Top 10 Bigfoot Episode of 2023!

0:00 Either you're listening to the Big Fat Society podcast and I'm Jeremiah Bron. Every week I talk to individuals who have experienced Sasquatch in some way or another, so you won't want to miss an episode. Make sure you're subscribed on the platform that you're listening to, and share this episode where the friend does not cost a thing, and it helps the show continue to grow. If you'd like to hear Bigfoot Society episodes early in ad free, you can do so by becoming a Patreon supporter or a YouTube channel member. Links to those are in the show notes in Bigfoot Society. I've taken far too much of your time so far, so let's get on with the show. Welcome to a special year end twenty twenty three wrap up episode where I went through all the episodes that we released this year and looked at what were the top listen to episodes according to the numbers the audio podcast. I've then gone ahead and went through all of those episodes and picked out my favorite bits from those particular episodes.

1:10 You may find some in this episode that you've never heard before, so you can go into the show notes, check out the links, and then listen to that episode you may have missed. If you don't agree with these top ten and you think your episode that you liked was a little bit better, go ahead put that in the comments. We can get a conversation going. But going by the download numbers from the audio podcast version, here's what we got coming in. At number ten, Beans Baxter shares about the infamous village of Port Lock, Alaska, in the intense Bigfoot attachs associated with its history. So port Lock was a little fishing village. It's in Port Chatham.

1:56 As you leave the harbor here and head out into Catchmac Bay and turned the corner into the real ocean and then head down about forty miles or so when you get to the very tip of the peninsula, there's a little bay in there called Port Chatham, and inside Port Chatham is Portlock. A lot of people think that there was two towns. There was a town called Port Chatham and a town called port Lock. Port Chatham's the bay and port Lock's the town. And I actually had that clarified by someone who lived in Port Lock, who grew up there, so there's no confusion to that. I still hear people say that every once in a while, and I'm like, that's not accurate. And so it was just a little fishing village. It had a saw mill, it had the cannery, And what a lot of people don't really realize is back then they didn't have a lot of the regulations that they do now with fishing and stuff like that, and it wasn't really a free for all. But again, it was a little bit like the Wild West. The saw mill built these like fish traps, and that's what they used for catching the salmon in They put them like at the head of the bays and the creeks and stuff, and they would just swim into them.

3:10 And they had the logging operation that fed the saw mill that made the traps, and then they were catching all the fish. So right there, you've got they were taking the trees and they were taking a fish. So that right there might be perceived as a potential threat, a resource threat to any sasquatch that we're living in the area. So you start hearing these stories. I think, I don't have my notes in front of me, but I believe right around nineteen oh eight or something like that was around the first time there was an entry in one of the cannery logs about the guy. The people didn't want to work because there was something in the forest that was like coming into town and bothering the people. And they actually hired some like Pinkerton like guard to like watch the town while so the people would come in and work. I spoke with a gentleman whose grandmother actually worked in the cannery when she was a little girl. I think she said or he told her, and he told me that she was like eight years old or something like that, said she was making thirty cents a day or something like that for working in the cannery. So they didn't have unions or child labors. Yeah, imagine that, you know, wake up you're eight years old and you get woken up and you're like, all right, you're not going to go play today, You're going to go work in the cannery man, and you're getting thirty cents a day. So the town it was growing, it was

4:41 bustling. They were having some good years with the fish, and then nineteen thirty eight you had a prospector go missing. Somebody came in went up into the hills to look for gold. He turned up missing. He had the death of Andrew Camlock, who was out running a logging operation. They found him dead. They said that he was crushed with a piece of logging equipment that was too big for a man to lift or a person to lift. And they blame this thing they called the nanty knock, which is their version of a bigfoot. And I mentioned this in the book, and it's pretty cool because you know, you hear nantonock means bigfoot, and technically they say nantonock means giant hairy thing or big hairy man. And then you also hear it doesn't really translate well, and there's no official translation for it. And that's my favorite definition, is that one is it just doesn't translate well, that we don't understand what it is. They give it a bunch of different abilities, the kushtaka and some of the other native lower creatures. They say it can shape shift, They say it has red eyes. They say it comes when it's foggy, it can come on the mist. They give it some supernatural attributes. And it was a time when people were uncertain and they were scared. They weren't sure what was going on, and eventually, by nineteen fifty the town was abandoned and nobody lived there. Anymore. The postmaster, they said, was the last person to leave. Over time, the

6:15 legend kind of grew and got exacerbated. I know on the internet. I can't believe something got blown out of proportion, it got turned into a bigfoot massacre, which it wasn't. Basically, there was a series of strange and unfortunate events that they attributed to the nant Knock that may have been responsible. But there were also some economic reasons and stuff that led up to the abandonment of the town. But you still have missing people, you still have unexplained deaths, you still have bigfoot signings there. There was a gentleman who said that he saw a bigfoot walking along the beach. He said it was carrying a club. Gentleman, he's passed away now, he'd passed away before I read his account. But I would love to sit down with that gentleman, ask him like, why did you say club? And yeah, stick or log Like why did you say he was carrying a club? But yeah, there's just a lot of bigfoot lore Nantinknock lore in that area, and honestly, it may have had something to do with the town being abandoned and people wanting to leave but personally, I don't think it was the main reason.

7:28 I think it might have been a contributing reason. A lot of times today Jeremiah is with like things. There's no there's not there's a lot of divisiveness. There's not a lot of maybe, Okay, this person believes this, and this person believes that. Maybe that he has a good point and she has a good point. Maybe there's some truth that it's got to be this way or it's got to be that way or nothing. Yeah, And I've heard a lot of people say, oh, there was no Bigfoot masker, then that whole story's bunk. And there's some good stuff in there. There's some good, scary, creepy stuf in the history of Port Chatham, but it's not. It wasn't the Bigfoot massacre that some people make it out to be. You do have the resources being to plete. You know, they were taking the trees, they were catching the fish. If there was like a perfect storm to create an angry Bigfoot, but to create a binging batman Bigfoot, it would have been that time and probably that place because there, I think it's a very good environment for them. Honestly, it's not a hop skip and a jump away from Area A. But it's not beyond the realm of possibility to believe that you could walk to Area A from there.

8:41 It would take you a long time, but it could happen. Oh, it's a lot of the same terrain. There are some like glaciers and stuff you'd probably have to cross over. I'm not going to say human couldn't do it, but it would be very difficult. But it's not beyond the realm of possibility. They're connected by land. It's just a lot of land in between them. There's a documentary that you had. I believe it was you with Stephen Major that had put together about the expedition to go out there as well as people can read your book, but they could also watch it on certain platforms as well. Did you notice anything once you actually got there in person and you set foot in the area, was there anything that stepped out to you that you hadn't really made the connection before you'd been able to go there in person. It was an amazing experience. It was one of those things that I wish I could go back and experience it again for the first time. Yeah, because just stepping off the boat and getting there and then just realizing how wild it is and how thick the forest were walking through there, we're bushwhacking. I couldn't imagine going there today and building a town like it. Just to me, it would just seem And these people they didn't have chainsaws, they didn't have you know, they didn't have heavy equipment, they didn't have four wheelers, they didn't have anything that we would take over

10:11 there with us to help make any kind of endeavor like that easy. And you got to think these people are showing up probably with like axes and rope and just whatever they and they're building houses, and they're clearing trees, and they're they're just making this they're civilizing this place, put in the village here, and I can't imagine doing that today with today's technology. Just how what an undertaking that would be, just how thick it is and how unforgiving the terrain is. And that was one of the things that really struck me. It was just like, man, I can't believe this place was ever a town just as wild as it is. Always a pleasure to talk to Beans about what he's experiencing up there in the great State of Alaska. But let's head on over to number nine next. A lot of people feel different ways about this episode. Number nine. Country is an individual from Oklahoma who approached me with some incredible tales of bigfoot interaction over the years. Here's a snippet of that episode where Country shares an interaction that happened during a deer hunt that was jaw dropping, to say the least. Now I had seen them just you know, one hundred and two hundred yards, just stuff moving through the woods. You know, nothing aggressive and nothing that I would be overly concerned about. We were still taking game, and when we was growing up, you brought game home every time you come in, or you may not got to eat that night some weeks, just depends. It was tight. So

11:43 we was deer hunting. I was sitting on the same fenceline. Matter of fact, it was the very same tree stand. A deer had come down through there, and then another deer, just normal, and then finally the deer I wanted to shoot nice ten point probably one hundred and thirty inch back then and then in the early nineties, it was that was a big deer. Now I think so much, but I was glad to shoot it, and I shot it. I seen it fall seventy five yards down through there. I've seen it chip over, but at about five minutes later I also heard something walk walk where the thing had screamed at. And what there is, let me give you a little better picture. It's a great big bend in the creek, makes a great big white horseshoe in the creek there, and where it starts to swing back, there's probably three and a half acres river cane in there, and there's a big tunnels. I always thought the pigs had done it, because the pigs used it quite a bit too.

12:35 After I got a little older, I learned not to go around the river cane so much. They liked hang out in there in the daytime. So that thing come out of the river cane. I didn't see it, but I could see my dad coming because he heard me shoot. He was four five hundred yards away back on to the other end of the horseshoe there, sitting on another bottle neck. He was walking down through there. He was pushing deer my way, hogs my way. I didn't shoot anything else, and he looked up at me and said, get it. I said, yeah, I think something picked up though he looked at let's come on, we'll just go to the house. No, it's a big deer. We're gonna we're gonna go see if we can't see it anyways, and maybe scare it, maybe they'll drop it. That's and that's not the best idea.

13:16 I was pretty stubborn. I had a rifle in my hand. I thought I was tough. We pursued on several hundred yards turned into about three and a half miles. Once we got into the area, we crossed the big slew that the the water treatment plant had made because the pipe leak real bad. It's they've since destroyed that old Watchman plant and everything, but so it's dried up back in there now a little bit. But once we crossed that, in that main creek that fed it in into it, I knowed where it was going because that's where the coal mines and stuff was at. And we could see it two or three times sevney five yards, one hundred and ten yards, just depending on the brush down through there. It was open along the creek once you got thirty forty yards off the creek where the floodplain didn't clear it out every over time it got up it was much much sticker, and it was traveling the edge of that, so the tracks is pretty easy. Most of the time in that bottom land, I was leaving tracks about three and a half to four inches deep, where me and Dad was only leaving about an eighth of an inch, just barely making marks considerably big.

14:24 That said, men, we shouldn't be going after that's a big track. We gotta do something. I said, bull crap, I said, burne and can't even kill a deer because I said, they've followed him around like crazy. And I said, you know, well, what is what it is. It's just how you live with them. You just don't do nothing. They don't do nothing. Yeah, we're doing something because he done something. We ended up track ended up there and we could hear multiple animals on this slat just below the where this mine was at. I said, I don't know, Dad, that's crazy. He said, man, just he said, don't your gun if you're going to walk up there, he says, and make sure you let them know you're coming. So we haven't even crossed the creek yet and a whistle goes out, so we've already been made. I just said, hey, that's my deer. And I heard it sounded like a herd of elephants standing up and running up up to the deal. But we could see a few of them going through the cedars and the open stuff, but there were several that didn't. So we one ahead and took a couple of steps, and when I did, it stopped over the side, and when it roared, it literally moved the hair on my head and face. It was loud. I said, hey, that's my deer. And it looked at me again and roared, and looked at Dad and seen the gun, and then it really roared, this saying you almost It was almost so much it made you nauseously because of the vibration on the inside of you, if that makes sense to you. It almost turned our

15:58 stomachs. It was that loud. Of course, I'm shaking, I said, if as I am next moved, just suit it in the head Dad, and in course the dad, I don't know whether he heard me or not. I took two steps up and to where I could see up on the flat and I pointed to the deer and it looked at the deer, looked at me, snarled. I looked back at the deer. It's my deer, and I reached to go grab another limb and take a step up in that shot and missed it about an inch and a half. He'd looked at my dad and tapped its head like, damn, that was close. The thing had fear in its eyes. I said mine, I said mine, that's mine. I got to eat too, And it looked at me like it understood what I was wanting. And all I got was a leg.

16:40 It stepped over there with in about two steps. It was probably twelve thirteen yards from him, but two steps or so, themped over, tore the back leg off and slung it right into my chest and set me right back into the creek. That said, take your leg, get your gun, let's go. And we were escorted out from the ridge line. They were making a point to show that to be seen upon that ridge line, and they followed us up to the high line that goes down off in there that we took in and out, and at that point they stopped, and when we went up the hill they turned around and went back down. And after that we it wasn't so much being harassed as it was every time we come to the woods. They were always there. It was you just couldn't get away from. I don't care where you went. They knew you was there. It was crazy. It was, that's it, as long as they're not hurting. Yeah, not the tack. He said, just keep doing your deal. They're just checking you out. And so that's what we did. And Dad said, I had one. That's no. It was the next year, that following February, after they took the deer. I was fishing the slew pond back there, catching channel cat on stink bait, and it was cold, and I don't know, I had probably twenty five thirty catfish. Nobody going to regulated a young man or how many fish he had. And I was just about getting ready to go, and I had another little ole bite there and I picked up the rod. When I picked up the rod, my hand reached out of the brush because the brush was

18:11 just cleared by beavers. It wasn't much a couple of foot wide tops before you stepped into eight to twenty foot tall saplings that were so fit that cottontails couldn't get in it. I never heard nothing, I never saw nothing, I never smelt nothing until the hand touched me on the shoulder and rolled me back, and he just picked my stringer up with two fingers. Mind you, smiled real big and walked off. Crap, that sucks. That's a lot of work. I had a heck of a stringer catfish, so I just I don't know nothing else to do, and start catching fish. That told me to bring fish home. I still had plenty of time. I started catching more fish. I don't know, ten or eleven more catfish, and I went to the house carrying them on sticks. I strung them up.

18:56 That's what I had to use. As I come around to bend in this access road that come off from the old wad trioping plant, there's my stringer hanging up in the tree. I strung up my fish and went on back my rack killing to the house. I told Dad. Dad said, don't tell mom. He said he might probably call shouldn't go catfishing for a while down there. He said they might be tough for him right now, said might just soon take you instead of the catfish. I said. He smiled when he took him, and he was real polite. That said, what do you mean he was plied? He said he only used two fingers and held his pinky yet like he was drinking a cup from an englishman. He said, you're a kidding. I said, nope, I said, he turned around and walk off. I said, And it wasn't the big guy. He says, oh, I said, so, what was it?

19:37 A female? Said no, it was a male that I know for sure, because it was standing right over the top of me pretty much. He said, oh, he smiled. That just he smiled, He said, I said, there's a stringer. He gave me a stringer back by the time I caught my fish and made it around, I told him the story and he just, yeah, from this point on, just start leaving half of everything you take from the woods. So he shoot thirty squirrels, fifteen of it goes to them. And so that's what we started doing, or I started doing. And at this point in time, Dad was He always told me he was jumping the creek, but I think he was taking the hog pellets down there and feeding the thing squatches. I really do it sounds like you got a really good look at the face of the sasquatch multiple times. Can you describe it? Yeah? A lot of you guys get it. A lot of you guys get it so wrong. I've never seen anything that looked even remotely close to a gorilla's. It's a fricking neanderthal, is what it is. That's what it is. It's a neanderthal. I don't care if the bones tell you different. It's a big, giant neanderthal.

20:40 It looks just like a neanderthal. It's a man. There's no it's got a big bald to nose. Some of them are flat. It's ananderthal. That's what it is, just big. That is one of my favorite episodes. The country was just such a fun individual to talk to. And if you think that's a wild story, the episode gets even why, let me know in the comments if I should catch back up with any of these individuals from these different snippets. Let's head on over to the next one. In clip number eight, we talked to a retired police officer about his standoff with a bigfoot at his family cabin during a vacation in northern Michigan. It's one of our most listened to episodes. That maybe because of the audio quality check out the comments on YouTube, but still I love this story. It's an incredible look into what happens during a stressful situation such as a standoff, and when you put bigfoot into the mix, things get even crazier. Enjoy what time of day would you say that was where you went out to the house got rattled. It was about it was about three o'clock, okay, between three and three fifteen, because the where we were, the clearing around the house is about a half acre was cleared, but it was patchy.

22:12 So when that November sun is just about at the top of the trees, it's right about three o'clock on its way down, because by four o'clock it would be that grayish dusk, and then by five o'clock done, you're dark because the sun flowed the trees and you're all in shadow. You might looking straight up, you'd still have you'd still have more a little bit more light that you could see straight above you, but as far as eliminating the area, and about five o'clock you're done. And it's one of those places where other than artificial light from cabins or a flashlight, there is no there's no street lights. It's dark, and unless you've experienced it, especially in those November days where tends to be more overcast in northern Michigan, you can't see you're hand in front of your face. That's how dark it is. It's that that deep, almost paved like dark. I almost felt the vibration in my chest like there was an actual sound hitting a wall. Have you ever been in a very tight quarters, said, like a very small hallway or a basement and been close to a wall and you've spoken loudly and you feel that sound come back at you. Sure, And actually yet it felt like that, except it was a very open area and it felt almost like the

23:44 sound when it hit me was say, an open handed hand just pushing really lightly on my chest, but it was very it was quick, but it was spread out so it was like a big way. But just someone were to give you like an opening handed to push on your chest, and that's what it That's what it felt like. There was a distinct wave to it. And see that agitating for sure. Yeah, But it was one of those things where I've had experiences before in my life, not in the woods, not anything outdoor related, but in professional context where you're hypersensitive and hyper aware of everything that's going on around you because you're in fight or flight.

24:33 You're in what would turn out to be either a dangerous situation with a predatory human, or you're clearing a building. You're just so focused on what is going on, and that's how I was sensing that almost that that sound. So it was outside of what I would consider to be an experience. It's for there, but I've experienced similar feelings other places because that the cabinet is always totally relaxed. Just it was at one place where I could always go and decompress. I could get out to the lake and fish, take a walk in the woods, go after squirrel, whatever I wanted to do.

25:22 And I never ever felt like I needed to be vigilant for two legged predators. There was anything that I wouldn't be able to handle with allowed to get out of here, or throwing a rocke at something. It was just it was a really peaceful place. Work for a city department in Arizona, and so we had good vacation time. I had three weeks every year for five years because it worked so much. Over time, we would get vacation time based on how many hours how much we've worked. And back in those days, I didn't make a lot of money. I made a decent living for the area, but I worked a lot overtime because I had just bought my own I bought a condo, so my own home, and I didn't want to be in a lot of debt, so I worked a lot of overtime, and so that three weeks was my okay driving to Michigan. I'm going to see my maternal grandparents, my dad's going to be my open make will be up, the decompressed from everything time. But I liked that week by myself where I didn't have to talk to anybody if I didn't choose to, unless I drove into town, which I rarely did. I didn't have to.

26:44 Occasionally you might run into someone that was coming up to hunt, but that was pretty rare. Yeah, but yeah, it did. It ruined my vacation. So it's around three three, three thirty in the afternoon, you're headed back, Yeah, yeah, definitely in the three o'clock hour. Yeah, yeah, I went back. I went back into the cabin. As I remember, I started some dinner. I was just but still at the same time, while I'm trying to make dinner, I'm like almost grumbling and cussing to myself. You know, those internal conversations where someone's messing with me in a derber derby dirt that you'll sendbody sam cussing under your breath.

27:26 I just it was just irritable. I don't know any other way to describe it. It was just that it's like when your kids are running wild and you but they're not doing anything wrong, and you want to cuss them out, but you don't because you're a good dad. But you go out in the garage and you cuss to yourself. That's what it felt like. Anyway, I went back in the cabin, started doing some dinner, and I had to go back outside and I had to do some stand up business. You go to the outhouse, you gotta do it, do shit, don't if you gotta. So I go back outside and about halfway between the the I don't know, forty to fifty feet between the back porch and the outhouse, which faces out onto the swampy area that it's not really swamp. It's wet all the time. We really have swamps in Michigan. But you just don't go back there unless you want your boots getting sucked off your feet with that really black, silty mud. But anyway, I I'm going out and from around the unexposed side of the outhouse and a tree. It stepped out, and I don't know why it stepped out. I don't know why it chose to come out and look at But now I'm looking at it like white.

28:48 I'm six four and this thing had to be I had to have a foot on me, maybe a little bit more. And I think my best estimation when I looked at the tree that it was near it was had to be eight feet and I was ten yards away from it, max I was about thirty feet and I even now it's going back into that moment. I'm looking at this thing and tongue tied now just talking about it. And indeed, and it did it again and then just and this time I felt it almost just go through me. That oomp was so powerful and just like a wave that just went right through my body. And all I'm thinking it is just what am I going to do? But then I didn't do anything.

29:40 I just stood there and I'm like, okay, don't don't run, And I think, honestly, that's really what I wanted to do. I was just like, all right, I'm going to run now, like that that calm voice you get in your head where it has that totally stupid, really fast conversation with yourself. And I'm like, I'm gonna run down. No, that's not gonna work, because they can reach out and grab me and it's gonna It was just like I felt like a cartoon moment with myself. So I just looked at it and I and I looked, and it's looking back at me and not there were no whites to its eyes. That was the really weird thing. And it's it's just it, you know, Congo had no neck. Looked like if Arnold Schwarzenegger had a bigger brother who put on another one hundred pounds. It was just it was massive. The massiveness creature I could barely describe. And those the long arms, the legs were like tree stump. The hair on it was even like that fading light eating like almost the tips of it were glistening now like sparkly like you hear people talking about, but just a very natural hairchine that you see on like a like new growth code on your horses, just for the fall, like very well groomed, very well kimped like it worked to keep itself clean. I

31:14 don't know, that's just that seemed that that impression that I got in the moment, but it was huge of it. But the face was very humid that the cheekbones were very pronounced. They had a flatter nose, so it was wider not really not really pronounced coming out from the face. Believe it or not. The episode we just heard is the most listened to episode on the Big Fist Society YouTube channel, so definitely go check it out. Coming up next, we have number seven. Chris is a retired law enforcement official that told of some very interesting things he experienced in the George Washington National Forest in Virginia. Listen as he shares what happened and let me know in the comments what you think it was November. There was musloader in Virginia and I think it was twenty and nineteen. And there is a hunting cabin I go to every year. My several family members and friends we meet and it's several acres surrounded by my understanding, a couple hundred thousand acres of the George Washington National Force in the state of Virginia. It's just really big woods, especially to the east coast, big woods and bordered by even more big woods.

32:32 Is where I'm at is pretty darn close to West Virginia, and West Virginia is pretty much the same way, just National Force after National Force. And this property has been in my family since nineteen seventy and we go up every year and deer hunt. I go up for bo and I try mussliater and rifle, or at least one of them was up there musliver. This year in twenty nineteen, we're getting up to hunt. It's pre dawn. It's a real dark morning, probably an hour before the sun's supposed to come up. I walk out of the cabin, I go down to my side by side to get something out of it, and I'm getting ready to go to my ground blind and I'm looking down. I'm about forty yards from the cabin, and the front porch light is on the cabin, and that's it.

33:22 Other than that, you can't see your hand in front of your face. It's just it's black all around you. And I'm trying to grab something in my side by side without using my light, which was foolish. But while I'm doing that, my buddy is up on the porch bent over putting on his shoes, so you really can't see him, but he is under the light up on the porch, and the rest of them are inside the cabin hadn't come out yet. On the other side of me, I hear, from a reasonable distance away, very heavy footfalls two feet guaranteed. And this terrain is very rocky, with a lot of leaf litter. There's rocks all over the place with leaf litter everywhere. But when I was healthy, if you try and just walk through there with no light or flashlight whatsoever, you're just going to go to the ground. And whatever was moving pretty fast, and it was going like it was going to go past the cabin, but it was angling towards me, getting a little closer because it was at a distance and getting closer and closer, heavier and heavier, and just in that fresh leaf litter just crunch, slam, crunch, bang, just too and it was coming right at me. And I'm frozen, and I'm getting chills telling it right now. I'm frozen, and I wasn't having fun, and not a lot scares me to the point of trying to being dumb about it.

34:50 But that scares me. And I look up and I can't not see my buddy because he's tying his shoes and I'm trying to whisper his name, and the steps are still coming boom boom boom by a people heavy footstalk footfalls right through the hardwoods. And I finally am like, oh, so I flout us whisper I could. He leads up and goes what those steps stop dead in their tracks, and then it's like as fast like but still bipedal heavy footfall running away from me. I almost went right back in the cabin, took off all my stuff and said, nope, I'm not going out.

35:32 And I asked my buddy if he had heard that. He said, no, I was talking about I didn't hear nothing, I said, wright, So I did go out of one onto my ground line. And I'm later on that day and into the evening, I'm talking to some other guys that were out there at the cabin with and I told him what I heard. I said, I can tell you what I heard, I just can't tell you what made it. They're laughing and joking, oh it was a deer, it was a bear. And I'm like, okay, you know. But then one of my family members starts telling me we have our older relatives, the previous generation. They built wooden't homemade ladder stands in certain locations throughout or our property along the National Force, and they've been there for twenty five thirty years, and they're like ratcheted into very large trees, three or four inch heavy, big screws type stuff not coming off, and anybody just meandering through wouldn't have the equipment, you know what I mean. Coincidentally, I'm in the middle of a National force, but I have a batter ouperated stalls all or I've got the ratchets. I need to take this thing off.

36:49 And who wants thirty plus year olds warped three stand that we actually don't even use anymore. But family member says, oh, yeah, I forgot to tell you. I was down in the throw and so area down there. I said, yeah, he said the stand was gone. So what do you mean the stand was gone? He said, the ladder stand's gone. I said, the ladder stand can't be gone unless you went down there and removed it. And why would you do that? He said no. I started looking around for it, and I found it about forty yards away from the tree, ripped into pieces, just shredded, and I'm like, I saw how those things were installed, said what do you think did that? And of course you know where my head went. At this point, my head's there and he's I don't know, bear, I guess. I said, are you serious? You're going to say it was a bear?

37:38 I said, I don't believe. And black bear has the strength to rip a stand completely off a tree. Maybe it does, but I don't see how it's going to do it without hands to go up onto the stand or get high enough and wrap your hands around it. Because he said it was ripped off the tree his words, and then drug and then ripped into pieces and pulled apart. I'm like, what, So that was crazy when he told me that. Of course he said, yeah, it was a bear, and I'm like, are you sure. I'm like, are you really sure it was a bear? I don't know, man, And then the subject was changed. But that also was up at the cabin. So I've had some really crazy things happen to me. Crazy anyway, And again, you've got to be where I'm at in Virginia at the time other than another deer hunter. There's nobody around for a long way. It takes full wheel drive to get in there, and it's just a long way in the middle of nowhere, and if there's any other hunter close by, he's interested in getting the his band just like me. And he's not going to go moving through those woods with no flashlight. It's not going to I would challenge in those areas where I'm at than those areas, know what I'm talking about.

39:00 You're just not going to go barren all through there with nothing, no lights, know nothing. You're in the mountains, rocks all over the place, the leaflet are covering the rocks. You just end up on the ground with a busted nose quick. But I would love to know what these things I'm hearing in the woods are. For sure had some really interesting situations, Chris. If there's listeners that familiar with these areas and they're like, this sounds like something that I experienced too, need to put it in the comments, let us know. But so you've got this mind that has this background of law enforcement, you're I'm going to guess when this stuff is happening to you, You're you're heavily analyzing or what kind of mindset are you in when there's this huge creature it's coming towards you. On how I would handle that.

39:54 To be honest, I have to say that I froze. I'd not like any fear type way, but yeah, I was scared, but I just froze because I did not want it to see me. I knew. It's never one moment in my mind that it was ever a human period. Never. And from that when I hear when I like when I heard that, it's well seconds of quickly trying to go through the process of elimination. That's not a couple of deer trotting my way. That's not a buck pushing the dough my way. That's not a deer at all. That's not anything small that is heavy. That's big. It's breaking branches on the ground, and it's on two feet. That's not a bear. I've had bear come under my tree. Stand you never hear a thing. And then sometimes they sound like a freight trainle in through the woods. I guess it just depends.

40:42 But my experiences with bear in the woods is they're very quiet. That's been my experiences. And this was just as it walking towards me. The process of elimination went pretty quick because it was pretty crystal clear what I was listening to. And then before I knew it. I'm, you know, trying to get my buddy to take and then the thing took off and took off fast, and it didn't go super far before it stopped dead deadness tracks. I should say it was like my mind. It ran heavy on two feet, but it probably didn't go forty five fifty yards and then stopped. It didn't like it was fading away, but I could still hear it clearly.

41:22 And then it just stopped. And no, so after I'm talking to my friend, I was thinking, is it out there watching us right now? Never heard it run away, just get out of my range and then it went quiet. Moving on to number six is an episode that surprised me that it was so well received. But it's a very fun one to listen to. Jerry is a man of many skills. While digging for gold as an amateur gold miner in nineteen ninety two, he experienced some Bigfoot related things that still haunt him to this day. Let's listen then, and just to show you I'm not playing around. This is me at twenty four and that was on Maxwell's Creek on Lake McClure in northern California. I was a member of a about a five or six man team. We were amateur gold miners.

42:15 We spent a lot of time up in the back country because here's the deal. If you want to find gold, you can't pull over and just go pan for it. There's lots of gold out in those mountains, but you've got to go back where nobody's been for at least two three hundred years. At least get back to where people haven't been. And so that's what we did a lot of. And I said all that to say this. I was in a place just east of Culterville. If you look it up on the map, coult Cultureville, very old mining town. I was back in a place called Dogtown. If you look up on a GS USGS quadrangle of the Buckhorn quadrangle, you'll find cat Town right there. It's an old mining settlement. Ruins are still there. But I was up there on my own, as I did a lot. We used to go back and scout places that we could mind actively mind plaster mind High Bank. Now this is probably about seven miles back from culture Bill. It's quite a ways. Once you get to cat Town, you park and you basically start working your way to the backside of Yosemite National Park. And in this area there's a big there's a big canyon right there. The Tuolamie River, which comes out of Yosemite, runs right through that. That's one of the tributaries that feeds Maxwell's Creek.

43:31 And I was back there just We called it dinkin, and that just means go down the creek to see if you find any color. If we find color, if we find really good color, we'll all come back and work that area. You have to forgive me, man. So I'm back there now at that time again, about twenty four I'm about one hundred and seventy pounds. That's about a forty five pound rucksack that I always carried with me. So I'm camped out not too far from the canyon. I'm the only one back there. I know this for a fact. The road, the logging road I took in used to be an old mining road. The bond Rop Mine is off that road. It's a dead end canyon road.

44:14 It goes down by Rattlesnake golds and they just dead ends right there. There's only one way in, one way out, and I'm in my tent and I betted down some pine needles where the pine needles look thick, and you can find areas where the pine needles you're just six eight inches thick. I betted down there for the night, had this little old school boy scout style slip into it tent, and it's got I don't know what time it was, man, it's got to be probably like two three o'clock in the morning. It's definitely middle of the night. And I'm just gonna say right now, I don't know what it was, okay, but it was clearly on two feet. I know what I sound like at one hundred and seventy plus forty pounds on those pine needles. Whatever, it was way bigger than me.

45:00 It woke me up. Now, the pine needles weren't all dry. It was springtime, so it's very But I know what that sounds like. I know what other things sound like in those woods, and whatever it was, it came in from like the area of the road, and it walked around my tent like three times and I was laying there. I used to have a Cold Pioneer twenty two long rifle, a caliber pistol. That's what I carried with me back in those days. I've had encounters with mountain lions and black bears and shit back there, so I always carried something I could scare them off with. I never carried heavy weapons back then. And I'm laying there with this pistol on my chest and my thumb's on the hammer, and I'm thinking that that zipper moves, I'm gonna fan off five shots.

45:46 It scared the living shit out of me. And the weirdest part of that whole deal as I heard it walk away, and as it cleared the little clearing I was in with the pine needles, it got off into the bush and it was making a little bit more noise. It was very quiet, and it was trying to be quiet, you can tell. But the weird part was it didn't walk like back towards the road, back where civilizations back that way. No, it walks toward the canyon, toward the backside of Yosemite, and that fred I'm trying not to cuss, man. It freaked me the hell out, And at some point I finally fell asleep. As soon as the sun popped over that saddle, I was like, I'm out of here, and now here's the deal. Man. Bigfoots a guy in a monkey suit. That's what I was told. That's what I knew Bob Hoeronymous and the whole deal. And yeah, so back then as a recreational gold miner, I'm thinking, this has got to be a claim jumper.

46:47 It's got to be a tweak or something. It's got to be something. It scared me enough that'd be like going through my twenty four year old mind. I'm like, who the hell is out here at this hour of the morning walking around my tent and then walking that way. That's nuts. I never could figure that out, and over time, so I packed up that morning obviously and got the hell out of there. I told Paul about it, and he was like, Oh, it must have been a claim jumper or something. I'm going, dude, no, this was a big ass claim jumper. If it was a claim jumper, because that shit still goes on back there. There's still plenty of go back in those hills, and there's people that will rob you and there's nothing you can do about it back there. In clip number five, Brian Garvey goes hiking New Hampshire Mountains with his dog Chewi. In this episode, Brian shares the incredibly intense encounters he's had with bigfoot over the years. In that environment, it's not one to miss. We're going to spend two nights, three days at a campsite in Glen New Hampshire. Now Glen New Hampshire is in northern New Hampshire. It's right past the Presidential Range Mount Washington. So first night went great, spent the whole next day at the park. Back to that day, tired, set up the camp you know, have the campfire, go in, and they went to bed early because it was it was a long day. I stayed up till till it was time to go to bed. Do you have to put the campfire out at a certain time, So around ten o'clock I put the campfire out, went to bed. Now for me and still to

48:17 this day, when I hike and do overnights, I can't. I have issues falling asleep in a tent. I just I can't sleep on my back. I am constantly a tosser and a turner. I know, like when I go on these big hikes, I know I'm not going to sleep. I'm just going to toss and turn and I suffer. I'll suffer, but I'll suffer because of my love for the mountains, like I will get up and I'll hike the next morning. So that night I'm just laying in the tent and it was hours hours I was laying there, and I'm almost I'm getting you know, I'm getting mad. I'm getting aggravated because i know the next day, like we have this big drive coming up, like a four hour drive home, and I'm like, i gotta go to sleep now.

49:06 The camp site, like the campground we had it was right on the bend of this of this brook and it was probably like nine ten feet wide where we were the brook, and it was fast flowing water, so you know, it was something you could rock hop across because there were boulders, but it was nothing I didn't want my son to get next to because of the rook, you know, for his age and the way the water was moving. I'm like, you can't go next to this because on the other side it was just wilderness. So we were on the out, like right on the edge of the way the campground ended. So that night I'm just I'm listening. I'm laying there, I'm listening to the water, you know, I'm listening to all the crickets you know, you hear like little mice, you know, the little mice going through the leaves. You know. I'm listening to that, and I'm like, man, I'm like, I have to go to sleep. So I'm just laying there on my back looking up.

50:00 All of a sudden, I hear this impression stop going across the tent. Now. At first, like when I heard it, it scared me. It scared the crap out of me because I'm like, who is this jerk messing with me and my family in the middle of the night. I thought it was you know, I'm thinking it's a person just messing with us, like a drunk camper, messing with me, putting his hand across my tent. So you know how nylon is loud when a tent is loud when you rub against it, And that's what startled me. But I was able to pick up the impression of the hand, probably by the door of the tent. Now, this tent was a big tent. It was like an eight person ten. It's one you could stand up and walk around in.

50:47 So we had all our stuff on one side of the tent. I was in the middle. It was my girlfriend and my son on the end of the tent, so my feet were at the door of the tent. So when I saw the impression above the tent, because I could see, you know, like I could see the digits going across, and I'm like, I go up on my elbows and I'm watching. I'm about to get up. I'm about to get up, and I'm about to open the tent. I'm gonna see who is this jerk messing with me? Who was this jerk trying to scare me in the middle of the night. So as it made it across the tent, I'm going to unzip my my sleeping bag. And as soon as I start to do that, I hear a growl. I hear this, this growl. It was the deepest growl I have ever heard, I have ever heard of my life. It went from a growl, a guttural growl, to a grunt. And when that, when it did that grunt, man, it my ear lobes vibrated like it vibrated my body to where I dropped right back down. I dropped right back down. I put the frigging pillow over my head and I just I was so confused.

52:00 I went from being angry and mad. I wanted to confront this person to be like, after I heard that grunt, I'm like, that's not a person. A person. A person cannot do what I heard. And it was with such ease. It was just it went from a I heard the breath, the breath to the growl to the grunt. So it was just seconds, you know what I mean, It was just seconds, But I was I was so, I was so confused. Just I was confused. I was scared, and I just I just I fell right back down. I put the pillow over my head, and I just I waited. I waited. I was so scared because I didn't know what would do that.

52:50 So my first motion was like I'm gonna turn and I'm gonna look. I'm gonna see if it woke up my girlfriend. And then they are heavy sleepers, they were so asleep. Now people ask me, like, well, it was it loud, And it wasn't alloud. It wasn't a scream. It was just a very deep, guttal growl to a grunt. And it blew my mind that it could vibrate me like that because that's never happened to me before. The closest thing I could compare it to is going to a concert. You get to that front row in front of a speaker, and you got that guy. But I'm on the base and it's rattling through you.

53:31 That's the closest I can I can tell someone what that feels like. And after that happened, like like I told you, I was listening to the crickets. I was listening to all the little animals. After that grunt, after that vibration, it went dead silent, to no crickets. It was dead silent where I couldn't. I couldn't. I didn't want. I couldn't. I couldn't move. And I don't know if I couldn't move from the fear or if it was from that that rattle in my chest, that vibration. It was something that it was. It confused me so much.

54:16 They stayed sound asleep. They were sound asleep. Now after that all happened and it went silent, I just laid there. I laid there and I couldn't move. I just I didn't want to move. I didn't want whatever it was, I didn't want it to know I was up. I didn't want it to come back. I'm thinking of the direction it was going. It was going in the direction, and if it came back, my son was on the end of that tent. I'm thinking about that. This is all running through my head. I'm thinking about I don't want this thing coming back, you know. I'm trying to think of animals, what animal could do that, because that's my first instinct. Bigfoot was not not even in my mind. It was nothing I thought about at the time. It was it was. It wasn't even a thought. I'm like, if this one, there's one in the Pacific Northwest, That's that's what I thought. It was just it was. It blew my mind. It just it blew my mind to where I I didn't feel safe. I didn't feel safe till it started getting light out and I finally was like, like I finally had that sense of relief, Like the birds started chirping, and I finally felt I felt safe. I'm like, whatever animal that was has definitely gone by now, because it's been hours. It was hours. I was laying there and I remember that morning, I was so close to just I was so close

55:51 to saying something to my girlfriend, but I didn't want her to say, oh, it was just a person, because it wasn't a person. A person cannot do what I felt with that vocal. There's no way the effort. It was an effortless grunt and it was the deed. It was so deep. So I remember after that, like I got out. I went outside the tent that morning. Now I'm on no sleep. I'm on no sleep. I didn't know what to look around for. You know, I wasn't sure, but we were rookie campers. You know, my coolers were out, like everything was out. Our marshmallows, our marshmallow sticks didn't touch it. Nothing was touched, nothing was moved. And I was so confused, Like I'm even looking on the ground we were on. It was a hard, gravelly kind of hard dirt, hard gravel. I looked around for like I first thought bear because I couldn't. I hadn't. I couldn't think of any other big animal in New Hampshire that could do what happened. And then I'm really I'm starting to think about it. I'm like this, a bear is not going to stand up on a time legs, run gets poor across my tent right without putting a friggin hole in it with its claws like it baffled me, and I'm like, there's no way he was going to make that vibration, Like I've never heard of a bear doing that, And

57:27 it bothered me the whole ride home. I was just so close to just saying something. I kept it to myself. Now, I kept this to myself for eighteen years. I told nobody. That episode, I believe takes the record for the longest Big for Society episode ever. You'll have to check it out and clip number four. Jim Whitehead, bigfoot researcher from Western Oklahoma, shares about a night encounter that terrified him. Much of the information in Jim's episode has only been shared on the Big for Society podcast, and I really recommend you check this episode out. The most terrifying night of my life. See my old farmhouse. The area I was researching at was less than a half mile from my farmhouse, and I had a good friend of mine that had been staying with me after a nasty divorce and getting back on his feet, and he'd finally moved out. And at the time, I went up to an area that I referred to as the marker area because you go up there, it's like a little isolated pocket of woods connected by streams to bigger chunks of woods. But it's up on the top of the hill, and there's a pond in the hidden spring up there, and you go up there, and there's all kinds of crazy stuff going on with the trees, all kinds of possible structures and whatnot. And I'm pretty skeptical on stick structures.

58:52 But when you find a tree as a green sapling that's been wrapped around another tree and tight in a knot, that's hard to explain. So I went up there, and that place tends to give me the creeps, and went up in there and basically I was checking the markers, looking for footprints, that kind of thing, and it didn't dawn on me. There was no sound, there was no birds, no bugs, nothing was rustling around in the leaves. And it really should have sunk in that That means something was probably there. So I'm in there looking around and I hear a crack, and I turn around and I get this piece of it'd be a good piece of firewood that's probably about maybe a foot and a half long and probably about three four inches thick, come sailing in my direction. Now looking back, it probably didn't intend to hit me. I fell on my butt and it missed, and I thought it was aiming at me, and I started high tailing it out of there, turned around in time to see a big silhouette backing back down the dam at the pond at the entryway to this place.

1:00:15 And I went back to my house, and this is only a half mile away, and my buddy, who was staying out there, showed up to get some stuff and he seen I was pretty spooked, and I told him what happened, and he asked me, what if I wanted him to stay, and I said, nah, you can go back. You got stuff you gotta do. I'll be all right. It wasn't ten fifteen minutes after he left. I actually was talking to some of the other researchers when all of a sudden my dogs went absolutely berserk. They were going nuts, barking, and then they were gone. The dogs left, and I went out there and looked around and I had a rock hit the security light.

1:01:05 Looking back, it dawned on me that these things had waited. They number one, they knew exactly where to find me at because again it's only a half mile away, so they knew where my house was, and then they waited until my buddy left. They waited for me to be alone, and I went back in the house. I was getting all excited. I'm turning off the lights and I've got a night vision scope and I'm running from window to window looking out, and the well house is out by the creek. The pressure switch was malfunctioning and it was making this loud, clicking noise, and through the night vision I see a dark silhouette of what looks like and an ape on all fours come up and it reaches up and grabs the door on the well house and proceeds to pull the door off off. And it was checking out the source of that noise, because it was a really loud noise coming from that presser switch. So I get excited. I'm talking on the forums, and I do want to add we had a the NABRC had a team in eastern Oklahoma up near up near Sallisaw and at that same time I'm talking to them, they're getting rocks thrown at them. Then over in Georgia, we had another expedition going on that night, and the Georgia team had been roared at and I think they got a bluff charge. So all

1:02:37 three of this is happening at the same time, three different locations, and we were we were talking back and forth, and i'm I've got the night vision. I'm looking out the window and I see the little ape looking thing come back, and then there's a second one with it. Then all of a sudden, this huge dark mass follows them, and that well house is about eight feet tall, and whatever was taller, and I am certain it's probably the same one that I saw across the road in two thousand and nine, not a year later, this thing and the people that were act I was actually talking with the head of the group and he heard me go from excited too terrified in one go, because this thing was massive. And they went around there left they and throughout the night they came back several more times, and I got the feeling that it might have been some kind of show of strength or something. Don't quote me on that's pure speculation on my part, but I definitely seem to have got their interest. And when the sun was starting to come up, I hadn't slept. I was basically too worked up to sleep, and I sat down on the couch in the living room, which there's a door in the kitchen which you can see from the living room, and I turned on the TV. I just turned it onto that

1:04:08 background on its I don't know what, didn't know at the time what was on. But you ever have something happen in your brain takes a snapshot that's permanently etched into your brain. That's how I know that Raiders of the Lost Arc was on Cauz. As I'm sitting there, I glanced see movement out the kitchen window in the pre dawn hours, and I looked at the kitchen window and a face pops up in the window looking at me. And I had a loaded shotgun beside me. Right after the big one showed up, I proceeded to load the firearms just in case. And I looked over at the shotgun and then looked at it, and then looked back at the shotgun, and its eyes got about as big a round as saucers. It proceeded to disappear. The following night, I heard all of howls and stuff coming from up in the hills, and we had another researcher was visiting his dad, and he showed up, and I think he thought that I was making the whole thing up and everything. We went up to the marker area and we started to come back down, and I was sitting there thinking that, Okay, I got to do something because this guy thinks I'm full of crap.

1:05:24 So I said, I'll tell you what. We'll go up and look at the markers. You can see those for yourself. And we were went back up in there, and we got met at the tree line by a dark silhouette about six seven feet talk actually it was about seven something because I went back and measured the next day, and it had red eyes shine and it proceeded to duck under a branch and start walking in our direction. And this wasn't a bluff charge. These were almost Jason vorheas Friday the third teen strides. Needless to say, we got out of there real fast. And that researcher, he'd go on to say that he doesn't think he's ever been as close to one as he was that night. But we got out of there. We went back down there to the bottoms, and something else of interest. Parent my mother and her my stepdad had showed up because they had knew that they had talked to me and saw I was scared. I was before and before we had went up there, Rob had played the Ohio House, the Famous House, and my dog started looking around nervously, and my mother actually pointed out to him that we hear that all the time down there, a little we here's a little more higher pitch, but yeah, basically

1:06:55 usually late at night or something, and she thought it was some kind of alarm somebody put up the pastor or something that would go off location. And clip number three I talked to Roger Williams from the Squatch and Holler YouTube channel about a hunting trip that he and his son had in Marshall County, Tennessee. What they experienced there will surprise you. Probably three years ago. My son he has some family in the south end of the even further south than here, and we're not we're we're are twenty five minutes from the Alabama border, so we're you know, and I've heard a lot of stuff come out of North Alabama, northeast, especially in the hills I had hunting in years.

1:07:36 And he was like that, my uncle's gonna let him hunt, and he said you could come too, okay, And it was more or less I went as just to have an experience with him, you know. And I said, look, I won't, you know, I'll carry something a rifle with me. I won't be hunting. I'll just be there and we'll, you know, we'll care walk's with us. And so we had to. It was too before the season, and I'm like, do you know anything about the place? He said, well, not really. I said, we kind of need to go scout a little bit, so and Bigfoot's the farthest thing from my mind. We go up there, we find the water sources, we find the food, we find the fences, the holes and the fences where they travel, and we're just having a big time walking and we're not being that quiet because we're just scouting. And we get to a particular point and I see a tree about five and a half foot up and it's a hardwood because when whatever snapped it, it's splintered. I mean, just like like a high pressure snap, you know. Being me and I've always taught him the question and look for the answers, don't assume.

1:08:51 So I'm looking around and I don't see anything that fell on it. I don't see anything at that time. The top was still there, kind of attached, and I'm looking around. I'm like, you know what I think. I'm thinking that to myself. I'm like, I've seen some of these shows that say this is a marker, could be a marker, and don't go past it. Whatever. Maybe it was less strout and you know those guys. But I really I wasn't thinking bigfoot. I mean, but it was odd, very odd, and no reason for it. Okay, So I had my phone in my pocket, my shirt pocket. I stepped past this tree and this all happened at the same time. So Siri, but I'm scared to say it. She might wake up here on my phone triggered and my voice is the only thing is supposed to trigger that. And Siri said, I don't quite understand. And I looked down in my pocket and I grabbed the phone. Well, as I'm grabbing the phone, about the size of your double fizz, A rock comes over the cedar, up the hill over the cedar. Ticket they're not very high and lands i'm gonna say, twelve to fifteen yards from us. Bounces down and I hear it.

1:10:18 To my right, my son's looking at it. I hear it. I look up, I see the rock slowing down, but it was so much to take in all of a sudden. Now I've got my son out here and we just had a rock thrown at us, and there's nobody out there. And you know, something that throws rock has to have a thumb or two, you know, has to have a hand. So I didn't rap right away what I was doing. I was thinking, what is our best action here? Because you know, any wild animal, you don't want to run, you don't want to trigger response, you know, to get attacked or whatever. So I'm thinking, what's the best thing we need to do with my son. He's so funny. The first thing out of his mouth, he said, are we just going to ignore that we had our rock tossed to us? Like? No, Peyton just calmed down. Just hold on. I'm trying to figure out what we need to do. I said.

1:11:23 So here's what we need to do. We need to walk down the hill backwards, so we're facing whatever this is and don't look up in there. Let's get away and we'll talk about this. And so we went back to the truck and we're like, what just happened? And so we started talking about the marker. I said, the tree it was right there at the tree and he said, what was up with Siri? I said, I have that's never happened before. So my question hearing people talk about infrasound and all this could infrasound trigger Siri because I've had that feeling. You know, I've seen people where they go with the with the line and then measure there for sound and they're like, oh, do you feel anything, and their jittery and whatever, and so that's my first question was like, you know, neither one of us said a word, so that's not supposed to happen. Second on, all, you know, we've got the marker and then we've got the rock toss. The Siri by itself wouldn't have been a big deal. The tree by itself wouldn't have been a big deal, but put together with the rock toss, it became very big deal. And you know, it scared me because but we didn't feel threatened though. That's what we talked about. We didn't feel threatened, and we talked about, you know, should we go back, and we did. We went in before daylight. We had put him up a stand in a few days after that.

1:12:56 I mean, you know where I hunt it's not two hundred to two hundred and fifty yards from that spot where he hunts is over over the ridge. It's not one hundred and fifty yards. And like I said, we've never felt threatened there, and there have been times. One morning I was there, the breeze was blowing. It was from up the hill. I don't know what direction actually that is, but you know, you pay attention to it as a hundred Okay, well we've got the breeze coming this way. I knew that Peyton was good and that I was good anything, you know, up the hill and I'm sitting there, been sitting there for forty five minutes. It hasn't started breaking daylight yet, but it's getting close.

1:13:44 So they're so fresh air, nice morning. I'm close to the spring, a water source, and I'm actually sitting blind on the ground, which I don't like doing that, but I was kind of backed up into a with some trees and stuff, so I felt like I had that spot covered, you know, keep something from walking up on me. Well, I get a whiff of the only thing. Yeah, it did smell like a wet dog, but it had a an element like death decay. No listen decay, wet dog with decay, right, and I perked up. It's behind me and that's where the wind was blowing. It's just a light breeze, maybe three seconds. It was quick. But here's the thing. So you know, I've smelt dead animals, you know, And but when if you do and the wind blowing too, you're gonna keep smelling it. Right.

1:14:51 So I'm like, this thing is moving, whatever this is that's moving, And I got on the walkie and I'm like, pay and I'm not trying to scare you. We've got something coming in between us that stinks like something I've never actually smelled before, and it's moving. I think it's coming to you. What He never got a whiff of it, which is even more strange. And we have smelled this on more than one occasion, and he's got a whiff of it a couple of times, but we've never felt threatened. And he's had some strange things, some sounds. He was by hisself one day and I got a text. You know, I'll check up on him quite a bit because it's in an nowhere and he's twenty five, so he can take care of But you just don't. It's not smart to hunt by yourself. But as long as he checks up with me ever so often, you know, and let me know when you're leaving and all that.

1:15:56 He said, Daddy, I just heard sound like a monkey. He said. It was the build up and then a yet kind of a yale. He said, it wasn't a scream, and it was the direction that came from was over the same direction as the marker and the rock throw, but even further over on the other side of the hill. And he said, at first I thought it was a bull, he said, but on the beginning of it, but as it followed through with it, he said it wasn't. In clip number two, I checked a Robbert who shares about a story he heard from the state of Oklahoma. It's one of my favorite encounter stories that I've ever heard. It is intense. It's a great episode.

1:16:45 Robert shares about things he's encountered in Arkansas and Oklahoma, and the face to face encounters are just fantastic. So make sure that you check out episode with it'll make you think twice about going into the Oklahoma woods. Okay, it's the Washitahs and the Kayne I'm it's actually I'm on the Kayamishi side, Okay, the Kayomie she's run into a Toka okay Atoka Reservoir. Just just north of the Atoka Reservoir, that's North Boggie Creek, and then Boggy Creek runs out through runs out forty three. There all the way back to Sardes Lake, into the other area that I told you about that that was on the other side of this specific area. Wow. So forty three runs through Stringtown out of a Toka. You go through a Toko, you're going south, you take Stringtown over on forty three. Forty three will take you all the way back out the Sardes Lake. So in between forty three and Highway three sits McGee Creek, Okay, and from there to Arkansas. It's just woods men. It's just it's just it's the the Kayamie. She's running into the Washatas. The Washatas run into the Winding Stairs. The winding Stairs run into the Blues. The Blues run into Queen Wilhelmina and then the Poto Mountain range, and then from there it's the Boston's and the Ozarks. All it is is w man. Robert, have you ever heard of I know exactly where

1:18:18 it is. I have a few friends that are interested in this, in this, in this, in this thing. Yeah, I've talked to a few people about this. Yeah, it is. It's very prevalent where I grew up. Okay, it's it's it's hey, that's a bear. We know they're there. There's a bear in that area. Every single person there goes, yeah, there's that's watch out there. You can ask just randomly, ask somebody, but you believe this, ask what as the day. Absolutely, they'll just tell you like, it's not, it's not. It's not a conspiracy theory. I'll tell you that. We're all out of those.

1:19:05 By the way, there are no more conspiracy theories. It's all. It's all out in the open. Okay. And and one of the gentlemen that that he told me a story and we actually just bumped into each other at and we started talking, and he told me a story. He went out and he had a wanted to kill some hobs and he set up on a trail and I'm just gonna tell you this story real quick, okay please, And okay, so he's and this is his story, not mine, And let me tell you I believe this guy one hundred percent. He has no reason to lie. He goes to church on Sunday and Wednesday. I promise you this guy has no reason to lie about this. It freaked him out terribly to the point where he won't go back out there. He will not go back out I will never go hunt out there again. No.

1:19:56 Well, here's his story. He's sitting in his tree stand and the trail comes down off a hill, off the hill and comes down into the gully, and he sees he sees a bunch of hogs coming this way, and he's like, all right, I'm about to get me some and he decides to take something, takes his eye down into the gully. Off to his right, he sees movement, so he starts to look down there, thinking that he's going to see more hogs. He does not. He sees two very large critters on all fours and then they stand up, and then they start moving from tree to tree to tree towards the hogs. Once again, the hogs start coming down the hill, and once again, the biggest one, the one in front, goes back to all fours and takes off immediately on all fours. By the way, not on two feet, on all fours toward the hog. And what happens next is what scared the crap out of him, because it literally it came off of all fours, hit the hog with two hands, breaking its back, grabbed it by the hind legs, swung it over to the tree and smashed his head on the tree and slung it over its shoulder and looked right at him in his tree stand shut up and just walked off. He said that hog was three hundred pounds,

1:21:29 no problem, at least two hundred and fifty to three hundred pounds, he said. He it took two hands to smash that hog, and then he finished it off by swirling it around and smashing his head against the tree. Again. Check that episode out. It is wild. We're down to number one and number one in our listener downloaded episodes of twenty twenty three. This is on the audio podcast side. I'm going to share a clip from an episode I did with William or Bill Morris from Southwest Oregon. Listen along with me as I share what happened when Bill found a sasquatch killed bear. It took me by surprise. Damn sure, it'll take you by surprise as well.

1:22:16 I actually have a sasquatch killed bear sitting out here in my shed. The back legs were tucked up inside of the rib cage. Wait can you repeat that way? I have a sasquatch killed bear. Okay, the neck is run like a wrung out washcloth. The skull and everything's still in there. All the paws were pinched off, at least the front two. The head still encased in the skin, all twisted up, and the back paws were still attached to the skin but not in the body. Yeah. Yeah, it'll blow your MinC said. I said, there's only a couple of people that know about this. Now you all know about it. Well, okay, we'll save explain to me. What so did you find like A?

1:23:12 You found like A? I was. I was on my way back from my visiting my grandchildren, so I took the back roads, and which you know, because I hate taking the freeway. I hate taking the same way as just boring. And uh. I was like, no, you're not going to stop by your area. No you're going by it. No you're not going to stop by Oh yeah you are. You're going to stop by your area and go check on it. So I get up this one area and it's it's the spot between where you turn off on the cutoff road at the base of the area to the spring, and I call it the now I call it their dining room or the kitchen. After I found the bear. But I pulled up there and there's this arch tree that's right there, and that's where I leave my offerings is on that tree. But what I hate to leave there is because it's very visible from the roadway, so anybody could go up and you know, just destroy whatever I've got there.

1:24:05 So I've learned to go to the back of one of the trees close to that and tack like a bag on with some tacks and put fruit in, garlic and tangerines. That's what I left the last time last week. But I took pictures of this when the first day I found it and it had the meat had just there was just a very very minscule layer of meat on the ribs that I could see, and a little bit back on the pelvic area, and you can see the gray because the meat, you know, after about twenty four hours, it's going to turn gray, especially if it's really thin. Any meats that's slept out and it was like the meat had been stripped off just right down just before that tough layer you know that you get in the ribs, you know, the pieces that were always going on and pulling. You know. I don't think it's digestible, but we did anyways, at least tie to it. I'm a carnivore. I'm sorry.

1:25:03 I love it. But it had that gray layer of meat on there. I was like, wow, this is fresh. I didn't know what it was because it's straight down a bank, you know, and it's like, I'm not getting myself hurt going down there. And I was just in there just to check on the area anyhow. But that's what I discovered. So I took pictures of it that very day, so I have those pictures to compare it to when I actually got the carcass. And the cool part is and I think they knew I was going to ask for this bear is through one of the vertebrates of the neck was a stick stuck through the vertebrae. It didn't fall that way because it's like, you know, let me get out here. Hard to get the cameras, it takes a minute. It was like this far through the vertebrae. So if it fell, it shot right through this neckbone. Because it wouldn't go down this way. It had to be stuck through the vertebrae and then another stick and gets what I had at the neck an x and some lot of folks. I got to tell you one thing I really want to express to you and drive home. As an ex does not mean keep out when it comes to Sasquatches. Remember they're very similar to us, but they're not us, and their language is different than ours. But I am finding that all the exes that I find are a welcome sign. They're actually welcome, welcome me you to the area.

1:26:26 They know you're coming. And if you recognize that it was meant for you, it was absolutely meant and put there for you. And so those are the places if you want to go, squatch, and that's where you start, that's where you want to go. But if there was an exit the neck because they already knew I was going to take it, they already knew I was going to ask, and I asked them permission for it, you know, I asked for just like when I took the photographs of the female, I asked permission and I explained, like I needed to. She already knew what they were, knew in a photograph. You can't hide any from them, and don't try. It's not worth it. And I'm armed. They don't mind me being armed, and the reason why is because they know it's not for them, and I have no intention of every firing at them and just piss them off. You know, if you like me getting hit with a babi is like, see now, I'm mad. But I wasn't able to go up to the area for a while, so I came back in seven weeks. Jeremiah, it had not been touched. That does not happen in nature. That's weird, man. That does not happen when a deer or anything. You find a roadkill, go back a week later, tell me what's left of it. Yeah, tell me what's left of it.

1:27:45 Find pieces of it. You might find a few pieces here, maybe a rib bone here, maybe a leg bone over here, but ninety percent of it's going to be gone. The forest tends to clean up after itself. We have the first day. If you're looking at ravens and turkey vultures, they go in, they take whatever they can of any meat and sinews that are left and you know, any cartilages, and they've removed that. And that's what got my attention the second time of going up there and finding the carcasses I came upon and I'm looking at feathers. Turkey vultures were there, and they're kind of I've always been one of my spirit guides because we're the ones that clean up the messes, and that's always kind of been my four days and you know, when it hits the fan, I'm the one that helps make everything okay and figure everything out and stay calm and clear everything up. And so I'm picking up feathers and I look down that carcass is still there and it's untouched. There is not one. The only market that we're on. It was from the Turkey vulture picking at the joints and stuff and pulling some of the sinews up. I have the whole thing intact.

1:28:59 There's been a couple of going to fall off. That's just a little snippet of how wild that episode gets. I'd like to thank AMBLA big for society listeners for listening to the channel, being subscribers, being involved, sharing your stories, allowing me to hear them so that I can share them with the rest of the listeners and it can help them out as well. But before I let you all go, I want to share one a bonus clip. This is a clip from my current favorite episode I've ever recorded. It's Individual from Renier, Oregon, who shares what happened when his family was tormented by sasquatch for four years. If you've never heard this episode, you owe it to yourself to listen immediately after this. Share this episode with a friend who hasn't listened to Big for Society yet. It's a great introduction to a lot of really good episodes. And if you want to hear any of the episodes that go along with these clips, go over to the show notes and I'll have the links to all the episodes by order in the show notes. Okay, that'd be great. Well, we came to Reinier, Oregon from southern California as my dad was a pipefitter. He was hired ont the Trojan Nuclear Plant as it was being built. And I am one of many kids and

1:30:32 boys and girls when I was youngest and dad bought this land and when we first got there, there was we moved into this just horrible single wide trailer until we can get a brand new one there. And right off the bat, some very odd things were occurring. We thought it was just a neighbors coming over, but it wasn't to be blunt. These animals or whatever they are, whatever you choose to call them, they're as real as the vehicles driving down the road. That being said, they had a nasty habit at first of just looking through our windows and scaring mostly all my sisters, all the girls, and my mother, and they would scream and run from the room. And Dad would always run out the door and he wouldn't hardly ever see anything, but he would hear loud footsteps as if you were dragging a engine block through the woods, so to speak. We all started to get pretty good looks at him here and there, and in the daytime and a night time, and it was obvious as we cleaned this single wide up the outside of it that these animals were pounding on this trailer and it was there was just pounded, and we slowly understood what was occurring. I didn't do anything aggressive at first. They were they were just curious of what was going

1:32:05 on. It was obvious to a plowboy that nobody had lived in this trailer for quite some time years possibly we knew that there was four. We knew that there was four because we all seen all four of them at the same time, many times, mostly in the daytime. There was obviously a large annual excuse a cliche. There was a large male, and well, saying large is kind of an understatement. There was a smaller female. She was more boxy, chubby, kind of shaped, and then two younger ones that were almost identical. One was a little brown, one was a little cinnamon red, and they were very almost identical in height. So the mom and dad had to rationalize this. They were lying to us children. They had to become professional liars to their children by saying, oh, these things are just like monkeys. They're monkeys. Because we came from California and we'd often go to the San Diego Zoo, you know, once a year kind of thing. They did not want their children frightened. We thought, okay, they're monkeys, so we wouldn't be afraid. So in time we had a new double wide put in above where we were at and cleared off a bunch

1:33:38 of land, and Dad had hired a company to come in and start cutting down trees that were enormous within themselves. They're you know, the kind of logs you'd only be able to put two or three on a logging cut. And that's when things changed quite a bit. They would just come out and stand there away from the tree line a few feet. They were quite unafraid, all four of them. They would stand most of the time motionless. They had no fear of us whatsoever, at least to us the family. Everybody was hassled. And when I say everybody, I want to let me qualify that the timber followers that Dad hired, they were being hassled and they were being scared off by these things. The people that we bought the land from, a very elderly couple named Belle and al they still lived on the property and old shack. They were being harassed, and so slowly, over months and months things would uptick. So what Dad thought he would do is let people at the time who was working around him. He would let the men live in the single wire that we did stay in there. For one reason, Dad said, I'm not going to charge you any money to stay there, because at the time it was super hard to find a place to

1:35:11 live there. These things were on the property, you'd make a reasonable effort to air them out in any way that you see fit and you're good, and so they did. I was always instructed to stay away from them, and it just got really bad, especially for the girls. For some reason, the male and female, they were just they they couldn't they were It's like their curiosity got the best of them. And the girls, of course would use high pitched voices because we were young, and the girls were just frightened of absolutely everything. My older brother, he was the oldest, and I was the youngest. We were told things a little bit differently that, of course, being this five foot tall pipefitter that resembled Yosemite. Sam also a marine in the Korean War era, was no joke. You didn't mess with this guy, and you're not gonna tell him what to do, you know, but a very decent amount. And he'd look at my brother and I and say, these things are a threat. I don't want you to grab a rifle and go after them, because that's what they probably want.

1:36:27 And we never did. But the men in the trailer start to seek these things out to fulfill their obligation, so to speak, and it just got worse. They kind of I think that was kind of a mistake on Dad's part. This is a span over four years, at least it was for my brother, my dad, and myself. Now after two years, all my sisters, including my mother who is a heart patient, and not to be startled, they had had enough. They're always These were not the girls that we remember when we moved there. There You're never get any sleep. They're always scared. They they changed, and Dad was. Dad was, of course concerned. I'm more than concerned. He was, you know, scared for all the girls. Every once in a while, you know, one of the girls or both of the girls are all four of them for that fact, would run in the house screaming, and that's not good.

1:37:29 And the nerves would be high for a couple of days. But then a few days later something else would happen. The girls would get scared again. So and this went on for a couple of years, and Dad finally sent the girls away to Kenwick, Washington. And the day after Dad had sent the girls away, he got the men from the trailer down there and us two boys and informed everybody the girls are gone. I want these things aired out. You know, all bets are off. It's funny people think just turn on all your lights and they'll go away. That's not exactly true.

1:38:13 They don't care about the light. They don't care because often you would see them in a light like an old farm light in your driveway that you would have, and they'd be standing just a few feet away from it, either staring at the house most of the time, or off at one of the other animals creatures. So that's not you know, people think turn on the lights and they'll go Now they know they're not going to go away. They're not afraid. So they tried a lot of different things to actually lure these animals in, and not a darn thing worked to lure than them. They try to bait them or whatever. They just wanted to get a shot at them. And well, let me describe the animals. The large male.

1:39:01 I remember this boiler maker. He was a boiler maker. And these are all savvy men. He had said. The male was at least ten feet tall and a little under one thousand pounds, and he never qualified how he knew that. But you look at these group of men, they knew that These were old school, very tough, all go, no stop hunting, almost year round kind of men, and the female was probably probably about eight feet tall and a little bit lighter, but just there. It's my opinion that when people go in the shock, they think that they could see when it's no big deal, but they're not ready to see how enormous these creatures, these animals actually are, and that's what stops people in their tracks.

1:39:58 I think it's something inherent in all of us that when we either see something that large that's not supposed to exist, that it scares us to act out or just to shut down and not move. You're at Bigfoot Society. Art goal is to provide a platform for those that have encountered Bigfoot to share their encounter in a safe environment. But we need to hear your story. If you've experienced something that you just can't explain, please send me an email at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com. Then we can start the conversation. And I know a lot of you have not shared your encounter at all. It's been twenty years and it's time that you get this off your chest and then you can get some well deserved for rest. Because I know you haven't been sleeping. I understand what you're going through, and I appreciate every one of you listening