Oct. 6, 2025

The Beast of the Bayou! | Louisiana

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What happens when a lifelong hunter finds himself hunted in the swamps of Caddo Lake? In this shocking and adrenaline-filled episode, we sit down with Mike from Louisiana, a seasoned outdoorsman whose terrifying encounters in the 1980s forced him to abandon the woods forever. From a silent stalker in waist-deep bayou waters to being nearly knocked unconscious by a flying log — and a scream so powerful it shook his entire body — Mike’s stories are as violent as they are unforgettable. You’ll hear about unexplainable crashes, huffing shadows behind storage sheds, and the moment he realized... something intelligent was out there. With activity spanning Monterey Lake, James Bayou, and swamps deep in the Caddo wilderness, this episode is a raw and rare glimpse into the kind of Bigfoot encounter that leaves scars. Don’t miss this one.

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You're listening to BIGFA Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In

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this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring

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you first hand encounters from people who say they've seen

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something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to

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quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere,

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and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.

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These are the voices of the people who've lived it.

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To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that

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just might change the way you see the woods forever.

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So stay with us.

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You've got the privilege of talking to Mike today. Mike

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is from down there in Louisiana, wanting to share some

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interesting things he's had happen over the years. Welcome to

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the show, Mike. How are you doing, sir.

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I'm doing great, Jeremiah, and it's good to talk with you.

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Absolutely, I think it might be interesting. First, Mike, do

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you mind sharing what made you contact the show in

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the first place that you had shared with me a

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few minutes ago.

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I've lived on Cattle Lake my entire life, pretty much

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my entire life, moved off for eight years the East

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coast career wise or whatever, but came back and retired

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and these incidents, and these incidents that happened to me

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drastically changed my life. I was a big hunter and

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camper and trapper, and the last incident pretty much kept

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me out of the woods and just terrified me. And

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so I got infatuated digging into it a little bit deeper,

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trying to find answers and started listening to the missing.

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For one one stuff, Fred roll up a Subarctic sasquatch

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and ran across your show and happened to listen to

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a lady that was talking about her encounters on Kedlea,

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And so it just inspired me to drop you an

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email and see if you were interested in listening to

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some of the strange things that I had happened to

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me on Kettle Lake.

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Absolutely, and the rest is history, and we were able

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to set it up, Mike, as that area is there's

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a lot of activity and a lot of history. But

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I'm curious to hear what you've experienced. Feel free to

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take us back as far as you need to when

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you started experiencing things in this area.

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Okay, I had two back to back incidentss that really

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made me start thinking about things. And this happened in

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nineteen eighty seven, in nineteen eighty eight, and it made

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me think about things that happened with me, strange things

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that happened through the woods when I was younger. And

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I'll go back to those, but I want to talk

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about what happened in nineteen eighty seven. I was duck hunting,

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and I was duck hunting in a pond that was

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about a twenty acre pond that was just a few

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hundred yards from the main value James Bayou, right on Louisiana,

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Texas line. I don't know if it used to be

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part of the Vayu. I don't know why that pond was.

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It's just but it was there. And the back half

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of this pond was separated from the main pond by

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a small group of trees. And the back half the

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pond was old, flooded timber, and the majority of it

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had fallen, had died, rotted and fallen. There was some

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buck brushing there, but a really great place for ducks

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to light. And so I built a small little duck line,

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just a one man duck line with a seat and

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something to stand on his chute and put wire around

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it and brushed it. And when you're in the duckline

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and you look to the right hand side of the pond,

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there was trees, very small trees that were very close

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together that came out into the water, probably twenty yards

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or so, but there was really thick back in there.

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On the left hand side was an old pine forest

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growth and it was easy access into. And that's how

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I kept my little kayak there and got to my

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mind the night before I went hunting. This morning it

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had gotten really cold for us here. It's down in

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the twenties, which is rare but good for duck on

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ducks follow the weather. I was excited about going, and

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I left about forty five minutes earlier than I normally

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did normally did because I thought that there may be

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some ice on the pond and I might need to

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break the ice up so the ducks that have a

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place to light. And I got there and there was

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just a real thin sheet ice on there, and it

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broke up when I took my kayak through there, and

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I got in my duck mind and went to pour

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me a cup of coffee, and I heard some splashing

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to the bright of me and for some reason, Jeremiah,

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this is so weird. I instantly had this feeling of dread,

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and I've never had that feeling hunting before anything. And

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this was before the sounds. I could really make out

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what was going on, and so I just froze. And

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it was somebody walking in the water, and it was

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somebody walking in about died deep water and they were

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inside that tree line. And that tree line is treacherous.

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I had shot a couple of ducks that had fallen

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back in there, and there was a bunch of dead

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falls and it was just very It was very dangerous

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to be and I had to go get some ducks

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out of there before and it was not comfortable. Plus

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there's some big alligators in that pond as well. And

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I could see the moonlight was lighting the ripples from

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the water from where they were moving, and I could

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tell that it was just right inside the tree line.

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It was still very dark. I couldn't see anything, and

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realistic though in the daytime, you really couldn't see in

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there because of the canopy of the trees. It was

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so dark. But this person just I could hear him

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stepping over the dead falls, and I knew it wasn't

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a deer or anything. It would have to jump, or

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a cow would have had to jump, pig would have

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been swimming. Beavers and alligators don't make noise like that.

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It was definitely somebody walking and stepping over the dead falls,

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and it came within probably thirty feet of me, and

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I just was froze, and I sit there and I

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listened to it walk until I couldn't hear it anymore

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to the back of the pond. And I'm thinking, who

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in their right mind would be walking through that without

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a light first and foremost, and who in their right

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mind would be walking through that to begin with? And

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my first thought was, Oh, it's got to be a

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game boarder. They must think I'm doing something wrong or

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something like that. And that's pretty much what I thought.

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And I thought I'm gonna get checked. I made. I'm

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sure I did everything legal, and it was a good morning.

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I shot my limited ducks by eight or eight thirty

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that morning. I gathered my ducks and got my truck

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and went to leave and expected to get stopped by

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the game warden. Didn't happen, and I just since something

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was wrong. It was just not normal. Nobody would be

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walking through that in the dark without a light, as

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cold as it was, as treacherous as that was, and

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it just bugged me. The next day, I ran into

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the game warden and I asked him about it, and

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he was like, there's no way I'm gonna sit in

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my car in the heater and wait for you to

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come out. I'm not getting in that water. And that

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instantly sparked curiosity to me. So I instantly went back

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out there. And I had never walked on the bank

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on the opposite side, and so I went over there,

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and Lord and behold, it was clear on the other

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side of those trees on the bank. It was completely clear,

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and no underbrush and no thorn or anything. Somebody could

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have easily just walked down through there. I would have

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never heard them. And then it made me go. It

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really raised flags, and I'm like, whoever this was was

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really trying very hard not to be seen by anybody,

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and it freaked me out, to be unhnest with you.

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I hunted there a couple more times, but only in

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the afternoons, and I was out of there by dark.

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It there was something wrong about it, and I could

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not put my finger on it, and I felt uncomfortable

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being there. It was a great duck hunting spot. It

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was the best duck hunt spot I ever had, but

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something was wrong right, and I felt it, and I

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just decided not to go. By spring forward to the

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next year, nineteen eighty eight, it was opening week of

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squirrel season, and squirrel season opened on this Saturday, and

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it rained very hard all weekend long, and I was

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off on Monday, and there was a place I wanted

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to go check down in the swamps that I thought

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would be a really good spot for deer, and I

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wanted to scout it and see if I saw any

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signs of deer and possibly shoot a couple of squirrels.

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When I was down there and I got up that

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Monday morning, it was still downpour and raining, and it

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stopped about ten o'clock and I parked. I went out

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to the woods and I parked at their friends camp

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and I walked started heading towards the mouth of the swamp,

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and I stopped at some old oak trees and sat

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down for a while. Didn't see anything, and the woods

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were really quiet, but it normally is when the weather's bad,

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so I didn't think much about it, and I got

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up to go ahead and head down to where I

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was going, and a blue heron alerted on the value.

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And for a hunter, that's really bad because the blue

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herons are really loud and they let everything know for

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a mile and a half that there's danger. And so

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I was like, dam it was the first of a

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squirrel season. The leaves are still on the trees, it

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was still pretty warm. I knew I was going to

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have a hard time to seend squirrels anyway, but I

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was like warned everything, But anyway, I'm down here to

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go look for deer tracks and scrapes and that kind

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of thing. So the area that I was going to

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go check out is actually a peninsula down in the swamp,

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and it's a white oak flat down in there, and

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these white oaks trees they have acorns the size of quarters,

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these huge acorns, and I always thought they would be

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a good spot for deer. You got on three sides,

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is only one way in and one way out, so

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I wanted to just check it out. And I got

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to the peninsula and I started doing my stalking hunt

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like I do, moving as quiet as I can, balking

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my movement as much as I can and i'd go

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about twenty thirty yards stop, sit there for about ten

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minutes and look around and listen, and it's kind of

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a zigzag pattern. And I zigzagged all the way back

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to the end of the peninsula. There. I didn't see anything,

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didn't hear anything. It woulds just really quiet. I started

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my way back and I was going to use my

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zigzag pattern going the opposite way. And I was stopped,

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and I picked a path to go, and I used

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trees and things like that to try to mask my

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movement as much as possible. And I saw a spot

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and there was a low spot in the ground and

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there's a big mud puddle there. I was going to

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go by it, so I started that way, and as

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soon as I got next to that mud totaled this

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huge splash, just splash and just soaked me. Scared the

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heck out of me. And my first thought was, Oh, crap,

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a gator. And then I looked down and I realized

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it was just a few inches deep. And then I

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thought I walked straight up on a deer. And I

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looked and I didn't see the deer's tail flagging. I

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didn't see the deer going off and I'm thinking wood duck,

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and I'm looking there's nothing fine off and I'm confused.

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And I looked back down in the water and there's

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this half rotten pine limb about I don't know foot

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in diameter, about two feet long, sitting in there. And

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so I thought, oh, a squirrel was running across the

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rotten limb and it fell. And so I looked up

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and there was no pine tree up above me. And

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right about that time, another pine limb conflying by the

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left side of my head, past my ear. I'm talking, Jeremiah,

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within the eighth of the inch of hitting me with velocity,

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I jumped and I instantly went to turn around to

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my right to look behind me, and something let out

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this scream. It was a short scream. It was just

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a couple of seconds long. It scared me so bad.

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I can't even tell you what it sounded like, but

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I can tell you what it felt like. It felt

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like I was electrocuted or something. It shook my entire body,

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and before I knew it, I was like ten steps

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into a full run. My body my mind had not

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computed what was going on. And when I finally my

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mind finally caught up with my body as to what

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was going on, and my mind was like, Okay, this

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is not a flight or fight situation. This is a

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flight and fight situation. This is you're in bad spot here.

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So I got to the bayou, so I had one

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side of myself protected and I stopped, and I kicked

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some squirrel loads out, and I put some slugs in

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my gun, and I looked maybe five seconds I stopped.

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I heard nothing. I saw nothing. I looked to my

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further to my right to make sure nothing was flanking me.

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I saw nothing, I heard nothing. So I just took

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off on a run. I ran all the way back

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to my car and completely terrified me. The feeling that

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that that Yelle made is it's really undescribable. It really is.

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And that's when I realized there's something out there, and

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that's something that was out there was not throwing pebbles

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and pine cones at me to get my attention. That

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thing was trying to hit me. And for years I

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thought about it and thought about it. I thought maybe

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there was a young one there was protecting it. This,

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that and the other, and now I think about it,

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I think that it felt threatened by me. I had

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a gun. I think that it felt threatened by me

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by the way I was moving through the woods, and

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I think that it felt like I was going to

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see it eventually, and I think he was trying to

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separate me from the gun. I truly do. And unfortunately

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he didn't hit me with that, because if he were

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to hit me, it would have definitely knocked me out,

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maybe even worse. So that ended my hunting career and

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my camping career. I'm still an avid fisherman, but I

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have just never felt comfortable going back into the woods again,

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and it's a shame. And I'm thinking back on it.

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My kids, my oldest child was a baby when this happens,

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and my two boys don't even know the person I

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used to be, the big outdoor hunting camper, all this stuff.

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They never knew that guy. It was terrifying. It was terrifying,

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And then I started thinking about odd things that had

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happened before that and started putting the pieces together, and

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I just remembered something in the last couple of weeks

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that I could have had a sighting. I was ten

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years old and my dad had a friend who was

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a big hunter. Their owned a bunch of land and

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he asked me if I wanted to come to your hunt,

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and I was like yeah, and so my dad took

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me in. My dad was in the hunter, and they

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basically drove me out to this box stand and set

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me in a box stand and they went back to

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the camp and probably had some drinks or whatever, but

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they weren't hunting. They just dropped me off. They gave

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me a flashlight and tell me to walk back to

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the camp after it got dark, and if I shot it,

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they would come out and help me get the deer out.

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I said, in the in the stand and didn't see anything,

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and then all of a sudden, all hell breaks loose

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about one hundred and fifty yards in front of me,

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and I see these little trees just swaying all in

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the in the air, and stuff crashing and all this stuff,

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and something huffing and puffing. Something was angry and it

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was done. And I looked up and every now and

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then I could see something big and something black in

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between the trees. And this went on for a long time.

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This went on for like maybe forty five minutes an hour,

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and right before dark it stopped. It got dark, and

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I was like, I didn't know where this thing went

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or what it was. I wasn't getting out of the stand,

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and so finally my dad drove down in the truck

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and got me from the stand and asked me why

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I didn't. He's worried about me, asked me why I

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didn't do it, and I told him what had happened.

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And there's a gentleman that had a farm five to

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ten miles from there, and he raised a bunch of bison,

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a bunch of buffalo. And my dad told me one

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of those bison must have got out, and it's a

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good thing you stayed in the stand, because those things

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can be pretty aggressive in their mean It's a good

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thing you stayed in the stand. And I never thought

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anything else about it. My dad. I was ten years old.

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My dad, to me at that time, was the smartest

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man in the world. And he said it was a buffalo.

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It was a buffalo. But now I questioned that then,

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and we spring forward. That was probably it was probably

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nineteen seventy three when that happened. So we jump up

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to nineteen seventy eight, and me and a buddy were

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running lines that night on the bayou and it was cold.

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I remember it was cold, and on the byu we

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were on, we were always told on the west side

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of the bayou, if anybody comes hollering at whatever, you

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go over there, because there was not a bridge over

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the bayou and there was no phone lines over there,

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and somebody was in trouble. It was like an hour

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drive to the hospital. We were down there checking our lines,

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and all of a sudden we heard somebody hollering. We

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shined our light over and there was this gentleman on

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the end of this pier, and so we cranked the

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motor up and went over to him, and this guy

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just jumped in our boat and was like, go, and

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so we did, and we went about one hundred yards

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down to bayou and my buddy shut the motor off

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and we looked at him, like, what's the matter? Are

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you okay? And he was like, I came to go

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deer hunting with my buddies, and I was coming down

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the road and I hit something and it was on

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all fours, but then it got up on two legs

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and ran off, and I came all the way to

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the camp and I came out to see if the

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door of the camp was open, and this thing must

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have followed me and it was tacking my truck. And

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to be honest with you, Jeremiah, we were looking at

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this guy like it was the seventies, right, So I'm thinking, Okay,

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this guy on some acid or some mushrooms or something.

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And then the buffalo came back into mine. I thought

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maybe he hit one of those buffalo made him mad.

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In this road that's over there, it's very undeveloped road.

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It's a dirt road. He couldn't have been going more

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than twenty five miles an hour when he hit whatever

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he hit and done, so I'm thinking we were thinking

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all kinds of things. We never thought bigfoot, right. So

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the gentleman came back to our camp and tried to

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make some phone calls, but it was like four in

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the morning and everybody was sleeping. This guy was terrified,

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and I think he got angry at us because we

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kept saying that there's some guy that has buffalo over there.

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When he was finally quit talking to us, but he

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told us he wasn't going to go back to that

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camp till daylight. So we stayed up with him and

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took him back, and when we pulled up, we saw

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that there was other vehicles there. I wished we would

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have stopped and got out and looked at the guy's

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truck and whatever, but we were tired and we left.

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I actually, after I had my encounter, had contacted the

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BFRO and told them about that scary encounter I had,

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and also asked them about this encounter of the gentleman

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supposedly hitting something, and they never got back to me.

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But I know the gentleman. I'm sixty two and the

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gentleman is probably ten to fifteen years older than me.

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I don't know if you still around, But if somebody

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hears this that knows something about that encounter, I would

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love to hear from them, because I'd love to hear

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more on that. I wish i'd have paid more attention

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instead of just thinking the guy was crazy or just

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scared of being in the woods. It's basically what we thought.

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The next year, we were at the same place running

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lines and we decided to quit. When we came in

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and the camp you had to use the key to

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lock the door front door, and we left and we

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got down the road and I thought, I don't remember

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if I locked the door, and so I said, we'll

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go back, and so we turned around, we went back.

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I had my car running. We both walked up to

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the on the porch and I had locked it, but

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my buddy said, hey, I want to get a coke

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out the fridge. So I unlocked it. He went and

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got a coke, and when I was locking it, right

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beside the house was a small scores shed and we

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had to go down the steps and walk right past

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it to get to our car. And it was right

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there and something started huffing and puffing behind that thing,

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and it sounded agitated, and it soundedn't matter than hell,

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and it was more breathing with a guttural kind of

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growl at the end of it. And I looked at

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my buddy and I said, don't run. And about that time,

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this thing led out a yell, and it was one

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of those yells, just like the yell that I heard

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when I was on that peninsula. You felt it. And

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I looked at my buddy was already getting in the car.

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He had taken off. So I took I running and

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got in the car and we left out there and

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we laughed about it. We talked, what could it be?

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We do have an occasional bear every now and then

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and have wild hogs. And we did go out there

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to go look see if we see tracks the next day,

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but it's pine forest and soul pine straw, and we

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laughed it off. We didn't think even though we were

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only twenty five miles from Foul. But my dad just

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told me that was a movie and it wasn't real.

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I believe that nobody spoke of back then, of encounters

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or anything like that. I had never heard of anything.

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So the last thing we were ever thinking about was

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a big foot or a cryptid or anything like that.

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But that and that's pretty much the things that have

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happened to me. Now since that time. I have had

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a few strange things. This happened. I was fishing with

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a guy. We were down in the bayou. We were catfishing,

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and we heard a muffled voice come from the swamp

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and it actually said the guy's name. And the guy

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looked at me and said, did you hear that? I'm

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like yeah, he said, was that my name? And I'm

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like yeah, And there's no way anybody was out there,

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and we moved the boat. We went on down the

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swamp a little bit and found a new place to go.

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Another time, I was out there and I anchored up

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to fish and had that just that weird feeling that

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something was wrong. And the first cast a hooked to fish,

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a good fish, and I heard something, but I was

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concentrated on catching the fish, and all of a sudden,

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this tree cracked and fell into the swamp on my

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right hand side. Scared me. So I'm fighting this fish,

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trying to get this fish in, and I'm like, I'm

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gonna get this fish in. Before I could get that

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fish into the boat, another tree on the left hand

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side of the value came down and crashed into the water,

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and that freaked me out. And the wind wasn't blowing.

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It was not a storm. It was just as calm

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day as it could be. Got the fish in the boat,

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I untied my boat, and I got the hell out

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of there. But those are That's pretty much the jest

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of everything that strange has happened to me. Mike, You

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got any questions, Yeah, Mike.

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You really have had a lot of wild stuff happened

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over the years. If you look at everything like chronologically

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in order, it's there's no surprise that you got to

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a point in the eighties, and you're like, you know

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what enough is enough? And you take into consideration the

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stuff that you experienced as a younger man, as a boy.

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You're about fifteen years old, I believe when you had

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that incident with the guy jumping into your boat saying

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that he had run into a big foot. That's absolutely wild, dude.

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Yeah, yeah, And I'll be honest with you, Jeremy, the

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last thing on our mind was me and my friends

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both were bigfoot, even though we were right here at foul.

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We even knew some people that were in the movie,

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but nobody talked about it, and it's really strange. Oh

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and I got to tell you this. So the gentleman

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that I was fishing with when we heard somebody mummer

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his name out there right about three months ago, stopped.

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He saw me out burning some brush and stopped and

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he said, Mike, I got to tell you this. He said,

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we were down where you had your encounter and I

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had my girlfriend. Were going for a boat ride down

463
00:28:04.599 --> 00:28:06.319
through the swamps, and he said, you know the old

464
00:28:06.400 --> 00:28:08.599
duck line back there, and I said yeah. He said.

465
00:28:08.640 --> 00:28:11.240
We stopped and I was looking to just see what

466
00:28:11.319 --> 00:28:12.920
kind of shape the duck line was in to see

467
00:28:12.920 --> 00:28:15.960
if it was salvageable. He said, I was thinking about

468
00:28:15.960 --> 00:28:18.680
maybe using it this year. And he said, all of

469
00:28:18.680 --> 00:28:21.960
a sudden, I heard a big splash, he said, and

470
00:28:22.000 --> 00:28:24.759
I anstantly thought it was a beaver, but it didn't

471
00:28:24.799 --> 00:28:27.759
sound like a beaver. And for people that don't know,

472
00:28:27.920 --> 00:28:30.079
beaver will slap his tail on the water, But it

473
00:28:30.160 --> 00:28:32.960
sounds like a slapper. It sounds like a gun going off.

474
00:28:33.799 --> 00:28:37.240
He said, this sounded like something heavy throw in the water.

475
00:28:37.240 --> 00:28:40.440
It was more like a cadooche. And he turned to

476
00:28:40.440 --> 00:28:43.839
start the motor and he saw this huge rock come

477
00:28:43.920 --> 00:28:48.440
flying and it landed right beside his boat. And this

478
00:28:48.599 --> 00:28:52.759
was three months ago. And this guy is a young guy,

479
00:28:52.799 --> 00:28:56.319
but he's an experienced woodsman and boatsman and all that stuff.

480
00:28:56.319 --> 00:28:58.839
And he scared of them and he got out of there.

481
00:28:59.240 --> 00:29:01.200
He made a point to come tell me about it

482
00:29:01.279 --> 00:29:05.319
the next day. So it's still ongoing. It's still ongoing.

483
00:29:05.839 --> 00:29:08.599
It's I don't go out there. I stay in the

484
00:29:08.640 --> 00:29:11.839
boat absolutely.

485
00:29:12.039 --> 00:29:15.599
And all these sorry, in all these that you're telling

486
00:29:15.640 --> 00:29:18.880
me about, these all happen around Cattle Lake.

487
00:29:18.920 --> 00:29:22.880
Then yes, they were on Cattle Lake, on the very

488
00:29:23.039 --> 00:29:26.599
north end of the lake. If you look at a map,

489
00:29:28.000 --> 00:29:31.079
you've got the main lake now where the other lady

490
00:29:31.160 --> 00:29:35.160
had her experiences on the complete opposite side of the lake,

491
00:29:35.599 --> 00:29:39.440
on the west side of the lake over there. Mine

492
00:29:39.519 --> 00:29:42.839
is really way north. So if you look at the

493
00:29:42.960 --> 00:29:46.839
map of Cattle Lake, it goes into James Bottle, then

494
00:29:46.880 --> 00:29:52.240
you will see where it basically turns into swamp for

495
00:29:52.640 --> 00:29:58.279
probably I don't know, seven ten miles of swamp, and

496
00:29:58.279 --> 00:30:01.119
then it opens up into another little value and they

497
00:30:01.160 --> 00:30:05.559
call it Monterey Lake. And most of my experiences happened

498
00:30:06.720 --> 00:30:11.839
on Monterey Lake or in the swamps. And separating Monterey

499
00:30:11.920 --> 00:30:13.359
Lake from Jeanie's.

500
00:30:13.079 --> 00:30:19.880
Value, Oh yeah, I'm seeing that, man, that is way

501
00:30:19.960 --> 00:30:22.960
up there. When you get up to Monoey Lake, you're

502
00:30:23.000 --> 00:30:24.000
really really going up there.

503
00:30:24.079 --> 00:30:27.200
Yep. Okay. And I when I was a kid, I

504
00:30:27.279 --> 00:30:30.839
used to explore and stuff, and I literally took the

505
00:30:30.960 --> 00:30:35.359
very north end of that and hiked falling creeks all

506
00:30:35.400 --> 00:30:38.359
the way into Arkansas. If you look at that, if

507
00:30:38.359 --> 00:30:42.960
you ever heard of the Mike Wooley incident in Louisiana, where, yeah,

508
00:30:43.319 --> 00:30:46.240
less than hour's drive from where we're at, the Big

509
00:30:46.279 --> 00:30:49.359
Thicket in East Texas has got a lot of reporting.

510
00:30:49.519 --> 00:30:53.559
That's about an hour's drive from us, but we all

511
00:30:53.599 --> 00:30:57.519
share the same watershed, so you put all that together,

512
00:30:57.960 --> 00:31:02.640
it's kind of okay. I can see where they my

513
00:31:02.720 --> 00:31:06.599
great and could my great down through here easily and

514
00:31:06.640 --> 00:31:10.519
like it. And most of my encounters, all my encounters

515
00:31:12.359 --> 00:31:16.400
were in the fall or in the winter. I never

516
00:31:16.480 --> 00:31:20.559
had anything happened. I never had anything happen weird happened

517
00:31:20.599 --> 00:31:23.200
in the spring. I never had anything weird happen in

518
00:31:23.240 --> 00:31:28.039
the summer. I used to camp by myself when I

519
00:31:28.079 --> 00:31:30.880
was eleven years old, out in these values and stuff,

520
00:31:31.000 --> 00:31:34.799
and I loved it, and I nothing scared me. I

521
00:31:34.839 --> 00:31:38.799
was taught to respect nature and understand it, and as

522
00:31:38.839 --> 00:31:41.359
long as you respect it, you will be okay. And

523
00:31:42.839 --> 00:31:46.000
I never had it. Like I said, I never felt

524
00:31:46.119 --> 00:31:51.519
uncomfortable in the woods as a kid. And for this

525
00:31:51.640 --> 00:31:53.839
instance to happen to me, to just completely keep me

526
00:31:53.880 --> 00:31:55.880
out of the woods, it was just a life changing

527
00:31:55.920 --> 00:31:58.559
event for me. It was terrified me. I'm not gonna

528
00:31:58.599 --> 00:32:00.599
lie to you, Jeremiah scared me.

529
00:32:01.440 --> 00:32:05.640
Oh absolutely, Just when you're out there by yourself, you

530
00:32:05.680 --> 00:32:09.119
can get really interesting. Growing up in this area. So

531
00:32:10.160 --> 00:32:13.119
when was it that you had seen the Boggy Creek

532
00:32:13.200 --> 00:32:14.480
movie Legend of Bogga Creek.

533
00:32:15.559 --> 00:32:17.480
I saw it when it came out. My dad took

534
00:32:17.599 --> 00:32:21.960
us to Texas, Canada go see it. I was nine, okay,

535
00:32:22.119 --> 00:32:25.200
and I was like, oh crap, it's weird. But my

536
00:32:25.319 --> 00:32:28.160
dad told me, Dad, that's just a movie. And my

537
00:32:28.279 --> 00:32:31.160
dad and my mom or in my mentor that taught

538
00:32:31.200 --> 00:32:33.559
me hunting and stuff. My dad was not an outdoorsement

539
00:32:33.640 --> 00:32:38.440
so I had this manner, wonderful old man that taught

540
00:32:38.440 --> 00:32:42.400
me to hunt and fish and trap. They didn't have

541
00:32:42.440 --> 00:32:44.160
a problem with me camping out in the woods by

542
00:32:44.160 --> 00:32:47.880
myself and going out by myself, and as a kid,

543
00:32:47.960 --> 00:32:49.920
you're thinking, well, there's something out there that could hurt

544
00:32:49.960 --> 00:32:53.799
me that I don't know about or I haven't seen yet.

545
00:32:53.880 --> 00:32:56.000
They would tell me and they wouldn't let me go

546
00:32:56.079 --> 00:32:58.960
out there. But as far as the Boggy Creek movie

547
00:32:59.000 --> 00:33:02.160
goes to this day, if I'm at somebody's camp or

548
00:33:02.200 --> 00:33:04.000
a house that's out in the woods and they have

549
00:33:04.039 --> 00:33:08.440
a couch that sitting next to a window a table,

550
00:33:09.000 --> 00:33:13.920
yeah yeah, I still to this day will not sit

551
00:33:14.000 --> 00:33:20.240
on that couch. Yeah yeah, yeah, it is.

552
00:33:20.440 --> 00:33:22.799
I think that's what most people think of with that.

553
00:33:22.960 --> 00:33:24.960
That's what I think with that movie is that it's

554
00:33:25.039 --> 00:33:26.680
like an amazing jump scary.

555
00:33:28.039 --> 00:33:30.759
Yeah, what have you ever seen the Have you ever

556
00:33:30.799 --> 00:33:34.440
seen the movie The Creature from Black Leg? I haven't yet. Actually,

557
00:33:34.480 --> 00:33:37.240
I need to look that up. You need to look

558
00:33:37.279 --> 00:33:41.079
it up. It's actually really good and it's filmed. Where

559
00:33:41.160 --> 00:33:48.920
I had my violent encounter is about two hundred yards

560
00:33:48.920 --> 00:33:54.200
from where they filmed the scene where the monster snatched

561
00:33:54.240 --> 00:34:00.000
a guy out of a boat. Really honestly, yeah, yeah,

562
00:33:59.799 --> 00:34:04.400
it was about two hundred yards down the swamp from there. Yeah,

563
00:34:04.440 --> 00:34:05.200
that's pretty cool.

564
00:34:05.440 --> 00:34:08.639
That's awesome. So when you were the one account you

565
00:34:08.719 --> 00:34:13.400
shared where you heard something huffing and puffing, I know

566
00:34:13.719 --> 00:34:16.440
that a lot of people will bring up that maybe

567
00:34:16.599 --> 00:34:20.280
was a deer. But the cool thing in you're it

568
00:34:20.400 --> 00:34:22.199
was is yet.

569
00:34:22.000 --> 00:34:26.159
It was black. It was black. It was not a deer,

570
00:34:26.199 --> 00:34:28.159
and it was not grunting like a good deer. It

571
00:34:28.239 --> 00:34:30.400
was black. Now, could it have been one of those

572
00:34:30.519 --> 00:34:34.119
buffalo that got out of that guy's farm. It's not

573
00:34:34.159 --> 00:34:37.039
like we have wild buffalos in Louisiana and he stutch us.

574
00:34:37.079 --> 00:34:39.559
But this guy did have a big herd of buffalo

575
00:34:39.679 --> 00:34:42.880
and he raised him for years after Could it have

576
00:34:42.920 --> 00:34:44.559
been a buffalo that got out of the can and

577
00:34:44.599 --> 00:34:48.239
had been down there, Absolutely, But it was big. It

578
00:34:48.360 --> 00:34:52.760
was not a deer, and it was black black, and

579
00:34:52.800 --> 00:34:54.880
it wasn't snorting like a deer. And this was a

580
00:34:54.920 --> 00:34:59.519
continuous This was a continuous huffing and puffs and puffing

581
00:34:59.559 --> 00:35:05.559
and tearing trees down and shaking trees and it was whatever.

582
00:35:05.719 --> 00:35:09.039
It was not happy. But like I said, my dad said,

583
00:35:09.400 --> 00:35:12.199
probably one of those buffaloes got out, and they're nasty,

584
00:35:12.239 --> 00:35:16.000
and just be aware if you see a buffalo in

585
00:35:16.039 --> 00:35:21.480
the woods to keep your distance from it. And I okay,

586
00:35:21.920 --> 00:35:23.559
And it could have been it could have been one

587
00:35:23.559 --> 00:35:28.119
of those buffaloes that got out. I don't know, but

588
00:35:28.199 --> 00:35:30.440
it might not have been. Absolutely.

589
00:35:30.559 --> 00:35:32.679
Yeah, it's wild to hear stuff like that out there.

590
00:35:32.760 --> 00:35:35.480
I was just solo camping in Iowa.

591
00:35:37.159 --> 00:35:38.559
And it's it's, oh.

592
00:35:38.519 --> 00:35:40.159
My goodness, what time was it.

593
00:35:40.159 --> 00:35:40.840
It was late.

594
00:35:41.320 --> 00:35:43.079
I was the only one out there in this area,

595
00:35:43.360 --> 00:35:46.280
way out there, and all of a sudden, something is

596
00:35:46.360 --> 00:35:49.960
like out moving outside the camp and like making this

597
00:35:50.039 --> 00:35:55.440
huffing noise for a second half. But I do sometimes

598
00:35:55.440 --> 00:35:57.199
you gotta do a little research with sounds. And I

599
00:35:57.239 --> 00:35:59.760
was like almost one hundred percent sure that was a deer,

600
00:35:59.800 --> 00:36:02.880
but still man freaks out rightly.

601
00:36:04.800 --> 00:36:08.360
Hear. When I was a kid, where I used to camp,

602
00:36:08.679 --> 00:36:12.360
it was down in the Bayou. And I will tell you,

603
00:36:12.440 --> 00:36:15.440
Cadillac's a beautiful, amazing place. If you ever get a

604
00:36:15.519 --> 00:36:17.199
chance to come see it's one of the most beautiful

605
00:36:17.239 --> 00:36:20.679
places in America, I can tell you. But it's full

606
00:36:20.719 --> 00:36:24.599
of life, full of wildlife just everywhere. But at night

607
00:36:25.239 --> 00:36:28.679
it really comes to life and it's a roar. It

608
00:36:28.800 --> 00:36:31.400
literally is a roar all night. It is so loud

609
00:36:31.440 --> 00:36:35.760
and all the frogs and insects and stuff. And it

610
00:36:35.880 --> 00:36:37.800
used to it was like great noise to me when

611
00:36:37.800 --> 00:36:39.320
I was a kid. It would just put me right

612
00:36:39.360 --> 00:36:41.599
to sleep. Now what would wake me up is when

613
00:36:41.599 --> 00:36:45.599
it got quiet. And this was way before cell phones

614
00:36:45.679 --> 00:36:47.719
or anything like that. But when it got quiet, I

615
00:36:47.800 --> 00:36:52.119
knew a storm was coming. I knew they had a

616
00:36:52.119 --> 00:36:54.320
big thunderstorm was sixing to come, and it was six

617
00:36:54.400 --> 00:36:56.760
start running like hell, and it always did. It was

618
00:36:56.800 --> 00:37:00.599
like the weather protector predictor. Something could have been walking

619
00:37:00.599 --> 00:37:02.960
around my dad gumb tent and it would have had

620
00:37:03.000 --> 00:37:05.360
to been awful loud for me to hear it. Because

621
00:37:05.400 --> 00:37:08.400
it is a roar down in those values. It is

622
00:37:08.599 --> 00:37:12.039
super loud at night. But I never had any problems

623
00:37:12.760 --> 00:37:16.239
at all. I kept my camp lit up. I had

624
00:37:16.320 --> 00:37:20.960
three Coleman Leonards. I had I strung ropes around my

625
00:37:21.400 --> 00:37:24.679
camp site and I'd fill them up at night before

626
00:37:24.679 --> 00:37:27.320
I went to bed in case I got up and

627
00:37:27.719 --> 00:37:30.880
had to take care of business that I wouldn't step

628
00:37:30.920 --> 00:37:36.199
on the snake or something. But I've never had any

629
00:37:36.280 --> 00:37:42.239
issues whatsoever. Never it was strange.

630
00:37:43.000 --> 00:37:47.760
Down in that area. What do most people think that

631
00:37:47.840 --> 00:37:50.400
Bigfoot is? Do you have any thoughts about that, Mike.

632
00:37:52.519 --> 00:37:55.159
I don't know. It just seems like now in the

633
00:37:55.280 --> 00:38:00.400
last seven eight years, when you get to talking about it,

634
00:38:00.480 --> 00:38:02.920
people will openly say, man, let me tell you what

635
00:38:02.920 --> 00:38:06.400
happened to me, or this happened to my dad or whatever.

636
00:38:06.440 --> 00:38:09.239
Before then, you didn't hear much. I haven't really heard

637
00:38:09.320 --> 00:38:14.920
much on what people think they are. I think, you know,

638
00:38:15.199 --> 00:38:19.800
with everything I've been watching and hearing, and I think

639
00:38:19.840 --> 00:38:22.000
they're more human than there are anything. I think that

640
00:38:22.159 --> 00:38:30.079
DNA shows that they're more human. I think they've got

641
00:38:30.320 --> 00:38:34.440
the ability to think and reason. I think that this

642
00:38:34.559 --> 00:38:38.760
thing got aggressive with me when he did because he

643
00:38:38.840 --> 00:38:44.159
knew I was a threat, and I was at that time.

644
00:38:44.320 --> 00:38:48.119
If I would have seen it and it was staring

645
00:38:48.159 --> 00:38:52.000
me down, I'd have probably shot it at that time.

646
00:38:52.239 --> 00:38:54.239
I probably would have now if it was walking away

647
00:38:54.239 --> 00:38:59.039
from me. No, but I think that they can think

648
00:38:59.079 --> 00:39:03.920
and they can reason, and they're smart. And the fact

649
00:39:03.960 --> 00:39:07.440
that Jeremiah, this is what's so crazy. So when that

650
00:39:07.880 --> 00:39:10.639
really scary incident happened to me, I call myself a

651
00:39:10.760 --> 00:39:13.480
very patient hunt. I moved very slow through the woods,

652
00:39:13.599 --> 00:39:16.599
very quiet. I take my time, I don't move my

653
00:39:16.639 --> 00:39:20.320
head around when I'm talking. I use my eyes, I

654
00:39:20.480 --> 00:39:24.639
mask my movements. I'm smelling. We have a lot of

655
00:39:25.039 --> 00:39:27.840
cotton mouth snakes here and they smell really bad, and

656
00:39:28.119 --> 00:39:32.039
usually smell them before you see them. Same thing with copperheads.

657
00:39:32.280 --> 00:39:34.360
You can usually smell them before you see them. They

658
00:39:34.360 --> 00:39:38.840
blend in with everything. So I did not see anything,

659
00:39:39.960 --> 00:39:44.639
I did not smell anything, and I did not hear anything.

660
00:39:45.199 --> 00:39:50.000
And that freaks me out because I was a pretty

661
00:39:50.039 --> 00:39:56.599
observant hunter and an observement of my surroundings. And the

662
00:39:56.639 --> 00:39:59.719
fact that I never heard anything, and the fact that

663
00:39:59.760 --> 00:40:03.760
I ever smelled anything or saw anything that blows my mind.

664
00:40:03.800 --> 00:40:07.039
I don't know where this thing could have been to

665
00:40:07.039 --> 00:40:09.840
where I didn't see him. Obviously I passed him twice.

666
00:40:10.199 --> 00:40:15.679
There's only one way in and one way out. So

667
00:40:15.880 --> 00:40:19.239
how I didn't see him twice, I don't know. That

668
00:40:19.280 --> 00:40:24.840
blows my mind. It's got to be a very smart animal.

669
00:40:25.079 --> 00:40:27.519
Oh absolutely, And you really hit the nail on the

670
00:40:27.559 --> 00:40:30.480
head there. That The thing I always notice is how

671
00:40:31.360 --> 00:40:34.920
there really is a massive intelligence.

672
00:40:35.119 --> 00:40:35.639
It's not.

673
00:40:36.199 --> 00:40:41.880
It is not dumb like you always hear about. You

674
00:40:41.920 --> 00:40:44.400
don't sneak up on it, you don't fool it. You're

675
00:40:44.400 --> 00:40:46.360
definitely not gonna trick it, that's for sure.

676
00:40:48.159 --> 00:40:50.840
I think I think that it was doing what I

677
00:40:50.920 --> 00:40:54.079
was doing, and it went down in that peninsula and

678
00:40:54.400 --> 00:40:58.119
the only escape is one way out there's water, unless

679
00:40:58.119 --> 00:41:00.679
you're going to take to the water, there's water. He sides.

680
00:41:01.039 --> 00:41:05.920
I think he made a bad decision and he got trapped,

681
00:41:07.840 --> 00:41:13.840
and he, like I said, he obviously felt threatened because

682
00:41:13.920 --> 00:41:17.119
he was had made a decision he was going to

683
00:41:17.159 --> 00:41:19.800
try to take me out or separate me from my gun.

684
00:41:20.760 --> 00:41:23.840
So I think what happened was is he went in

685
00:41:23.920 --> 00:41:26.440
before me, and that's with that blue hair and alerted

686
00:41:27.360 --> 00:41:31.280
he saw and he alerted everything down there that hey,

687
00:41:31.599 --> 00:41:35.400
there's some bad coming to your way, and I just

688
00:41:35.440 --> 00:41:40.159
followed it in and I had him trapped. Is the

689
00:41:40.159 --> 00:41:42.480
way I'm thinking about it now, after I've had all

690
00:41:42.480 --> 00:41:46.239
these years to think about it. Wild stuff, wild stuff.

691
00:41:46.280 --> 00:41:48.239
Why do you think people are at the point down

692
00:41:48.239 --> 00:41:51.760
there where they're coming forward with what's happening or they're

693
00:41:51.800 --> 00:41:53.880
more likely to share it with you now?

694
00:41:55.400 --> 00:41:59.039
Oh yeah, no, absolutely. When I bring it up, or

695
00:41:59.039 --> 00:42:01.519
sometimes you sitting around the campfire having a fish fire,

696
00:42:01.679 --> 00:42:04.519
somebody will say something and it will spark a conversation

697
00:42:04.719 --> 00:42:07.639
and you know, this happened to Sow, and this happened

698
00:42:07.679 --> 00:42:10.719
to my daddy, or this happened to me. They're way

699
00:42:10.800 --> 00:42:14.519
more open about it than what they were back in

700
00:42:14.559 --> 00:42:18.039
the seventies and the eighties. You just never heard anybody

701
00:42:18.119 --> 00:42:22.760
say anything at all. So I think people are warrime

702
00:42:23.079 --> 00:42:25.800
or you're just way more open to it. I didn't

703
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say anything to anybody for a long time. I told

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my wife at the time. She knew something scared me,

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but she didn't believe in bigfoot and stuff like that,

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and so I didn't tell anybody for years. I just

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kept it to myself because I didn't understand it. I

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didn't really know how to explain it.

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Absolutely, it sounds like you're still able to go fishing, though, correct.

710
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You're still able to go. Oh yeah, that's my hobby.

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And as a matter of fact, I go down in

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the swamps fish or swamp so lot, and I go

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right past where the d counter happened. I go by

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there very quickly. I just want to let you know,

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these boots will never get on that piece of ground

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ever again. But I do. And like I said, and

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there's been a few times when I'm down there fishing

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and I get this odd feeling that something's not right,

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and I move, and I move, And that's only happened

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a couple of times since this has happened, but it

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has happened. And I listened to my gut and I

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got out of there.

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Mike, You've had an amazing life when it comes to

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being out in the outdoors, the Bayous and the swamps,

725
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and what you've experienced is definitely intense. I just want

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to say thank you for coming on the show and

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for sharing with us your experiences. I want to make

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sure that you were able to share everything that you

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came to the show to share today.

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Thank you for having me. I enjoyed talking with you

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and maybe hopefully, like I said, I hope that somebody

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listens to this, and especially the gentleman that said he

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hit one. If they know anything about it, but reach

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out to you, I want to hear about it. So

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if you're from the Catalac area and you've had some

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weird areas, reach out to Jeremiah. We'd like to hear them. Absolutely.

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Mike, stay in touch if you ever have anything else happen.

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But hopefully it cools down for you. You're welcome to reach out.

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But thanks for chatting and you have a great rest of.

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Your day, sir, you too, Jeremiah, thank you so much.

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Thank you for listening to this episode of The Big

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world is bigger and stranger than we think, and that

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