Land of the Missing and Monster Fest with Seth Breedlove

0:00 We're outside the cabin and we could hear kids playing, like what clearly sounds like kids playing, and so there are no houses there, so I'm confused still to this day as to what we were hearing sound like children playing and yelling and stuff like that in the woods. Welcome to big Foot Society. In this episode, we talked to set the Breedlove, Ohio based filmmaker and founder of Small Town Monsters. In this episode, we talk about what happened during the filming of Land of the Missing, the upcoming monster Fest, and new updates to the big Foot project. Find out this and more on this week's episode of the big Foot Society podcast. All Right, Big Society, You've got the privilege of talking with an old friend. I believe I could say old friend. We've chatted for quite a bit. I've done my longest interviews with you, so that's true. We had a two hour one back in the day. I think there's close to three at one point. Mister Seth Breedlove from Small Town Monsters. How's it going today, sir, I'm good. Thank you for talking to me, because I'm just noticing right now you've got so many toys in the background. What's your favorite toy in that

1:32 or sorry, action figure? I should say in that room. No, you can call them toys, according he calls them dolls. Her daughter comes down here to mess with my toys because she likes to dress them and do their hair. That's where I'm at my favorite what do you mean, favorite line or favorite individual toy? If the room was on fire and you had to pick one up and run out with it so it didn't get burned down. Tommy keeps his original Optimus Prime g One in here, and it's so that would have to be the one that I saved. Not that he cares, because he has a much better one that actually has joints that work and stuff. But he has a g One down here that I bought him, so i'd have to say that. But I do like that galactus in the background there, he's three feet tall. That Gen one transformer stuff. Dude.

2:22 Prior to Big Foot Society, I used to be big into thrifting and reselling and all that stuff. That was my jam. You don't mess around with that transformer stuff, dude. That goes for some crazy. That's that's some good investment stuff right there. He goes, we have a toy We're already off the rails. But we have a toy store. We have a toy store that's going to happen. We have a toy store near here called Toys Time Forgot, which if I had time, I would totally take you to when you're up here for the event. But it's one of the most famous vintage way stores in the world. Like toy collectors from Japan and stuff come over here to buy at this place. But I used to do articles on them for the newspaper. And we go in there once a week, usually on Tuesday night, and Tommy will pick out like one or two g one transformers from their case. That's our dream. It's like Al's Toy Barn from Toy Story two, right, yeah, like crazy stuff. Too quick, gotta go around the horn. That's a line from Toy Story two numb Mine. It's like, oh no, no, that's like in the scene where ham is like hitting the control keeps passing it. It goes too quick, gotta go around the horn. For some reason, every week we repeat that while we're playing Fortnite, folks, I just lost half of my audience sets into the Disney picks out there like Let's forget this guy. I'm out

3:52 here, Seth. Let's chat about what's coming up in thirty days. Man, there's something that I am psyched for and I want to make sure that all my listeners know about. Tell me what's going on with monster Fest in small town Monsters. Back in twenty fifteen, we did an event in Minerva called Minerva Monster Day. We did it in twenty fifteen and twenty sixteen. It was a small town festival, very much geared around like Bigfoot. We had Bigfoot speakers and that kind of stuff, and it was also like embracing the whole small town roots of STM. But we were supposed to do an event back in twenty seventeen. I don't know how many people remember this, but we had announced it, we had a poster, we had multiple posters, we had announced Lauren Coleman and Lyon Blackmurton were speaking. We ended up canceling it because the town was just not helping with the event to the extent that I just walked away. But from that point on, I always wanted to do another event like that. It's something that was much more geared around, like the like pop culture cons that I enjoy going to but centered around cryptids. And obviously we have Crypto Coon in Kentucky every year and they're the og. They've been doing it for quite a few I've been at every event they've done. But as much as I love crypticon, I have yet to

5:24 see a true like comic con atmosphere surrounding encryptids. And so that's that was the whole impetus for doing this was like, let's try to like all the way down until we're going to have an artist alley and that kind of thing. Very much is a comic con, but centat around cryptids, and it really is also supposed to play to some of the things that I think are really important to the community and the the growing popularity of the topic, which is podcasts. I've said before like I got into this because of podcasts. I used to do a medical billing job and I just would sit there and listen to podcasts all day. And that's why I'm doing this today. To me, it's always been really important to have podcasters representative this kind of stuff, and typically you guys get left out. I was left out when I did a podcast. I know how this is, but in terms of importance to the growth of this these topics, like you guys are at the top.

6:31 No one else is doing on a weekly basis what you're doing in terms of propagating this subject, and so I wanted to do. I wanted to bring in podcasters, which is why like Astonishing Legends is going to be there, Scott and Forrest and Jim Harold. Jim is like the godfather. He would balk at this, but he's the godfather of cryptic and paranormal podcast to again, I wanted to create an event that I would actually want to go to, and on the record, I don't like going to these events, so I wanted to create an event that I would actually now yeah, And so that's what we're doing. It's such a cool I when I first heard of Monster Fest, I was like, oh man, this is awesome.

7:25 I'm dropping everything and I am getting my ticket to go. And then Seth asked me to come out and do the podcast live, which was even better. So I appreciate that. I want to say that publicly, so listeners, this is just the little plug section for myself if you want to hear probably one of the only times that Big Foot Society will be doing in episode live. It's gonna be at Monster Fest, and if you want to hear it with all the ms and the crazy snaffoos, that's gonna be Monsterfest because I edit those out. I spend hours editing every week. But just to let you know, I will be interviewing someone live. I'll be interviewing Martin Groves about his Land between the Lakes dog Man encounter. It's gonna be awesome.

8:16 Dude. What a rad pickup. That is not what I would have thought of. I've been trying to get Martin for a long time and it finally clicked. I was like, he's going to be a hell Ben Holler's table. I gotta just reach out and snag him. And he's like, yeah, let's do it, man. So I am pumped and I'm going to pick up the vhs. Do you talk about that special edition vhs? You guys are rocking at Monsterfest for us. So I need to clarify somethings. DM has grown to the extent that, like the things that end up happening within the company, a lot of the time, I'm like barely clued into and that VA that's had gone all the way through to the point where it was in production before I was like brought and to have a part in it. Courtney and Jason Judis who's who just came on as like our He's been on for over a month. Jason's been tied Intosty way back to Agoteam but twenty sixteen, but he's like my right hand man at this point, and Courtney obviously is like the one helping spearhead everything from a financial standpoint and keeping us above water at all times. The VHS, we're doing it with a company called Crucial Blast, and they do these small run VHS runs.

9:37 It's basically like a very there's only three hundred copies of this VHS being printed. If you get it at the event, you're probably going to have it. If you don't get it at the event, you might not get it. We're thinking right now we're going to be able to sell some online, but we're only going to have one hundred and fifty and they're selling one hundred and fifty online, So there's only three hundred copies of this going out. But it's a VHS copy of American Werewolves, which if you've seen the movie, is like the perfect way to watch it would be VHS if you actually have a VCR, but even if you don't have a VCR, I've seen a lot of people that are like, why are you selling I have custom VHS of Ready Player one in here, so I like them just to display.

10:22 So we're excited about that. But in addition to the VHS, which comes with like custom artwork on it and stuff, I did an extensive interview that will go inside the VHS, inside this little zine that will also come with the VHS, which has a few articles or say, I think an essay written by the guy who actually is doing this, and then he also interviewed me. So both those things will be part of the VHS. So we're pretty pumped about the VHS. I've said VHS way too much. But listeners, if you don't know a VHS is you just bloke it up. It's like the whole Stranger Things thing and vintaged and like your parents and grandparents all that. It's cool, guys, it's cool. But I am pumped to see that the actual VHS tape. I'm all about it because I'm a kid of the eighties. The cool thing about Monster Fest is it's not just Saturday. What's going on Friday night. Friday Night, we're showing on the Trail of Bigfoot Land of the Missing at the Canton Palace Theater. But I will say we're also doing I just want to mention this now because I might forget because I'm feeling we're gonna end up talking about Land of the Missing.

11:39 So following the Land of the Missing premiere, and by the way, as of right now, we're in the process of signing this movie back over to ten ninety one. There's also a chance we're going to self distribute it. I've been fighting with them for two days, which has been a blast. But the movie is not actually supposed to come out until August, so not only are you seeing a premiere, but you're seeing a premiere like two months before the movie will be allowed. However, Kickstarter backers should be getting Land of the Missing, dog Man Triangle and the Dogman Triangle hardcover. I'm talking like sometime this month, so so that's another part to being kick Starter backer.

12:24 But anyway, the following the premiere, we are going to do Q and A with some of the people that are at the event, which I believe does include you. Correct again, I know it's like, do you want to be up there? And I was like, yeah, let's do it. Yeah. So we're going to do with Q and A with some of the people that are going to be guests at the event, and the Q and A is going to center around general big footery and probably just kirket A zoology in general. I'm sure there's going to be a lot of references to missing people and like that kind of thing. But yeah, the premiere is at the Canton Palace Theater on June second. I think it's a six thirty. I'm not positive about that. I think it's a six thirty camp Palce Theater, which is at one time was the largest screen in northeast Ohio.

13:18 I know for a fact that it is still the largest screen in the city of Canton. So it's a classic movie house. The guy that was the architect of these theaters did fifty of them around the United States, and the Palace is one of the only ones remaining. The one in the one in Canton, it's decorated to look like you're in a Spanish garden. We actually did an episode of On the Trail of Hauntings there because it's also supposedly haunted. We experienced nothing. I don't believe it's haunted personally, but it's a really great place to see a movie. Stars and clouds that move across across the ceiling, so it's really cool. But yeah, and the movie.

14:07 Can we talk about this movie? I haven't talked about the movie and I'm wrapping it up and I'm and I want you haven't talked about it yet. I have yet to talk to anybody about this movie. But I'm all my dude about it for a while. Yeah, let's talk. Okay, So let me say this first. So you sent me the trailer, yeah, through the DMS, and I watched it today and I was like, oh man, this is going to be way more intense than I thought. This is going to be great. It's going to be one of those that I think is going to get on the radar of a lot of people. Some of Alex's have done crazy, like crazy numbers in terms of viewing. The story of how this movie came to be is actually much more interesting to me than a lot of the other stuff we've made. We set out to just make a single movie about Alaska called Less for an Tier, and it was just going to be about the history of Bigfoot in Alaska and Bigfoot sightings and First Nations people in Alaska and that kind of thing. I've always wanted to go to Alaska, and we ended up being there for seventeen days.

15:15 While we were in Alaska, we ended up shooting close to twenty interviews, and that's way more than can fit in one movie. Realistically, what ended up happening is we had just an insane amount of content between what Alex and Eli were doing out of Area A and then what they also did while they were driving up to meet us in Healy. So they did three episodes of Beyond the Trail in Alaska. And by the way, I can make another announcement on this episode that it has not been announced yet about Alex and Alaska and Eli in Alaska actually as long as we're talking about all this. But so, we were filming so many interviews that it became obvious we were going to have too much content to make one movie. We need to make two movies. But then the question became like, what is the movie we're making?

16:14 Like every interview we were doing, especially with like indigenous people, was really hinting at a much darker lore surrounding Sasquatch and stuff other than Sasquatch in Alaska, and the kind of stuff that I've wanted to delve into within the series and be able to do it from a personal standpoint. That's what ended up happening. We really got into the missing people topic as the shoot went on, organically happen within making the movie, which we've never had. I've never had that happen. I've never been making a movie and then have another movie just come into focus as we're making another movie ended up while we were driving. This is midway through the shoot. While we're driving from like the coast up to oh, what is that area called. So there's five regions and this would be the Arctic, the Subarctics, the Arctic. So basically once you get up near Denali, we're driving from Homer up to Denali.

17:25 Heather booked us an interview with a guy who had a connection to a young boy who was supposedly taken by a Sasquatch, and so once that happened, I was like, Okay, the second movie is going to finally be my chance to look at missing people and the sort of the darker side of Sasquatch through the lens of Alaska, and so that's what it has become. So the movie is about it's certainly about missing people. It's about violent, aggressive bigfoot encounters, which is very important in that state. A couple of the ones we had are some of the most insane. One of them from Fred role is it's wild like it's on another level when it comes to sasquash encounters.

18:19 So I'm looking forward to getting that in front of camera or in front of audiences. But I'm also I was able to with that series with On the Trail of Bigfoot. It's me looking at the subject of Bigfoot, but it's supposed to be from personal standpoints. I'm allowed to comment directly on it and like give where I give my own perspective on this kind of stuff, and I have very specific thoughts about the missing people topic, and a lot of people capitalize on it. I was able to come at it from that perspective and put my own stamp on it and do it in a way that I feel is personal. I think it's respectful to the people who have gone missing and their families, and also maybe look at it in a way that I hadn't looked at the subject before. And when you get into interviewing Cliff Barrickman and he's putting weight behind it, like it changes your mind on the whole thing. But every single person we interviewed believes that Sasquatch is somehow responsible for some number of missing people reports. And so that's the movie really, I mean, it's straight up just dives into that from the go. It isn't just about Squatch. It there is a section in the movie where I

19:53 was able to delve into some of the other cryptids that exist. In the last together, there's a ton like people claim to see Woolly Mammoth's up there. That's not in the movie. I wish it was, because I have interview segments that where people did talk about that. But it at that point it really did start to feel like a completely different movies that little section got cut. We do talk about like giants, the concept of undiscovered tribes that live in some of the really remote areas, the idea of devil monkeys, which is a really common There's two ways to approach that too. One is there's this idea of like ice monkeys that live over there, snow monkeys, but then there's also the idea of like small people. There's a lot of lore connected to like little people that live in the woods who come and take people. What's weird is so much of the lore over there does somehow reflect a fear of being taken or directly reference being taken by something. So if it isn't Bigfoot taking people, it's like little people or or this these undiscovered tribes who take people for a period of seven years. There's all this stuff that's really weird. A lot of it is just in reference to a fear

21:26 of going into the woods, and so the movie deals into all that. It also gets into UFOs and the Dark Pyramid or the Black Pyramid in Denali, because we were like right near Denali when we were in Healy, I actually stayed my backyard at the primitive cabin I stayed in was Denali National Park. So when I would walk out my door in the morning, I was looking at Denali National Park and there was no one near me. When I was staying there, there was no one within two three miles. There's other cabins on that property, but when I was there, it was not tourist season and so no one was staying there except me and I did hear some stuff. Unfortunately it's not I didn't catch audio, but in the movie you'll hear me talk about or I can just I heard the like baby crying stuff.

22:23 Did oh man? Yeah, I heard the baby crying stuff, and I heard some strange what was weirder. We heard the baby crying stuff, for sure, But we had multiple instances that were really odd there. One of them was Courney and I were there one night. We had just dropped the group off and gone back to the cabin. We're hanging out at the cabin. We were there during the time of year where it's never dark, so it's always light outside. So we're outside the cabin. It's about eleven o'clock at nine, but it looks like it's four o'clock in the afternoon. We're outside of the cabin, and we could hear kids playing, like what clearly sounds like kids playing. There are no houses there, so I'm confused still to this day as to what we were hearing. Sounded like children playing and yelling and stuff like that. In the woods. There were a ton of moose at that property, which is actually in Alaska. Much more terrifying than bear, because this will just screw you up. I was going to do an episode of The big Foot Project out at this cabin and just never happened. But one other thing, and I haven't talked about this anywhere, but there was a night. There was a night where we were out at the cabin and a black SUV pulled in and just coung out, and so I ended up calling Alex and Eli and they came down because they were up the road, which, by the way, their cabin was on Stampede Road,

23:55 which, if anyone knows about, Chris mccamlis disappeared on Stampede Trail right down the road from Stampede Road, so where their airbnb was within two miles of where Chris mccammis was last seen. So when the movie opens with Alex, Eli and I were actually on stamped Trail right at the spot where Chris mccammis would have been dropped off. Which I know this is referenced in Alaskan Coastal but like that, to me is the most famous missing person's case in Alaskan history. He did show up, obviously he was dead. But when you think of Alaska, a lot of people think of Chris mccannilis, and so that state is just inherently tied to missing people, and there is a Bigfoot connection via the lore to a lot of that stuff. I tried to be as objective about it as I could be. I also think you said today you can't wait to see it like on the big screen. Oh you have no idea, Like I never used for whatever reason, I'm not real clear on why I did this, but I barely used any of our helicopter footage in Last Frontier, and so this thing is just loaded with it.

25:18 So we have really crazy like aerial shots of forests and rivers and mountaintops and like all kinds of stuff in here, borderline national geographical level kind of stuff. So seeing it on a big screen and it probably won't the way things go with STM, it probably won't screen on a big screen. Again, like seeing it at the Palace is going to be crazy. I'm really excited to have this one in front of an audience just because it is a little different from the typical on the trail of Bigfoot, because and on the trail of Bigfoot, I typically in front of the camera walking around in like these places and we're doing bigfoot hunts or whatever. There's less of that in these Alaskan ones, but there's a reason for that. We interviewed so many people.

26:08 And then also it's never it was never dark, so it's not what are you gonna do? Most people want to see us out in the woods after dark because it's spooky. It's not dark like I'd go to bed at in the middle of it. I'd go to bed at one am, and you wake up at six and it's the same level of brightness outside. I'm excited to get the movie out there, and it feels to me these Alaskan ones. I don't know if other people, maybe not, both the Alaska ones, but I feel like it's funny. I thought Last Frontier would be the really personal one, and I it is to some extent, like I dedicated it to my mom and stuff. But this one almost feels more personal in a way which you'll see what you watch it why that might be.

27:00 But this one and Journey to me very much feel like film versions of sas what that's because it's all there's a lot of me like ruminating on the topic and like where I feel like we're going wrong or right with the stuff newer listeners might not know. But Seth and Mark Madski used to have a Bigfoot theme podcast called sas What which is What's Incredible? And Andy wasn't involved too. I have a few follow up questions, So what happened with the black suv? Or if you so, no, I can tell you. So I went. The way this happened is I was staying at a primitive cabin in the middle of nowhere. Okay, so like middle of the night, I get up and walk outside and nothing but a pair of boxers to take a leak. And I'm standing there and I'm looking at the ground or something.

28:03 I don't know what I was doing, but I was not looking straight ahead, and when I looked up, I was facing the van or this suv, not a van, this black suv that shouldn't be there. I messaged the landowner and asked if someone had come back there, and they were like no, so this suv was just sitting there. I quickly ran inside, called Alex and Eli, and at some point between when Alex and Eli got down there and when I called, this suv left, So by the time I got down there, it was gone. The weird thing was that night, I just had a weird vibe. I don't talk lightly about that kind of stuff. I'm not into vibes or whatever, but it was I had a weird sense that night. The only other night that I was staying there where I had an equally weird sense was there was a night where Courtney was down there with me and we where we had gone out on the front porch and the door shut and when the door to the cabin shut, it has an automatic lock. And when the door to the cabin shut, we had, for some reason both left our phones inside, so it locks.

29:22 I'm not wearing shoes and she wasn't either, and so we're outside in Alaska. We don't have a car key, it's in the house. There aren't really windows to the cabin. There isn't really like a way we could break a window out and sneak back. It's a primitive like it's a hunting cabin. So we're out in Alaska with no knowledge. We could not remember what the code was to get back in the house, and I ended up considering running two miles down the road to the other airbnba to see if they could get us inside barefoot. In thirty degree whether Thankfully, somehow Courtney remembered the code and we did get back inside. So that was one of our scarier incidents. But yeah, nothing came of the suv and nothing came of the cries we heard or the sounds we heard. And I'm pretty upfront about that.

30:22 Like the movie opens with that typical Bigfoot stuff. Nothing happens, Wow, but it's it was weird, and it somehow felt like the right way to open the movie. Just like hinting at the idea that when you're in Alaska, Heally is by the way, Healey's a tiny town, but you're only probably fifteen minutes from the entrance to Denali National Park, which is a very touristy area in at least in Alaskan terms. There's a couple of resorts there, there's some restaurants and things like that. Where we were down in Healey's much less too risty. But no matter where you are in Alaska, you're gonna at some point you are going to feel eerily isolated. And when you actually put yourself in a situation where you are completely isolated, which I did with that primitive cabin had no running water, We had electricity, but no running water, and we were probably two three miles from the closest house in a place where there's giant brown bears running around, there's moose crap all over the property, where everywhere there's links walking. We saw links the one day driving out Everything there can kill you and you feel that isolation really well.

31:48 I am a huge fan of that Into the Wild story. When the book came out, I was working for my parents, and I can remember sitting at my parents store and the book when I should have been working before the movie even came out. And then the movie came out and I watched the movie, and I love that. So that story has always spoke to me. Landed The Missing ends with a quote by Jack London and like, when I was a kid, Alaska was my thing. That was what I wanted to do, That was where I wanted to go. Was like that was my bucketless place. That was the main reason we ended up staying there for seventeen days. We didn't actually need seventeen days to film a movie.

32:29 We can film a movie in four days. But I've always wanted to go to Alaska, and now Alex and eel I are both doing more there. I am even more excited to see this movie. And so, guys, if you want to see this is going to be amazing on the big screen. All the info for a Monster Fests over at small Town Monsters dot Com. Alex is doing a full season of a show. We have not yet if this will be something that happens again or if it's a mini series one off. He's going to be doing multiple episodes at Area A, and it's not Beyond the Trail, it's something a little more personal. It's going to be directly from Alex's POV and it's going to be all set at Area A.

33:19 He's gonna be in Alaska. He's going to be on the way to and from Alaska and in Alaska for around six weeks, so coming up right after Monsterfest. When he leaves Monsterfest, he's driving to Alaska. So once he's in Alaska, he's going to Aria A. He's doing the Boreal big Foot Conference, and then he'll go to Area A and he'll be at Area A, parked at Area A for two plus weeks, making an entire show based around Area A. Wow. He's also doing multiple episodes of Beyond the Trail in Alaska that aren't directly at Area. This new series is not gonna be like a thing where we're canceling beyond the Trail in the meantime or putting it on a hiatus. Beyond the Trail is going to continue, and this is going to run concurrent. I can just tell you as of like August, there's going to be one thing, like one big series of week coming out on YouTube. Eli will definitely be shooting mysteries and monsters up in Alaska as well, so both of them are going to be doing your own separate things up in that neck of the woods. And then sometime in August.

34:35 Actually, I think the way we haven't planned is some of Alex's stuff might start hitting in July, but you'll start seeing a large chunk of stuff from us popping up on our YouTube around August, where it will be like a weekly, big series because we also have Sasquashed unearthed in West Virdge and you are coming out starting this month later this month. That is incredible, man, I kid just can't imagine because like Area a holy mackerel. You know that the stuff didn't stop happening once Alex and Eli and Ron and all those guy's left that area. It's gonna it's still going on right now, and that is amazing that Alex is gonna be up there for that amount of time.

35:28 It's almost like an awac A situation with Area X, where it's like you get them in there for a long time past the normal time where the sasquatchs think they're gonna leave, and then that's when the craziest stuff really starts. I think I think they I don't think they do leave, And I think this is why this kind of thing. I mean that when let's say the people visiting the area leave, not to send the sasquatcher there. They're not leaving. Yeah, yeah, but I think that's why this kind of thing is actually much more a much more realistic approach to actually train to find answers than chasing sighting reports. I had the same thing happened in Minerva.

36:17 It's just it happened for a very specific reason at that period of time. I think we've nailed down why it happened at this point. The name. I don't want to get off on a tangent though, because you're please, I'd be very interested as to what you had figured out. So yeah, for listeners who don't know. We did a series called Bigfoot Project. The Bigfoot Project. Heather Moser's family lives on a pretty sizable chunk of property outside of Minerva, Ohio, where there is a history of sightings going back some ways. We started going their last not this past but the previous September, and pretty much immediately had activity. We had a lot of activity, and it lasted a certain number of months and then just died, like completely died.

37:13 There was no there's nothing. So right before Heather notified me that there was strange stuff happening on the property, the neighboring property, which was far larger, a much larger chunk of forest, started being clear cut for a TV trails. Our assumption is that these things, we're trying to find a place to go. They headed over to this property where there is forest, but maybe not as dense, there's not as much like water. They end upon this property where I happened to be like it's like the most coincidental thing, but it all fell into place, so like I end up there.

37:58 We had activity. We started experiencing things in September. By November, the leaf canopies down there were still odd happenings, which is why we made two more episodes after the leaf Canopy help came down, but it was definitely dying off. Now they're clear cutting the pipelines. Okay, within at how there's property and so literally I wish I had the photo, but are a way to show you the photo. But even where I had my sighting, it's completely clear cut right now and there are bulldozers all over the hill. It was like the right place, right time with all the construction happening on the property. There's also the fact that in the very first episode, Corey said that the guy that owns as the property said that they're developing land on the other side of the hill from where the property is. I think these things happened actually far more frequently and states like Ohio than people realize. I think these things are far more prevalent or were far more prevalent in Ohio and other states like Ohio than people realize. But they are getting pushed. I think they're getting pushed into more. They're constantly being pushed out of certain areas, like near where stm was previously located in Wadsworth, there was there were all

39:30 these stories about the river stix Monster and Mark the Worth, who's like a Bigfoot investigator in Ohio. His uncle had a sighting near Riverstis. If you go to River Sticks today. I just drove through it in the last two weeks. It's completely developed, but it wasn't like that, even in the last ten years. It wasn't like that. So it's it happens fast, and I think when it happens, you see a natural sort of disappearance of the reports from that area. That kind of thing happen exactly. If listeners haven't watched The Bigfoot Project yet, you need to go back a little bit and you need to take the time to watch it. It's very cool and you get to see set book it after. I'm not going to spoil it for you, but he's it's pretty awesome. The whole series is. It's one of my favorites. There is one thing that I want to make sure that we touch on that we haven't really yet, and that is this Monster Fest is so unique in that they are going to be guests there. People you've invited that have never will probably not go to one of these things again.

40:51 I think people really need to get that this might be the one chance to meet some of these people and for them to have that connection. Do you mind sharing who's some of the really unique individuals that you've invited to come to Monster Fest would be Lauren Coleman is going to be speaking and appearing at the event. Same with Stan Gordon, who's like a Pennsylvania researcher. He's going to be appearing and speaking. Cliff Barrickman from Finding big Foot, Richard Haddam, who is the screenwriter on Mothman Prophecies, will be there. Amy Boo, who is in the Olympic Project and she's a really great Ohio based researcher. She's going to be speaking. She'll be there. We're only having four speakers, which is why I'm mentioning this The event is much more geared around your personal, like Congoer's personal interaction with these people rather than just focusing on listening to them. Lyle Blackburn's going to be there. He's not speaking, which, like to some people would be a surprise, but I want people to be able to go talk to Lotle oh Yes, Forrest and Scott from A Stonishing Legends, Jim Harold, Shannon LeGrow, Eli Watson, Alexander Pennikov, Aaron Deese who just wrote Oh Yeah, Texas dog Man Triangle book that is being published byshal Monti Monsters. Mark Matski will be there, Adam Dugan who's been in munch of bart movies, Jeremiah Byron who you may have heard of from the Bigfoot Society podcast, and then me but there's also Heather

42:24 Moser will be there. All the STM crew will be there, including Brandon Dalo who we're flying it, which is awesome that they've gotten Brandon coming out. He's the music guy if people don't know, he's the composer of the music that's in all of your favorite STM movies, etc. Yeah, he'll be there, and his dad will be there, which his dad's running our av so his dad is like a legend in the Kenton music scene. By the way, nice but it is. Yeah, it's the cancelation is just in Turnipesky. It's not going to work out. So I have not yet figured out if I'm going to pull a surprise on everybody and get someone else involved, but as of now that is our guestless. I should mention the live podcast room. There's a full on podcast, a live podcast room that will have multiple live podcasts, including Bigfoot Society, Sasquash Experience with Sean Forker, Astonishing Legends, Jim Harold, and then Laura's Show is a sort yeah.

43:45 Yes, the events free for kids twelve and under, so we're doing like a there's gonna be a scavenger hunt and other like all ages friendly stuff. Nice. It's a family oriented event. I've recently said this to the crew at the end of the day. STM is supposed to be geared around family like it was from the beginning, and I don't want us to become lost in the shuffle of making scary movies and then forget about who our main audiences. I want kids to be able to get into the stuff. There's gonna be a lot going on, but it's definitely a family friendly event.

44:28 I'm so pumped. And listeners is going to be the links to where to get this info in the show notes. If you want to go, it'll be less than thirty days. It's going to be a few days, less than thirty days by the time this gets out. You need to immediately buy your ticket and immediately try to get a hotel room as quick as you can before we go sets, we have a few more minutes. One of the features you have coming out this year is your British Columbia project, and you share maybe one little thing that you are just extremely excited about being able to do in British Columbia once you go out there. Yeah, I know.

45:14 Mark was just at my house last last week and him and I we're talking about this. The idea that where we're going is when you look at it on a map and you look at the historical Bigfoot accounts, so much happened within that area. That is mind blowing because you've got this is the place. So we're actually going to be at We're staying in the Harrison, the Harrison Valley. No it's not Harrison Valley, I can't remember the name. It's a valley. Harrison Hot Springs is right there, which is where John Green was. And then we're staying within fifteen minutes of Ruby Creek, and then you're not that far from like the Albert Austman sighting, and like when you start really looking at it, this is the place where the Sasquatch moniker came into focus. Like people only know about it because of this area, and so that's the name for me. It was always about John Green, and I've learned some things about John Green while I was researching this movie, just some extent that I'm interested in trying to explore. I don't know if we're going to get to but just as a person and how he was viewed by his family that I'm interested in. It's not as positive as I would have expected, but I've always felt like sasquatch researchers, especially those that get

46:47 really deep into it, inevitably somehow destroyed their relationship with their family. And that's important to me right now because I don't know if it's just because of my son or my mom or what it is. But like, I'm sure I'm going to come at that from some sort of angle when I get into the narration of it. Anytime I can find a really personal angle to take on this stuff within the context of On the Trail of Bigfoot, it excites me because that's the whole point of the series. Otherwise we might as well just keep making spooky legend, right. It seems like that's going to be where I'm coming at this from. I know we are doing an ATV, an ATV expedition one day that will take us around a place called Sasquash Mountain, and then I know we're doing a nighttime boat ride down the river near there that I'm excited about. So those are the adventure things. But we're going to go to Ruby Creek. We're going to interview a lot of people locally, and the area is gorgeous. It almost reminds me when I'm looking at it, it reminds me of a cross between the Olympic Peninsula and like the Rockies. Excited to see that as well. But listeners, make sure that if you're interested in the monster Fest stuff we've been talking about at all,

48:17 go over to smalltown Monsters dot com, click on the monster Fest tab. Get all the info up at the top. But times running out. It's June second, sas yes, June second is. June third is the monster Fest Saturday. June Monsterfest June second is the premiere at the Camp Hellis Theater. It's gonna be a rock and time. And if you see me there, listeners, please come up and say hi. I hope to see in the podcast room. I'm going to have a thousand stickers that I'm just given away because Monsterfest is where the people are at, so come up to me, Seth. Always a pleasure to chat with you. Thanks so much for coming on. Yeah, thanks for having me. Become a supporting member of The Bigfoot Society podcast by going to www dot Patreon dot com forward slash the Bigfoot Society and receive extra episodes and early ad free episodes as well.

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