Stuck in Our Truck and Bigfoot was Right Outside!

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Welcome to Bigfoot Society. In this
episode, I talked to Mark about his

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Bigfoot encounters in northwest Georgia in the
adjacent area of Tennessee. If you've also

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experienced something in these same areas as
Mark did regarding Bigfoot, please reach out

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to me immediately after this episode.
And if you've had an encounter and you'd

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like to be on the show,
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and for this particular episode, Mark
state on extra hour to talk about

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some very strange things that have happened
in his life that are not related to

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Bigfoot. You won't want to miss
that. There's a teaser at the end

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of this episode, but for now, let's get on with the show,

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all right. Bigfast Society got the
privilege of talking to Mark Eller Senior.

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He's from Chickamauga, Georgia. He's
a gentleman. I talked to off and

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on for for quite a while,
but it's been a while in common for

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us to be able to sit down
and chat as it were over the phone

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and Mark, it's great to talk
to you again. Yeah, glad to

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be here. I'll tell a little
bit about myself. I'm fifty six years

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old as of yesterday, born and
raised Chattanooga, Tennessee, on the outskirts

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of town. We lived near a
wooded area area called Missionary Ridge, a

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big stretch of woods facing us was
a lookout mountain to the to the east,

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to the west, and then Sigle
Mountains, Raccoon Mountain, and then

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just five or six other mountains a
chatta nugga's kind of like a bowl.

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So we spent a lot of time
in the woods, and we hunted and

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fished. There was myself and three
brothers and a sister, mom and dad

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and a grandmother who lived with us, and we hunted fish to supplement our

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meals. And so anyway, spend
a lot of time in the woods.

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And so I wanted to tell you
about my education. Dropped out of high

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school at the end of twelfth grade. They wanted me to come back for

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three more months. I didn't want
to, so dropped out. Two years

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later, went to college, got
in the social degree, and about fourteen

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years later I went to college and
got a bachelor's degree in business administration from

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Belle Haven University, Mississippi. Was
a night school programs and I worked for

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the Department of Transportation Tennessee Department Transervation. I was a right away agent because

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I had had real estate experience.
I had been a real real estate broker

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for fourteen or fifteen years and it
was kind of handy. A lot of

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education with the right of way that's
eminent domain. And so just say I'm

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a little bit educated, always reading. I'm always trying to learn something else.

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Actually, am currently enrolled at the
University of Pittsburgh trying to get an

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engineering gree in the field that I
worked in now on a fiber optic technician.

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I've been doing that about fifteen years. I do averages for all kinds

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of companies all over Metro Atlanta,
and so anyway, like to learn,

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like to read, let them know
what's going on. So I'll start out

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with my first kind of encounter I
had. It was nineteen eighty two.

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I was fourteen years old. My
dad had just bought a boat from my

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uncle and we'd never had a boat. Before we'd always bank fished, and

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we were excited. It was just
he and I and we were going to

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an area called Raccoon Mountain Pump Station. That's a hydro electric power station that

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TVA Tennessee Valley Authority operates. They
actually suck water out of the Tennessee River

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rept this big giant pop with a
slow pump and it fills up this big

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lake at the top mountain. And
then when extra power is needed, they

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drain that lake very fast and it
goes right back into the river and it

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turns turbines and generates electricities. Well, there's a boat ramp there. We

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launch our boat and we go up
river. Weould be going towards Dunlap,

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Tennessee. So Raccoon Mountain Pump Station
is would be west of Chattanooga off US

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Highway forty one. And so we're
we're out fishing. We're heading to a

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certain location my dad I wanted to
go to and uh kind of way up

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river and we were just blow blowing
springs branch. Only reason I know that

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is I just I was looking uh
to see it kind of exactly where we

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were, and it blowed blowing springs
branch is a bunch of huge cliffs on

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the left side of the river,
their fanstone clif lifts, and there's all

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kinds of caves that you can see. If you're on on the opposite side

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of the river, you can see
these caves, just the openings and small

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ledges, and all of that property
is owned by a trust company, a

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bunch of a bunch of attorneys.
And I don't remember what year they did

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this. It had to been,
you know, prior to nineteen eighty two.

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But they bought a whole bunch of
land that butts up against some wildlife

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management property. They bought it put
in a trust so no one could ever

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buy it and develop it. And
you can't hunt on it. You can't.

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If you get caught on us,
you go to jail. So I've

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never been to the property. I
know where it's at. But anyway,

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we get to this area and we
throw out the anchor and we're fishing and

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it's real quite beautiful day, beautiful
skies, no wind. You know,

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a few birds. You can just
see a couple of hawks and flying around.

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And we noticed that every time we
caught a fish, we would hear

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this this uh kind of a whooping
noise and uh, and I asked my

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dad one, Dad, what is
that? And every time we caught a

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fish and uh, he said,
I don't know, this is like an

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owl. I said, well,
I've never heard an owl sound like that.

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Then we noticed if we if we
caught a fish that wasn't limit size

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and we threw it back, we
would hear from different directions, but it's

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always coming from that cliff. We
would hear a like a uh. It

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sounded like somebody that was exasperated,
you know that that we threw the fish

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back. And this went on for
several hours, I mean, and every

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time we caught a fish, we
heard the whoop, and we talked about

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it and and we we never could
see anything. Dad went to the other

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side of the river, the Fores
side where we could look up on those

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cliffs, and it was just too
high and the and the openings were too

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dark, and we would looking for
owls. And so went home told my

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mother about it, and she thought
it was funny. And I never thought

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of it again until I saw a
spot on a one of Dave Coltis's movies

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four and one Missing The Hunted,
where he was talking with Ron Moorhead and

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they played the Sierra signs and it, man, it hit me like a

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brick that I recognized those sounds.
And then it was about the time,

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right around Christmas, I had went
and saw my mother and I asked her,

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did she remember, and she said, oh, yeah, your dad

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and I talked about it a lot, and she said he told me,

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which my dad never shared this to
me, it sounded like a monkeys.

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And the same the year I was
born, in May of sixty eight,

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Chattle Nuoga had a had a very
small little zoo, it's called Zooville,

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and they had they had acquired a
a newborn chimpanzee and his name was Hank.

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And we were actually worn on the
same day of the same year,

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and I always kind of, you
know, like to go see him because

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of our little connection, and he's
funny and very entertaining. And he actually

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passed away three years ago, I
believe. Anyway, my mother said that

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Dad said it sounded like Hank at
the zoo hooping and hollered. So it

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really validated my memories, because memories
are not always correct, and you think

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you know this, and you think
you know that, especially the memories of

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the child so that was my first
my first encounter of I don't know what,

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but man, it sure didn't sound
like what Ron Morehead and those guys

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recorded up in the Sierra Mountains.
Were there any parts of that that also

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sounded like how when you listen to
Ron mooreheads tapes it almost sounds like a

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language or was it just you know, you could pick out parts of it

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like, okay, kind of sounds
like that was there? Never never heard,

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never heard the language part it was. I knew at the time that

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we were being observed and we were
thinking it. We were being at least

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I was it was out because that's
what my father said. And you know,

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we we knew about big Foot and
all that stuff from seeing the seeing

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the the what was it in search
of? It came out in the seventies

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and and my dad talked about it. My dad said, you know,

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there's a lot of woods around here, and there's you know, who knows

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what's what's out there and what's not
out there. And we never really talked

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about Bigfoot other than when it would
come on television or something like that.

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But no, we never heard the
language. It was just and it almost

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sounded like juveniles. It was not. It was not a guttural whoop or

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it wasn't. And when they when
when they made their uh exasperation, it

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didn't sound like it came from something
very large. But of course it was

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going through a through a a small
you know, canyon in the water.

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Probably play tricks on the sound as
well, but the sound carried because of

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the water and where was very wide
right there? How high up were those

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caves up on the side of the
wall. Oh my gosh, I've been

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wanting to go back. My cousin's
got a boat and he fishes that area.

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I would say sixty or seventy feet
and maybe the highest spots. But

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the way, the way the holes
are. I was looking at it today

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on on Google Earth three D,
kind of like like the street view,

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but you know, you're not on
the street, and you could you could

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see that, you could see the
holes in the caves. Like I said,

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if you if you went on if
you go on Google Earth and go

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to the TVA Raccoon Mountain pump station
and start there and go you'd be going

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uh, I think we would be
northeast direction. Uh. So you start

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there and go to the right,
go to the river to the right,

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and it snakes around the whole bunch. And then you look for in larger

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screen and you look for the blowing
blowing springs branch, and then then look

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down your three D you'll see the
you'll see those cliffs. And it brought

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like a lot of memories to see
and that today it was amazing that that

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I could actually find it. And
because I spent quite a bit of time

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while I was at work. A
lot of time while I'm working, I'm

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sitting waiting on technicians to contact me. While i'm I'm usually testing in a

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data center and they're out in the
field, so I have a lot of

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times. So I was looking like, God, can't believe that I can

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see these cliffs like this yet very
high sixty seventies maybe maybe eighty feet at

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the at the at the tallest point, it's all stands one. And also

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kind of similar question, how close
were the caves from the top of the

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cliffs. So if something was to
come from the top, how far down

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would they have to get to get
to those clifts? These opening are sporadic.

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You'll have maybe maybe twenty five or
thirty feet up. You'll have a

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ledge and then beyond that ledge,
maybe two or three four feet of a

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ledge, and then there's a big
opening, and then maybe one or two

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close to each other, and then
ten or fifteen twenty feet above there'll be

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two or three more over the little
ledge, and then some of them don't

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have a ledge. There's just holes. And I always wondered how those holes

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were made. And I had I
had never I had never fished there before

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with my dad, but I had
been on a boat trip with my uncle

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in that same boat that my dad
botorm and he would always go beyond that.

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But we would always look at those
caves and he'd pour them out,

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you know, and even when I
was nine ten years old, he'd pour

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them out. You know. Wondered
who made them caves or what they those

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caves. But all that always kind
of made me wondered. While that property

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was bought up and put into a
trust, and that kind of that kind

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of made me think, well,
maybe somebody was trying to hide something.

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Yeah, it's very it's very interesting, and I mean, wilder things have

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happened. I mean it's I don't
think it's out of the question to say

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something like that that could have happened
have you ever done any research to see

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if anyone else has had any experiences
like that in that area or any weird

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things happen. Well, I'll tell
you this. If you go on the

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Bigfoot Map, there's a guy I
can't think of his name. I can

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tell you the name of the map. Give me just one second. There's

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a guy that's created the map,
and it is Bigfoot startings all over the

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country, and it's called Bigfoot Map
Projects, and there are hundreds and I'm

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looking at it right now and all
through Tennessee, Georgia, Alabama. I

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mean, it's a sea of red
and red indicating sightings and it's just it's

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amazing a number of people that have
had sightings, like I mentioned to you

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earlier. Today the Chattamnooga Times was
an article about a group of Bigfoot walkers

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that are local that we're having a
conference. I didn't get the chance to

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read the article, but I will
when I get back home. I'm still

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in Atlanta right now. But anyway, I thought it was kind of ironic

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that we're doing our interview tonight and
this was in the Chattanooga paper today.

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So there was a siding A couple
of months ago when I think it was

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mister Moneymaker that had it on his
podcast with husband wife's that had a siding.

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They almost hit one on US eleven
in Trenton, Georgia, which is,

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you know, fifteen fifteen eighteen miles
from where I live in chick Mauga,

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So which is probably twenty five min
austrom Chat Nigger area. Yeah.

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Uh, bigfootmap dot com is the
website. Uh, if your if listeners

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are wanting to check that out,
if you haven't already. It's awesome.

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Like you look at the area that
Mark is talking about in a little south

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of it, down in the Crocker
Crockford Pigeon Mountain Wildlife Management Area, it

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is just lit up like the fourth
of July. There's all sorts of stuff

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there. My grandson and son in
law and I camped there four weeks ago.

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It was it was the last week
of March. And I'm gonna tell

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you, I'm ashamed to say that
I didn't know that that that that Pigeon

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Mountain Wildlife Management was twenty eight twenty
six thousand acres. I had no idea.

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I've been I've been to different cars. I didn't know they had camping

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and when I found out, we
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and uh we heard all kinds of
noises and we were we were listening

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state up very and this is a
primitive camping area. There was one other

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group, two older guys, that
were about a thousand yards from us,

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so we were the only people there. We heard some pretty loud movements,

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and I have mountain visions and an
infra red but we never could spot anything.

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But yes, a pigeon mountain is
well as the crow flies. It's

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about twelve miles from where I live, but it's about a forty five minute

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drive to get to it because you
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a mountain and a half really to
get to it. It's interesting. It's

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even lit up more than the if
you go further east the Blue Ridge,

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Georgia area cherry Log over where the
Bigfoot Museum is, and everyone talks about

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how that area, of course is
very, very full of Bigfoot encounters.

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But I mean, it is not
lit up on this map even close to

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the area that where referring to.
So well, I'm going to tell you,

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let's slay Tennessee. You've got four
or five major cities So you've got

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Memphis, you've got Nashville, you've
got Cookville, you've got Chattanooga, and

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you've got an ox So that was
that's five major cities. Between those cities

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is uh, several one hundred miles
of woodland. And I can't I couldn't

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tell you how many how many state
parks and national parks and wildlife management areas

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there are. There's areas you can
get on the interstate and drive and if

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you don't have gas, you better
you better get gas quick because there's a

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lot of nothingness between between these places. And it's it's a lot like being

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in Seattle. Uh, It's it's
a lot like being in Montana. Now

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those areas, the big towns are
a lot further away, but the nothingness

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of wilderness between those big towns is
the same. I mean, there's nothing,

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just just woods and very easy,
very easy for a cryptid to hide.

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And I don't even like to use
the word cryptied because if you just

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look at anecdotal evidence, with all
of the credible sightings just within the last

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one hundred years, all the you
know, from I consider myself a credible

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person, I didn't see anything on
this particular instance, but I heard something.

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I'm educated part person. I know
I know that that something happened.

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And I know I have listened to
about fifteen different varieties of owls how they

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sound, and none of them sounded
like what we heard, and so I

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know it wasn't the owl. And
uh, I don't think it was a

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chimpanzee. But anyway, then you
take the footprints, and then you take

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the hair samples. You know,
the DNA project that Dave Plis and Scott

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Carpenter did, I mean they proved. I mean they got the proof and

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if you hadn't read that or or
seen that documentary, you need to see

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it because they they spent a lot
of time and a lot of money,

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uh with with this DNA project.
So it to me, it's not it's

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not a cryptis It's there people will, I mean, at one point somebody

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will. I mean, they had
they had hair, hair follicles with mitochondrial

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DNA. They had blood, slava, and flesh that they were that were

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determined once they once they tested it
with the human genome, it came back

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as in the human the humans,
the human uh, whatever you want to

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call it. I can't think what
you call it, but anyway, it

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was human. But the hair follicles
are not human. Hair follicles are are

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are are slick on the outside edge
of bigfoot hair follicles are ribbed, they're

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jagged there. They look like they're
the scale. They look scally. There's

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no other animal other than the sasquatch
that has the same hair fall, and

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they have those hair falls all over
the countries, but they don't they're testing

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them with known animals. They comes
back unknown primate. I don't think it's

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a prime. I just don't think
it's a prom I think it's something else.

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It's it's very interesting, and you
know, we'll we'll see what comes

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in the future. I know there's
also another DNA study going on right now

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with Darby or cut out of I
think North Carolina State, perhaps a college

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up in that area. And so
you know, hopefully we get some solid

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answers, you know, within our
lifetime at least, but well, I

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think we will. The disclosure is
coming in a lot of different ways,

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in a lot of different areas.
I have another story or too, if

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you'd love to hear the store because
that sounds like but I have a couple

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other incidents that happened, and I'll
be glad to tell you about it.

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Yes, extra one happened, and
this kind of this is chronological. And

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I looked up the dates on calendars
because I wanted to be precise. And

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so I got married on September twenty
seventh of nineteen eighty six, and I

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picked the day because that was the
opening of the squirrel seasons and a small

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game season, and I knew I'd
never forget my anniversary. So anyway,

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so Monday, October the twentieth,
nineteen eighty six, we hadn't been married

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just a couple of weeks, my
young wife wanted to go camp and her

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parents were absolutely upset about it.
And we had our own home, and

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I had the eye, had a
job, and we were living away from

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her our parents and my parents,
and so her dad had a pickup truck

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and a one of those campers that
slid in the back of the pickup truck

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and had like the sleep route went
over the top of the truck. So

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they insisted instead of taking my vehicle, I took his true and use their

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campers. That way, if it
rained, we wouldn't get rained on and

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neither one of us would melt or
die whatever. But this was a very

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very mild October for where we lived. So anyway we we I went ahead

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and you know, did what they
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his campus, and so we went
to Harrison Bay, which is a state

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park, which is backwaters of the
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It's a hydro electric dam, and
they when they built the down,

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they backflooded all this property. And
this is a slew that I spent many

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weekend nights with friends quote unquote camping, which meant sitting around a campfire,

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drinking a whole heck of a lot
of beers. And nobody had a tent.

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And uh so, anyway to this
area, I knew there would be

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no one there. It was a
Monday night in October, and she and

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I went and where we went was
a road named Maddox Cemetery Road because it's

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a dead end of that road was
Maddock Cemetery, very very old cemetery and

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if somebody wants to look it up, it's off of a North Highway fifty

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eight in Chattanooga, and they have
biden in the road used to be a

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two lane road now I think it's
it's four lane with a turning lane.

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And I don't know if Maddox Cemetery
Road still has a sign. However,

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you can find Maddox Cemetery on Google
Maps or Google Earth, because I looked

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at up myself and this the other
day. And so anyway, so we

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go to end of Matic Cemetery Road. There's a little road that me and

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my friends cut in there that lead
right up to the water year ago.

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We cut it in there. I
pulled the truck in there, turned around

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and get I don't know why I
didn't turn it to where the front of

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the truck was aiming to the to
the towards the road the exit, but

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I aimed it a different way.
I don't know why I did that.

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But anyway, so my wife was
adamant about sleeping in a tent. So

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I set the tent up and there
was already a fir ring that probably me

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and my friends built years earlier.
And I built a fire, and we

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have dinner and work, chip chat
and have a nice time. And then

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it's bedtime and the fire is going
down. We were getting going the tent

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and the truck and camper is about
thirty feet from the entrance of our tent.

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So we're just laying there talking and
I've got the zipper unzipped to the

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tent so we could actually see the
stars, you know, but it was

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probably a little about a three foot
by three foot area. I guess I

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set the rain the rain thing off, what did you call that? So

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we could see the stars because there
was no no expected. All of a

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sudden we started hearing footsteps and it's
stink footsteps. And I'm a hunter.

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I'm hunting my whole lot squirrel,
rabbit, deer, you know, I'm

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a hunt. So I raise up
and uh, I actually turned my body

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around to where I can hear where
the noise is coming. So it's coming

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from the left side of the road, but it's in the woods. And

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I hear step step, step step, and the steps were they were sounded.

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They sounded either something was moving real
slow or it had a pretty good

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strike. And I thought, well, dank, somebody's coming through here.

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And so I had I had a
thirty five Marling magazine full. I had

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my had, uh three fifty seven
with an eight inch barrel, and that's

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all we had with us. And
so I get up on my knees and

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I where my face is up to
the netting, and I shout out that

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direction. Uh, hey, we're
camping back here, and I'd appreciate it

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if you'd find somewhere else to fish. There's a whole lot of shoreline,

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so please find some other place to
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second, and then it moved again, this time a little slower, and

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then it actually moved the sort of
west of us. I could hear it

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going off in the distance to the
west where our hint was, but it

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was still in a westernly direction,
coming towards us. But it moved away.

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Then all of a sudden, we
hear a splash in the water.

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Now this is uh you know,
uh we're at I know you is filled

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with what we call red Georgia clay, because the Georgia clay runs all the

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way into Tattooga. A red clay
doesn't know any state bounds, but anyway,

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packed hard red George clays. Where
where we're at, and the the

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ledge from the edge of the where
the land meets the water probably isn't but

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about two feet, and there's no
waves or anything unless the boat comes through

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makes way. Anyway, we hear
a splash, and then we hear Now

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the water is probably two foot deep, maybe maybe deeper, but then we

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hear splash, splash, splash.
You could hear something taking steps. I

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was six foot five at the time. If I was danging in two flut

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of water, you wouldn't hear my
footsteps, because I would my feet that

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would not come out of that water. It would be moving in the water.

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And I thought that was extremely strange, and my wife got scared,

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and it was coming our direction in
the water. And now we can't see

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anything. Now there is it's a
there's a full moon, but I can't

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see. We're not close left to
the water to where I can see what's

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going on. Well, then it
quietens down for a few minutes. Then

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all of a sudden, we hear
something coming out of the water on the

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opposite side of us, on the
east side of our tent, probably thirty

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feet forty feet away from us.
Now we're only like ten feet away from

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the wood edge. It's walking through
the woods and I hauler out again.

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Hey, I appreciate it if you'd
find another fish. We're camping here.

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And then it stops, and then
it crossed. I hear it not just

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started coming towards us, but it
basically I felt like it was coming out

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of the woods, crossing the road, going back to the other side of

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the road where it was. And
then it started coming back towardes and I

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haullered out again. I said,
I've got a gun and I'm not afraid

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to use it. So I told
my wife, I said, I handed

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her the rifle and I said it's
got a bullet in the chamber, and

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she knew have a shoot and all
you had to do was pull the hammer

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back and pull the trigger on that
rifle. I said, don't shoot me.

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E at the tent and I said, I'm gonna run out, and

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I said, I noticed there was
an old tire land over next to where

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I parked. I'm gonna run out
there and I'm gonna and I carried the

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pistowood, I'm gonna grab that tire
and I'm gonna throw it on the fire.

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Now the fire was just embers and
no flame. And I said,

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then as soon as I thought on
fire, I'm gonna run jump right back

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into the tent. Don't shoot me
when I come back in, unless it's

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not me. So anyway, and
I said, it won't take but a

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minute or two if that fire to
blaze up. And I said, when

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it does, we're going to run
and get in that camper. And a

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normal person would say, why wouldn't
you run and getting the truck and started

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up and leave. Well, her
dad's ignition switch was messed up and it

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had hey, he had it kind
of rigged where he had a little Alan

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wrench that he put in there and
you pushed that Alan wrench for word and

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it would start the truck. Well, when we got there, it got

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parked. Getting in down the truck, the Allen wrench fell and it fell

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on the ground. And I told
her to remind me of the Allen ranches

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over there on the ground and that
way tomorrow or that we were going to

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leave on Sunday, I think,
or on Wednesday or Thursday. Uh,

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remind me to get this Allen wrench
so we don't lose it. We won't

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be able to get out of here
if I don't have it. So that's

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why, because I didn't want to
take the time to try to find this

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Allan rench to get the truck started, and then I had to back up.

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Now, I was just so I
ran and grabbed the tire through it

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on fire, jumped in the tent
and uh. And it took just a

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minute or two for the for the
tire to blaze, and it did and

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it turned. I don't know if
you've ever seen a tire that on fire,

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but it turned the daylight just a
quick minute. And I grabbed her

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and she took the blankets and the
pillows, and I had both guns and

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we ran to the back of the
truck. Now, this camper was a

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little bit shorter than his eight foot
bed of his truck, so I had

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to lower the tailgate and then opened
the door, helped her in. I

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got in, closed the door,
raised the little window of the door,

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reached out and closed the tailgate.
And that way, if something had to

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come in, he would have to
open the tailgate and then open the door,

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and I was going to be opening
the fire. So I got her

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up in the in the sleeper area
that went over the cab of the truck,

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and I laid in the floor facing
that door, and we heard whatever

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this thing was walk around our truck
for several hours, and I yelled out

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several times. I didn't want to
shoot, I did want fire. My

407
00:31:42.640 --> 00:31:47.119
weapon off, And I don't know
why I didn't. I could have fired

408
00:31:47.119 --> 00:31:52.119
my weapon off at any time in
the air and mine scared whoever whatever it

409
00:31:52.279 --> 00:31:59.400
was off. And but I just
have I've just been talked about guns safety.

410
00:31:59.720 --> 00:32:04.240
You shoot a bullet, it goes
somewhere and then it comes down somewhere,

411
00:32:04.559 --> 00:32:07.480
and if you don't know where that
bullet's go and you probably ought not

412
00:32:07.519 --> 00:32:09.039
to shoot it. And I just
didn't. And I guess that was my

413
00:32:09.920 --> 00:32:15.200
muscle memory training of growing up around
weapons, and so I never did shoot.

414
00:32:15.440 --> 00:32:22.920
But finally, finally it went away
and stopped circling our camp. And

415
00:32:22.599 --> 00:32:25.759
uh, I mean it was it
was warm enough that I had these the

416
00:32:25.880 --> 00:32:30.640
camper had crank out windows and the
windows hatch greens on it. I had

417
00:32:30.640 --> 00:32:32.920
the windows opened a little bit all
the way around, just to get some

418
00:32:34.000 --> 00:32:37.920
airplanes out there, because we didn't
there was no power to this camper.

419
00:32:37.319 --> 00:32:40.359
It was just slid into there because
we had no intentions of using it.

420
00:32:40.839 --> 00:32:45.319
And so we're sitting there and and
it was kind of it was kind of

421
00:32:45.359 --> 00:32:50.599
muggy because it was a very mild
October. It was probably uh in the

422
00:32:50.680 --> 00:32:54.519
upper sixties even at night, and
so I could hear, and I could

423
00:32:54.559 --> 00:32:59.480
hear it walking in circles and never
did see it, never did see it.

424
00:33:00.160 --> 00:33:04.559
When daylight came, we were ready
to go, and uh, I

425
00:33:04.839 --> 00:33:09.319
very cautiously stepped out and walked all
around, and I could find no prints,

426
00:33:09.119 --> 00:33:14.640
and I didn't really expect to find
any prints. I could see my

427
00:33:14.839 --> 00:33:17.920
prints where I ran from the tent
and I was briing Tennis's where I ran

428
00:33:17.960 --> 00:33:23.119
from the tent and grabbed the tire
because I was running and stopped quickly,

429
00:33:23.160 --> 00:33:27.359
and I could see the I couldn't
see the tracks of my shoes. Would

430
00:33:27.359 --> 00:33:30.839
like to see my prints. But
what we did see is I walked over

431
00:33:30.559 --> 00:33:35.720
to the west side of our camp
area and you could see the water was

432
00:33:35.759 --> 00:33:40.440
clear and still you could see holes
in the mud beneath the water. It

433
00:33:40.559 --> 00:33:45.160
was perfect clear, you could see
the bottom there were they were, and

434
00:33:45.279 --> 00:33:47.519
I'm not saying you can say foot
prints, but you can see where some

435
00:33:47.519 --> 00:33:52.519
something walked in their stride, and
and you know, looking through water,

436
00:33:52.640 --> 00:33:57.880
the distance could be skewed or whatever. But these these strides were pretty pretty

437
00:33:57.880 --> 00:34:01.039
far apart. But like I said, whatever it was was walking, when

438
00:34:01.079 --> 00:34:05.200
it would take a step, its
feet would come its other foot would come

439
00:34:05.200 --> 00:34:08.000
completely out of the water and splash
back into the water. You could see

440
00:34:08.039 --> 00:34:14.480
those holes in the in the dirt
below the water on the shoreline for about

441
00:34:14.519 --> 00:34:19.079
thirty feet from where it went to
where it came out. So you just

442
00:34:19.159 --> 00:34:23.079
have to just imagine. I had
no idea, you know what what what

443
00:34:23.119 --> 00:34:27.480
that was. I don't think it
was a I don't think it was a

444
00:34:27.519 --> 00:34:31.159
person, because any normal person somebody
tells you, hey, I've got a

445
00:34:31.159 --> 00:34:37.159
gun and I'm ready to defend myself
and would you please leave because we're camping

446
00:34:37.199 --> 00:34:43.639
here, any normal person would would
leave. And they that whoever whatever that

447
00:34:43.840 --> 00:34:49.559
was did not. That's a wild
account, man, That's probably one of

448
00:34:49.599 --> 00:34:53.400
the more intense ones I've I've taken. Did you find the Allen Ranch on

449
00:34:53.480 --> 00:34:58.679
the ground? I did? I
did find it was right on the ground

450
00:34:58.880 --> 00:35:01.559
next to the trucks. And I'll
tell you this was my first wife.

451
00:35:02.320 --> 00:35:06.920
Her name was and I spoke to
her and she said it was okay.

452
00:35:06.280 --> 00:35:10.559
We're good friends. We had four
kids together, and her name was Connie.

453
00:35:10.639 --> 00:35:15.280
And she said she'd be more than
happy to attest to the account of

454
00:35:15.400 --> 00:35:21.039
what happened. And we talked about
it, and she said, I went

455
00:35:21.119 --> 00:35:23.559
through my account and she said,
uh, that's exactly what happened. She

456
00:35:23.559 --> 00:35:27.400
said, I remember it. She
said, I have had not marriages about

457
00:35:27.400 --> 00:35:30.320
that, And she said, I've
told people about that one hundred times.

458
00:35:30.760 --> 00:35:34.519
And sometimes we'll get to we'll have
a family to get together, and of

459
00:35:34.599 --> 00:35:37.559
course we share children and grandchildren,
and we will be at the same birthday

460
00:35:37.559 --> 00:35:43.440
parties together. And I'm remarried and
being married twenty four years to my second

461
00:35:43.440 --> 00:35:45.679
wife, and so we're all we're
all adults. We get along just fine.

462
00:35:45.840 --> 00:35:52.280
And she'll have somebody there, maybe
the guy she's married to. Now.

463
00:35:52.400 --> 00:35:54.000
She said, hey, tell him, tell him what happened on our

464
00:35:54.000 --> 00:35:57.800
camping trip. And I tell him
and he goes, well, that's exactly

465
00:35:57.800 --> 00:36:00.400
what she said, you know.
So yeah, she's she's my validation.

466
00:36:00.679 --> 00:36:04.400
It happened. It happened. And
I sort of put my hand on the

467
00:36:04.440 --> 00:36:07.039
stack of Bibles. That happened.
Wow, And what year was this again?

468
00:36:07.119 --> 00:36:12.639
Mark? It was nineteen eighty six, nineteen eighty six, So I'm

469
00:36:12.679 --> 00:36:17.519
guess October, right, And I'm
guessing in that area there probably wasn't a

470
00:36:17.519 --> 00:36:21.719
lot of were there a lot of
houses? Like I'm looking at the map

471
00:36:21.840 --> 00:36:28.320
and oh no, that's state park. There are some houses on that are

472
00:36:28.360 --> 00:36:32.960
on the Harrison Bay. It's in
another area. Most of that when the

473
00:36:34.159 --> 00:36:37.760
TVA built that, they bought they
bought all that land up in the nineteen

474
00:36:37.840 --> 00:36:43.840
thirties. And actually my great grandfather
was a state He helped to lead that

475
00:36:43.880 --> 00:36:49.880
whole program. They paid a dollar
and acre for people's farm land, and

476
00:36:49.920 --> 00:36:53.280
then a lot of prospectors came in
and bought bought the rest of it because

477
00:36:53.280 --> 00:36:55.880
they knew that people would want to
live on the river at certain spots.

478
00:36:57.000 --> 00:37:00.639
But they made a state park around
there, and there is arena, uh

479
00:37:00.679 --> 00:37:05.679
that's there, and then this would
be this would be north of the arena.

480
00:37:07.960 --> 00:37:12.039
If you if you were able to
look up Maddox Maddox Chapel Cemetery,

481
00:37:12.519 --> 00:37:15.079
I pulled it right up and Uh, just the other day I was telling

482
00:37:15.079 --> 00:37:17.800
a friend, Uh, one of
one of the guys I worked with.

483
00:37:19.079 --> 00:37:22.320
Ironically, he's not from here,
but his wife is from the area I

484
00:37:22.360 --> 00:37:24.360
grew up, and she went to
the high school right down the roads there,

485
00:37:24.880 --> 00:37:30.920
and she said that she didn't remember
that road. But they they actually

486
00:37:30.960 --> 00:37:35.440
found the Maddox Chapel Cemetery and sent
me a screenshot of it that I looked

487
00:37:35.519 --> 00:37:38.000
up and found it myself. But
the Maddix Chapel Road, the entrance to

488
00:37:38.039 --> 00:37:44.039
it got changed where they have to
imagine widening a two lane road to a

489
00:37:44.039 --> 00:37:46.280
four lane with a with a you
know, a turning lane in the middle

490
00:37:46.320 --> 00:37:49.920
of it. They took took a
whole lot there, and there was a

491
00:37:49.960 --> 00:37:53.079
lot of property to take because you're
right there on the on the bay.

492
00:37:53.639 --> 00:38:00.840
Anyway, mm hmm. It's it's
a really interesting account, just especially if

493
00:38:00.840 --> 00:38:05.639
you look at a map, and
I would recommend listeners look at a map.

494
00:38:07.239 --> 00:38:10.840
It's just it's so interesting this how
this whole area is laid out.

495
00:38:12.039 --> 00:38:15.559
These things happened, like I said, I did. I never said it

496
00:38:15.599 --> 00:38:19.159
was a big foot, but I
don't think it was a person or any

497
00:38:19.239 --> 00:38:22.519
sane person, or it could have
been an insane person that was had a

498
00:38:22.639 --> 00:38:28.880
very very very long stride. Either
way, it's it's like you're in a

499
00:38:29.119 --> 00:38:31.679
You're in a bad situation no matter
what it is, it's not a fun

500
00:38:31.719 --> 00:38:38.760
situation. When you were listening to
something walking around, then did you hear

501
00:38:38.800 --> 00:38:44.679
any other sounds that were happening at
the same time. No, we got

502
00:38:44.760 --> 00:38:46.880
it was quiet, and see the
thing about it is the only reason I

503
00:38:46.920 --> 00:38:51.079
heard I should have mentioned this,
the only reason I guess I would have

504
00:38:51.119 --> 00:38:57.159
heard the footsteps uh sooner. I
mean, I mean I would have heard

505
00:38:57.400 --> 00:39:01.599
the footsteps probably later on and what
I did. But we were laying there,

506
00:39:01.719 --> 00:39:06.360
and you know, it's still warm
out and there's like a million frogs,

507
00:39:06.440 --> 00:39:09.639
and I don't remember hearing any crickets. Well we did here an hour

508
00:39:09.760 --> 00:39:15.880
or two and h and a few
night birds, but the frogs were almost

509
00:39:16.039 --> 00:39:21.519
almost deafening, uh where they were
chirping because it was still so warm,

510
00:39:22.039 --> 00:39:24.320
and uh, all of a sudden
it got quiet, and my wife said,

511
00:39:25.039 --> 00:39:28.800
did She said that the did the
did the frogs go to bed?

512
00:39:30.360 --> 00:39:31.440
I guess I guess they did.
They all went to better at the same

513
00:39:31.440 --> 00:39:37.519
time. And then with within within
a minute or two, I hear the

514
00:39:37.519 --> 00:39:39.440
footsteps. But she said, is
that a deer? I said, no,

515
00:39:39.639 --> 00:39:44.800
that's a dear don't make my deer
does not make those kind of steps.

516
00:39:44.840 --> 00:39:49.440
Those. That's a person, somebody
on two feet walking. I can

517
00:39:49.480 --> 00:39:52.400
tell you that for sure. I've
heard I have tracked. You know,

518
00:39:52.880 --> 00:39:58.719
I could have killed I could have
killed a thousand button bucks that were legal

519
00:39:58.800 --> 00:40:00.960
to kill. Uh. But I
I wouldn't. I always waited for a

520
00:40:00.679 --> 00:40:06.440
big a big buck, and you
know, just just for the sort of

521
00:40:06.480 --> 00:40:08.440
it. And I know what deer
sounds like when they walk to the woods.

522
00:40:08.559 --> 00:40:10.840
I know what a coyloti sounds like
when I watch through the woods.

523
00:40:10.840 --> 00:40:14.800
I know what a bear sounds like
when I watch to the woods. This

524
00:40:14.880 --> 00:40:19.840
thing was not any of those things. And so yes, I wish I

525
00:40:19.840 --> 00:40:23.199
had mentioned that. But yes,
it was definitely quiet. I mean,

526
00:40:23.400 --> 00:40:27.800
there was not even any boats in
the water. Because this has been a

527
00:40:27.840 --> 00:40:30.280
Friday night, there would have been
boats out on the water. You could

528
00:40:30.320 --> 00:40:34.360
heard music, people playing their radios
in the boats. For a half mile

529
00:40:34.440 --> 00:40:36.920
or more, you could have heard
it. There was nothing at all.

530
00:40:37.000 --> 00:40:39.480
You couldn't We were so far back
you couldn't hear traffic, and we were

531
00:40:39.519 --> 00:40:44.920
only about maybe a mile from Highway
fifty eight. But there's so much woods

532
00:40:44.960 --> 00:40:49.679
right there where we were in this
little slew that the woods. We couldn't

533
00:40:49.719 --> 00:40:53.360
hear cars. We couldn't see the
lots of cars. So yeah, it

534
00:40:53.440 --> 00:41:00.760
was quiet, really interesting. It
feels like I'm going to guess someone listening

535
00:41:00.760 --> 00:41:06.239
out there has had some I just
feel as like there's probably something else that

536
00:41:06.239 --> 00:41:10.239
has happened in this particular Harrison Bay
State Park over the years since nineteen eighty

537
00:41:10.239 --> 00:41:15.119
six. So contact me listeners or
put in the comments if you've experienced something

538
00:41:15.159 --> 00:41:22.480
weird there, but mark really interesting
stuff so far. But what else have

539
00:41:22.559 --> 00:41:28.079
you experienced as well? Well?
I've got I've got another bigfoot related and

540
00:41:28.079 --> 00:41:34.599
it's not bigfoot related, it's bigfoot. I had a horrible food injury in

541
00:41:34.639 --> 00:41:39.119
like twenty forty fourteen. I lost
my achilles tendon and had had thirteen operations

542
00:41:39.119 --> 00:41:44.320
and it was to the point to
where I could no longer do my job

543
00:41:44.360 --> 00:41:51.280
as a Department of Transportation. And
I've had a CDL licenses nineteen nineteen eighty

544
00:41:51.360 --> 00:41:55.920
nine, nineteen eighty nine. So
I have an opportunity after rehabilitation, I

545
00:41:55.920 --> 00:42:00.519
have an opportunity to go to work
in the old fields, drive a truck

546
00:42:00.760 --> 00:42:04.480
and made quite a bit of money. That was twenty fourteen, and then

547
00:42:04.679 --> 00:42:08.920
the oil prices dropped and the money
was no longer there for being so far

548
00:42:08.960 --> 00:42:15.679
away from home, and myself and
my brother in law were up in os

549
00:42:15.800 --> 00:42:20.440
Dakota working, so we decided to
come home and we got a job of

550
00:42:20.719 --> 00:42:27.559
team driving. We were driving for
Transport America, and so somewhere around June

551
00:42:27.599 --> 00:42:30.320
or July, my brother in law
had to go home because my sister was

552
00:42:30.360 --> 00:42:36.239
getting ready to have a baby.
So I was driving by myself. So

553
00:42:36.440 --> 00:42:40.360
I looked this up because I actually
made notes of this when it happened,

554
00:42:40.400 --> 00:42:44.599
and I told my what told above
people about it. So I went back

555
00:42:44.599 --> 00:42:47.840
to my notes and looked to refresh
myself to make sure it happened. On

556
00:42:47.880 --> 00:42:54.079
Tuesday, August the eighteens of twenty
fifteen, I was driving the semi like

557
00:42:54.119 --> 00:42:59.519
I said for Transport America. I
dropped my loaded trailer at a storage lot

558
00:42:59.679 --> 00:43:05.679
in West Memphis, Tennessee, and
I dead headed from Memphis to Little Rock.

559
00:43:06.159 --> 00:43:09.000
And those who don't know what deadhead
means that when you drive your tractor

560
00:43:09.039 --> 00:43:13.920
without a trailer, and normally it
means you don't get paid or you get

561
00:43:13.920 --> 00:43:19.800
paid a lot less. So anyway, I had got a Little Rock fixed

562
00:43:19.880 --> 00:43:23.440
up my loaded trailers, but I
only had about two hours left of my

563
00:43:23.559 --> 00:43:27.480
drive time for the night, and
I was trying to get the heck out

564
00:43:27.480 --> 00:43:34.079
of there so I could make it
back to Memphis. So I see,

565
00:43:35.400 --> 00:43:40.440
I was traveling east on I forty
between Brinkley, Arkansas and Forest City.

566
00:43:42.000 --> 00:43:45.639
And I looked that up after the
fact because I didn't know where the heck

567
00:43:45.679 --> 00:43:50.559
I was because it was two o'clock
in the morning when this happened, and

568
00:43:50.599 --> 00:43:54.800
there was no cars on the interstate
at all at this time, and which

569
00:43:54.880 --> 00:43:59.360
was kind of unusual. But there
was another tracking trailer right next to me,

570
00:43:59.440 --> 00:44:02.920
big old guy, uh driving a
Peterbilt. And we were and and

571
00:44:04.280 --> 00:44:07.440
nowadays hardly any truck drivers used CEBE
radios anymore, but I'm a CBE guy

572
00:44:07.920 --> 00:44:12.400
and he happened to be too,
and uh he was. He pulled up

573
00:44:12.400 --> 00:44:16.480
next to me We're driving side by
side, and picked up his his CD

574
00:44:16.679 --> 00:44:21.320
mike and showed it to me,
and then I picked up mine showed it

575
00:44:21.360 --> 00:44:25.079
to him, and then he gave
me the finger numbers with his fingers what

576
00:44:25.280 --> 00:44:29.039
channel to go to. And we
were chit chatting back and forth to the

577
00:44:29.039 --> 00:44:36.519
CBE radio. So uh we were
traveling, man, and uh this chip

578
00:44:36.599 --> 00:44:38.280
that and back and forth. And
we were in this section in this area

579
00:44:39.159 --> 00:44:46.800
between Brinkley and uh Forest City.
Uh it's absolutely nothing. I mean,

580
00:44:46.920 --> 00:44:55.559
man, it is nothing, nothing, nothing but woods little exits uh exit

581
00:44:55.679 --> 00:45:00.960
or two here and there didn't have, you know, restaurants iron here,

582
00:45:00.400 --> 00:45:06.400
gas station sign or a hotel's hign
it said no services. So there was

583
00:45:06.519 --> 00:45:09.280
nothing. You could see, no
lights of any cities. There was no

584
00:45:09.400 --> 00:45:16.239
ambient light at all other than the
crystal clear black sky and a full moon.

585
00:45:16.519 --> 00:45:21.639
And we could see it's like almost
like daylight on the road. And

586
00:45:21.679 --> 00:45:25.599
then all of a sudden and I
could probably really and truly this section we

587
00:45:25.599 --> 00:45:28.920
were at. I could probably see
a mile a mile and a half ahead,

588
00:45:29.039 --> 00:45:32.760
made just about because the moon was
directly abo. And so to give

589
00:45:32.800 --> 00:45:38.960
you the layouts, the interstate was
two lanes on the two lanes going east,

590
00:45:39.199 --> 00:45:45.880
then a median with about a four
and a half foot concrete divider,

591
00:45:46.119 --> 00:45:54.280
and then two lanes going west.
Then there was probably forty or fifty feet

592
00:45:54.360 --> 00:46:00.039
of right of way grass right of
way that led up to a fence that

593
00:46:00.159 --> 00:46:06.239
at least six feet off and on
both sides, and which is normal for

594
00:46:06.239 --> 00:46:12.119
for for a road like that,
so off in the distance, and I

595
00:46:12.159 --> 00:46:14.960
can't I really can't tell you how
far off in the distance it was,

596
00:46:14.960 --> 00:46:19.639
because I could see so far.
But from the time I saw what I

597
00:46:19.679 --> 00:46:24.039
saw, it had crossed the road
in the other side. Before we passed

598
00:46:24.039 --> 00:46:29.239
it. So anyway, I didn't
see this thing come over the fence,

599
00:46:29.400 --> 00:46:35.760
but whatever it was had to come
over that fence within just a few strides

600
00:46:36.199 --> 00:46:42.199
of that thirty or so feet of
grass, and then across two lanes of

601
00:46:42.400 --> 00:46:47.840
the highway. And then uh,
there were this area. They were mile

602
00:46:47.920 --> 00:46:53.000
markers on both sides of the highway
and they had mile markers in h I

603
00:46:53.000 --> 00:46:59.320
think tents, and they were on
either wooden post or I can't remember,

604
00:46:59.360 --> 00:47:00.880
but it was. He said,
he was say, like, my marker,

605
00:47:01.320 --> 00:47:04.320
Uh, just for instance, I
don't know what my marker was,

606
00:47:04.360 --> 00:47:07.880
we'll say my marker two point four
and uh, and it was on I

607
00:47:07.920 --> 00:47:10.280
think it was on like a four
or four post, right next to the

608
00:47:10.320 --> 00:47:16.679
concrete four and a half foot concrete
divider. And this thing put its hand

609
00:47:16.760 --> 00:47:22.679
on that sign coast and threw itself
over that four and a half foot concrete

610
00:47:22.679 --> 00:47:25.960
divider and ran across the highway.
And then I did see it leap over

611
00:47:27.159 --> 00:47:31.960
the sense on the other side,
and and me and this guy were side

612
00:47:31.960 --> 00:47:37.000
by side, and I looked over
him. His eyes bass was big around

613
00:47:37.000 --> 00:47:40.920
the saucerers and mine was too,
and I just hit the shoulder and I

614
00:47:40.960 --> 00:47:45.119
at the shoulder started slowing down,
and he pulled over in front of me

615
00:47:45.719 --> 00:47:49.320
and got out and said, did
you see that damn thing? And I

616
00:47:49.360 --> 00:47:51.519
said, yes, I did.
And I'm going to tell you what,

617
00:47:51.599 --> 00:47:59.519
Jeremiah. It was either a really
really really tall guy in a gilly suit

618
00:48:00.440 --> 00:48:05.039
that was very athletic, that could
scale that that six foot fence, and

619
00:48:05.079 --> 00:48:09.000
that could throw himself over that that
median. And I'm telling you he ran

620
00:48:09.239 --> 00:48:15.079
thirty feet from the from the fence
on my side two lanes, jumped over

621
00:48:15.119 --> 00:48:19.800
that median, and then ran two
lanes and thirty feet or so and leapt

622
00:48:19.840 --> 00:48:24.039
over that fence on the side,
very very very agile, athletic, you

623
00:48:24.079 --> 00:48:28.639
know, seven and a half eight
foot tall guy in a gillie suit.

624
00:48:29.000 --> 00:48:31.599
Or it was a sashquash And that's
all there is to it. And me

625
00:48:31.639 --> 00:48:37.559
and that guy exchanged numbers, and
we talked several times over the years,

626
00:48:37.679 --> 00:48:44.280
and I tried to call him.
I actually I tried to taste him back

627
00:48:44.360 --> 00:48:47.760
last year when you and I spoke. And apparently his numbers has changed or

628
00:48:47.960 --> 00:48:53.519
he could possibly be deceased, because
he was possibly ten, ten or twelve,

629
00:48:53.880 --> 00:48:57.440
at least at least ten years older
than I was, because he told

630
00:48:57.440 --> 00:49:01.239
me he'd been driving for thirty five
years. But anyway, that was that

631
00:49:01.480 --> 00:49:09.559
was a absolutely jaw dropping Uh Okay, this is definitely something. There's something

632
00:49:09.599 --> 00:49:15.280
going on here in my brain happening. I mean, that's such an interesting

633
00:49:15.360 --> 00:49:19.920
encounter. And if you look at
it on the map, there are multiple

634
00:49:20.840 --> 00:49:25.519
sightings in that area between Brinkley and
the Forest City, I mean, especially

635
00:49:25.599 --> 00:49:31.360
around I never even looked at that. I went from Palestine. Yeah,

636
00:49:31.599 --> 00:49:35.719
I never I have. I wish
I had, I should have. I

637
00:49:35.800 --> 00:49:38.119
never even thought about looking at the
map there. I always look around where

638
00:49:38.119 --> 00:49:43.280
I live. I never even thought
about looking at it. I mean it's

639
00:49:43.360 --> 00:49:45.400
it's lit up pretty good in that
area, so I mean, yeah,

640
00:49:45.519 --> 00:49:49.039
definitely definitely check it out. But
did you get a good look at the

641
00:49:49.079 --> 00:49:54.320
face of the creature at all?
No, he was running he I mean,

642
00:49:54.360 --> 00:50:00.480
it ran a straight line, wasn't
those zig zagon wasn't a a straight

643
00:50:00.599 --> 00:50:02.639
line one fence to the other.
And like I said, I didn't see

644
00:50:02.679 --> 00:50:06.880
him come over the fence on my
side, but I seen him at by

645
00:50:06.920 --> 00:50:08.400
the edge of the fence, so
he had to jump over that fence.

646
00:50:08.639 --> 00:50:12.119
If he jumped over the other,
and he jumped over this one. But

647
00:50:12.280 --> 00:50:15.760
all I saw was the side of
view. And I'm gonna be honest here,

648
00:50:16.320 --> 00:50:20.679
I've seen ThEC Guilly suit, a
real one, and this thing that

649
00:50:21.000 --> 00:50:24.360
they're very long and stringing, and
this was not like that. This thing

650
00:50:24.480 --> 00:50:29.679
was covered in hair, and it
was I would say, probably no longer

651
00:50:29.719 --> 00:50:37.599
than four inches in its longest point. And you say it's it did look

652
00:50:37.639 --> 00:50:42.239
like it didn't have a neck,
but it was so muscular, and I

653
00:50:42.239 --> 00:50:45.159
could see, I could see the
muscles, just like the Patty film.

654
00:50:45.519 --> 00:50:49.480
I could see. I mean,
it was in my headlights by the time,

655
00:50:49.880 --> 00:50:52.880
by the time he got in front
of the truck next to us,

656
00:50:53.360 --> 00:50:58.559
within the headlight view. Uh,
he was in our headlights. And and

657
00:50:58.599 --> 00:51:01.679
he jumped over that media and so
past them of the two lanes and across

658
00:51:01.719 --> 00:51:05.360
and over the fence on the other
side. He was gone. I mean

659
00:51:05.400 --> 00:51:07.559
he was moving. I couldn't tell
you what speed, but we were doing.

660
00:51:07.840 --> 00:51:10.559
My truck wouldn't go any faster than
seventy four miles an hour, and

661
00:51:10.599 --> 00:51:14.920
I was and we were going downhill, so I was probably going faster than

662
00:51:14.920 --> 00:51:20.000
that. So it it made no
work at all of jumping those fences,

663
00:51:20.079 --> 00:51:22.639
crossing those four lanes and jumping the
other fence. It didn't take any any

664
00:51:22.679 --> 00:51:27.440
time at all. And I just
wish I had had dash cam. I

665
00:51:27.440 --> 00:51:29.880
don't even know if they had dash
cam at the time, but I'll tell

666
00:51:29.880 --> 00:51:34.519
you what I have dash can now, and because I'm I'm not going to

667
00:51:35.000 --> 00:51:38.880
miss out on something that comes in
front of me. Did you notice anything

668
00:51:38.880 --> 00:51:44.320
about the arms at all? The
arms were in like a bent running move,

669
00:51:44.480 --> 00:51:47.239
like like you and I would run, you know, bent, But

670
00:51:47.280 --> 00:51:51.760
they were moving back and forth,
right and left. They weren't. They

671
00:51:51.800 --> 00:51:53.159
weren't hanging down. I couldn't.
I'm not going to say they were hanging

672
00:51:53.199 --> 00:51:57.360
down below with knees right that crap, because they were. I couldn't.

673
00:51:58.360 --> 00:52:01.400
It was running so uh, but
they were. They were huge, for

674
00:52:01.480 --> 00:52:06.920
sure, and they were they were
very huge. And I did see I

675
00:52:06.960 --> 00:52:12.719
did see his hands. I never
ever really thought about seeing his feet or

676
00:52:12.840 --> 00:52:20.239
looking at his feet because I was
so I was so dang flabbergasted at what

677
00:52:20.280 --> 00:52:22.519
we saw, you know, I
mean, I dropped him. I was.

678
00:52:22.719 --> 00:52:25.119
I was. My truck was automatics. I didn't have to worry about

679
00:52:25.159 --> 00:52:30.159
jamming any gears or anything, so
I had one hand on the stairingwheel and

680
00:52:30.440 --> 00:52:32.079
my left hand on the stairing wheel, right hand on on the mic that

681
00:52:32.199 --> 00:52:36.440
was hanging down from the spring,
and chip chatting with this guy, and

682
00:52:36.480 --> 00:52:39.599
all of a sudden I saw it
first and I dropped the mic. Of

683
00:52:39.599 --> 00:52:44.920
course, the spring caught it,
and uh, I was looking and and

684
00:52:44.960 --> 00:52:47.840
the guy told me he saw me
drop the mic, and he thought he

685
00:52:47.880 --> 00:52:52.000
thought, maybe I saw a deer
right now, and he started breaking,

686
00:52:52.320 --> 00:52:55.639
then looked straight ahead, and then
he saw it. And by the time

687
00:52:55.679 --> 00:53:00.039
he saw it, it was in
front of him and jumping over the me

688
00:53:00.639 --> 00:53:02.559
and then watched it, you know, across the other side than through the

689
00:53:02.639 --> 00:53:07.239
through the grass. But we we
didn't, we never uh uh. He

690
00:53:07.440 --> 00:53:12.400
was over the other fence before we
passed the location, so we had a

691
00:53:12.400 --> 00:53:16.079
hell of a good look at him
in the in the full moon. It

692
00:53:16.159 --> 00:53:20.679
wasn't I guess it might have been
a three quarter moon. But it was

693
00:53:20.840 --> 00:53:24.360
bright out there because uh, there
was there was, like I said,

694
00:53:24.400 --> 00:53:29.000
no ambient light from any towns at
all. There's nothing. It's just nothing

695
00:53:29.320 --> 00:53:36.000
out there. Did you notice any
particular color that would show up like that.

696
00:53:36.079 --> 00:53:43.800
I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say
rusty Cinnamon Brown what I saw,

697
00:53:44.280 --> 00:53:47.199
uh, And I got a better
look in his headlights than I did mine

698
00:53:47.519 --> 00:53:53.000
because I was so dictom surprised.
I wasn't taking account of what I was

699
00:53:53.039 --> 00:53:59.880
seeing, uh, you know,
mentally, uh, breaking down what I

700
00:54:00.119 --> 00:54:02.920
was seeing until his headlights hit it, and I was like, oh my

701
00:54:04.079 --> 00:54:07.760
god, that's a dad comes sasquashed. And then I saw I'm gonna say,

702
00:54:07.800 --> 00:54:15.800
Simonie Brown, and I would say
full grown, seven and a half

703
00:54:15.840 --> 00:54:22.000
eight foot by the way that he
I mean, no effort at all jumping

704
00:54:22.039 --> 00:54:28.400
over that median. And then this
thing grabbed the top rail of this fence

705
00:54:29.000 --> 00:54:35.039
with its left arm and threw itself
over the fence with his entire body over

706
00:54:35.119 --> 00:54:38.079
the fence with its left arm,
with just the power of his left arm.

707
00:54:38.440 --> 00:54:42.639
And I guess he jumped at the
same time. But I don't know

708
00:54:42.679 --> 00:54:45.920
too many, too many people that
can do that. Even in my most

709
00:54:45.000 --> 00:54:51.639
most athletic abilities, and I was. I played football, I played tennis.

710
00:54:51.920 --> 00:54:57.639
I was a cave and rescue person
up until I was in my late

711
00:54:57.679 --> 00:55:02.599
twenties, played adult league football.
Hall I ran when I was in school,

712
00:55:02.920 --> 00:55:07.760
junior high and high school. I
ran cross country tracks at east Lake

713
00:55:07.840 --> 00:55:13.559
Elementary and Ooduwa High School. So
I was fairly athletic and and and I

714
00:55:13.719 --> 00:55:17.400
was a student of kung fu Pow
kung fu. I'm pretty athletic, and

715
00:55:19.360 --> 00:55:24.880
it had an ability of agility,
but never anything like that. Did you

716
00:55:24.920 --> 00:55:31.480
get the feeling that it was chasing
something or running away from something, or

717
00:55:31.519 --> 00:55:36.760
maybe a mixture or something in between. I just kind of felt like he

718
00:55:36.800 --> 00:55:39.360
was trying to get across the road
and he had had somewhere to go.

719
00:55:39.880 --> 00:55:45.440
And uh, looking at that area
where we were and looking at my notes,

720
00:55:45.920 --> 00:55:51.559
there was I can't don't remember if
the next day it was Palestine or

721
00:55:51.559 --> 00:55:55.679
if we had just passed Palestine.
And but looking at my notes, there

722
00:55:55.719 --> 00:56:01.159
are a series of ponds or lakes
on the left side if I'm going if

723
00:56:01.159 --> 00:56:07.000
I'm going east on forty, there
was a series of ponds and lakes on

724
00:56:07.079 --> 00:56:13.079
the left side past the woods over
there. I figured he was probably going

725
00:56:13.480 --> 00:56:19.360
to one of those lakes for water
or for food or something. Was my

726
00:56:19.679 --> 00:56:22.000
was my thoughts at the time.
I mean, if you look at the

727
00:56:22.039 --> 00:56:28.719
map, uh, that area lines
up exactly where uh. I mean,

728
00:56:29.880 --> 00:56:35.119
these other sightings were seen over the
years, almost like they're like following the

729
00:56:35.320 --> 00:56:43.679
forest quarter up and over the way
that butts up against if you go I'm

730
00:56:43.719 --> 00:56:49.639
assuming there's private land between the right
of way. Then if you if you

731
00:56:49.719 --> 00:56:55.199
go further, if you go further
northwest, looking at Google Earth, you'll

732
00:56:55.199 --> 00:57:01.280
see there's there's wildlife management that butts
up right against it, many many acres.

733
00:57:01.400 --> 00:57:06.599
And I'm telling you, I'm the
notes i'm reading from that I was

734
00:57:06.679 --> 00:57:09.079
looking at while I was telling you
my story. These are notes that I

735
00:57:09.159 --> 00:57:13.519
made. I'm looking at it right
now. I made these notes on the

736
00:57:13.639 --> 00:57:19.239
nineteenth day of August twenty fifteen,
and I went to Google Earth then,

737
00:57:19.800 --> 00:57:22.880
and then I went to Google Earth
today, and I had screenshots of Google

738
00:57:22.920 --> 00:57:28.480
Earths then and Google today, and
they're a heck of a lot better today

739
00:57:28.519 --> 00:57:32.679
than they were then. But there
are a series of huge lakes, huge

740
00:57:32.760 --> 00:57:37.280
laces, and on the left side
of where he was headed, So that's

741
00:57:37.280 --> 00:57:42.159
where I think he was going.
He was going for water, because I

742
00:57:42.239 --> 00:57:45.559
don't remember seeing I seem like I
remember seeing a couple of creeks on the

743
00:57:45.639 --> 00:57:50.760
right side of the road, but
not a series of ponds or at least

744
00:57:50.840 --> 00:57:57.599
large enough, at least as large
as those were on the other side of

745
00:57:57.639 --> 00:58:04.440
the interstate. I'm looking up.
If you go further north from there,

746
00:58:04.519 --> 00:58:12.400
there is a Pine Tree Wildlife Management
area up there. I'm looking up on

747
00:58:12.800 --> 00:58:15.840
X, which is not a sponsor, but if you guys are listening,

748
00:58:15.960 --> 00:58:22.199
you know you can reach out at
any time. Yeah. On X is

749
00:58:22.199 --> 00:58:27.320
a great tool tease too if you
have it. But yeah, there's definitely

750
00:58:28.119 --> 00:58:31.679
stuff for them to go to in
that area. So man, I like

751
00:58:31.760 --> 00:58:36.079
that one. That was a good
one. Dude, that's a great account.

752
00:58:37.440 --> 00:58:42.280
I'm still I'm still looking. I
plan on going this summer back to

753
00:58:42.360 --> 00:58:46.400
the Crawford Pigeon Mountain. The funny
thing about it is is you could name

754
00:58:46.440 --> 00:58:51.880
a mountain whatever you want, but
Pigeon Mountain is part of It's a leg

755
00:58:52.000 --> 00:58:55.039
that comes off of a lookout mountain. The lookout mountain is like two thousand

756
00:58:55.119 --> 00:58:59.199
or something feet above sea level.
Of course, we're that's the very edge

757
00:58:59.199 --> 00:59:01.920
of the Cumberland I told where I
live, so I think it's only like

758
00:59:02.000 --> 00:59:07.480
eleven hundred feet from the base of
the mountain to the top. And I'm

759
00:59:07.760 --> 00:59:14.039
I'm also a metal uh, metal
detector enthusiasts, and myself and my kids

760
00:59:14.039 --> 00:59:16.559
were metal detecting up up on the
mountain at one time, and I had

761
00:59:16.559 --> 00:59:20.960
to go to the bathroom and believe
myself. And I was with two of

762
00:59:21.000 --> 00:59:24.159
my daughters. So I stepped off
way away and I found a little little

763
00:59:24.880 --> 00:59:30.920
wet weather stream which was dry at
the time, and I began to you

764
00:59:30.960 --> 00:59:34.719
know, the ppe, and uh, all of a sudden, I see

765
00:59:34.760 --> 00:59:39.679
something shining. And I'm also a
Indian arrowhead collector, and I've got thousands

766
00:59:39.679 --> 00:59:46.519
of arrowheads. And what I thought
was flint that by my pea was was

767
00:59:47.519 --> 00:59:52.599
boring away at the soil. It
was flint. So when I get done,

768
00:59:52.599 --> 00:59:58.079
we're leaving myself, I take my
water bottle and rent renseless thing off

769
00:59:58.519 --> 01:00:04.440
and it's a master Don tooths and
I've got a picture of it. It's

770
01:00:04.480 --> 01:00:07.840
it's it's bigger than the palm of
my hand. And I got a great

771
01:00:07.840 --> 01:00:13.159
big hand. So that that part
of the world was underwater at one time,

772
01:00:13.480 --> 01:00:16.199
and there were masto dons that lived
there, so for there to be

773
01:00:16.239 --> 01:00:20.880
a tooth there. And I found
all kinds of sea urchins and fossils and

774
01:00:20.920 --> 01:00:24.719
stuff up up in the area.
But it's a great area, and we've

775
01:00:24.800 --> 01:00:30.119
done a lot of a lot of
exploring and I can't hike like I used

776
01:00:30.119 --> 01:00:37.280
to could because of my right foot
doesn't have my achilles tendon got it's your

777
01:00:37.280 --> 01:00:40.320
achilles tendon is attached to your heels, and mine broke loose and they actually

778
01:00:40.440 --> 01:00:44.920
fused it to the back of my
ankle, so my pivot point is off,

779
01:00:45.320 --> 01:00:51.800
so I can't. I can't walk
around on uneven topography very well without

780
01:00:51.840 --> 01:00:57.920
a walking stick or at all,
depending upon the elevation, So I'm limited

781
01:00:57.960 --> 01:01:00.920
to what I can do. But
we're are still looking around and listening and

782
01:01:00.960 --> 01:01:06.159
seeing things and and hearing stuff.
We have all kinds of stuff happening around

783
01:01:06.199 --> 01:01:12.960
our house, and where we live
is wooded and uh sparsely populated, so

784
01:01:13.239 --> 01:01:17.119
I'm still looking. It sounds like
the area you're in, uh, without

785
01:01:17.119 --> 01:01:22.960
a doubt, there's some some definite
big foot activity there. Have you ever

786
01:01:22.079 --> 01:01:28.679
talked to like you're you're anyone else
in the area about if they've had experiences

787
01:01:28.840 --> 01:01:35.079
as well or well? I talked
to my uncle, my mother's youngest brother,

788
01:01:35.280 --> 01:01:38.599
and he had He's he's the guy
that got me in on air ahead

789
01:01:38.639 --> 01:01:44.719
huntings and taught me how to do
it, and he's had experiences. He's

790
01:01:44.760 --> 01:01:47.320
never saw anything, but he had
been paste in the woods by something,

791
01:01:47.880 --> 01:01:54.280
and uh, whatever it was was
very very large, and he never he

792
01:01:54.599 --> 01:01:58.760
said he knew it wasn't a bear. And the bearer we have around here,

793
01:01:59.159 --> 01:02:02.840
uh they're not I mean, a
bear around here can kill you,

794
01:02:04.239 --> 01:02:07.320
but for the most part, you
don't have interactions with them like that around

795
01:02:07.360 --> 01:02:10.239
here. But he knew it wasn't
a bear, and he knew it wasn't

796
01:02:10.280 --> 01:02:15.360
a person because he had shouted out. And most of us around here carry

797
01:02:15.440 --> 01:02:20.960
firearms with us because there's dangerous in
the woods. So there's people that live

798
01:02:21.000 --> 01:02:22.639
out there that's not supposed to be. There's fugitives we'll live out there.

799
01:02:22.800 --> 01:02:27.480
There's people that have pot grows and
stuff like that, and you just have

800
01:02:27.559 --> 01:02:30.000
to have you need to have a
firearm. And we never went into the

801
01:02:30.000 --> 01:02:34.800
woods without a firearm. Even when
I was a kid, we had high

802
01:02:34.800 --> 01:02:40.440
powered pellet rifles and knives that our
parents made sure we kept with us.

803
01:02:40.519 --> 01:02:45.039
And when I was walking through the
woods, even on the outskirts of Chattanooga

804
01:02:45.679 --> 01:02:50.239
up in the woods Woodland area,
I had a pump pellet rifle that was

805
01:02:50.280 --> 01:02:53.639
as strong as a twenty two that
was loaded and pumped and coughed and I

806
01:02:53.679 --> 01:02:59.320
had a big knife on my hips
and so just for protection, and all

807
01:02:59.360 --> 01:03:02.320
of us did so it's it's not
a it's not a strange thing for us

808
01:03:02.400 --> 01:03:07.880
to do that. But anyway,
he said he he knew that he was

809
01:03:07.920 --> 01:03:13.719
being paid by something, and he
told me that he he is. He's

810
01:03:15.039 --> 01:03:17.840
kind of fell short of saying it
was a sasquatch, but he said,

811
01:03:19.559 --> 01:03:22.599
I don't think it was a person, but whatever it was was walking on

812
01:03:22.639 --> 01:03:25.400
two feet. You know that That's
as far as he would go. But

813
01:03:25.719 --> 01:03:30.840
I've had numerous friends that once I
opened up to them about things that I've

814
01:03:30.880 --> 01:03:35.599
seen, because I'm not ashamed.
I'll just tell you I'm not ashamed at

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all. I don't think I don't
think a person should be ashamed or embarrassed

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to tell something that they saw or
heard that there could be explanations, and

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but there's sometimes there's not explanations.
So tell what you're see in here and

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be stand up for yourself and say, you know what, I'm not crazy.

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You know, the government, the
TV, the news, everybody wants

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to try to make you look like
you're ignorant or una, you cater to

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whatever. But if you see what
you see and you hear what you hear

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and stand up for I love that. Oh man, that's that's one of

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the best ways I've heard that said
so far. Mark, that that is

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amazing. You know, uh,
how do you feel about maybe sticking around

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a little bit longer. I know
in the past we talked about this soft

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off show, but you've seen some
other weird stuff. You had a you

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grew up in a house that had
some issues going on, maybe even haunted.

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And how do you feel about maybe
sticking around? And I'm chatting about

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that for the members show a little
bit. I'm good. I don't I

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don't have to report back for the
one pm tomorrow, so I'm good.

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All right. Special thanks again to
Mark for coming on the podcast and sharing

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his encounters. But before we go, here's a teaser clip about his special

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Strange Days after show for today's episode. It's an extra hour or of extra

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stories from Mark. And you can
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tier, Here we go. My
sister was born in seventy six, I

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was eight years older than her.
By the time she turned about twelve or

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thirteen, the things that were happening
at our house kind of turned to dark.

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And my father used to wear a
starling silver necklace with a starling silver

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Keltic cross I've got it own right
now. And one night he woke up

842
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in the middle of sleep and said
that someone was on top of him choking,

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and he grabbed his cross and was
craying, and all of a sudden,

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whatever this thing was on top of
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thanks for listening. Her and I
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our stories. Maybe there's somebody else
out there listening it's too afraid to tell

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their story. Maybe this will give
them the courage to come out. And

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I feel so bad about it.
Who cares what anybody thinks. I know

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what I saw, I know what's
out there. That's all I care about.

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Please let people know, Please let
them know. If you ever see

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one of these things, you need
to tell because if you don't, then

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shame on you, you know,
shame on you.