. And so I parked my car, got myself riding, and I'm hiking down and then I knew I was going all the way around the mountain.

36:36 Never did this before. The trail disappears. I'm going down this cliff and stuff, and I ended up somehow, and I've never been in this area. Somehow, when I was climbing down the cliff or walking and scooting down the cliff, I hit a hornet's nest or bee hive or something like that, and it started attacking me. So I I actually literally jumped and leaked and bound and got down out of that area. And so later probably about another half hour forty five minutes, I'm down in this canyon and there's no trail like I said, I'm just I kind of got a homing device on my mind of I know where I'm at or whatever for some reasons, because I don't carry a compass, I don't carry GPS system or nothing like that. So then I walking down in this one area, I'm way down. I just cross this creek, and right next to me, probably about probably five yards to ten yards away from me, some come through the trees and big heavy weight. I could feel it.

37:55 But at the and I'm gonna still say this because I don't know because I didn't see it, but I heard it, and it's going I was thinking there was elk and they didn't know I was there or whatever it was didn't know I was there. And it was like three or four of them went right by me up but they, like I said, it was like five to ten yards away, and they just went right up the hill past me. And I thought, well that that was just weird and so and then eventually. I got up and finally found the road on the other side, the main road, and hiked my car, and that probably was about I'm going to say seven or eight miles I walked.

38:39 I call it bushwhacking, Okay. Right, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's that's uh, I've done that with us is back. I mean I used to do a lot of East Coast hiking in uh well, it was like a high school some nineties. But yeah, you do some bushwhacking, you gotta definitely have your skills and tools with you just in case you never know. There was another time I was walking out when we lived in Squim, Washington for a little bit, and I took a hike out. I still can't remember that name of the huge gigantic forest park that they got there, but I'm walking along and some catches my eye and I took pictures. I got my phone out and took pictures of it. And that was weird because that I took pictures of it. And then right after that, I saw this leaf that looked like a face that was on there, and I go, what the heck is that sasquatches tell you? But this thing looked like this thing was a sasquatch I saw, and I showed it to what is his name, I'm gonna say Todd something does.

40:00 He lives up in Agnew Washington, which is by Squinn, and he does bigfoots the strange days He does, and oh was that to his he showed me it's told that's right, not both. And I just met him last two years ago at the Bigfoot convention here in Longview, and I showed him the pictures and he showed that to his wife and they she goes, that's the same thing I saw in the same area, and we both call it. She called the green Man because it looks like it looks like a big, green, mossy bigfoot thing.

40:46 It was. And I just took two pictures. You see, you can see the face, you can see the pecks and everything like that, but it ran off. I got two pictures of that. And then later about a week later, I was up on the Dungeon Nass River in Squim area and I found a friend of mine that I forgot his name, but we went up there and looking for stuff, and we found bigfoot coming out of the Dungeons River and you can there's this big rock and it smashed the rock. I got pictures of that too, coming out of the river and went up the hill and this thing went right up the hill and I couldn't even climb. It was just just almost eighty degree eighty degrees embankment. You know, straight up it was crazy.

41:40 That's extremely interesting. I mean those sound like photos that would be incredible to see. I don't know if those are any that you feel comfortable sharing with with myself or listeners. I'll let you think about that for a while. The whole Olympic Peninsula. You talk to people over by forks, and there's always sightings that are occurring over there. The whole rainforest extremely extremely wild stuff. You've had more than a few sightings, and so you've probably thought about that for a while about what you saw. Do you have any thoughts about what you think Bigfoot is exactly?

42:30 I believe he's a creature. I mean it walks like a man, but not like a man. The way his legs move and the feet, the way his feet at the ground, it's almost like a gorilla. But it's not a gorilla. It's not I I don't know if it's interdimensial. I've heard that before. I don't know. It's just they know the woods, they're out there, and mean the big thing is people go, well, why we haven't found any body or anything, And I go, well, have you ever been in the woods. There's thousands of elk in this area right there I live in now, and you might find a couple bones or whatever, but you don't find a lot of them, and there's thousands of elk. Care if you ever been out in the woods and found a porcupine bones, probably not. The nature takes care of itself.

43:36 So you know, they start, the body starts deteriorating fast, and you got all these ants. You've got rats, mice, possums, raccoons, you name it. We got it that they're going to to make that body disappear and thes and branches and falling down and naturally decomposed, decomposed. Uh you know what I'm saying. Oh no, absolutely, I mean that's that is the best way to give an answer to that question. That's a question.

44:16 You do get a lot. But you know, Randy has been a really enjoyable conversation with you. Before we do start to end out, I just want to make sure were there any other things that you wanted to make sure that you had shared in this interview. I'll say one thing about the silver Star thing. If I would have known now, because the whole thing was people said, well, why didn't you zoom in on it? Why didn't you do this? Why didn't you do that? Well, my camera was very small, it wasn't professional camera. I'm lucky you had a camera. Time they go, why didn't you go and look at for a footprints it? And I already said that it was cold. I was getting cold. I needed to get back to the back to my car.

45:01 And there's so many things that happen, and I'm not afraid to talk about it because a lot of people are afraid about talking about this stuff that happens. Because I feel things happen in me all the time, like this being out in the woods, and I'm out in the woods most of the time whenever I can be. So I just want people to when they go out to enjoy yourself, but leave it as it as you had found it. Don't trash it. Okay, that's all I think. That's great advice. Thank you for coming on the show today, Randy. That has been a really fun time chatting with you.

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